Unanimous nod of approval from the Senate Armed Services Committee Earlier this week. President obama expected to design a bill improving suicide treatment for ptsd but took his own life. Thats going to do it. A thursday edition awaits of morning joe right now. Very cold on the east coast right now. This comes to us from brooklyn, new york. Its a cautionary tale about irony and karma and about the dangers of making your dog wear little footies. Come here. Come here. Come here. All right. Welcome to morning joe. 6 00 on the east coast. Thats sad. Whats that . I thought you said thats sad. No, good stuff. Still eating my oatmeal. Its all a very good day. Howard are you . Im good. Ready for this nice weather. Dear lord if youre in the new york area ive been checking all the maps and i talked to bill karins me tells me this time tomorrow morning, 6 00 new york its going to be minus 237 degrees. No. Its like on its going to be the scene at the beginning of the Empire Strikes back. Its going to look like a ice planet hoth willie and were going to have to find out. Were going to be riding. Were going to have to find luke. Hes out there somewhere, right . Colder than minus 273. Where . Burlington vermont. Dont do that. Home. Willie our good friend here donny, obviously going to boca right . As a matter of fact, going to south beach, yes. My kids well, its washingtons birthday. You take your kids away for the weekend. I think thats what George Washington would have wanted it. Washington would have loved south beach. There was a big debate about, you know right before the whole thing kicked off in 1776 the revolutionary war. They said we base ourselves here. South beach. I dont think the washington loved it. He really did. Those curtains and everything. Anyway were going the start with news now with tvs own mika brzezinski. Lets start in washington with the war debate happening there. And democratic and republic lawmakers appear to be in a agreement about having concerns that the obamas formal request to use military force against isis. He says the authorization to cover military operations for
three years. Once again state it would not involve troops on the ground. Now, make no mistake in is a Difficult Mission and will remain difficult for some time. Its going to take time to dislodge these terrorist, especially from urban areas. But our coalition is on the offensive. Isil is on the defensive and they are going to lose. The resolution we submitted today does not call for the deployment of u. S. Ground combat forces to iraq or syria. It is not the authorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. The request prohibits, quote enduring offensive Ground Combat operations and there are also no geographical limitations. The vagueness is leading to questions on both sides of the aisle. I believe that if were going to authorize the use of military force the president should have all the tools necessary to win the fight that were in. And so as youve heard me say over the last number of months im not sure thats a strategy thats been outlined will accomplish the mission the president says he wants to accomplish. There is no limitation no statue of limitation on the original 2001 authorization. I think thats a key problem. The other major issue is the language preertaining to ground troop, broad, ambiguous. None wf us knows what enduring offensive combat operations means and deliberately i think drafted to be ambiguous. Does the president need to be more clear . It depends on who you talk to. I mean youre not going to have Foreign Policy experts and military men and women like this idea because most of them have an attitude like colin powell had the attitude. If youre going to go to war, you dont want a fair fight. You throw everything at it. You dont trickle in trickle out. Thats how you get caught in these endless occupations. I still believe to this day that it was Donald Rumsfelds obsession with a light footprint in iraq and the ignoring of Colin Powells use of force doctrine that actually caused a lot of problems. Of course george w. Bush handled. Agreed with. But, howard you listen to both sides and you really understand the pull that the president is feeling. And that is a pull that actually is reflected in the American People, who, one dont want to see americans get beheaded, our allies getting burned up by isis. But at the same time, they dont want to spend another 12 years with boots on the ground in iraq. So the president has got to free the world of this scourge but when hes talking about no Ground Troops in iraq, hes not by himself. Hes got about 60 of americans behind him. So this is fascinating. First of all, i happen to agree
with the president s position. But thats neither here nor there. This may actually be the first real legitimate debate in congress for the last four or five years because this is not a partisan debate. Theres people on both sides on both parties. The outcome of the debate doesnt really matter because they can say whatever they want. The president has the power to do what he needs to do. If the president turned around unless the resolution passed as written he can turn around and send in Ground Troops tomorrow. Which is the way it should be the president would have power to decide what the military policy should be. This is a great thing. I think its very good the president went to congress. I think theyre going to get every viewpoint and i dont think its going to be particularly partisan. We need the national debate. I agree with the way this is going. This is not going to be partisan. Youre doing to have republicans, youre going to have reservations, youre going to have democrats that are going to want to be more aggressive. A lot of cross currents going
on. We may have something break out in the house of representatives that never breaks out. Right. Im serious. A true debate. Lets go to nbc news correspondent kyra simmons who is joining us now from amman. How are they reacting to the debate in washington . Reporter i think one of the ways that its going to be viewed from here is as shedding some light on a timeline because maybe the decision has to be made there in washington before action can be taken here. Just listening to your conversation there as well, though mika another possibility is that the being clear about how u. S. Troops will or will not be used is pushing the regional powers here and those in iraq to say, okay we have to do something. There is a sense of a building towards some kind of an action. If i would say a ground offensive is very likely of some
kind because, in the end, you cant defeat isis from the air. Then the question is okay what kind of ground offensive is that . It looks like it will be heavily supported by the jordanians if it happens. The sunni, the kurds, the baghdad government. Its a Difficult Coalition to bring together. Thats the trouble. Keir its willie. How heavily are countries like jordan and the gulf states rely og the United States expecting and hoping they will weigh in heavily as this debate continues here . Do they want big numbers of Ground Forces . They have our support in terms of weapons but do they want american troop theres with them . Willie you know, as well as i do that anything like this without substantial u. S. Backing is just not a nogo. You have to have the u. S. On the side and the air strikes are largely carried out by and planned by the u. S. But that doesnt necessarily
mean that it has to be u. S. Troops on the ground because it can be u. S. Equipment, it can be u. S. Resources, and help with training in alliance with some of the other regional powers here. I mean that is possible. But heres a crucial thing, though willie. As you know back when al qaeda in iraq was defeated back in 2005 that took an uprising in iraq and it took the u. S. Military to make that happen. And question you have to ask yourself is whether or not those forces in iraq have the ability to carry off something that the u. S. Military, in all of its training and resources, was able to do. Can the iraqis really pull that off . Keir simmons, thank you very much. You know mika front page of the New York Times on this story about out of North Carolina. Chapel hill, the killing of three muslims, just and the pictures are heartbreaking, just they look like wonderful
wonderful kids. And you read through this story and this ongoing parking dispute. Because when i hear parking dispute by the cops oh, thats a bunch of b. S. Theyre trying to cover up hate crimes. But this guy this guy that shot them was constantly coming over harassing them with rifles. Said he was an atheist attacking christian on line angry man. You shoot three people in the head over a parking dispute . Its unbelievable. When you hear from his wife it becomes more and more confounding. The family think, though that it was a hate crime. And you, i guess this is whats going to be unpeeled is whether his obsession with them parking
in, i guess, his parking place, was driven in part by his hatred not only of them as muslims but also his fierce hatred of christians anybody that believes in god. Lets go to reporter on the scene joining us now from chapel hill North Carolina nbc news correspondent mark potter. Mark, we saw unc Students Holding a huge vigil last night. Want to hear how the community is coping but are there any clear answers from either side on this . Reporter no clear answers yet. But a lot of controversy and a lot of grief in this community as you indicated, mika. There was a big vigil at the university of North Carolina last night. By our count, 2 to 3,000 people there mourning the loss of these students whose lives were caught so short. Where im standing right now is front of the condo building where these killings occurred. That upstairs condo is where the suspect lived. The victims lived on the first floor behind him. Now, as you said the police say
that this killing was sparked by a dispute over parking spaces. But the victims families are just not buying it. They dont believe it. Showing no emotion, 46yearold Craig Steven Hicks came to court facing first degree murder charges for allegedly shooting to death three of his young neighbors. It occurred late yesterday afternoon in a quiet chapel hill condo complex. Residents called 911. I just heard gunshots. I dont know what building it came from but i heard skids screaming. Reporter a Family Member said police told him all three were shot in the head execution style. The victims were muslims who had grown up in america. Theyre identified as 23yearold dee a barakat, planned a trip this summer to help Syrian Refugees and the woman he just married in late december, 21yearold abusoha about to start dental school. Also killed her sister
19yearold rasan, studying arc techxture at nc state. Because of islamic state, there was immediate concern the victims were targeted because of their religion. It was a hate crime from a neighbor. Our children spoke about their uncomfortable with. Chapel hill police and other Authorities Say they believe the shootings were the result of a the events of yesterday are not part of a targeted campaign against muslims in North Carolina. Reporter the suspects wife agreed it was a dispute over parking. I cant say with my absolute belief that this incident had nothing to do with religion or victims faith. Reporter at the condo complex, residents are mourning the loss of three young neighbors. Also last night the chapel hill mayor said the investigation into the killing continues. He says that finding as to motive is preliminary and this police are still looking into
that. Back to you. All right, mark potter thank you very much. Its so heartbreaking. These three young beautiful kids who literally had their entire lives in front of them and successful. Senseless. Beautiful, beautiful kids. Were all sitting here stunned. I wonder what the Research Tells Us that the average american when they hear the word muslim comes back. Is this kind of builtin i guess nor rant hatred just for that word where we all know 99. 99, whatever it is. I wonder what the actual reality is in this country as far as ignorance to what the word muslim means because what we see on the news, the extremeist, the fundmentlists is obviously the obscured minuscule. How much hatred is underneath whats going on in this country now. I think you talk to most muslims who live in the United States and they tell you they get a bitter shake here and a
