Sure that the American People benefit from an effective government, and it would be my job to welcome mr. Trump regardless of what he said about me or my differences with him on my opinions, and escort him over to the capitol in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power. Good morning. It is wednesday, october 19th. Welcome to morning joe. With us on set we have veteran columnist mark barnacle. Wait, wait, wait. Whats going on with you guys . Are you guys asleep . They are. Contributor Mike Barnacle. Chair of the department of africanamerican studies at Princeton University, author of the book democracy is black columnist for time magazine, eddie cloud jr. Are you say verified for him. One, two, three. Verified. Were trying to get fwtwitter t verify eddie. Twitter, verify eddie now. Whats wrong with you . He is so verified. You know why theyre not doing it . Its its they hate you because you are a princeton man. Yeah. That makes sense. It is. They hate you because youre a princeton man. Weve got some battleground polls for you. Theres this Little Christmas club, right . Right . So they said yesterday its now down with trump an8 chance, single digit chance. We dont have it, alex, do we . Not yet . Anyway, lets first of all, talk about the landscape while he is getting i want to read the story. There was a sign at the blue jays game that said theyre down 30. So youre telling me theres a chance. These swing state polls are Washington Postsurvey monkeys, devastating, Mike Barnacle, deep in the heart of texas. A canary flooder coughing in a coal mine. Its not just this poll in texas. Its now three other polls that show a three or four point spread in texas. Democratic strategists have been saying for years that in time texas will be competitive on the electoral map they were expecting that to happen eight years from now. Main 12 years from now. Its happening reason. Its competitive today. Take a look at the new surveymonkey poll of 15 battle grounds conducted with the Washington Post. It Shows Hillary clinton with leads of at least four points in states totaling 304 electoral votes. 34 more than the 270 needed to win the presidency. In fourway matchups clinton has 11 point leads iNew Hampshire and virginia. Eightpoint leads in michigan and new mexico. Seven points in colorado. Six points in North Carolina and pennsylvania, and four points in georgia. While donald trump is ahead by five in iowa, four points in nevada, three points in ohio, and arizona, and just two points in florida and texas, a more extensive poll of texas from the university of houston also shows a tight race there. Trump has add add clinton by 41 to clintons 38 in wisconsin. Another poll puts clinton ahead by eight points. At 3 independent apparently jill stein in nevada clinton has jumped to a seven point lead in the monmouth poll. 47 to 40 . So, Mike Barnacle, you go through all the polls. If if you want three numbers to talk about just how dramatic the polling has gone state by state because yesterday we were throwing showing three swing states that showed the race close, and at least those three swing states, but look at texas, look at georgia, and look at arizona, and any republican nominee struggling with those three states he is down four points right now in georgia, but any republican nominee in late october, going into the last of eight, is in big trouble. Theres another state to throw in there too in terms of the ramifications for the United States senate. Thats nevada where harry reids seat is up, and i think if you are talking to anyone in the business, six months, a year ago, they felt fairly comfortable that a republican would grab that seat from harry reid. It appears now that that is seriously in question. Theres been a swing in the last month. Its ten points since september 13th. Here we go. You know whats happened with the ten points, the republicans problem has distanced himself from the republican nominee. Donald trump. Now he is bleeding out. It is a loselose for a lot of these republican candidates. We saw this. We knew this was going to happen. Clinton gave them the open that donald trump is unlike any republican ive ever he is not he is unlike the republicans ive dealt with in the past, so there was an opening. It gave them space now on the ballot. Now he is like velcro, and some of them cant get away from him. If they distance themselves, theyre done. If theyre connected, theyre done. Wow. We certainly have seen in nevada that in a close race like nevada distancing themselves has certainly hurt. Right. But you have portman, who is doing very well. The Washington Post said marco rubio is in a tighter race than expected. One other bit of news. Some political reports have now moved actually colorado and virginia into the clinton camp safely out of reach which now means Donald Trumps path to 270 has to go through pennsylvania, and that aint happening. Yeah. All of this seems to have shaken Donald Trumps confidence in polls. Remember, he always liked pulled them out of his pocket and would read them to his audiences. They were once a staple of his campaign rallies. Trump did not read the polls to his audiences in colorado yesterday because he says theyre no longer accurate. Even though were doing pretty good in the polls, i dont believe the polls anymore. I dont believe them. I dont believe tlhem, and if theres ten bad, thats the only ones they show. Believe me, were doing great. Now they say were tied in colorado. I dont think so. Ill be honest. I mean, something is going on here. Something. You cant believe anything you see. I dont even believe the polls. I see the polls. Theyre not terrible. Theyre sort of good. Actually, if the people come out and vote, theyre very nervous, i have a feeling this is another brexit. Willy, that is many trump supporters. We have another brexit. If its two, three, four points, maybe its another brexit. If its seven, eight, nine, ten, which has been the trend across this week, theres not that much of a hidden vote anywhere. If you do a back of the envelope map Hillary Clinton has leads of four points or month, so outside the margin of error. In states that add up to 304 electoral votes. Trump states in that same way with 138 electoral votes. Even if he won arizona, ohio, florida, these tossup states that were talking about, he is still based on that map doesnt get to 270. Its hard to see at this point any path for donald trump. There is no path, mike, without a fivepoint swing in the swing states that were looking at yesterday. I guess that leads to the next story, which is the third debate battle or ekwilent to the thriller in manila in to 16 politics. What does donald trump have to do . Can he do anything tonight other than bring Barack Obamas half brother to the debate to pick up five points . Its a good lesson for us all. I remember my First Campaign school. I said whats the number one rule. He said if you have a half brother who is kenyan, always be nice to him. Right . Always preach that, yes . I said two things. I said that, and i said listen, we all have relatives, mr. President. We understand. We understand. We all have relatives. Were praying for you and the family extended family tonight. You know, joe, i shudder to think of what he might do tonight. What would you have him do to pick up five points . I think its going to be a tough night for him. He turns it around with at least four or five points based on the poles yesterday. How does he do it . How would i have him do it . Theres no way in the world he can do this. I would have him talk calmly and confidently about the bulk of his supporters and how much theyve been neglected and forgotten by the establishment in washington, establishment in wall street, but calmly and confidently, but he cannot do that because he has historically over the months of his campaign confused what he sees and hears in the hall in front of him for the country. He has been speaking to a necochamber for over a year, and he gets that adulation from the crowd, and thats all he feels and hears. He doesnt really feel the country. Theyre very big crowds, and for, eddie, the first nine months, ten months, 11 months, 12 months of his campaign, big crowds. Equal big poll results. Equal big victories. As we started saying back in the spring, you got to shift. You go into a general election, those crowds wont win it for you. What would you have donald trump do tonight if you were flying out to las vegas and had his ear and he would listen to you . That would be hilarious. I would actually insist that he hit her on trade, that he hits those he hits the questions that really impact the folks in the midwest america, folks in ohio, people who are struggling. Im sorry. No. Youre getting emotional just thinking about having he is choking up. Time with trump. People who are struggling. Youre struggling right now zbloosh i know. Would you like some water . What i suspect is something you have been tweeting. Beware of the person that has nothing to lose. Oh, yeah. I think he is going to double down on the strategy that we saw in the second debate. Instead of thinking about growing those folks who are supporting him, he is going to come in really hard and well find ourselves in the gutter. Z if he does that, mike barn arkle, and lets be blunt about this, if what were hearing about trump tv is true and if thats what theyre focussing on right now, then your strategy for winning the presidency, which he may think at this point is beyond reach, is far different than your strategy the day after, which is getting a hard core 37 to 40 , even at 35 to 38 group of supporters who are aggrieved and who believe the system is rigged and then selling subscriptions to them for 9. 99 a month to stream trump tv. That seems to be the message right now. Boiling it down to the core. Not apologizing. You know, basically its a no apologies tour. But the question, if if you had Donald Trumps ear, you could have Donald Trumps ear, but his ear is a block. The other day through an odd set of circumstances, dont ask me how please, i hope this story doesnt end up with you and donald trump i spent about three hours with someone who is playing a very significant role in Donald Trumps campaign. I asked this person i said, does trump realize the damage that he is doing to himself and to the process by continually harping on a rigged election and in certain places, you know, the election is going to be rigged, and the response was no, he does not realize it because he is so filled with anger about the potential about the prospect of losing that he cant see beyond that. He is so filled with rage that thats whats fueling his campaign. Really . I must say, i havent picked that up. I picked up a more calculated, more calculated trump. Calculated for beyond the election. For trump tv. More calculated trump that understands that you have your hard core group of 37 , 36 . What is that 40 Million People out there . Doesnt matter. Roger ales since 1996, even before all of these stories came out over the past six months, was never accepted by Polite Society in new york city. People always, always besmirched his character. Even before all of these allegations came out against him. Donald trump, willy, doesnt need to be accepted by Polite Society to make hundreds of millions of dollars on trump tv. Think about how depressing that is for republicans who dont want Hillary Clinton to be president , that they have a candidate who is thinking about his tv network and not becoming president and installing Supreme Court justices. He put out the last couple of days a couple of things that a real president ial campaign would have put out. Ethics reform, and yesterday he talked about congressional term limits, but if you watched his speeches in colorado, his speeches werent about that. His speeches were about the conspiracies now. He said in that clip we just played, you cant believe anything you see. He has the conspirit oral mind, where he wants of everybody to know that if she wins, it wont be fair, and well have to do something about it. Well have to take our country back some other way. If you are donald trump, mika, and you have always said this. He knows how to go in and read a crowd. Yeah. People going to trump rallies do not want his fourpoint plan for judicial reform. They want to hear about how the media is lying to them, about how washington is rigged, and how everything thats happened over the past 30 years has happened because of bad leadership from people like the bushes and the clintons. And they can trust that he is an outsider. He proves that every day. He