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if this storm happened in the middle of winter, it would be a big deal. Not the busiest day for travel across the country. Things are looking good for i95. Not any significant snow, d. C. , new york, boston, its interior section, you will drive in heavy rain, because of volume, the airports will still have delays, it will be windy, too. It wont be like its a piece of cake. You wont be doing it back up into new york city, i95 for about a thousand miles is covered in rain right now. Snow is starting to break out in the appalachian, but look another the temperatures, it is plenty warm on i95, no issues at all with any frozen precipitation until at least this evening. Heres my new snowfall map. I have taken out accumulating
snows from d. C. To baltimore to new york. If you are forth and west, you could get a couple slushiest inches. It will be confined to the catskills, hudson valley, going up to albany, new york, i would not want to be on i97, the north way this evening, across the mass pike, especially over the berkshires, could get over an inch of snow, from portland back into maine, there are some areas that will be treacherous to travel, especially in interior new england tonight. But i95 is looking better, guys. Oh, my goodness. Thanks, phil. See you in the south of france. You and me could have a wonderful time. Or cat dundee. Oh. Acting like shes not going to be there. I have been tomkat dundee. Is that rhode island in is that below it . Southwesterly. Westerly. Did you take hostages . An uncovering situation in ferguson, officer darren is speaking out for the first time about the shooting that killed Michael Brown. Wilson says the altercation began after he asked the teenager to move out from the middle of the street. After a verbal exchange, wilson says he reached into his police car and grabbed for his gun. The officer says brown punched him in the face. Is there anything you could have done differently that would have prevented that killing from taking place . No. Nothing . No. And you are absolutely convinced when you look through your heart and your mind that if Michael Brown were white, this would have gone down in exactly the same way . Yes. No question in. No question. Something you think will always haunt you . I dont think its the haunting. Its always going to be something that happened. You are, you have a very clean conscience. The reason i have a clean conscience. I know i did my job right. Im just curious, so we have stated and i have stated repeatedly that there are two criminal Justice Systems in america. I know. Black, young men, especially, are no longer treated worse in the streets, theyre treated worse in the court systems, all the way through, but white kids get away with, black kids dont get away w. All right, so everybody agrees with that. Okay. Everybody agrees with that. Yeah. That said. If whats in the grand jury sorority true and if i stood in the middle of the street in front of that Police Officer and then ran to his car and started punching him and grabbing for his gun, does anybody presume that i would not be treated the same way . Because i will tell you, cops areeto everybody when you dont do what cops tell you to do. If thats what happened, i think its what the grand jury says. So i just, there is an element of race, but as far as this specific event and this cop goes, im just curious, discuss anybody on this panel believe that if i confronted a cop, a new york cop, lets say, Staten Island, the cop said, get out of the street and i said no and i started swearing at him, i went up, i started punching him, i started grabbing at him like the grand jury report says, if that is, fact, true, what would that Staten Island cop do . Steve, you lived in new york a while, what would a new york city cop do to me, white guy . Well, at that point in time, probably exactly what he did do, with i is to try to recover his gun. The gun went off. I think there is two other pieces to this, one is that you are a big guy, brown was a big guy, and its a little different
tan if me or catty or somebody were in a fight with a cop. I agree with that guy coming at me. Id be scared. The cop is a big guy. He is 6 4. The critical part is when brown ran away and turned back at him, thats where, of course the fatal shots were fired. Let me ask if i were running, is roland in yet . I hope you caught the first part of it. I did. We put a lot of things on the table, young black pen are treated badly, the criminal Justice System is not fair to them, et cetera, et cetera, i think we all agree with that. Im talking about as we look at this cop, and his testimony last night, George Stephanopoulis at one point said did it have to do with the color of his skin . Im 6 4, i weigh too much, im a big guy. If i come at a cop, if i go to
the car, if we believe the grand jury report, do we believe the cop would act differently towards me tan Michael Brown . Ill ask you this question, how many times have we done stories on white men who have been shot and killed by cops . I mean, we have seen im sure white pen have been killed by cops, but there is not the racial component. Follow me here, heres one of the issue s the we begin to talk about just the grand jury. You understand, though, when i say, roland, like white cop kills 6 4 white guy. Thats not the story that this is. Because there is the racial component in ferguson, which, of course, thats a horrible racial provide down there. I understand. Also i take into account the fact that Darren Wilson was at a Previous Police department that was disbanded because of various problems. Heres the other issue that jumps 0u9, Darren Wilson is offering testimony it was a given or put together six weeks
afterwards. He never did an Actual Police report right after the firsthand. So part of the problem here is that Darren Wilson had an opportunity to literally six weeks later say, well, this is what happened as opposed to right after. So part of the problem here is also how Ferguson Police investigated this particular case. Now, am i am alegend that he changed his story . Im not saying, what im saying is, we would have a different view if we got his view of what happened immediately afterwards. Right. We didnt get that. And ro roland, let me say to back that up, im not saying that he lied in front of the grand jury testimony. But you can be coached. You can be prepared. The one thing that did jump to my mind as i was reading this testimony was he kept talking about the hand on the waist band. Right. He kept repeating that, which, of course, is justification. I didnt know if he was going for a gun or not. There were eyewitnesses that said, including a little girl, that said he was charging at him like a football player. Heres the other issue. He had basketball shorts. Thats an elastic waist band. One of the witnesses said you cant, a gun can not just sit in those kind of shorts, if that kind of big guy is running, that gun will slide, supposedly he had a gun. If he is doing a full charge at you. Only for people at home who are saying why are they talking about the waist band . He kept talking about the waist band. He kept coming up, its kind of like when my kids Say Something way too much. You are giving yourself away. Heres the best one, he is punching me, he stops, he takes a cigar and tells his friends, hold these, you go at the punching. So, okay, if im punching a dude, im not going to stop and say, say, bro, hold my cigars for a second and let me go back
to punching. Again, lisa bloom did a great job of literally going through and breaking down a lot of discrepancys and how mccullough did not push back on a lot of his testimony and took it at face value. I think those of us who sit in studios on tv are trying to read a mans heart. We dont know. What we do know is what the evidence says, we dont know if hes racist, made a decision based on race. What we can ask, though, is based on the evidence, why did officer wilson do certain things . I think its fair to ask him if he had to shoot 12 times to take this man down, did he have to kill him, with the threat so great, you had to unload 12 bullets into this guy . I guess what we know from the testimony, from everybodys testimony is that there was the altercation in the street. He charged the car. There was a fight inside the car and then he ran away and he
turned back around and started chargeing at him again . Right. The question is, when he was charging at him, did he have to shoot him . Right. I guess thats what constitutes a charge, he was 100 feet away. He wasnt in his face. A couple things. The first thing is obviously there are a lot of aspects of this that are not handled well. The officer was allowed to back to his barracks, before anybody tests, takes his own gun, puts it in a pastic. They didnt have the regular prosecutor. By the way, that wouldnt happen in new york, isnt there a fatal shooting, a cop shoots somebody, everything stops, the investigators come in . Oh, yeah. The cop is not going back to the barracks . They did go to the hospital and measure his wounds. So you have real questions around how it was handled. You had cops conflicting reports. A preupon drans report in a
direction of events we have been talking about. I do honestly think if what is said is true that this cop was sitting in hills car being punched and wrestled for his gun, this huge guy runs away, turns back at you, im not sure any of us would behave completely rationally, was it elastic . Was it not elastic . How many shots should i fire . Should i aim at his knees . I will say also, should a 6 4 guy leak me is running, charging at ap co, thats a little bit different than you charging at a cop. You know . So again, were trying to get, like we said, into his head. You asked the question and George Stephanopoulis asked the question would there be any difference . This to me is key. Its very hard for us sitting here to say categoryically there would have been no difference. Thats correct. Also, maybe e members of the
black community are almost entirely saying they believe there would have been a difference. Thats almost as important. Its very important. You look at all the stats, blacks and whites get picked up for a traffic crime as often as each other, three times more often blacks will be cuffed and arrested in those circumstances than whites are. Right. They are coming at this with a history of mistrust and the thinking and the evidence is there to support them that they are unfairly targeted. So its hard for them to look at this report and say, and to believe officer wilson when he says, if Michael Browned a been white, i would have acted exactly the same way. Let me get one more story in here, for this block the Weekly Standard is drawing attention to the way president obama acted on immigration. The article notes, however, over the past few days, the white house says the president s action falls within the current law. Here is how the president addressed it yesterday while speaking in chicago. You are absolutely right that there have been significant numbers of deportations. Thats true. But what youre not paying attention to is the fact that i just took an action to change the law. Okay. So, we have weekly stand up. You can just put obama colon. This doesnt have to do with the Weekly Standard. This is barak obama the president of the United States, i see you smirking. What am i going to say . This is the moment, this is the moment in perry mason, you will remember this. I do. Where perry mason, well, madam. I killed him, i killed him, whatever, this is a moment in perry mason the defendant admits, i stole the jewelry, when the president says, i took action to change the law and seen unconstitutional. Its pretty jaring. I mean, we knew, i knew at least