bitter chance here. Less prejudice here than anywhere else in the world. I dont think thats not an issue. Whats that . I think its a question. I think there is builtin hatreds that turn everything stinkts, wron what happened here but the question is there for a reason. Of course there are. You dont know it happened here. This could have been North Carolinas version of zimmerman, you know going around chasing around a guy because hes black and claiming he was just trying to protect the neighbor. Lady, this guy was just trying to protect these parks places but he happens to do it with three muslims students. One thing you have have to keep in mind with these horrible cases, the people under the perpetrators are all crazy to one degree or another. These are not balanced people ppts true theres a lot of bias against muslims and we shouldnt if you have bias against people the normal response is not to go out and kill execute three people in a parking lot. Especially two young women and once youre crazy, youre crazy. Anything is on the table. Thats the problem. I have to raise this. What the hell are people like this doing owning guns . Theres this debate going on but whether it was over parking or it was a hate crime, i would submit kit be both. Theyre not mutually exclusive. You can be angry about a pashing spot because of hate. We dont have facts yet. Its not an either or proposition proposition. Breaking news in europe where russian president Vladimir Putin announcing a ceasefire set to begin midnight on saturday in eastern ukraine. Talks ran for more than 15 hours with leaders of france and germany taking part with ukraine and russia. Fighting continued in the region today leading up to putins announcement. More than 5,000 people have died in the conflict since last april. Lets bring in nbc news chief global correspondent bill neely live from london. Bill, do we think its going to hold . Reporter well, thats the big question. And it is an agreement thats modeled on a ceasefire agreement from six months ago that frankly wasnt worth the paper its written on. And this is an amended version of that. These were extremely difficult negotiations according to the German Foreign ministry. Intense discomfort around this table as ukrainian president pairpar shank cowas face to face while putin continues to deny russias direct involvement in the fighting in eastern ukraine, much to the dismay of the german chancellor and french president. We have an agreement, a ceasefire thats to begin on midnight on the 15th. Heavy weapons apparently to be pulled back within two weeks. Now, you can already see room for disagreement wiggle room there. And German Foreign minister has said this is not a comprehensive solution. It is certainly not a
breakthrough. So the devil is in the detail. It remains to be seen in the next couple of weeks whether this deal, unlike the one in september, can stick. All right. Bill neely, thank you very much. Possible 2016 contender in Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has made his way to london. They all go to london now. But then they dont ask questions or answer questions. Its all bad. What do you mean . Yesterday he met with british chancellor and finance min store george osborne. Like Chris Christie who came just a week earlier walkers purpose was to talk about expanded trade and investment between wisconsin and the uk. The governor did something christie did not do on his trip the politics of Foreign Policy stop at the waters edge. He refrained from offering an opinion regarding the fight against isis and arming the ukrainian rebels. But he also punted as he put it on the question of evolution. Are you comfortable with the idea of evolution, do you agree
with it, do you accept it . For me im going to punt to that one as well. No. Really . Thats a question a politician shouldnt be involved in in one way or the other. Im going to leave utd up to you. Any british politician right or left wing, would love to say, yes, of course evolution is true. To me its just one of those where im near to talk about trade and not pontification. I love the ef evolution of trade and wisconsin and i would like to see a bigger evolution as well. Thank you very much. Clarified in a series of tweets writing, quote both science and my faith dictate my belief we are created by god. I believe faith and sigh wrens compatible and go hand in hand. Its unfortunate the media chose to politicize this issue during our trade mission to foster investment in wisconsin. Joining us from washington msnbc Political Correspondent kasie hunt. Kasie, that answer by scott walker, was like like a kasie
hunt question . I dont know. Kind of a gotcha in an innocent way . An innocent gotcha. Kasie, they keep going to london. They keep having these dustups. They do. In some ways scott walker overlearned the lesson of Chris Christies trip. He took it so far to refuse to answer that basically wasnt about wisconsin cheese which was the subject he was sort of there to do. But this one was interesting because its a question that comes up all the time in the rm primary process. And for somebody who is opening an office in iowa which scott walker is doing, you know, the last two people who won the last two republicans who won in iowa both were proponents of intelligent design. Rick santorum tried to amend the no child left behind about to promote it. Mike huckabee wiz one of the people who raiseded his hand thoon debate stage in 2007 saying he doesnt believe in evolution. Im not sure the gotcha question is the right way to characterize it but it certainly is something
that has had relevance in the past. Its a question thats been asked, howard at debates. And it always puts it puts republicans in this terrible position, they think, because nobody has well, i guess scott started to say but you would say i can believe in evolution and god. This is a particular problem for scott walker which has not been an issue yet but it will. Scott walker, if president , would be the first president in in m ages that did not have a College Degree. He did not finish. Its not dancing around the evolution for political positions, the issue is how well educated is this guy . Are you serious . I like that. Are you serious . Yeah. Youre saying he didnt manage to qualify, he didnt finish college . I think there are going to be a lot of people who worry about that. Do you worry about people who dont finish college . I worry about people in the
United States not knowing much about the world and not knowing much about science. I worry about that. Lets name the people that didnt finish college that have changed the world. Hairy truerry truman. Bill gates . Nobody is accusing scott walker of having the intellect of bill gates. Nobody is accusing scott walker of being dumb because he didnt graduate college except you. I didnt say dumb i said not knowledgeable. Whats the difference . There were issues about him not graduating. He lost a Student Council president ial election and there were allegations that there was some something not right in that election as far as something that didnt oh, god, i cant believe you guys im not saying hes stupid. Clouds about why he left college. How do you know his unknowledgeable . Hes knowledgeable about whats going on in his state . What in the hell does that have to do with him answering the question the way he did . Evolution is a widely accepted scientific construct and people who dont believe in evolution either do it for hard right religious reason or because they dont know anything. What youre saying is that Mark Zuckerberg might not believe in evolution because he didnt graduate from college, either. I didnt say that at all. I said that first of all, Mark Zuckerberg and bill gates dropped out of college for different reason they had started what became titanic companies that changed the world. Scott walker didnt finish college for who knows what reason. Donny was talking about him. I think that is going to be examined on the campaign trail. I think it should be. I think having an education about what goes on in the rest of the world is pretty important to be president of the United States. I got to say, and im looking through the hall of fame of people that didnt graduate from college. Its pretty remarkable. I think scott walker got through 3 1 2 years of college. Of all the things that i have that impact me in my daily life
a College Degree is like near the bottom of them. I mean i got a great education. I got a great College Degree. But i know a lot of people you look at Peter Jennings Peter Jennings didnt graduate from high school. One of the best, most well read guys in news from anybody that knows him. Theyre all around us. Im just saying trying to attach him not going to college to not answering the question on evolution, i think is how would you say, a demon stretch. I think if you dont know anything about science, thats a problem. How do you know he doesnt know anything about science . Because he only went through college 3 1 2 years . No because he doesnt believe in evolution. That is an uneducated answer. Not because of college but that is an uneducated he said im not going to answer the question. Dont you have an issue with a politician who says im punting and not answering the question . That in and of itself that i agree with. I think he should have said what he tweeted. Its not about college. Can i help everybody it out here . Yes. Here you go, republicans. So they ask you this question about evolution. You say yes, oh, gosh he doesnt believe that god created man and the earth in seven days. You can say that evolution. And faith are consistent. Science and faith are consistent, that god you believe god created the world and you believe in science. Its really simple. As opposed to im punting. Its really simple. This is a problem every four years. And you know youll have liberals from, you know vermont asking this question trying to set conservatives out who are physicians who care about science. And the question is why do you set up over something you shouldnt be set up. I believe in evolution. I believe in science. I believe in the word of god. You know who we should ask about this . Who . Someone who went to harvard and yale. Samantha power is going to be on next hour. We could talk to her. Its valuable. We could talk to bill gates. Okay. Inject one last thing just because donny brought it up. Marquette University Running for president sophomore years. Accusations of Skull Duggery because of newspapers who endorsed his opponent mysteriously disappeared from campus although blim wasame was never determined. I dont think thats why he dropped out of school. I just report. Stole newspapers. Youre not reporting, just making stuff up. That was i didnt make that up. That was a thing. There you go. Skull duggery. Thats not why you dropped out of school. He dropped out of school because he got a job after he got married after his third year. Well check this out. Kasie, thank you so much. Yeah. Okay. Up next were going to remember the life and legacy of bob simon. Pierce, im so glad youre here because ive got a role that is perfect for you, man. Dont tell me, action adventure. Sort of. Alright, picture this we open on you. Youre driving in a beautiful car up a Snowy Mountain road. Youre going. 200 mph . No, 30. You look up in the trees and you see. Sniper . No, an owl. You come around a bend. Theres something blocking your way. A missile launcher, right . No. A moose. A moose . [laughing] whats the mission . There is no mission. Top secret, eh. Yeah. Sort of. So you keep going towards the summit your destination. And there it is. A cabin a cabin. And it explodes. [agent] what . No. Its just a cabin. No explosions . No explosions. But there are fireworks. Oh, i like fireworks. [agent making fireworks sounds] [agent] right . [pierce] can i keep the car . [agent] oh yeah, you can keep the car. [pierce] ok, im in. Ring ring progresso i cant believe im eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sisters wedding well its only 100 calories, so youll be ready for that dress uhhuh. You dont love the dress . I love my sister. 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. Hey matt, whats up . Im just looking over the company bills. Is that what we pay for internet . Yup. Dsl is about 90 bucks a month. Thats funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. Wow, thats fast. Personally, i prefer a slow internet. There is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. Dont listen to the naysayer. Switch to comcast Business Today and get 50 megabits per second for 89. 95. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back. So, mika, just to to we follow up. The Washington Post wrote a story about scott walker leaving school a couple days ago. They said the explanation was
simple on walkers part. He got a job. He meant to go back and just never found the time to go back. He made it all of the way to his Spring Semester of his senior year. So got the job and that ask unusual with six months to go to leave college. Im not saying anything is wrong. Most people leave college dont leave after 3 1 2 years. There doesnt have to be a greats conspiracy year. Ive had friends who quit School Senior year because they had had enough. Not everybody, you know, goes to the school of hard knocks like you. The school of business. Here you go. I just throw that out. On your yacht. A lot going on right now. Really sad news coming off the west side highway last night. Tragic news. Yes. Bob simon, the veteran 60 minutes correspondent was killed last night. His colleague scott pelley delivered the emotional report. We have some sad news tonight from within our cbs news family. Our 60 minutes colleague bob simon was killed this evening. It was a car accident in new york city. Simon was in the back of a town car that hit a mercedes at a red light. Simons car careened into metal barriers and he was pronounced dead when he got to the hospital. The two drivers survived. Simon led a remarkable career working for cbs news for 47 years and 60 minutes since 1996. He covered vietnam and was one of the last on one woft last helicopters out of saigon. He achieved near celebrity status in israel riding a motor psyche to scenes while covering the middle east for years. He was there for the end to fatah and became close to Prime Minister playing tennis with him before his public assassination. In 1991 while covering the gulf war he and his crew were taken
