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We are going to fight back. Good day, i am chris mathew, for Andrea Mitchell, my friends. Republican leaders are promising the whole war meetings after taking their first steps yesterday towards party unity. Speaker ryan have yet to endorse donald trump but support for trump is growing on capitol hill. Thats up from eight people who would said a few weeks ago. Joining me now is one of Donald Trumps top surrogates doctor ben carson. Doctor carson, thank you for joining us. Let me ask you about your role now because you were running for president and you are a surgeon. You are trying to bring in rivals, so far, you got you and Chris Christie and the governor of new jersey and rick perry, the former governor of texas, who are you working to bring in now to the trump camp . First of all, let me say everybody is always trying to give me a role. I dont want any official role. What i want to do is try to do the things that can facilitate our country. Of course, that means reaching out to all kinds of people and helping them to recognize we are not each others enemies. Whether you are a republican or a democrat if you are an american, you should be seeing job growth and security and providing people to crime clime the ladder to be successful in the country. We need to focus on things that make America Great instead of all of these warfare at this time would be better off. I have talked to him about that. Hes very empathetic about it. In fact, a lot of people on the conservative side have a horrible job of expressing it in a way that connects with people. Thats something thats going to be worked on, i guarantee you for this election cycle and beyond that election cycle. Have you ever tried to make donald trump more empathetic. It is hard for them to pull themselves up and even in a free society, does he get it . What i would suggest is some of these many reporters try to dig a dirt on trump. Why dont they find people who have work with them or work for him for long period of time. You will get a very different story. I bet they wont want to tell that story. The audio recording with somebody with a voice similar to donald trump sort of flaking for him expressing our business politics promoting him which was a voice that sounded like trumps own voice. Do you think thats an unfair story . Just a distraction. You know at some point and i know it is going to be tough, believe me. At some point we got to start concentrating on whats important. The issues thats facing our country right now is monumental. Will anybody ever stop and think about that . What do you think would be let me try to find the Common Ground . What would the president , democratic or republican start to unite this country. Mr. Trump talked about John F Kennedy in new york and so much of our infrastructure. Everything seems to be old. The subway systems over 100 years old. Is that something he will leave with building . I think democrats will go along with it. They like the union job if nothing else. It is obviously important. There are ways to do it. For instance, you look at over 2. 1 trillion over seas because of our ridiculous Corporate Tax rate. We let that money come back in for six months period and use part of that for one of the projects that you are talking about and also create jobs for people who are unemployed or on welfare. These are the kind of things that would cost taxpayers one penny. It sounds like a good idea. Democrats alone with the tax holaday. You are laughing but you know it is a problem. It is a problem and i think if we get in a room and we can talk together about america, not about democrats and republicans but about america and how do we keep it strong, how do we fix it, what can we do about education here . We have over 20 of people dropping out of high school. What can we do about having 5 of the population and 25 of inmates. These are things that affect us. If we can Start Talking about that, i think we can come to a conclusion thats beneficial for everybody. Tell us if you can, you were the advance person in advancing of trumps meeting with us, speaker ryan. How did that go . How would you describe that meeting that you had in the phone and the meeting they had yesterday where it is headed. Where is that is relationship going . I talked to speaker ryan at 9 30 in the evening, he still had more meetings. This man is a real patriot. He gets up early and works late. Hes a perfect example of a citizen servant leader. Hes very concerned of america. His heart i believe is in the right place. And, you know, i just wanted to talk to him about some of the missed interpretations of donald trump before the meeting. Donald trump is not a politician, does not use political speak, hes not polished and the same problem that i had. The people understand you but the media certainly does not. So you know i reinterpreted some of the things that he had said. When he comes out and said hes not big on entitlement reforms, you have to listen to all that hes saying. What hes saying is thats not the first thing that you want to deal with when you have an economy thats totally an elect. When people have opportunities, at that point, you can talk about entitlement reform. Thats the kind of thing to do. There are a number of issues thats simply are not fully explained and you get the wrong impression. I understand that. Hillary clinton, the democratics front runner, shes talking about donald trump not releasing his tax returns. She jumped on that yesterday. Is that a fair issue as you see it . Well, i would