Hes going to deliver remarks on the economy this afternoon. And then later, the president will address the Congressional Hispanic Caucuses 37th annual. That will do it. Morning joe from d. C. Starts right now. How did this intruder get so far into the white house. Dont they have guard dogs. There were officers and they were concerned that the dogs might attack them instead. [ laughter ] sounds strange but makes more sense when you fine occupant a lot of secret Service Agents are cats. [ laughter ] all right. Good morning, everybody. Its thursday, october 2nd and with us on set in washington, d. C. , boy its great to be here. Busy night last night. Jeremy peters is here. Good to have you. Former White House Press secretary for president obama robert gibbs. Abc news political commentator and npr Senior AnalystCokie Roberts and on capitol hill the host and managing editor of tv ones daily morning show, news now roland martin. We have a lot to talk about. Cokie, i want to start with you. I was reading about the ebola virus and the gentleman thats in dallas how he contracted it. You know weve been hearing people, come to the show theres no reason to be worried unless you exchange bodily fluids. Youre thinking somebody has to spit in my face or have sex with them. This guy in texas got the disease carrying a pregnant woman by her legs helping a Family Member okay. They are yelling at me, we dont know thats how he got the disease. I read in the New York Times thats one of the things he did. A brother of the woman, alex talking into my ear, a brother of the woman who was carrying her by the other leg i believe contracted the disease and died. We dont know we dont know. I dont want to say anything disgusting at 6 00 in the morning, but we dont know what her situation was. Lets just put it that way. So from your im just trying to figure this out. How hard it is to spread the disease . You have a lot of people who dont have washed hands and look at the situation. Who are in a terrible, unsanitary situation. Then its much easier to spread the disease which is why youre seeing any of the medical teams covered up looking like they are in, you know, on the moon. If you look at the pictures in the New York Times even as an example you get a sense of the conditions for the victims and people suffering from it, and i mean
i just got an email from the abc doctor who has been over there working with these kids and one of the kids he had followed died this morning and its heartbreaking, and he said if that child were in america that child would be alive. Really . Thats what were dealing with. Were dealing with totally gun prepared health systems. Totally unsanitary situations. In many cases no water or clean water. Right. So these are places were capable of dealing it here. It doesnt mean we wont see it again. We can handle it. We have the infrastructure. The ability to quarantine somebody. And we have units for it. Roland . Except for one thing, if our hospitals are following the proper protocol. Yesterday i talked to a medical doctor with the Dallas Morning News and one of the issues this hospital initially released him. Then he goes back out and so now you hear him going through dallas, now being around School Children as well so part of this is will american hospitals, how will they recognize it and follow the right protocols . Thats a real issue right there because the hospital in dallas released him and he gone for three days. Unbelievable. Exactly. So, lets move on the top story and boy the Washington Post has been doing an extraordinary job. I mean you know youre doing a great job when the head of the secret service has to call the president of the United States because they know the post is about to tell him something. Last time bill had to wake up hillary and Say Something will break in the newspaper. Can you believe first of all can you believe she didnt tell the president of the United States there was a guy with a gun in the elevator . Im going rewind back 24
hours and i just am surprised that the white house, you know, appeared on our show today, gibbs maybe you can explain this to be. Please explain to me how they could so vehemently defend. The morning josh earnest was on. We have to go to the video. And he was defiant. No we have total confidence in this director. And capture if you could based on our questions, i couldnt even think of another question to ask him because the conversation seemed so needlessly by the way, this is something, you cant talk to this because josh does. I once said this of Mccain Campaign person who lied to me the night before it was very obvious, i called the person up, okay, so let me ask you this. Did you not think the sun was not going to rise the next morning . Did you not think i wasnt going
to have a tv show to tell everybody that you guys lied through your teeth to me. Dont be stupid. Josh didnt have to come on yesterday beating his chest when they already knew that she had lost confidence by not telling the president. Members of the Democratic Party in the house of representatives were already saying she needed to go. Right. Losing confidence and resigning are two different things. Right. I think josh would probably tell you right now he did not know that she was going resign. He did not know thats not the question. The question that mika asked and thats why this was a confusing response from him. You asked do you have confidence, does the president have confidence they can still protect the first family. Why he would say yes. You almost wonder if he had spoken to the president about this at all. Jeremy, the question is he may not have. Thats a problem. But, roland were going to
go to you in a second but well run this clip and hopefully it has mikas mortified look. Are your telling me this morning the president of the United States and the first lady have confidence in Julia Pierson to run an agency thats supposed to protect her two daughters. Yes. For the reasons i laid out. These are men and women who wake up every day, professionals prepared to put their life i think the professionals actually deserve to have better leadership than they have. Theres a responsibility she takes very seriously. I can tell the white house staff and the president takes this very seriously. The president has articulated hes concerned about the security around his family as any parent would be. Okay. We dont have mikas face. I did ask four questions before joe asked that question. It was like that. What is this. So, roland, i dont know. That hurts his credibility moving forward. Actually it doesnt. Thats the only response they can give. Youre talking about when you talk about protecting the president you also talk about conveying confidence to the American People. The president and josh earnest cannot come out and say well we really dont know so you have to project that even though behindthescenes youre going what the hell are you doing. You have no other choice but to do that. The person that must be saying that is michele obama. Oh, my gosh. If i were she i would be so angry. My children are in there. Honestly, our own houses are better protected. The elevator incident is perplexing because ive been in plenty of elevators with the president. The only people in the elevator with the president are people that are either in the secret service or people that the secret Service Knows exactly who
they are. As carol leigh said she pointed it out yesterday, wall street Journal White House correspondent, it seems even more preposterous when we the media had to get there three hours beforehand, sit there. Then they let this guy everybody amble on with a gun. Thats what im hearing from sources close to the spouse. Julia pierson the director resigned yesterday telling Bloomberg News in quote, i think its in the best interest of the secret service and the American Public if i step down. Congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. Media has made it clear that this is what they expected. Officials say ill tell you what they say happened. President obama lost faith after learning he shared an elevator last month at the cdc with an
armed man with a criminal record. Pierson told obama only moments before it was reported. I can tell you the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon shortly before it was reported by a news organization. She did not tell him about that or the agency did not tell the white house about that until he didnt know about it until yesterday. Until shortly before it was reported publicly. Thats correct. Over the last several days weve seen accumulating reports raising questions about the performance of the agency and the president concluded that new leadership of that agency was required. So, what weve gotten from sources close to the white house and the secret service is that there were three options to replace the secret Service Director who was being removed. And it was an africanamerican, a man, and a woman. And they went with the woman because the optics would be good. Thats number one. Number two, the thing that