into captivity and beaten with canes for 40 days which he wrote about in his book. We skau a jeep in the distance. And it was an iraqi army jeep. And they took us away. And we eventually wound up in the secret Police Headquarters called muhoborat and treated very badly. Yesterday they were released in baghdad and this morning they talked with ed bradley. Bob simon producer peter bluff, cameraman Roberto Alvarez, and sound man juan caldero. Has this change you . Yeah. How . I dont know. Too early to tell. Simon said he was sure he would be killed if cbs executives had not lobbied Mikhail Gorbachev to intervene because simon was jewish. His last report to air before his death was on the new movie selma. He is survived by his wife and taughter tanya who is a producer
for 60 minutes herself and father and daughter were working together on a report on ebola for this weekends 60 minutes broadcast. Bob simon was 73 years old. What are your thoughts . Something about the cbs family, especially the 60 minutes family and the veterans that you cant really find the words to describe the kind of reporters they are and were because when you watched bob simons stories you were enriched, you were enchanted, you were charmed, you were educated. And you have to watch his stories to understand the kind of man and the kind of reporter he was. Will will i . Willie . When you look at the pictures right you and you have to draw in your mind the image of foreign koesht. Its bob simon. Its him in war zones, riding his motorcycle around tel aviv. The former and executive producer. Jeff fager called him reporters
reporter which you have there. Thats a good way to describe him. Jeff also pointed out the added tragedy of a man who survived so much over his career, losing his life in a car on the west side highway. So easy we watch this little box and we see people like bob simon all over the world in these situations and you just take for granted that they are literally putting their lives on the line every day. And i didnt know him but colorly i just a great man. And like mika said one of the last helicopters out of saigon saigon, a guy who covered all the wars all of the conflict, captured in iraq got through all of that and died on the west side highway in a senseless accident. Our thoughts and prayers are with the simons family jeff fager, 60 minutes family and entire family of cbs news. Well be right back. Ch ing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. Know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. Know the right Financial Planning can help you save for college and retirement. Know where you stand with pnc total insight. A new investing and Banking Experience with personalized guidance and online tools. Visit a branch, call or go online today. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. The president ceo of the International Rescue committee david. David, obviously, we continue to focus on the chaos in the middle east isis, the United States trying to figure out what sort of resolution they pass along to the president , what sort of authorization. Talk about the chaos thats being caused though in that region, the refugees that
continue to spill over into jordan and to turkey and other areas. How destabilizing is it for the entire region . Theres an implosion going on of monumental proportions in the middle east. Whats striking at the moment is wars between countries are much rarer than ever before. Its a pretty peaceful period of Human History not withstanding the ukraine situation, well come on into that. Wars between states is rarer but theres never been this amount of civil war. Theres never been this number of people displaced over conflict. I think there are two reasons, mainly. Weak states. 30 or 40 states around the world cannot contain ethnic and political and religious difference within peaceful boundaries. Secondly, the International System is weak and divided. Those two reasons come together to create a degree of anarchy and my Organization National rescue committee, is now in 35 countries. Were having to deploy to ukraine today. Were sending an Emergency Team to ukraine. Thats the last thing we need because ear overstretched in syria, somalia, west africa and ebola. David lets talk about ukraine. Possible ceasefire this weekend. Not just a possible one but an agreed one. We will know the three days before a ceasefire are the most dangerous period. More killing in the three days before a ceasefire than in a week before. But its a real diplomatic coup america merkel. What we face is where a Million People have been displaced from their homes is whether the ceasefire is a cover for more violence. Thats the strategic question that europeans face in a very serious way because russia is on their doorstep. Heres what i dont understand about this. I understand nobody wants to confront putin and europe for a lot of business reasons and other reasons. Willing to confront him economically. But neartheyre not really willing to do that. The sanctions could be much
tougher than they are. I think they are having a real impact inside the russian economy. Whats the end game here . I dont personally and i dont think people expect putin to keep his word and so i disagree its a coup for mrs. Merkel. Tactical coup. But two weeks from now it may not look like that. When do we confront putin and make him stop . The thing about rush a is the combination of one hand assertion and power, they know that theyre stronger than the ukrainian military. On the other hand, a huge victim complex and they believe they are the victims of a western plot. Now, the game as you put it for europeans, is that they have to get together so that their Energy Policy is properly integrated because thats their biggest leverage. At the moment European Countries get picked off one by one. European unity is a big part of it because until russia respects europe as unified block its not going to be able to enganl with it. The other side of the coin of
course, is that the russian overdependence on oil and gas is not good for yup peens s europeans or russians, either. The sense of victimhood is real. As you know well, the ceasefire will come and go and putins ambition will not change about what he wants out of this. He wants to assemble the old union. What else is in the tool box for the west beyond sanctions to stop him from his ambitions . He certainly feels that the collapse of the soefviet union is the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century. I think he recognizes a subzefient government in kiev is more likely outcome than occupying kiev or making ukraine part of a new soviet union. The Baltic States poland theyre not going to become part of the soef yoetviet union. Hes looking for a near abroad on the border more subserveient and less engaged. It shouldnt have to make a choice between being either russian or european. The tragedy of ukraine is its either a vessel or an enemy of russia and it needs to be neither. It needs to be engaged with europe but also engaged with russia because of its pivotal position. The tragedy for putin right now . Im going to add to the, the tragedy for him right now is that oil is at about 50 bucks a barrel. If it were at 125 or 130 i suspect he might be there longer. Interesting part of russia. The russians are willing to suffer for their National Pride like no other people on earth. Its extraordinary. Yeah. And thats why the sense of victimhood has got to be understood. The first rule of diplomacy is put yourself in the shoes of the people on the other side of the table. I think youve got to see russia as a tragedys well as the kind of assertive aggression that youre referring to. From our point of view from an humanitarian organization we knee across the world were
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plan tactical actions that will defeat not just degrade, isil. This conversation that they started whether its enduring operations, whether its closely related, the language in the aumf is going to be closely defated. No surprise to the man people every word is going to be poured over to make sure this is the right authorization to get the job done. So what for you, what do you think the right approach is . The right approach is to make sure this president is not restricted in his ability to defeat isil. That being said, however, if the president believes its necessary to use words to gain buy partisan support, im open to that conversation. I also think the tenor and tone of this debate is important because if you send the wrong message, if its over vitriolic, if it becomes an thees sage it sends to our terrorists is the wrong issue to be sending. Some are criticizing the
president for being vague. The issue here if youre too specific you run up about what youre warning here . Senator rubio said a one sentence aumf is appropriate, defeat isil. Others belief the use of the word enduring on the left allows too much opportunity for the president to bet overly involved. There are people on the right who believe thats a restriction never been done in an amuf before. Again, this is the very beginning of a process. Congress has the ability to write the aumf and the consult consultation is important but its important that the tone we set is one of defeating the terrorists and making sure we give our men and women in uniform the support full strength of the United States. Would you like there to be language in there with the people of colorado your candidates s
constituents. If you look a the language itself it says no enduring offensive operations. That leaves the way for special forces. The question is does it allower to us to protect the Free Syrian Army for instance. Thats up for debate. I think the people of colorado are interested in defeating terrorists who are becoming a direct threat to the homeland. If not already. We need to make sure we provide our men and women in uniform, this commander in chief, the authorization from congress to get the job done. All right. Thank you. Up next, were going to have senators joe manchin and pat toomey teaming up to join us right here on morning joe. Across america, people are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes. With noninsulin victoza. For a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar but it didnt get me to my goal. So i asked my doctor about victoza. He said victoza works differently than pills and comes in a pen. Victoza is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. Its taken once a day, any time. And the needle is thin. Victoza is not for weight loss but it may help you lose some weight. Victoza is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. It is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. Victoza has not been studied with mealtime insulin. Victoza is not insulin. Do not take victoza if you have a personal or Family History of medullary Thyroid Cancer multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to victoza or any of its ingredients. Symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include swelling of face lips, tongue or throat fainting or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat problems breathing or swallowing, severe rash or itching. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Serious side effects may happen in people who take victoza including inflammation of the pancreas pancreatitis which may be fatal. Stop taking victoza and call your doctor right away if you have signs of pancreatitis, such as severe pain that will not go away in your abdomen or from your abdomen to your back with or without vomiting. Tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you have any medical conditions. Taking victoza with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. The most common side effects are nausea, diarrhea, and headache. Some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. If your pill isnt giving you the control you need. Ask your doctor about noninsulin victoza. Its covered by most health plans. Hey matt, whats up . Im just looking over the company bills. Is that what we pay for internet . Yup. Dsl is about 90 bucks a month. Thats funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. Wow, thats fast. Personally, i prefer a slow internet. There is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. Dont listen to the naysayer. Switch to comcast Business Today and get 50 megabits per second for 89. 95. Comcast business. Built for business. You know who else had a great year . Ups, ladies and gentlemen. They made so much money that this year theyre adding additional surcharges. We made so much money last year we decided to charge you a little bit more this year. Heres the report. Take a look. After costs soared during the Holiday Season ups will soon begin applying surcharges for various services. Customers can not expect additional fees for peak season delivery, temperature protection, and to request that our drivers dont urinate on your house. Message from ups. Wow, mika. What . How are you doing . Im okay. How are you . Its okay. I have had a hard week here. Kind of upset. Im sorry. A lot of things going on. A lot of tough stuff. Hard not to sometimes bring it to the table. All right. Coming up at the top of the hour, the legal authorization to fight isis. Thats what president obama is seeking from congress but his request is drawing criticism from both sides of the aisle. We go live to the pentagon for that. Well also be speaking exclusively in a few minutes with ambassador Samantha Power. Plus house of cards fans got an unexpected surprise yesterday after show popped up on netflix two weeks early. Was eight screw up or a little hype. Not for 30 straight minutes. Well be right back. [ female announcer ] who are we . We are the thinkers. The job jugglers. The up allnighters. And the ones who turn ideas into action. Weve made our passions our lifes work. We strive for the moments where we can say, i did it we are entrepreneurs who started it all. With a signature. Legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. And were here to help start yours. He trains. Hes psyched. Ready for the knockout . You dont know aarp. Hes staying in shape by keeping his Brain Healthy and