he did that. I have been saying that. This wasnt about bush and reagan doing executive order based on an 86 law that Congress Passed. This is a guy who has been saying i did this because congress wouldnt act. Now hes admitted, i created a law. He proved snl right, doing all this Fact Checking on whether or not that snl skit was right or wrong . He did the executive action. I wish i could think of a snappy witty response. I dont have it at the moment. You want me to take it from bad to worse . Thats pretty bad. I want to hear from the whole panel. If it said id changed the practice of deportation, which is what he should have said. Oh my god. Ive ended the policy to change. The same thing he is saying, he just said it differently. He didnt Say Something all of us didnt know. He just said it. Water that, roland . Is this that big of a deal . Yes, it is, constitutionally, it is. Constitutionally, he can also sign an executive order. The bottom line is congress can still act harry truman also signed an executive order to desegregate the armed forces, people upset, guess what, if you dont leak it, can you go in and change the law, im not tripping on it. Pass a law, pass a bill. The Supreme Court, i dont think tail trip on it, they may say its unconstitutional. Get over him, get over it. You dont like it, pass a bill, get over it. Just pass a bill. Pass a bill. There is so clearly about the president. Lets be clear here, this is about the constitution of the United States. This is about the separation of power. This isnt about james madison, this isnt about whats happened in the past, what will happen in the future. Yes, it is. Its about an imperial presidency, president obama said himself, if the Supreme Court takes all of what the president has said and then about it being unconstitutional and adds this on top of it. Im saying practically, maybe its a big deal, maybe its not. The Supreme Court has to act. They have to rule this unconstitutional. Oh, god. Wait, wait, what makes you tired all about the constitution . You should be tired with the president with the president that is so willfully lets go to the next story. You should be tired of president obama saying its unconstitutional, then im going to do it, tan saying, i dont need corporation i will just write my own law. Well, at this point im happy for the small section of humanity that might actually get some peace out of this, if congress doesnt act. Pass a bill. Just pass a bill. Look, joes point. I get his point. No, you dont. I get so its a big point. Well get to that in a second. Okay. Joes point, it should be litigated to the United StatesSupreme Court to find out whether this is legal or not. I happen to think it is legal. I dont think what he said in chicago is like admissible efdz in the courtroom. We will find out in the fullness of time whether what he did is legal or not. Then well know. Hes had a team looking at whether its legal or not the whole time through this process. Where were they in 2011, 2012, 2013, when the constitutional law professors said it was unconstitutional if he did this. We have a Supreme Court. Its sort of why theyre there. The president came too recess appointments. So he takes some action. The court ruled. They say what, constitutional. They say a former care act. Constitutional. Okay, so he took the action. Thats why theyre there, earn
your paycheck. Rule on it. So what, well see what the court says, then as ike said on this show, the republicans have to pass a bill. So we can go through watching the courts do this or have the republicans pass a bill and avoid everything. If the Supreme Court is just some hobby that we picked up, a constitutional republic. The emotions of this before the Republican Party just pushing everything to try to bring everything down the president is trying to do, im not going on some sort of tear, depending on the president. They have an opportunity to get something done. They have an opportunity to get something done, to function. Thats in this coffee mug. This is legislation. Thats great, pass a bill. They have this coffee mug, this is unconstitutional. This is a Supreme Court stop, this is congress job. I get it. Can i remind you, Congress Passed the feingold, even when
the Congress Passes law the Supreme Court still rules on it. Its a cause, because the Supreme Court rules on what congress does, whether its constitutional or not. No. And they rule on what the president does whether its constitutional or not. Yes. So if you take action he is acting like there is a job. We are not arguing this. You are. We go to chicago and somebody says i changed the law, necessarily means this is more than semantics, it could mean he made a mistake, he could have said, change the pennsylvania we have to leave it to lawyers as to whether he misspoke. Whats the story you want to get to . I just want time, still ahead, congressman emmanuel cleaveer joins us we are action in his state and al michaels and justin long join us, ahead, taylor swifts career is soaring to new heights. There is one legendary singer who is not a fan. Huh . You are watching morning joe,
well be right back. Its time for the morning its happy thanksgiving. Should i take the blame . You should. Sometimes people have a difference of opinion. We are here to state it. I feel bad. I feel really bad. Do you want me to take this one while you work through it . Hes learning. Its kind of a slow learner. Ill repeat. The constitution, it just doesnt matter. Is that what im supposed to learn . On the front of the New York Times, eight held in yemen, a
Daring Rescue, it happened by al qaedas affiliate, more than 20,000 commandos hiked across the border along highly trained yemeni troops. They surprised the militants, several were killed in a shootout t. Hostages include six yemenis. The mission was seen to shake up the allies in yemen. Apple hit a market value of more than 702 billion. No other American Company has reached that height. The larger size iphones are driving Investor Confidence along with the companys new digital experiments using apple pay. Apple has about 1. 7 times of the second Biggest Country in the world exxon mobile. Verizon is ruling out its own holiday, something they are branding connection day. Travels will be treated to free wifi at several airports across the country. Really, thank you so much for something that you shouldnt be charging us for anyway. They will get access to Free Internet, in the air as well, oh, my, verizon is teaming up with amazon to give away discounted apps. With condenast, its so self serving. Really, we are creating day for you, so we can advertise and get you to boy stuff. We will give you something free that we charge uri dig lus prices for that we have anyway in our airports for ourselves. Right . It doesnt matter. Good lord. It doesnt matter. Connection day, ill give you a connection day. Oh, my god. Thats not what i would call a connection day. I do agree, wifi should be an option, its everywhere. Its everywhere, really. Rolling stone magazine, did
you hear the story . Yes. Taylor swift is getting a lot of attention, Joanie Mitchell says i squelched that, adding, i said to the producer, all you got is a girl with high cheek bones. Thats just really not true at all. Shes a rock n roll hall of famer, the material was filled with fawn sense, gossip and assumption. I understand the second part of that. I think her big quibble is the actual movie. She threw in there the only thing she had going for her was taylor swift. The high cheek bones and also a girl with high cheek bones who happens to be one of the more transformative figures in popular culture. An act tres, i dont know, we havent heard her play a role. Shes talented. She is one of the more
transformative figures in music in a long time. Maybe the script is really bad. Yeah, exactly. It sound like it was. Dont attack me. I didnt say anything that will get me attacked . Lets try this one, after a Seattle Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch was fined 100,000 for not speaking with the media, Richard Sherman defended lynch by mocking some of the nfl policies they say are hypocritical. What . It seems leak were in a league where they say, players, you dont endorse any alcohol, please dont endorse alcohol, duis, please, a beer sponsor is their biggest sponsor . It sound very hypocritical. Its fun not to use your time in the nfl to speak about something you speak about, right . You dont get fined at all for this . This is how they want us to talk, right, they want us to advertise, right, doug . Sounds about right to me. All right. Got to make some. Got to not get fined. Anybody got any questions . Nope, i dont think so. All right. Have a good day. Wow. It was a funny. Richard sherman, man the guy mixes it up, mixes it up. Kind of cool. Coming up, not sure what to give your loved ones for the holidays, im all organized. Are you ready . I got it all done. For a limited time only, you request pick up your very own copy of obamacare at ap shoing mall near you. Im getting you that joke. That story plus the very tough criticism of obamacare from an unexpected source we will explain later. G . Goej÷c÷c
all right. Its a little secret the midterms went badly for democrats, particularly in the senate. And this is the schumer story, i promise you. Yesterday at the National Press club, in order to win in the future, democrats have to make themselves in the progovernment
party and show people government can work. But he went a step further, suggesting democrats went on the wrong path when they began focusing so intently on health care after implementing the stimulus. Unfortunately, democrats blew the opportunity the American People gave them. We took their pan date and put all of our focus on the wrong problem. Health care reform. Now, the plight of uninsured americans and the hardships caused by unfair insurance practices certainly needed to be addressed, but it wasnt the change we were hired to make. Americans were crying out for the end to the recession, for better wages and more jobs, not changes in health care. The Affordable Care act was aimed at the 36 million americans who were not covered. Its been reported a third of the uninsured are even registered to vote. In 2010 only about 40 of those
registered voted. So even if the uninsured kept with the rate, which they likely do, you would still only be talking about 5 of the electorate. Its a huge change in mandate for such a small percent annual of the electorate made no political sense. So when democrats focused on health care, the average middle class person to the, the democrats are not paying enough attention to me. Funny, he is saying what you were saying then. Yeah. And back then he was defend shopping obamacare. Im almost positive. That will be one of the great mystery, steve that, the president really did in the first term, he had an extraordinary mandate if 2008. He pretty much bet it on the health care, the 18month health care battle. Yeah, the president believed that you get the most done in the first couple years of your
first term and after that, it tends to tail off. And he wanted to have, a defining signature piece of legislation, which Chuck Schumer was my friend, i was a finance chair in 1998. Theyre saying it should have been about the middle class. Remember bob for jobs . He did push that, he did support the push for Health Care Reform at the time. Yes, because chuck is a good member of his leadership and others party. He did what his president wanted him to do. Now i think in the after math of this election, you are starting to hear other views. Its quickly who joined the course, Elizabeth Warren agreed to for schierm, there was an urgent need in 2010 for middle class families struggling to get by, more should get done. She was doing a lot of that, too. A lot of second guessing by democrats who are obviously very supportive, of the president s efforts. You think its monday morning quarterback shopping or do they
have a point . No, i actually i think what we are doing is we are focusing on really the wrong thing, schumer talked about, we have to make the argument moving forward in terms of how government matters. That literally is the exact same speech senator Elizabeth Warren gave to the center for american progress. I was there for it. So schumer will have his eye sit on the majority leader. Trust me. He sees a threat. Not in the center, Elizabeth Warren as an ad advisor, a consultant, whatever the harrisburg you want to call it. You can tell he is trying to sell a populous message especially when hes the center for wall street. Its real clear what he is doing right here. Its slick, but its clear. Except that two years ago, three years ago, now he wrote a book about the importance of the middle class. I dont think chuck is new to this party. He wasnt saying it. And he wasnt driving that message. He wasnt lead tack message. Again, he has a somewhat on his
flank pose a threat who knows how to charge up the base as all of a sudden its, oh, lets go beyond the issue of health care. He understands that she is going to be a force over the next two years and he has to recalibrate his message, otherwise, he looks out of date. Lets check in with mike alan, the chief white house correspondent, he has to look at the morning playbook, good morning. Good morning. So Chuck Schumer is not the only democrat upset with the strategy in 2014. What else do have you here . Its getting crowded, the virginia governor, terry mcauliffe, one of the partys last swing state governors, a Democratic NationalParty Chairman and friend of bill and hillary, he is saying that democrats made a huge mistake in this election with no message about jobs, very similar to senator schumers criticism of the earlier failure to focus on jobs. Its interesting about what governor mcauliffe said is that
