Protesters are taking action against the prosecutes crackdown. Activists say the recent wave of arrests is striking fear into families who pose no criminal threat. Ice Officials Say that the arrests were in fact routine. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez joins me from atlanta. Gabe . Hi, there, amon. There were several arrests in atlanta alone. Ice Officials Say these were routine Law Enforcement operations, but immigration advocates say this is what they have feared. On the same week that protests ecorrupted in arizona as a mother convicted of using a false Social Security number was deported. Families of undocumented immigrants say they are now living in fear from california with donald trump being president , i see no hope for us. To north carolina. This week immigration and Custom Enforcement raids in at least six states. Ice says the raids were routine, no differentiate than those in the last administration. This is where the raid happened. This is where the rai she says theres a sense of panic among her clients. Theyre shocked and confused. Mass chaos. Not a lot of clarity. Trying to push back that the raids were indiscriminate, officials in los angeles say they arrested 164 nationals this week, 93 had criminal histories and 95 were male. New secretary of Homeland Security john kelly defended the raids. We have no alternative but to enforce the law. We will build a great, great wall and we will put an end to illegal immigration. But its his new executive
order that is leaving families terrified. Most we reached out to declined to speak on camera. Raymond told Us Immigration laws need to be changed. Neither of my parents are criminal records. So today im increasingly worried they will come after my family. Tonight he and millions of others are facing an uncertain future as the immigration battle rages. And Ice Spokes Penn tells us these raids were not at the discretion of the white house. Gabe gutierrez live for us in atlanta. Thank you for that. President trump and the first lady sitting down to dinner with shins skpab his wife tonight, part of a busy down in florida. President trump posting this
77 of refugees allowed hail from seven suspect countries. So dangerous. Here are the numbers. 882 refugees from those countries were admitted during one week. From syria, 359. From iraq, 252. None from yemen or libya. The number appeared higher than usual. Meanwhile today marked another milestone for Melania Trump who hosted mrs. Abe for a garden tour and luncheon. Mrs. Trumps first solo duties as the first lady. Mrs. Trump also tweeted a photo of herself with mrs. Abe and talked about the need to set values and be an example for future generations which had very much the first lady agendas as her tone. People of patriot and for religious freedom. Its extremely scary and were very much in fear that hes going to the change landscape of our country in a way that religious freedom is going to be impacted in such a negative way. Absolutely just taken aback by the fact that our donald trump is thinking that. Let me just adjust it. No matter how he does it its going to be impacting religious freedom in our country. The white house is saying its not a religious ban. They cite the number of countries that are not listed as part of this that are muslim countries. What does it mean for your lawsuit if they withdraw the initial Executive Order and modified it . They can say a lot of things that were not truthful. The way theyre implementing it
how theyre implementing italy and pursuing the ban in that way, you will see that it is a ban on religious freedom in so many ways. I can tell you people are changing theres no reason behavior in america because of the ban they put out there. He can add countries it to, he can try to adjust various language. When it comes down it to, it is unconstitutional to come down on a whole faith. Do you think this will go aufrlts to the Supreme Court or would you like to see this resolved in a different way. I want this resolved right way. I dont know that it needs to go to the Supreme Court. Theres a combination of whats happening with residences on the ground and what ewe see in the courtroom. It needs to go hand in hand. I want my 11yearold son to be able to go to school and be proud that hes of muslim faith. I want children who are brown,
whatever it is, theyre being lumped up into one package. With all the things that are happening, its impacting the spirit of who we are as a country. Its terrible. We want it resolved. If anything is done beforehand, great. The fact of the matter is its being complemented on the ground right now in an unamerican way. One of the suburbs when you speak to fellow muslims out there, what is their reaction to some of the legal setbacks that have been faced by if white house . Do they feel theyre a in the clear or are they still very concerned about what is unfolding and trying bring people over to the United States before this situation intenseifies . It brought a lot of strength
to many muslim communities. However, there is still anxiety, the anxiety hasnt gone away. People are extremely anxious. They say the words and the skplang how its being presented through press conferences, through various tweets of the president. What is happening on the ground is complete chaos, and that is what more anxious about. Absolutely, i think it gives us a tremendous. A strength to see the courts standing up with us. Thank you very much for joining us. Obviously a situation creating a lot of confusion for people. Protests across the country while supporters and opponents of Planned Parenthood protested. Some are asking to strip federal