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afghanistan or iraq. The president of the United States talking about an authorization that he is seeking today that is already drawing criticism, but not just criticism from the right. Also criticism from the left. Who believe its too open ended. Mika from the right, theyre saying its not specific enough. Yesterday we of course had Washington Post legend bob woodward on and bob woodward said his reporting out of the pentagon suggested that generals and admirals were concerned because there was no war strategy. That debate will continue. But you are hearing from capitol hill that the president s Foreign Policy the president s approach as he goes into this war that he says is such a critical war, just isnt focused enough. There are a lot of people that want to take the colin powell approach who famously said when you go to war you dont want to fair fight. You throw everything at your
enemy. You kill your enemy. You achieve your objectives, then you bring the troops home. President obama says the authorization would cover military operations for three years. But once again stated it would not involve 2r507troops on the ground. The request prohibits, quote, enduring offensive Ground Combat operations and there are also no geographical limitations. The vagueness is leading to questions on both sides of the aisle. I believe that if were going to authorize the use of military force the president should have all the tools necessary to win the fight that were in. And so, as youve heard me say over the last number of months, im not sure thats a strategy thats been outlined will accomplish the mission the president says he wants to accomplish. There is no limitation, no statue of limitations on the original 2001 authorization. I think thats a key problem. The other major issue is the language pertaining to ground
troops, which is broad, ambiguous. None of us knows what enduring offensive combat operations means, and deliberately i think drafted to be ambiguous. All right. Go ahead. I would ask quickly. Harold, do you believe that the president can achieve his objectives, which is to grenade, defeat, and destroy isis without boots on the ground . Probably unlikely. If you listen to military experts, they all agree that its likely that well sneed to put troops on the ground. We hope we would have our friends and allies in the middle east that would go with us including the jordanians. I understand peeker boehners concern. Its wrong when you say youre going to military effort to exclude anything to be a military effort. Donny said something off line. Taking the president at his word hes willing to do what it takes to win but to be definitive about no combat operations raises legitimate concerns. Does it mean that events
cannot change that . Sure. He can make any move he wants. To me to tee it up the way he did because we all know 67 of americans will go like this obviously its still an enemy that is forming itself. So if we need boots on the ground thats what we will do. The president here though interesting one. Not exact comparison. We did this for quite some time with the nofly zones. We adopted a containment strategy. A containment strategy was basically made, Saddam Hussein irrev lent more or less. We kept him in his cage with a nofly zone. You keep quoting colin powell but colin powell also said if you break it you own it. You go in with maximum force but he was not in favor of going in. The president figures we have to stop these guys. Somebody else in the region has to supply the troops. Otherwise, well do containment but were not doing destruction. The beginning of the colin
powell doctrine said identify the interest. The president has to follow through on the entire thing. Identify the type of force used. Until your point, the number broken, we have to be willing to state the longterm offensive. Mika we keep talking at the powell doctrine before that the weinberger doctrine put to the as reaction to vietnam. You dont go in until you know what the trigger event is that will take you up. Why is the octoberive you have to achieve and mistake that americans have made time and time and time again is they have gone into war halfassed. Ly say it. They have gone into war halfassed. A little bit here, a little bit there. See what happens. They end up using american men and women as targets foreign mys, for suicide bomber for snipers to blow their brains out. If you are going to war, go to war to win war. If youre not going to go to war to win war, then keep our men
and women home. This right now continues to seem, to me at least, to make more of a halfway approach. How would you vote if you were in congress . How would you vote the way this resolution sounds like its being framed would you vote yes or no . I would vote no right now. The president doesnt have a strategy. You talk to generals who will tell you the president doesnt have a strategy. You talk to democratic Foreign Policy giants, they will tell you the president doesnt have a strategy. Hold on. This is important. You talk to foreign ambassadors, both friends and foe, they will tell you the president doesnt have a strategy. Im not willing to send more americans to die until the president knows exactly what he wants out of this. And this incrementalism this leading from behind is not good enough. Validating his point. First of all, joe, we didnt even hear the world isis isil in six months. This is a new enemy. You agree with the president. Basically what hes saying is hes leaving his option. You can call it indecisiveness. We dont have a strategy. Hey, look i am not sending americans over wait. A year ago he called isis jv. This president has spent the past two years youre agreeing with him. No, i am not. Youre saying you would not send boots on the ground until we know exactly what ear harold asked me a question. The question was how would i vote on this. If i was in Congress Based on what weve heard. I would vote against it. I would tell the president please go back to the white house and do your job. Get a clear coherent strategy. Bring in the top Foreign Policy minds in washington and around the world and lets get a strategy to defeat isis. Because this incrementalism this halfway approach, this reluctance to call this war what it is its what its what leads us into places like
vietnam. Its what led us into places like korea. Its what led us of we sgloe what led us into vietnam is the military claiming we could do all of these things and weapon couldnt. We had half a million troops in vietnam, twice as many in iraq. No comparison. They would take the hill. They would surrender the hill. It was again, it was once again us getting we had no exit strategy. Again. Going back to what colin powell said dont go to war nms you have the triggers efbt ss events thats going to get you out of war. We dont have any of those questions answered. This whole conversation actually really puts makes the challenge all the more clear. Lets go to the pentagon now with nbc news chief pentagon correspondent. Squlim jim, what are your hearing from your sources and also what is the risk of being less vague . Well, you know the u. S. Military leadership always wants to have a Clear Strategy with
quite frankly, no limitations. And they dont feel they have it here because, in fact there are limitations put on these operations the very fact that this authorization would rule out the possibility of large numbers of Ground Combat forces just sends a signature gnat to the enemy, according to military officials, all they have to do is sit and wait this out. Now, at the same time, however, this policy of containment is perfectly acceptable for the leadership now because they have nowhere else to go. Air strikes are pretty much the only thing the u. S. Can contribute now and until the Iraqi Military is in a position to actually sustain any gains that may be that may be achieved through ground operations by the iraqis, according to general dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, were just painting over rust. Were not getting to the root of the problem. Now, the idea about ground
troops has been particularly vexing if in fact they are limited. You will remember that general dempsey in testimony before Congress Said look if i think the u. S. Military to succeed we needs Ground Troops i will recommend that to the president. The president has taken that off the table. Let me ask you, mik, follow up on our talk yesterday with bob woodward. And i know weve spoken with you and youve said some similar things. But i want two specifics from you to see what youve heard around the pentagon. Woodward reported yesterday on morning joe that the pentagon the generals and admirals were very frustrated with the president for two reasons. The first reason he didnt have a coherent strategy. They thought he was muddling through this. And secondly, they were angered by the level of micromanagement coming out of the white house. What have you heard on those two points . You know, it not only the generals but its many of the civilian leadership that are
somewhat, i wouldnt say angered but frustrated by the micromanagement theyre getting out white house. Again, we go back to the military strategy here and they do believe this is a strategy of containment only. But again, for the time being, this is such a complicated situation, that the u. S. General dempsey himself said we dont want to rush to failure. They want to take their time. Again, putting any limits on the u. S. Military is to the leadership is just not viable or acceptable form of strategy. Jim, we always love having you on. Greatly appreciate your time. Jim at the pentagon. I vote no too. I share your opinion. Until you layout what were going to accomplish how you plan to accomplish it and a way to move on afterwards, 7th p youre going to invoke general powells name as you talk about a doctrine im not comfortable with it right now. Im prepared to take stronger action but i need the president
to layout what our goals are and how hes going to do it. Lets look back. I dont think thats unreasonable. Lets look at over americas hicks since 1945 end of world war ii, since vicktory and the great war. Think about the trillions of dollars we have spent on defense. Think about the hundreds of thousands of men and women we have sent overseas. Think about the results we have had. Weve lost korea. Really because of macarthur were able to fight it to a draw. But we didnt win korea. We lost vietnam. We did pretty well in the first gulf war but we ended up losing it in the end. I think there would be some who deliver deliver with you. We laid it out and followed that plan. The powell doctrine worked there. Unfortunately what followed up the followup war, bungled that up. Right. Some of george w. Bushs
people would say that we ended up winning that war because dexter and other reporters who said it was chaos earlier said there was stability and peace there. That was lost. So the iraq war, we lost iraq. Iraq is in a much worse position than it was at the very beginning. And we have a president now who is asking for a 540 billion defense budget. We keep fighting wars that we keep losing or at least not winning. We keep spending money on military equipment that the pentagon doesnt need but the military Industrial Complex wants. We keep putting military bases across the world in places that we dont need. We allow two of the four most powerful economies in the world, japan and germany, to have u. S. Taxpayers fund their military
defense, the second and the fourth richest nations in the world. We are still funding their military machines. Weve got a pentagon budget that spends more than the next 12 countries in the world. And weve got an f35 plane that we have been developing now that doesnt work and weve spent more money on that one airplane or we will by the end, than we spent in the entire iraq war. And yet youve got a pentagon ill go to you, willie. Youve got a pentagon that you cant even take accountants you couldnt hire deloitte and say clean that up. Tell us whats going on because it is such a maze. It seems to me that everything eisenhower warned about becoming military Industrial Complex
spending more and more money, asking more and more men and women, more and more people are dying and were getting nothing for it because we have president s on both sides that just sort of stumble into hes wars. For a lot of people as you two know well, military spending the third rail. If youre against beefing up the military budget youre passivist or weak on defense and it can hurt you on election and people go with that and people take money from the defense industry. I think the question is what lessons do we take from all those wars you just described because weve had now people sit on this sect congressmen, analysts saying we need to send more Ground Troops in. We can go in light but more troops is what we need. Didnt we just try that in afghanistan and iraq and werent we there now for a decade and a half without a decisive victory . Lets be careful. Lets remember what just happened. In a way, the very articulate compilation of facts that you put together, the narrative that you just built, i cant, in a way you could see why that would