really led to this resignation was not the white house fence jumper but it was the elevator. It was the elevator. She didnt bring that up to him when they first met about the fence jumper. So theres supposed to be, when the president is in a room, or a contained space theres a manifest and everybody in that space with the president is supposed to be on it. And this guy with a weapon and a record. And a record was on a elevator in the cdc with the president. Shooting video. Oh, my gosh. Shooting video of the president. Thank god he was just shooting video. I do think look, first of all, having worked with the secret service for four years, they were, i always was struck by the utmost professionalism. These are people that sign up to stand in front of the president if something goes horribly wrong. I know joe clancy. I think joe is a fabulous interim pick. I would not be surprised, my apologies to joe and his family if he doesnt get pushed and pulled to stay on as a more permanent director. I think joe is going to have a lot of confidence among the agents. But lets just pause for one second on the resignation. A Security Apparatus is literally, has to be strong every where. Right . Thats right. Director pierson was not at the white house the day somebody who previously had been stopped at the white house, climbed the fence at the white house, ran through the grounds of the white house, got through the door of the white house, ran into the east room of the white house. So i think what we have to under i think joes first responsibility is to look at there clearly were a series of security lapses that september 19th. You had two guys that were down on constitution avenue, who said theres gunfire and somebody said no, no, it was just backfire. And they said, no, theres a shooting. Roland . I got to push back on that. First of all, she did not instill any confidence when she was before congress in that hearing. She couldnt give very clear and concise answers. I understand she wasnt there at the white house or in atlanta. The problem in atlanta was she had someone on the president ial detail stay back to do an investigation and then the post reported didnt report further investigation and didnt tell the president. Not only did she fail as a leader. Had she appeared before congress and been more forthright, more focused, more disciplined, more clear folks would have seen okay she has to hand tell situation. But not tell the president . That was it. I dont disagree im certainly not here to say i dont think she shouldnt have resign. I think she should have resigned two weeks ago or somebody should have made her resign two weeks ago. Im suggesting joes first job as interim director is to figure out what went wrong in 2011, what went wrong a few weeks ago. Lets be clear. You know, testified at the hearing that people observed this man again who had been stopped in august with a hatchet, small axe, on the south lawn. People observed him, recognized him, watched him for a while and notify anybody. That, again, i agree that there has to be and should be a change in leadership, but, again, this is somebody needs to be my dad told a story last night at ciss. When he first got his job. He said what about this threat
that were facing. We need to make sure the president can get out of here. We can get him out of here in two minute. Really . Lets do it. Right now. He called everyone on it. Everybody had to rally and the chopper had to get in place. Took them much longer than they thought. He did a drill completely unexpectedly. They put threefoot fences up. I start doing drills. Catch people with their pants down right and left and fire them and figure it out. I was struck by the fact in the hearing, 116 people over the past five years have climbed the fence. Now, im not a security expert and im not trying to be flip but the first thing i would do is build a bigger fence. Lets get jeremy in here. My colleague did some reporting on this and found the fence is actually a historic artifact. So you cant tear it down. Could you. But it would be problematic to tear it down. The secret services culpability here is clear. But what about the white houses
handling of this. Robert you could speak to the fact. This doesnt look to be the most adept crisis management. They are leaking things how this woman wasnt their first choice. Doesnt seem very professional. You have to live with the choice you make. I think this and one of the things in joshs defense all too often and i was in some of these meetings and i did some of these meetings specifically with joe. Theres a small circle of people that will get read into the security moments of a president for obvious reasons and josh may just not have known exactly what was happening at certain points with some of the security moments. That doesnt mean josh is uninformed by any means. I think if you look back at this, what, to read the story on saturday night or sunday morning about what happened with the shooting, to understand that we didnt know how far that person got into the white house until the eve of the shooting, its incumbent upon the secret service and josh said this in
the briefing. He lied to us about it too. Josh said this, think got to be much more transparent not in the way that compromises security dont need to lie. Start there. This mornings the Washington Post also mika has more details. It does about Julia Piersons time in charge of the security service. Staffing shortages under her watch and it called for 100 Surveillance Office towers patrol the would you say. She urged for far fewer. Pierson honored a request from d. C. Mayor to open up a street near Benjamin Netanyahus hotel. The mayor had traffic concerns even though the street had been closed for years to prevent a possible attack. And removed fencing when the president hosted the frances summit this year. Pierson who worked at a costume character at disney world as a
teen said we need be more like disney world. She didnt say that. No. I think they are making it up. Look. It is true sometimes the security drives you completely nuts and theres been a lot of overreaction in washington shutting down pennsylvania avenue and all that. Which shows you, shutting down pennsylvania avenue only do we need to be like have you ever been to disney world. Of course i have. Many times. I was there once and left immediately. Okay. Stop. Im sorry. Well be on pennsylvania avenue later today. She had a 30 year service with the secret service. So its not quite fair to talk about what she did as at that teenager. But the fact is that this was a major, major failure. All right. But we shouldnt react by closing down washington. We got a lot coming up including i want to talk to cokie about two polls coming in. One from kansas, pat roberts an independent may actually beat pat roberts and out of wisconsin yesterday we were talking about scott walker new poll comes out shows him moving ahead in wisconsin. A lot to talk about and more cross currents. Pretty incredible. Okay. In different parts of the country parties are doing differently. Still ahead senator Bernie Sanders says the u. S. Is wrong to go after isis in the middle east. He joins us in our 8 00 hour. Up next are you ready for the age of unlimited vacations . Yes, i am. Ill tell you why Richard Branson thinks thats what the workforce needs. Hes not alone. Burger wars. Well explain japans fascination with dark burgers as mcdonalds offers up a new item to challenge burger king. Well be right back. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. If energy could come from anything . Or if power could go anywhere . Or if light could seek out the dark . What would happen if that happens . Anything. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. From biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo. Startupny has new businesses popping up across the state. See how startupny can help your business grow at startup. Ny. Gov
all right. We had a busy night last night. You know what . You know how when you have a lot of kids that are busy and running from event to event. Im going to show you retirement. Brzezinski style. This is my mothers bench. My mother did an event, talking about her new book the lord of the forest and her incredible body of work and we had a great audience and she was fantastic. And as you know, her work is unbelievable. Its on display right now at the phillips collection as well as at the krieger museum in washington. Then i had to dash over then your dad. My dad was being honored at
center for strategic and international studies. They have opened up the Brzezinski Institute, which is focused on geostrategy. He spoke and had a wonderful time actually able to make it to both events. That was wonderful. Im not sure how to keep up with these two. Youre a very lucky woman. You walk into the Brzezinski Institute and you go in and he goes welcome. I walk in and there must be a detector. You know you are stunningly really wonderful dinner. Im glad we were there for a few minutes. So now lets take a look at the morning papers. We have thomas in new york as well for that but well start thomas with st. Louis, the st. Louis dispatch. Prosecutors from st. Louis are investigating allegations of misconduct in the grand jury investigation into the death of michael brown. A twitter user claimed to have
inside knowledge into the case saying quote, i know someone sitting on the grand jury of this case. There isnt enough at this point to warrant an arrest. The post and twitter account were deleted. The graj has been weighing evidence in the case since august 20th. If there was a breach the entire process would have to start over. Thomas. On a lighter note we look at usa today and they are talking about mcdonalds launching a new menu item as the fast food wars are heating up in japan. This is in honor of halloween. They are going to be selling a limited edition of black burger. Its no match for the burger king version. Look at the sidebysides here. Its the allblack once. Cheese and special squid ink sauce. The Mcdonald Burger sports a bun dyed black but keeps the yellow cheese. Its like green beer on st. Patricks day. Still no word if the burgers