find it much more fair if she releases the transcript on her speech on wall street. It would seem less critical at that point. Donald trump had said hes going to release those. His lawyers advised him not to do that. If somebody has a better idea than the lawyer, i think they should put it out there. You know Bernie Sanders, the challenger to Hillary Clinton, he also has a problem getting out h is tax returns. Do you think somebody should know their tax returns as a principle . Ser certainly. I had to put one as well and it had a lot of detailed Financial Information much more so. I think you can really determine a great deal from that. Thats already available. Lets analyze that and after analyzing that and say what else we need to know of the forthcoming of the tax returns. What are you skeptical and intrigue by Hillary Clinton where she got paid 100,000 to speak. What do you think is interesting to voter . I dont know. I did politic speakiublic speak. I must admit it is fun. I would be interesting in knowing. Maybe i could include some of those things in my speeches and get 100, thousa 100,000. Seriously, hillary will always say i know that guy in the room or the woman in the room and it will be some what friendly. What do you think shes giving away in those lunches and meetings . I suspect a relationship is indicated in those speeches. Shes not interested of the people knowing about that relationship because that does not work so well when in the next breath you are bashing wall street saying these are the people who are greedy and ene enemi enemies. I am sure she wants to achieve consistency and the best way to do that is to keep people ignorant. Thank you doctor ben carson, it is great to have you here. It is a pleasure, chris. Coming up, donald trump firing back. Right here on Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. What is that . Its you its me . Alright emma, i know its not your favorite but its time for your medicine, okay . You ready . One, two, three. Both ] emma, emma bobemma bananafanafofemma feefifofemma emma very good sweety, how dyou feel . Good. Yeah . 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Trump pretending to be a Public Relations employee, listen up. Whats your name again . John miller. Whats your position . Who did not know that was donald trump . 1991, People Magazine reported, they confirmed the voice on the recording was donald trump. He denied that this morning on today. You acknowledged it was you but it was a joke. I dont think it was me. I dont know what they are talking about. The post said this is something you did rather rout e routinely that you would call reporters saying that you were john miller or john barron but it was you on the phone no, that was not me on the phone. It does not sound like me on the phone, i will tell you that and it was not me on the phone. It does sound like him unfortunately. Joining me from the daily fix, washington senior. Donald trump is giving reports of new reasons. Mark fisher, i have read your stuff for years, how did you get this somehow cougugar employee . We have been doing these reports where trump would call reporters and editors had him as john barron or john miller and giving them stories. Mo some of them thought it was playful but it was a common place that it would be on citys desk when these calls come in. And of course, we like to listen to that. And it was just sort of a running joke. As you hear, he makes no real effort to disguise his voice. Let me ask you about this, there is no criminality, did you check your legal voice . Is there any legal issue here that can be used against him . Imitating yourself or somebody else. It does not sound like a crime to me. Thats not a scoot. I once saw him on letterman, some Football Player were thwing a football into a theater to some other building and they had to get somebody. It was him. He was available for publicity. This is not a shock. Well, i am just kidding. You are just kidding. Good work on that, mark. Well weigh the importance of this now. Thank you for joining us, lets go right now to susan we are talking about this beforehand. I think the cover is worse than the crime. No, he did deny it. He got pressed on it. He said it was not me on the recording. Once you determine voice expert says it was him and people come forward said he did it all the time. Of course, he denied it. When does it become to a moral sense as he stick to his position until nightfall tonight. I dont think we need a forensic analysis to say it was him. I dont want to bring the conversation down too much. I think this is a Good Opportunity for us is the media to reevaluate how we cover this and call him out when he lied. He frequently distort the truth and say things that are out right false. This is an example and he should be held accountable and hes lying. It is one of the problems. He makes people say i know hes not telling the truth but i am going to live with it. Here is one other thing. If you are the developer and you call reporters reporting on your development here and say you are somebody else, big deal. If you are the president of the United States well, i know, something that seems playful if your developer seems more serious. This is about the time bill clinton was on the phone with the whole thing with jennifer flowers and the tapes got out because jennifer flowers put it out. The president said at the time, that was edited. But, it was him. He had to apologize to governor cromwell at the time of his mafia image or whatever. There is awfully a lot of over lap between the personality