argue for and against what the president is doing. You know what side actually is that an argument for . Its against what the president is doing. Its against what congress has been saying. Im going to say his name again. And i hope people at home will go and read the powell doctrine. The followup to the weinberger doctrine. Heres the deal. You go to war as the absolute last possible option. Only when every other option is burned. But when you go to war, you go to war to win. You go to war not to guard schools. You go to war not to feed people soup. You go to war to kill your enemies, to arrest the leaders, to try them for war crimes and then to bring your sons and daughters back home to california and to kansas and to connecticut and to alabama. We are not a nation of occupiers and this halfway approach has led us to occupying half the world. Joe, joe, let me i dont disagree with what youre saying but what i disagree with is not in some way understanding a process. Let me hear you out. This is an enemy we dont clearly understand yet. Everybody says they do at this table or any place else, this is a new enemy. Let me finish joe. Donny if you dont understand the enemy, if you dont understand the threat and im stopping you here for a reason and ill let you continue. Let me finish though. If you dont understand how to defeat that enemy, then you just stop right there. The process ends right there and you say were not going to be fools and rush our troops into a situation that we dont understand. What you said what hes saying is, hey look this is a new enemy. This is a war thats going to be fought in one form or another. We need more money. If nothing else from
intelligence to gear up hopefully we wont need troops. Joe, let me finish. Hey. If im in that seat. Yeah. And i know there is a cancer there thats getting worse, thats ugly probably augustliest thing weve ever seen, im not going to come out and say, we need troops because 70 of to country will be up in arms. I going to say i need to gear up for a war. I dont know what that looks like but i need to start putting some money in my kitty to gear up for this war. We all know around this table if at some point we win that war we will have to probably send troops in but you just dont say it now. Thats management. Thats management. Unfortunately were halfway in that war right now. Donny, lets turn this to business. Which is what im saying. Im coming to you. I got this great business idea. Okay . Youre such a great businessman, donny duetsch, i need i probably need 20 million to start this business. Can i have it . Will you give it to me . Okay. What questions are you going to ask me. These are the questions im going to ask. I think listen to me. Ask questions. If somebody says to me theres a factory built down the park. Answer the question. If somebody comes to me say it this way. Theres a fact think thats being built right now, i can do nothing and wait for that factory to be completely built in i dont know exactly what my factually is going to look like but i do know i need 10 million to at least hire the first 100 architects to do this. I dont know what that factory, but i cant wait for the other factory to be built. Thats the answer. What are they making in that other factory . Making killing innocent people around the world. How is your product going to stop that . How are you going to stop that . I need r d, i need new drones. Whats your Business Plan . My Business Plan is ive got to stop the enemy. Thats like saying your businessman joe, i dont know the enemy yet. I dont know what im dealing with. Does that mean you dont do
anything . What that means is you get the ceo or the person who is pitching you for the 20 million you will not get the 20 million. You dont get the money. You say, hey, okay listen i understand you got a problem. You got a great product. You need to go back and you need to talk to your board. You need to talk to your investors. And you guys need to come up with a specific strategy because im not going the give you that money until you know what the hell is going to happen until you know how its going to end. This is something much more precious american blood and american treasure and american reputation than starting a factory. Obviously. And so if an investor wouldnt get money for a halfass Business Plan then why should anybody approve anything while everybody in the pentagon is saying this president doesnt have a war plan. He needs to understand he cant lead from behind anymore. He cant be a professor anymore. Hes got to be commander in
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carefully before investing. Call us or your advisor. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. Hey matt, whats up . Im just looking over the company bills. Is that what we pay for internet . Yup. Dsl is about 90 bucks a month. Thats funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits. Wow, thats fast. Personally, i prefer a slow internet. There is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. Dont listen to the naysayer. Switch to comcast Business Today and get 50 megabits per second for 89. 95. Comcast business. Built for business. Welcome back to morning joe. Here with us now, u. S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Samantha Power. Good to have you on the show. I apologize that you got your job at a time when things just sort of slowed down and stopped. Yeah. Are you taking learning are you learning Foreign Languages, are you picking up golf . You have nothing to do. No. Its an adventurous time. We had more meetings with the Security Council last year than any year in history, so its measurable but im trying to figure out a time as nomomentous other than the
60s where so many things were colliding at the same time. Have you talked to people in the u. N. , any parallels they say this goes back to because it just keeps coming up. Yeah i think whats signature glar about the moment is the level of fragmentation and the weakness of many states to patrol what goes on within their own borders. Thats something president obama is really investing in you know Border Security dealing with financing, things like that. So its just in a lot of places. I mean the threats in the cold war were no exocatastrophic. Also world war ii was challenging. The cold war, it was organized. It was us and them and the push and the pull. Here, it is some multi. Ltimultilateral world. My job is the best job in the world because i feel because being at the u. N. You also have to mobilize other countries to step up and be part of the solution and not just kind of hanging back and waiting for the
United States to do everything. So whether on ebola or isil or ukraine, it requires multilateral solutions. So lets then focus in on the latest news. The president articulateing whats next in the fight against isis or some say not articulating enough of a strategy. And where does the challenge of bringing in other countries to help play into this . Well, i mean i think one of the reasons we sent up the authorization for the iceuse of military force to the hill and we should be able to get bipartisan support for that is to show the world that were in this for the three years and well beyond it thats what the next president decides is required. It would show the unity, it would show that even in polarized political times on Something Like isil everybody can dpreeagree. We think embedding flexibility into the strategy and into the authorization and placing in reasonable constraints is
something we should be able to mobilize a Bipartisan Coalition around. Nobody loves it. We didnt expect everybody to love it. We will work through reasonable adjustments to try to create that coalition and send that signature gnat to the world. Ambassador we know there are already some american troops on the Ground Fighting isis. Weve had congressmen and senators sit on this set over the last couple of weeks and say we need more. We need to send in grouped Ground Troops. No specific number given by them. Given the experience the American People are rightly skeptical of that. Do you think at some point thats going to be necessary to crush, degrade, and destroy to use the president s terminology, isis, do we have to send in american men and women to finish the job . The president has been very clear the form of struggle against isil will not look like the deployment of thousands of american Ground Troops and so forth. Right now we do have some troops on the ground but theyre performing a training and advising real rolle p Ground Troops are necessary but theyre not going to be american Ground Troops. You have to get the iraqis and
ultimately the syrian moderate opposition groups up so they can fight the fight on the ground. There has to be a fight on the ground. You cant do this by air. Everybody acknowledges that. We have saw deploying so many troops over so many years unless the iraqis congeal and have conclusive political system and military capability on the ground anything we do is going to be stop gap. So it requires more patience and its really is going to require more time because the troops are not in a state yet to do the full rollback and to sustain the gains that they make. They have to get there. Theres no work around the fact that the iraqi army has to be the central part of this solution. Can you foresee a moment where if the iraqi troops are not up to the task and they cant do it alone the president says well, this threat is so great to the United States we now have to send in our own people. You dont see that at all . I dont see that day at this point. I think the authorization, again, was sent to the hill makes clear that president obama
doesnt foresee enduring Ground Combat operations. There may be circumstance wheres you have to do a rescue of your people or you know special operations targeting specific isil leaders. You dont want to take options off the table of that nature. But i think president obama really does believe, given what weve been through as country, and given what we need the rukys to do that its important to signal this is not the iraq world of old and were not moving in that direction. I want to ask you about diplomacy concerns pertaining to Bejamin Netanyahu and our relationship with israel. Is the escalating controversy about his visit here damaging the relationship . Look i think the i see every day at the u. N. Working with my israeli counterpart how thick the relationship is. Do you think he should come . I am now one of the diplomats in the administration so im not going to address that question. Youre going answer that question like a diplomat. I think we have made clear
that trips associated with ones own electoral fortunes or in the vicinity thereof that we as a white house dont feel as if we can associate too closely with that because it gets in the mix of someone elses politics. Its concerning . Again, our relationship is thick. We may disagree tactically. We certainly, you know have disagreements over policy issues as well from time to time. But you know if you would be more cooperative, mika just wanted a yes because she wants ambassador power to say, israel quote, concerning. We will get past any bumps in the road. So lets talk about the issue thats obviously causing the angst with Bejamin Netanyahu and israel and that is talk with the iranians. How are those going . Because we are really in the crunch time here im not going to get into any of the specifics. I think there are significant gaps that remain. But it would be a major achievement, needless to say, if we were able to diplomatically and not militarily to be able to deny iran paths, multiple paths to Nuclear Weapon and thats the objective. Under what terms would iran agree to that . We will see. We will see. But it is it is clear that the economic sanctions both are bilateral sanctions and the ones put in place by the United Nations that weve ever done through the u. N. Through the Security Council theyve really bitten and iran is willing to consider the kinds of terms that they had never been willing to consider before. So theres still, again, many rivers to cross. But it would be a major achievement to deny iran a Nuclear Weapons program, to deny them multiple routes to that program would be a major upgrade in the security of the region if
that could be achieved. So u. S. Lawmakers in Congress Want to provide 1 billion 1 billion to military aid to ukraine. What impact would that have to our relationship with russia. I dont think that that is something to next to all else crippling sanction against russia sustain. Other forms of assistance. I dont think the Financial Assistance is something that is inflaming in any deep sense. Were hopeful overnight, of course there was a new agreement settled upon. I have not had a chance to process the details of it. Agreements have come and gone in the past and not implemented. So our emphasis now is, you know making sure that this is not just, you know doing a peace deal with one hand and then passing out more surfacetoair missiles with the other which is what it looked like in the past. Wide ranging interview with