will come to the u. S. If they do well have a morning joe eat off contest right here on the set. That would be the worst Japanese Invasion since pearl harbor. Keep your burgers over there. I want to see them in person. Up close. Why . From the l. A. Times netflix has signed a deal with adam sadler. Hell problem ducing and starring in four films exclusively for the streaming site. The first movie can arrive as early as next year. Thomas its something netflix has really gotten into the original content business. Being a great. Mika has been asking for a happy gilmore ii and happy gilmore iii. Richard branson has given his personal staff 200 people unlimited vacation days. The chairman and founder of virgin group said the staff is free to take off whenever they lining, for as long as they want and they dont need to get manager approval. This was a idea inspired by netflix. But if the policy is successful, then sir richard will encourage the companys subsidiaries to adopt that policy as well. I cant imagine it not being successful. Ill apply today. Is there a virgin tv group . I think thats i think thats innovative. I think they will get higher productivity. I think it could be counter intuitive. If you hire the right people obviously that will work. There was a guy that i know runs creative shop somewhere who understands hes got some very creative people there and sometimes hell say take a month off. He says he knows that when they come back from the month, they are just going to be like
animals that were caged that come out and will just work. Be interesting to see if these people do take time off. They probably would be scared to. If i leave the office what will happen. Mika, thats obviously why i never take time off. Weve been talking about the Ebola Outbreak in west africa and confirmation the virus has jumped to america. Joining us now time magazines health editor. It takes a look what the virus is doing in west africa and potential damage here in the u. S. Thanks for being on. I guess lets go to the question that comes to everybodys mind. The conditions, obviously, in areas in west africa are horrific and lead to the virus spreading. Are we certain, though, about containment here in the u. S. . Can we say we wont see x amount cases . We cant say we wont see any more cases, but the thing about
ebola thats important to realize is that we actually do know how to contain the virus. Theres a very straightforward protocol and given the resources that we have and the resource like a country with the u. S. With a Great Health Care system we can contain this case, no question. Hes in isolation, Contact Tracing is the best practice which means going out over tory Single Person he contact with and monitoring them for 21 days as well and in the hands of the cdc this can be contained. Front page of the the Washington Post though talks about ebola misstep in texas. Do you think the mistake of the texas hospital is probably going to change the game for other hospitals arose the u. S. . Im glad you brought that up and i think it sounds the alarm. First and absolute most important thing is that a patient be in isolation as soon as possible. So it was a misstep. Theres no getting around that. Hopefully that wont happen the next time someone shows up with
symptoms of ebola. Five people an hour in sierra leone contracting the disease. So its really its spreading like crazy. You know, one of the really sad things africa was doing pretty well. There was a lot of good news coming out of africa. And now this has setback those countries for a generation. The story i told earlier this morning robert that i read in the New York Times and everybody jumped on me, here i am trying to embrace your newspaper and everybody acting like i crawled out of a sewer drunk. But in that story you had this poor woman, this 19yearold pregnant woman has ebola, shes rushed to a hospital there and they turn her away and she goes home, seven months pregnant and dies at home a few hours later. Theres just an infrastructure problem. Absolutely. I think the answer in some ways to mikas question how do we not have it spread here is we got to
have a surge in that west africa its not generated here unless you come in to contact with somebody that has it. That person came from west africa. Thats obviously where this has started. Its where it has blossomed. Its the only place that we thats the place where we have to correct it. We are. When the u. S. Military is setting up a hospital there. The usaid is sending in a lot of money and other organizations like save the children are going in. Thank you so much. The new time cover chasing ebola. Thank you very much. Coming up did Julia Pierson do the right thing by stepping down. Well talk to the former director of the secret service in his first interview since testifying on capitol hill. Plus well check in on what the top columnists are writing today in the mornings top opinion pages. Thats next on morning joe. [ ] great rates and safety working in harmony. Open an optimizer plus account from synchrony bank. Visit myoptimizerplus. Com to open an account. Service. Security. Savings. Synchrony bank engage with us. Im alex trebek. If youre age 50 to 85, i have an Important Message about security. Write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. The lock i want to talk to you about isnt the one on your door. This is a lock for your Life Insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. But be careful. Many policies you see do not have one,
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fighting smarter than we are. These extremists use arms to fight their battles in the short terms but to hold ground in the long run, they also combat western education and womens empowerment. They know that illiteracy, ignorance and oppression of women create the petri dish in which extremism can flourish. Shouldnt we try to compete . Were tactician, alas the extremists may be better strategists. The wall street journal, whats at stake in hong kong. This is a big story happening right now. The desire for selfgovernment is natural when a society becomes as of a fluent as hong kong. But talk to the protesters and another theme emerges. Saving the qualities that make their city unique. They want democracy as a bull wark against the influx of mainland authoritarian values with their understanding that democracy is both about Political Choice and moral
values. The people of hong kong are today in the vanguard of the global fight for freedom. Doesnt look like theres much give, cokie. If you look at the editorial on the front page of the paper today, the communist paper. They are not backing down. No. I mean sort of scary to think what happens next. The protesters are saying they are going to occupy government buildings, and when that starts to happen you know what, its 1965 and youll take over the columbia professors office thats one thing. I dont think thats going to go over too well in hong kong. People in the reports, people from the mainland who have come and seen whats going on in hong kong cant believe it. If this were happening at home we would be dead. The china, though, at the same time are facing much more complex situation arent they in 2014 than they were in 1989. Sure. They cannot respond the way
they responded at tiananmen square. Lets see what happens next then. Because if they dont respond that way what do they do . This is 150,000 people. Gloets to your story today in the hill. More plane cancelations coming before the elections. Nearly 50,000 people are going to lose their Current Health coverage in the coming weeks and you talk about the political consequences before the midterm elections. Thats right. Were wondering whether this will move the needle in tough races. There are probably about 14,000 planned cancelations coming in kentucky. About 50,000 across the country, maybe more. Some of these are the result of the president S Health Care law, some are just natural upheaval in the individual market. But i think the fascinating thing is that republicans arent jumping on this issue the way they promised to a were ago because obamacare has receded as a political issue at this point. Roland, is this baked in to the cake already, though, for
republicans and democrats and independents or could this have a Significant Impact as we move closer to the election. In terms of the Affordable Care act absolutely not the president has been running victory laps. For republicans you back away from it. The real issue for them i think moving forward is look a lot of democrats have had selfinflicted wounds and so youre really allowing them to be on the defensive while you go on the offensive and so republicans the numbers are there for them. Democrats right now are freaking out when it comes to black turnout for arkansas, North Carolina as well as louisiana, republicans are saying unless they get massive turnout which isnt the case in midterms they think they can take those three seats and so for them you dont just add more fuel to the fire you say you know what . You got it. Well leave it alone. Our numbers look too good to take back the senate. Jeremy. One of the things im hearing this has been demoralizing for republicans. They want to see their candidates fighting on obamacare
