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By this weekends torrent, offensive and at times dangerous tweets aimed at the nfl, nba and Nuclear North Korea. Stop me if youve seen trump play out this vaudevillian act before. His foes explode in fury and both sides play into the plan to launch a mini war. They take trumps verbal bait. As John Podhoretz said trump is pavlov. We are the dogs. While thats going on, his cabinet secretaries march out to sunday shows, humiliating themselves in defense of indefensible idiocy. Whether you love him or whether you hate him,onald trump thrives on this sort of political tribalism. His attacks are going on as Health Care Reform is hanging in the balance, about to die. His treasury and hhs secretaries are mired in spending scandals regarding corporate jets and, oh, yeah, america continues to careen to a nuclear standoff. Obsessing about mens tennis during the cuban missile crisis. Justin shanes pointed that out. Who can forget that, when at the height of the cuban missile crisis, president kennedy was like, heres the problem with mens single tennis. We wont make that mistake here. Instead, were going to focus on the commander in chiefs aimed at nuclearized north korea, all the while america moves toward its most Dangerous Nuclear showdown in 55 years and all the while the president and his party, which is now experiencing record low approval ratings, are struggling once again to try to pass a Health Care Reform bill that will lock 20, maybe 30 million americans off of the health care roles. So, with that, we have veteran columnist and msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. Senior political analyst for nbc news and msnbc, mark halperin. Professor at the university of Michigan School of public policy, democratic congressn harold ford jr. And associate editor for the Washington Post, David Ignatius and eugene robinson. Great group to talk about what really matters this morning. Lets do that. Do you want, really quickly, before let get a quick roundup from yesterday. Sure. Harold ford, what was your take on that . I listened to mnuchin and the president. Whatever you think of these young men and their approach to this peaceful protest, they have every right to do it. I found it odd that the president could find no good on that young side of these young men saying that some sort of talk about social injustice and racial inequality ought to be put forward. I was pleased to see robert kraft, steve kisch and other owners stand with their players and said were a league that tries our hardest to stand with everyone and these young men have every right to try to make their country better. Gene, what was your take of the eepts over the weekend . I was surprised at the power of the statements from some of the owners, particularly robert kraft, who gave President Trump a super bowl ring, who gave 1 million to the campaign. Yeah, but, you know, to keep it in perspective, though, he also gave Vladimir Putin a super bowl ring, right . Right, exacy. Thats true. N exactly sure how Vladimir Putin got that super bowl ring. That will be for another show. But, no, he was specifically critical of President Trump and i was frankly surprised at the degree of solidarity that most of the owners couple didnt say anything, jerry jones, included expressed with their players. So if the idea of President Trump was to play wedge politics here, im not sure exactly where hes driving the wedge. I dont think its between america and football. There are other issues with football. But i dont think he has driven that wedge. I think football pretty united. And that was my takeaway. And, mike, one of the more incredible comments that donald trump made over the weekend was that somehow football had become a game for patsies, that somehow the rules had made it too delicate. I stopped watching the nfl years ago for a variety of reasons, but one of those reasons was because i knew the people that were playing it were killing themselves, literally killing themselves with every collision. Tom landry told Jim Miklaszewski in his last year, this is not the sport i grew up in. Right. These are young men killing themselves. Aaron hernandezs scan was in the papers friday. He had the brain of a man in his mid 60s due to all the violent hits he has taken. But the president has encouraged violence. I have to tell you, i found this weekend, for many reasons, to be inordinately depressing. You had the odd juxtaposition of ken burns on vietnam, focusing on the events of the war we walked into backwards, lies and deception. When you have a president of the United States today taunting, taunting the leader of north korea. Perhaps triggering a mistaken launch of a missile. Then you have the president of the United States, in my estimation this is just my estimation. I want to be clear about that. Coming perilously close to race baiting on a friday night in alabama. And then through the weekend, majoring in division of this country rather than bringing the country together. He goes to bed one night, provoking the leader of north korea into a mistake. He wakes up the very next morning going after professional athletes, almost all of whom in some sports, the majority of them africanamerican. This is the United States of america. He does not understand the United States of america. He understands the worst of america. He doesnt understand the best of america. But he certainly does understand how to bait people. Whether its race baiting or political baiting or whatever baiting. He knew friday nht where this was going to end. And he got exactly what he wa wanted. I tried to stay away from it as much as possible. We dont want to talk about it because the more we talk about it got to talk about it a few minutes here. But the more we talk about it, the more were playing into his hand. If you were debating people people tried to start debating me over the weekend. If you do that, you are doing exactly what the president wants you to do. If you yell. If you fight. If you debate. If you get impassioned about this stuff. Thats what the president wanted. And he has the most grotesque part of this is that donald trump has now been equated with the American Flag. So, a protest against the American Flag is now yesterday was a protest against donald trump. Think about the men and the women who fought and gave their all in vietnam, what theyre thinking about that today. Theres a real and serious and passionate debate in this country where the president has some support on players protesting during the national anthem. And that debate, the president has support. When he escalates it to attacking steph curry, impugning people in the league or oppressing their rights, its not what president s normally do. It puts politics into sports in a wayhat isnt good for anyone. And he does know exactly what hes doing. If youre i mean, the president is putting this country in a horrible place. If you have any question in your mind as to whether or not he is race baiting at a certain point in time, think of charlottesville. It will give you some clarity. We have jareds emails to get to. First, like two little kids playing with legos, well talk about President Trump and north korea. An adjective to his nickname for king johnun as the leaders continue to trade personal insults amid a nuclear showdown. And we cant have madmen out there, shooting rockets all over the place. And, by the way, rocket man should have been handled a long time ago. Little rocket man were going to do it, because we really have no choice. Now hes talking about a massive weapon exploding over the ocean, pacific ocean, which causes tremendous, tremendous calamity where that plume goes, so goes cancer, so goes tremendous problems. Hes watching us like he never watched anybody before. That, i can tell you. That, i can tell you. And maybe something gets worked out and maybe it doesnt. Personally, im not sure that it will. Maybe something gets worked out, and maybe it doesnt. But i can tell you one thing, you are protected. Okay . You are protected. Those remarks presumably along with the president s threat to, quote, totally destroy the country, prompted this response from north koreas foreign minister at the united nations. He tried to insult the supreme dignity of my country by referring it to a rocket. By doing so, however, he committed an irreversible mistake of making our rockets visit to the entire u. S. Mainland inevitable all the more. And not letting that go without a response, President Trump took to twitter writing, quote, just heard foreign minister of north korea speak at u. N. If he echoes thoughts of little rocket man, they wont be around much longer. Meanwhile, u. S. Military bombers conducted a show of force. International air space but flew the farthest north of the Demilitarized Zone by any u. S. Fighter or bomber aircraft in the 21st century. David ignatius, obviously the tensions keep ratcheting up. I suppose this could go worse, rhetorically. Im not sure how, though. Its hard for me to imagine the rhetoric getting much more nastier than this. We need to remember that this is a culture where shame and dignity matter. The president is deliberately trying to shame kim jongun, rocket man. Now hes little rocket man. And at some point you can goad people into action. Perhaps President Trump hopes to goad china into action with his fire and fury and threat of war. I dont know anybody who is watching this crisis as it heads into, really, the most dangerous phase that doesnt think this is a time for quiet talk and perhaps quiet action, not visible to us, but conducting this over the airwaves, as the president has, is taking this to a point where people almost have to react. You think of the great mistakes in history, the process that led to war world i. If we were to run this tape back for historians in the future, they would just shake their heads. David, he actually put north korea into a position where, again, talking about the destruction. We threatened to completely destroy north korea at the united nations. North Korea Threatens Nuclear annihilation of the u. S. Mainland at the united nations. Fortunately that threat from north korea is empty. United states remains overwhelmingly power. North korea is a Little Country thats Getting Nuclear Weapons capability. The question is, how do you seek to resolve this crisis . Do you see maturity, deliberation in the statements that are made by the president and in the last week weve seen the opposite. Mark halperin, theres also you provoke north korea also into not firing weapons at the United States, if theyre not able to do that, certainly selling Nuclear Technology to isis or any other terror group that would love nothing more to put a dirty bomb or something worse in times square or the mall in washington. One would hope theres quiet diplomacy and also a plan here. There may not be either. Theres not. In asia culture, this kind of language and taunting is just not a good idea. It puts the North Koreans in a place we dont want them to be, where they feel they have to act. I think that the president , speaking out publicly in a different way than past president s on this thorny issue, there may be something to that, but not these kind of insults. Plenty of people in the executive branch now who dont like what the president is doing, escalate this into personal terms rather than talk about American Values and in which the world is united. He has also done. Once he does the personal insults, as always, thats do we know where the Foreign Policy team stands on this . Theyre against the insult. Theyre against the insults . Of course. And harold, theyve warned against the insults for some time. Weve heard them talk about the importance of keeping this quiet, stay off twitter when youre talking about a Nuclear North Korea and one of the most dangerous situation since the cuban missile crisis. I agree with everything thats been said so far. Have you heard someone go before the u. N. And say that a strike is inevitable . We think its an empty charge but its still there. Two, there was a piece that said we are working with contractors, u. S. Government is, defense experts, to figure out how we gat isis increasing use of drones. Theyre using it against militias, our