There have been questions about my emails, about my emails. I want to address that directly. Im here to give you an update on the fbi investigation of secretary clintons use of a personal email system during her time as secretary of state. I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed. They were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. I thought it would be easier to carry just one device. She also used numerous mobile devices to send and to read email. We went through a thorough process to identify all of my workrelated emails. Lawyers doing the sorting for clinton in 2014 did not read the content of all her emails. It is highly likely their search
missed some workrelated emails. They were immediately captured and preserved. No archiving at all of her emails. That was my obligation and i fully fulfilled it. The lawyers then cleaned their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery. It is possible that hackers gained access. There are no classified emails. 110 emails contained classified information at the time they were sent or received. Im certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material. Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obludpated to protect it. At the time, this didnt seem like an issue. None of these emails should
have been on any eunclunclassif system. Good morning. Its wednesday, july 6th. What just happened . I mean what just happened . I dont get it. I was actually, i was going to write a post for Washington Post two nights ago and titled it, i dont get it because everybody was saying shes not going to be charged. And i read the statutes and looked at all the information and saw the people who have been charged in the past for doing much less than she did and then yesterday morning Jonah Goldburg had a column called i dont get it. This is like a scene out of big. Youre tom hanks and youre looking at this thing. And i dont get it. There are people that have been convicted with no intent for
doing far, far less and their only crime in the end was their last name wasnt clinton, so they didnt walk. Its staggering. And then you look, mika, at whats happened over the past week with the meeting between clinton and lynch. You look at the dangling of the job offer in front of Loretta Lynch and New York Times. You look at them trying to hide the interview on saturday morning on fourth of july weekend and then yesterday coming out saying shes guilty but were not going to charge her with anything. If you read the statutes and Rudy Giuliani is coming on later today, you read them. But it was staggering what we saw yesterday. Shes guilty, but were not going to charge her. With us on set we have former communication director for former george w. Bush nicole
walsh and morning joe why did you come in . Let me just say that yesterday was my birthday. You should be kind to me today. We wont run the u. N. Split screen clip. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Still, the managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and cohosts with all due respect that airs at 6 00 p. M. Mark halperin. Hes in North Carolina because there is an orchestrated event there but athat you cant help to read into. Haez hes in trumpland. And sam stein. Actually, well orchestrated for once. You know, i saw some clinton apologies saying this was a big win for Hillary Clinton. No, pretty rough all the way around yesterday. Well, i disagree with that in the sense that if you are at a fork in the road and a choice here. She gets indicted and she doesnt get indicted or the indictment was recommended, she would almost certainly not be the democratic nominee and certainly not be the next president of the United States. Huge win. She didnt get indicted. I was with the Clinton Campaign yesterday at their event yesterday in charlotte and all of them, the collective sigh of relief, was audible. Now, the New York Times which has covered this quite well one of the pieces yesterday described this as the worst piece, the worst possible piece of good news for Hillary Clinton in the sense that everything is potentially devastating in the sense that republicans can use the things that he said. This raises lots of suspicions you already started to allude to. It also proves, mika, she just didnt tell the truth. From the very beginning. She just we have two candidates running for president of the United States who are completely disconnected from the truth. So, what we have and what we just showed our viewers and we have more. Says that for itself. Its kind of hard to deny. I guess one does it better than the other, in terms of the two candidates. Which is really depressing. And alarming. Yesterday in an unexpected News Conference, or was it . Fbi director james comey said while secretary of state, but not before delivering a critique of Hillary Clintons handling of classified information as secretary of state. Although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the hailing of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their
handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. Seven email chains concerned matter that was contained information of the Access Program at the time they were sent and received. Those chains involve secretary clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters. We also developed evidence that the Security Culture of the state department, in general, and with respect to the use of unclassified systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information that is wbr id wbr4566 found else where in the wbr id wbr4586 u. S. Government. From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret b
at the time they were sent. 36 of those chains contained secret information at the time. And eight contained confidential information at the time. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in secretary clintons position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding with those matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. But their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal wbrid wbr5186 servers, not even supported by fulltime security staff like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government. Or even with the commercial email service like gmail. I think its also important to Say Something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the emails here containing
classified had markings that indicated classified information. But even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. We did not find direct evidence that secretary clintons personal email domain in its various configurations since 2009 was hacked successfully. But given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained acstecess to the private commercial email accounts of whom she was in contact with from her personal account. We also assess that secretary clintons use of a personal email domain was both known by a large wbrid wbr5936 number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside
of the United States including sending and receiving workrelated emails in sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to secretary clintons personal email account. Nicole, this is just brutal on all fronts. On all fronts. He even said that using gmail would have been more secure than what she was using. She said there was no classified information, that was a lie. 110 at least. When she said that nothing was stamped classified. I mean, it goes to what ive seed all along. If you knew or should have known something was classified, the responsibility is on you. Sending emails about a drone warfare, its classified. Where do you go with all of that . Well, how low is the bar, too . Clinton claims refuted by fbi fundings if youre driving the car. No classified info, she says,
not true. Allowed by state. That was a lie. Turned over all work emails. That was a lie. Used a single device, that was a lie. Never breached, highly doubtful. And i understand what youre saying, john, it was a good day because she wasnt indicted, but we spent three hours talking about 61 of americans who are alarmed. If the bar were any lower, buried underground. So, it counted as a good day for her that she wasnt indicted. But what he did yesterday, i watched this live and thought, oh, my god, donald trump might stumble into the oval office. He cemented with those six exhibits what a lot of people worry about with her, which is that she has a horrifically different relationship with the truth. That the clintons dont just think theyre above the law, they function in government as though they are above the law. By the way, they time and time again have proven to be above the law. You can lie under oath before a federal grand jury and youre fine. No, you get disbarred. They disbarred bill clinton, but youre fine. Any of us lie in front of a federal grand jury, we would go to jail. We just would. If any of us mishandled classified information that way, it would not be followed by a but were not going to file charges. We would go to jail. There is a naval reservist last year who just got some information which well tell you about, classified information on a private laptop and took it home to his apartment and had no intent to distribute, arrested, convicted, busted. You had to go, you know, if that was a serious violation in the white house and you had to be retrained on security protocols. I mean, this is handled inside the white house and i would have assumed inside the state department with such seriousness. So, the fact that she did all those things and then lied about it, you know, the old sort of
political adage is the cover up, not the original act that gets you in trouble. Steve, you have something . Some more news. I think there is a couple things to be said. First, to johns point, yes, certainly from the standpoint of the legal disposition, thats good news for the clinton. Number two, nobody, i dont think would say, including secretary clinton, would say shes proud of this or she would do it the same way. Why did she lie the way she did . Lets go back to the u. N. Thing because i think you have taken some things that you can say she lied she lied. You can say she lied. For example, what she said donald trump lies. We say it when he lies. Say it, it will make you feel better. She said stuff later that before this she had misspoken. For example, she said on the march 15th, 2015 press conference, no classified information. Later she said she didnt send
anything that was marked classified. Now you know thats the standard. She knew what was classified. So good try. One final thing. One last thing. One last thing. You have to decide whether youre going to question the integrity of james comey who had an impeachable reputation. Where he said very definitively that there was no bases to prosecute her and no responsible prosecutor would have prosecuted her. Thats not the only thing he said. James comey said anybody else would have gone to jail. Anybody else would have gone to jail. Thats not what james comey said. I dont question his integrity, i question his courage. He lacked the question . You question the courage who rushed to John Ashcrofts bedside to put off the chief of staff to the president of the United States . Yes, i do. Because the fbi last year under
james comey convicted a man who did far, far less. All right, gentlemen, lets look at this from a different perspective. I wonder how hes feeling this morning. All is a big picture equally disturbing because after that litny of violations that he outlined, some might say that you would think he would recommend charges. Nope. That didnt happen. And it seems to cap this investigation, which many feel has the appearances of impropriety from the start. Lets go back to president obama. President obama. The president of the United States speaking out on the case. Who runs the Justice Department. Which is still active. But not the fbi. Comey has a teniary term. In april. Take a look. Hillary clinton was an outstanding secretary of state. She would never intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy. And, what i also know, because i handle a lot of classified