is an outsider. They want to hear an outsider rail against the system. But to that i think he could run into some problems. Its the third and final president ial debate of the 2016s, and it days place tonight at 9 00 eastern time in las vegas. Its moderated by Chris Wallace of fox news. Now, tonights debate could be more policy focused. The topics will be the National Debt, and entitlements, immigration, and the economy, the Supreme Court, foreign hot spots, and fitness to be president. But it is, once again, personality politics that are grabbing the predebate spotlight. The New York Times reports the Clinton Campaign has requested that the spouses of the candidates proceed directly to their seats and not cross paths. They dont want to shake hands. They didnt want that awkward moment again . This comes after the Trump Campaign attempted to have former president bill clinton come facetoface with women who have accused him of Sexual Assault in the last debate in st. Louis. The Trump Campaign revealed some of its special guests in the debate audience tonight, including, as we mentioned, president obamas half brother malik, and pat smith, who made that tearful speech at the Republican National convention blaming the death of her son, sean, on state Department Communication specialist killed in the benghazi terror attacks. Hillary clintons guests include a prominent supporter, meg whitman and billion aaire invesr mark cuban. Mark cuban must get under trumps skin. He knows how to. Does it feel like a High School Campaign . Its childish. I think it could be a tough night for donald trump. You keep saying that. Why . Because i think theyre going to hone in on policy, and i think he is at his best when he is attacking her. Look, i dont think its the best for this country, but he is at his strongest when he is attacking her the way he was in the last debate and doing what you were saying, which is talking to his people about how they have been left behind. I say his people, a lot of people in this country. I think if you try and double and triple down on policy, it could be a very rough night. Willie, you also looked at the moderator, a guy that you with least likely want to get into a debate off in a dark alley somewhere, and thats Chris Wallace. He is a tough guy. He doesnt put up with b. S. Any more than his father did, and i suspect if there is trouble for trump tonight, it will come from wallace. He is good at this, Chris Wallace is very good at it. Its funny, though, says to see weve seen him all three debates. Here will be the topics for the night. That plan goes out the window the moment trufr sfarts going off. He will listen to a question about immigration or some specific policy and go off and do whatever he is going to do to attack Hillary Clinton. I just wonder, it will be interesting to watch is he serious about winning . In other words, is he going to perform tonight like he wants to expand beyond his core support, or does he bore in the way he did in the last debate, the way he has for the last week and a half since that debate and talk about the things that appeal to the core group or does he really want to expand his base . Its getting late. Were under three weeks now. I also wonder if Chris Wallace addresses the latest email issues pertaining to the emails, you know, that have been revealed in the wikileaks. Oh, yeah. I suspect he will. That could be tough for her. Listen, i think Chris Wallace can be extremely fair. He is going to go after both sides tough. He always does. He is a professional. I tell you, he is so much of a professional that its surprising that a democratic nominee has agreed a debate with fox news as the last debate. Theres only one reason why thats happened, and its because of Chris Wallace. Because they know they can trust Chris Wallace to be fair and down the middle. Still ahead on morning joerks a brief education in latin. What is the definition of quid pro quo . The fbi official in the middle of the controversy goes on record about that and, later, senator mark warner on the race for his battleground state. Ohios republican reacts to Donald Trumps continued claims about a rigged election. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Afoot and lighthearted i take to the open road. Healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. 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In fact, he said he picked up the phone, and kennedy said i need a favor. Then he said, well, we need some help ourselves. Then kennedy told him what favor he needed and the chairman of the house judiciary committee, bob goodlach, called attorney general Loretta Lynch to investigate writing. That will help. Wasnt there a meeting with bill clinton . Yeah. Remember that scene where you had the corrupt cop that comes in at the end as fletch is about to get killed, and chevy chase goes, oh, great rr, the police. He is going to get shot by the police too. Oh, great, the attorney general. Shell clear this up. To barter away American National security interests for plainly political purposes is appalling and may rise to the level of a i dont know about that. Come on. I mean, i dont know about that. I do know, though, that kennedy clearly tried to have a quid pro quo. The fbi agent found out what they wanted, and he said no. Yeah. And there was the attempt, and there was the bargaining. The fbi guy said no, and the fbi said he didnt push, nothing. It was just the end of it. Ill trade you this for that, and it was a no. It was a proposed quid pro quo, and it didnt become the quid pro quo until the fbi said no. I guess you wonder what other ah, whatever. Ah. Just shouldnt have a private server, okay . You just shouldnt have one because thats deceitful, right . Yes. Yes. Its also the core of the biggest weakness of her campaign thus far, private server, because it leads oh, everyone says stop picking on the clintons. Were not. Just get a private server next time. Let me say this right now. Oh, my god. Wikileaks, theyve been putting stuff out. It keeps coming out. Horrible. Its a lot of this stuff if, again, if marco rubio, weve said this before, or jeb bush or so many of these other candidates, we would only be talking about wiki leaks right now, and the are race would, in fact, be over. Hillary clinton might even be in legal trouble after the election, but thats not the case. Shes going to get elected if these polls hold up, and i just i want to say right now weeks before the election that the republican will not only be doing a disservice to the country, but a disservice to themselves. He cant spend the next 40 days investigating and, you know, claiming felonies here. Weve got to stop this as a country. We talked about Supreme Court justices and appointments a couple of days ago. Everybody has got to put their political weapons down. I mean, weve had eight years, maybe longer, actually, but specifically in the last eight years when the wheels of government have been frozen because both sides go at each other in terms of trying to delegitimatize president i would say 16. George w. Bush was called a nazi. Ill go with 16. When are they going to stop doing this and govern . Thats the question. That is. You can see it coming. Like my old torts professors say, you should see this next question coming like a Freight Train out of the mist. We should see this coming, are eddie, that if Hillary Clinton wins, theres going to be one chairman, chairwoman after another on the republican side talking about investigations. If they spend their last two weeks talking about how theyre going to investigate Hillary Clinton, theyre going to help elect a Democratic House and a democratic senate. Thats what theyre going to do because republicans want to see washington work, and they dont want their chairman and chairwomen spending four years investigating other people. They want them working for the people. Yeah. They want them working, and they want to work. They want their lives to fundamentally be transformed. They want to be able to afford college for their kids. They want to be able to retire. I mean, the basic things weve been talking about on this show, right . Then what do you do . You have senator mccain say that theyre probably going to block her Supreme Court nominations. We with already hearing before she even gets elected that the opposition will be as forceful and as strong as it was as barack obama was. Now were saying that helg Hillary Rodham clinton has a 90 chance. Dont start delegitimizing even before trump or clinton are elected president. Just stop it. Thats the political and media world we live in. Exactly. We got to burn somebody to the ground to retain your own credibility, and thats a very bad thing. Maybe we can get some guidance from the opinion page. Those are straight ahead. Morning joe is coming right back. Were talking within a 1 difference in reliability of each other. And, sprint saves you 50 on most Current National carrier rates. Save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. Wouldnt you love more customers . I would definitely love some new customers. Sprint will help you add customers and cut your costs. 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Toipt as i understand a message to every boy and girl and indeed to the entire world that america already is great, but we are great because we are good. I want us to heal our country and bring it together. We have to start getting the economy to work for everyone. Not just those at the top. Making the best Education System from preschool through college, making it affordable because thats, i think, the best way for us to get the future that our children and our grandchildren deserve. My vision of america is an america where everyone has a place. This is the america that i know and love. If we set those goals and we go together, theres nothing that america cant do. That was a look at parts of new ads by both campaigns released ahead of tonights third and final debate in las vegas. Lets talk about that. Those were good ads. Yeah, they were. They really were. You talked about trump hitting on the economic policy. That really should be his closing message, says that 30second ad. Its really helped. If he is going to have a chance, but i dont think he can stay on message, though. That would be the message you would have him follow, though. If he would listen to me. The first 20 minutes where he talked about thats the strongest portion of the campaign, the first 20 minutes where he is in command. He talked about economic anxiety. I think that is the area where she is most vulnerable. He would need to focus laserlike on the very compelling 30second ad. Joining us now from sin city is it nbc news correspondent halle jackson. Joining us also here on set, cofounder jim vandejas. What are you watching for in tonights showdown . I have talked to a couple of the idea that, hey, donald trump doesnt listen p to me, but if he drks i would tell him to focus on the economy, focus on the trade because that is where he landed punches on Hillary Clinton. He was unable to take the resist taking the bait when she dangles it in front of him. I think theres a lot of people who are watching to see can he actually make that change here tonight . Sf he did it on the way to rallies, and he said once he got here to vegas. He is sort of doing his own kind of getting ready. Its very different from what Hillary Clinton is doing, right . Shes got the binders and the podium and sort of the big runthrough. Trump is not doing any of that because he hasnt this entire cycle so far. He is not going to change heading into the last one. As far as gapffs, we are told that he is expected to invite president obamas half brother in the audience. The news of that, by the way, coming to nbc just hours. He will also be bringing someone who blamds Hillary Clinton for the death of her son in benghazi. We expect that will be something that he will try to talk about tonight, but, of course, he will be playing some against given the last couple of weeks that he has had. Think about what has changed . He has some questions to answer for tonight. So halle jackson, says thank you. Jim van dejas. Americas election is giving the world some serious anxiety. Making predictions three weeks before the u. S. Election is risky, but the likeliest bet right now is that the center will hold in american politics, and Hillary Clinton will be elected president. Thats important for a lot of reasons. It could begin to stabilize an unsettled world. Traveling over three continents i have heard widespread anxiety about the state of the world. The