and they are not. Im wondering, your getting a sense that that may change . No. In fact were not expecting to it change prior to election day. We expect gop to broaden its message given roughly a year ago we were thinking this entire election would hinge on obamacare. Things can happen so quickly and clearly the party doesnt see it as the winning issue as it used to. The ads are all about isis. And since the National Security is going to be a good issue for them. Thats probably true. It almost seems like another time to see an ad about obamacare at this time. Like an old ad rerun by the state. Not that it wont have an impact, it clearly well but its baked in. You cant touch it anyway because you have republican governors who are cutting deals. Kasich in ohio. The problem is you have republican governors realize field goal i dont expand medicaid im screwed with health care so if you go against i want
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both emotionally and physically. A lot of bad things have happened over the past several months that all cant be put on her shoulders. So whats happened to the culture of the secret service over the past five or six years well, first of all, i dont believe that the secret service has a problem to the depth of some of socalled Security Experts are saying. Any organization that is challenged Like Secret Service is on a daytoday basis, they are going to have these challenges. They are going to have problems. And with all due respect, i think some of the thing that were highlighting i understand the feeding friendy aspect. I definitely understand even, you know, the media kind of jumping on it. Come on. Someone in an swraert the
president with a weapon who is not on the manifest. Who has a record. Who has a record. Theres no question, theres no excuse for that. That was a clear failure. If you were in charge and that happened on your watch well, i would take appropriate disciplinary action there. Someone did not do their job. Someone did not go to the, follow the protocols. Were you surprised at all . When you found there was somebody in the east room of the white house, when you heard that there were bullet holes in the glass in the white house, i mean did you say whats going on there . I think that it was a catastrophic failure on the 19th of september. The director pierson has said that. Ive said that. And clearly there was a huge breakdown there. And they need to get to the bottom of this and get to the bottom of this quickly. Lets ask you about that. We talked earlier about the
drills my dad had right when he got in the office. I keep hearing were going to get to the bottom of this and do investigations. Right now what should be happening in the secret service to make sure nothing like this ever happens again . I think that what they are doing right now. They are increasing look when you have the white house sitting in down opportune an urban area with a pickett fence, literally a pickett fence separating the public from 84, i think 80 yards to the front door of the white house, and we allow individuals access to that street and sidewalk, this individual got over that fence, into the white house in 29 seconds. 29 seconds. Thats just unacceptable. But im not making an excuse. They should have taken that individual down. They should have released the
dogs. Been shot . No, i dont agree with that. I do not agree with that. You want to make policy. I want to understand what taking him down. Thank you so much. We greatly appreciate it. I want to know more. Up next this secret service mess says something about the president s leadership . That debate ahead. Plus another Tense Exchange between u. S. And israeli officials, Andrea Mitchell joins us with Benjamin Netanyahus response. Thank you very much. Thank you, ralph. Im alex trebek. If youre age 50 to 85, i have an Important Message about security. Write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. The lock i want to talk to you about isnt the one on your door. This is a lock for your Life Insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. But be careful. Many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the Colonial Penn program. Call this number to learn more. This plan was designed with a rate lock for people on a fixed income who want affordable Life Insurance thats simple to get. Coverage options for just 9. 95 a month, less than 35 cents a day. Act now and your rate will be locked in for life. It will never increase, guaranteed. This is lifelong coverage that can never be cancelled as long as you pay your premiums, guaranteed. And your acceptance is guaranteed, with no health questions. You cannot be turned down because of your health. Call for your information kit and read about this rate lock for yourself. Youll also get a free gift with great information if youre retired or will be soon. Both are free, with no obligation, so dont miss out. Call for information, then decide. Read about the 30 day, 100 percent money back guarantee. Dont wait, call this number now. This is beyond the pale. And i listened to your testimony very deliberately here this morning. And i wish to god you, you protected the white house like youre protecting your reputation here today. The secret service against one individual with mental illness. And you lost. You lost. And you had three shots at this guy. Congressman steven lynch earlier this week fired off about Julia Piersons testimony about a string of secret service breaches. Congressman lynch is joining us from boston and hear in washington, congressman jack kingston. Jarks lets start with you. The white house hired this woman
for optics after the prosecution scandal. Thats what some are saying. Thats what our contacts are saying. Secret service and also inside the white house. Did they get what they deferred . I think theres a big question about that because i do think that she did not have the background that was needed to run the entire agency. She had a good career but probably post9 11 absolutely no protection. No experience with protective services and you cant play around with this. You had the situation in colombia and that was a Public Relations disaster but one of the statements that she was famous for making was that the secret service needed to resemble disneyland more. Thats not the case at all. We want these folks to be tough, we want them to be unmerciful, we want them to protect the president and his family and visitingdignitaries. Im not sure of the context
of that. Steven lynch, do you agree . The white house got what they wanted. They looked at the frat boy nature, the prostitute issue down in colombia and they brought in someone who was opposite of that behavior. The security issue was secondary i think. So, jack, where do we go next . What do we need to do next to make sure this doesnt happen again. What chairman mccall and john boehner talked about is having a Blue Ribbon Commission to figure out what to do. This wasnt the only time. I had an experience getting on the elevator by mistake with president bush. That alone should have been a big question. How does that happen by accident, somebody with a record getting on an elevator. With a weapon. So should be easy for us to
blame director pierson but obviously weve had one mistake after another after another after another. Isnt there a much bigger culture problem here . That actually might encourage terrorists across the world to take a shot at the president . I think so. I think so. I think we need to start at the very beginning. We need to look at what were doing in georgia and we got to make sure that what were training our agents for today is really the reality on the ground. I think in some sense the secret service may be fighting the last war, and we need to make sure that they are war gaming all these possibilities with terrorist groups looking at the white house, especially, you know, they must being a greatly encouraged now because we had one mentally ill gentleman able to get in the green room. So if this was a nefarious group with resources and a plan things could have gone much, much worse. Let me say this. You mentioned the federal Law EnforcementTraining Center in brunswick, georgia which is in my district. Im very familiar with it. They do a great job. There were five rings of security that were breached in this case. The secret service did not shut down the room, they did not lock it down, if you will, they did not raise threat level, there was an alarm that apparently had been put on mute. All the training in the world, you know, they were trained to do that. They did not follow their own protocol. They ignored it. Jack, thank you. Thank you both. Still ahead, a patient shows up at a dallas hospital complaining of fever and abdominal pain. Said he just traveled from africa. The hospital sends him home. There are some serious concerns about how ready the u. S. Is to hand tell ebola virus. Were going to talk to the nihs top expert on Infectious Diseases ahead. Get an Auto Insurance quote and see why 92 of our members plan to stay for life. You know your dunlike natural teeth. Try new fixodent plus true feel. The smooth formula helps keep dentures in place. Its free of flavors and colorants. For a closer feeling to natural teeth. Fixodent. And forget it. I know. This third shift is rough. Its just a few more weeks max what are you doing up . Its late. I just wanted to have breakast wih you. There is a broader review thats under way to determine what exactly happened that night, what was the secret Services Response to that incident, and what changes need to be made whether its staffing changes, whether it is Additional Technology that should be deployed to protect the president and white house. Are there some protocols that should be different, response to these incidents should protocols be changed. This is a pretty broad look that they are conducting. You know that whatever is going on mika, i didnt suggest they couldnt talk about it. I think i just gave a long