supporters in the middle east. Can you imagine if theres some sort of agreement between north korea and isis, to put those miniaturized heads on a drone . To your point, there was another piece over the weekend. Blane harden in the New York Times spoke of the quiet diplomacy that should be taking place, were going to have to engage in a long, drawnout cold war, back to negotiations between us and china, us and japan and have ambassador go to korea and their ambassadors come to the u. S. So wholly and so tragically, in many ways, over the weekend, because we were worried if the president was going to tweet something negative against steph curry or a football player. If action does have to be taken, the United States will be taking it alone, most likely, because the president s tweets, insults, childish behavior, has isolated the United States of america. And were talking about a nuclear war. Eugene robinson, im thinking about mattis, mcmaster, powell. Kelly. Working on north korea. How is there any possibility that theyre not sitting there going, our positive has completely lost his mind. What else would cross their mind at this point as theyre trying to carry out a Foreign Policy and the president is a loose cannon . I think theres a lot of forehead smacking and sleepless nights, frankly, among those officials and some others because i dont think the president has, you know, some sort of subtle, thoughtout plan here. No. We can bank on that, gene. Were good. I mean, he doesnt he may be betting that in the end north korea doesnt attack and so he looks tough and he looks like hes sort of talked them down. Although, to what end . Its totally unclear. Its a very, very dangerous game hes playing. Its a dangerous situation he inherited. He didnt create the situation but hes making it worse rather than better. Here is the problem. You mentioned sleepless nights, gene. The president of the United States has sleepless nights. Check out the twitter feed. Check the time code on the twitter feed. Wont be around much longer, tweet. 11 08 p. M. Friday night. Wakes up saturday morning, 6 15, 6 16 a. M. , attacking the nba and the nfl. And this is a president do you think he dreamt about that or woke up beforehand . I dont know. This is a president that clearly his staff, some wonderful people, general kelly, general mattis, general mcmaster, they have no control over the president of the United States, what he does, what he says, what he tweets. Not sure what its worth to them. Goading another country into firing a missile at us. This, at a time David Ignatius mentioned how world war i began, in tragedy, a mistake, takes a left instead of a right. Hes dead. World war i begin begins. In july and august, many saw this play out on television, july and august of 1964, two american ships in the gulf. Were they fired upon . We still dont know. But what we do know is there 58,000 names on a wall in washington, d. C. Because of a mistake. And here, in 2017, David Ignatius, were talking about a nuclear showdown. Were talking about the hottest of hot wars and a president w who i dont know exactly. Behaving irrationally. Like hes in a schoolyard. Behaving irrationally and in a way that suggests that he has some problems. No grasp of the fact that millions of peoples lives are literally at stake in north korea and south korea, eventually in seattle, san francisco, los angeles. And yet he appears determined to bait north korea into a nuclear showdown. And i do wonder at what point do those around him say enough . Joe, i think viewers should undetand that these taunting tweets, which weve all deplored, trying to bring china in as our principle ally and interlocking with north korea. Its having some success. Two u. N. Security Council Resolutions voted unanimously with Chinese Support and additional sanctions that have Chinese Support, something they said they would never do. A chinese statement that said they would work to use their banks to cut off funding to north korea. The danger is that the president popping off to show how tough he is, is going to i worry about the missiles being fired in some ways to the chinese deciding this is too radical for us. The question is, is the president himself going to undermine the strategy his aides have worked to construct . Still ahead on morning joe, an update on the health care fight with three senators in the thick of it. Mike rounds and Debbie Stabenow and Maria Cantwell. During the campaign, donald trump repeatedly criticized Hillary Clinton for her use of private email. Certainly should. Nothing applies to the family. The law does not apply to this president or his family. You cant use private email. Scandalous. Unless youre in the trump family. What . What do you mean . If youre in the trump family, nothing applies to you and you can do whatever you want. What are you talking about . Hillary clintons not in the trump family. What are you talking about . Everyone will allow it, even the administration. Now theres new reporting that his soninlaw, Jared Kushner, has his own private email. What . Who knew . Private email . First, well go to bill karins with a check on how things are going in puerto rico. No tweets about pewter reeko were there . No, thank you, mr. President , for caring bond anythi about yourself. Oh, wait. The human suffering in puerto rico, bill, cant be overstated. It cant. Post katrina, we all saw what happened in new orleans and mississippi, but as you remember, we were all able to drive over to puerto rico and mississippi i mean to louisiana and mississippi. People were able to get in their cars and go to houston and go north and go west. Here, the human suffering on this island is horrific. They cant escape. And they cant go anywhere. Its hard to get in there. Cargo ships are struggling to get into ports, once theyre cleared, the airports. Go read the Washington Post article. A reporter went into the mountain mountains, in the Rural Regions to see what it is like there. It is horrifying. Mothers are with their grandparents, the mosquitos. She had cotton balls in her ears to try to keep the bugs from going in her ears because the house was partially destroyed and that was the only shelter they had. This is five days later now. People are running out of supplies that they had prepared for the storm. Water is running out. Food is running out. Theres no power. Atms arent working. People are running out of money. Theyre running out of cash on the island. Things are getting more difficult, not better. To add to the misery, yesterday was 94 degrees, record high. Heat index was 106 degrees and no one has power. Imagine all the elderly people with that incredible heat. I wonder if more people died yesterday in that incredible heat than when the hurricane actually struck. Well ner know because theres no reporting out of these areas because theres no power, theres no phones. Theres no cell. Well continue to watch that. Today will be 90 degrees. Heat index 100 to 105. Were watching that one dam that was threatened to fail. So far the spillway is holding and theres still flash flood warnings for that. Well continue to monitor the situation and give you all the updates out of puerto rico. Were not going to forget about this story and the suffering of americans every day until they can get power back and get things back to normal, which will take months. Youre watching morning joe. Its never been easier. Except when it comes to your Retirement Plan. But at fidelity, were making Retirement Planning clearer. And it all starts with getting your Fidelity Retirement score. In 60 seconds, youll know where you stand. 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I think, actually, it just speaks for itself. Yep. Say no more. That was President Trumps reaction to senator john mccain coming out on friday against his partys Health Care Bill. The president continued his attacks on mccain early saturday morning. Quote, john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. He campaigned on repeal and replace. Let arizona down. I think now we could repeat the line, have you no shame, sir . Have you no shame . Again, its john mccain. Have you no marbles . Struggling, fighting for his theres such a disconnect. A real problem. Such a disconnect. Theres a word for it. Chuck schumer sold john mccain a bill of goods. Sad. This is our president. As well as, quote, mccain let his best friend, lg, Lindsey Graham, down. Another republican against the legislation is senator Susan Collins of maine who said yesterday, quote, its very difficult for me to envision a scenario where i would end up voting for the grahamcassidy bill. Grants were added to entice senator collins as well as another key republican holdout, senator Lisa Murkowski of alaska. Get out of coverage regulations, including essential Health Benefits and while it says Insurance Companies must cover people with preexisting conditions, it would not prohibit them from charging more money. All right. So, anyway, overnight, if you want to keep score at home, they are trying to bribe Lisa Murkowski in alaska and they are trying to bribe Susan Collins from maine, trying to bribe them with political grants that help their states with the expense of other states even after Susan Collins has said that this bill does not guarantee that preexisting conditions would be covered in the future. If i were Susan Collins, i would be insulted. Theyre suggesting that they can be bought. Hat Susan Collins can be bribhat she doesnt give a dam about preexisting conditions. And again i think theyll be sadly disappointed because we know Susan Collins and weve watched Lisa Murkowski. These two senators are probably the least likely senators to be bribed by this cornhusker kickback that Lindsey Graham himself was deriding a few months ago. Also have trouble on the right with ted cruz and mike lee. Cruz said hes not going to support it . Currently not supporting it. Maybe they can win their support. The thing they had going for them was failure was unimaginable. I think their chances of the bill still not scored by the Congressional Budget Office getting 50 votes today seems quite, quite low. No cbo score, no regular order. No nothing. Theyre trying to reorder onesixth of the largest economy in the world on a bill that they have no no idea what the cost is, no idea what the impact is. Theres been no testimony from health care experts. Every Health Care Group of note is against this bill. 