u. S. Election on Current Evidence will probably yield a modest consolidation for global order after a period of stress. The good news is the bad news seems less likely than a few years ago, but as november 8th proechds, the world is holding its breath. Whats the most infuriating part, if if you step back, were in so much of a better position. It would much rather be us than china or germ an or england. You wouldnt get that if you are watching this campaign because its all been about despair and dysfunction. Yes, the world will take that as a cue, and everybody will take a big deep breath and say the economy is not going to react poorly to a clinton election. The question is then what . Unless you have to, right . Dont retaliate. If there is a felony or something clear out there, then whether trump wins or clinton wins, of course you have to investigate. Please, we dont need four years of nonstop fishing expeditions. I do think the best outcome for the country is divided government. At least check of Hillary Clintons worst impulses and you dont do in ig that startles the markets or the world. Remember on the investigations question, donald trump at almost every rally has called Hillary Clinton a criminal and his crowds have said lock her up, lock her up. That energy is out there among the grassroots of the Republican Party. Conservatives. Theyre going to be putting pressure on their congressmen or their senators to put the heat on Hillary Clinton. Were in a moment of transition. Whats going to happen after this election . I dont think the center is going to hold. I dont think business as usual will be remain. Something whether its going to be the left pushing Hillary Clinton or whether its going to be root it youre exactly right. The left is going to be pushing. Its going to come from both sides. Business as usual will not obtain. That is an important, important point. If you think about this, everyone thinks, well, just the Republican Party thats been radicalized. The country has been radicalized. Theres not a center. The pressure thats going to be on her and where the power is, go back three or four months. Where is the energy of the Democratic Party . Its on the far left of that party. It gets masked a little bit because of president obama and because of the election. At the moment theres now power. The Democratic Party has it. Where does the money come from. Who is active on social media . Who is active there are parts of the media, one of many things that the Mainstream Media has missed over the past five, six, seven years, everybody was so focused on how conservative the Republican Party had become. They were so obsessed with the tea party that they never attached a name to the progressives that slowly but surely took over even in the senate. You look at the members of the senate today and compare them to 10, 15 years ago, its not even. It is going to its going to make if Hillary Clinton wins, its going to make her life much more difficult because shes going to be pulled from the left and the right. A number of southern democrats are gone. One or two left in the house. Anybody who selfiechz as a new democrat basically a centrist democrat, the ranks have shrunk in it correlation with the Republican Party. Thoor out of lock step with where i think both parties are or where the country is, and i think that that is where so much of the negative governing energy comes from. Yeah. Youve got people that need to learn how to do a deal. They need to learn skeptical. How to meet in the middle. Theres ekwifl ens of both sides being crazy. What we see here is this. The contradiction of a particular economic philosophy are in full view and that were vlg particularly constituencies within the United States who are bringing those contradictions to light and offering a different vision of how the country should take itself how the country should proceed. To the extent you have these competing visions of what the good life looks like, of what flourishing looks like, i think its actually wrongheaded to equate the far right with the far left. Thern bragging about how much more progressive the Democratic Caucus was and you think its a great thing. Absolutely. But if you are Hillary Clinton theyre trying to drag you far left on trade and a lot of other issues. Its not a great thing for her. Its not a great thing for republicans. Its not a great thing for the one thing that you and i agree on, though, is that the economic philosophy that has governed this country over the last few decades is bankrupt. You and i because it has left Middle America behind and those on the margins behind. When she comes and she thinks shes going to govern from that place, the senate, its not going to hold. Etdy, in the last in this hard core progressives and hard core conservatives dont work with each other, what we agree on doesnt matter. Nothing is going to happen. You have eight years of dysfunction. I who say, somebody that worked for president obama early on said the most frustrating thing about him was that every person they had ever worked for started with a position here, and republicans started with a position there. They would fight. They would scratch. They would claw. They would meet in the middle. They would figure out a deal. President obama started over here, and he said im just going to talk and keep talking until i convince them that im right and theyre wrong. Now, anybody thats talked to conservatives in the house, hard core conservatives in the house, they think the same way. I was seen as an out and out nut job. I never sat with republicans. I went and sat down and talked to democrats. Most of my friends were democrats. I figured out how to do deals. Thats why i did deals, you know, whether it was, you know, with harold ford or whether it was, you know, ron delms or even bill clinton on longterm health care. Figured out how to make things Work Together. Thats just not happening now. We have to have people that figure out we would sit in the chamber and talk and we would say, hey, we have to figure out i know we agree on things. We both love america. You know . And we have to see i know we have to see whats impeericly the case. Its coming from hard core progress sifz and hard core conservatives. Whether or not your idea that you just got you have to move to single parent was off the table. There are a whole bunk of progressive that is were disappointed in the way in which he like you. Oh, of course. You know i am, right . And then i should say really quickly, many of us were disturbed when he first got elected that it was all of this postpartisan stuff. He was reaching across the aisle, and they said we have to make him i think my view is when im talking about craziness, im talking about the polarization. Each side is as polarized in the house, and i think democrats would be making a huge mistake if theyre looking at this electorate and saying they want to be antitrade, proregulation, protax increases in a very progressive way. I dont think thats where the country is right now. All right. Certainly not where well continue this conversation. 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Mike barnacle and Princeton Universitys eddie we have legend on the left, verified on the right. He is not verified yet. Hey, twitter, verify eddie. Whats wrong with twitter . They just hate princeton men. Thats right. Joining the table we have im disgusted for you. We have msnbc i went to alabama. They verified me. I mean, come on. By the way, hold on a second. Have you guys figured out how this so you know who he is . Yeah. Good guy. Smart guy. Nerdist . Theyve interviewed i am stumbling around, you know, podcast, and there was an extraordinary interview with Paul Mccartney. I have heard every interview. You ask Paul Mccartney whats it like being famous, you know, its great. Hey, thumbs up. He never gives anything away. These guys an hour and a half. An hour and a half, he it was the most revealing interview. I go, what did you learn . I learned a little bit about just this sounds horrible but the hell, personal, how tough it is being, like, one of the most famous people on the planet. Not being able to over get out of your car and walk a block without 87 people wanting your picture. Even when you disguise yourself. Im trying to figure out what part of me, like, they recognize. When i cover it up . Is it the chin . Is it the he actually talks about it for the first time ive ever heard. Whats the cost of being famous . He talks about at one point i got disgusted at one point early on, and i said i have to make a decision. Am i going to live this life, or am i not going to live this life . If im going to live this life, i need to shut up and live it and deal with it because i have. He talks about the separation, but its just fascinating. He talked about the separation of being that guy up on the poster and being himself and why he doesnt let people take pictures of him on the street. He says ill talk to them for 30 minutes but dont take my picture because then i stop being me and i start being that guy up on the poster. You are stealing from me. Anyway, the most remarkable thing is he has been interviewed i have heard 1,000 interviews of him through the years, and these nerdist dudes, who i never heard of, but you know the guys,ing and then you go, well, how did they get Paul Mccartney, and you listen to all the other people theyve interviewed. Jesus christ, moses, john lennon, who obviously came back on a flying saucer to do an interview with them. I cannot believe. How in the world where everyone has a podcast, how did you stumble upon this . How did you find it . Okay. Im really going into the weeds. Yeah. Lets stop. No, seriously. I got the recording studio, and its i am constantly, you know, digging for im constantly working and trying to figure out. I was looking for pod costs with jeff enright who was the beatles engineer. 1966. Then 1968, 1969. I couldnt find it. Finally i said, screw it, im going to go straight to the source. Then i just searched Paul Mccartney and found an hour and a half interview, and thats, like, for beatle dorks like me, thats like, you know thats like lets do the news now. Thats great. Mike has another followup on this. Lets get to politics. Im interested in this. Sent that fascinating . Chris hardwood calls it the talking dead, the show that comes on after walking dead. He has a great podcast. A new survey monkey poll oh, great. Going back to politics. Can i leave now . I want to talk about mccartney. Hillary clinton with a lead of at least four points in states totaling 304 electoral votes. 34 more needed than the 270 you have to have to win the presidency. In fourway matchups clinton has 11 points lead. In New Hampshire and virginia, eightpoint leads in seven points in colorado. Six points in it North Carolina and pennsylvania. Four points in georgia, while donald trump is ahead by five in iowa, four points in nevada, three points in ohio and arizona. Just two points in florida and texas. A more extensive poll of texas from the university of houston also shows a tight race there. Trump is ahead of clinton by three points. 41 lets just stop right there. Three points in texas. The end is near. Bring down the flag. Whats happening . You know, texas has republicans that have won every statewide office since 1992, and now theres a threepoint spread between Hillary Clinton and donald trump . Whoa. The demographics are changing in this texas, but the Republican Party has done a good job of mitigating and keeping diversifying population in the electorate, and clearly donald trump has fouled that up this year. Chased them away. Its unbelievable. In wisconsin Hillary Clinton up 47 to 38 . I have a question. Barnacle, youre a catholic. You ever heard of st. Norbert . He was a hockey player. Clinton has jumped to a sevenpoint lead in the monmouth poll in nevada. 