information, is that there is classified and then theres classified. I continue to believe that she has not jeopardized Americas National security. Now, what ive also said is that, and she has acknowledged that theres a carelessness in terms of managing emails that she has owned and she recognizes. But i also think it is important to keep this in perspective. Ive got to say, mika, it was also shocking. We mentioned back in october i think on 60 minutes where he said, in october, while they were investigating. The president of the United States who runs the Justice Department, no evidence. She did it. Nothing to jeopardize National Security. Thats not what comey said yesterday. Here you have the chief Law Enforcement officer of the United States deciding almost a year before the findings come out that there is nothing to see. That is frightening. Flash forward to eight days ago when president bill clinton had a private meeting with attorney general Loretta Lynch on the tarmac in phoenix inside her plane. Lynch says they discussed personal issues like golf and grandkids unrelated to the investigation of secretary clinton. Only it was followed up days later in New York Times which reported that clintons appear to dangle a job in front of the attorney general. Democrats close to mrs. Clinton say she may decide to retain ms. Lynch who took office in april of 2015. This written in the New York Times in the midst of an investigation that could indict Hillary Clinton and end her president ial run and the New York Times doesnt even write at the end of that sentence, mika, currently mrs. Lynch will have a decision on whether to prosecute Hillary Clinton for matters related to her email. And then yesterday fbi director comey said they could not find a case that would support bringing criminal charges as they lack intent. Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. This is not to suggest that in similar circumstances a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions, but thats not what were deciding now. But if intent is the issue. He said there was no intent, so they couldnt charge her. Then what about the case of brian. Less than one year ago a former Naval Reserve commander pled guilty to the unauthorized removal and retention of classified materials. Nearly nine years ago, while stationed in afghanistan, brian
had access to classified briefings and records that could only be retained and viewed on authorized government computers. He caused the materials to be downloaded and stored on his personal, unclassified devices and carried those devices off base and ultimately back to the u. S. Once his deployment ended. Once back home, he copied those materials on to at least one unauthorized and unclassified system. He admitted he handled the classified materials inappropriately and that he destroyed some at home. An fbi search of his home discovered numerous classified materials. The investigation, however, did not reveal evidence that he intended to distribute information to unauthorized personnel. It said they did not find intent. He was ultimately sentenced to two years probation, a 7,500 fine and was ordered to surrender any held security
clearance and to never, again, seek such a clearance. Here you have a naval reservist who took a personal laptop with personal information home, kept it there, never distributed it to anybody and was actually convicted. When the fbi said they found no intent. James comey said yesterday, well, if theres not intent there prosecutors dont file charges. They did a year ago. What do you do when the president said six months ago you have the president of the United States, again, weve gone down this litany of just how horribly this administration has handled this investigation and then youve got the president of the United States going out and trying to cover up the news of the day and there were people actually stupid enough to lead with barack obama and Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail together. Stupid enough to take their bait. Stupid enough to follow what the
white house wanted them to follow. Nothing to see here, move along. The whole thing really is an unfortunate stain on the Obama Administration, is it not . Look at the time the president said what he said, we discussed it at length on the program and either the case that he somehow knew the facts of the investigation or he was saying it with no facts. Seemed like the wrong thing to do at the time and i think that was worn out. He couldnt have possibly known then all the things that comey listed yesterday. Comey did something extraordinary. So youre just saying, youre right. The president just made it up six months ago. Eight months ago. This is what comey said. The president was dead wrong when he went on 60 minutes in the fall saying she didnt jeopardize National Security. Dead wrong and reckless while the fbi agents were investigating this case. An improper thing for the president to do in the midst of
an Ongoing Investigation for which he has to keep some arm length distance. What comey did was extraordinary and in some ways improper. Not the role of the fbi and he convicted her without giving her in some ways in the court of Public Opinion without giving her a chance to respond. I believe now, because he opened the door, well eventually hear from fbi agents who worked on the case and interesting to see if they all agreed on his decision. What do investigators think about this decision and it will be debated quite a bit in the context of the campaign trail and the trump folks are looking at what comey laid out or looking at the discrepancies between what she said and the facts. The fact that they read every email and meticulously handed over all the workrelated ones. I think other people, as comey has extraordinarily weighed in other people with knowledge of the case are on the record and in other ways to weigh in, as
well. Sam stein, could you imagine what a Jeb Bush Campaign or a marco rubio or a Ted Cruz Campaign would do with this opening . They would do a lot with it. Thats quite the opening. Effectively. You know, obviously, as john said, its in the very narrow, narrow political sense, its a very good day for hillary that she wasnt indicted. What james comey did was give fodder for any capable republican who wants to go after clinton. There was clearlessness and mistruth, you could call them lies. I do think mark is right sort of an extraordinary moment. When donald trump lies, we call them lies. Im not being around the bush. She lied. I thought it was extraordinary when james comey got up there. He may have overstepped or been unfair to clinton which is he said he didnt find any evidence of her emails being hacked but
then went on to announce it could have happened. I thought that was a little bit getting over because you shouldnt put out an accusation you couldnt find evidence of and just let it dangle out there. But he suggested she used her account overseas and didnt name the countries. It was careless. I dont think it was fair to say, we found no evidence of it, but it could have happened. I thought that was too much. His point, sam, was about the risks she took as secretary of state with classified information. I thought it was entirely appropriate and the publics right to know the kind of risks that our leaders take with information that they dont have access to. His point was that she used these devices. Thats the only thing im saying, its weird to throw out an accusation. What he said was, john, he said we found no evidence of it, but we wouldnt find evidence of it but its reasonable to believe that. The security that she used was, as you said before, substandard. Not just substandard by
can you believe substandard by gmail. I feel so great about my gmail now. For a long time the phrase when she was using a home brewed server. This poor president of the United States. Comey said yesterday it was kind of a home brewed server. I want to come back to the last political point you made. Could you imagine what a Jeb Bush Campaign a Ted Cruz Campaign would have done with this. What were you leading there . What i was leading to is failure on the Trump Campaign. The failing of the Trump Campaign to have people out on tv, like the jeb team would have had four former attorney generals going out and they would have lacerated different parts of Hillary Clintons campaign. You had donald trump and, yes, he was more effective than usual. But when you dont have people that go out and speak for you and you dont have a campaign
operation, you have moments like this that you dont exploit. Its just like shes being interviewed on saturday morning, the fbi. That the Jeb Bush Team or any other cut an ad. Right. Instead, theyre talking about, is this a star of david or a sheriff star. Theres so much more to get to. Last night the praising of Saddam Hussein. By the way, we want to thank steve raddner for coming on. Happy birthday, steve. Leave with ricearoni the San Francisco treat and a cupcake. Not even a mug . Well get you a morning joe mug, too. I am alarmed. Alarmed. Aalarmed. Alarmed . Still, i am along with 61 of the rest of america. Alarmed by this election. Still ahead on morning joe and alarmed you would come on
a day its just courage. You do have courage. At least somebodys got some. Former mayor and prosecutor rudy jewgiuliani is here on setd Alberto Gonzalez joins the conversation. Duelling rallies in North Carolina. Well hear from donald trump who wasnt exactly a shrinking violet and president obama campaigning with Hillary Clinton with the president ial seal in full view. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Americans are buying more and more of everything online. And so many businesses rely on the United StatesPostal Service to get it there. Because when you ship with us, your business becomes our business. Thats why we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. The United StatesPostal Service. Priority you
my cousins wedding is c ming soon. I like the bride more than the groom. Turquoise dresses. So excited. Did all her exes get invited . No ones got moves like uncle joe. When its go book on choicehotels. Com for instant rewards like gift cards, plus savings of up to 20 . Book direct at choicehotels. Com geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. Everybody can tweet, but nobody actually knows what it takes to do the job until you sat behind the desk. I mean, sasha tweets, but she didnt think that shes thereby should be sitting behind the desk. This is a choice between whether we are going to cling to some imaginary past or whether were going to reach there tfor the f. Given the republicans on the other side dont know what the guy is talking. You ask them, theyre all like, i dont know. And then they kind of duck the other way. Thats the president of the United States who six months ago stepped on an fbi investigation and said, theres nothing to see here, move along and did it again in april. Donald trump out last night. Nicole, you had an interesting reaction to donald trump. I was here yesterday for the breaking News Coverage of the fbi press and the obaobama hill speech. I thought yesterday would be the day when someone on the Trump Campaign could assemble the montage that we did. You dont have to call her crooked hillary, you just show it. So, i had an expectation would be too strong but i had projected my own hopes about what a functioning Trump Campaign might look like. I got home in time to watch this