funding. Nbcs Morgan Radford has been following the action in new york city where both sides showed up today. What do we want . Body autonomy. When do we want it . Now. Dueling rallies across the country. Thousands taking to the streets to voice their opinion on abortion and whether Planned Parenthood should receive federal money. This is a slaughter house. First there were the defunding rallies where hundreds of antiabortion demonstrations took place in pembroke family. Planned parenthood doesnt use federal funds or abortions, thats been not allowed. Approximate. Really the push to defund Planned Parenthood is where our tax dollars go towards something thats morally wrong. When people say youre a guy you dont know anything about our bodies and what we need. Men are husband and is fathers and men defend women and children. Just steps away her body, her choice. Its a personal choice and every adult human should be allowed to make that choice for themselves. Planned parenthood says defunding them would leave people without all kinds of health care as far as. They do things around gender and sexuality. In st. Paul, a thousand wearing pink took to the streets as similar scenes erupted across the country in a battle over abortion and the question of choice. Morgan radford, nbc news,
new york. Republican lawmakers are hearing from voters concern that the repeal of obamacare could have a serious impact on their lives. What theyre telling lawmakers. Plus how democrats plan to take on donald trump as they lay out their Long Term Plan for the future of the party. vo whats your dog foods first ingredient . That way . Yeah, a little further up. What year was that quarter . What year is that one . 98 thats the one. You got it nothing stops us from doing right by our customers. Ally. Do it right. Lets get out of that water. The japanese are concerned about their own defense, talking about rearming and so on. Its very, very concerning. Weve asked the chinese in the past to do something about their neighbor, theyve been supporting north korea. They wont put their foot on these guys because the chinese dont want 2 million north koreaens streaming across the revere as refugees if the screws are put to north korea. Theyre laying off and north korea more or less does what it wants. We know from the white house Turnover Course of the last three weeks have been putting a focus on iran when iran tested its Ballistic Missile. We know the white house is putting iran on notice following a series of sanctions. Its been silent and they seem to be just as em bold boldened
in this test. 40 of their gdp goes to support the army in north korea. Nonof it goes to the people. Its extremely difficult to control north korea. A little bit of a double standard that theyre not focused on iran as much as north korea. I think youre absolutely right. But i think the United States is going to continue not doing anything about north korea and is going focus much more attention on iran because at the end of the day irans got an actual gdp which can be influenced by sanctions and there is interest in the region with doing something with iran to control their expansions. Weve been working against them in yemen. Against north korea, nothing that anybody has done for decades has been able to help. Theres nothing to indicate
that the north korean leadership is going to change. China will be the lynch pin. Well see what happens after this initial communication. Colonel, always regret to have your perspective. Well have more on that Breaking News Story of north korea test ago Ballistic Missile. Republican lawmakers hosting town Hall Meetings where theyre being greeted anger and protests. Constituents are demanding answers on health care reform, many afraid theyre going to be dropped from their Insurance Coverage if the Affordable Care act is repealed. Our reporter attended a Town Hall Meeting today. Weve seen the images throughout the course of the week, some of them getting more contentious, very heated. It was intense and at times, confrontational. For more than two and a half
hours residents stood up and spokes some of them anger and a lot of them fearful about what can happen if aca is repealed. Reporter at town halls this week, hostile crowds, Angry Righteous residents. When is aca was passed in 2009, my party had virtually no input. The crowd of several hundred turned hostile. Dont you get the message . [ cheers ] one confronted the groms. Were in danger. A mother worried her daughter will be dropped from her snurnz if aca is repealed. Im selfemployed so i have the perfect storm. Shame. Similar scenes at town halls across the country this week. Im fighting congress for my life. . Salt lake city, town hall hits capacity in saikt constituents made emotional plaza for tom mccolin to being to consider repealing aca. My wife has two open heart surgeries on my fixed income, we will not be able to afford the medication that she now takes, and she will die. Republican lawmakers say they will continue to hold town halls determined to hear from their constituents. Were going to make sure we continue to create environments for people to voice their opinions, voice their opposition. The only thing that might swell some of the angry a look at what republicans have in store to replace the aca. Reporter there were only a handful of people here today who supported aca being repealed and we spoke with a couple of those people, asked them if they had their minds changed by what they heard and we were told no, they did not. With us from washington, democratic congressman, i want to start with those town hall protests were seeing. You saw on your screen getting very heated. Whats your reaction what you look at that. Weve seen the exact mirror image with democratic town halls. Everyone ive been part of is tons of people pouring in, standing room only, trying to figure out how to make a difference. How they can stand up to the worst parts of what they expect from this president. How do you see democrats using this to their advantage . In the short run were