47 . Thank you, mike, for your contribution. Willie, you did some back of the envelope math, which is actually how we got to our theory of thermonuclear dynamics, which should have won us a nobel prize, and they could find us. They still havent found bob dillon. He is still missing. Cant find him anywhere. We invented an icy hot patch. We did. Put it on your back. And also, i invented postit notes. Classic. Yeah. Actually its in the post parade too. I didnt have to do the back of the envelope map. Hillary clinton, according to this Washington Post poll, has leads of four points or more. Outside the margin of error in states that add up to 304 electoral votes. Donald trump has those same leads in states that add up to 138 electoral votes. Even if he won florida, ohio, arizona, these states that are still in flux, he doesnt get to 270. Its hard to see at least where trumps win comes from. Right now it seems like he is just focussing his anger on how the polls suddenly arent accurate and they dont matter. He is doing these diversion tactics, and thats probably going to be the next couple of weeks as his decline continues unless, you know, say, he has some miraculous gamechanging performance tonight, which i think is highly unlikely by this state in the that phrase, as you were talking about earlier, is anger where, that seems to be the most compelling narrative of his own voice, his own campaign at this stage. Well, and he seems to be really setting the stage for a nasty november after his loss and calling into question the veracity of the american political system, and he is clearly not planning on being a gracious loser, which i hope that he would come around and understand how important it is to the democratic process this idea that when you lose, you concede with grace. Do you look at these numbers . Im thinking about texas and arizona as a longtime lifelong republican, and joe too, and think now about the longterm damage that donald trump may have done just in the last 18 months . If texas is in play Going Forward and arizona becomes a Democratic State in president ial elections, theres really no way forward for a republican candidate, and theres a new arizona poll that just came out. Oh. Oh, boy. Im not even thinking that is a siren. Just not just this election, but Going Forward. I think thats going to be the debate for the party with next cycle, the immediate next cycle. There are going to be conservatives like ted cruz will say we lost because we werent conservative enough. There is still going to be arguments that theres going to be a pool of light voters that the party can use to win, and thats simply just not enough, and its not a sustainable strategy if this party wants to change with america. By the way, im just checking. We just i love, once in a while, getting reviews from the peeps. Dont be on twitter, joe. I this i thats the worst hour of morning joe i have ever seen. Keep your comments coming in because, you know what, its that kind of give and take that makes right here did they offer specifics . I just got a yawn and a bunch of zs, and now, believe it or not, im getting attacked for talking about the nerdist. I tried to give the guys some, like, general population. I just kind of just tip of the hat. I want to help them out. I want to help people out and im getting attacked for that. Who wrote that . That is so mean. Just people out there. Hey, anyway all right. Worst hour yet. You know what, they can never take that away for me. You did something that nobody else did. Hold on a second. Lets go back to the arizona deal. Lets try to do some news. This is news. I want to talk more about the nerdist and Paul Mccartney. They want news. This is niez. Mike barnacle, this is nuds. A fivepoint lead in arizona. Arizona in many ways has been ground zero of the trump immigration message, and he is doing really well there two, three, four weeks ago even. I said really well there. He was comfortably ahead. The latest poll conducted entirely after the second debate has him down five points in arizona. And john mccain seems to be winning handily in arizona, having separated himself from donald trump, unlike in nevada that we talked about earlier where harry reids seat is up, and it appears the republicans are not going to be able to grab harry reids seat. The senate appears to be tilting democratic, the entire senate. Might be democratic. The question now is this going to be a wave election . Is this it always breaks late. Now, its not really late. Its getting there. Is it going to break to such an extent that the house could go democratic . I think theres certainly a possibility. I mean, paul ryan is doing everything that he can to make that differentiation, says and it has been interesting to me going out and doing these focus groups in battleground states over the past two months just how easily republicans have been able to separate themselves from donald trump. It really is a pulling down the down ballot tickets as much as i had expected, and thats simply because donald trump isnt considered a republican by most americans because he is such an anomaly. This year on the political scene. I think thats the one saving grace possibly for republicans in these tough ballots. Mike johns response to you on twitter. Not to you but somebody else about the arizona poll. He said the meltdown is upon us. Just think, we start this week. Its four, five, six points. Maybe seven. Now you are seeing seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. You are seeing swing state polls starting to move Hillary Clintons way. If you have a meltdown over the next two weeks, then, yes, the senate is gone. The house certainly becomes gets into play, which means donald trump will really has to deliver an extraordinary performance tonight or else his candidacy is in deep, deep trouble, and the Republican Party is in deep, deep trouble. You know this from personal experience, having been on the ballot, usually the break occurs. Last weekend. Seven days at the outside. Usually like four or five days prior. The last weekend before they campaign. Right. This is 20 days out. Well, exactly. Thats the point. In 1980 Ronald Reagan and it all broke over the weekend. It was extraordinary. 1994. I had a poll against the democrat i was running against, and poll came back, and i was, like, two points ahead on thursday. 1994. Swing election. I ended up winning 62 to 38 . There was just a massive wave. That happens the last weekend, thats bad enough. If if, as john padora said, the meltdown is upon us now, then this is going to be a two and a half week trail of tears for republicans. And the Clinton Campaign smells blood. Theres a reason we look at that arizona poll that Michelle Obama is going to arizona, that Bernie Sanders is in arizona, that Chelsea Clinton will be there. The clintons saw this a couple of days ago, didnt they . Yeah. They were already in arizona. Yeah, they were already there. Theyre now putting their foot on the gas and hoping to run up the score. I spoke to a latina activist yesterday who has been really involved with voter registration, and theyve registered huge amounts of hispanic voters this season, so i do think the turnout is probably going to be incredible just because donald trump has really galvanized people to go out and vote against his immigration rhetoric. So nor senator Bernie Sanders drew big crowds as he crisscrossed new mexico and arizona campaigning for Hillary Clinton. I am going to do everything that i can to make certain that donald trump does not become the next president of the United States. In three weeks we are going to be having an election of enormous consequence. In my view electing donald trump as president would be a disaster for this country and something we must not do. [ cheering ] in fact, i would suggest that mr. Trump is the least qualified, the least qualified candidate in the history of this country to ever run for president. Well im sorry. I cant help but i still feel bad that were how things happened with him. You mean, the election was rigged against him . Eddie that part. Yeah. Are you sad that the election was rigged against Bernie Sanders . You are making fun of it. I actually think it was. It was rigged. Dont make me they made fun of him. Look what they wrote. The coordination between the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign. Of course, it was rigged. Eddie. Beyond the question of whether it was rigged or not, joe, i do say it was refreshing to hear his voice because, you know, you long for the time when we were actually discussing serious issues where folks were actually putting forward imaginative policy positions to address the situation of americans in this country. But i think he is absolutely right. I mean, donald trump perhaps we would have to check the historical record, but i think he is perhaps one of the worst candidates weve seen run for the president si of the United States, and i think to echo my friend Steve Schmidt, i think he represents a fundamental challenge to the institutions that undergird democracy in the United States. I think well see tonight in the debate whether or not donald trump chooses to double down as main who has nothing to lose, since he has been saying that to the africanamerican community. Hey, what does he have to lose . Will he just double down and speak to his base and look beyond winning the presidency, or will he actually try to speak substantively to the issues that confront the American People . . Im not sure. It was good to hear senator sanders voice, although im not a supporter of Hillary Clinton. You know whats interesting . There was a point in time of january or february earlier this year where the candidacies of Bernie Sanders and donald trump were almost aligned together in terms of their audience, and if donald trump had been a more serious or more disciplined candidate, he could have picked up on some of the threads that Bernie Sanders had out there with the enormous support that Bernie Sanders had, but he didnt have that. I have two tweets in a row here. Oh, no. Now what do we have . Lol, im watching your show from hawaii. Its 1 00 a. M. Here. I think its funny that you are getting attacked for the nerdist. He he, fun times. Worst hour in the history of morning joe. Bon ynie is watching us from athens, greece. We get a thumbs up from her. Yea, bonnie. Somebody said they hope the window behind me is real so i can jump out of it. And oh, twitter is so thats not nice. Bleeding blue says, i love this one bleeding blue georgia, youre likable enough, joe. More mean tweets straight ahead. Also ahead on morning joe oh, we have to show this one right here. Bring it in. Bring it in. Bring it in. The gif of hillary right here saying thats saying this is quoting her. He says, if that window behind scarborough is real, lets hope he turns around and jurmps out f it head first. And shes nodding . Shes nodding, why he. Republican official whos oversee the election across the country try to counter trumps insist ens that the general election is rigged at the ballot box. Ohio secretary of state joins us live. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back with more very mean tweets where. Actually, bob dylan won the nobel prize in literature proving yeah. 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Dont let that go to your head, gary. Whats in your wallet . I dont want to misspeak, but when they talked last debate about creating these safe zones, oh, my gosh, i can see that coming from a National Security briefing, but ive got about six or seven questions that i would want to ask regarding a safe zone and how is that going to actually end up being safe . Me being the skeptic at the table. As a candidate for president , i can assume you asked for those intelligence reports . I have, and i have been denied those security briefings. What was the reason they gave you . Well, im just not relevant really. I mean, thats what it boils down to. 10 doesnt qualify you to receive the national briefings where. I love it. I dont know how he does it. He is not at 10 . Im just not relevant. One of the things that were seeing now and perhaps its one of the reasons why Hillary Clinton is starting to pull ahead. I dont know exactly. A couple of those state poles have showed shes at three now, and he is at one in the state. When he says im just not relevant, it reminds me of that martin short snl sketch of the synchronized swimming. Im not that strong of a swimmer. Libertarian candidate and why he thinks he is not receiving the briefings. Joining us now former mccain senior strategist and msnbc political analyst Steve Schmidt, and writer for the fix at the Washington Post phillip bunk. Phillips latest piece explores whether Hillary Clinton could actually win technical text. Phillip, looks like she could. Why . Whats happening . It does look like she could. Part of is the fact that shes ahead by so much nationally. When she gets ahead that far you know, we saw this huge jump after the conventions. Shes basically back there now. Once you see that, its going to pull a lot of folks to the left. The college of education, thats a demographic at the table for Hillary Clinton. Its a lot of ways in which this is lining up. In texas now its a closer state than pennsylvania or wisconsin. Right . Were also seeing the