answer to it. What i wont be in a position to talk about are the details and security protocols in place. Your telling me this morning the president of the United States and first lady have confidence in Julia Pierson to run an agency thats suppose freezing drizzle text her two daughters yes, joe, they have confidence in them for the reasons i laid out. These are men and women who wake up every day, professionals prepared to put their lives im not talking about professionals. I think the professionals deserve to have better leadership than they have. Welcome back to morning joe. You have the worst poker face in the history of television. No. My face says what im thinking. Okay. Im sorry, josh earnest, i actually was trying to visit him today. I dont think hell have me. You can walk in. I dont understand its so funny. We were trying to get in here this morning and we had trouble get through the gate. Somebody said its, you know, its easier to get in the white house. Thats the new sort of fly. Who said that. Im not sure why they so vehemently defended Julia Pierson. The events speak for themselves. Im not even sure why she didnt resign before the hearing. I dont get it. People say that oh, you know, josh had to say what he had to say. He didnt. There are a thousand different ways to say that. Trust me, i can recall many times in which youre the pith of the sphere and you know something will be different in five hours. But youre there. A event jumper, im asking you, is the president safe and are there going changes in the secret service . Whats your answer. Is it like that . Heres the question. I think the president of course the president is safe. Have there been breakdowns. Absolutely. Lets be clear. They are standing out in front of the white house right,000. If we dont think they are safe somebody should call the national guard. Ron, you worked in the white house. Hold on. Im not defending the director. I think the director resigned appropriately. As i said last hour it would have been appropriate if she resigned two weeks ago. I think the press secretary gets put in awkward positions where they dont have all the answers. Thats the job. Is there a better way . You have grilled. Yeah. Ive been there. I can see the wheels moving. There are ways to do it without just there are. But the real issue here is, obviously, it is the president s security and people who work in the white house are they secure. Are the children secure . Really this is symptomatic were having at our government institutions and social institutions where its built
for another time and we have to look at things more than at that director. We have to look at things should they come out of dhs. Maybe we should promote people up the ranks. Maybe they should focus just on security. Andrea, you said back to treasury. After 9 11 everything changed. They created this mega, not just homeland, but 16 intelligence agencies. Ask anyone in intelligence and you know a lot of folks there where they are having a dni is a director of National Intelligence is better than when the cia was the standalone operation and reported directly. It is insane. There have been things that happened with the post9 11 reorganization. Their first job is counterterrorism. The day the president was killed. Im just saying. 24 hours ago what is wrong with saying these are serious breaches, they are being taken seriously, there will be serious
consequences and you can be sure this will never happen again. He did say a lot of that. Look no. No, he really didnt. He went through the fact that they are looking into you guys have an association where you guys drink beer at the end of the day. They have i like them. The reason they drink beer what you dont see in that is his feet are tap dancing. Theres a lot of times youre not given the lot and i dont know how many times i would go in the meetings and they said it would be good if you didnt get that question today. Guess what . This is leadership. Im sorry, i dont know Julia Pierson. She sat there. I could have testified to congress and had a worst brief and been more effective than she was. You know what john mccain said to me yesterday, he said andrea weve seen this movie before. Shes going to be gone. When youve lost someone like congressman cummings and we
respect her on the both sides of the aisle you lost her. Congress pulled them out of treasury and put them into this monstrosity. We should do oversight . What a concept. We have a lot of things to talk about. I see youre wearing the Detroit Tigers tie. We have the nats. The game two nights ago where the royals came back. I cant believe they came back and beat the as. Last night the giants obliterated the steelers. Last night this is just a heartbreaking picture on the front page of the New York Times. And we ask why ebola is spreading as quickly as its spreading. Here is here are two young
girls in the foreground, a 4yearold girl who they think had ebola. And talk about bodily fluid, theres human excrement on these floors where children are lying. Here the Washington Post where a little girls mother died from ebola and shes in isolation. The conditions, obviously cater to it spreading. Conditions are miserable. A lot of questions being asked this morning about the dallas hospital that sent a guy away who was throwing up, who had a fever and said i just came from liberia. That seems like maybe a misstep. Lets move on. The spread of ebola in america so far has been limited to one man. This morning there are concerns over possible new case. A patient in hawaii has been placed in isolation after showing symptoms consistent with the virus. Though its not confirmed. In Texas Health Officials are monitoring a second person who had been in close contact with duncan, five children are being kept home from dallas area schools and watched carefully and yesterday parents of other students in those districts plugged their kids from school to have them tested. Meanwhile Health Officials are scrutinizing dallass hospitals response to that case. Duncan tried to get help on september 26th complaining of fever and abdominal pain after returning from west africa. His travel information was overlooked and he was sent home with a diagnosis of a simple mild fever. His nephew says it wasnt until they called the cdc two days later that duncan was treated appropriately. Hes in our prayers, and we are really praying for him. Hell have a lot of work to do when he gets out and everybody is praying and rooting for him. I know the whole nation is
rooting for him. Regretfully that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team and as a result the full import of that information wasnt factored into the clinical decisionmaking. Now Health Officials are tracing who duncan came in contact with. At least ten people. He departed monrovia. Days before duncan left liberia he reportedly helped an intented pregnant woman carrying her by the legs to a cab to get her to a hospital but she was turned away for lack of space and later died. The story also says her brother, pregnant womans brother also helped carry her i think by the other leg. And hes passed away as well. Just think about how bad the
situation might be if this man, if mr. Duncan hadnt picked up the phone and called the cdc. We were just saying but he did it, thank goodness, and he was the responsible party here. But hospitals have absolutely. A direct responsibility. I think they all have the message. I would be very surprised if this happens again. From bethesda, maryland, we have the director of noogs institute of allergies and infectious disease, dr. Anthony fauci. So, doctor, thank you for being with us. Can we be assured that hospitals in their home towns will ask all the right questions, and act appropriately moving forward in the way this dallas hospital did not well, i hope so. I think this will certainly serve for the rest of the country as a very cogent lesson learned. The cdc over the last several weeks to months have been really
putting out the message that when people come in with symptoms that are compatible with ebola its important to ask for a travel history and factor that in to what your decision is. Unfortunately that didnt happen in this case. I think we need to put that behind us and look ahead to make sure that in the future this doesnt happen again. Andrea mitchell is here and has a question. Dr. Fauci, youve made the point and i think its important to emphasize that it is containable in our society, unlike these horrific pictures of children on the streets in liberia. Tell us, again, about how difficult it is to catch this, given our own experiences here in america. Well, its important for the public to understand that. We have said for some time now its certainly feasible and its happened to prove the feasibility somebody will get on