rally and i turned it on and watched all 66 minutes and i wept. It was really a night where he could have not talked at all and maybe moved up in the polls. He could have not opened his mouth and aired what we aired at the top of the show. I disagree. Are you saying praising Saddam Hussein was a mistake . I think it was a mistake, but a night to focus your message on exhibit a, folks. I have been calling her crooked hillary all along but dont take my word for it. Listen to what james comey said. He could have aired that montage and stayed on a single message. In all seriousness, he could have begun to prosecute the case against her. Its open door, 20 . He is a 20 lead. Im not sure which sound bite we have 67 minutes of the word soup. I understand that i think he used words that connected. I really do. You could wait all 66 minutes for him, maybe. Okay. Here, take a look. Donald trump. All 66 minutes. Today is the best evidence ever that weve seen that our system is absolutely, totally rigged. Its rigged. Our enemies may have a blackmail file on crooked hillary. And this alone means that she should not be allowed to serve as president of the United States. We now know that she lied to the country when she said she did not send classified information on her server. She lied the lives of the American People were put at risk by Hillary Clinton so that she could carry on her corrupt financial dealings. Thats probably why she didnt want people to see what the hell she was doing. She went to extraordinary lengths to carry out an
enronstyle purge of her emails. 33,000 emails are missing and they say, oh, shes fine. Shes fine. So, like a criminal with a guilty conscious. Clinton had her lawyers delete, destroy and wipe away forever, except i still say there are geniuses that can find them. 30,000. Think of this, 30,000 emails. She said today that we may consider the attorney general to go forward. Thats like a bribe, isnt it . Isnt that sort of a bribe . I think its are a bribe. I mean, that if she wins, she is going to consider extending the attorney general and, you know what, im not saying, im not knocking the attorney general. What im saying is, how can you say that . Its a bribe. So mark halperin. He went, of course, 66 minutes
and he did praise Saddam Hussein as a master murderer of terrorists. How do you think the Trump Campaign has handled the past 24 to 48 hours . Well, i agree with what nicolle said and what mika said. His best moments focusing on this were effective. But he did talk for 60 other minutes about other things including Saddam Hussein. You know, theyve got a lot going on. Theyre looking for a running mate and blaming the convention. Yesterday was a moment to take advantage of. They did their best in terms of giving trump some things specific to say and i do think they will work on web videos and perhaps paid media to try to highlight this. You cant miss a moment. Yesterday seemed like the biggest thing in the world. How many more days will the news be dominated by what james comey said. But they do have a chance to revive it and get more focus. They are, they are thinking through the best way to talk about this going forward. But i agree, yesterday was at
least somewhat a missed opportunity. You dont get moments, as mark just said, like that very often where you are given, the ball is teed up on the tee for you. All you have to do is just focus on that ball and knock it out of the park. If, instead, the headlines out of this event. The way most people will see it. Not all 66 minutes. A huge amount of the message got muddied by what will be an incredible focus all day today about donald trump, Saddam Hussein. Saddam hussein tried to kill George Herbert walker bush. We thought he started 9 11. He just took their eye off the ball and it shouldnt be that hard when its sitting there on the tee. Coming up, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee congressman bob goodlot who joins us. What he heard directly from the fbi director yesterday. In a oneonone conversation. Morning joe is back in a moment. We shouldnt have been there and we shouldnt have destabilized. Saddam hussein was a bad guy,
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something that the fbi doesnt usually do. Presents his case against Hillary Clinton and then says there wasnt intent and then we have a case one year ago where the fbi says there is no intent and they actually prosecute a guy. Had public presentation of this case and its findings was unusual. Whether you think that was unusual transparency that helps us no more or unusual and ties people hands at doj where it plays out and its a fair debate. The evidence that he went through was detailed and i think he is saying, he didnt see any bar met for the criminal standard. That doesnt mean these were good practices and doesnt mean it is an issue for voters to assess and more information today than yesterday about all of this. For anyone who is looking at jim comey a longtime career, former prosecutor, former attorney general and a man who stood up to the fbi scanding and going to the hospital and dealing with
ashcroft. A man who i think has some credibility on these issues. A conspiracy here despate hes on a tenyear bulletproof term. I havent seen the evidence come forward of what that conspiracy would be. The final word on the charges is, yes, you could compare this tuther situations. The fbi said they did that and they dont see another fact pattern like this where the issue is unsecured server, which state. Gov also is versus some large conduct. The state Department Server with Hillary Clintons private server. Which he says is less secure than even gmail. As a policy matter it is less secure. I think setting up that server was a bad idea and i think voters should probably factor that in. If were having a conversation about the federal legal requirement, the type of access that you need to get to that server is in their view, similar, what theyre looking for. By the way, people may not like the criminal standard. What theyre looking for under
criminal law some active intent you dont see here. And thats why we had the case a year ago of the naval reservist who the fbi said they had no intent and they still prosecuted him. Mark, let me ask you. What precedent does this set . Paul ryan spoke generally about a bad precedent that was set, but what precedent does this set for the handle of email systems as it pertains to classified documentation. You can never have it and one of the key things that comey said that hasnt been picked up on yet is that he indicated that there were some emails that actually bore classifications markings that indicated the information was classified. That is something that Hillary Clinton and her aides and we cant lose sight of her aides involved in this. Everyone wants to focus on the
presumptive nominees but i think the aides, the senior officials who worked with her are far more at risk and im really interested to see what happens with that. I was going to ask, mark, they still could be at risk, right . I dont think anything from a criminal standpoint. I mean, the odds of the Justice Department going against the fbis recommendations is very slim. But theres administrative penalties that could come about. I mean, i want to see, this is really where the inequities could come about. Its very easy. You could put a square, you know, square tube into a round peg, whatever, however the saying goes. What is the likelihood that cheryl mills doesnt get security clearance in the future . It should be pretty high, should it not . Whether youre cheryl mills or uma abdean or so many of these people who passed National Security secrets through unsecured emails. How do they get security clearances in the future . Based on what fbi director comey said, i think they will have an uphill battle. In over 20 years i have been handling security clearance cases and numerous clients who lost their clearances and federal employment for doing far, far less than what she did here. Far, far less. On capitol hill people lost their security clearances for doing so much less than this. We are told you have to go, but we want to give you the final word. I think the final word here is so much to bait. No matter where you fall on the issue, a public presentation of some of the evidence is useful and thats why some trump folks are saying, great, we can use this and work with this. We talked a lot over decades about the criminalization of our politics. Right. I think the fact that Hillary Clinton and her aides are looking at evidence to that there were a lot of things that should have been done differently and as of yesterday looked like real questions about the policy, secrecy and administrative handling of our
important information. Thats important for voters to assess. Anyone who today is looking at this book of clean health on federal law from the fbi director and wants to go past that, i think now the burden is on those people to show what evidence do they have . I dont think directive comey is on a conspiracy. I didnt say anyone at this table. The criminalization of politics would be the Justice Department deciding to go after and convict bob mcdonald when he didnt violate any virginia statutes. When you actually conduct an investigation that shows that Hillary Clinton and everybody around her actually passed through unsecured servers top secret information. I dont think thats a criminalization of politics. I think thats actually trying to protect Americas National security. Let me briefly respond. Your point number one was agreed by all current eight members of the Supreme Court. I think youre very strong there. On point number two, im not
saying the investigation should not have happened. Im saying the investigation occurr occurred. We live in the rule of law. When the speaker of the house comes out within an hour. You want a specific example and says that the speaker of the house. He knows that this was the wrong outcome. He knows better than the fbi director who is putting out the evidence. That seems to me that hes looking for an outcome that might be politically helpful rather than trying to let this process play out. Theres make sure were on the same planet on her public statements about this, she did not tell the truth, correct . It is clear according to the fbi review of the evidence, her statements, in her view, are not accurate and theyve done the homework on that. We are told now that you have to go off. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for being with us. Go. Mark, thank you. Id love to talk to mark some more. Can we hold mark over . We are going to hold mark over. Mark, if you can stick around, wed love to have you stay. Thank you, ari. Run, run. Coming up he is. Coming up, who do we have . This is going to be good. Everybody who sits in that chair eventually runs away. Well be right back with more morning joe. Your Car Insurance policy is 22 pages long. Did you read every word . No, only lawyers do that. So when you got rearended and needed a tow, your Insurance Company told you to look at page five on your policy. Did it say great news. Youre covered on page five . No. It said,
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of her emails. That was my obligation. I fully fulfilled it. They deleted all emails they did not produce to state and the lawyers clean their devices in such a way as to there were no security breaches. It is possible that hostile actors gained access. There is no classified materials. 110 emails contained classified information at the time they were sent or received. I am certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material. Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. At the time, this didnt seem like an issue. None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. Yeah, mika, thats just
really staggering, including the part where the lawyers intentionally destroyed the devices in such a way that they couldnt be recovered. I just think that and schedules being destroyed. I mean, there is so much going on. I just think that the Clinton Campaign must be hoping this is so complicated that people wont get it. I mean, i dont know what else to think about how everything was orchestrated. But you look but the problem is, you look at mark halperin. I mean, democrats say, oh, the email thing. Doesnt matter, doesnt matter, doesnt matter. And then you look at that line on hawnest and trustworthy and it matters a great deal. I wonder how much that solidifies her honest and trustworthy numbers at like 20 or 25 . Not being indicted, you know, and avoiding that political death sentence is huge. Not being indicted is huge, thank you. But it was, in some ways, one of the worst moments for any