if the sin is being seen as somebody that launched her campaign attacking hispanics, attacking mexicans and thats what it was perceived as and he will argue about the exact language, but thats what its perceived as. Look, one of the Fastest Growing his tanick vote share states is georgia, and now you look at texas. You look at arizona. You look at the state of utah where the Third Party Candidate of Evan Mcmillan is taking off. All of these red states could turn blue. All of them. Wow. All of them. Which would mean a you agree with that the meltdown is on . It has begun . It has begun and has been on for some time now. Its been on for the 46 minute mark of the first debate. The first debate oefs incoherent and was unprepared. He followed up by tweeting at 3 00, 4 00, 5 00 in the morning at a miss universe, raising concerns about temperament. The friday before the tape came out, were in meltdown. The tapes were obviously bad enough, horrific politically and also, of course, very offensive to americans. Even before then im hearing from inside the campaign they started bleeding out numbers when he started going after miss universe. That is what really started to cause women to flee. Absolutely. Think of skiing. You are going down a mountain. If you stay straight, the steeper the mountain, the faster you go. Thats whats happening now. Were seeing these red states start to turn blue. Its the best system we have, and its the best system in the world, and there is no systemic fraud. There has never ever ever been a candidate for president of the United States who has questioned the legitimacy of how we choose the leaders. It is an attack on the foundations of our democracy. Paul ryan is a constitutional officer. Paul ryan must speak to this. It is time for Republican Leaders to say enough is enough. What you are saying is this is an opportunity for paul ryan. Absolutely. Marco rubio did it yesterday. Marco rubio, to his everlasting credit, the second unprecedented part of this, is you have the active engagement of a hostile foreign power seeking to influence an american president ial election. Unprecedented. Its not without accident that the person Ronald Reagan picked as his ambassador was the great Democratic Party statesman bob strauss. He says the former dnc chairman bob strauss to the soviet union to make the point that the difference of opinion in our country are a source of our strength, not division. So when you are rooting out the Republican Party, rds party, rooting on the engagement of a hostile foreign power into the middle of an election, its unprecedented. Maybe its the threat to democracy that might get people to as appalling as all of these things are, the country is far stronger, but when you aim at the institutions really . Of our democracy, its at a different level. It had to come to that. And i do not mean to mitigate the attacks on disabled people or the racist or the mass ojnist statements. The country transends that. Again, of all the things donald trump has done, says what will it be that takes him down . What will it be that will pose the greatest threat to him . It was, the fat shaming of a miss universe. Again i gra he. Trumps own people will tell you this, that thats where the numbers collapsed among women, and they have to get those women back or it is a rout. Many people pointed as donald trump struggled through the summer to the debates as a moment when he could change the dynamic of the race. Well, he did for the worst. It weent the access hollywood tape. Believe it or not. This started you would think. When Hillary Clinton planted that trap, she said it. She said at the end of the debate, she introduced him as she blurted it out. And trolled donald trump so hard that she got him to go for a week tweeting about her, as steve said, in the middle of the night. He stayed on that for a week, and that gave women across america i talked about it the night after with parents night when i was at parents night, and all the women that were outside going, oh, really . Shes fat . We found out there were interviews lined up and it was very well played. I think to steves point earlier, one of the things were seeing in new polls, new bloomberg poll came out, that men are starting to bail on donald trump as well. White working class even some White Working Class men, yes . Men with College Degrees more. M working class men as well. What were starting to see is its actually particularly College Educated whites that are giving i cant believe they are a little troubling. Theyre not hitting what . What . Are you talking in a hurry again, alex . She doesnt even know. Ive been following because its my team. Shes a huge cubs fan. I would love to get to wrigley. I could work that out for you. Kie get you an invitation. I already have one. Thanks. I think if if donald trump had the discipline to run on a drain the swamp message, he had the policy weve had this discussion for a year and a half. Youre the genius, right . I dont know about that. Donald trump calls you up where, he goes Mike Schmidts brother, what are you doing tonight . I this i that the donald trump that weve seen in the previous two debates is donald trump. Were going to see donald trump. There is no other side to donald trump where. Im asking you that. What should he do he should stay clearly and n unekwificily that its a legitimate one. Its a sign of fitness for office when he does not he should drive a message of change reaching out about how he is going to make middle income raised and how he is going to make their lives better, but what he needs to communicate above all else is a fitness for command to be the commander in chief of the worlds most powerful military and the nuclear arsenal. He has to control his temperament problems, which are obviously massive. I have three quick questions for you. Ready . Whats the overunder on the Electoral College victory for Hillary Clinton . I think she is trending over 400. Trending over 400 . Yes. Democrats take the senate . Yes. Democrats take the house . Close. They could take it . If this election was today, i think theyre down i think republicans are down 25 seats. As of today. With the trend line going in the wrong direction. Poll numbers are not good on the internal numbers. Really for the house . The panic is beginning. Okay. Missiles are flying. 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In the philippines things turned violent after about 1,000 protesters gathered outside the u. S. Embassy demanding to end the u. S. Troops in the country. I have to warn you the video might be a little disturbing to viewers. At least three people were injured after a filipino policeman drove through the crowd running over several protetsers. You may recall philippine president had some harsh words for president obama recently telling him, among other things, to go to hell. A spokeswoman for the u. S. Embassy in manila says that the situation has ended and normal Embassy Operations have continued. Well be following the situation there. Wow. Up next, well talk to the man who oversees ohios elections for his thoughts that donald trump claims large scale voter fraud. Highway morning joe is coming right back. They even want to try and rig the election at the polling booths where so many cities are corrupt, and you see that. And voter fraud is all too common. Then they criticize us for saying that. We have even republicans, oh, thats such a terrible thing to say. Well, take a look at philadelphia whats been going on. Take a look at chicago. Take a look at st. Louis. Take a look at some of these cities. Where you see things happening that are horrendous and if if you talk about them, they say bad things about you. They call you a racist. Using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit. Veggies. And herbs needed to create a popup pickyourown juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows. We have some of the freshest juice in town. See what the power of points can do for your business. Learn more at chase. Com ink i spent many years as a nuclear canmissile launch officer. If the president gave the order, we had to launch the missiles. That would be it. I prayed that call would never come. Self control may be all that keeps these missiles from firing. I would bomb the [ beep ] out of em. I want to be unpredictable. I love war. The thought of donald trump with Nuclear Weapons scares me to death. It should scare everyone. Im Hillary Clinton and i approve this message. [ala m beeping] the highly advanced audi a4. Whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you dont have what it takes to be in this job. Because there are a lot of times when things dont go our way. Or my way. I would advise mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. That was president obama at the white house yesterday. Joining us now secretary of state of ohio, john his Office Receives elections in that crucial battleground zat. Why are you rigging the elections . What are you doing, dude . Well, i try to stay out of the president ial elections as the chief elections officer, but when it travels into my lane and they talk about vote rigging kind of feel like you have to Say Something . Yeah. You know, people have lost faith in their institutions, whether its politics, media, the justice system. Our system is not rigged. We make it easy to vote and hard to cheat in ohio and across the country, and people should have confidence in it. Marco rubio pointed out there are 67 counties in florida. Each county has their own supervisor of elections. I have a good friend who is one up in pensacola. Each one of them run their elections. Is that how you are set up in ohio . Yeah. Very similarly. You know, washington doesnt have anything to do with this. These are local officials. We have 88 county boards of elections. There are two democrats and two republicans on each county board. There are your friends and neighbors that are the poll workers at the polls on election day. When we count the votes at night, thats a public meeting. The media is invited. The public is invited. There are democrats and republicans gathered right there. None of our machines are connected to the internet in any way. They cant they arent at risk of Cyber Security attacks. This system in america and in ohio is more secure than its ever been. We should feel better about the elections process today than wefr have. Mr. Secretary, its willie geist. Can you tell us about the history of ohio how many incidents of voter fraud there have been there . Well, voter fraud exists. We did a survey after the last president ial election. The number of fraud leulent cas was in the hundreds. When we catch people doing that, we prosecute them. People have gone to prison for that in our state. As i say about voter fraud, it exists. Its rare. We are building a better system every day to make sure that it doesnt happen. Its not systemic. Like you have any law, people will break laws. Well catch you. Most of the time that people try to vote fraudulently, the vote is not counted because we catch it before that actually happens. Theres no evidence of systemic fraud of vote rigging, anything of the sort. Mr. Secretary, are you worried that because of trumps heated rhetoric surrounding that the polls might be rigged that people are going to come and disrupt the election day process in ohio . Im not. Im really not. Because of the fact in ohio we see this every four years where the rhetoric heats up from both sides. Democrats and republicans calling into question our elections process. Before the election you hear it all. On election day it works very well. Weve not had any problems in the past. I dont expect any problems. Were transparent, but you have to follow the rules. You have to sign up. We have to know who you are because we have to keep the polling locations secure and follow the rules. I dont expect when we get to election day that well see any disrupgs. If there are complaints, we want to hear about them. If you have any facts or evidence that something is wrong, we want to know about that in advance and whenever you might come across those facts so that we can investigate them and determine whether or not its just a rumor because thats what most of them are. Rumors. And they are not based in fact. Well investigate any claim of voter fraud or voter suppression. We want to make sure that people feel confident in the elections. We have to be open and transparent. Mr. Secretary, you have probably been the loudest critic of donald trump saying that the polling places have been rigged, and you also said you are still going to vote for donald trump. How do you reconcile those two things. You are offended by what he is saying about the electoral process, but you are still willing to cast your vote for him . Well, like most americans, i dont really think much of either president ial candidate. Im not a fan of either, but im a republican, and i believe that donald trump will appoint people to government that will better reflect my views of the world. You have to make a choice. Are you going to try to change the Republican Party from inside the process, or are you going to go outside . Im just one of the im a person that believes in changing the process changing our candidates, changing the future of our party from inside the process, and thats what im going to do this election cycle. All right. Still latest clinton email controversy. The retired fbi official at the center of the quid pro quo allegation tells his side of the story. Morning joe is coming right back. Anyone with type 2 diabetes knows how it feels to see your numbs go up, despite your best efforts. But what if you could turn things around . What if you could. Love your numbers . Discover oncedaily invokana®. Its the 1 prescribed sglt2 inhibitor that works to lower a1c. 