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was just talking to my dad. Dr. My dad and ian got their drone stuck in a tree and they wanted to fly it from great falls to mcclain but i explained to them you cant do that right . Yeah. Its not allowed. Theyre very disappointed. Was its not its an issue especially after the white house situation. It is. I mean oh. There are no rules. Drones are something that are being regulated. We talk about them mostly in the military context. Right. But, you know, doing it in your backyard can be dangerous, too. As i found out. As ian found out. Whats that . What happened . Same thing. Idiots. Republicans. It was actually the same one that went into the white house. I said lets see how high this thing goes. It goes high. See. And then that thing started flying into another yard and i had to bring it straight down and i brought it straight down. It was up so high it landed in the top of like a 40foot tree. Why do i always want to just tackle somebody when i see them playing with it. Yes. I dont know. Issues. I have issues. Theres something ability drones and party affiliation. Thank you so much for being with us. Your fashion continues to amaze mika. Youve got great style. I do. Thank you. Yes. Its amazing. Were going to be looking for the new issue of time. Still ahead, interviewed some of the biggest names in film tv and theater. We go inside the Actors Studio next with james lipton. Yes. Shopping online is as easy as it gets. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple . Thanks to angies list now it is. Weve made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. Buy their services directly at angieslist. Com
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friend. Look at him today. He is on broadway as we speak. Starring in the elephant man. That was his thesis. He took it to broadway. People asked me what do you admire in actors . Number one risk. Sure, chance plays it all, but we tell our students at the actor studio and drama school if you get lucky, you better be ready. Good piece. A new episode of inside the Actors Studio with this years oscar host Neil Patrick Harris airs tonight at 8 00 p. M. Cool seeing Bradley Cooper as a student. Fascinating package, but Bradley Cooper as a student, huh . Cool. Isnt that something . You have to see elephant man if you can. I guess you have to go to london. What . A week a week and a half . Im in. The war debate rages on in washington. The president s request for legal authorization to fight isis is met with criticism by
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request to use military force against isis. President obama says the authorization would cover military operations for three years, but once again stated it would not involve troops on the ground. Now make no mistake, this is a Difficult Mission, and it will remain difficult for some time. Its going to take time to dislodge these terrorists especially from urban areas. But our coalition is on the offensive. Isil is on the defensive, and isil is going to lose. The resolution weve submitted today does not call for the deployment of u. S. Ground combat forces to iraq or syria. It is not the authorization of another ground war. Like afghanistan or iraq. The request prohibits enduring offensive Ground Combat operations and there are also no geographical imitations. The vagueness is leading to questions on both sides of the
aisle. I believe that if were going to authorize use of military force, the president should have all the tools necessary to win the fight that were in. And so as youve heard me say over the last number of months im not sure that the strat thats been outlined will accomplish the mission the president says he wants to accomplish. There is no limitation no statute of limitations on the original 2001 authorization, and i think thats a key problem. The other major issue is the language pertaining to Ground Troops, which is very broad. Very ambiguous. None of us really know what enduring offensive combat operations means, and deliberately i think draft it to be ambiguous. Arguments on both sides. What are you looking at . So i looked up the doctrine because weve been talking about it. Yeah. And its a great guideline. I talked about all the wars fought since world war ii that
we havent won and theres a reason why the weinberger doctrine, set out in the 80s to try to relearn the lessons of vietnam, were then updated by colin powell in the 1990s. Listen to these. As we go through this process, i hope people on capitol hill will ask these questions. Is there a Vital National security interest threatened . And i guess thats a question, is this a direct threat to the United States . If we dont go over there and fight isis will buildings be blown up in new york city and in washington . Will americans be killed . Two, do we have a clear, obtainable objective . No. Three, have the risks and of cost been fully and frankly analyzed . I will only say, Congress Left town at a sixhour debate and then ran off to have elections
in the fall before we started this. So the answer to that no. Four have all other nonviolent policy means been fully exhausted . Thats debatable. Five is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement . Uhhuh. No. Six have the consequences of our actions been fully considered . You cant fully consider the consequences of our actions until you know exactly what our actions are going to be and the president is remaining as his spokesperson said yesterday intentionally vague. Yeah. Seven is the action supported by the American People . Well the American People dont know what those actions are going to be because its been intentionally vague. Eight do we have International Support . I actually think for the first time in many years we may have International Support, but what
underlies the poul dockwell doctrine that you dont go to war until its the last possible action. But then when you go to earth, it is hell on earth and rain down hell from above, use every means to destroy your enemy, kill your enemy, capture your enemy, secure the location and then bring your troops home. Uhhuh. We americans arent occupiers. We shouldnt be an Occupying Force for over a decade and if we are going in to fight isis we have to be going in to defeat isis. And right now were in that muddy middle ground that led to korea. Were in the muddy middle ground that led to vietnam. Were in the muddy middle ground that led us into iraq and were in the muddy middle ground that has kept us in afghanistan for 12 years. When people say were fighting in afghanistan because of
pakistan, that kind of fails all of these tests as well. So mika we need a clear, coherent strategy from the president , but also from congress. Wed like to see the Congress Speak with one voice as well. It will be interesting to see what the debate turns out to be because in some waysish are you saying you cant go in unless most of the answers to those questions are yes . Because if thats the case then are you in some ways actually expressing support for what the president said yesterday . No. Im not at all. So then you think we should be going in completely although we cant answer all of those questions yet . No. No, im not. Im saying before the president asks for use of force, he has to answer these questions. This president likes to stay intentionally vague when it comes to Foreign Policy. He likes to lead from behind. Hell go out and make a statement, because foreign leaders have long said he believes a speech is the ends
and not a means to the ends but hell say Something Like gadhafi must go but have no strategy behind that. Or hell say, assad must go. And hell have no strategy to get that done. Uhhuh. Hell say, mubarak must go. Hell have no strategy to get that done. Do you think we should have boots on the ground . He will draw red lines, that then he will erase from the sand. I do not believe we should have boots on the ground unless we have a strategy agreed upon by the commander in chief and the military that explains how we defeat isis destroy isis and then achieve our objectives and then bring our troops back home in respect is no way muddling in another war in the middle east we can do that. Nobodys even talking about the fact that iran is having an expanding footprint in baghdad,
and that shiite militia, having expanding footprint. And then we have the kurds and then we have the chaos, of course, in western iraq. We have the chaos in syria. We are stepping into a mess, and this requires actually for the president if he wants to go in to develop a coherent strategy a Clear Strategy that our military men and women can follow and that the American People can either accept or reject. I think the debate is afflicted by our recent part and how weve gotten into war. The word you used last hour was halfassed. You can say it about korea, say it about vietnam and say it about iraq and you can say it about afghanistan as well. Exactly. We went into afghanistan, we didnt fund afghanistan then tripled the number of troops in afghanistan. But, again, you can throw money and you can throw troops at a situation but with no underlying strategy you are wasting money, and you are wasting lives. So heres white house press
secretary josh earnest talking about the president s language and questioned about the vagueness of it. Take a look. That language is fuzzy. Is it not . Intentionally so and the intent is intentionally so . Infengstentionally fuzzy . Yes. We believe there arent overly burdened strength on the commander in chief who needs the flexibility to respond to contingencies that emerge in a chaotic military conflict like this. Rootight now a democratic senator from West Virginia member of the Armed Services committee and energy and Natural Resources committee. Senator joe manchin. Also republican senator from pennsylvania member of the budget committee, senator pat toomey. Senator manchin, lets begin with pup ive been voicing concerns about the way that republican and democratic president s over the past 50 60 years have muddled in and out of wars. What do the people of West Virginia think about the president s latest request . Well weve risen to the
cause every time we want to defend this country and fight and we die for this country. Bottom line be very clear. I dont want any way to get medaled gun is a ground war where you dont have reputation. We understand the definition of insanity in West Virginia. With that said we can be clear and direct and help those who want to help themselves and give jordan as quickly as they can the weapons they need and the kurds and the saudis and kurds, god bless them. They need to bless their homeland. For us to get caught in there and bogged down is not something im for. Would you support the president s request it the way is now it is muddled. I have concerns about it. Its openended we could get bogged down. 10 10,000 troops in there, three years its over. You know well were not pulling out of there but i dont want to get caught in the there in the first plate. Do our job. Hit them hard. Secure our borders, keep them from getting in here the lone wolves and lone cells and everybody else and protect the homeland. Senator toomey ask you as a republican and one from pennsylvania what do your republican constituents think of this what do all of your constituents from pennsylvania think about the possibility of a new war . Joe i think my constituents realize what an incredible dangerous threat isis is. The savagery and bar barretty ybabar ity. My constituents want us to eliminate the threat. Do you that by insisting you have an Administration Way plan get there, get the job done and dont tie the hands of either this commander in chief or the next one who might prefer a different approach. I think you dont put artificial deadlines and dont tell your enemy what you will or wont do. You have the determination to get the job done. Ask our democratic senator, joe manchin, does the president have a clear and coherent plan to go forward to do the kind of plan pat too many you said we need to do . I dont think weve had a clear plan because basically how do you engage an enemy willing to die and think its a greater glory to die and sacrifice and were in that type of a barbaric situation, as pat said, but coming from two different angles. Strapped down ten year still in afghanistan and wont get out of afghanistan and iraq we saw what happened there. Bottom line our Strategic Forces able to make sure our air strikes and support, they have to want to fight for their homeland. We cant do that fighting for them, and we can protect america, and we can protect them from coming here but youre saying wipe them out. We never heard about isis six months ago. It was all al qaeda. First started with taliban. These people are hellbent on killing each other. Let them do it but theyre not
going to kill americans. Unfortunately, killing us too, and demonstrated a capability to do this. No question in my mind the optimal approach involves significant Ground Forces primarily consist of sunni arab countries, turkey the kurds, those people who certainly have the most immediate risk at stake. They need guidance from the United States. As you know pat, theyve sat back so long let the United States sons and daughters die, let United States taxpayers foot the bill, to keep their region a bit more secure . Why should re dowe do it again . There is an increasing willingness. The jordanians, i think, have seen how horrific and immediate this risk is for them. So i think there is an increasing resolve, and lets remember this is new for a terrorist organization like this to have created a nation state and have the resources that that gives them. Its a new magnitude of threat to those countries. I think with strong american