president i president ial candidate i can remember to have the head of the fbi and someone who is widely expected and given his role an improper indictment, but a factual indictment of her judgment and her care with the freedom of information act with National Security, with setting an example for other people in her department and its going to be interesting to see how republicans handle it. Will they bring comey up to the hill that they are talk about. Are they going to find other fbi agents in the department who share his judgment about what happened. But it is now, this is now in the political realm and the clinton people know how to play this game and its going to be interesting to see if the Republican National committee, speaker ryan, others are able to make the case that this is information voters should really factor in as they consider who to pick. So, or, the bar is so low in this election, this is a best moment for a political candidate. Still with us, former treasury official steve ratner. The managing editor of Bloomberg Politics. And attorney mark zaid who spoel specialized National Security law. Msnbc political analyst eleze jordan. Former chair of the National Committee howard dean and msnbc political contributor and editor of the fix at Washington Post chris cilizza. Over her use of a private email server while secretary of state, but not before delivering a critique of Hillary Clintons handling of that classified information while she was in office. Although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their
handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. Wbr id wbr39633 seven email chains concern matters that were classified that top secret special Access Program at the time they were sent and received. Those chains involve secretary clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in secretary clintons position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. But their presence is especially concerning because all of these emails were housed on unclassified personal servers, not even supported by fulltime security staff like those found at agencies and departments of the United States government or even with the commercial email b
service like gmail. I think its also important to Say Something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the emails here containing classified information bore markings that indicated the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. We did not find direct evidence that secretary clintons personal email domain in its various configurations since 2009 was hacked successfully. Give on the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom secretary clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that secretary
clintons use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving workrelated emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it wbrid wbr41003 is possible that hostile actors gained access to secretary clintons personal email account. So, john, the take away from yesterday . Well, again, i said it earlier on the show. New york times the best possible quote. Mark said before, she did not get indicted. For a campaign that has spent a year worried about the possibility of indictment, yesterday, she did not get indicted. The political fallout is significant. Her trustworthy numbers are horrible. They will and have to deal with that for the rest of the campaign. But given the choice between being indicted and not being
indicted it was a sigh of relief from the Clinton Campaign. They will contend with the political fallout. You think about the last week. The benghazi program did and the email probe has now ended. For them, those are the two big legal controversies. They are now gone and now they have to clean up the political mess, which is considerable, given what comey said. Howard dean, after yesterday, how do you clean up that political mess . What is the first step forward . I think you just have to keep doing what you do. She is a Competent Person which differentiates her from donald trump. I think you play to your strong suit. Thats the first thing. The second thing is you can always count on the republicans to ride in and rescue you in a situation like this. For paul ryan to overplay. Its one thing if donald trump says this is a conspiracy. People expect that of donald trump. People dont expect that of paul ryan. If they call director comey to the hill and they give him a hard time, that is really stu d
stupid. They should let the whole thing speak for themself. But the republicans have already started to overplay their hand and i cant wait to see what the next couple of days bring. What do you mean, let it speak for itself. Whats sitting right there . Well, all the things that director comey said, obviously, have an impact. Ive spent some time what do you think was the most statement that comey made about clintons behavior yesterday . We dont exactly know. Ive spoken to the campaign about it no, im just asking you. As you were watching comey. What do you think is the most damming thing comey said about Hillary Clinton yesterday . One of the things that the clinton folks say is, we dont know what email hes talking about. They actually havent seen emails that were marked. Im just asking you as a political pro watching yesterday. Not what the clintons told you
to say. Were you watching joe, excuse me. Joe, the clintons dont tell me what to say and nobody tells me what to say. You brought up the clintons twice. I want to hear from you because we respect you so much and youre a man, youre a man of great character. Im going to ask you, again, very simply. When you were watching the fbi director yesterday, what did you think was the most damming thing he said about Hillary Clinton . I think its too early to tell. I think the best thing as halperin and heillmann has said. Its too early to tell. I think this is just disgraceful. I think this is why American Voters are supporting donald trump because they see the clintons facing no repercussions whatsoever consistently over the run of their political career. And this is millry clinton being simply above the law. No, she is held to a different
standard than the rank and file employee of any department handling classified information. If i had done what Hillary Clinton did, i would be fined, possibly be in jail and definitely have my security clearance strip. Thats an attack on jim comey and i think thats a mistake. Thats her stating the truth. What nicolle said and i said and she said. First, i would say that the comey report was not great. It was bad for hillary. I would say unequivocally the way she handled her emails and the classified information, et s set ru, et cetera was a mistake. Anybody else would be indicted means that youre questioning. She said her security situation. Ill get to the security clearance. Im going to get to the security clearance. Lets start with the fact that you said she would have been indicted. I would never say she would be indicted. You said indicted. But lets just say you didnt say it. The question whether she should have been indicted. To say she should have been indicted you are questioning a career Civil Servant who served i didnt say she should be indicted. So, this is going around in circles. Let me say what i said earlier and anybody else would have been indicted. Lets bring in mark. Mark, you actually represented people that have actually lost security clearances and have been punished for much less than this. We could talk about the naval reservist last year who moved some stuff to a laptop and took it to an apartment and the fbi said he had no intent and he was indicted. What director comey said is true. Most of the case when shethese cases are documented and voluminous amount of it. But, i mean, theres still a lot here that needs to be looked at. And the biggest problem is, we dont know as actually you guys just mentioned, whats in the emails. Even though some of these emails were marked top secret, special Access Programs, i have at least publicly what has been reported is that those dealt with cia drone strikes in pakistan, affxwghanistan area. Any time they consider that to be classified. Mark, lets say i came to you and said, hey, listen, i got a problem. I emailed over a personal account at home, 22 top secret documents and the state Department Says if it were released to the public it would cause devastating impact to Americas National security. You think, do i have anything to worry about . Do you think im going to face charges . What would you say . Youve got a lot to worry about. Youve got a lot to worry about. But, what if i come in today going, you know, Hillary Clinton didnt get indicted, so im
probably not going to get indicted, right . Youre my lawyer. Is this a new standard . Absolutely. You better bet im going to be raising this in cases. We already did so with the petraeus case right after general petraeus worked his very appropriate, but very light sentence two years probation. I invoked it it in a criminal case where we said, look, we want what he got. We did. We got it. No doubt this is going to have a trickle down effect. Absolutely. At least from the administrative standpoint. That well have to wait and see. I want to see what happens if she gets a clearance. If cheryl mills gets a clearance after all of this, then all of your clients in the future have cheryl mills to hide behind. Absolutely. This, paul ryan, this lessens the standard for whats acceptable and whats not acceptable. Chris, what is the political impact of it . Well, best worst day is a
good explainer, i think. The impact is that her honest and trustworthy numbers will stay the same or go down. Theyre not going to get any better. That video that you played, kudos to whoever cut that thing together because the video you played at the beginning of the segment is absolutely brutal. Too long to put in a 30second ad but direct contradiction there. People have to remember, court of law, court of Public Opinion. Court of law, shes okay. John and mark have noted, thats the most important thing because we wouldnt be talking about the political implications if she got indicted yesterday because shed almost certainly have to get out of the race. The fact that she can fight another day is good for her. But in the court of Public Opinion. I mean, yesterday i was watching it and i didnt yell out because im not a crazy person, but i did gasp a few times watching it because things that he says that are directly contrictry to the storey and the narrative that she has told since that press
conference march 10, 2015 at the u. N. This is a person who wants to be the leader of the free world. The best thing she has going for her, shes running against donald trump whose numbers are worse. So, after the, you talk about the video we saw. After that litany of violations that james comey outlined some may have expected a different outcome, maybe a recommendation of charges. But there was none. Which caps this investigation which many feels have had impropriety from the start. Lets go back to president obama speaking out on the case, which is strange in itself. Bizarre. A long time ago in april. Take a look. Do you think it posed a National Security problem . I dont think it posed a National Security problem. I think it is a mistake she acknowledged. Do you agree ewith what president clinton has said and secretary clinton has said that this is not that big a deal . Do you agree with that . Im not going to comment
on you think its not that big a deal . What i think is that it is important for her to answer these questions to the satisfaction of the American People and they can make their own judgment. I can tell you, this is not a situation in which Americas National security was endangered. Hillary clinton was an outstanding secretary of state. She would never intentionally put america in any kind of jeopardy and what i also know because i handle a lot of classified information is that there are, there are classified and then theres classified. That was october and then april. And, by the way, the fbi agents on this case were absolutely outraged. That the president so Flash Forward to eight y days ago when bill clinton had a private meeting with Loretta Lynch on a tarmac in phoenix. He made a point of getting on