types between bill clinton and donald trump. Probably a lot more than either man would like to admit. The other day when trump had to deflect his criticism and he said it was just a proposal. I mean that was a remarkably. Lets talk about tax returns. We just demand them. It has always worked before but now not with Bernie Sanders who has no done it yet. He said his wife is still working on them. Okay, she does the tax. I understand how this works at families oftentimes. She handles all the paper work. Thats past returns. It is explicable. These are returns that have been filed. I dont understand. Why dont they both do it. For trump, i dont know whether or not well see them or we wont. Probably not giving horrible headlines hes dropped. I know trump is a master at misdirection. Hey, look over here. Donald trump is giving reports on his new reasons today of why he would not release his tax returns. Release his returns which were unaudited. You released the returns to the state officials even though you were under audit. If you were able to release your tax returns to get a casino license it did not make a difference to me and now it does. What is your tax rate . It is none of your business, you will see it when i release it. There is a Chris Christies relapse. Did you hear that phrase none of your business. I think probably more than we realize. This is one of the ways which unorthodox candidates break the mole. Hillary clinton is something well be talking now until election day. Everybody has their own personal speculations of what hes hiding. I understand politics, if it better than it looks, theyll show you. If it looks better than it is, they wont. It is very simple. If this tax returns making it. I dont think he paid a little extra. I think this could be an advantage for trump. Hes smart enough to make all this money. He boasted about that. Look, i will pay as little. I will pay right through november though. Better that than what hes heighten . Mr. Trump release your taxes. Can you stop the music with that . If shes persistent about it. The problem with covering this guy is hes so good in distracking. Breaking the mole, doing the stuff that everybody else every dares to do. Susan paige, reporter from u. S. A today and Jeremy Peters who got himself a column now. Coming up, today the white house is issuing a new directive for the nations public schools. Thats what they call it down there. He joins me next on Andrea Mitchell reports only on msnbc. The legal rights of transgender in North Carolina escalates. Today the administration will send out a letter in the School District saying they need to allow transgender students use whatever bathrooms match their identity. The administration is threaten to cut federal funding that dont comply. This response is in the latest o f the backlash. North carolinas governor signed the restriction rule. Everything from large corporations to big names refused to do business with North Carolina. Joining me now director of the new film being charlie is one of the leading voices in North Carolina. Thank you, tell me about, you are very busy and now talk about this. How did you get into this so strongly . Well, as you know, you just mentioned that, you know, michelle and i were the ones responsible for filing the federal lawsuit to dismantle proposition 8 which paved the way for Marriage Equality. One of my partners, my best friend is chad griffin, the president of the u. S. Human rights. We are good friends and worked together for years. It is the last piece on the civil rights puzzle thats being put into place. The Lbgt Community is the only community thats not looked at l equally under the law. Thats starting to change and with Marriage Equality being below the land that is part of the change but these backlashes that we see in different parts of the country is very similar to what happened in brown verses the board of education in 54 even though we created equal rights for people to go to school, there were push backs and fights. It is still going to be those kinds of fights. Anyway, let me ask you about the economics of this. You know the film business, i was thinking of all the great films coming out from North Carolina over the years. I think that hunger games movie were made down there. This is going to bite if this is carried out. Your proposal for a boycott. Yes, i mean not only hollywood but you got papal and many, many big corporations. This is going to cost North Carolina millions and millions of dollars and many, many thousands of jobs. It is going to put a real dent in their economy. I think this governor has, you know, hes fallen on the wrong side of this. I think you are right. Hes going to get hurt and hes going to get hurt bad. Unfortunately, hes on the wrong side of it in terms of the law and everything else. You know, rob, you dont know this but i went to grad school down there in chapel hill it is a little bit of iowa there, it is liberal and cosmolpolitan. A lot of people from all the country come there. It is a futuristic state in some way. This governor got caught in the political fire. If you look around the country, this directive that the president put forward today, it is already starting to be utilized in many states around the country. So you know this boat is sailed and i think you will see some people that are going to hold on for deer life but ultimately hes caught in a political fire storm thats going to hurt him badly. Unfortunately, it is going to hurt that state and it is a great state like you said. I know you are a great civil rights advocate, there is