it echos a point that bill clinton made at a playbook event down at his Library Anniversary that the democrats should have had a National Advertising campaign, some sort of National Message about what you get from democrats and hes been calling his fellow democratic governor 16 so far to say that democrats need a real retool and fast. Mcauliffe said what was the message of 14 im ask shopping retorically. The next stage of obamacare taking it to the shopping malls, explain. Thats right. This is a big change from the last obamacare open period when the president was on between two ferns. Now theyre out in the malls in making Information Available in the malls, also online, if you go to the knot the bump, so its a lower key more practical way
to try to get people to reup or to join. All right, mike alan, thank you so much. Happy thafg. Up next, after the grand jury decision in ferguson, sent shock waves throughout the country, where do things go from here . Nbc justice correspondent Pete Williams joins us. We are back in a moment. holiday music is playing hey i guess were going to need a new santa the music builds to a climax. more people are coming to audi than ever before. See why now is the best time. Audi will cover your first months payment on select models at the season of audi sales event. Visit audioffers. Com today. Just take a closer look. It works how you want to work. With a Fidelity Investment professional. Or managing your investments on your own. Helping you find new ways to plan for retirement. And save on taxes where you can. So you can invest in the life that you want today. Tap into the full power of your fidelity greenline. Call or come in today for a free oneonone review. How can in china,sumption a free oneonone review. Impact wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u. S. . At t. Rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. Its just one reason over 70 of our mutual funds beat their 10year lipper average. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. Request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. A secure retirement. A new home. Earning your diploma. Providing for your family. Real associates, using walmarts benefits to build better lives for their families. Opportunity. Thats the real walmart. Joining us now from walk, nbc news justice correspondent Pete Williams. Pete, good to have you on the show this morning. Lets talk about the grand jury process. Pete, we have been hearing over the past 24 hours, this one was
different than most others. And why . True or false . Well, no question about that. Normally in a grand jury, what the prosecutor does is show the evidence to the grand jury that would make a criminal case. The prosecutor says, heres what i could do. Here is the law. Here is the evidence. What do you think . Yes or no . Should we prosecute . This one was different the prosecutor by his own statement said i want to do this differently, i want the grand jury to see all the evidence thats helpful to this state. What is that, pete . What was the justification for that . Especially a case as racially sensitive as this one . What he said was because this case is different, because he wants it to be transparent, because he wants the grand jury to see everything, in other words, the importance of the case to the community justified this different approach, this unusual circumstance, knowing how much was at stake. The problem is, thats not the way most grand juries are conducted around the country. Of course, its not the way they are conducted in that county. Now, in that county, you dont have to take every case to the grand jury. They take about half of them that way. I can guarantee you they dont do this in routine cases and thats whats led to the criticism. Because they wanted there was such interest, didnt it actually do the opposite of what he was saying it intended it to do . Didnt it actually build up more curiosity, even more stress, even more, quite frankly, criticism for the system . Didnt it make people more angry . Didnt it look like they wanted to make sure they protected what they were planning on doing . Reporter well, thats certainly the point that the brown family is making here, in essence, they say the prosecutor led the grand jury to this conclusion by giving them the evidence on both sides, by letting them hear from officer wilson. Thats unusual. Targets of grand juries dont normally testify and remember, its all only just the prosecutors, the defense lawyers dont come in, but still it
wasnt a real crossexamine you could say. For all those reasons, there are questions about the grand jury. The fact that all the grand jury material was released now cuts two ways. On the one hand, it could help the family, they can see all the evidence. If they decide to file a wrongful death lawsuit, which seems very possible here. On the other hand, if the Justice Department is going to pursue its own case, thats a tall order. We can talk about that. But if they do, that means that all the potential witnesses now have seen all the other potential witnesses have said. I talked to one former prosecutor who has brought these cases before. He said thats not something they would normally like to see. The protectors down in ferguson, some are saying the reason we are out on the streets and some have resorted to violence in ferguson is because they feel they no longer have recourse, they have reached the end of the official road. Are they right in thinking that . Reporter well, not, not
entirely. And there are id say three reasons why. No. 1, there is still the prospect of a Justice Department civil rights prosecution against officer wilson. The Justice Department is still pursuing that. They will hear the evidence and try hard as they can to see the case. Its a tall order. Under the law, they will have to prove officer wilson acted with force, knowing it was wrong. In essence, they would have to try i to prove he was not in fear for his life. That would be a difficult thing to do. Secondly the family can file a wrongful death suit. In a criminal case, preponderance of the evidence, more likely than no. Thats what the standard would be. Thirdly, i think, institutionally, if they are concerned how the Police Department and the county conducts itself, there is the prospect of change here t. Justice department is also investigating the department, itself. And very often the government will enter into consent decrees with Police Departments saying we will sue you unless you do this. If the county says no, it goes to court the court can order it to make changes, that does seem very likely evident. Nbcs Pete Williams, thank you very much. Have a good thanksgiving. Coming up, a thanksgiving treat for our viewers at home. We will count calories. What . Oh my lord. Calorie charts. Steves fat chart. What . Let us be lovers, well marry our fortunes together ive got some real estate here in my bag it took me four days to hitchhike from saginaw ive come to look for america hey guys. Guys pillsbury cinnamon rolls, with cinnabon cinnamon, are an irresistable sunday morning idea. Nothing calls them to the table faster. Make breakfast pop they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. For respawn, building the best Interactive Entertainment begins with the cloud. This is titanfall, the first multiplayer game built
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once show up at a White House Party with a cleaver to administer the justice these birds so clearly deserve. Pretty good, steve radner, you have been looking at your charts, your diagram, data. Slide rule. Slide rule. One of the impacts of obamacare, particularly when it comes to how we eat and how much we eat. We must eat so well as americans. What do we do . First of all, im not going to take the joy out of thanksgiving. You may lose a little joy of some of the rest of what you do. So there was a little known piece of obamacare that mandated calorie counts for restaurants with 20 or more establishments. They came out yesterday, after years of fighting, by the fda. What is interest shopping, is the difference between what people think is the number of calories in what they eat and what is actually the amount of camrys in what they eat. So lets take a look at that. This is from a study that was done in a medical journal. You can see in the upper right the blue are the estimated calories. If i say, joe, how many calories in a turkey sandwich, you will say . 300. 350, good, actually, its 370. You were close, if i say how many calories in a chef salad . I would guess 300. 350. Most say 450 t. Real answer is 920. Cease salads are not as good as you think it is. Its all the stuff they put in. When you get into hamburger and fries, you will raise your estimates to. 300. 1240. Holy cow. Fettuccini alfredo and chicken fujitas. I would thought 1,600. Oh my i thought it was good tore you. All of this is up against your daily recommended limit of 2,000 camrys. So few have the cheese fries with ranch dressings. Thats it for a day. 3,000 camrys, half of your camr calories. Half your calories are gone. We went out three years ago in a friendlys, they made the mistake of putting the calories on the im a big guy, they were so high, we got up and left. I couldnt eat anything on the menu. And i thought since then, its unfair to friendlys, because i bet every menu in america would look like that. A, thats why it took three years to get these out. Its been not. In new york, we had these for a long time. You go into these restaurants, you see the numbers, it blows your mind. I had my 8yearold girl daughter growing like this, like a bean pole, she is calorie
counting. Wrong people calorie counting. Calories, not energy, the wrong people are reading calories. Still ahead that chicken fujita. The way i make them, theyre healthy. Chickenp questions adillas. He keeps trying to keep out. The news that may make mitt romney consider a third run for the oval office. We are back . Just a moment. Adilla. Its going to be fantastic, gosh, zip right there doortodoor. Do have you the relatives coming down . Everybody is local, but the roads will be bad enough tonight, tomorrow morning. It will be sloppy. Are you going to along in the city . Yeah, we will stay in the tristate area. Everything has been driving there. Deed ra is coming down from new york to d. C. , my son is coming back from college from richard. My babies will be home. Oh. The yacht, or what are you
thinking this time . All right, mica. Helicopters. Thats the life. I am in my car, i am driving myself to west chester. No you are not in. Yes, i am. I am driving myself to west chester. Dont do that. You havent dramp car in 30 years. Donny deutsche, i am not donny deutsche. You mentioned driving . Yeah. Thats another one on the road. Donny would be shocked. Donny has been in st. Barts for a week. The leadup. But the winter storm thats expected to pound the northeast could bring trouble to millions of travelers this thanksgiving holiday starting in just about a few hours. An estimated 4 as to 6 Million People are exheaded out of town. Travelers who plan to drive to their holiday destinations are likely to have a lot of company
from those taking advantage of low gas prices. Meantime, airlines have already cancelled more than 200 flights in anticipation of the storm, almost half of those are just at two airports, laguardia and new york. Terrific. But its a different story on the rails. Amtrak says it will try and power through the storms. We will get the latest forecast from bill kierans coming up in just a moment. So well watch for that storm coming. Turning now to the situation in ferguson, officer Darren Wilson is speaking out for the first time about the shoot tag killed Michael Brown, wilson says the altercation began after he asked the teenager to move out from middle of the street. After the verbal exchange, he says he reached into the police car and grabbed for the officers gun, during the struggle, brown says the officer punched him in the face. Is there anything you could have done differently that would have prevented that kill shopping from taking place . No. Nothing . No. Are you absolutely convinced when you look through your heart and your mind that if Michael Brown were white, this would have gone down if exactly the same way . Yes. No question . No question. Is it something you think that will all the haunt you . I dont think its a haunting. Its always going to be something that happened. You are, you have a very clean conscience . The reason i have a clean conscience is i know i did my job right. The interview not a very emotional interrue, was it . Does it make anybody feel more like this is what makes sense over the last 24 hours . I think the way he walked through every step of what happened, he seemed to have pretty clear recall of the events and thats what three months ago. Yet he still seems to remember, this happened in this sequence. I thought he came across, hes