her plane to talk to her. They talked unrelated to the investigation, only it was followed up days later in New York Times which reported that the clintons appeared to dangle a job in front of the attorney general. Democrats close to mrs. Clinton say she may decide to retain ms. Lynch, who took office in april of 2015. John heillmann. By the way, written in New York Times without comment that the clintons are dangling a job offer in front of a woman that has the power to indict her and in her president ial campaign. I have to say that i, the thought, the thing that bill clinton did with Loretta Lynch was ridiculous and brought all kind of political problems on his wife and you kind of want to write it off. Not write it off in the sense that its not bad. You cant control bill clinton. This thing in New York Times coming directly after that in what appears to be a choreogr h
choreographed way. They decided to leak through cutouts that lynch might be retained in the administration. Just makes the whole thing stink. And it makes the whole thing stink and just provides, again, such fodder to trumps arguments about this is just a rigged system. Its a corrupt elite, a corrupt establishment. This whole thing is just rotten to the core. Just self lacerating that they engage in this behavior. So compress it all for like five days you got the meeting with bill clinton and Loretta Lynch and the New York Times dangling the job and secret meeting with the fbi. On a saturday morning. I dont think the Clinton Campaign was it just happened to be on a saturday morning july fourth weekend. Just happens to be. Then as the news breaks there is no charges. No charges. But the president is live at
5 00 p. M. In North Carolina with Hillary Clinton flying down on air force one with stuff on the news cycle. Are you kidding me . Im sorry. Are we just stupstupid . It is a different standard and the American People arent stupid. They get it. They see plain and simple that the clintons are held to a different standard and that is why trump has managed to rise so much over this past year and nonpolitician because people are sick and tired. Also bernie sanders. And bernie sanders. Being held to a different standard. We got that. Lets just separate this into a couple pieces. So, the meeting on the plane, mistake. The leaking or whatever that statement about maybe retaining Loretta Lynch, mistake. Horrific. How about the private server, mistake. Are we seriously when james comey said he did not create the timing or the content, are we saying that hes a liar . Somehow they knew he was going
to come out monday at 3 00 . Do you think the president knew . He said he didnt speak to anybody about it. Then it must be true. No mika, mika, mika. What are we supposed to do . It is in the newspaper for three days beforehand that the fbi has leaked that shes not going to be indicted. You dont think the timing of the press conference isnt leaked, as well . If theyre leaking, shes not going to be indicted. The fbi was leaking. Oh, shes not going to be indicted. People close to the investigation said shes not going to be indicted. You dont think barack obama knew he was going yesterday . I dont know if barack obama knew. Nobody seemed to think that comey was coming out on tuesday morning. What are you telling me . Im trying to separate mistakes that clintons made and there were many. Maybe they havent yet, maybe they will. From the fact that all of you guys or several of you, anyway, are questioning the integrity of
james comey who until this moment. Joe is certainly questioning. Mika, please, let me repeat again for the 15th time. Im not questioning his integrity, im questioning his courage. He just didnt want to take down its kind of like john roberts didnt want to be responsible for taking down the Affordable Care act. He didnt want that on his court. James comey didnt want to take down a democratic nominee. If Hillary Clinton deserved to be indicted and james comey lacked the courage to indict her, that means he lacks integrity. Mark halperin. Prosecutorial discretion. It may be courage, it may be judgment. What he did, though, was extraordinary. He oepthened door here. The notion of the fbi director. Not a prosecutor. Even if he were. Youre not supposed to come out without an indictment. She cant rebut them and i decided shes not going to be indicted. I agree with mika. You cant look at the timing of the series of events and our role as journalists is to question people in government. Doesnt mean were questioning their integrity. How could these things be a coincidence from the meeting to the saturday interview to the comey decision to the day president obama awas campaigning with her. Theres just too much coordination. And i dont question comeys integrity. But his decision to do what he did when he did it and come out and claim, i think there needs to be transparency and accountability. He answered no questions from the press. He decided what evidence he was going to cite. I can see the clinton people being furious at that and i can also see republicans are furious for the judgment you reach. Needs to be Real Transparency and accountability for something important. David ignatius has been reporting for three months now that the fbi has said there is a higher standard for somebody running for president of the United States. The fbi has been reporting that to david ignatius. Yesterday howard dean at least i believe without questioning james comeys integrity, i believe we saw that higher standard in place because like Justice Roberts, chief Justice Roberts who said, you know what, you want to get rid of obama care and you do it at the voting booth, were not going to do your job for you. I think we saw that play out yesterday with comey who said, yes, sir, different standards for naval reservist versus somebody running for president of the United States. What comey did in the ashcroft case where he blocked the Vice President of the United States from trying to do something that was illegal took enormous political courage. I think to indict james comeyscouracomey comeyscourage is a big mace take and is wrong. He came out with a recommendation not to prosecute because i dont believe law
enforcement does. Law enforcement, in general, not just the fbi, makes recommendations to prosecutors about how good the case is. Comey clearly said this case, there is no intent in this case. Therefore, we dont think its prosecutable. Thats what he said. And i am with steve. I think you guys are making the same mistake the republicans are likely to make. Which is, if you indict comeys integrity, then you are making a big mistake. Because that is we didnt. You just said look at the bird. Nobody on this set said that james comeys integrity is in jeopardy. We never said that. We are surprised on a number of levels. There are different standards. Thats a look at the bird. Dont look at the problem. I think we said now four times there is a case last year that the fbi convicted a guy where they said there was no intent. If you say that the reason she didnt get indicted is
because theres different standards then you are saying, again, james comey in his statement did not tell the truth. In his statement he said that when you compare this to other cases, he could not find the grounds to prosecute. Not that there was a different standard. But specifically in the statement when it came to no intent, he was wrong. There is a 2015 case. One year old where the fbi said in their own press release, there was no intent. And they convicted the naval reservist anyway. Weve got to go because its 27 after the hour. And this was supposed to last 13 i gave him the last word. Im fine. He did, alex. He had 12 last words. Howard dean, thank you so much. We always love having you. Mark zaid, we appreciate you joining us and staying with us. Still ahead on morning joe Bob Goodlatte joins us from capitol hill and well ask chairman of the Judiciary Committee about his phone call
with the fbi director and also former new york mayor rudy jewel yawn giuliani will be here and, of course, if youre asking if they asked any of Hillary Clinton supporters to come on and speak this morning, the answer to that is, yes, of course we did. And, of course steves here. That is the only one that would show up. Howards here. Andrea mitchell and chuck todd are straight ahead. Cant wait for their take. Cally . You should be getting double miles on every purchase switch. To the capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. Not just. dismissively rline purchases. Seriously. Double miles. Everywhere. Whats in your wallet . Bounce back like. D. It used to . Neutrogena® hydro boost water gel. Instantly quenches skin to keep it. Supple and hydrated. Day. After day. With hydrating hyaluronic acid, which retains up to 1000 times its weight. In water. This refreshing water gel. Plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. For supple, hydrated skin that bounces back. Hydro boost. From neutrogena®. See whats possible. Dont you dare follow your dreams. Think big. Dont you dare leave it all behind. Or demand your own space. Dont you dare ask whats next. Introducing the firstever cadillac xt5. Were talking about Something Else. Good to see you guys back here on morning joe. We were just having the most fascinating conversation. We usually try to have the most fascinating conversations when were not on the air. And because i think nicolle may have said, or maybe it was steve. We have may have two president ial candidates who under normal circumstances would not be able to get security clearances. Paul probably would not under normal circumstances be able to get security clearances. Donald trump. Wed have to see his tax returns before we could find out. People in the Obama Administration have been saying for some time they dont think that donald trump, if he released his tax returns, would be able to get National Security. By the way, i looked this up, though, the two nominees get it no matter what. They dont have to go through a security check. Now, the aid they bring in does have to go through the background check. We did research it. The two nominees, no. They do not have to go through any background check. They may be by themselves because i dont think paul lonnie went in with romney. How fascinating. On hillarys side. Uma, i doubt shell ever get another National Security clearance again. Thats what were talking about. All the staffers that are related are the ones that are going to have a hard time. Armed services. Its tough. Remember, all those emails were sent to and from unclassified computers. Its not possible within the state Department Email system to send a classified email from a classified system to unclassified system. Everyone who is on the other side of those emails was operating from an unclassified system. And made that decision. Today some members of the Republican Party are demanding answers from fbi director james comey. Joining us from capitol hill, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee republican congressman Bob Goodlatte of virginia. He personally raised concerns with the fbi chief during a conversation yesterday. Sir, can you tell us a little bit more about that conversation . Well, good morning, mika and joe. Yes, the fbi director actually reached out to me right after the announcement that he made because he wanted to assure me that he hadnt called me in advance of the announcement or the attorney general because he didnt think it appropriate to
disclose what he was going to announce to anyone ahead of time. I said i completely understood that but i didnt understand at all what he had announced and i had a number of questions, which i supposed to him on the call. He said those were very important questions and he hoped to be able to answer them soon. But he didnt answer them on the call. I then reduced them to writing and sent the letter to him yesterday afternoon that is available to you and everyone else asking him if he found her to have likely violated the statute and its clear that she did. And, he found that no prosecutor would prosecute her. Why was it that during this admed administration seven people have been prosecuted under similar circumstances. Some very close circumstances. Chief petty officer lyle white was convicted of removing documents from his military office and taking them home. Classified documents. He pled guilty under charges