leadership we probably could put together a cotlagsalition that could get the job done. What we saw the jordanians engage engage, one soldier brutal barbaric and engaged that way. I hope they realize weve already given more than 6,000 american lives to try to help that region of the world. Weve already spent our treasury close to 3 trillion and doing and have committed. Now, basically if we continue down the path weve been on, we havent had good results now. There might be somebody else besides isil. We have to make sure the country, basically, where theyre breeding out of coming back to and wanting to come to america, we stop that flow and basically we have to engage. If jordan will engage that way, why wont the saudis get involved or the turks . The kurds want to fight and we should be committed to giving them the weapons and technical and tactical support they need. We appreciate both of you coming on to debate this together and we know youre
working together on a bill that involves protecting children. Can you tell us about that . Sure. Well last year alone 459 teachers and School Employees were arrested for Sexual Misconduct abusing the children theyre supposed to be taking care of. Its appalling, indefensible and part is because we have a system of background checks when we hire School Employees that has all kinds of gaping holes in it. Senator manchin and i have a bill to close those holes and make sure were doing a better job preventing schools from hiring these predators in the first place. Let me just say how pat and i came together on this. We had a teacher 20 some years ago from pennsylvania that was relieved, and they assisted him in getting a job in West Virginia. He became a principal in a school down in southern West Virginia, and he was a pedophile. We had no knowledge of that. And he was a known pedophile at the school in pennsylvania. Right. They sent a letter of
recommendation to help him get that job. They passed the trash on to us. Wa were doing basically with this bill stopping and preventing that from happening without passing someone on just for the sake of getting rid of him and that man came down and he was a padphile abused a lot of children. Killed a young boy named jeremy bell. This has pat and i together pennsylvania and West Virginia working together i think to help the whole country no child, promise the child a safe place in their life. No child should go to school and not be as safe as it can be and this bill will keep that promise. Awesome. Thank you both very much. Earlier today we talked about the sad news that cbs had to endure with the passing of course of ledge already reporter bob simon. Unfortunately sad news to report about a former member of our nbc family. Longtime correspondent ned colt whose reports were seen for
years on the today show died in boston. He reported on stories from around the world based in asia for many years. He sent the last few years working for the International Rescue committee and a u. N. Group working for refugees. A dedicated reporter ned colt was 56 years old. And he and his family are in our thoughts and prayers. Still ahead, the emotional testimony of the trial of a man accused of murdering navy s. E. A. L. Chris kyle and the text message chris kyle sent before killed the defense is using as evidence. Plus a new show coming to nbc call the the slap, sparked a provocative question. Is it ever okay to discipline someone elses kid . Nbcs kate snow joins us along with cosmos editorinchief for that conversation. Up next back to what we were talking about here. The life and legacy of legendary reporter bob simon. Et the worlds newest Energy Superpower. Surprised . In fact, america is now the worlds number one
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all right. Some really sad news. Coming off the west side highway last night. Yes. Tragic news. Bob simon, the veteran 60 minutes correspondent was killed last night. His colleague scott pelley delivered the emotional report. We have sad news tonight from within our cbs news family. Our 60 minutes colleague bob simon was killed this evening. It was a car accident in new york city. According to the nypd simon was in the back of a town car when it hit a mercedes stopped at a red light. Simons car careened into metal barriers and he was pronounced dead when he got to the hospital. But the two drivers survived. Simon led a remarkable career
working for cbs news for 47 years and 60 minutes since 1996. He covered vietnam, and was one of the last, on one of the last helicopters out of saigon. He achieved near celebrity status in israel riding a motorcycle to scenes while covering the middle east for years. He was there for the intefadeh and became close with the Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin playing tennis with him before his public assassination. In 1991 while covering the gulf war, he and his crew were taken into captivity and beaten with canes for 40 days which he wrote about in his book. We saw a jeep in a distance and it was an iraqi army jeep and they took us away. And we eventually wound up in the secret Police Headquarters called the [ speaking in Foreign Language ] and treated very badly. Yesterday they were released in baghdad, and this morning talked with ed bradley. Bob simon, producer peter bluff, cameraman Roberto Alvarez and sound man juan saldera. Changed you . Yeah. How . I dont know. Too early to tell. Simon said he was sure he would be killed if cbs executives had not lobbied Mikhail Gorbachev to intervene because simon was jewish. His last report it air before his death was on the new movie selma. He is survived by his wife and daughter who is a producer for 60 minutes herself, and father and daughter were working together on a report on ebola for this weekends 60 minutes broad cast. Bob simon was 73 years old. What are your thoughts . Theres something about the cbs family especially the 60 minutes family and these veterans that you cant really find the words to describe the kind of reporters they are and were because when you watch bob simon stories you were enrichard, you were
enchanted, charmed, you were educated. And you have to watch his stories. To understand the kind of man and the kind of reporter he was. Willie . When you look at these pictures right now, if you had to draw up in your mind the image of a foreign correspondent, its bob simon. Its him in war zones as mika pointed out in the script. Him riding his motorcycle around tel aviv. The former cbs news president and longtime 60 minutes executive producer jeff fager called him a reporters reporter, you have there and thats a good way to describe him and jeff also pointed out the added tragedy of a man who is survived so much over his career losing his life in a car on the west side highway. Its so easy. We watch this little box and we see people like bob simon all over the world in these situations and you just you take for granted they are literally putting their lives on the line every day. I didnt know him, but clearly i just a great man. And like mika said one of
the last helicopters out of saigon. A guy that covered all of these wars, all of the conflicts. Captured in iraq. Got through all of that and died on the west side highway. In a senseless accident. Our thoughts and prayers are with the simon family with jeff fager, with the 60 minutes family and the entire family of cbs news. Well be right back. What . Yoplait fridge pack. Eight cups, endless snack possibilities. Available at walmart. You drop 40 grand on a new set of wheels, then. Wham a minivan tbones you. Guess what your Insurance Company will only give you 37thousand to replace it. Depreciation they claim. How can my car depreciate before its first oil change . You ask. Maybe the better question is why do you have that Insurance Company . With Liberty Mutual new car replacement, well replace the full value of your car. See Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Music. The getaway vehicle for all the confidence you need. Td ameritrade. You got this. 29 past the hour. Time now for business before the bell with cnbcs dominic chu. What do you have . Big earning stories. Cisco opened higher in trading after the computer equipment maker reported sales that topped estimates helped along by better sales of newer products and continued demand from Companies Looking to upgrade their computer systems. Then shares of electric carmaker tesla taking a hit in the premarket. An unexpected loss. Model s sedan werent at robust due to production delays and delivery issues. Tesla expects to dlivler about 55,000 cars around the globe in 2015. Ceo elon musk says the company remarriaged on target to start
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chris kyle and his friend. Emotional testimony in the courthouse including from kyles widow. Nbc news correspondent jacob rascon has details. Reporter taya kyle fought back tears almost immediately after taking the stand. The widow of american sniper war a cross around her neck describing the last time she saw her husband alive she said we said we loved each other and gave each other a kiss and hug like we always did. Okay. Thank you. Reporter the movie american sniper depicts kyle coping with posttraumatic stress by helping other struggling veterans. In court we learned kyle and chad lilfield took the 90 mile trip many times with many struggling veterans. That day took former marine eddie ray routh. But on the way kyle texting littlefield, this dude is straight up nuts. Littlefield responded, hes right behind you. Watch my back. Taya called her husband right before he died. I could tell somebody r something was up taya said. He was just quiet. Defense attorney warren st. John. When he took their lives, he was in the grip of a psychosis. Reporter warren told the jury in that moment rouf fearth feared for his life. He was thinking they were going to take his. Reporter District Attorney amin nash. But he admits he murdered these two men, that he used drugs and alcohol that morning and that he knew what he was doing wrong. Reporter nash said routh shot kyle and littlefield in the back, in the face and elsewhere. A total of 13 rounds using two handguns. Also among the first witnesses, littlefields mother who told the jury she was testifying on what would have been her sons
38th birthday. Incredibly tragic. Joe, chance at a fair trial first of all . Is there even one . And if convicted, can there be an appeal . Actually weve been saying for some time that its hard to get a fair trial when you have the number one book in america being written by the murdered navy s. E. A. L. The american hero. The american sniper, and also when the biggest war movie in the history of American Box Office is still in theaters. Chris kyle is a hero across the nation for millions and millions of people. Especially in his home town. So even if the prosecutor gets a conviction, i expect an appeal and if you look back at history of the Supreme Court and look back at whats happened with pretrial publicity, i think theres a possibility that he could actually get an appeal and
get a new trial, because placing it here i mean jack ruby for instance. He shot lee harvey oswald. Jack ruby actually had his conviction overturned because of pretrial publicity. The most famous place, dr. Shepherd killed his pregnant wife allegedly. A lot of pretrial publicity. He also got that. This takes it to a whole new level. This really does take to a whole new level. I am surprised there wasnt a change of venue and im sure there be going to be criminal Defense Attorneys appealing this regardless. Looking ahead. Is it ever okay to discipline someone elses kid . No. Are you sure . Have you ever done it. Put it this way. If somebody disciplined my kid, spanked my kid, youd have a 64, 230 guy coming their way. Trying to think if im can i just tell you, i will tell you, i actually did have somebody grab joeys arm, and
start to twist it and i went and talked to someone close to him. Said if he ever touches my son again, its going to be a very bad day for him. I would not. Would you . I think i have but not to the level were about to cover. Nbcs kate snow will join us with her story. Well be right back. At ally bank no branches equals great rates. Its a fact. Kind of like mute buttons equal danger. That sound good . Not being on this phone call sounds good. Its not muted. Was that you jason . It was geoffrey it was jason. It couldve been brenda. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. Now you can get the works,
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variables that are probably at play, it was also a party. He was likely drinking. Reporter all these parents reacted negatively to the slap itself but the line gets fuzzier when it comes to other kinds of intervention. Is it ever okay for someone else to discipline your child . I am okay with if my child is acting up, someone in the room if im not there, saying hey, listen thats not what we do here. Reporter and she has no problem disciplining other peoples kids. Im the first one to let your kid know if your kids not doing something thats acceptable in my house. Ms. Dhenin does not play that. A medium on whats okay in touching my child. Harm or danger removing them from the situation in what physical way is necessary, yes. Reporter joey says she wouldnt have a problem if her parents or inlaws physically disciplined her kids if they