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To grow your business with us in the finger lakes, visit esd. Ny. Gov. 39 past the hour. Joining us now, Ranking Member of the subcommittee on health care, Debbie Stabenow of michigan. She recently introduced Bipartisan Legislation to extend the Childrens Health care program for five years. Great to have you on the show. Can you believe were here again . Its unbelievable, actually. I wish we were here talking about the fact that the Childrens Health Insurance Program runs out at the end of the week. Weve had bipartisan efforts going on to lower costs for health care, increase coverage, which is what we ought to be doing. Instead here we are again. With repeal and replace. Here we are again. So, any chance this is going to pass . I doubt it, but theyre changing it again today. I go back today to a finance Committee Hearing on the original bill, which they are now changing again. And everything weve seen, this is only worse. It completely takes away any semblance of trying to deal with preexisting conditions without having cost goes through the roof. I have to give one example from michigan. The numbers, heres what we know. When this thing would be fully phased in, we would see 140 billion, billion dollars in lost Health Care Funding for coverage. The state budget that the governor just signed is only 56 billion. When they say the states are going to make up the money, theres not a chance. No way. Gene robinson is in waington with a question. Gene . Senator, im curious about the atmosphere inside the senate these days. We always thought of the senate as a special and distinguished place. And it just seems so chaotic and ad hoc. How is this affecting the 100 members of the worlds greatest deliberative body . Well, eugene, it is chaotic, totally chaotic and maddening on health care when you look at the fact that theyre treating it look a political chess game instead of the fact that it represents peoples lives. Can you take your child to the doctor, get your cancer treatments . What about your moms alzheimers . These are real things for real people they keep moving things around so they can say they got a political win and check the box. Its very frustrating. We came back in september with lamar alexander, patty murray, many of us sitting down to say how are we going to Fix Health Care . We put together a great bipartisan great with orrin hatch and myself and others to extend Childrens Health care and the rug got pulled out frund us. 9 million children get covered under the program and that ends this friday and well focus now on how to rip apart the health care system. Senator, there have been these efforts with senator alexander and other republicans to try to fix it. Just talking in broad terms, what would that piece of legislation do . Who would it help . Who would it hurt . First of all we have to stabilize the system. We there are people paying too much on premiums and copays. Guaranteeing that the pieces put in place under the Affordable Care act are there. The cautionary payments. Susan collins and bill nelson have a reinsurance proposal thats very good. Making sure were doing outreach for young people so healthier people, younger people are part of the pool so that costs go down. That piece of it, coupled with extending Childrens Health insurance, Health Centers, Community Health centers, roy blount and i have 70 senators on a letter, we want to extend Health Center money, bipartisan effort. Thats what we want to be done. Thats what we want to do before the end of the week. And were wasting all our time. The president would probably support all of that. Im sure the president would support all of that. I hope that senator mcconnell will see the votes arent there. Hell stop it and we can go on to these things where we could actually get something done. Steve ratner has some charts on financial ramifications of the plan. There are good reasons why this plan is on life support, as senator stabenow said. Well run through numbers, financial and real impact on people. Financial side of the equation, this is a legislative trojan horse that sneaks in and then gets you. Budget cuts over the next seven to eight years that are not inconsequential, but not, obviously, massive in the great scheme of life. Here is what happens in 2027. In 2027, all of the expansion provisions of the Affordable Care act expire. The subsidies for people who buy exchanges and people who buy through medicare. Effectively, obamacare, as we know it, more or less ends in 2027. If you look at the impact on real people in the next chart what youll see is that while initially the loss of insurance, again, is in the 15 million range for reasons ill explain in a second, eventually it goes to 32 million, which is the full amount of the loss of insurance for people under obamacare. The reason why more people lose insurance faster than the money goes down is because this bill would eliminate the requirement that you buy insurance, eliminate the requirement that your number is 32 million . 32 million. Where does that come from . Whats the source . Cbo number. And brookings came out with a study last week essentially validating it. These are not crazyeyed liberals. Cbo is coming out by day with an assessment of this. Not a full score just an assessment. He got that in. Real quick, two question. One more chart. We know that. Well get to all of your charts, steve. Harold has a question. Two quick ones as youre thinking about it. Republicans complain that medicaid, spending will get out of control and we cant sustain t how do we address that . And, two, who are the winners in Graham Cassidy . Who are the real winners if, indeed, 30 million plus people will lose insurance . You gave me the perfect leadin to my next chart. Thats why sometimes you should allow questions. Its like we planned it. The idea of giving the states some more flexibility over how they use medicaid dollars is not a bad idea. This say wholesale cutting of funding for expansion of medicaid f you look here, youll see who are the winners and losers. Dark blue state also lose the most money. By the time you get to the end, new york would lose 1,000 per person, california would lose 700 a person. Not coincidentally, these states are in blue and they are blue. They expanded medicaid. Who are the winners . The states that didnt expand medicaid like texas, missouri, alabama. And they actually would get 300, 400, 500 more per person. Technically thats mississippi. Im sorry, i meant to say mississippi. Alabama, arizona, maine, they are losers under this current proposal and kentucky, ironically, i cant see on my little screen but hopefully you can see there. They had a very functioning Health Care Exchange and would be a big loser in this as well. And, senator, you can speak to this. If you put up the chart again, three of the four states that are losers are states that helped donald trump win the electoral college, michigan, ohio and pennsylvania. This whole thing is stunning. I want to go back to harolds question on medicaid. I would argue that certainly in michigan, expanding medicaid to people who are in minimum wage jobs, take their child to the doctor rather than using emergency room will save the state of michigan money. People walking into the emergency room that cant pay. The state budgets that 435 million more in it next year in savings because theyre not paying for you have real numbers to show we have real numbers and 94 of the children in michigan can now see a doctor, which is actually a good thing. Yes. And you bring up one of the most overlooked things by socalled conservatives who suggest no Health Care Coverage, actually, is more fiscally responsible coming from the federal government. We guarantee universal Health Care Coverage in america now. We just guarantee it in the least cost efficient way possible. A mother, a single mom can take her children to the emergency room at 11 00, 11 30 at night. Again, as sort of a First Responder to their Childrens Health issues and then theyll get an advil for 43. Then they will get a bandaid for i dont know how much. Weve seen the numbers. We have seen how inflated it is when we treat it that way instead of having a holistic approach that will make more fiscal sense. Wont it . Joe, you are absolutely right. Thank you. Well im not saying youre always right. Steve ratner his favorite words. Not always but just one case. Yeah. Its amazing to me that republicans think by ignoring health care it just goes away and nobody will get sick. Thats not what happens. If you ignore it, you just pay for it in the most expensive way, using emergency rooms. If you can have somebody go to a doctor or senior preventive screenings or get your cancer reenings rather than waiting till stage four cancer. Its the same thing with diabetes. You dont do you dont fund whats required up front to prevent diabetes but after somebody gets diabetes, we all, as a country then, at that point, will pay for the amputation, pay for the kidney dialysis. Exactly. Pay for the most expensive parts of the disease instead of you know, its benjamin on is worth a pound of cure. Right now were spending our money on the cure. Its important to remember for conservatives who think that just saying no is going to save money, we spend more money per as a country than any country on the planet per person on health care, and in part, its because we dont have a system that actually looks at it universally, wholistically, and figures out how to take care of the neediest in the most cost efficient say. There no doubt about it. Weve seen Health Care Costs stabilize in the last number of years when more people could actually go to a doctor rather than the emergency room. We have real numbers on that. This isnt making it up. Somehow people think that, again, that ignoring this is that nobody is going to get sick. What we ought to be doing is focusing on how do you lower costs, Prescription Drug costs being the largest driver, and how do you increase coverage in a way that makes sense, and weve got plans to do that. Senator Debbie Stabenow, thank you so much. And thank you for the charts, steve. 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The wall is happening. In fact, you probably saw we have a wall up there now. And were renovating it already. Its being made pristine, perfect, just as good as know, although we may go higher, and were building samples of the new wall. It has to be a seethrough wall. If you cant have vision through it, you dont know who is on the other side. Lets say its a Precast Concrete wall and now there are people on the other side. I was given an example, its so bad its going to stop drugs and a lot of bad things. I think to be honest a seethrough wall would look better. You dont have that whatever it might be. He should have been handled a long time ago by clinton. I wont mention the republicans, right . By backup. Were dealing with somebodhat well figure out. He may be smart. He may be strategic and totally crazy, but no matter what he is, were going to handle it, folks. Believe me. Were going to handle it. Well, its just a little bit of what we that should give you a taste thats what we saw from President Trump on friday. Snake oil salesman from years past. Pt ban m, others would be envies you use of his ability to whip people up in a frenzy talking about things that will never come to fruition. Building a see through wall. If you believe that, stay away from your email account because theres somebody from nambia that is going to email you and ask you to help them to get some money into the country. 25,000. 25,000 to 50,000 theyll pay you. If you just remind to the email. All they need are your credit cards and Social Security numbers and then Everything Else will be taken care of. A bank routing number. 25,000 to 50,000. I havent gotten the money yet, i replied over the weekend. I expect to get the money today. You go down to the border, and you stand on one side. There is a translucent wall, a clear wall, and if youtand there, theres this beautiful little envelope. Theyll pass you your money through that. The president is paying strict attention to the economy, and its going to be a renovation project now. You heard him say, its going to be on this old house. But its got to be clear. See through. You think they could use safelite for this . I think so. Innovation. And theyll also have the door ringer. Absolutely. Hello. Im not sure right now i mean, im here right now. Welcome back to morning joe, everyone. I want to go to bob costa. I will introduce everybody, but were going to jump straight to bob costa first, because hes the one that has incite and is going to tell us exactly what the alabama speech awas about. He was playing trumps greatest hits on friday night. What was the aim or intention . As i was talking to sources over the weekend about that speech and about the president s drama with sports stars, they say hes nervous about tuesday. He says the polls as well as anyone else, and he sees a possible defeat. He wants to remind his base he still has power and hes still who they believe he is. A lot of his speech and what hes doing, people close to the president tell me this is about him trying to reconnect with the base before this possible defeat on tuesday. Bob, what is so interesting is that for the first time in his presidency, for the first time in eight months, donald trump enjoyed three consecutive weeks of rising poll number. In part because he was behaving somewhat more rationally than he had for the first eight months, and that took a horrid detour starting friday night. Is there not an awareness that playing it more at least down the middle helped him over the past three weeks . I think whenou know the pres well, they say theres a key misunderstanding about the key bipartisan. That he wasnt trying to play to the center. What he was was frustrated. He was looking for a win. Leader mcconnell and speaker ryan hadnt been providing him victories. Hes always searching for that victory. Thats why he reached out to pelosi and schumer and why hes so on edge about