a plane in a west african country, being infected with no symptoms, have no symptoms, come here, land in the states and wine up appearing at an emergency room. Thats exactly what happened. The important thing is when youre not symptomatic, when you dont have any symptoms history shows us its not transmitted that way. So when the person was Walking Around not only when he was on the plane but even for the four days from the 20th of september to the 24th when he had no symptoms, that is a situation where its not transmitted. However, when he became symptomatic people who came into contact with bodily fluids such as when they get sick, some vomit, some bleed, thats the risk. The reason im saying there wont be an outbreak here. There maybe another case. May be one of those contabts that that person came into contact at actually will get infected ultimately. What the cdc does and they do it very well is what is called Contact Tracing. Which means you take everybody
that that person came into contact with. You identify them and monitor them for 21 days. Lets go to Cokie Roberts. Thats whats happening in dallas. The airplane you say. Theres no need to get all those people that were on that airplane. No, theres not. Because the person was clearly without symptoms. Not only on the airplane. But for four days after he got off the airplane. Then the history so thats not a rob. Cokie wants to know if she has to worry about going to Dulles Airport. I dont think theres a problem with Dulles Airport. Youve never been to Dulles Airport. All right. Thank you so much, doctor. Doctor, before you leave, i want to ask you one other question. . Enterovirus a lot of little kids getting this mystery illness. And we now hear that four have died. I got a young boy that has asthma. And obviously im concerned. A lot of parents are concerned about this mystery disease. What can you tell us . Well, its important if you have a child that has asthma because first of all this is really quite an explosion. There have now been more than 40 states that have had this outbreak of this enterovirus d 68. Its a particularly nasty virus particularly in children who have a predisposition to asthma because it with cause respiratory distress to children. So we got to be careful and thats reason why we say have children wash their hands as much as possible. Stay away from kids who clearly have a respiratory illness. And if the child is sick make sure the child does not go to school. Thats probably the best thing to do. 40 states . 41 states at least. All right. Thank you so much, doctor. Greatly appreciate it. Well be right back. You guys stick around if you can. Andrea stay with us. Still ahead on morning joe much more independent outspoken senator Bernie Sanders joins us in the next hour. I want to talk about how another independent from kansas may be joining him very soon. Plus a marine trapped in mexico. New hope for a release in the coming weeks. Up next guilty of murder after a dispute over loud music. How long will michael dunn be behind bars for killing an unarmed teenager. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. Theres confidence. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. Its no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. And during the big tire event, get up to 140 in mailin rebates on four select tires. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. For better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. And you pay no taxes for ten years. From biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo. Startupny has new businesses popping up across the state. See how startupny can help your business grow at startup. Ny. Gov
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papers. Well start with the Florida Times union the man who shot and killed a teenager during a dispute over loud music will spend the rest of his life behind bars. A jury found michael dunn guilty of first degree verdict in the 2012 shooting death of 17yearold jordan davis. The conviction comes after jurors in the first trial couldnt agree on whether there was a specific and premeditated intent to kill. In florida first degree murder carries a mandatory life sentence. Thomas . We look at the hartford current gang and sandy hook elementary school. Evacuated on wednesday following a bomb threat. No device was found. However the students were sent home as a precaution. Officials say they are still investigating the source of that threat. All right. The jackson clarion ledger, political blogger who snapped photos of Thad Cochrans wife as she laid in her nursing home was indicted. Back in may Clayton Kelly was
charged with exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Photo voyeurism and conspiracy. New charges include burglary and attempted burglary. Kelly who is an aspiring political blogger and supporter of Chris Mcdaniel remains free on bail. We look at this one from the new york post. Top hollywood attorney is threatening to file a Million Dollar lawsuit against google over the celebrity hacking scandal involving nude pictures. The lawyer who represents famous clients says google is making millions from the victimization of women claiming the images are still online weeks after they went public and hes demanding the public immediately remove those photos. Even comparing the sites response to how the nfl dealt with the ray rice controversy. Still up . They are still up. I thought they would be down by now, mika. Go ahead, thomas. Some people saw it. Can i ask you a question,
because, you know, we got a detroit tiger fan here. Im sure he would love to know if the naked pictures of their star pitcher is still up. Thats beside the point. They will beat the orioles. They will not beat the orioles. I have no comment on naked pictures. They will not beat the orioles. They will not beat the orioles. Okay. Your mom didnt want jesse severe la verlander to do that either. Move on. The orioles will win. Anyway. Yes. A lot of little boys out there want to be just like their dads and 8monthold hadley is no different. Take a look at this little guy. Hes going to be the hulk. Paint him green, hes the hulk. How funny is that . Thats so cute. So cute. Thats a good one. I like it. Coming up that was a lot of fun. You know what was not fun . Interviewing netanyahu. Andrea mitchells exclusive interview with israeli Prime Minister coming up. My gosh, well talk about a contentious set of events that led up to that interview. More morning joe straight ahead. Im alex trebek. If youre age 50 to 85, i have an Important Message about security. Write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. The lock i want to talk to you about isnt the one on your door. This is a lock for your Life Insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. But be careful. Many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the Colonial Penn program. Call this number to learn more. This plan was designed with a rate lock for people on a fixed income who want affordable Life Insurance thats simple to get. Coverage options for just 9. 95 a month, less than 35 cents a day. Act now and your rate will be locked in for life. It will never increase, guaranteed. This is lifelong coverage that can never be cancelled as long as you pay your premiums,
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this summer. Well go to andrea interview in a second. But andrea and i were talking before, we were shocked despite the new settlement announcement that you actually had josh earnest and jim talking going out and actually attacking the Prime Minister right after he left. It wasnt ugly in the meeting. It was tense and awkward. Then it got ugly as soon as he left. It was one of those hand shakes they are staring at each other in the eye. Then they do the pump. I timed it. Maybe 2. 1 seconds. Thats what it was. Nice rounding it. They said what had to be said about the very special relationship and all that and you can see that obama was tip toeing. Hes like dont let this guy blow like right here in the Oval Office Like he did previously. You dating somebody in college you want to get out of the restaurant before the explosion happens. Obama with his leg crossed. The president did say that the status quo is not acceptable in the peace talks. Gently. Could you see what was coming. Hours after the meeting the white house condemned what happened over in israel. Israels plans for new housing projects in East Jerusalem calling it a provocative act. That toledo a stern response from the Prime Minister in an interview with our own Andrea Mitchell. You had a meeting with the president and white house and state department say that the new settlements in East Jerusalem undercut your commitment to peace. That it could poison the atmosphere. It could turn the world against you. What is your response to that when the president says that to you . I think you should be aquainted with the facts. First these are not settlements these are neighborhoods of jerusalem. We have arab neighborhoods and jewish neighborhoods. When you walk out of the white house and two hours later the White House Press secretary and state Department Spokeswoman both slam israel, talk about poison. How does that make you feel . It doesnt make me feel good. I think the important thing is to get the facts right. I mean start with the facts. You think president obama has the facts wrong . We didnt discuss it. I have to tell you. There was a generic statement. We didnt get into these specific instances. All right. Andrea mitchell, where do we go from here and talk about iran if you could as well. The relationship is just so fraught. During the whole gaza war the president was getting angrier and angrier. We overheard john kerry say thats some pell of a pinpoint operation after the u. N. Shelter was bombed. So they are coming its mars and venus. Theres no coming together. And netanyahu is trying to cover it up and say, well, we didnt discuss it but clearly its out there, and on iran they have completely different views about iran. He says iran is isis, isis is iran, he dismisses rouhani has