something really silly of what he did. If you tell a person who identifies as female, not to go to the ladys room but to go to the mens room. It could be chaos and confusion and create all this stirring or whatever. You want people to go to where ever they feel comfortable. If they go to other way, it would be a ludicrous law. I dont get the point of this thing no, there is no point. The fact the matter is people have been doing these for years without these laws and nobody has been aware of it. There is not been those kinds of predatory things that you say thats going to come out of it. It is like Voting Rights and saying well, we are starting and we are getting people from the polls. Thank you, rob. It is a way of having people hang onto old believes. That was what i was thinking this morning. It is just like this crazy thing of voter id with no corruption. They just do it to keep minorities and old people from voting and students. You are always on the great side there, rob. Thank you, best to michelle and thank you for getting into the arena. Coming up, clinton gears up with the election. Bernie sanders is not going quietly. Well talk to clintons supporter. You are watching Andrea Mitchell reports, only on msnbc. Why do so many busin esses rely on the Us Postal Service . Because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone se in the country. Here, there, everywhere. 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It is tough, i dont agree he should go out there and separate families. Any child in this country should get his or her day in court with an effective way to present that case. It is unfortunate of what we find is congress unwilling to act and you deal with situations like this. I hope the white house will understand this is not the time to be separating kids from their parents. It was a great bill and comprehensive and citizen. Anyway, let me ask you about this particular challenges of Central America and not mexico. What are the problems of sending people back to part of that latin america . Reporter we spent a lot of time in that score that we call Central America. We broke a lot of china and even in the 50s when we helped throw the president in guatemala. A lot of unrest and uncivil convicts that occur and much of whats visiting in Central America countries is many folks who brought baa with them in Central American Central America of some of the things they brought in the u. S. Our neighbors need us and we were there before and he helped them break a lot of china. To get it right, it helps Central America families but it helps us. Lets talk about a couple of these points in history. You talked about knocking off our beds, the cia did that and knocking off a yen day in chile. Reporter it is painful, chris, but it is a fact. I would say as a son of immigrants, i know no more patriotic and proud as my parents who made this their home for quite some time and always defend it. I will defend it. I am so proud of my country. We have done some things we have not been proud of. The greatest thing of this country is we try to correct whats wrong. What we will do regard to Central America are correcting some of these wrongs. We have to help these countries so they can come back and thrive. If we do that t well be great neighbors and people will love us in hemisphere and well be doing the right thing. I look forward to it. At the end of the day, i can say my country has always try to redeem themselves when it is done. This is the first time that the bobby kennedy, we are having a real fight in california, do you think Bernie Sanders should withdraw before that or can you understand why hes sticking it out. Reporter Bernie Sanders deserves to do what he wants to do. He inspired a lot of voters and he had made the candidates really healthy and conservative. If he decides to go all the way to the convention, we should not change his mind. I hope hes doing what he thinks it is best for the country, not for himself or h is politics. At the end of the day, he will decide from my perspective more is better. I like democracy. I want to see peoples enthusiastic about going out to vote. At the end of the day, i feel very confident that the next president of United States is Hillary Clinton. Do you see a clintons ticket . You know, jimmy kimmel beat everybody to the bunch today. He said it will be the canndidae on the ticket without a president ial candidate. Well have to see. I know she will make a great choice and at the same time, i am hoping she will have a congress in the house of the senate that wants to work with the next president and not deceive and destruct the next president. Thats my focus and i have confidence that she will make the great choice. Thank you for coming on, xavier cebrerra. Coming up, he want to teach trump a lesson. I want to issue myself to him as a mainstream muslims and comfortable with western families. Our cosmetics line was a hit. The orders were rushing in. I could feel our deadlines racing towards us. We didnt need a loan. We needed shortterm funding fast. Building 18 homes in 4 ½ months . That was a leap. But i knew i could rel on american exess to help meuy those building materials. Amex helped me buy the inventory i needed. Our amex helped us fill the orders. Just like that. Another step on the journey. 