alabama. He doesnt see a victory. He doesnt frame things in partisan or ideological terms. Its all about the win. Gene, if you look at how hes approaching everything, how would you characterize someone who thinks that way on every aspect from health care to whatever was going on with the nfl over the weekend so kim jongun . Well, totally self absorbed. Totally concerned about looking tough, looking a certain way, appearing to be the donald trump that his base voted for as opposed to being concerned about doing the right thing. And dangerous. Dangerous in the way that he is putting up fire under this dangerous situation with north korea. Putting a fire under racial conflict in this country in the way that he did friday night going after, frankly, African American athletes who took a knee for the national anthem. Exacerbating conflict in his own interest. David ignatius, switching to north korea, the other big story were talking about, now that the General Assembly is over, where do those discussions switch to . Whats the forum for the next steps . We have private channels to the North Koreans. Im sure those are being used. The chinese are working as near as i can tell fairly closely with the United States. In this moment of confrontation, the question is are we seeing a prelude to the beginning of talks either secret talks that the table may be set now, or public talks down the road . There had been a feeling that some of kim jonguns extreme action, his series of tests might be an attempt to strengthen his bargaining position before talks begin. The problem is that this is the game of nuclear chicken, and you cant be sure that the pressure will lead in the direction that you want toward diplomacy or in the opposite direction. What i do know is that underneath all of the rhetoric we hear from President Trump, there is a lot of thought going on about precisely what issues would arise in the diplomatic negotiations, what positions the u. S. Would take, and quite good cooperation not simply with china but also with the other key allies, japan and south korea. Robert, given the fact that youre very wellsourced with this new administration, what is the level of concern, if any, among those closest to the president , staff closest to the president , that as you indicated the president is interested simply and most primarily in a win . That his ideology is pretty much nonexistent, that he knows very little about the details of the Health Care Plan, that he knows very little about the details of various legislative proposals, tax bills and everything like that, and that he is proned to doing what he did friday night in alabama with no advanced warning to the staff in tweeting either very late at night or very early in the morning with no control from the staff over the tweets. Whats the concern among the staffer, if any, about the behavior. They try to separate the behavior. They look at the legislative agenda and say at least hes not trying to hammer out the details like some previous president s certainly would and say they want this but not that. If something gets to his desk, they expect him to sign it on tax reform, on health care. But on twitter they cannot control him. General kelly has put in different protocols. Weve all written about it how hes closed the door of the oval office and done many things to try to formalize the white house, but he has not formalized the day today behavior of the president in fact its impossible to do. The president , once he goes up to his residence at nit, hes the same donald trump hes always been. Having his phone in the hand tweeting away. And for anybody that doesnt think that Donald Trumps this weekend reconnected him with the base that he feared he was losing with the Nancy Pelosi Chuck schumer deal, you dont know Donald Trumps space. We have to be careful to say donald trump is irrational, even though he looks for irrational. Thats all hes doing. It was like the transgender tweet that made no sense. That was a response to a fear that he had as bob said, with his base. Now, of course, the stupidity of it, in my humble opinion is, okay, you reconnect with 31 . You just were at 40 , and now youre driving yourself back down to post charlottesville numbers. Except that on the initial question of how people feel about athletes kneeling during the anthem. Right. Its more than a 30 proposition. Sure. The majority, theres no doubt, the majority of americans likely disagree with that action. Right. And so then when he broadens it out to other criticisms on the violence in football to disinviting teams from the white house, then he starts talking more about a base proposition. But the initial thing is much more broadly popular in just the base. You c be offended by people kneeling. You can be an independent in america that voted for donald trump. And you can be offended by the kneeling, harold, and still say, hey, stay out of my football and basketball, whatever. I dont like them kneeling, but i really hate you getting involved in this trying to make political points. You had a tweet over the weekend, joe, to the effect that hoping the players can find a way to take a stand without degrading the flag and soldiers. I think it probably reconnects. By the way this is so hostile that even that tweet offended a lot of people. I was just trying to say dont help donald trump and it shows you im just saying. I agree with you. This is such a hot bed culturally that its he knew exactly what he was doing which is why i dont want to debate it. We play right into it. Im going to leave it. Barnicle said something earlier about perhaps some of the other cultural wars he was trying to take us back to. In alabama people having their privacy invaded because of a hack. There had to be people at the rally. He chose a cultural war that hes comfortable with. And to watch Steve Mnuchin defend that after several of his class mates said how can you defend a president who says that nenazis, theres good ones and bad ones. He defended it, and then he said if they want to peacefully protest, they shouldnt do it during the game. I wouldnt do that. I would salute the anthem. I understand these guys have a constitutional right to do it. Why do this . Not only do they have a constitutional right to do this, obviously, and even if i disagree with them or i wouldnt want them doing that, the president of the United States tweets attacks toward these men. He cursed them. And cursed at them, and basically put them in a position where if they didnt do that, then donald trump would puff his chest out and say, you big, tough, nfl players, they backed down to me. Again, as john said, trump is pavlov and were all his dogs. Everybody reacted. He put you could it would be hard to find a more sort of conservative cohort than nfl owners. Right . Theyre all millionaires or billionaires. Many of whom contributed to either the Trump Campaign or the trump inaugural committee, and they, he put them in a position of having to come out basically as a block with i think only two exceptions to support their players to get on the other side of this issue, and i thought the most sort of cringe worthy moments of the weekend were watching that Steve Mnuchin defense. I mean, it was just pathetic. You almost felt sorry for the guy, but it was so awful that i wouldnt actually feel sorry for him, because, look, dude, what are you defending . Youre defending the indefensible, and you know it. The comment they can do free speech on their own time is so ignorant of what the First Amendment was drafted to protect. No. Its not on your own time. Its not when it makes you if it makes you uncomfortable. Thats why the First Amendment is there. Not and this is what you know, this is what conservatives try to preach on college campuses, rightly, because theres a real chilling of First Amendment rights on college c campuses across america, and yet, nfl players, they bebruj nfl players doing the same thing. Steve mnuchin is a mini me without the bombast. Think hand him his talking points. He went through them and made his that is so sad. Thats so disappointing. What a pathetic using Government Resources at fort knox. And watching the clips the next time an eclipse comes. The saddest thing is this is not about the flag. This is not about a song. This is about Collin Kaepernicks right, our right to be free. To do what you want to do in this country within reason. And thats within reason. You have to look at the context. This president is fanning the flames of this argument while hes goading the nuke testing leader of north korea who is also not stable while hes trying to ram through a Health Care Bill that he knows nothing about. Thats the reality. Thats failing. Thats bad. Thats failing. Thats being a loser. The Senate Finance committee is set to hold a hearing to Overall Health care. With us now a member of the committee, democratic senator Maria Cantwell of washington. Is that right, we want to talk about health care, but please, feel free to jump in and talk about flags or nfl players or nba players. It apotpourri. Remember in the past when axis of evil seemed like too much to say . I do think this is an important discussion. I think the president needs to bone up on the difference between freedom of speech and hate crimes. These are two things that we really need to make sure we understand and understand clearly. Yeah. Yeah. I dont think he has the ability to do that. Lets talk about health care. The future of health care for millions of americans hangs in the balance regardless of what happens on this vote coming up, maybe thursday, friday, saturday. Even barack obama said that the Affordable Care act needs to be revamped. There are some changes that everybody knew was coming down the road. And yet, it seems like, you know, were just sitting around here doing the same thing over and over again. What happens if the bill goes down . Is there a chance that theres a bipartisan plan that republicans and democrats can put together that will be around ten years from now . Well, the task at hand is affordabili affordability. That is why my colleagues who were suggesting that you kick people off of health care as their winning solution which is not about affordability and certainly will drive up the costs for everybody across the board if those people go back into going to the emergency room for care, so were very willing to sit down with our colleagues and discuss how we put more affordability into the individual market. Steve . Senator steve rattner. On related Health Care Proposal has come to us from bernie sanders, as you know, a single payer plan. He has at least 16, a third of the Democratic Caucus in the senate supporting it. Some have questioned whether this is becoming a litmus test for democrats, whether theyre on the senators side of health care or on a more moderate side of health care. Is this proposal helping or hurting the Democratic Party come together behind a cohesive set of ideas in anticipation of the next two elections . I always to borrow from your earlier segment on football, i always believe in playing this weeks game, and this weeks game is making sure that we stop this illconceived idea that our colleagues seem content on continuing to push even though there are hospitals, physicians, organizations all across america who are saying this will gut our health care, so please stop putting this proposal on the table. We have to fight that battle first. As you can see, while weve had some good support just this past friday, we have to make sure that we execute on this this week and continue to win this debate. Harold. Senator campbell, good morning, harold ford. What are your ideas about how to change or amend or improve the obamacare Affordable Care act in the short term as we talk about the games coming up. And are there any elements that would fix it that are involved in the bipartisan piece of legislation that looks to be being worked on by the two of them . Im always for something that i call the costco model. That is if you buy in bulk, you should get a discount, and new york took the Affordable Care act and did just that. They have about 650,000 people on a plan that theyre buying for roughly about 500 a year instead of the 1500 to 2 ,000 on the exchange. If youre the individual