0 we have to remember our embassies are not fortresses but our face to these countries and need to be opened for business. taking precaution but not overdoing security where we then can't engage directly with the people and the governments in these countries. it's a very hard balance to have. >> so everybody understand, joel, because security is provided by the country in and of itself. >> yes. it is. the tharntings are made for shutting down an embassy and falling on the security, that will be done in a partnership at the local level between the u.s. regional security office and the local government offices as well. there likely will be some american marines there all the time stationed at the embassy as well. >> i want to switch taunopics a the issue of edward snowden. >> russia has stabbed us in the back and each day that snowden is allowed to roam free is another twist of the knife. as long as prime minister putin acts like a bully, we have only one choice, to stand up to him and show him that bullies pay a price. >> joel, this is really confusing to a lot of people. we got information from glenn greenwald did a program that the nsa has been using. it's a complete conflict, a complete going back on his word and now we see snowden roaming free and is considered a russian citizen the next 12 months. >> it is a frustrating situation and the administration has put in a significant amount of energy in engaging russia. is there a crisis in syria and russia has been playing gobel l in preventing another nuclear iran. we have to make sure we don't lose our focus on these issues, but this is making it very difficult. it is as buck mckeown and the house has said it shows that it's a difficult relationship but, at the same time, it's one we have to navigate through. >> this adds a completely new layer to that. former state department officer, joel rubin, thank you. have a good weekend. >> thank you. it is the first friday of the month. that means it's time to talk about the jobs numbers. we know that topic was a high point on the president's agenda this week. >> what is the message you're bringing to the hill today? >> jobs. middle class. growth. >> are some republicans treating you like -- >> good to see you. >> what have they done to shut down -- what negotiate to republicans? >> let's break down where we stand. the numbers that came out this morning at 8:30. the labor department reporting sector created 200,000 jobs. gdp stronger than expected this week and jobless claims dropped yesterday to a five-year low. this number is expected to be revived. manufacturing data was more than expected. it's still not quite strong enough to do what we need to do which is get the real unemployment rate down in a meaningful way that doesn't necessarily see that number drop. >> jared, let's talk more about that and pivot off what ron is saying. obviously, there is a trend that we have been watching and as we look at that trend with the unemployment rate going down, the steady decline since january. ron makes this great point that the economy is still somewhat anemic and what does this mean for the obama administration as we see that is the president's main agenda by going to the hill this week and talking to both sides, the house and the senate side, about jobs, middle class, he would begin to roll that back once there is improvement on the job situation. so if that happens, take that pillar out, then what happens? >> i'm not sure that is the case, thomas. in this week's meeting and the decision on interest rates in the federal reserve, they gave no indication of an immediate roll-back to their bond buying program which is designed to hold down long-term interest rates. the fed is not going to raise short-term interest rates until the unemployment rate itself is at 6.5% or even below. what we don't know -- or do know the unemployment rate may not be falling for the right reason. it could be people are leaving the labor force. it's not falling because more and more people are employed, although we are seeing improvements on the job front. the federal needs to see a comprehensive uniformity in the labor department before it unwinds anything. i'm in the camp that disagrees the fed will -- i don't think they are getting the right labor mark reads to move forward with that program and i think we will start to hear and see more about that. >> can i add to that? i'm in the same camp with ron. ron and i are going to the same summer camp for this here. but i'd add one very important data point. what ron said about the employment situation is exactly right and in less than ben bernanke said we are watching the employment rate. but the other thing is inflation. the fed watches that very closely and, if anything, the growth of prices a has decelerated, it has slow inside recently quarters. i think all of the data points are pointing to the fed to continue to keep the monetary medal to the metal. >> thank you both. have a great weekend. developing news out of boston. whitey bulger will not testify at his federal trial. the 83-year-old facing more than 90 criminal counts including murder, racketeering, an extortion. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. 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