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Washington post survey monkey, swing state polls devastating Mike Barnacle and texas deep in the heart of texas. Jump ball. A canary flutters coughing from a coal mine. Jump ball in texas. Hard to believe. Not just this poll in texas. There have been three reputable polls that have shown the same thing, three or fourpoint spread in texas. Democratic strategists have been saying for years that in time texas will be competitive. Yeah. On the electoral map but they were expecting that to happen eight years from now, maybe 12 years from now. Its happening right now. Its competitive. Take a look at the new survey monkey poll of 15 battle grounds conducted with the Washington Post. It Shows Hillary clinton with the lead of at least 4 points in states totaling 304 electoral votes, 34 more than the 270 needed to win the presidency. In fourway matchups clinton has an 11 point lead in New Hampshire and virginia. 8 point leads in michigan and new mexico. 7 points in colorado. 6 points in North Carolina and pennsylvania, 4 points in georgia. While donald trump is ahead by 5 in iowa, 4 points in nevada, 3 points in ohio and arizona and just 2 points in florida and texas. A more extensive poll of texas from the university of houston also shows a tight race there. Trump is ahead of clinton by 3 points, 41 to clintons 38 . In wisconsin a saint nor bert college poll puts clinton ahead by 8 points, 47 to trumps 39 and at 3 green Party Candidate jill stein pulls ahead of gary johnson down 1 . In nevada clinton has jumped to a 7 point lead in the monmouth poll. 47 to 40 . So Mike Barnacle, you go through all the polls. If you want three numbers to talk about just how dramatic the polling has gone state by state because yesterday we were showing three swing states that showed the race close in at least those three swing states. Look at texas, look at georgia, and look at arizona. And any republican nominee struggling with those three states, hes down four points right now in georgia, but any republican nominee in late october going into the last debate is in big trouble. Well, and theres another state to throw in there, too, in terms of the ramifications for the United States. Thats nevada. Where harry reids seat is up. And i think if you were talking to anybody in the business, six months, a year ago they felt fairly comfortable that a republican would grab that seat from harry reid. It appears that is seriously in question. Look at the swing in the last month, too, joe. Its almost 10 points since september 13th. You know whats happening, this underlines, eddie, the problem republicans have. He has distanced himself from republican from the republican nominee, donald trump, and now hes bleeding out. It is a loselose for a lot of these republican candidates. Right. We saw this. We knew this was going to happen, right . Clinton gave them an opening that, you know, donald trump is unlike any republican hes unlike the republicans ive dealt with in the past so there was an opening. That gave them space down ballot. Now hes like velcro, right . Some of them cant get away from it. As a result if they distance themselves, theyre done. If theyre connected to him. Theyre done. If theyre connected too closely, if theyre distanced, weve seen nevada that in a close race like nevada, distancing themselves has certainly hurt. Right. But you have portman whos doing very well. Washington post said marco rubio is in a tighter race. Unexpected. One other bit of news, there are some political reports that have moved actually colorado and virginia into the clinton camp. Out of reach. Safely out of reach which means Donald Trumps path to 270 has to go through pennsylvania and that aint happening. Yeah. So all of this seems to have shaken Donald Trumps confidence in polls. Remember, he always pulled them out of his pocket and read them to his audiences. They were once a staple of his campaign rallies. Trump did not read the polls to his audiences in colorado yesterday because he says theyre no longer accurate. Even though were doing pretty good in the polls, i dont believe the polls anymore. I dont believe them. I dont believe them, and if theres one or two bad ones, thats the only one they show. Believe me, folks, were doing great. Now they say were tied in colorado. I dont think so. Ill be honest. I mean, somethings going on here. Something. You cant believe anything you see. I dont even believe the polls. I see these polls and theyre not terrible. Theyre sort of good. Actually, if the people come out and vote, theyre very nervous. I have a feeling this is another brexit. Willie, that is the hope of many trump supporters. We have another brexit. If its 2, 3, 4 points maybe its another brexit. If its 7, 8, 9, 10, which has been the trend across this week, theres not that much of a hidden bud anywhere. If you do a back of the envelope map on this Washington Post story, Hillary Clinton has leads of 4 points or more outside of the margin of error in states that add up to 304 electoral votes. Trump has 138 electoral votes. Even if he won arizona, ohio, florida, hes still based on that map doesnt get to 270. Its hard to see at this point any path for donald trump. There is no path, mike, without a lets say fivepoint swing in these swing states that were looking at yesterday. And whats that i guess that leads to the next story which is the third debate battle, our equivalent of the thriller in manila in 2016 politics. What does donald trump have to do . Can he do anything tonight other than bring Barack Obamas half brother to the debate to pick up five points . By the way, its a good lesson for us all. I remember my First Campaign school. I said whats the number one rule . They said if you have a half brother whos kenyan, always be nice to him. Youve always prepared that. I said that and i said stop going 90 miles an hour. Listen, we all have relatives, mr. President. We understand. Yeah. We understand. We all have relatives and were prays for you and the extended family. I shudder to think of what he might do tonight. But what would you have him do to pick up five points . I think its going to be a tough night for him. He turns it around with at least four or five points based on the polls yesterday or its a landslide. How does he do it . Well, i would have how would i have him do it . How would you have him do it . Nkts theres no way in the world he would do it. I would have him talk calmly and confidently about the bulk of his supporters and how much theyve been neglected and forgotten by the establishment in washington, the establishment on wall street but calmly and confidently, but he cannot do that. Because he has historically over the months of his campaign confused what he sees and hears in the hall in front of him for the country. Hes been speaking to an echo chamber for over a year. He gets that adulation from the crowd and thats all he hears. Thats all he feels. He doesnt the crowd. He doesnt feel the country. Theyre very big crowds and for, eddie, the first nine months, 10 months, 11 months, 12 months of the campaign, big crowds equal big poll results equal big victories what would you have donald trump do tonight if you were flying out to las vegas and had his ear and he were to listen to you. That would be hilarious obviously. People who are struggling. What i suspect is something in between. Beware of the person who has nothing to lose. Right. I think hes going to double down on the strategy that we saw in the second debate and instead of thinking about growing those folks who are supporting him, hes going to come in really hard. Thats all hes got. Thats all hes got. If he does that, Mike Barnacle, lets be really blunt about this, if he does that and if what were hearing about trump tv is true and if thats what theyre focusing on right now, then your strategy for winning the presidency, which he may think at this point is beyond reach is far different than your strategy the day after, which is getting a hard core 37 to 40 , even a 35 to 38 group of supporters who are aggrieved and who believe the system is rigged and then selling subscriptions to them for 9. 99 a month to stream trump tv. And that seems to be the message right now. Boiling it down to the core. A no apologies tour. What would you do if you had Donald Trumps ear . If his ears are blocked the other day through an odd set of circumstances, dont ask me how please, i hope this story doesnt end up with you and donald trump. No. I spent about three hours with someone who is playing a very significant role in Donald Trumps campaign. I asked this person, i said, does trump realize the damage that he is doing to himself and to the process by continually harping on a rigged election and in certain places, you know, the election is going to be rigged. The response was, no, he does not realize it because he is so filled with anger about the potential about the prospect of losing that he cant see beyond that. Hes so filled with rage that thats whats fueling his campaign. Really . I must say i havent picked that up. I picked up a more calculated more calculated trump. Calculated for beyond the election. For beyond the election. Trump tv. More calculated trump and that understands that you have your hard core group of 37 , 36, what is that, 40 Million People out there . Yeah. Roger ales since 1996, even before all of these stories came out over the past six months, was never accepted by Polite Society in new york city. People always, always besmirched his character even before all of these allegations came out against him. Donald trump, willie, doesnt need to be accepted by Polite Society to make hundreds of millions of dollars on trump tv. Think about how depressing that is though for republicans who dont want Hillary Clinton to be president , that they have a candidate whos thinking about his tv network and not becoming president and installing Supreme Court justices. He put out in the last couple of days a few things that a real president ial campaign would put out. Ethics reform and congressional term limits. If you watched his speeches, his speeches werent about that. His speeches were about the conspiracies now. He said in that clip we just played, quote, you cant believe anything you see. Hes got the conspiratorial mind. He wants everybody to know this is rigged and fixed. If Hillary Clinton wins, it wont be fair. We will have to do something about it. Buy wi we will have to take our country back another way. He knows how to go in, he knows how to read a crowd. People that are going to trump rallies do not want his four point plan for judicial reform. Right. They want to hear about how the media is lying to them, about how washington is rigged and how everything thats happened over the last 30 years from bad leadership from the bushes and clintons. They trust however he does how he does, he does things well. That hes going to figure out how to get through that. Yeah. Well, hes an outsider and he proves that every day. Hes an outsider. They want to hear an outsider whale against the system. Still ahead on morning joe, well go live to las vegas. Mark halpern joins us. Plus, its october 2016. There are still new questions about how the investigation into Hillary Clintons email server was handled. Well get into that. Later, senator mark warner of virginia will join us. First, bill karins with a check on the forecast. Overnight we heard pictures and got information in from los angeles area. New fire started. Red flag warning. The winds are gusting. This is the porter ranch area 30 miles to the northwest of downtown los angeles. Very remote area. Its being fought mostly from the air. You can see one of the helicopters dropping the water. It started as a three acre blaze, quickly up to 100 acres throughout the overnight hours. Conditions are dangerous today. Its going to be in the 90ed. Very windy from san diego northward especially through all the mountainous areas. Lets talk about the other huge story. Anywhere from texas to the east coast its felt like summer. Morning lows have been in the 60s, humidity has been up. Temperatures once again near record highs. Baltimore, philly, new york city, hartford. Mid 80s this time of year and baltimore is relatively unheard of especially with the humidity levels. Southeast were not alone. Little rock, nashville, savannah, all with record highs today. Tomorrow we have one more day of record heat in the southeast. The northeast will be clearing it out. As far as the rest of the forecast goes, any travel concerns out there today and tomorrow it looks like the west is going to stay very hot. L. A. At 93 degrees is not very normal as were going to go throughout the next couple of days. We are going to cool things off tomorrow. We have a rainy forecast setting up for areas of ohio, western pennsylvania and western new york. If you have weekend plans in new england, i know the leaves are at their peak, it looks rainy and it looks windy. Exactly the opposite of what we are hoping for. New york city and times square, this should be our last 80 degree day for a long time. Youre watching morning joe. 