market and you dont work for a large employer, you should be able to get the same right that the other employees get. Its a state option that allows states to do that. So the Alexander Murray discussions are continuing to talk about how we do reinsurance to make sure there is affordability in the market for those people who have been the sickest or have preexisting conditions. I would just say i believe those two can get somewhere. Theyve proven that in the past, and i think if we let them do their job instead of continuing to push throwing millions of people off medicaid, we will get somewhere. Senator, i want to ask you about the Tech Industry that you know a lot about. Should facebook be trusted to fix its practices regarding interference in elections or does the government need to get involved in regulating them . Im concerned about cyber sk security at large. We need to get serious about cyber security. We need to get the doj the right kind of authority to make sure were preparing for what is now a constant hacking of even our critical structure like pipelines and Nuclear Power plants and yes, we need to make sure the American People believe in our election system. Lets see how this moves forward with the information we get from facebook and then we can take it from there. Do you believe this alabama primary run off on tuesday could prompt retirements on the republican side and change the dynamics in the senate . Yes. Thats pretty good. Who do you think might retire . Look, i dont know, but i certainly hope that we have become a more collaborative body. I can say yes i always say yes, i know were in washington d. C. And you want to regulate. Im from washington and we want to innovate, but the next level of innovation comes from actually taking the information and collaborating on it. And if we have 40 people in the house who are just no at every step of the way, or we have a senate that turns which is the more deliberative body into an environment where everybody shows up and is no, then america cant move forward on the good ideas that are out there, and i guarantee you that is exactly what we need to do to move forward in our country is to be more collaborative. Senator Maria Cantwell, thank you so much. Robert costa, thank you as well. Also a tennessee man has been charged with murder after opening fire inside a nashville area church. Police have identified the suspect as 25yearold. According to investigators he drove into the Church Parking lot yesterday morning. He was reportedly wearing a ski mask and armed with a handgun when he shot and killed a woman coming out of the church. Police say he went inside and continued shooting, wounding six other people. He came running from the church, from the parking lot, and he was shooting, and then he stand in the pulpit, and he start shooting more and looking to his left, and thats when he came in the front, in the middle, and then this guy came up fighting with him and tackled him down. According to police, a church usher, 22yearold robert angle tackled the shooter. The usher who police say had been pistol whipped was able to run to his car, retrieve his own handgun and made sure no other shots were fired. A Judicial Commission ordered last night sampson be held without bond. He attended the church a fu few years ago, but the motive is under investigation. The department of justice and fbi have opened a federal civil rights investigation with no explanation or further comment of that. 22 years old, he saved some lives yesterday in church. Bless him and his family. Put himself out there. Still ahead, weve heard from two Senate Democrats this morning here in the studio on morng joe. 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Im sorry about that. Well get to health care in a second. We have David Ignatius with us. I have to ask you about north korea. Is there any possibility that the president s language and approach to the leader of north korea is in step with members of the Armed Services committee and also his Foreign Policy team . Well, we know we have to do something about the situation that is evolving. We hear you. We understand sanctions, Everything Else that is happening. But im talking about his language. The way he is goading the leader of north korea in the words that he is using. Separate out his actions from the discussion that hes having right now that is for the american public. The discussions that he has right now is just as if he was sitting at a coffee place talking to folks around him. Look at his actions and what hes doing. Those are what were going to be following. Thats what were following within arped services. Were talking about we finally have serious discussions about economic sanctions. Not just around the peripheral but going after the banks that are actually doing business in north korea. China has a problem with north korea as well. And they recognize it. Corruption within their provinces around north korea is based upon the fact that north korea is doing things that china doesnt want happening this their own country. Im talking about the way the president is speaking about the leader of north korea. It sounds goading, taunting, childlike. Are you at all concerned about it . Is it at all in step with the Armed Services committee or the Foreign Policy team . Does this seem to be a good approach to you . Well let the president speak for himself and the direction hes going. Is it the language i would use . No. But the president is elected. Hes the one who is laying out a focus. We still go back to what his actions are. And his actions have been consistent and finally were getting to the point where were providing economic sanctions that we think will work. This is better than military action. We have to try diplomacy and check sacs first. Thats whats going on now, and finally were doing things with major banks in china that will force them to slow down their activity in north korea. North korea will feel the sanctions. These are the ones that have just been announced. I think what mika is getting at is do you believe the behind the scenes talking, us wanting china to come to the table, asian culture, they dont like the poking, the personal poking. For the president to call him little rocket, i understand your point. Youre taking the high road. Does that talk not impact the ability to reach a diplomatic solution . Time will tell whether or not the president s approach is successful or not. As weve discussed time and again, its the actions that north korea sees, their bottom line in terms of their policies, their Economic Development opportunities, their survival capabilities are based upon other people supporting and subsidizing them. Including china and russia. That means imports of fuels. It means accepting exports from north korea and so forth. Those are the Critical Issues right now. The irritations that this president may be sending to their leader may get his attention, may frustrate him, and were not sure how thats going to play out. Most certainly the president of the United States has the opportunity to look at it and get good advice from his team as well. How he takes it is up to the president. David ignatius has a question. I think everyone hopes that the diplomatic efforts will be successful, but i want to ask you about the military side. You remember the Armed Services committee, theres a lot of talk among defense analysts about the need for a Crash Program that developed what are described as boost phase intercepters that could take out north korean missiles in the first two minutes of their launch. Its an interesting idea. Is that something you think that we should be thinking about spending money onto make that happen quickly . Yes. But i will also tell you that there are a number of opportunities that we have. We do have some in place today. We are i will also share with you there are always new programs under development, some in different phases. Most certainly north korea has been identified as a problem child for the rest of the world for some time now. We recognize that longterm we have to have the ability to defensively protect ourselves and our allies. That takes several different forms. First part is being able to identify when a laungh occurs as soon as possible. Second to be able to intercept in an appropriate fashion and finally to make the hit or the kill on the targeted vehicle. All of which not only do we have some capability of today, but we most certainly have to improve longterm. Youve seen that in terms of iron dome in israel which weve participated in. David sling and so forth. Those are ongoing processes all of which can help us with north korea. You have to understand, though, none of those are absolutely perfect. Diplomacy is still appropriate. Economic sanctions are still the best. Lets do everything we cannot to get into a fighting war. But i will say this. If we get into a fighting war, it probably means the end of north korea. Gene robinson. Senator, so switch the subject to health care for a second. What are the financial implications for south dakota . Not whats the dollar implications of the latest bill . How many people will lose insurance in your state . Just specifically what are those numbers . Sure. Recognize we just got new numbers last night or what were just looking at today. In both scenarios south dakota actually comes out to the positive. We were a nonexpansion state who applied for expansion but were pushed down because we couldnt agree on the conditions. In south dakota well go anywhere from several hundred Million Dollars to in excess of 1. 2 billion in a period of six years. Were actually on the Positive Side of this. For two reasons. For the first time we have native americans being recognized as having an entitlement to health care under their treaties, and we can use medicaid for the first time under this proposal for 100 federal funding rather than basically a 50 50 split with the state of south dakota. This fixes a couple of problems for native americans who are suffering under coverages from Indian Health services which none of us want to inflict on anybody let alone native americans in the future. Senator mike rounds of south dakota. Horrifying. Thank you. Sorry about that. Thank you for coming on the show this morning. You bet. President trump issues a new expanded travel band. Well tell you whats different this time. Plus health and Human Services secretary tom price says hell take a break from using taxpayer money to fly around on jets until the invest is finished. Morning joe is coming right back. My experience with usaa has been excellent. They always refer to me as master sergeant. They really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. Weve got auto insurance, homeowners insurance. Had an accident with a vehicle, i actually called usaa before we called the police. Usaa was there handson very quick very prompt. I feel like were being handled as people that actually have a genuine need. Were the webber family and we are usaa members for life. Usaa, get your insurance quote today. Listerine® total care strengthens teeth, after brushing, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. 