sticking with the idea that to fight back is to wichblt we want to agree with President Trump when hes right. We believe in government that works and is effective, but were not going to compromise your values or what our constituents need. We dont want to go along with President Trump just to avoid this image of being obstructionists. In the long run, weve got to win some elections. Were going to try to be as articulate as we can. Do they stand back and see how republicans handle this works giving them enough rope for them to do what they want to do with them in terms of pressure . We look and say trump is forcing his own party to be the party of no. The intelligence chiefs pushing back on flynns conversations with the russians about the sanctions or even
trumps Supreme Court nominees talking about how disheartening and demeaning it was for troufrp talk about socalled judges. The republicans are pushing back on him almost as hard as we are. So you brought up jason your republican colleague in the house. Hes been saying people who interrupted him at his town hall event were, quote, paid agitators. Have you seen any evidence that someone is funding this . Is it being organized by somebody . Would you describe this as a Grassroots Movement . Ayman, theres as grassroots as the gets. Theres no way democrats would think to do that. I have never seen as much as this. Im old enough to have seen vietnam. This energy is across the ages, across the races. And people are upset about taking away the Affordable Care act or this notion were hearing about ice raids picking up immigrants who have done nothing
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in south korea and because of that if a conservative does win, it will be just more difficult for kim jongun the north korean leader. China doesnt want south korea to deploy a Missile Defense system. And so if north korea tests a Ballistic Missile, that gives really an sbets to the South Koreaen government to go forward with deployment of this terminal High AltitudeDefense System. Youve laid out a lot of threads that one can pull out right now. One of the first points you highlighted was a test of wills. We saw the Administration Come out with a notice of putting iran on notice when iran carried out its own missile test. What might the u. S. Administration now consider doing in the wake of what north korea has just done . The administration can put additional sanctions on north korea because were not sanctioned out. The State Department could put North Korea Backen its list of Terrorism Responsing states. The United States could start sanctioning chinese banks that have been involved in north korean commerce, especially remitted to its Nuclear Weapons and Ballistic Missile programs. Theres a lot of things the Trump Administration could do. In terms of north koreas capabilities we know donald trump said north korea would not have a Nuclear Weapon to hit the United States. But what do we know factual about north koreas complaints both with Nuclear Weapon missiles and war heads. They have the missiles that can hit the lower 48. We do not think that north korea can make a Nuclear Weapon to its long range lanchers but they
will be able to do that somewhere within three to five years. They already made a war head with with medium range. North korea is being close to be able to hold the u. S. To ransom. A lot of people described north korea as perhaps the biggest threat to the United States in terms of its capabilities that you just outline. Talk to us about kim jonguns temperament. Turnover decades, north korea has tried to develop its long range missiles and Nuclear Weapons. This is part of kim family daechlt kim jongun came to power when he was about 28 or 29 years old. Hes been in power now since 2011, december. But he has yet to fully consolidate krochlt hes really kauktd political struggle with the military. So i think that hes allowed a lot of tests last year of Ballistic Missiles largely because he needs to placate the Senior Officers as he takes away some of their power and prestige. So there is a very interesting interaction between the kim family and the flag officers. Some criticism that a lot of this when it comes to administrations focus has been wrongly placed on countries like iran in terms of what they are doing. The iranians say they are doing this for selfdefense. Help us understand the rational. Do they want to just draw the
u. S. Into some kind of negotiations for economic relief. North korea had a Nuclear WeaponsProgram Since at least the end of the 1960s. The soef yes, it is are no longer there, the chinese probably, would it not defend them if they launched an attack on south korea. So of course they do want to deter it. They want the world to pay them money, but i think that essentially this is an important element of the kim family legitimacy. If he can show the north Korean People that hes strong then that bolsterers his rule. Obviously the big question is going to be about what does china do going forward. And you cannot in a way remove chinas relationship with the United States under the trump
presidency from what it could do with north korea. A lot of people have been looking over the past couple of weeks saying the Trump Administration has gotten off on the wrong foot with the chinese leadership, particularly with articulating a consideration of the One China Policy and now trying to reconcile that. What can the Trump Administration do to win favor with china and what influence does china have over north korea. China has significant influence over north korea, but they often dont want to exercise it. Although day to day relations can sour as they have over the last three or four years, the chinese still have the power to force the north koreans to do what they want when the chinese believe its in their interest. China Turnover Course of decades has not really helped the United States and the International Community with regard to north korea. They have been actually helping the north koreans arm themselves. So i think that sort of coercive