no power. Whats the military option youll take them out. He said well i dont deal with that. I said youre the one that does deal with that. He said we just reserve our options. What does he want . Everybody would say they want peace, right . Who . All the players in the game here. All the players. Yeah. They have different definitions. They have different definitions. Obviously, dana, as you look through this and you read your article and you watch the interview, you wonder how the United States can be a broker if the president s own people are going out and condemning israel for this. This administration has given up on that idea. When your secretary of state is accused by israel of launching a strategic terrorist attack on them, each administration in the past few started out saying okay
were the guys, well solve this problem and nobody has for decades. They enter it, it looks promising for five minutes and then the whole thing deteriorates. Thats why hill ray stayed out of it. Were back where we are. Ron, youre obviously covering the Bush White House for a while. The Bush White House from the beginning and i actually agreed with them, they said well get involved in a Peace Process when both sides actually act like they want to be involved in a Peace Process. Same thing with Hillary Clinton. And you just wonder if that isnt the stance the United States should make because if you go chasing after peace like john kerry did, and, you know, maybe that was a good earnest thing to do, this ends up. I think the Bush White House and Hillary Clinton learned a little bit from bill clinton who did chase peace and it didnt turn out very well in the end. Its a tough issue. I wonder if israel if you know, you can see what they are
doing in the short term. We really have to protect our security and play to our domestic concerns. Long term do they understand how look at these polls that show how young people in the world view israel. Its a long range postarab spring what netanyahu said to the u. N. , to the president and to me yesterday is that the arab leaders, the saudis and egypt are closer to him and now are willing to help support a Peace Agreement that they have these new arab allies. If thats the case you sit here and wonder. Because i believe that is the case. But if thats the case, then why announce new settlements. Why take the cheap shot and ill call it that as a long time supporter of israel, im sure i can find my key to tel aviv somewhere. If you have hamas on the run, if you that have moderate arab states on your side why provoke . Why get in the way of a positive step forward by announcing
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of parents are nervous this morning, not planning to send their kids to school. In an exclusive interview we did with the nephew of the patient said Hospital Personnel put people at risk by not taking this case seriously enough. Hes doing all right. Hes a fighter. Hes still fighting. Reporter this morning the nephew of 42yearold Thomas Eric Duncan is making explosive new allegations accusing Texas Health Presbyterian hospital of dallas not taking the ebola threat seriously. When duncan walked into the er last friday he told the nurse he came from liberia. That information was not fully communicated. Reporter he was sent home with antibiotics. By sunday ambulance took him to the same hospital. Doctors still werent treating dunn condition like a potential ebola patient. The nephew said he called centers for Disease Control himself. I called cdc again, some action was taken because i was concerned for his life. And he wasnt getting appropriate care. And i was fearing i feared other people might, you know, also get infected if he wasnt taken care of. Reporter we now know duncan traveled from liberia to brussels to Dulles Airport in washington, d. C. To dallas. One he fell sick he came into contact with up to 18 people. The only lose contact were aware of this patient is with his immediate children. And his wife. And so now were looking at close friends. Reporter on wednesday the School District sent letters to parents telling them five students are now being monitored because they may have had contact with duncan. They were in school earlier this week. Do you know when they started staying home from school . Today. You got to remember if the children have not shown any symptoms and the only way this transmission happened is when you are showing the symptoms. Reporter their classmates are safe their classmates are safe. Reporter parents rushed to take their Children Home early. I started crying. I was hysterical. I just wanted to get to my kids. So i went and got them and i feel much better when i got them. Reporter we reached out to the hospital for a statement. We reached out the state Health Department and so far have not had any response to the nephews allegations. Kate snow reporting there outside of the hospital there in texas where this patient is being treated. Again, a big update there from kate and being informed about the family who is being told to stay at home. 80 people may have been exposed to this man during that 72 hour window of time where he was let loose from the hospital out of their care before coming back. Is this an overreaction . I dont blame anybody at this point. At this point the hospitals cant overreact. At this point the hospitals when somebody comes in, they have conditions, traveled recently from africa, at that point you call the cdc and you start moving quickly. 80 people now possibly exposed
because of the mistake of a hospital. I dont say that to knock the hospital. I say that to warn every other hospital in america were in dangerous times if this isnt taken care of. If youve ever been there everybody is doing everything they can. Its trying to stop the dike. The right protocols in place. And they know to ask the right questions and when you have the right answers or the wrong answers to those questions. Every hospital worker must know. You immediately move on it. Its not rocketcy pennsylvania. Lawmakers are optimistic a marine veteran detained by mexican authorities since march 31st will be released to u. S. Officials in the coming weeks. Sergeant Andrew Tahmooressi has spent the last six months in a prison in mexico after making a wrong turn in Southern California and accidentally crossing the border. But in his truck, which was packed with everything he owned,
there were three guns and several rounds of ammunition. Although the weapons were registered in the u. S. , tahmooressi now faces charges in mexico. Yesterday his mother recalled the days of her sons arrest during testimony on capitol hill. March 31st, sorry, 11 25 this year, mom, i got lost. I made a wrong turn. I am at the mexican border. You need to know this because ive been surrounded by military. In case anything happens to me i need to let you know where i am. The following morning, april 1st, 2014, mom, ive been arrested. Please secure me an attorney. April 5th, mom, im not going to make it through the night. Whatever you do do not come down here to investigate. Do not come down here to ask
questions. You will be killed as well. I need you to go underground. I need you to cancel your bank accounts. Let the Broward Sheriffs Office know. Im not going to make it through the night. Mom, dont come down to investigate. Earlier this week two psychiatrists told a judge that tahmooressi suffers from ptsd. His attorney contends the marine should be released on humanitarian grounds citing a lack of mexican resources to treat the disorder. With us now the chairman of the house estimate that did the hearing on the sergeants case, congressman matt salmon. Hes spoken with the mexican attorney general to expedite the marines return to the United States. Matt, this is a story some people have been following a lot lately. Why has the u. S. Marine been down in mexico for six months and we havent acted on it more quickly than now. Thats a great question. I cant give you a great answer
as far as why the administration hasnt done anything to weigh in. In fact, one of the juxtapositions that was raised yesterday is how he invested so much to get bergdahl released, yet this marine who served two tours of duty in afghanistan and is a her jobs hes done nothing. Are we moving closer to a possible release . I think so. Right after the hearing the ambassador from mexico called me and i think it was a very positive conversation, and my expectation is that within the next couple of weeks hell be freed. Ron . The administration were talking about that they have been making high level contact, havent been very public about it. You have to be graceful with diplomacy. I wonder why and i do commend you for having this hearing. It could help free him. Why didnt congress have a hearing five months ago . I think five months ago we were optimistic at that time when i first visited him in prison, i actually visited him twice. I think we were pretty optimistic that things would