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Prices always says he started using charter jets after an unreliable commercial flight forced him to cancel an important meeting at a Southern California ritz. But the thats pretty rough. If youre thinking youre going to go to a ritz and then youre there a few minutes late like everybody else in america. Yeah. But the site reports a storm at the time grounded all flights in the area. So it wasnt really unreliable. This is like act of god material. His office also said the use of private jets was to make sure he gets outside of washington to connect hold on. Hold on. To connect with real americans. So he said he needs to fly you use taxpayer money. Let me help you. Stop talking. Not you. Hes saying he has to use taxpayer money to fly in private jets to connect with real americans. Is that do i understand that right . Uhhuh. I think politico reports that the meeting he had to get to, though, was at a conference packed with executives from the health industry. Theyre real people too, right . This only happened once or twice . No. Price has reportedly taken at least 24 charter jets over the past four months. A hand full of times if you have very big hands. At least he never criticized other government officials who used private jets. Right . I know currently not once but im open to new data. I think he may have. Oh, he did. Steve, didnt he criticize yeah. Government officials that flew on private jets . When he was in congress. And hes done it 24 times because he was late to the ritz. And he needs to connect. With health care industry. This is somebody who maybe has challenges when it comes to honesty. Lets go to chris tkristen w. President trump updated his travel ban last night while everybody was talking about the National Football league. What can you tell us about the travel ban. Reporter good morning. This is the third version of the controversial travel ban and its more far reaching than the first two. It adds restrictions on travelers and immigrants from north korea. Tensions are obviously mounting with that country. Also chad and venezuela. It blocks all visas from north korea and visas from business or tourist travel from venezuela. It keeps restrictions on five of the six muslim countries, iran, libya, somalia, syria and yemen. It drop restrictions on visitors from sudan. They say sudan is cooperating. The president tweeting defending the move. Making america safe is my number one priority. We will not admit those into the country we cannot safely vet. It wont take effect until october 15th. Its already growing backlash from those who say bottom line this is unconstitutional. The white house had a Conference Call with reporters last night. They said they believe this latest version is tough, but they say its also targeted. Officials here also hoping the latest ban will bolster their argument the president isnt specifically targeting muslims since the new countries added to the ban arent muslim majority countries. Kristen welker, thank you. How did north korea not make the first list . Not muslim. You wonder. And you could even ask the question how is it that in 2003 we attacked the one country out of the three, the axis of evil, that didnt develop nukes . I mean, that was hard. You had a 66. 66 of hitting the right target. We went into the one where they werent developing nuclear weapons. Okay. Up next, the football conversation the president didnt inject himself into this weekend. Sec football, right . Back in a moment. This is me when i feel controlled by frequent, unpredictable abdominal pain or discomfort and diarrhea. I tried Lifestyle Changes and overthecounter treatments, but my symptoms keep coming back. It turns out i have Irritable Bowel Syndrome with diarrhea, or ibsd. 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That was like watching the last entire series of twin peeks within five seconds. Hero on the day was the goat in the last play. And that man. Look at him, mika. Hes angry. He kettles for everybody. The other game. Top of the table. Manchester city. Took on the dwellers. Crystal palace. It was ugly. Used and abused a little bit like tom price with the government policy. Now is the pick of the goal. That one up. Look a big one. 87yearold. Manchester. At the table and crystal palace. Somebody stop the hammering. Stop the hammering. Okay. So those are all ad lib, right . Hes going to win it this year. Manchester united. One of three teams is going to win it. Manchester united owned by florida. Manchester city, owned by the emirates, and, of course, chelsea. How about chelsea. Youve got shakes. Glazers. Youve got all the guards. That is the state of british football. Its always liverpool. Always a chance and its the hope as they say that kills you right. It is. Absolutely. 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Its your retirement. Know where you stand. Wouldnt you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that [ bleep ] off the field right now. Out. Hes fired. Hes fired. The nfl has all different types of rules. You cant have stickers on your helmet. You have to have your jerseys tucked in. I think what the president is saying is that the owners should have a rule that players should have to stand in respect for the national anthem. Its not about democrats. Its not about republicans. Its not about free speech. They can do free speech on their own time. This is about respect for the military and the First Responders and the country. So Donald Trumps political career can neatly be summed up by this weekend torrent of inane, offensive and sometimes dangerous tweets that were aimed at nfl, nba and Nuclear North Korea. Stop me if youve seen trump play out this crude politicalville ypolitical vil villen act beforeian act beforl millions marched mind leslie to this battle as they take trumps verbal bait in his john said yesterday. Trump is pav lolovpavlov. We are the dogs. Then march out into indefensible. Whether you love him or hate him, donald trump thrives on this sort of tribalism. His attacks against sports figures are going on while Health Care Reform is hanging in the balance about to die. His treasury and hhs secretaries are mired in scandals regarding corporate jets and oh, yeah, america continues to cream towards a nuclear showdown. This would be as if jfk in his waking hours obsessing about mens tennis during the cuban missile crisis. Justin shanes pointed that out. Who can forget when at the height of the cuban missile crisis, president kennedy was like heres a problem with mens single tennis. We wont make that mistake here. Instead, were going to focus on the commander in chiefs tweet aimed at nuclearized north korea all the while america moves towards most Dangerous Nuclear showdown in 55 years and all the while the president and his party, which is now experiencing record low approval ratings, are struggling once again to try to pass a Health Care Reform bill that will lock 20, maybe 30 million americans off of the health care roles. With that, we have veteran columnist and msnbc contribute terr er. Former democratic congressman harold ford junior and in washington, associate editor for the Washington Post and columnist and editor of the Washington Post eugene robinson. Great group to talk about what matters this morning. Lets do that. Do you want really quickly before we get it lets get a quick round out from yesterday. What was you take on what happened yesterday . I listened to mnuchin and the president. Whatever you think of these men and approach to peaceful protest. They have the right to do it. I find it odd the president can find no good on these young men talk about social injustice and racial inequality. I was pleased to see robert craft, steve tish and other owners stand with their players and make clear were a league that tries to do right by everyone. They have the right to express their feelings. What was you take away from the unfortunate events over this weekend. The i was surprised at the power of the statements by some of the nfl owners. Particularly robert craft who gave President Trump a super bowl ring. Gave 1 million to the campaign. Yes, but you know, to keep it in perspective, he also gave Vladimir Putin a super bowl ring, right . Right. Exactly. Were not sure how Vladimir Putin got that super bowl ring. Right. That will be for another show, but no, he was specifically critical of President Trump and i was frankly surprised at the degree of solidarity that most of the owners, a couple didnt say anything, jerry jones included, expressed with their players. So you know, if the idea President Trump was to play wedge politics here, im not sure exactly where hes driving the wedge. I dont think so its between america and football. There are other issues with football, but i dont think he has driven that wedge. I think football is pretty united. And that was my take away. Mike, one of the more incredible comments that donald trump made over the weekend was that somehow football had become a game for patsys. That somehow the rules had made it too delicate. I stopped watching the nfl years ago for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons was because i knew the people that were playing it were killing themselves, literally killing themselves with every collision. Tom landry told jim his last year 20 years ago, this is not the sport i grew up in. These are young men killing themselves. Aaron hernandez cte scan was in the papers on friday. He had the brain of a man in his mid 60s with all the violent hits hes taken, but the president who encourages violence. I have to tell you i found this weekend for many reasons to be inordinately depressing. You had the odd jux position of this incredible series, ken berns on vietnam, focusing on the events of a war we walked into backwards. Tissue of lies and deception. You have all this going on. A president of the United States today taunting the leader of north korea. Perhaps triggering a mistaken launch of a missile. Then you have the president of the United States in my estimation, this is just my estimation, i want to be clear about that, coming perilously close to race baiting on a friday night in alabama and then through the weekend, majoring in division of this country rather than bringing the country together. He goes to bed one night provoking the leader of north korea. He wakes up the next morning going after professional athletes. Almost all of whom in some sports majority of them africanamerican. This is the United States of america he does not understand the United States. He understands the worst of america. He doesnt understand the best of america. He certainly does understand how to bait people. Whether its race baiting or political baiting or whatever baiting. He knew friday night where this was going to end. And he good exat exactly what h wanted. I tried to stay away from it as much as possible and we dont want to talk about it because the more we talk about it, the more were playing into his hand. If you were baiting people. People tried to start debating me over the weekend, if you do that, you are doing exactly what the president wants you to co. If you yell, if you fight. If you debate. Get impassioned about this stuff. The most go task part is donald trump has now been equated with the American Flag. Protest against the American Flag was yesterday a protest against donald trump. Think about the men and women who fought and gave their all in vietnam, what theyre thinking about that today. Theres a real and serious and passionate debate in this country where the president has some support on layeplayers protesting during the national anthem. That debate, the president has support. When he escalates it to attacking steph curry and impugning people for expressing First Amendment rights. Its not what president s normally do. Leaves the country in a horrible place. Put politics into sports in a way that isnt good for anyone and he does know exactly what hes doing. If youre i mean, the president is put in this country in a horrible place. If you have any question if your mind as to whether or not he is race baiting at a certain point in time, think of charlottesville. It will give you clarity. The president is adding an adjective to his nickname for north Koreas Kim Jongun as the two leaders continue to trade personal insults amid a nuclear showdown. We cant have madmen out there shooting rockets all over the place and by the way, rocket man should have been handled a long time ago. Little rocket man were going to do it. Because we really have no choice. No hes talking about a massive weapon exploding over the ocean. Pacific ocean. Which causes tremendous, tremendous calamity where that plume goes. So goes cancer, so goes tremendous problems. Hes watching us like he never watched anybody before. That i can tell you. That i can tell you. Maybe something gets worked out and maybe it doesnt. Personally, im not sure that it will. Maybe something gets worked out. And maybe it doesnt, but i can tell you one thing, you are protected. Okay. You are protected. Presumably along with the president s threat to totally destroy the country prompted this response from north koreas prime minster. He tried to insult the supreme dignity of my country by referring it to a rocket. By doing so however, he committed an irreversible mistake of making our rockets visit to the entire u. S. Mainland inevitable all the more. And not letting that go without a response, President Trump took to twitter writing, quote, just heard foreign minister of north korea speak at u. N. If he echoes thoughts of little rocket man, they wont be around much longer. Meanwhile, u. S. Military bombers conducted a show of Nuclear Force near north korea on saturday. Stayed in international airspace, but flew the further e est north of the Demilitarized Zone in the 21st century. Tensions keep going up. I suppose this could go worse rhetorically. Where will do we sit monday morning. Its hard for me to imagine the rhetoric getting much nastier than this. We need to remember this is a cultural war. The president is deliberately trying to shame kim jongun, rocket man, now hes little rocket man. At some point you can goad people into action. Perhaps President Trump hopes to goad china into action with his re rhetoric of fire and furry and threat of war. Chinese certainly are doing more than they had. I dont know anybody who is watching this crisis as it heads into really most dangerous phase who doesnt think that this is a time for quiet, a talk, and perhaps quiet action. Not visible to us. Conducting this over the airways as the president has is taking this to a point where people almost have to react. You think of the great mistakes in history, the process that led to world war one. If we were to run this tape back, you know, for historians in the future, they would shake their heads. Hammers john mccain over health care. Republicans look to sweeten the pot for a few certain senators hoping to buy them off. Break down the latest numbers on that critical issue, even though the president would rather us focus on flags and football, but first, heres bill karins with a check on the dire situation in puerto rico. Bill . 