been, you know, this guy has been demonized in many areas of the press and demonized by people down in ferguson, actually, i thought he came across as fairly calm and checked and not as demonic in the course of that interview. Now that doesnt negate the fact that it might not have happened the way he remembers. There are other witnesses all way he is describing, there are other witness accounts that suggest it happened. It doesnt really negate the fact that when he says it would have been exactly the same if Michael Brown were white. Im less sure about that. Im not sure i read too much into it. I would be shocked if he were not well prepared by that interview by the lawyer. Le still has that exposure him he would have been well prepared, a lot of mock questions, a lot of mock answers and he would have been he was a credible interviewee . Yes, yes, i agree with that. I think this interview, like everything in this case, depending on your point of view,
you see two different things, some people who dont like officer wilson saw somebody who was cold, didnt show enough emotion or remorse for what they wanted to see. On the other side, they saw an officer who he said was doing his job. So i dont think, in this case, like everything elts in ferguson, were all going to agree on one thing. We can agree, tow that, the makeup of the Police Department and just the system, itself and even some of the officials involved, if this officer is completely clean and if he didnt do what he says he didnt do, the system was set up to fail him. Because it was so flawed that millions of people are going to have a hard time ever believing him. Joining us now from atlanta, law policy at law professor. You work where youth and urban communities, first, what do you make of the interview with officer wilson and do you feel he answered to some of the
really screening questions out there in terms of race and how he treated Michael Brown right before his death . I found officer wilsons interview to be quite disturbing, to be honest. He stated that he could not have done anything differently, but if you consider you have an unarmed teen walking, jaywalking in the street with a handful of cigarellos that ends up on the floor in a pool of blood dead, clearly, he could have done something differently. I find it disturbing he seems to have little remorse. There is a lot of a child another life, he seemed almost stoic with respect to his response. What could he have done differently that day . Well, part of the problem is what the tragic death of Michael Brown represents is the practice of using adult policing practices on youth. Currently here in the united
states, very few Police Departments actually include training on being a youth developmental conference, how do you deescalate a situation from jaywalk shopping to keep it from escalating to the point of murder. You say you, hes 18, 6 4 itse4 , actually if the testimony is correct, charged into the Police Officers car and started punch shopping, i had the conversation around the table here if i, a 6 4 man did that in any community in america, chances are good a Police Officer would grab his or her gun, is that not fair to say . I think thats an interest shopping point that youve made, however, yes, he was 6 4 and 18, but developmentally, his mind was that of a teenager and based on studies that have been done in research in the area, teenagers are slow tore respond
to Police Commands and so there are still things that officer wilson could have done as the adult in the situation again to deescalate the situation from the jaywalking into a more peaceful outcome. He could have adjusted his behavior, luongo and timing. You say that i make an interesting point. I wonder if you think it is the case, in fact. Really . Lets say in a traffic stop, i get out of the car and charged at a cop, i think because, again, im 6 4, of course, much older, i find it hard to believe there is not a cop in america that wouldnt consider taking very aggressive actions against me to put me down. I think that a cop, a Police Officer would want to take aggressive action against you under shows circumstances, again, had officer wilson had training, it wouldnt have gotten to the level of Michael Brown charging him. Thats allegedly charging him. He would have been able again to transition from a jaywalking violation to perhaps a more peaceful arrest. I still think the lack of training amongst yoourkts i have to be quite frank with you, there is unconscious bias. He described Michael Brownsifies i face looking like a demon. Would he have described you as looking like a demon. If anybody has seen me charging at them, they would say, yes, i look like a crazy to neils point, its absolutely right, there are unconscious biases, its incredibly hard for us to get to the bottom of what officer wilson was thinking. I will say this, obviously, im suggesting that, i said it all morning, that there is, if you got a 6 4 white guy coming at a cop, you may get the same reaction. I will say the point. I would focus on her is the
training and the question, how does a jaywalking incident turn into an 18yearold being shot dead and left in the streets for fourandahalf hours. What department does that . And that would nerve happen to a white child. Ever. You are talking about stay shopping in the streets before. Im sorry. As far as the shooting goes, you can understand, once it escalates. I can at least understand, once it escalated, why that happened . It would have happened to me or you, womanly, as a 6 4 guys, also to Michael Browns state of mind, why he was so angry towards the police force that is 95 white and probably has not been seen as helpful through the years. You cant put this in a vacuum. Dr. Mcneil, if we gain this out, what should have happened . Officer wilson pulls up, he sees
two young men, asks them to step aside what would have been a more positive outcome in this situation . Yes, first what officer wilson should have done, Michael Brown was walking with his friends, she should have separated them, simply because teenagers tend to want to perform or behave differently when they are in front of their friends do you to peer pressure. He could have pulled him to the side and had a conversation with him. Opposed to again, i wasnt there, thats one thing she should have done differently, been careful, had he had the training, he would have understood africanamerican cultural queues, meaning understand if we are talking with our hands or a lot of passion, its not an act of aggression. Its a kuhn indication style. Again, there are several things he could have done with his language, slow shopping his language, not being confront of theational, separate shopping
him from his friend. Dr. Mcneil, thank you for be shopping on the show this morning. A Quinnipiac University poll reenforces a narrative, many are hungry for mitt romney to make a thorough. I thought you were going to Say Somethingifies about Chris Christie. I would like to. You just said it we havent been so nice to him. We have. A poll just out this morning shows romney ahead by 8 points. Wow. When he factored out jeb bush narrowly leads Chris Christie and dr. Ben carson is right up there. A poll shows romney with a bigger lead, 19 points in new hampshire. Remember his navrp speech. It was good. When factored out, the top of the field looks much the same. There is carson again. Can i just say right now, that isnt happening. You guys send me your nasty
tweets. That aint happening, ron palm, every four years, might get nasty tweets. That aint happening with ben carson. So i had a Top Republican strategist call me, we are think its cute, you are obviously rye shopping to get into his good graces because you were mean to him if 2012. I said i was mean to him in 2012. Im telling you how i feel as a registered republican, as a political analyst, how i foley looking at the entire field that even jeb bush looks, i want to be careful with the word i use here, mitt rom filooks more i think. Right for the time. I think more right for the time. Also, really, more prepared in a way. Mitt romney has run a couple national campaigns. Jeb bush hasnt run for anything in ten years. I think romney has a great narrative to say how he was right, it was russia, whether its this, its that. I think he would be incredibly appealing if he got back out there. We saw him a little from the inside, getting to know anne and the family over the past eight years and i think our indistinct is if he had a really effective team, because theyre really good people. They are good people. They got packaged terribly. Lets be really blunt, though, in 2012, they vote. We are very brittle on the cane trail. Brittle is the word to use. I dont think they were ready for it. I think four years later, if it happens, i think they are ready for it. I think theyre more prepared for what we went through. You look at those numbers. I see the Republican Party is desperate to have a candidate. They need to start focusing on somebody, theyre up against democrats who have a candidate. They need to want to be in a
similar position. I look at those numbers and say, are we forgetting what a bad candidate mitt romney was . He was a terrible president ial candidate. It was not that his ideas were bad, its not that his policies were wrong, he came across as a bad candidate time and again. The question is. Fe has to have really improved to run a viable candidate. The question is, though, did he learn from his mistakes . And that we dont know. Can you not test that until he is back out in that High Pressure situation again, right . What does it say about the field that we are talking about mitt romney again . It says more about the field, probably, than it does about mitt romney. Its almost too late at this point for there to be some dark horse candidate, some 2007 barak obama to ride in and save the Republican Party if jeb doesnt run, who is your front runner . If jeb bush doesnt run himlet say if jeb doesnt run . Chris christie . Nobody. No, it is Chris Christie. A name thats not on that. I dont think so, the fact that we are struggling may answer that question. You look at 2012, the republicans had a chance of winning that, unemployment is sock shopping, the country was in a desperate way economically. That was a republican that came in with a viable message. If they were a better candidate, they might have won that election. All right. We have to get to the weather now, bill kierans, update us on the big storm about to hit the east coast. Just in time for everybody getting to the thanksgiving holiday. I added it up, a thousand miles you can drive on i95. You need the wiper the entire time from new york city down to north florida t. Airports, though, are do shopping all right. Rain is 100 times better than ice and snow and right now, no delays reported from dulles to baltimore, obviously, the volume will be increasing dramatically. So far so good. Notice the white on the map, the snow is break shopping out in the high country, west virginia,
virginia, also now into central pennsylvania. Thats where the roads will get treacherous. Temperatures are plenty warm. All of the roads will remain wet from i95, southern new england southward, across much of pennsylvania. Once you get to central p. A. Around state college, thats where we will brick out with the snow shortly t. Blue on this map is the snow, notice its north of i95. By noon, heavy snow in albany, by 5 00 p. M. , the worst will be up into new england, by 11 00 p. M. , the overflow of everyone. The worst of it will definitely be northeastern sections of pennsylvania, all into the catskills, albany area, as we track it back up into central and Northern New England, its taken out all of the accumulating snows. I dont think we will see much of anything in new york city, philly, baltimore, d. C. And even boston now. Maybe only an inch or two. The big city, its good. All right, phil, thank you very much. We wont hold it against you. Still ahead on morning joe, missouri congressman is our guest. Plus, legendary sportscaster al michaels and actor justin long will be here. First, big changes coming to the nations capital. We are not talking about the senate. Then democrats think they have the inside track to put in the first woman in the white house. But one high profile republican woman is now considering a run. You are watching morning joe. Well be right back. Will that be all, sir . Thank you. Ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. I order b14. I get b14. No surprises. Buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a Roller CoasterWhite Knuckle thrill ride. Youre promised one speed. But do you consistently get it . You do with comcast business. And often even more. Its reliable. Just like kung pao fish. Thank you, ping. Reliably fast internet starts at 89. 95 a month. Comcast business. Built for business. Okay, the wall street journal on the streets of hong kong is bren as new clashes erupted when police moved to clear major roads occupied by