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And he took that and it was fine, said mccally. Both the fbi and state say the alleged quid pro quo never happened. In a statement kennedy, who is a Career Foreign Service officer said in part that he wanted to better understand a proposal the fbi had made to upgrade one of former secretary of states emails prior to its public release and that the two matters were not linked. There was no quid pro quo nor was there any bargaining. Hm. Well, there wasnt any bargaining because fbi agents said no. In fact, kennedy said, i need a favor. And then he said, well, we need some help ourselves and then he told him what favor he needed and the fbi agent shut it down. Bob good lock called to investigate. Remember that scene in fletch where you had the corrupt cop that comes in as fletch is about to get killed and chevy chase goes, oh, great, the police. Hes going to get shot by the police. Oh, great, the attorney general, shell clear this up. National security interests for plainly political purposes is appalling and may rise to the level of a i dont know about that. Come on. I mean, i dont know about that. I do know i do know though that kennedy clearly tried to have a quid pro quo. The fbi agent found out what he wanted and they said no. And there was the attempt and there was the bargaining. The fbi guy said no. As willies fbi agent said, he didnt push, nothing, it was the end of it. Ill trade you this for that. He said no. It was a proposed quid pro quo and it only didnt become a quid pro quo because the fbi agent said no. You wonder what other whatever. Shouldnt have a private server, okay . You shouldnt have one. The original sin. Because thats thats deceitful, right . Yes. Yes. Well, its also the core of the biggest weakness of her campaign thus far, the private server. Everyone is saying, no quid pro quo. Stop picking on the clintons. Were not. Just dont get a private server next time. Oh, my god. So wikileaks, theyve been putting stuff out and it keeps coming out. Horrible. And its a lot of this stuff if, again, if marco rubio, weve said this before, or jeb bush or some of these other candidates, wed only be talking about wikileaks and the race would in effect be over and Hillary Clinton might even be in legal trouble after the election but thats not the case and shes going to get elected if those polls hold up. I want to say right now weeks before the election that the republicans will not only be doing a disservice to the country but a disservice to themselves if they Start Talking about felonies and crimes. Absolutely. And investigations. Leave it. Over the next four years. And i will say, if donald trump, who has an outside chance if things turn around, if donald trump wins, i say the same thing to the democrats. You cant spend the next four years investigating and, you know, claiming felonies here. Weve got to stop this as a country. We talked about Supreme Court justices and appointments a couple of days ago. Everybody has got to put their political weapons down. I mean, weve had eight years, maybe longer, actually, but specifically the last eight years where the wheels of government have been frozen because both sides go at each other in terms of trying to delegitimize president obamas presidency. I would say 16. George w. Bush was called a nazi. 16. When are they going to stop doing this and govern. Thats the question. It is. You can see it coming. Like my old torts professor said, you should see this next question coming like a Freight Train out of the mist. We should see this coming, eddie, that if Hillary Clinton wins, theres going to be one chairman, chair woman after another on the republican side talking about investigations and if they spend their last two weeks talking about how theyre going to investigate Hillary Clinton, theyre going to help elect a Democratic House and a democratic senate. Thats what theyre going to do because republicans want to see washington work and they dont want their chair men and chair women spending four years investigating other people, they want them working for the people. Yeah, they want them working and they want to work. They want their lives to fundamentally be transform. They want to be able to afford college for their kids. They want to be able to retire. I mean, the basic things weve been talking about on this show, right . But then what do you do . You have senator mccain say that theyre probably going to block her Supreme Court nominations. Were already hearing before she even gets elected that the opposition will be as forceful and as strong as it was when barack obama was elected. Coming up on morning joe, his fellow senator for virginia is now a candidate for vice president. Well talk with mark warner about whether donald trump has a chance to win his home state as he suddenly pours millions into an ad campaign there. As we go to break, mike pence tours that North Carolina field office that was firebombed and he has some criticism ft. Meade yeah ovmedia over the covf it. Does he have a point . Were back after this. Im here to call attention to an act of terrorism on the Orange County headlines. This has gotten International Media attention and i cant help it. Bring an attack in this county on the other political. No media coverage. It will be significantly different and i think most of the American People know that. Yu dont cook. Youre not a firefighter, if you dont fight fires. Or a coach, if you dont coach. And you cant be our leader, if you dont lead. Our next president needs to take action on Social Security, or future generations could lose up to 10,000 a year. Were working hard, what about you . Hey candidates, do your jobs. Keep Social Security strong. [music] jess hey look, its those guys. Shawn look at those pearly whites, man. [music] bud whoa, cute shawn shutup. Jess are you good to drive . Shawn im fine. [music] [police siren] jess how many did you have . Shawn i should be fine. Jess you should be . Officer sir, go ahead and step out of the vehicle for me. Shawn yes, sir. Bud see ya, buddy. Today, shawns got a hearing, well see how it goes. Good luck so, it turns out buzzed driving and drunk driving, theyre the same thing and it costs around 10,000. So not worth it. This election is not being rigged and let me explain why its not being rigged in florida and why i hope he stops saying that, why he should stop saying that. We have our own elections. There is not a 67 county conspiracy. Seco second, the governor of the state of florida is a republican who appoints the people that run the division of elections. Third, there is no evidence behind any of this. So this should not continue to be said. This is a state that literally has millions of people who came here because they couldnt vote in the nation of their birth. It would be a tragedy if they gave up their vote here as well. Wow. Marco rubio. Marco rubio distancing himself from Donald Trumps claims. Proving, willie, once again that i was right. This morning hes drawing another line in the sand. Right there. Some republicans i like this kid. A lot of emails stolen from Clinton Campaign chair john podesta and being posted online by wikileaks. Senator rubio standing up saying no more. In a statement he said, quote, i will not discuss any issues that have become public solely on the basis of wikileaks. As our intelligence agencies have said, these are an effort to interfere with our electoral process and i will not indulge it. He called that on my part buying low, selling high. He called that his emails are next. Thats whats going on there. Further, i want to warn my fellow republicans who may want to capitalize politically, today it is the democrats, tomorrow it could be us. Amen, brother. You want your email, gone through for decades . No, no. With us now from vegas, managing editor of Bloomberg Politics. Halpern. Look at him. Airs every night at 6 00 p. M. Ferris wheel. Causes fans to go just as crazy as they did when the beatles appeared on the ed sullivan show. Host of the podcast changing the way we look at life, mike murphy. The meltdown, well, its gone in earnest, it seems. Yes. Yeah. You can kind of hear godzilla thumping towards the city in the distance. Boom. Yeah. Everything is shaking every four seconds. Its going to be bad for trump though the polling now, which is far from infallible shows a lot of ticket splitting so were doing better than id expect in the senate races. The president ial thing is looking like a wipeout. You remember, mark halpern, that today is just a snapshot of what today is but you look at trend lines for donald trump and even republicans and right now as of today before the third and final debate it is bleak with trump down 11 in New Hampshire, down 11 in virginia, down 8 in michigan, down 7 in colorado, down 6 in North Carolina, down 6 in pennsylvania, down 4 in georgia and, mark halpern, the one that a lot of people have been talking about for the past 24 hours, texas or as peggy hill says, texas. Its now only plus 2 for trump. Hillary clinton today is more likely to win in a landslide that would not only have an impact on this race but realign the country politically than donald trump is to win narrowly or at all. Hes got the debate tonight. He is now fulfilling the prophecy of mike murphy and others who said this guy would be a 38 candidate and he would bring the parties down, not just in terms of this result but again the image of the party. So do you see any reason that these trend lines dont reverse themselves . Well, theres a couple of things. First of all, the state polls are not as bad. If he wins texas by one vote or five percentage points, he still gets the electoral votes. Reince priebus said they had to run a perfect race in order to win. He has not run a perfect race. I can get him to 265. North carolina is a challenge for him. If he can find a way to win there he can get to 265. That requires running the table. If youre losing nationally by 8, youre not going to win any of the swing states. You look, mike murphy, at the polls, it had North Carolina as a draw. You look at the post survey monkey, down 6. Same thing with nevada, a draw. Basically within the margin of error. You look at the polls yesterday hes down i think 6 in nevada. Hes down. Just depends on which one is right. If hes down if he doesnt win North Carolina, if he doesnt win nevada, lock the door. Yeah. You look at the trend. The country is kind of decided on him. Once that begins, its bad. Now maybe were seeing a bhowho new trump at the debate. I wouldnt bet more than 20 cents on it. I think were going to see a cornered, angry, claws out trump. Mike, youve been warning about the demographic ties unless they change the way they do business. The texas polls are obviously somewhat about trump but theyre also about demographics. Has he just sort of