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Quote, john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. He campaigned on repeal and replace. Let arizona down. I think we could repeat the line have you no shame, sir. Have you no shame . Again, its john mccain. Have you nomar vels. Struggling. Chuck schumer sold john mccain a bill of goods. Sad, this is our president. Another republican against the registration is senator susan clinics of maine who said yesterday, quote, its very difficult for me to envision a scenario where i would end up voting for the Graham Cassidy bill. Cassidy bill. Add senator lisa of alaska. The new version of the bill would also make it easier for states to get out of coverage regulations including special Health Benefits and while it says Insurance Companies must cover people with preexisting conditions, it would not prohibit them from charging more money. All right. So anyway, overnight, if you keep score at home, theyre trying to bribe lisa mar you and in alaska and trying to bribe Susan Collins from maine. Even after Susan Collins has said this bill does not guarantee that preexisting conditions will be covered in the future. I guess what theyre suggesting and first, insulting. Theyre suggesting that susan ko kohl i understacollins can be b bribed. I think theyre going to be sadly disappointed. We know Susan Collins and weve watched lisa. I would say these two are probably the least likely senators to be able to be bribed by this sort of corn husker kick back that Lindsey Graham himself is driving just a few months ago. Also trouble on the right with ted cruz and mike lee. Hasnt cruz said hes not going to support it. Senators say theyre currently not supporting, but maybe they come in and support. The thing they had going was failure was unimaginable. Its clear senators are perfectly happy not having this vote and seeing what happens next. 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Its unbelievable how Hillary Clinton got away with the email lie, the email scam, the email corruption. We know hillary cant be trusted. Weve learned that with americas security. You take a look at her email situation. Can we trust her with our security . She should have been disqualified for running for president from the first batch of emails. It was a familiar theme for donald trump on the campaign trail. Slamming Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server. You would think when trump was elected he would make certain that no one in his administration did anything remotely close to that, right. Politico reported yesterday while senior white house adviser the president s soninlaw Jared Kushner has been in the white house, hes used private email account to Exchange Messages with other Administration Officials about government business. With us now from washington, White House Reporter josh dau si, broke down the story. Over Administration Officials. About government business. He says hes now forwarded these emails on to government server and all being saved. Raises a lot of questions as you noted in the program because of a sharp attacks that President Trump made on Hillary Clinton for similar practices. What are the unknown facts in our congressional investigators are counsel as far as you know looking into this. We dont know yet and we dont know exactly how many emails. His lawyer has down played this saying fewer than 100 emails from Jared Kushner. We dont know the content of all 100 of those or if their eknock would you sayinnocuous. Do you know know whether or not there are any classified elements in the personal emails sent out by Jared Kushner. Weve been told repeatedly theyre not. His lawyer said to me and other outlets that none of the material is classified or sensitive of nation. Differentiating it from Hillary Clintons server issue last year. Said all we know is we have not seen the emails ourselves. We have not been able to independent confirm. No private server though. Thats what theyre saying. Again. Theres still a lot of questions we and others want to ask. All right. Politico Jared Kushner dawsey, well be following this. Thank you very much. Thank you josh. Joe biden returned to key primary state of South Carolina saturday and ripped President Trump for handling of race relationin relationins relations. Biden said the Civil Rights Group is needed now more than ever. Once again lead to battle to the soul of this nation. A battle i thought was done and won. The giant steps weve taken on recent years in civil rights, Civil Liberties rights are being met by a ferocious pushback. Within of the darkest forces in america. We fought this battle before. Lets be honest, today is different. Today we have a special challenge. Because we have a president who is publicly proclaim ed between nazi and those who oppose. When we have an american president who is emboldened White Supremacists with messages of comfort and support, that this is a moment for this nation to declare that this president can with any clarity, consistency or conviction. Declare there is no place in america for hate groups. Former Vice President also called out donald trump for pardon of controversial sheriff. This is joe bidens second trip to the key early voting state of South Carolina. This year. Lets bring boo the conversation former governor of vermont and former chair at the Democratic National committee. Howard dean. Good to have you back on the show, howard. Thank you. Feels like we should be further down the road than we are. This has been a set back on so many levels with this president. I dont blame joe biden for being maed. I dont either. Im just chuckling because hes in South Carolina. I want to say and you guys covered this, we are talking about whatever donald trump wants to talk about because hes used to taking all t oxygen out of the room. We do need to be talking about puerto rico. They are goio starve to death if we dont get going. These are american citizens. I think the Trump Administrations response to this is disgraceful. Let me just now go to the trump stuff. You know trump is appealing to the worst in us. Thats what trump does. Thats how he got elected and thats how hes governing. The problem is he only really has about 35 of the public supporting him. There was an incredible number today i just saw. Said Something Like only 46 of republicans think Graham Cassidy should pass and 20 of the public thinks its a good idea. The public is getting a lot better informed than when they voted for donald trump. Governor, lets go back to the original topic you raised. Puerto rico. Its an isolated island from the United States. Joe pointed out earlier, texas, florida you go elsewhere. You have an entire country of american citizens some who will be without electricity for months on end. And very good terms in response. Its going to get worse their agricultural has been desolate. I see no evidence the Trump Administration is prepared for any of this. Your point is absolutely right. As awful as houston was and as awful as florida got hit, puerto rico is much much worse. And the Virgin Islands are much much worse as well. Yet, through the weekend, trump is just stirring the pot on football and race and slinging insults at people who dont agree with him on health care. I truly im not sure what people inside the white house are they thinking their boss is okay . This is what i dont think hes at all. Sorry. This is what were talking about when people talk about what donald trump wants to talk about because they cant spare themselves, again, talking about pavlov and the dogs. Howard as you correctly pointed out. We should be talking about north korea. We should all be talking about puerto rico. We should all be talking about the suffering there. The u. S. Virgin islands. Theres so many things we should be talking b about, not Donald Trumps tweets. I totally agree. Governor, what do you think of the Health Care Plan on a bipartisan basis in the senate. What do you think the Democratic Party. I think Alexander Murray, serious minded guy. And pat timurry worked with paul ryan a few years ago to get a budget. These are two serious people that might actually come up with something. There are some things needed. Taking away Health Insurance and getting rid of the ban on preexisting conditions. Certainly not a plan. Get anywhere close to 50 votes. These guys have to run for reelection. What are they thinking. Their own states are going to get completely screwed by this. Taken 2 billion out of louisiana. How do these guys think, if they think at all. There is a possibility if so reminding people on both sides will be allowed to Work Together and alexander is making progress. Howard dean, thank you so much. Mark, first of all, what are the odds. What are the chances republicans are going to get 50 votes this week. Probably less now. Do you stick with that. 12. 