protesters. Dozens of people were arrested, among them, 18yearold joshua wong, a student leader who has become the face of the demonstrations. The aggressive push by the government comes by a recent court order to clear the side occupied by september by those calling for free elections. The washington post, a white house official says millions of undocumented workers impacted by the president s executive order will be eligible for federal benefits, notably, Social Security and medicare. Under federal law, people who pay tacks are quote lawfully present in the United States, ka check benefits, including disability. They will not, however, be eligible for Student Financial aid, food stamps or Health Insurance due to the obamacare exchange. Also in the washington post, Carley Fiorina is thinking of a run. She has plans to visit iowa and famp. The post says she is
recruiting campaign staffers. While she would draw a distinction as a female business leaders, the post points out she still owes a half a million to consultantings and staffs from her failed u. S. Senate run in california back in 2010. From right irs first emirates airline, now sony is not honor shopping its sponsorship wi fif has to secure the 2018 tournament for russia and qatar, in 2022. Robert griffin, iii, will be side lined for the game sunday, instead the redskins will go with colton mccoy. While he is out of the job for now, they say he remains in the organizations future plans, but it does not bode well for rgiii. Coming up, why senator rand palm says it is the politicians to blame for events in ferguson. His reasoning on that ahead on morning joe. Joining us now from kansas city, representative from missouri, congressman emanuel dreger, the president and the ceo of the aspen institute, good to have you on board, congressman, good to have you as well, i guess looking at it a day or two later now, looking back on what happened in ferguson, where do you come down on how the system played out . Well, i think, we saw a monumental blunder. I dont think that there was a great intentionality. But for sure things were done in a the way does not make sense. I mean, we had a buildup to the first night and we will release a statement at 8 00 and so forth. Look, im not an attorney, but i
would imagine that the grand jury completed it work earlier in the day, or the day before, so the press conference to announce what the grand jurys decision was could have been done at 8 00 a. M. In the morning or at 10 00 a. M. Its almost like we will build this cre slen do and watch the explosion. It said if people are in the street, its simmer shopping. Its a buildup. You can tell something really bad is going to happen. Congressman, we were talking about this yesterday, it didnt make any sense to have that buildup. Another thing that doesnt make a lot of sense for black Small Business owners in ferguson and i read this in the New York Times this morning, a lot of black Small Business owners feel like they were abandoned by authorities, who have been tell shopping them for weeks now, dont worry, were going to
protect you. We protect your businesses. We will make sure that it doesnt happen again like it did in august. And a lot of Small Business owners, black Small Business owners in this community, feel like authorities abandoned them by not being tougher on the demonstrators and protect shopping their Small Businesses. Do they have a fair point . Absolutely. I was in ferguson last week and you could see that while in the middle of all of this chaos, there were Business People who were there holding as tightly as possible to hope that things would not be as they were in august. And the one thing that i think, i hope you would understand and that to blow up a building to fire bomb a building, to debt fate a community, there is no intelligence required, no charisma, all he has to do is be
stupid. Those are the people that did, probably 50 people out of that crowd were out doing stupid things, people were saying, lets boycott. Hook, what we ought to do is get every decent person going into ferguson to boy, that town had income revenue from traffic tickets, so we got to, you know, think this thing through. A lot of people say lets boycott, they will further damage Small Business people who are the backbone of ferguson, missouri. Congressman cleaver, its willie geist. Its good to see you this morning. In the after math of any national crisis, like this, it seems its cliche, there is a teachable moment. We should have a moment thats productive. What would you like to see come out of this . What should the country be talking about . What should we learn from this . Well, i think, if we get nothing out of it as we have done in the past with the
situation with Trayvon Martin and others, i think that we ought to be nationally ashamed of our sales, to go through something as chaotic as this without getting something out of it. First of all, fortunately, congress cant offer too much in the way of help because what are we going to say to the demonstrators . Look at us, why dont you conduct yourself like members of congress when are you in a tough situation . Right. But i do think that some National Legislation otocome out of this, congressman clay and i would do something next week. I would think on this prethanksgiving day that its not a republican or a democratic issue. We otopass National Legislation that will create, i think, a positive atmosphere after this thing is over, that is, that Police Officers, Law Enforcement officers, must wear cameras and
that as we did years ago with the cops program, we would make federal grants available to small communities that cant afford to have these cameras. I think it will probably prevent some hood lums from acting crazy and probably some Police Officers who might not be psychologically equipped to be Police Officers. I think its a protective for all. All right, congressman, thank you so much. We certainly agree on that point. Walter, everybody is always talking about when they have more frank, more blunt discussion on race. I cant help but think this entire episode is pardon the line more, coarseens the debate even more. Its important to understand, a lot of feel shopping in the inner cities, a lot of blacks have, police are an alien force there. That to me is the issue. Not picking apart everything
thats happened in this incident. So i look at what mayor nuter is doing in philadelphia and Mitch Landers is do shopping in new orleans, going into the communities, trying to make the police force feel ben Deshawn Franklin cleared the first police force. It was like a night watch cons stable core for philadelphia. It was supposed to be neighbors looking out for neighbors, i think the police feel if the police are an alien force in their community, you will not solve the problem. Heres what senator rand paul writes in time in the search for culpability for the tragedy in ferguson, i mostly blame politicians. Browns death and the suffocation of eric garner in new york for sell shopping untaxed cigarettes, indicate something is wrong with criminal justice in america. The war on drug has created a culture of violence and put police in a nearly impossible situation. In ferguson the precipitating crime was not drugs, but theft. But the war on drug has created a sex in some communities that
too often results in tragedy. One need only witness the baby in georgia who had a concussive grenade explode in her face during a latenight, noknock drug raid, if which no drugs were found to understand the feelings of many minorities, the feeling that they are being unfairly targeted. You know, senator paul has been talking about scaling back on the war on drug. Its something he has been on about. Its interesting he connects it to this. It does create an entire culture, you know, both in the evener cities, but also between the police and young black males, thats not something thats sustainable. We have to attack the real problem, which is its really tough grow shopping up as a black male in the cities of this country. You are going to get killed. You will get killed by people in your own community. You dont feel the cops are there to protect you. The cops should be black, too. The cops should always feel like theyre a part of the community. Whatever color. They represent the community. You know, i have a friend who has one black son, one white son. He lives in portland, oregon. Interesting. They have a high rate of black men being killed by Police Officers, he says, when his kids go out, he doesnt worry about his white son. He worries about his black son. They are brothers, they live in the same neighborhood, yet his concern is for his black son. And whether or not thats totally reasonable, it is a full fledged perception across this country and its hard to tackle that. But its not impossible to tackle that. I mean, if people in, you know, various good mayors are doing it. I can see president obama going to a church somewhere in st. Louis in the next couple of weeks and giving a long talk about how we have to restore a sense that the communities are safe. And it starts with the Police Departments recognized shopping they have a problem. All right remember walter isaacson, stay with us if you can. Coming up, bridgegate looks
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raise 14u6789 million for some governors, turn some states red from blue. On the other hand, hes not so great at govern fans. Whats wrong with the state finances . Theyre in weak shape. He has preside over six downgrades, i used to wok for poodies, moodys, standards and poors have downgraded. There are substantial pension liabilities increasing. They rank bottom out of 50 states in terms of the pension contribution. So 28 only. Im not good at math. Those numbers sound a little questionable. Christies whole schtick is he is a great manager and leader, right, he has done great things in the state of new jersey, taking on the Teachers Unions, thats what hes always talking about. He is fantastic at retorical flourish. He attacked the credit agencies rather than govern shopping. To what extent was taking on the Teachers Union a cause of this financial problem or a
solution to it . I mean, he tried to portray it as a solution. Were talking about his budget director was making incredibly unrealistic assumptions, growth rate. We will be lucky if we get 2 to 3 bucket growth reads. This is unrealistic. So there is substantial billion dollar budget gaps. Wow. Are the ratings actions being overly aggressive or is Chris Christie so bad . He is trying to make that claim. If you read the piece, i get into a more technical drive. We can talk about those. The numbers speak for themselves. So he goes and attacks those at home and which is his trademark style. If you look at how new jersey is doing relative to its peers, leaving aside the agencies themselves, relative to his peers, other states, their Fund Balances the general reserve fund balance is going down while other people are going up. So, other than the assumptions, what fiscal decisions has he made that he
could be blamed for . Did he, could sam brown get hammered for cutting taxes too much and kansas creating a crisis . I havent heard like massive tax cuts there. I mean, obviously, he inherited a basket case, a fiscal situation from his predecessor, right . Its interesting, he had a down or an upgrade right when he took office for doing nothing. It was a pure method logical change. He had an upgrade. A huge issue is pensions. He kicked the can down the road. More so than in a lot of other states. So he is making, borrow shopping from, basically stealing from the future in order to do these onetime gimmicks in order to fund his budget in the country. 84. This is troublesome for the future. So. How many senior voters are there in new jersey . Aha, there you go. I dont know. So what should he do . Its only 28 theyre paying into the pension fund, right . Most states, deadlines, 340e689