punishments on chinese banks theres very little i think the u. S. Can do to get the chinese into a cooperative relation. It would be nice if china woo help us but we know that they havent really helped us over a long period of time. And theyve given a lot of support both diplomatic material, technology to them. Donald trump is it supposed to be having a Working Dinner with the japanese Prime Minister. Something tells me this Ballistic Missile test from north korea is going to be front and center of that working differential gordon chang, always great to have your perspectives of this Breaking News Story. Well have a lot more about north korea. The reports if youre just joining us is that north korea has fired a Ballistic Missile into its eastern sea. That is being reported by the
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Foreign Policy our diplomat are very complicated. People need to be able to know they have the fuel backing of the United States behind them. At this particular time our diplomats cant say that. Any conversation they have right now will have huge impacts even just tonight. Brandon, i know in the administrations first Foreign Policy test, if you will, had to do with iran launching its Ballistic Missile. We saw a tough response come out of the white house saying iran has been put on notice following the announcement of new sanctions. What do you think the administration is going to do here with north korea that has not been so responsive to similar sanctions in the past. Were looking at not only future of north korea, but since this president has a relationship with russia, we know russia has a relationship with north korea. Its about time that both russia and our allies both taiwan and japan and south korea, we need a resolution of how to counter
this. The issue now is looking at china as a Trade Partner is china going to stay in or stay out. We know they dont want to deal with this issue because of the back draft of immigrants coming to china. Our bilateral talks with what china is going to do. Its about time we use russia. Since wave friend in russia, lets use him. Let me pick up on that point. Its an interesting point. The president is taking a lot of heat for some of the prayise fo Vladimir Putin. You brought that up in this particular case that russia has a role to play with north korea. Could this start to pay dividends for that relationship
with Vladimir Putin . Now were going to see if Vladimir Putin truly for the u. S. Or is he playing politics. Lets look at this. When we look at iran and north korea, neither one of those nations has money. Thats one of the issues here. We know russia is the money financing many of those projects. Now well see if russia is truly for the u. S. Or play politics. This should be an eye opener for the administration. At that point in time cross over to seoul, south korea. Our Foreign Correspondent is joining us live there on the phone. I know youve been there a couple days already doing some reporting on another story. Obviously this is going to be play very significantly to both the south korean leadership and to south koreans at large. What is the initial reaction to this news that is breaking that north korea has tested a Ballistic Missile. In the early hours here in san diego, a copy of 9 00. The missile was fired at around 7 55 sunday morning. South koreans are just waking up to the news. Their Joint Chiefs Of Staff made the announcement that the missile has been detected and the National Security council is set to meet this morning here in south korea. The details are sketchy right now. It fired around 500 kilometers. We dont know what kind of missile was fired, but the fear will be, of course, that this is a test of a more sophisticated missile that north korea has been able to test in the past, and that combined with the Nuclear Tests that pyongyang has conducted in recent history will be what really worries the south koreans the most. They have been looking towards a u. S. Missile Defense System that
has promised for south korea later in the year, and that they hope will bring some protection. But theres always a sense of trepidation about what the north might do. And this is going to add to that as well as the south koreans will believe that the timing of this is not insignificant, that this is a message to President Trump and a message to President Trump at a moment when hes conduct Ago Business Meeting with the Prime Minister of japan. Let me ask you really quickly about some of the political turmoil thats already engulfing south korea, the countrys president Em Broiled In Scandal and controversy, that country in itself is facing potential president ial campaigns from various candidates who have different perspectives on the north korean issue. Im familiar with curious to get your thoughts on how this missile test may play out in south koreas politics. It could have an affect because that election is completely up in the air. Its not really clear who will likely take over in south korea. One of the candidates who is favored to take over from park when she goes could be someone who is more to the left in politics. And that might mean that south koreas government edges more towards china. The asian area, region is such a jigsaw of politics. Different relations between Different Countries being so important. South korea could change things. As you know when it comes to north korea, china is absolutely crucial. The chinese relationship with north korea is the key to everything. Ultimately the chinese want to support the north korean regime because for them its important that they dont want to see a