under this very statute was sentenced to 60 days in jail and a 10,000 fine, both of which were suspended in recognition of his guilty plea. So, what where do you go from there . Where do you go from there . The naval reservist last year without intent who also was convicted. Did he have any reasoning for you as to why charges were not brought . No. He responded to my long series of questions which you can see in the threepage letter that we sent to him subsequently. Those were very important questions. Deserving of a response and he hoped to be able to respond soon. But he did not offer responses yesterday. So, we are continuing to demand those responses. We also have scheduled and its been scheduled for quite some time attorney general loretta
lynch appearing before the Judiciary Committee next week and, obviously, most of these questions will be posed to her, as well, because she does not have to take his recommendation thatted there there would be no prosecution. She already said she would take that recommendation. In and of itself it is not unheard of, but unusual for a prosecutor to say theyre going to take the fbis advice when they have that discretion themselves. Unusual for the fbi director to say that no prosecutor would take this case. So, it just doesnt smell right that he would pose it to them in a way that gives them a complete off the hook. It should be a fascinating hearing next week and, of course, the attorney general also backed off that saying that actually she reserved the right to not defer to the fbi director. She made several statements last
week. Confusing. Congressman, thank you so much for being with us. We look forward to that hearing and hope to be able to talk to you then. Lets bring in from Atlantic City, new jersey, host of Andrea Mitchell reports Andrea Mitchell. Chuck todd is here, as well. Chuck, sort through yesterday for us, if you can. How do you . In some ways its it was an unbelievable day. It is, im sort of stunned at how badly Donald Trumps botchi botching to me what is a gift. Bringing up Saddam Hussein. Not on that day. Maybe tomorrow. A tad off. Maybe tomorrow praising Saddam Hussein is a good idea. But maybe yesterday i would have held off. To be fair, he did make the point. But ive said this, too. He wrapped it up in 60 other minutes of stuff. Sort of attacking comey and i dont get the strategy of attacking comey here. Comey is not the person you should be attacking here politically. Comey you should be embracing and quoting. By the way, do you know what every other president ial candidate running against Hillary Clinton would already have on the air . Excerpts of comey. You would not push back on the lack of indictment but cite all the other things he indicted her judgment and politically and in some ways, her qualifications to hold National Security secrets. He said theres no legal standards. He gave her a political indictment that under any other circumstances he would say this candidacy is in big trouble but because of donald trump its like, yeah, maybe she can whether the storm. The former boss of all of ours who Mark Barnacle has suggested has gone way, way, right. Jack welch tweeted yesterday after comeys announcement, this
is the best possible news for republicans because, if she had been indicted, she would have been out of the race and any other democrat like joe biden would have won big. Instead, she will be wounded. She will be wounded by comeys words all the way to election day. Well, not surprisingly, you know, jack welch has it right because joe biden would have been in there in a minute. Look, the Republican National committee today is out with a video. A really strong attack video just splicing together comeys comments and clintons past comments. Thats what the Trump Campaign should have been ready with. I echo what nicolle was saying earlier. Its inexplicable to me that they were not better prepared and i think that speech last night was just unfocused and should have gone after what comey had said about her because i think the clinton team has
legitimate argument that comey, if he was not going to indict the job of the fbi director, recommend an indictment or not. But to go through that bill of particulars was devastating. That really isnt his job at this stage, at least. But by doing that, she is completely on the defensive. Wait a minute, the campaign should not be complaining about james comey right now. They should be thankful that is, of course, he was going to be, if he wasnt going to recommend charges, he would do what he did. Couldnt have done that for the reputation of the fbi. I think because of the i think he had to. Line agents. You talk to prosecutors yesterday. They said they read into comeys statement, there was some debate among the investigators. They dont make the ultimate decision about whether or not to bring charges. I think he was trying to achieve more than what was apparent. No, but i think he was trying to protect the reputation of the
fbi. Also said there were other ramifications for this. Andrea, final word. It is going to resonate. This is going to resonate. This is going to hang over the entire campaign, especially with our own polling showing that trust and the trust deficit is one of her biggest issues. On the day she was going to be campaigning with the president and now in Atlantic City to talk about Donald Trumps bankruptcies. Mikas poll. F favorite poll of the year. Nobody is bored, though. Get bored with this. Well be right back. You owned your car
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recommend an indictment. Then he said no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case. If you read the article in wall street journal today chief judge ingeneral, chief judge in the Southern District of new york, this is an absolutely overwhelming case. A violation which makes gross negligence the standard. He found her to be extremely careless, her and the staff. If you look at the definition, the definition is extreme carelessness. People of lesser rank than Hillary Clinton have been diin t indicted and convicted. You now have republicans, many republicans pulling their hair over their nominee. Democrats this morning doing the same over their nominee. One thing we may be about to see is throughout their entire history the clintons best friends have been their biggest political enemies, over and over again. You have a searing political indictment which goes to the heart of Hillary Clintons claim, i am better than donald trump because he doesnt know anything and ive been there for 25 years. The director of the fbi indicting her in all but a criminal way. Now, if the republicans were smart, thats what they would talk about. He has undermined her case for the presidency. If they go off on was it an indictment with respect to i think youre going to have this man, this director of the fbi, a republican, saying i cant find the evidence. They dont need that to make the political case. My guess is based on 25 years of what theyve done, they will go
running in that direction and mis miss the point. I had my hat on as former u. S. Attorney, i consider this decision an outrage, an embarrassment to the Justice Department and the fbi. Politically i agree. Id leave out the last part of his decision and i would say, jim comey tells you this woman shouldnt be within a thousand yards of classified material. Shes a serial leaker of classified information. And he basically said a serial liar. There was Something Else he said. Im curious as a former prosecutor, explain he said hes a former prosecutor, which people need to remember. It sounds like hes saying, look, if i brought this case, i
wouldnt get a conviction. That doesnt mean he doesnt think she was guilty of something. I dont have enough evidence to get the how much does that weigh in a decision on prosecution . It does. But not his. Thats the attorney generals job. I disagree with him completely. He has a knockdown clear case of gross negligence. Intent is always hard. Youre dealing with circumstantial evidence and trying to figure out whats in somebodys mind. I think the destruction of 34,000 emails, the movement of the server, putting it in a private home. Id love to try this case. I also agree with you politically thats over, that part of it. Although the next attorney general could take this case up. Hold that thought because we have to take a break. We were going to continue this conversation. Much more straight ahead. From t. jon bon jovi with directv, you can. You see, weve got the power to turn back time lets start over, lets rewind and lets go back and not quit the gym and have a chance to say goodbye to grampy tim oh, thats the power to turn back time. vo get the ultimate allincluded bundle. Call 1800directv. Prge a manufacturer. Well thats why i dug this out for you. Its your grandpappys hammer and he would have wanted you to have it. It meant a lot to him. Yes, ge makes powerful machines. But ill be writing the code that will allow those machines to share information with each other. Ill be changing the way the world works. interrupting you cant pick it up, can you . Go ahead. He cant lift the hammer. Its okay though youre going to change the world. Where selfproclaimed ofinancial superstars , pitch you investment opportunities. Ive got a fantastic deal for you gold with the right pool of investors, theres a lot of money to be made. But first, investors must ask the right questions and use the smartcheck challenge to make the right decisions. Youre not even registered; im done with you i can. I can. Savvy investors check their financial pros background by visiting smartcheck. Gov the earth needed to find a new wayry, to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. Just 30 billion . A bold group of researchers and computer scientists in silicon valley, had a breakthrough they called. The machine. It changed computing forever. And its been part of every new technology for the last 250 years. Everything . Everything this year, Hewlett Packard enterprise will preview the machine
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investigation of secretary clintons use of a personal email system during her time as secretary of state. I opted for convenience to use my personal email account, which was allowed. They were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. I thought it would be easier to carry just one device. She also used numerous mobile devices to send and read email. We went through a thorough process to identify all of my work related emails. The workers did not individually read the content of all of her emails. And deliver them to the state department. Its highly likely that their search missed some work related emails. So that the emails were immediately captured and preserved. There was no archiving at all of her emails. That was my obligation. I fully fulfilled it. They deleted all emails they did not produce to state. And the lawyers then cleaned
their devices in such a way as to preclude complete forensic recovery. It is possible that hostile actors gained access. There is no classified materials. 110 emails contained classified information at the time they were sent or received. Im certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified materials. Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. At the time this doesnt seem like an issue. None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. Good morning. What just happened . I mean what just happened . I mean, i dont get it. Its interesting. I was actually going to write a post for the Washington Post two nights ago and entitle it i dont get it because everybody was saying, oh, shes not going to be charged. I read the statutes and i looked at the information. I saw the people who had been charged in the past for doing much less than she did. And then yesterday morning Jonah Goldberg had a column called i dont get it. This is like a scene out of big. Youre tom hanks and youre looking at this thing and i dont get it. There are people that have been convicted with no intent for doing far, far less. And their only crime in the end was their last name wasnt clinton, so they didnt walk. Its staggering. Then you look at whats happened over the past week with the