states may what percentage into their pension fund. Much higher, 35 of the state is paying 90 or higher. But they said, what should he be doing . He should. He needs to doyle down his unrealistic assumptions the original 2015 budget was a 6 growth rate, which is unrealistic. Sort of matching reality for what you are hoping for. Thats a big step. Actually, not steal shopping from the future when it comes to pensions. Kerry sheffield, thank you very much, great to have you on the show, come back soon. Still ahead, emma stone, Jake Gyllenhaal and sting making appearances under the bright leads i lights of broadway. A look at this falls most talked about plays and music cals and why jordan says we are seeing a freak trend. Do you like freaks . Im not going to say a word. Are you watching morning joe. Well be right back. Let us be lovers, well marry our fortunes together ive got some real estate here in my bag it took me four days to hitchhike from saginaw ive come to look for america
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encouraging. Its cabaret. Its high art. Liza men nelly in that role. Hows it different . She makes it her own. The whole production is grittier and dirtier. Well, cabaret. We have big stars coming to broadway. Hugh jackman, Bradley Cooper. The gorgeous Bradley Cooper will be transforming into the tragically deformed star of the elephant man without the use of prosthetics as is the tradition with this play. And the elephant man on broadway, plus side show, a musical that just opened to rave reviews, plus American Horror story freak show, get us a bit of a trend with our fascination with extreme otherness. Lets talk about Jake Gyllenhaal, ruth wilson. Also making his broadway
debut as is ruth wilson. Ruth wilson of course is the star of the affair, a tv show thats getting a lot of attention, right. Oh, its really good. Constellations. A new play. Shell also be kind of exploring a complicated relationship. We had alan alda. From love letters. That looks like such a fascinating concept. Youve got to go. Its a different cast they sit and read the letters that traces their relationship over time. Its a different cast every couple of weeks. So can go like seven times. Oh, my god. Love letters bingeing. Its like netflix. If you had to choose one. You cant do that. Ill tell you, im very people visiting the city for just a few nights. Im very excited about curious incident of the dog in the nighttime, alexander sharp
is making his broadway debut and is a star in the making. He literally just graduated from juilliard. Now he is doing taking off, giving this performance that will 100 be remembered come tony time. What about people that are coming to the city and its their last shot . Lots of last calls on broadway. Pippen, once, and motown all closing up after new years. All three theaters have shows coming in the spring and well talk about that in the spring. In the commercial break, hell tell us. Jordan roth, thank you so much, its so great to see you. Happy holidays. Happy thanksgiving. For the second night in a row, protests rocked the community of ferguson, missouri. The very latest from that city. Plus, officer darren williamsso side of the story. And well tell you the reasoning behind this very odd press
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its going to take a while. Its going to take a while . Yeah. So anyway, you have family coming in . I do. Ive got 8,000 people at my house right now. You do, you have like an army. It is an army. I dont know. It seemed like a good idea to invite a division of the Chinese Red Army a couple months ago. But its packed. I mean, are they going to thats the problem, i think were all confronting, is everyone going to make it. Because the winter storm expected to pound the northeast could bring trouble to millions of travelers this thanksgiving holiday. An estimated 46 Million People are expected to head out of town, 20 million of whom live in the impacted areas. Are likely to have a lot of company from those taking advantage of low gas prices. Meantime, airlines have already canceled more than 200 flights in anticipation of the storm. Almost half of those are just two airports. La guardia and newark. But its a different story on the rails. Amtrak says it will try to power through the storm. Lets just hope. Lets bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins for the very latest. Bill, this is like terrible timing. If this storm happened in the middle of winter, it would be like, big deal. But not like this, a big day for travel across the country. Things are looking good for i95. Im no longer expected any significant snow. D. C. , baltimore, philly, new york, even all the way back up into boston. Its interior sections that will get it it the worst. You will drive in heavy rain. Because of volume, the airports will still have delays, windy too. Its not like its going to be a piece of cake getting along the east coast. But you wont be doing it in a lot of snow and ice. Right now, primarily rain, south florida, back up into new york city. I68 i95 is covered in rain right now. Snow starting to break out in the appalachians. Look at the temperatures. Plenty warm on i95. To issues at all with any frozen precipitation. Until at least this evening. Heres my new snowfall map. I pretty much have taken out accumulating snows from d. C. To baltimore to new york. Just west and north of those suburbs, you could get a couple inches. Heavy snow confined to this afternoon, catskills, poconos, hudson valley. Albany new york you could get a foot of snow. I would not want to be on i95, the northway, this evening, across the mass pike, the berkshires, could get over a foot of snow. In Northern New England from portland back up into maine. There is some areas that is going to be very treacherous to travel. Interior new england tonight. I95 is looking better, guys. Okay, thanks, bill. South of france. You and mika have a wonderful time lets go to acting like shes not going to be there. Ive been. See, i told you, i know somebody. Is that in rhode island . Is that below, above . Just southwesterly. Westerly. I thought it was. Okay. Turning to the situation in ferguson right now where officer Darren Wilson is speaking out for the first time about the shooting that killed Michael Brown. Wilson says the altercation began after he asked the teenager to move out from the middle of the street. After a verbal exchange, wilson says brown reached into his police car and grabbed for his gun and during the struggle, the officer says brown punched him in the face. Is there anything you could have done differently than would prevented that killing from taking place . No. Nothing . No. And youre absolutely convinced when you look through your heart and your mind, that if Michael Brown were white, this would have gone down in exactly the same way . Yes. No question . No question. Something you think will always haunt you . I dont think its a haunting. Its always going to be something that happened. You are you have a very clear conscience. The reason i have a clean conscience, i know i did my job right. Im just curious. So we have stated and i have stated repeatedly that there are two criminal Justice Systems in america. Yeah. Black young men, especially, are not only treated worse on street, theyre treated worse in the court system. Theyre treated worse all the way through. White kids get away with, black kids dont get away with. All right, so everybody agrees with that . Yeah. That said, if whats in the grand jury report is true, and if i stood in the middle of the street in front of that Police Officer and then ran to his car and started punching him and grabbing for his gun, does
anybody presume that i would not be treated the same way . Because i will tell you, cops are jerks to everybody when you dont do what cops tell you to do. If thats what happened, i think its what the grand jury says. So i just there is an element of race. But as far as this specific event and this cop goes, im just curious, does anybody on this panel believe that if i confronted a cop, stood in a new york cop, lets say, Staten Island, and the cop said, get out of the street, and i said no, and i started swearing at hill, went up and started punching him and started grabbing at him, like the grand jury report says, if that is, in fact, true, what would that Staten Island cop do . Steve . Youve lived in new york for a while. What would a new york city cop do to me, white guy . Well, at that point in time,
probably exactly what he did do, which is try to recover his gun, the gun went off. But i think theres two other pieces to this. One is you are a big guy. Brown is a big guy it its a little different than if me or catty or somebody were in a fight with a cop. If i had a 250pound guy coming at me the cop is a big guy too, 64. Fair enough, big guy. Critical part came later when he turned, ran back at him. Thats where the fatal shots were fired. Roland, young black men in america are treated badly compare to young white men in america. The criminal Justice Systems not fair to them. Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I think we all agree with that. Im talking about as we look at this cop and his testimony last night, George Stephanopoulos at one point said, well, did it have to do with the color of his skin . Im 64, i weigh way too much, im a big guy. If im coming at a cop on staten
island and i go into the car, if we believe the grand jury report, do we believe the cop would act differently towards me than Michael Brown . Ill ask this question, how many times have we done stories on white men who have been shot and killed by cops . I mean, we weve seen well, im sure white men have been killed by cops but theres not the racial component so but follow me here. Heres one of the issues that we begin to talk about, just the grand jury report you understand when i say roland, white cop kills 64 white guy thats not the story that this is because there is the racial component in ferguson which of course has a horrible racial divide now. I understand. Also, i take into account the fact that Darren Wilson was at a Previous Police department that was disbanded because of various problems. Heres the other issue that really jumps out. Darren wilson is offering
testimony that was given or was put together six weeks afterwards. He never did an Actual Police report right after the incident. So part of the problem is Darren Wilson had an opportunity to literally, six weeks later, say, well, this is what happened. As opposed to right after. So part of the problem here is also how Ferguson Police investigated this particular case. Now, am i am i alleging that he changed his story . Im not saying what im saying is we would have a different view if we got his view of what happened immediately afterwards. We didnt get that. And this the grand jury shows that. Let me just say, roland, to back that up, and im not saying that he lied in front of the grand jury testimony, but you can be coached. You can be prepared. And the one thing that did jump to my mind, as i was reading his testimony, is he kept talking about the hand in the waistband. Right. And he kept repeating that. Which of course is justification, i didnt know if he was going for a gun or not. There were eyewitnesses who said, including a little girl, who said he was charging at him like a football player. Also, joe, heres the other issue. He had on basketball shorts. Thats an elastic waistband. One of the witnesses said you cant a gun cannot just sit in those kind of shorts. That kind of big guys running, that gun is slide supposedly a gun if hes doing a full charge at you people at home that are going to say, well, why are they talking about the waistband . He kept talking about the waistband. Its kind like when my kids when my kids Say Something way too much. Its like, okay, youre giving yourself away here. But, joe, hes the best one, hes punching me and he stop, takes the cigars and tells his friend, hold these, and goes back to punching a dude, im n