accelerated the problem for republicans in places like arizona . Id like to joke. He takes all the normal republican demography trouble, were only competitive with white voters, and he adds his trump backspin with women and tilts into the minority problems. Heres our problem. You and i, i dont know if youre still a republican or not. I am. When i say that, people go im not a republican anymore. For those of us who are going to remain a republican, our problem is hes built a lab to lose the general election. Unfortunately 2016 he was built in a lab to win the primary. Its important to for us to look at 50 years ago this november is when the south became less solid for democrats, when we started getting White Working Class folks and we started losing black voters in droves. Thats what jeb bush was getting at when he wise cracked that you have to lose the primary now to win the general. The inseptember tifs are opposite. Winning the republican primary becomes step one to blowing the general election. We have to change the mechanics of the republican primary or were not going to see a victory speech in a long, long time in a president ial election. Is this a case of the chickens coming home to roost . Cartoon. It was the reality of our primary this time, 45 of our primary voters getting us to a place where were now on a bender and its bad in the general. In 2018, i hate to be talking about the next election, but 24 months in the off year election when we do better even for our flawed appeal, we have a lot of senate races we can probably win. Were just wounded. Thats the thing, mark halpern. You know, its a tale of two Political Parties. Also a tale well, no, no, its not. Youve got the Republican Party that has more house seats in the u. S. House since 1928. They own the senate. They own 60 of the governors mansions. You have to go back to the 1920s, at this point, pretrump election for the Republican Party to have more power than it has today and yet republicans cant win the presidency. All true and that wont be wiped away completely even if trump completely craters. At the same time, if trump ends up losing badly, hes on the trajectory to lose badly, youre going to see republicans really fight about why that happened, as you said before, youre going to see republicans question the way they nominate someone who won the nomination more easily than anyones won the nomination. Yet if he doesnt win you will see some white hats. The congressional candidates are surprisingly strong in every public and private poll ive seen. If trump doesnt break 40, 42 nationally, youre going to see some could he lateral damage down ballot. Quick prediction, youre going to see a fight in the party for what i call victory delegates. Mike murphy, thank you. That would be good. Up next, the senior senator from virginia. Mark warner joins the table. Ahead at 9 00 a. M. , Trumps Campaign manager Kellyanne Conway joins stephanie rule with a preview of that campaigns debate strategy. Well be right back. Cops and robbers. Yeah. Nachos and karate. Ahh. Not that one so much. 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Is there any feeling among senators that youre tired of not being able to get anything done . Amen. And the challenge will be if we dont put points on the board between january and the august recess, then we will go back into lock down gridlock because of the 18 cycle. I think part of the challenge that president elect clinton is going to have is going to be to partially change the narrative. If we simply come out of the box with preestablished bills that have already been voted down, even the men and women that i work with on the republican side, a lot of folks who want to get out of the box as well, weve got to change the narrative. We have to find a way to say how do we get to yes . Politics is the only business where you can spend your career simply saying no. I love that. How do we get to yes . Willie geist . As somebody whos worked in the private sector and knows how to get things done that way, what would you recommend bringing that expertise to washington . How can we change the dynamic . Because the impression from the outside is that nothing gets done. Maybe thats not totally fair. Some things do get done. How can we change it, practically . Let me give you two examples. I think there is a great appetite, every american knows, our infrastructure is crumbling. There ought to be a way to get to yes to say how do we finance and fund infrastructure. The fact that were not putting out 50 year bonds at these Interest Rates to reinvest in infrastructure, there is a way to get to yes. I have to build broad bipartisan support. Let me give you another one. One of the things that was happening in our economy. 1 3 of the work force is working in some level of independent contractor, parttime jobs. They have no social insurance. If we started to say the social contract that was created in the 30s and 40s has changed, we have to figure out a social contract for where the work force is today, i think thats portable benefits. Thats not a democrat republican issue. Why dont those things get done . Thats my question. Whats impeding that process . The challenge is because weve locked into traditional issues. Theres going to be a fresh start. The great thing about our country, never bet against america. Weve got a fresh start and there will be a window from election to spring, particularly the first ten months of next year when congress has to meet the new administration halfway. Eddie . Whats changing this narrative . What does that look like . If i canni particularly for the most vulnerable. What does that mean . The efforts of what happens in washington is going to affect the lives of the most vulnerable. The truth is right now with the changing nature of work, theres really no insoenttive for any company to invest in anybody thats middle income or lower income. How do you change that . Again, democrat or republican. I actually think Hillary Clinton is going to be willing to meet a congressman willing to put out ideas midway. Thats the optimism. Theyre all in the pessimism. This last debate, this is going to play itself out and there is going to be a fresh start. Thats where weve got to all of us have to come together and say, the country can do this. Mark halpern. Lets talk about a president clinton meeting halfway if its president clip ton, speaker ryan, majority leader schumer, what would you recommend they do for tax reform . I think we have to do tax reform. The world has changed. We have the highest tax rate on the business side in the world. Out of the 34 industrial nations in the world were 31st in terms of tax revenue. I think were going to have to look at a new revenue source, like a carbon tax. People are going to get to the kind of rates we need for businesses to stay competitive in the world. I think, again, particularly from the Business Community side, a real opening to that. So whether where president clinton will come down on that, that will be part of the debate coming forward. What i would hope we wouldnt do with that kind of lineup is to immediately simply bring out bills that have already been litigatesed, people have already had votes and expect just because weve got i think a majority in the senate, a new president clinton, you know, to simply think thats going to change peoples position if we dont change the narrative. Senator mark warner. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys. Almost over. Somewhat hopeful. Almost over. Yeah. Amen. Amen. You werent sugar coating too much there. All right. Up next, define desperation. Hundreds of civilians flee mosul, iraq, to stream into syria. The latest on the assault to take back the city from isis in just a moment. D i would always answer hispanic. So when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. Im everything. Im from all nations. I would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark . Because im everything. 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He spoke exclusively with the Major General in charge of the american effort. Reporter hows it going . Its going well. Reporter in his first interview since the offensive to push isis out of mosul began, Major General gary velesky said his troops are providing air support and heavy artillery but not leading this charge. The iraqis have the momentum, they know it. They want to get there as quickly as they can. Reporter we followed iraqi troops to the front lines south of mosul to see for ourselves. We made our way to the newly liberated village of hud. Shes happy, said a man, pushing his 80yearold grandmother. Shes happy to see the soldiers. But then why were these people carrying white flags and leaving their village . Because iraqi troops in their rush to get to mosul have moved on even though villagers say there are still isis fighters here. And what we saw next was a war planners worst nightmare. Entering the sunni village were shiite militias. In a country thats seen civil war between these two sects of islam, its a dangerous mix, but what happens here could have International Consequences as well. 1yer7 general volesky is afraid in retaliation for losing mosul, they could attack the west. Thats what were worried about from my perspective back at home, when mosul falls, how are they going to try to deflect the attention. Reporter but for now voleskys troops are focusing on the task at hand. This is where the caliphate was born and its here where the general believes will die. No caliphate. Reporter no mosul, no caliphate . Not in iraq clearly. Reporter this battle is beginning and these are just the first of what aid agencies warn could be more than 1 Million People driven from their homes. They suffered under isis, now theyre paying the price for yet another fight for mosul. Nbcs Richard Engel reporting for us there. Well be right back with more morning joe. Start yours with Philips Sonicare, the no. 1 choice of dentists. 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No. No. From the shirtless donny deuts deutsch. No you want to knock over a casino . An election . Not just any election. Do you believe this election could be rigged . The president ial election . This is going to be a 2 1 2 billion dollar president ial campaign. Do you have any idea how impossible it is to rig an election . Millions of people are going to be watching this. Everyones on the lookout. Control the binder, control the moderator. How do we get the binder . Weve got to get to the debate. You guys know how to get into this debate . Donnies got a lot of free time, doesnt he . Oh, my gosh. Rolled up to his apartment. They found him the way he appeared in that shot. Did he have a little duck in the tub with him. I think hes mark halpern, Donny Deutsch in a hot tub, im not so sure. Kind of want to be sick now. We have done a lot of research of what people wanted and we delivered. He was playing the role of ellie gould, i think. Okay. But gould had a robe on as i recall. Yes, yeah. At the very least. Again, first rule in vegas, give the people what they want. There we go. I dont know what people youre talking about, but its not the people that we know. Lets talk about what we learned today. Mark, why dont we start with you in vegas. What a Perfect Place for the third and final debate. Reporter it is. I learned that the republicans are restive and disupp desponde. Willie . Along those lines i learned from Steve Schmidt whos been through a few of these president ial campaigns that the Republican Party is on the brink of an electoral catastrophe, to use his term. Yeah. Mike . I learned that off of the news clip that we showed of Richard Engel that iraq is just and mosul is just a continuing nightmare thats going to be with us for a generation. Eddie . Henry david thoreau, thinking about him. Well now. We have to emerge from this thick fog soon. Goodness gracious. That was eloquent. I learned that this is the first year Princeton University is going to offer a degree in africanamerican studies. Thats fantastic. Excited about that. Joe . Im with mike. We just see the human suffering in syria unparalleled and the fact that, again, the west has done largely nothing about the pain and the agony and the suffering, the unspeakable suffering in places like aleppo. Its just heartbreaking. And i hope whoever is elected president of the United States can actually must jerel together an International Coalition that will actually bring some relief to the victims. That does it for us for now. Stephanie rule picks up the coverage right now live from the debate site in las vegas