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Thats sadiq khan. The u. S. Has stronger words for donald trump, lets take a listen. It is very stupid and i think the example of all the people, muslims, i am one of them, you know . We are in the life, we are in our mission and mr. Trump is so stupid, my god, my god. Well, there is the tale from two cities. Joining me now is the author of the new book against the backdrop of the threat of armageodon. What do you make of that. Well, it worries people who knew about national security. It worries leaders around the world because what theyre seeing is evidence that we have a president ial candidate who really does not know anything about national security. Here is james baker. One tough poll titician as you point out. The u. S. Need to reassure allies with this. I think we have to reassure not just the south but other allies and the arabian gulf. Let them know we still got their backs. This deal with iran is nuclear only and does not have anything to do with anything else. Too bad it does not. We are going to be there and we are still going to oppose the participation and terror that iran is a state sponsored terrorism and has been and lived with for sometimes. Thats the voice of reason. There is been, we all buzzer on what may happen between now and november. If we have a terrorist situation here, look at our allies, paris for instance resonated into this country, who would have thought that. It looked like us, like we are being hit. Does that sort of shape the electoral Decision Making . If it is close to the election, i fear it could. If it is far enough back, perhaps it is not. We dont know and we know what Hillary Clinton will say because shes gone through terrorist events as secretary. Is she going through like drills. Yes, she has. I did go with her. President obama asked me to run the drill with her and other cabinet members. They know what to do. They drill the exercise. Trump probably has no idea what to do or say if there is a major terrorist event. You are right. It is possible if a major event occurs especially in the United States and it could. Well, you dont know. It will make this case crudely. We need this ban that would make this case crudely. So we do have to worry about people reacting badly in the wake of an event and this happens in spain where there is a terrorist event just before an election and it did happen in the election. I grew up and i went to the Catholic School in the early 50s. We had a nuclear war drill all the time. They did i remember that. Whats your book talking about and the scenario of nuclear war tcampaign. Suddenly the white house gets intelligence where there is a terrorist plot during the Election Campaign of 2016, that terrorist plot might have access to nuclear weapon. Do you tell the public and when do you reveal that and when do you do about that so you dont panic people. When you are not sure where it is going or is i going . I try to give all the issues that i dealt with in dealing with terrorist events over ten years. Whatever happens i always wonder and since i have you here, why dont countries like iran . There is a desperate bunch of people over there that never made any money after the soviet union crashed. James baker, when i was his secretary assistant when the soviet union failed, he had a program to pathos soviet nuclear engineers. Theyre not still getting paid. No, those guys are retired. The russians who are doing a good job of keeping an eye on the russian engineers. Well, thats been the fear that somebody out there. You know the interesting thing is not everybody will go work for isis. We know hackers have been offered. We know hackers have been offered millions of dollars to be Cyber Warrior for isis. They say no, we want to attack isis. You know your stuff, right . You are tom clemson, right . Richard clark, former advisor of president george bush. You got to get this paper back book. Much more ahead on Andrea Mitchell reports, well be right back. Th e allnew audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. Everything your family touches sticks with them. Make sure the germs they bring home dont stick around. Use clorox disincting products. Because no one kills germs better than clorox. Thope to see you again soon. Whoa, whoa, i got this. Just gotta get the check. Almost there. I cant reach it. If you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. At . Its what you do. I got this. Thanks, dennis if you want to save fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance, you switch to geico. Growwwlph. Its what you do. Oh that is good crispy duck. Technology moves faster than ever. The allnew audi a4, with apple carplay integration. Well, that does it for this edition of Andrea Mitchell reports, by the way, the trumps show goes on tonight at 7 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. 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The question today is who he is voice is it . A fascinating report from the Washington Post. Donald trump get on the phone with reporters posing as publicist from 1991 in which a man claiming to be john miller representing trump spoke from reporters from the magazine. Take a listen. What is your name again . John miller. The post reports in 1990s and trump testified that he did on occasion using john miller and based on the recording of the 1991 calls, he likes to brag about the women suing him including madonna. The people that you write about, they just call. The voice in the recording, he brags about trump dating multiple womens. He got three other girlfriends. Celebrity businessman on the rise according to the Washington Post talking to reporters while posing as somebody else playing stories about himself. It was a tactic that donald trump played for

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