going to stop and say, hold my cigar, let me go back to punching. Again, lisa bloom did a great job of literally going through and breaking down a lot of discrepancies in how mccullough did not push back on a lot of his testimony and just took it at face value. I think part of the reason this is such a tough case for a lot of people is those of us who sit in studios on tv are trying to read a mans heart and we dont know. What we do know is what the evidence said. We dont know if hes racist. We dont know if he made his decision based on race. Based on the evidence, why did officer williams be do certain things. I think its fair to ask him if he had to shoot 12 times. Did he have to kill him. Was the threat so grave that you had to unload 12 bullets into this guy . So i guess what we know from the testimony, from everybodys testimony, is that there was the altercation in the street. He charged the car. There was a fight inside the car. And then he ran away , then he turned back around, started charging at him again. I guess i would ask what constitutes a charge too. He was still more than 100 feet away. A couple things. The first thing is that obviously there are a lot of aspects of this that were not handled well. The officer was allowed to go back to his barracks, wash the blood off his hands. Take his own gun, put it in the plastic. They didnt have a special prosecutor. They used the regular prosecutor who has some history by the way, that wouldnt happen in new york, right . If theres a fatal shooting, a cop shoots somebody, everything stops. The investigators come in. Oh, yeah. A cops not going to go back to the barracks. Thats just bush league. But they did go to the hospital and measure his wounds. So you have real questions around how it was handled. You have some conflicting eyewitness reports. The prepond rens of the reports point to the events weve been talking about. If what we know if what is said is true, that this cop was sitting in his car being punched and wrestled for his gun and this huge guy turns and runs away, then runs back at you, im not sure any of us would behave rationally. And say, how many shots should i fire. Should i try to aim for his knee. I will say also, if a 64 guy like me is running, charging at a cop, thats a little bit different than you charging at a cop, you know, so again were trying to get, like we said, into his head. You asked the question, would there have been any difference if Michael Brown had been white. To me is key. I think there is. Its very hard for us sitting here to say categorically there would have been no difference. Thats correct. And also, members of the
black community are almost entirely saying they believe there would have been a difference. And thats almost as important thats very important. You look at all the stats. Three times more often blacks are going to be cuffed and arrested than whites are. So they have a theyre coming at this with a history of mistrust and of thinking and believing and the evidence is there to support them that they are unfairly targeted. So its hard for them to look at this report and say and to believe officer wilson when he says if Michael Brown had been white, i would have acted in exactly the same way. Still ahead on morning joe, actor justin long is here with a look at his new film comet. It may be taylor swifts moment but not everyone is a fan. Well tell you which legendary musician blocked the major sensation from a hollywood role. Next. Ring ring . Progresso its ok that your soup tastes like my homemade. Its our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. Apology accepted. Im watching you soup people. Make it progresso or make it yourself
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value of the Second Biggest Company in the world, exxon mobil. From yahoo today, verizon is rolling out its own holiday. Something the Telecom Giant is branding connection day. Travelers will be treated to free wifi at several airports around the country. Really . Thank you so much for something that you shouldnt be charging us for anyway. Theyll be getting access to Free Internet while in the air as well. Verizon is teaming up with amazon to give away discounted apps. With conde nast to offer free digital downloads. Thats so selfserving. God, cynic. So cranky. We have a day for you so we can advertise and get you to buy stuff and were going to give you something free we charge you ridiculous prices for that we have anyway in our airports for ourselves. The constitution doesnt matter, be nice. Connection day . Ill give you a connection day. Thats not what i would call a connection day. I do agree, wifi should be like oxygen, just everywhere. It is, its everywhere. Wow. All right. Rolling stone magazine. Im disappointed. Taylor swift is getting a lot of attention but folk legend jo Joni Mitchell is not a fan. Mitchell say quote, i squelched that, adding, quote, i said to the producer, all youve got is a girl with high cheekbones. Thats just really not true at all. Shes a rock and roll hall famer. She said the material was filmed with nonsense, gossip and assumptions. I understand the second part of that. I think her big quibble is with the actual movie. She threw in there, the only thing she had going for her was taylor swift high cheekbones and also a girl with high cheekbones who happens to be one of the more transformative figures in
american popular music over the past decade. But an actress, i dont know. Having her play a role shes talented thats what im saying, no, im saying, shes like one of the most transformative figures i think theres more to that. In pop music in a long time. Well, maybe the script is very bad. Yeah, exactly. Sounds like it was. Dont attack me. Did i just Say Something thats going to get me attacked . Lets try this one. After Seattle Seahawks running back mar shawn lynch was fined 100,000 for not speaking to the media, teammate Richard Sherman along with doug baldwin behind a card board cutout of himself defended lynch by being mowing some of the nfl policies they say are hypocritical. It seems like were in a league where they say, players, you know, you dont endorse any alcohol, please dont endorse alcohol, no duis please. But yet a beer sponsor is their biggest sponsor. Doug, how do you feel about that . Sounds very hypocritical. Its fun to use your time in the nfl to speak about something you care about, right . Because then you dont get fined 100,000. You dont get fined at all. This is somehow they want us to talk, right . They want us to advertise, right, doug . Sounds about right to me. All right. Got to make some money. Got to not get fined. Anybody got any questions . Nope, i dont think so. All right. Have a good day. Wow. That was funny. Richard sherman man. Mixes it up. Up next, do you believe in miracles . One of the greatest sportscasters in the business al michaels joins morning joe when we come right back. She inspires you. No question about that. But your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. Cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moments right. You can be more confident in your ability to be ready. And the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. Side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. To avoid long term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. Ask your doctor about cialis for daily use
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block. Just this oscar the thing is though, he goes to the party every year because speaking of communists, he wants to know how communists throw parties so al goes exactly. So lets talk about another big sports moment. 1989, a world series that nobody on the west coast will ever forget, especially on the bay area. That was a big moment as well. Well, the earthquake. Youre coming on the air, world series. So the concentration level like a horse were blinkers. All im thinking about is what im going to say. How im going to lead into tape. How im going to get jim palmer into it. The next thing you know, all hell is breaking loose. I have lived in california so i understood the feeling of an earthquake. Theres just that one moment where youre going, wait a minute, its the world series. This cant be. Its the giants against the as. What, whats happening here . And it was it was only 15 seconds but it felt a lot longer. And there was one pretty petrifying moment when i felt as if we were going to be pitched out of the back of the booth. Our backs were to the field. Its shaking like this. Its a very its a very horizontal shaker. I think were going out into the lower deck. But fortunately, im still here to talk about it. You know, growing up, im from the south, but i lived in upstate new york for four years. And the only posters i had on my wall were of Paul Mccartney and o. J. Simpson. Talking about how people cant remember what 1980 was like. People cant remember how o. J. Simpson was the epitome. He was the golden child at usc. He was always smiling. He was a good guy. His linemen were his friends. It was i sat in wonderment watching o. J. Simpson run in the 70s. And you were you were good friends with him. Tell us about o. J. And, my gosh,
just the contrast between what we thought and what he became. Well, he was a colleague, for starters. I worked at the l. A. Olympics with him. Then we did a few other things at abc together. Help w he was a neighbor. He had a tennis court. This is before i played golf and i wanted to play tennis all the time. I was at the house probably three times a week playing with him. When his knee became south and he became a golfer, my new tennis partner became al callings. When this thing happens in 1984, i know about everybody. Obviously, i knew nicole. I met nicole when they were engaged. And this thing happened and i go wait a minute, this is like the murder of the century and its in my neighborhood. And i live about halfway between where nicole lived and o. J. And i know everybody involved in this. So it was surreal. It was, you know, i would wake up for a couple of days and go
wait, this is not happening. You cant be this close to a situation and know all of these people and theyre involved in this. And of course the way it played out over the next year and a half was just crazy. You have this connective tissue to all these people. But to o. J. Directly. And he never said to you, i didnt do this . And that gave me pause too. I talked to him on the cell phone during a couple times, during that period. He was upset about the way it was being covered. One conversation i had with him a couple of days after the murders, i think he alluded to that he was working for nbc and knew everybody at nbc and he couldnt believe the way the nbc local affiliate was treating this. So i figure, all right, heres a guy whos going through all the wackiness. When i visited him in jail on three occasions, he kept saying, how can they think i did this . And not i didnt do this. If you didnt commit a murder or double murder, arent you pounding the walls . Maybe im wrong. But at the end of the day, i would think what do you mean how can anybody think i did this . Tell me yeah, tell me you didnt do it. Yeah. The book is you cant make this up. Al michaels, thank you so much. Its great to have you on the show. Ill see you at aris. Oh, god. Morning joe will be right back. Take a closer look at your fidelity green line and youll see just how much it has to offer, especially if youre thinking of moving an old 401 k to a fidelity ira. It gives you a wide range of investment options. And the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals and what youre really investing for. Tap into the full power of your fidelity green line. Call today and well make it easy to move that old 401 k to a fidelity rollover ira. There are more reasons than ever why now is the best time to be on verizon. One verizons the largest, most reliable 4g lte network
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stopped at the airport. The other, who is 20, has so far evaded authorities. According to the associated press, a handful of People Living in minnesota have travelled to syria in the past year to fight with militants. Meanwhi meanwhile, the u. N. Says isis received between 35 million and 45 million in ransom payments this year. Whose governments have refused to pay. A new quinnipiac poll showses s overwhelming amount of americans says the u. S. Should never pay ransom for u. S. Hostages. Facing some hurdles with two of the top potential choices taking their names out of the running. First, senator jack reid said he wasnt interested. Now Michele Flournoy is also out of the mix. The former undersecretary of defense cited family priorities, noting that two of her children will soon be heading to college. A senior white house official
tells nbc news that Homeland Security secretary jay johnson is now on the short list. He of course served as general counsel at the Defense Department during the first obama administration. Theyre going to miss Michele Flournoy. The timing is difficult for her. Some sense that maybe that job is something of a doormat to the white house and she doesnt want it. Hundreds of Oklahoma High School students are finding a way to push back against bullying stemming from an alleged rape. They launched a campaign using yesalldaughters and walked out of class to protest. It started after three teenage girls said theyd been raped and then claimed other students began bullying them in the hallwa hallways. The suspect was suspended but classmates of the girls say the school did not handle the aftermath properly. The alleged victims withdrew from school after being taunted in the hallways. In a let the school insisted,