287. So we have john mccain is a no. Well, anybody can be rand paul was a no. Is he waivers right now. He might. Anybody can be a no and change the bill and they could be a yes. I dont think theyre going to get john mccain. And the universe of people they might lose is pretty large. I would be i think its more likely theres no vote at all than they pass it. And then the question is what will they do after that. Mike, why do they keep going back to health care . I dont think Mitch Mcconnell wanted to go back to health care this time. Why havent they again picked a unifying topic like tax reform which still would have been difficult, but you would be talking about cutting taxes instead of Cutting Health care benefits and breaking every promise donald trump ever made on the campaign trail about his version of Health Care Reform. I think they made a commitment to themselves to try to overturn obamacare at least 500 times. Theyre up to about 498. Theyre getting close to the cap they put on themselves, but seriously the effort to bribe lisa and susan pathetic. You have two states, alaska and maine. Were going to give you more money for block grants for your states, but the concept of treating, getting access to health care for the rural poor in both states, is colossal. I dont know how you do that stripping out all the essential heal benefits. Up next, Mark Zuckerberg says facebook has shutdown thousands of fake accounts trying to influence the u. S. Election. Was that before or after a direct warning from president obama. Well have a new reporting on that, next on morning joe. Can i get some help. Watch his head. Im so happy. Whatever they went through, they went through together. Welcome guys. Life well planned. See what a Raymond James Financial Advisor can do for you. Grandmas. Aunt stacys. What are the reasons you care for your heart . Qunol coq10 with 3x better absorption has the 1 cardiologist recommended form of coq10 to support heart health. Qunol, the better coq10. A Nations Technology will determine its power. In its economy, in medicine, in science and in national security. One company designs and builds more supercomputers than any other. An american company. Hewlett packard enterprise. Leading the way to discover. To innovate. And to protect. Hewlett packard enterprise. A National Asset in supercomputing. So Mark Zuckerberg. Mauer reens column pointed out that Mark Zuckerberg has an isolated view of raefeality fro his 50 state tour over the past several months. That mark zucke isolated view of reality from his 50 state tour over the past several months. Facebooks role in culture and silicone valley. Increasingly being questioned correctly. You know, newspapers have sort of guidelines and regulations and the fcc controls the air waves to a certain extent, radio to a certain extent, facebook is out there and its a dominant factor in our lives. Maw reen brought up the fact he mocked suggestions thaturine he mocked suggestions that other countries have tried to influence up until six weeks ago. I made this point and it was misunderstood from a few people. I was comparing it to cbs with Walter Cronkite. I dont think Walter Cronkite as popular as he ever was, i dont think he ever got over 50 of americans using him as their primary news source. Im sure maybe 30, 33, 40 or whatever, but facebook gets overall half of americans get their news primary source from facebook. And its a wild wild west. And if they arent if theyre going to allow their company to be used by our enemies across the globe to affect the outcome of democratic elections and therefore impact or democracy, if they cant regulate themselves, somebody else is going to have to. Nobody is ever seeing the global control, the global saturation that facebook has. Nobody has ever seen two sad factors. One you pointed out over 50 of the people in this country receive the bulk of their news from facebook. The lack of editorial control within facebook is shocking. Former president obama reportedly took steps to personally warn facebook ceo Mark Zuckerberg act the spread of fake news in the wake of last years president ial election. According to the Washington Post, mr. Obama raised that red flag to zuckerberg during a gathering of World Leaders in peru and just over a week after the election. The post says that the meeting followed zuckerbergs claim just days after donald trump was elected president that the idea fake news driven by a russian linked operatives on facebook could have a major impact on voting was crazy. For more on this, lets go to New York Stock Exchange and cnbc sara eisen. What else are we learning about this exchange. We learned that apparently in that communication, between zuckerberg and president obama, zuckerbergs response was theres no easy fix to this problem. Of course that coming days after you mentioned zuckerberg himself said the idea of fake news driving voting in the election was crazy. The timing is interesting because now zuckerberg and facebook are singing a completely different tune. Just last thursday zuckerberg came out with a live video admitting that facebook was manipulated and the company would be turned over more than 3,000 politically themed advertisements bought by suspected russian operatives during the election. Basically when did facebook find out about this. How did that communicate with the fbi and does the company have the ability to control what it created. Both in the content and the spread of fake news and in the advertisements and who buys the fake news. You mentioned maurine piece. Theres certainly growing bipartisan backlash towards facebook. This represents a complete change from the obama years. President obama known to be very cozy with the likes of facebook and google. Both companies i would say under a little pressure for the content, politically controversial content and advertising on the site. So far hasnt affected the business or advertising, clearly this is going to be a big issue going forward. I just wanted to finally mention some Market Reaction to the germany elections over the weekend. Germany chancellor secures fourth terms as chancellor expected the Center Holding there, but there was a negative reaction. Thats because the win was by a narrower margin than previous elections. Constant theme of fractures of establishment parties in europe. For instance, the alternative far right party actually got more than 12 of the vote and will have representation in parliament. Which sort of makes this Coalition Government building a little bit trickier and is a trend to watch in europe, even though this year was dominated by a merkel and macron centrist win. Both considered pretty positive for the markets. Thank you very much. Sara is right. If you look at sort of what had always been arrogantly called sort of anglo saxen access of the United States and great britton. You read all these stories five years ago about how the continents adrift and economically theyre not as powerful as the United States and Great Britain. The United States and Great Britain have fallen prey to populism while the center has held. So far. In france, we were worried about france. We were worried about germany. We were worried about all these 2017 elections. The center is held on the continent. It has. If you take a long view of it in the last year, i mean, youve had a wave of nationalism. Slowly creeping across the world. Youve had what happened here in the United States. Donald trump. Youve had brexit and Great Britain. Youve had Marine Le Pen gaining seats for the first time in history. This will continue until centrists in europe start taking the concerns of a lot of people in their country seriously about just the open borders, can come in and Wander Around and move wherever they want to move and its easy for us to criticize from over here in the United States, but this is something that no politicians in the center are talking about, in a meaningful way. Thats why you have the rise of these extreme right parties. Up next, President Trumps head spinning speech in alabama. It lasted nearly an hour and a half. Well boil down the 90 mine sideliner to 59 seconds next on morning joe. Knowing where you stand has never been easier. Except when it comes to retirement. At fidelity, you get a retirement score in just 60 seconds. And well help you make decisions for your plan. To keep you on track. Its your retirement. Know where you stand. Its me . Alright emma, i know its not your favorite but its time for your medicine, okay . You ready . One, two, three. 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We cant have mad men out there shooting rockets all over the place. Rocket man should have been handled a long time ago. You know john mccain came in and went thumbs down at 3 00 in the morning and everybody. That was like really a horrible thing. Honestly. Im here tonight to ask the good people of alabama to send Luther Strange to the United States senate. Thats the tallest human being ive ever seen. Im tall. Im tall. Hes like, should be in the new york knicks. They could use him. He doesnt know Mitch Mcconnell. I might have made a mistake. If luther doesnt win they wont say we picked up 26 points in a short period of time. Hes fired that was our president. Like two hours boiled down to 59 seconds. Youre welcome. Saved you a lot of time. Joining us now republican congressman from ohio. Hes been in congress for four terms and will now being leaving capitol hill to run for governor. It seems like a question, it answers itself. Why are you leaving washington im leaving because my frustration after actually six and a half years, im the type of person in business that to get things done, big things done. Im frustrated with too many of the career politicians that are there. They continue to drive policy based on elections not future generations, and, you know, for me ive learned a lot. I got to tell you. What have you learned . Whats been the big takeaway . Politics gets in the way of every big decision which is a problem. Why done washington work washington done work because too often people are making decisions based on the next election. I learned that in the first year when i got there when we started talking about the next president election, next senate election. We should be talking about getting things accomplished for the American People. Its a frustration for me. You know, off camera talking about youre in the ways and means committee. I asked you about the democrat from massachusetts. You work well with him. And do you pay a penalty among your colleagues youre too close to democrats. Is that epidemic . I started a bipartisan breakfast my first year. We have a bipartisan breakfast first week back. I learn from them, they learn from me. Doesnt mean we agree. At least i understand the direction they want to take. Its funny when you talk on both sides we want to get to the same place, its just how we get there. There are some extremes. Does donald trump make it tougher for republicans running in 2018, every where you go youll be asked what do you think about the president s comment about nfl. What do you think about the president criticizing john mccain who is fighting for his life. In Ohio Republicans love the president. I was a supporter of the president. Democrats dont like the president. We have this mixed bag. In ohio people like the president. Hes stilt a little unfiltered. Thats okay. People a lot of times what they say hes saying what i think and, again, i think thats the issue that republicans are talking about. I just came from a big woolley bear festival in ohio, 100,000 people and thats what i got. Are they fine with him taunting the leader of north korea . I think republicans believe that hes speaking what they are thinking. Thats what i hear all the time. What do you think . You think sometimes the president should not say everything thats on his mind when were in the mid. A nuclear showdown. The president is not a career politician. I always look back where were at today is because we let career politicians take us to this place. So we got to break that system. Now, he may say things a little different from me but i understand why hes doing it. Again why is he taunting the leader not to stick on this. But we were talking about possible nuclear showdown. So, isnt that out of line to be taunting . I think most people i can only tell you what people back in ohio think. They are concerned north korea has gotten as far as its gotten and concerned weve been quiet all these years. In many cases they like the idea remember im coming from Blue Collar Union supporters of President Trump who are saying im happy that hes doing what hes doing. I dont see any fallout in ohio. Theres a big support for this president doing what he said hes going to do. Hes putting the country in danger b goading the leader of north korea. With your background serving in washington is this the right thing to be doing . Think about it. Im thinking about it. Weve been put in danger for the last six, eight, ten years as we let this north korea regime continue down this path. Thats the issue people are concerned about. Now hes talking about it and making sure people realize. Back home people didnt think north korea was as dangerous as it is. I think north korea is a very dangerous situation right now. Thank you very much. Good luck with the indians. Yes. That does it for us this morning. Stephanie ruhle right now. Good morning, im stephanie ruhle. Put your seat belts on. Were about to go for a ride starting with the president going after the nfl and nba. Players and owners locking arms, taking a knee after the president of the United States took his time to say nfl players should be fired if they kneel on the field. Thats a total disrespect of our heritage. Thats a total disrespect of everything that we stand for, okay. A new version of repeal and