meeting between clinton and lynch. You look at the dangling of the job offer in front of Loretta Lynch in the New York Times. You look at them trying to hide the interview on saturday morning fourth of july weekend. And then comey yesterday coming out saying shes guilty but were not going to charge her with anything. In effect, if you read the statute, it was staggering what we saw yesterday. Shes guilty, but were not going to charge her. With us onset we have former Communications Director with president bush. Steve ratner. I told you you shouldnt have come today. Yesterday was my birthday. So we wont run the split screen clip again. Happy rthday. Thank you. Still, the managing editor and cohost of with all due
respect that airs at 6 00 p. M. On msnbc. Hes in trump land. Trump land. Oh. You know, i saw some clinton apologists say this is a big win for Hillary Clinton. Its pretty rough all around yesterday. Well, i disagree with that in the sense that if youre at a fork in the road and theres a binary choice here, she gets indi indicted, doesnt get indicted. If she gets indicted she would almost certainly not be the democratic nominee and not the next president of the United States. Thats the binary. She didnt get indicted. All of them, the collective sigh of relief was audible. Now, the New York Times which has covered this quite well over the last 24 hours. One of the pieces yesterday described this as the worst possible piece of good news for Hillary Clinton in the sense that everything that comey said as a matter of politics is potentially devastating in the sense that republicans can use the things that comey said. This raises lots of suspicions. Also proves that she just didnt tell the truth. From the very beginning, she just we have two candidates running for president of the United States who are completely disconnected from the truth. So what we have and what we just showed our viewers says that for itself. Its kind of hard to deny. I guess one does it better than the other in terms of the two candidates. Which is really depressing and
alarming. Yesterday in an unexpected News Conference or was it fbi director james comey said the fbi would not be recommending charges against Hillary Clinton over the use of her private email server while secretary of state, but not before delivering a critique of Hillary Clintons handling of classified information as secretary of state. Although we did not find clear evidence that secretary clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of highly sensitive classified information. Seven email chains concern matters that were classified at the top secret special Access Program at the time they were sent and received. Those chains involve secretary clinton both sending emails about those matters and receiving emails about those same matters. We also developed evidence that the Security Culture of the
state department in general and with respect to the use of unclassified systems in particular was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified wbr id wbr77511 information thats found elsewhere wbr id wbr77530 in the u. S. Government. From the group of wbr id wbr77570 30,000 emails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret at the time they were sent. 36 of those chains contained secret information at the time. And eight contained confidential information at the time. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in secretary clintons position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about those matters should have known that b
an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. None of these emails should have been on any kind of unclassified system. But their presence is especially concerning because all of these wbrid wbr78130 emails were housed on unclassified personal servers, not even supported by fulltime security staff like those found at agencies and departments wbrid wbr78220 of the United States government or even with a commercial email service like gmail. I think its also important to Say Something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the emails here containing classified information bore markings that indicated the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked classified in an email, participant who is know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it. We did not find direct evidence that secretary clintons personal email domain in its various configurations since
2009 was hacked successfully. But given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom secretary clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that secretary clintons use of a personal wbrid wbr78881 email domain was both known by a large number of people and ready apparent. She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to secretary clintons personal email account. This is brutal on all fronts. On all fronts. He even said that using gmail
would have been more secure than what she was using. That when she said there was no classified information, that was a lie. There was 110 at least. When she said nothing was stamped classified, it goes to what ive said all along. If you knew or should have known something was classified, the responsibility is on you. If youre sending emails about drone warfare, you know its classified. Where do you go with all of that . How low is the bar too . Claims refuted by fbi findings if youre driving the car. No classified info, she says. Thats not true. Allowed by state. That was a law. Turned overall work emails. That was a lie. Used a single device. That was a lie. Never breached, highly doubtful. And i understand what youre saying, that it was a good day because she wasnt indicted. But we spent three hours talking about 61 of americans who are alarmed. If the bar were any lower, it
would be buried underground. It counted as a good day for their she doesnt indicted. But what he did yesterday, i watched this live and thought oh my god, donald trump might stumble into the oval office. He cemented with those six exhibits what a lot of people worry about with her, which is that she has a horrifically difficult relationship with the truth, that the clintons dont just think theyre above the law, they function in government as though they are above the law. By the way, they time and time again are proven to be above the law. You can lie under oath before a federal grand jury and youre fine. Now, you get disbarred. They disbarred bill clinton, but youre fine. Any of us lie in front of a federal grand jury, we would go to jail. We just would. If any of us mishandled classified information that way, it would not be followed by a
but were not going to file charges. We would go to jail. Theres a naval reservist last year, just put some classified information on a private laptop, tookt home to his apartment, had no intent to distribute. Arrested, convicted. If that was a serious violation in the white house and you had to be retrained on security protocols. I mean, this is handled inside the white house and inside the state department with such seriousness. So the fact that she did all those things and then lied about it, you know, the old sort of political adage, its the coverup, not the act that gets you in trouble. Theres a couple things to be said. First, certainly from the standpoint of at least the legal disposition, thats good news for the clintons. Number two, nobody including secretary clinton would say shes proud of this. That really doesnt matter. Lets go back to the u. N. Thing. I think you have taken in some cases things that you can say she lied she lied. You can say she lied. I did. She lied. Donald trump lies. We say it when he lies. Why dont you say it . It will make you feel better. Did she lie . She said stuff before later before this, she said she had misspoken. At the march 2015 press conference she said there was no classified information. Later she said she didnt send anything that was marked classified. You know thats not the standard. Good try. One final thing. One last thing . Yeah. One last thing. You have to decide whether youre going to question the integrity of james comey whoological now has had an
unimpeachable reputation and where he said very definitively that there was no basis to prosecut prosecute her. Thats not the only thing he said. Anybody else would have gone to jail. I dont question james comeys integrity. I question his courage. He lacked the courage you question the courage of a guy who rushed to john a ashcrofts bedside . Yes, i do. The fbi last year under james comey convicted a man who did far, far less. And i wonder how hes feeling this morning. Go ahead. There is a big picture that is troubling as well, i think equally as disturbing. After that litany of violations that he outlined, some might say
that you would think he would recommend charges. That didnt happen. It seems to cap this investigation which many feel has the appearances of impropriety from the start. Lets go back to president obama. President obama, the president of the United States, speaking out on the case. On the case. Which is still active. In april. In april. Take a look. Hillary clinton was an outstanding secretary of state. She would never intentionally put america in any kind of jeopar jeopardy. And what i also know because i handle a lot of classified information is that there is classified and then theres classified. I continue to believe that she has not jeopardized Americas National security. What ive also said is that and shes acknowledged that theres a carelessness in terms of managing emails that she has
owned and she recognizes. But i also think it is important to keep this in perspective. It was also shocking and we mentioned it back in october i think on 60 minutes where he said in october, while they were investigating, the president of the United States, who runs the Justice Department, no evidence. She did nothing to jeopardize National Security. Thats not what comey said yesterday. And here you have the chief Law Enforcement officer of the United States deciding almost a year before the findings come out that theres nothing to see. That is frightening. Flash forward to eight days ago when president bill clinton had a private meeting with attorney general Loretta Lynch on a tarmac in phoenix inside her plane. Lynch says they discussed personal issues like golf and grandkids, unrelated to the investigation of secretary clinton. Only it was followed up days later in the new york time which is reported that the clintons
appeared to dangle a job in front of the attorney general. Quote, democrats close to mrs. Clinton say she may decide to retain ms. Lynch, who took office in april of 2015. This written in the New York Times in the midst of an investigation that would indict Hillary Clinton and end her president ial run. And the New York Times doesnt even write at the end of that sentence, currently mrs. Lynch will have the decision on whether to prosecutor Hillary Clinton for matters related to her email. And then yesterday, fbi director comey said they cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges as they lack intent. Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. This is not to suggest that in
similar circumstances a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or the administrative sanctions but thats not what were deciding now. But if intent is the issue, because he said there was no intent, so they couldnt charge her. Then what about the case less than one year ago, a former Naval Reserve commander plead guilty to the unauthorized removal and retention of classified materials. Nearly nine years ago while stationed in afghanistan, he had access to classified briefings and records that could only be retained and viewed on authorized government computers. He caused the materials to be downloaded and stored on his personal unclassified devices and carried those devices off base and ultimately back to the u. S. Once his deployment ended. Once back home, he copied these