quote, advocates for the safety of its students. Now to the campus of the university of virginia. School officials are now apologizing after being criticized for its handling of a disturbing Sexual Assault case. Nbc National CorrespondentPeter Alexander joins us live from charlot charlottesville. Tell us about the emergency meeting of the board, what did they decide . This campus has cleared out ahead of the thanksgiving holiday but students, faculty, advisers, are all grappling with some deepseated issues here as the head of the Fraternity Council suggested himself yesterday, Sexual Violence is a serious problem in fraternities and greek life. As he id ssaid, its upsetting t admit. Your storys not unique . I heard from a lot of women like me. Reporter emily knows firsthand about rape at uva. As a freshman, she says she was
sexually assaulted. Her attacker, she says, never punished because he transferred schools. Now, employed by the university, she counsels other Sexual Assault advisers including jackie, whose detailed account of a vicious gang rape has exposed a crisis within this 200yearold institution. Every student you say needs to look in the mirror . And decide what can i do that reinforces a value system that supports survivors and stops it from happening. Reporter uvas board addressed the firestorm sparked by the Rolling Stone article at an emergency meeting tuesday. Id like to say to jackie and her parents that i am sorry. Reporter weeks after Charlottesville Police investigated the disappearance and murder of freshman hannah graham, the University President has now asked chief tim longo to investigate jackies case. There were bystanders. There were people in that room. Who saw and heard what is being
called shocking and horrifying and i hope that those bystanders have the moral courage, the moral courage to come forward and help us with that investigation. Reporter even as protesters silently condemned the schools policies, one sign of uvas founder reading, sexual misconduct, a jeffersonian tradition. The board vowed to come up with new solutions. If we cant deliver on this fundamental duty, then we, all of us, we will have failed. Reporter urgent calls for change. As this Campus Community undergoes a painful reexamination. We are facing a deeply kind of terrible thing thats happened within our community and that fundamentally undermines your feeling of trust here. Reporter at the end of that Board Meeting yesterday, the board committed itself to a zero tolerance policy on Sexual Assault here at uva. Mika and catty, its still very unclear what that means and how
it will be enforced. All right. Nbcs Peter Alexander, thank you so much. You know, its staggering, isnt it . People were in the room. There were witnesses. And i think that its not this is one of many. This is what happens a lot my daughters just started at colombia and it is all the board is talking about. Theyre having a conversation about this at hopkins, dealing with drinking, you know, and just trying to figure out how to get their arms around a situation that is extremely difficult to control, let alone when you have victims having fear of speaking out and also all the intricacies in responding to Something Like this. Its complicated. Its difficult. It is a real problem. The busy Holiday Shopping season is taking on a green hue and why the states where Recreational Marijuana is now legal. A new nbc series pot barons of colorado explores the booming
business. Here is alex wagner with a preview. Many colorado holiday shoppers, at least those of legal age, have a new option this year. Putting marijuana on their shopping lists to both give and get. And if their Christmas Shopping in denver, they wont have far to look. Denver has more marijuana dispensaries than Liquor Stores or starbucks. One of the most popular items may be lunchable marijuana, known as edibles. Edibles are almost half of the nearly 1 billion in marijuana products that will be sold this year in colorado. One of the leading companies, dixie elixirs, makes potbased soda, a drink which may replace champagne in some Colorado Homes this new years eve. We just grossly underestimated the demand from the adult use consuming and specifically the infused products. So this is hash oil combined with butter. We average 2,000 bars a day. Reporter companies that make edib edibles, whether soda pops, are growing like, well, weeds. So are the stores that sell them. Which looks like a highend apple store. I can help the next person in line. Its been crazy busy. Weve been slammed. Reporter as coloradans set off for grandmas house this holiday season, they may be bringing a special dessert, marijuana infused pumpkin pie. Thats an interesting gift. Msnbcs pot barons of colorado premieres this sunday at 10 00 p. M. Eastern. Its time for business before the bell with cnbcs sara eis eisen. Were getting a lot of economic data. Because of the holiday tomorrow, we just learned that actually the number of americans filing for unemployment claims last week went up. That was a bit of a
disappointment. Another 21,000 additional people filing for those claims. Bringing the total of the week to 313,000. Still, economists say, if you zoom out, look at the big picture, youre still seeing steady improvement in the jobs market. We dont want that number of unemployment claims to sit above 300,000. Havent seen that since back in early september. Its certainly something were going to watch to see if this improvement continues or if theres some sort of pick up in the data. The other big economic report, durable goods. Its just a measure of how much businesses are spending now and the heavy duty machinery on products that are meant to last more than three years. It went up a little bit. That was mostly due to a big increase in defense spending. Defense orders and aircraft. So those are two of the highlights from the morning data. Of course, thr is is the retail season. Everybody on wall street watching how these are going to be trading into the allimportant black holiday. Weve done a lot of data
analysis and business stories on this. Guess what, big tvs are still one of the main draws when it comes to electronics. Theyre getting bigger and theyre getting cheaper. Just to give you a sense of it, 40 to 60 inch tvs are having discounts. Last few years its been more like 30 inch tvs. Target, best buy, theyre all advertising. Yes, people are liking their beats headphones and their ipads, but still some of the biggest deals and the reason people line up overnight on thursday and friday are for those big screen tvs. Just speaking about electronics here, interesting to note, so amazon cape ome out with this f phone. Its no secret it hasnt been a blockbuster seller. Now amazon is taking down the price to 1. 99 without a contract. That is hundreds of dollars less. Theyre obviously trying to get rid their inventory as theyre taking losses for it. It will be interesting to see whether amazon stays in this hardware game to compete with
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going to fall in love with you too . No, well, yeah. Does they ever say it . That was the scene from the new film con men. Justin long. Louis is here too. Catty, is that okay with you . Why should it not be . Got the full beard going. Justin, hes kind a full beard . I mean, its a quarter beard. Okay. Lets be honest. We dont usually let him at the table. Hes not trouble trained. We need to have you on more often. Welcome. Its also good because i suffer i cant grow a great thick beard. I do feel like less of a man now next to louis . No, i feel like almost a man now. And i have to thank you too for forcing my grandmother to tune in to msnbc. Really . She a republican . Shes a real fox uhhuh, uhhuh. I got it. So grandma long
hi, grandma. Welcome to the msnbc family. Wheres she from . Maybe this will expand your ideology a little bit. Shes italian so you know, married into the polish do you think that would help, if i talk to her in polish . I think italian would be better. What the heck are you drinking . That was gross. Oh, yeah, well. What a great segue. This is hes trying to win you over. Its my own little this is not Poland Spring so i hope the company doesnt come after me. Its just Green Vegetables and a whole bunch of stuff. Thats good, i applaud that. My grandmothers 97. Not to make it all about her. But im hoping to make it. Your grandmother would not like your spelling prowess. No. My name, that was it. You butchered it. Theres two zs in there. Sorry, louis. Now i see why they dont want you here. Louis, you have the first question. Its not your typical hollywood romantic comedy. You travel through different parts of time in your relationship. Its a little dark. Tell me about that. Yeah, it is. We look at a relationship over the not just the fun bright getting to know you times. Not the honeymoon phase. We look at all six years. It takes different moments over the course of those six years and it kind of interweaves like a dream. And its just an overview of this couples sometimes tumultuous, sometimes wonderful relationships. Relationship told in this kib of surrealist cosmic way. Did i lose everyone . No. Actually, i want to go. I want to know if she returns the favor and says im going to fall in love with you. I was taken at that scene. Shes a little bit more pragmatic. She seems tough. Shes tough and shes shes not easily won over by
whimsy. Unfortunately. Not much rom and not much com . Theres a dose of com. Theres some dram. Wow, this is the most fantastic sound bite. We are going to be isolating that. Grandmas been totally lost. No, shes yeah. Do you think your grandmother would like the movie . Shes back on fox news, sorry to say. I think she will like the movie. Especially because its on the heels of a movie i did that she hated. She is polish. That was misleading. Shes actually shes italian. Fineli. Did she tell you she didnt like it . Shes too sweet to do that. My mom is not too sweet to tell me. My mother whos also watching. Hi, mom. Did in fact vocally hate my last movie. Wow. Oh, thats nice. But this one shell like, i think. Its nice and theres some rom and some com and its good for the moms. More importantly, what was it like to work with emma rossum . Great. Shes the best. Just sweet and game. It was a very low budget so we didnt have a lot of time there wasnt a lot of time for any sort of High Maintenance behavior and she just jumped right in and embraced it. It was a quick shoot. We shot it over the course of like 20 days. He won her over with the green yeah, thats how we bonded. And shes smart, you know, really smart and was great. Obviously beautiful. You two are like bps, is that what they used to call them in college, beautiful people. Bp oil . That was a compliment. It was not the oil. In theaters, on demand, december 5th. Justin long. So nice to have you back on the show. I think you were on before. You didnt bring the green sludge the last time. I did. I didnt bring it up on the table as a conversation piece. You got to bring your grandma
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or visit goxarelto. Com time to talk about what we learned today, lewis. For all you men out there that need relationship advice, justin long is the man. Justin, what did you learn today . I learned the opposite of that. I knew that before. I learned that o. J. Simpson actually played football before he was a murderer. I did not know that. I learned that producing calorie charts just before thanksgiving thats wrong. Not a good idea. That was mean of steve. Hes so fit. Bill karins. Give us a night forecast. I learned the governor of new york is actually paying attention to the forecast. Oh, really . He actually banned all for the new york state throughway so he listened, excellent. Tandem trailers. Morning joe tandem trailers. All of us here at morning joe, we want to wish you a happy thanksgiving. The rundown is up next. Have a good one. I think generally it was a much better night. I think its fair to say the officer acted with an incredible amount of discipline tonight. We saw some protesters out there that were really out there for the right reason. Good morning. Im jose diazbalart. Crowds marched in ferguson. We didnt see nearly the