u. S. Backed north korea. At the same time they dont want the threat from north korea to be threat from north korea to be too great. I know there will be a developing story throughout the course of the next several hours. I want to bring in the former ambassador to on south korea. Probably nobody knows the dynamics of the politics. Ambassador, it is great to have you with us for your perspective. Some are saying theres no doubt the timing of this Missile Launch could not be lost on the fact that you have the japanese Prime Minister visiting the u. S. What is the message being sent from the north koreans, to the japanese leadership and President Trump. Well, first of all, i dont know the possibility that the timing for the japanese Prime Ministers golf game in
maralago. I would also emphasize that in the last couple years, north korea has had a very steady Missile Test Program as well as a nuclear test program. I dont rule out the possibility it is another test. One thing they have not done lately is to engage in provocations. And i think the reason for that is that theyre looking at the internal situation in south korea. Generally when there are Missile Tests by the north koreans, the south koreans have a, tend on lean rightward. The fact theyre doing this could be to kind of send a message to the japanese. I believe it is more likely they are proceeding on a military testing program. Theyre not testing us. Theyre testing their equipment. The big question is what kind of missile is this . Theyve had 500mile ballistic
missiles before. But could this be an icbm . Could this be a Solid Fuel Rocket . So we have to wait and find out. They have been going dead ahead on their missile testing. And sooner or later, this new administration will indeed be tested by this problem. And ambassador hill, it was a matter of time before the Trump Administration faced this, as you describe, regular testing of missiles. Fu if you were sitting in the Situation Room telling president ially options, what would you be telling him . As people like to say, there are no good options. Obviously, well the want to be in touch with the the join chiefs of staff regarding the u. S. Forces, the posture of u. S. Forces. There might be an effort to be in touch with the south korean
leadership but none of these are terribly robust. And ambassador hill, obviously the relationship with china is paramount to any development of sanctions with the United States at the United Nations and what have you. The relationship with china, some say, has not gotten off to a good start between President Trump and president jing. I want to get your thoughts. What are they inclined to do . Well, first of all, they are compelled to implement u. N. Sanctions. China has been in a better place than nasty so i think that will go forward. Im not sure sanctions will deal with this problem. I think there needs to be a much more robust response from the chinese in terms of cutting off all kinds of cross border trade. You mentioned the Trump Administration got off to a very rocky start with the chinese. President xi jinping and President Trump had a very positive phone call in which President Trump dropped the challenge to the One China Policy. And i think that was helpful. And i think is very favorably regarded in china. So well have to see in the coming days. But china the cant solve this problem alone. We cant expect to outsource this problem to china. There will not be a solution unless china is on board. So on it suppose the having a continuing close conversation with the chinese. With respect to the south koreans, they are going through a very tough political time oufrl Defense Secretary was there about a week ago. I was that was very important. But i think it is a time to hold our allies very closely. President trump will have plenty of opportunity to talk to the japanese Prime Minister about this but i think it is very important to reach out to the south koreans, and certainly to remind everyone that we have this very hightech and we believe one of our the best antimissile systems on the way to south korea. And we know that throughout the president ial campaign. President trump was somewhat critical of japan and south korea saying they were taking too much of the alliance and at some of the point suggested japan should start carrying more of its own weight. Perhaps even having Nuclear Weapons to shield itself from the threat of a north Korean Nuclear warhead or Ballistic Missile. Do you think that perspective in the white house changes by the day as they see more of these times of north korean tests . We all know that President Trump has a tendency to double down on things he said on the campaign. But i think in this case, he has not doubled down on the idea
that these allies that are not pulling away. Frankly they are pulling away. If you look at south korean forces, they are very, very had robust. If you look at japanese forces, in the context of their constitution which limits Military Sfoeng 1 of the gdp. This stems from the macarthur era. I think they have very strong forces and a lot of interopera built with u. S. Had forces. I dont think well hear about that much long onner anymore from the president. Nor would i suggest him to suggest that other countries need get Nuclear Weapons. Christopher hill, former ambassador, we ask you to stay with us. We have a reporter in south korea. We have a quick break that we want to take. We want to recap what has developed over the course of the last 45 minutes or so. The south Korean News Agency has reported that north korea has carried out a Ballistic Missile
test into its eastern sea. Obviously this is a situation developing by the minute. We are trying to get reaction from the white house in terms of this latest development. Well have a lot more for you in the next hour. Stay with us. Well be right back. Per roll more Doing Chores For Dad per roll more earning something you love per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50 longer than the leading ordinary brand. So you get more life per roll. Bounty, the quicker picker upper
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