were acting out. My dad, i grew up where he if we didnt listen we listened, and when he was done. Reporter and samantha says if her baby was biting another kid shed want that other parent to jump in. I do this you can put your hands on a child to redirect forcibly redirect, take their hands off of your child. What am i supposed to do . If things get out of hand samantha, a psychologist says to look for teachable moments. The worst thing to do is to tell the child, oh my god. Youre going to be scarred for life. Youre going to be traumatized. That sort of thing. The better thing to do is you know, how did it make you feel . It made you feel upset. Why people shouldnt use their hands and thats done. All right. Were all parents here at the table. Kate two kids. What did you think about yourself . Would you . So personally after all of these conversations . I come from a background where i dont use physical discipline on my own kids. So i wouldnt want anybody else to, but heres the thing. Like wheres that line . Because we had a Birthday Party once for my now 12yearold boy,
and one kid, not my own, was getting completely out of control. No respect for parents or authority. Right. My husband stepped in and firmly said you are in my house. You listen to my rules. Thats a timeout. And i remember cringing and going oh, my god. When the parchtsents show up what are they going to say . In that case, thats far different than a slap. It is. If smubomebodys endangering, youre big enough. Grab them by the arm. Play by the rules. Youre okay with a grab not a hit . Not a just were big enough we dont have to hurt them and but im okay with like getting in their face and saying, hey, we dont do that around here. You either play well with other kids, or were going to have to put you in the other room and youre going to sit and watch tv and im calling your mom and dad and tell them what im doing. If they want to pick you up they k. Its also very effective just to say, if want to leave now, thats fine. You can go. Often youre on child might be encouraging them to behave badly because theyre excited, and also childrens parties are hell. Everybody they are. The parents are usually a bit tipsy. I often find myself wanting to slap the parents. Theres that, too. When they become teenagers, more complicated. Situations, 87 kids a lot of war stories. There have been times where a kids been acting out and you big in and find out that your child or the other child had provoked them. Yes. Which is okay. You have to be able to have the same message for all. I just think we all agree, no slap. Nothing harder than a childrens party. It take as village. It really does. I love it when other people discipline my children. Please, weigh in. Weigh in. Me too. In the march issue, what you have there. I do. A special report on Sexual Harassment in the workplace. The magazine polled. Over 2,000 full time and part time women. Some results, joanna are staggering. Tell us what you found. Interestingly, one in three women say theyve been sexually harassed an one of the things changing is that people are being harassed by social media. So people are texting inappropriately at work. One of the things women get texted seems reasonly frequently questions like from a boss or from a male colleague, can you leave a piece of your underwear on my desk . Okay. Okay, now lets see. That seems to be on the clear side of a pretty bright line. Its interesting in terms how do you deal with it . How do you respond . Does it really happen . Yes, i think it does really happen. We asked people interestingly, 10 of women said theyd been sexually has rationed by another woman. Harassed by another woman and maybe running a sales team we found they would say to some of the female staff, can you dress a bit more sexually to try and get this guys attention . Sort of weird pressures going on but their social media what i was about to say. A new way of women feeling this is an intimidating
workplace, and also it makes the Office Environment more casual. So people are sort of bantering back and forth and it spins out of control. Where its tricky. Right . There are jokes flying what i found in other places ive worked, that when jokes fly around it gets dangerous, am some find it funny, some offensive. Thats when you need to when you talk about social media, that also sort of takes the whole level of whats comfortable, whats funny, what can be done it gives it like three different platforms. And when someone is hitting on someone in the office thats harassment. Or is it . Theres that line. And emojis is also creeping into it. Emojis exactly. The smiley face . Uhhuh. Lots of you can send a lot of emojis. You can send any emoji on the face of the earth, apparently. Im glad youre not experiencing any of it heres at nbc, which is good. But i think a lot of people are feeling very anxious about how to handle it. The key thing women almost never
report it because theyre worried about being labeled a troublemaker. Somebody gets that text you were talking about what do they do . Keep a note of it. If this is persistent behavior keep a record. Keep your texts and emails. Shouldnt you go to h. R. The first time . You can. If somebody asking you to put underwear on your desk or Something Like that isnt that a time to go h. R. Can you absolutely go to h. R. Or your boss. You may find, if its your boss the h. R. Department doesnt necessarily spring to your defense. Try to nip it in the bud with a firm, this is not appropriate. If it persists keep a record of it and then go to h. R. Isnt the real danger the more subtle advances . Then, put your underwear subtle because youre not getting other people involved in it. The other thing, talk to other women in the workplace. Often you find its a serial harasser. Others say, oh my god. He did that to me, toos you have a pattern of behavior. Its easier to do that. Stay with us. Kate snow thank you. The slap. Oh my god. One of the most wellknown photographers in the world, up next taking a look at the women who have revolutionized fashion. Nigel walker joins us, next. First impressions are important. Youve got to make every second count. Banking designed for the way you live your life. So you can welcome your family home. For the first time. Chase. So you can. Ring ring progresso i cant believe im eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sisters wedding well its only 100 calories, so youll be ready for that dress uhhuh. You dont love the dress . I love my sister. 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. You just got a big bump in miles. So this is a great opportunity for an upgrade. Sound good . Great. Because youre not you youre a whole airline. And its not a ticket youre upgrading its your entire operations, from domestic to international. Which means you need help from a whole team of advisors. From workforce strategies to Tech Solutions and a thousand other things. So you call pwc. The right people to get the extraordinary done. Joining us now acclaimed fashion photographer nigel barker, host on the face on Oxygen Network and author of a new book models of influence and you look at 50 women who reset the course of fashion, models. Absolutely. I guess first of all, before we start looking at some of these incredible photos what look has withstoods test ofhe test of time and what changed . A lot of models stood the test of time. This particular moment in fashion history youre seeing i think a whole crosssection of everything that happened from the sort of 50s onwards. Little pieces of it. More so than ever. Because i think almost every other decade is has something specific, like the 80s, big hair, all about fitness. The 60s was really about someone like twiggy and sexual liberation. Show that. Theres twiggy. Beautiful page of twiggy. Gorgeous. Talk about twiggy and the simplicity of it all . Twiggy got a bit of a hard time. Too skinny too boyish. Too androgynous and she stood for womens liberation. She didnt want to be stereotyped. I dont have to have an hourglass figure or curves. I can just be myself. She was about authenticity. Luminous a very lighthearted, real english girl people loved. And supermodels from the 80s. Cindy crawford. Cindy, i mean shes a spectacular version of really what that late 80s, early 90s supermodels. The word super stuck on the word model, an intoxicating time in fashion. A super smart woman, too. When people think of models they dont necessarily always put the fact that theyre businesswomen together on the page of course she s. You mentioned cindy
crawford. The ones of my generation christie brinkley, still, incredible. Sure. Also paulina portskova . Incredible swimsuit models. Think about the decade before them. The 70s. Sex, drugs, rock n roll sort of and a bit of an edge to it. What the 80s brought in a health kick. A fitness kick. These girls did calendars. Strong. Strong women. We used to put them on the cover. The day the when models were on the cover of cosmo not actresses as we do now. They felt strong and powerful and you wanted to be them. Now theyre a bit thin white waisted, a big druggy now. Theres definitely the element. Its the people demanding whos on the cover a little more because of social media. Right . Because good point. So in a way, fashion is a mirror of society. And at that time we were craving in the 80s, craving helgt because of i guess what wed just been through. Somebody who wasnt a supermodel, somebody that didnt resort to heroin. The first time i saw her, my god, so gorgeous and still is isabella rossellini. You have her in here. A magnificent woman. Absolutely charming lady. Doing the research for the book i got to speak to many of them and talk to them about their pictures what have you. Isabella was one of those ladies who was just as gracious as she could possibly be. Shes such a major star but absolutely sort of down to earth and completely normal and absolutely lovely. Thats one of the reasons schae stood the test of time. I love working with her. I love the different age levels. Most are girls in their late teens, early 20s. This is a beautiful, wonderful
french model, businesswoman. Look at yourself . I think you nigel you and i were saying we are crushed were not in the book. We are crushed. Very disappointing. In my top 100. Very hard to get it to 50. Even worse. Thats not helping you. But i do love this book. I just want to dive into it and swim through the pages. Nigel, thank you so much joanna, thank you as well. The book is models of influence. Nigel barker. Up next what, if anything did we learn today . Push your enterprise and you can move the world. But to get from the old way to the new youll need the right it infrastructure. From a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. Hp helps business move on all the possibilities of today. And stay ready for everything that
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daughter do you and mom still have money with that broker . Dad yeah, 20 something years now. Thinking about what you want to do with your money . Daughter looking at options. What do you guys pay in fees . Dad i dont know exactly. Daughter if youre not happy do they have to pay you back . Dad it doesnt really work that way. Daughter you sure . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at charles schwab. Theyre still after me. Get to the terminal across town. Are all the green lights you . No. Its called grid iq. The 4 51 is leaving at 4 51. They cut the power. Itll fix itself. Powers back on. Quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. Thrillingly predictable. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. Welcome back to morning joe. Time to talk about what we learned today. I learned just how insulted everybody here is that you two werent in that book. Models of influence . Please. I am still crushed. Youre number one with a bullet. Thank you. A topic on the value of beauty. I learned my entertainment choices are house of cards or fifty shades of grey or possibly both. Okay. On that note busy weekend. I was not dreaming. Whats that . Dan . You found the headline. I wouldnt dreaming this. People in my house were talking about this. Claire underwood changed her hair to darker. No longer has the its a reaction. Yes, i do. Oh my god. May she felt she wouldnt be invited on the show if she still
had blonde hair. I think shes amazing. All that season saying he would wear blue pants this season. He wont be doing that now. Will he . I think not. Good call frank. Its way too early, its morning joe. Stick around though, the rundown is up next. Good morning. Nice to be with you. Im Frances Rivera in for jose diazbalart. Developing on the rundown what could be a major breakthrough in the fighting between ukraine and russia. Leaders of russia ukraine, france and germany say theyve reached a peace deal and agreed on a ceasefire set to begin at midnight local time saturday night. In addition to the ceasefire, the deal calls for heavy weapons be pulled out of the war zone for the release of all prisoners and according to president poroshenko ukrainian control of the border by the end of 2015. But at the same time we have word of that
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