materials onto at least one unauthorized and unclassified system. He admitted he handled classified materials inappropriately and that he destroyed some at home. An fbi search of his home recovered numerous classified materials. The investigation however did not reveal evidence that he intended to distribute classified information to unauthorized personnel. It said they did not find intent. He was ultimately sentenced to two years probation, a 7,000 fine and was ordered to surrender any held security clearance and to never again seek such a clearance. Here you have a naval reservist that took a personal laptop with classified information home, kept it there, never distributed it to anybody and was actually convicted. When the fbi said they found no intent. James comey yesterday said if theres not intent there, prosecutors dont file charges. They did a year ago. What are you going to do, though, when the president says six months ago yeah. And youve got the president of the United States again, weve gone down this litany of how horribly this administration has handled this investigation. And then youve got the president of the United States going out trying to cover up the news of the day and there were people stupid enough to lead with barack obama and stupid enough to lead with barack obama and Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail together. Stupid enough to take their bait. Stupid enough to follow what the white house wanted them to follow. Nothing to see here, move along. The whole thing really is an unfortunate stain on the Obama Administration, is it not . Well, look, at the time the president said what he said, we discussed it at length on the program. It was either the case that somehow he knew the facts of the investigation and was sort of teasing them out or he was just
saying it with no facts. It seemed like the wrong thing to do at the time. He couldnt possibly have known then all the things that comey listed yesterday. Comey did something extraordinary. Youre saying youre right, the president just made it up six months ago. If you listen to what comey said, the president was dead wrong when he went on 60 minutes in the fall saying that she didnt jeopardize National Security. He was dead wrong and reckless while the fbi agents were investigating this case. Clearly an improper thing for a president to do in the midst of an Ongoing Investigation. What comey did yesterday was extraordinary. Its not really the role of the head of the fbi or a prosecutor to say heres all the facts we found. He convicted her in some ways without giving her a chance to respond. I believe now because hes opened the door, were going to eventually hear from fbi agents
who worked on the case. Be interesting to see if they all agree with his decision. The prosecutors the fbi was working in tandem with, what do they think about this decision. And it will be debated quite a bit in the context of the campaign trail. The trump folks are looking at what comey laid out or looking at some of the discrepancies between what she said and the facts. The fact they claimed that they read every email and meticulously handed over all the work related ones has now been, by comeys account, proven to be wrong. I think other people with knowledge of the case are likely on the record and in other ways to weigh in as well. Still ahead, lowell get Alberto Gonzalezs take on this. And the great denis leary joins the table. Well be right back. And when wbr id wbr86941 millions couldnt get health care, this first lady worked with republicans and democrats to fix it. b
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of word soup. All the cases prosecuted involve some combination of clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information or vast quantities of information exposed in such a way to support an inference of misconduct or indications of disloyalty to the United States or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here. The fbi director said no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Hillary Clinton over the emails. Well see if former attorney general Alberto Gonzalez agrees with that. At the beginning of the 21st century, the earth needed to find a new way to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. Just 30 billion . A bold group of researchers and computer scientists in silicon valley, had a breakthrough they called. The machine. It changed computing forever. And its been part of every new technology for the wbr id wbr91049 last 250 years. Everything . Everything this year, Hewlett Packard enterprise will preview the machine and accelerate the future. See star trek beyond. b
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horrible. I had my freakout. I just let the story speak for itself. In the course of like six days, the worst optics ive ever, ever, ever, ever seen. But they are optics. No, theyre just not. Hold on. When you put out to the New York Times, who by the way decides the New York Times decides shockingly not even to mention oh by the way, the name they are floating is a woman who has the possibility of ending her president ial campaign by indicting her. When they put that out in the New York Times, it just shows how stupid the clintons have always taken us all for being. They think everybody is stupid, and they always have. Fine. All im saying stop right there. All im saying is that in the end it didnt matter because
comey came out, made his statement and its over. Joining us from nashville, tennessee, former attorney general under president bush Alberto Gonzalez. Nbc news correspondent Hallie Jackson also joins the table. Whether your reflections on jim comeys decision yesterday . You know, surprising, id have to say. Of course, i have to give him the benefit of the doubt without actually looking at the evidence. Given his public statements and whats in the record, im a little bit surprised at the outcome. What im really surprised about was the statement that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. That is not his job. His job is to do the investigation, present the evidence and maybe privately as a former prosecutor give his assessment as to whether or not to move forward. To say that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case, means that if anyone dare
disagree, youre unreasonable. If Loretta Lynch decides to move forward, shes unreasonable. If she does, what does that do to jim comeys credibility and judgment . I think that statement was interesting. I think in that News Conference james comey, who has a storied career that few can question really, put his entire credibility on the line. Theres no other way to look at it. I mean, is there . Rudy giuliani who actually was a former colleague of his, has the greatest respect for him, just said its a clear misreading to ha ining of the l face. That comey in the first half of the press conference shows why there was gross negligence and then ended it by saying he was not going to bring any charges. I respect his service. But again, his job is not to make an assessment as to whether
or not there could be a prosecution. His job is to present the evidence. He could offer a recommendation or opinion, but its up to the prosecutors to decide whether or not to move forward with the prosecution. That is not the job to have fbi director. As an institutional matter, i found that comment to be very troubling. Lets switch topics for one minute. You previously said that Donald Trumps views dont represent the views of america and the Republican Party. Do you still feel that his views, especially on issues like race, do not represent the views of america . Im troubled by some of the comments that donald trump has made. Im hopeful they dont reflect his true feelings about people based upon their ethnicity. I think hes got some work to do to shore up the base and to at tract enough votes to make him
successful in november. Well just have to wait and see. How disturbed were you that he referred to an indiana judge as a mexican simply because his parents immigrated from mexico here . I think that was somewhat shortsighted and obviously offensive to many hispanics and others in this country. I wrote an op ed that as any litigant would have the right to question the impartiality of a judge, but to question that impartiality of that judge based solely on his ethnicity i think was wrong. Again, just another mistake hes made during this campaign. Do you support donald trump right now given all of the statements hes made regarding race, regarding hispanics, regarding muslims . From my perspective the two most important decisions the president has to make deals with the Supreme Court and National Security. Hillary clinton said shes going to continue president obamas foreign policy, which has been a disaster. I dont think donald trump will be any worse than hillary
clinton with respect to foreign policy. I already have a pretty good idea what Hillary Clinton is going to do. The list of possible people that donald trump might appoint gives me some hope he will do a better job in making appointments to the Supreme Court. Again, lets we keep saying hopefully hell turn this around. I remain optimistic that hes going to do and say the right things to make him a viable candidate going into november. Hallie jackson covering trump. Im sure he was all over this, right . Well, kind of. You guys know, right . I think he did well. Not that i wanted this to happen but i think he keyed in on some really specific words that resonated with the American People. I think theres a sense in the republican world that he
should have gone after this harder and sooner and earlier. He finally now is tweeting this morning a clip. Take a look. Were going to play you about 30 seconds of it. I did not send or receive any wbr id wbr97355 information that was marked wbr id wbr97376 classified at the time. From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the state department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. At the time. At the time they were sent or received. So its comeys words, its clintons words. Again, this is something that as soon as you saw james comey deliver that press conference, a lot of folks thought where is this video. Steve, you said a coupl of minutes ago that this is over. This is not. This is going to be fodder on b
the campaign trail for donald trump for the next four months. Crooked hillary, theres backup to that now in his view. The Trump Campaign says over 6 million views so far of that video. On facebook, yeah. Thats pretty extraordinary. Wbrid wbr97976 incredible. They are actually getting their message out maybe in a nontraditional sense but theyre getting that message out. Just in case i misspoke, i meant the question of whether shes going to be indicted is over. Obviously the politics are going to go on for a long time. I have been. Ive got to tell you, its a political indictment. I think people can connect with this and they already do with the honest and trustworthy numbers. It sounded like he indicted her for ten minutes and then spent five minutes explain why he wasnt. Still ahead, quote, hell
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never made it, which only makes it worse. At age 50 when we hitch our star to this 22yearold, were all like just out to elbow each other out of the way to become stars. Can you name a rock star that became a rock star after the age of 25 . It houaunts me every day. By the way, so i get up there and play and sweat for like three hours on the upper west side. Did you have a band back then . I did. What was the name of the band back then . It was a lot of different names. What was the name . What was the name . What kind of band was it . Alternative. Did you write songs . Yeah. I still write songs. Ive been writing songs forever. Dont get hostile. I have a hostile actor on my hands. The funny thing is, though, i get up there and sweat for a
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