move in the right direction. Why havent they why havent they . Yeah. What does mexico have to gain. At the time our state Department People who i met with, the consulate in tijuana, they said that things were moving in the right direction and they were pretty optimistic. Why blame the administration. Weve been jerked around for several pose now and my feeling was its way pastime to get this young man out of prison. And i wanted to shed some light on it. Jeremy . Switching gears i want to talk about isis and congress. Now john boehner had said there are no isis members in congress. That we know of. Right. That we know of. You watch homeland you might have a different answer. But john boehner has said he doesnt think that congress should debate a war resolution in the lame duck but as you know this congress has been famous for punting these issues on down
the road so they dont have to deal with them. Right. Do you think that john bone certificate wrong. I think it should be as experiod dexpe experiod die fast as possible. I think our viewing that the one that was that was a decade old still applies is not a good argument. I think would you vote to repeal that . No. I would vote to gave new authorization of force. As you and i spoke before, i think that congress and the white house need to really come clean with the American People. I think that whats going to happen after november is troops, our Ground Troops will start going in to syria. The fact is despite the president s promys. He promised if you like your insurance you can keep it. Come on. Look at you going back to obamacare. Joe, the better
the better way to put it is he promised it was about humanitarian aid in the beginning. Thats more of the slippery slope. The president will do what the president has to do. Ultimately, if were going to be victorious and make sure that isis is never a threat again to us, then its going to take all options on table. Yeah. And ive said this before, and i think that waiting until after the election to do that or mass amnesty, whatever is i think we should lay it on the table. We should lay it on table right now. Okay. All right. Congressman matt salmon thank you very much. Coming up, his films are beloved by millions you didnt give matt that look. Hold on a second. I was befuddled by what you were saying. You were or was not i was not therefore you didnt get the look. Anyhow, it was worst in that
josh earnest interview. Like that one right there . Look thats full and complete confidence with the director. Stop. Theres this adam sandler story coming up next. Okay. Your customers, our financing. Your aspirations, our analytics. Your goals, our technology. Introducing synchrony financial, bringing new meaning to the word partnership. Banking. Loyalty. Analytics. Synchrony financial. Enagage with us. Therlike a new meticulouslyones engineered german sedan. Finely crafted. Exactingly precise. Desire for such things often outpaces ones means. Until now. Hey matt, new jetta . Yeah. Introducing lots of new. The new volkswagen jetta. Isnt it time for german engineering . President obama will deliver remarks at the Congressional Hispanic Caucus institute 37th annual awards. Boy, im doing great. Will you help me out here . Thats the gala tonight. Here with us now, the cofounders of the polling and Research Film latino decisions. Very good to have you both with us. The coauthors of the new book latina america, how americas most dynamic population is poigsed to transform the politics of the nation. So, matt, lets start with you. Pretty fascinating statistic that you guys talk about. At some point in april of 2014, latino child born in the california hospital tipped the scales and made the latinos the number one Demographic Group in that state. Thats right. You say its going to happen in texas before 2020. The face, the democratic, demo
gr graphic face of america. Its irreversible. The first is were now hitting a shift in the population changes. Where the latino population is not growing as fast from immigration, its growing from u. S. Birthings. That is from the migration weve had in the last 20 years or so. These are u. S. Born latinas who are giving birth to u. S. Born latinos so thats going to continue happening well into the future. You guys study this, you poll it, you understand the mood. Its your job to understand the mood of the Latino Community in america. How does that Impact Politics moving forward . It is a very unhappy demographic, i would say. Its a very optimistic population. But the Political Climate has been toxic. Since the immigration debate has welled up. With the passage of laws, latinos feel like theyre under
attack. When laws say the police can ask for papers and identification, on the basis of we know not yet, even third and fourth generation latinos oppose those laws. While latinos have been trending demographic, if you look at the 2016 republican field, you have potential candidates on the republican side. How does that play in the Latino Community . Well thats, you know, something weve studied and thats in the book, something weve been looking at for a long time. Senator rubio has potential to make in roads. Hes changed his position now he is, hes back to he actually was pulling well. Senator cruz has not. He has not somehow resonated with some of those tea party positions. But rubio has potential to really help bring the party back if he sort of corrects course on
immigration. He was a very strong supporter during 2013 when the bill passed. I wouldnt hold your breath on that. Wow. Immigration aside, i talked to a lot of republicans who say, oh, demographics, you know, demographics. Hispanics are going to continue to be a bigger part of the voting population. I just dont buy it. I dont see any evidence that latinos are naturally democr democratic. I have no idea why you would say that because we poll them on everything under the sun and theres been a trope in the latino establishment. It turnsinos overwhelmingly dont vote on religious dont assume im talking about social issues. Im talking about economic issues. Ive always said to republican groups, when your message appeals to a 17yearold latino
voter in South Central l. A. As much as it appeals to a 65yearold hedge funder in greenwich, theyll start winning election, again. You have to find out what that message is. They believe in an active energetic and efficient government. They dont necessarily want a big government. They dont have faith in the free market. An efficient federal government. If the free market its up to the republicans i think, is it not . Are you saying the republicans should just pull up their tent poles and go home . I think a lot of republicans believe in an energetic efficient government. Its a messaging issue. Tell the 17yearold kid how shes going to get a job over the next three or four years. Or tell the 25yearold latino thats graduating from a Great College in california why she still dont have a job and give them hope. I dont think the republicans have done that. The area where i think youre exactly right is the area of entrepreneurship. Cell phone businesses. Starting up small businesses. We find record high levels of support. And thats an area where the republicans can make inroads. They have to stop saying the nasty things. There are some issues, yes youre saying, let me get this, youre saying republicans cant insult latinos and win elections . Not only are we saying it exactly. They said, if your first sentence is, we want you out of the country, we dont really care i think thats fair. Ive been very critical of karl rove and george w. Bush through the years. They were saying this in 1997. In 1997. They were obsessing about this. Joe, youre right. George w. Bush as governor understood this. Rick perry understood it until he turned backwards in that
debate. So you are right about this one. Yeah, that we got to go . Exactly. The book is latino america. Matt and gary, thank you so much. And this programming note. This years alma awards will air on msnbc highlighting the best american latino contribution, to music, tv and film. Thats friday october 10th at 10 00 p. M. Eastern time. Dont miss it. Up next, we need to be more like disney world. Im not sure if this is thats what the now former director Julia Pierson said of her vision for the secret service. Straight ahead. And mikas funny faces. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. Its no wonder last year we sold
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disease . If you have a lot of people who dont have washed hands and and look at the situation and youre in a terrible unsanitary situation, then its much easier to spread the disease. Which is why youre seeing any of the medical teams covered up, looking like theyre in, you know, on the moon. If you look at the pictures in the New York Times, even, you get a sense of the conditions of the victims, people suffering from it. I just got an email from rich besser, whos the abc doctor whos been over there, working with the kids. One of the kids he had followed died this morning. Its heartbreaking. He said, if that child were in america, that child would be alive. Really . Yeah. Thats what were dealing with. Were dealing with totally unprepared health systems. Totally unsanitary situations. In many cases, no water, or clean water. These are places where were capable of dealing with it here. That doesnt mean were not
going to see it again. No, it means we can handle it. The ability to quarantine somebody. Deal with infoectious disease his except for one thing. Roland. If our hospitals are following the proper protocol. One of the issues is, this hospital initially released him. Then he goes back out and so now youre going to hear him going through dulles, now being around schoolchildren as well. So part of this is is will american hospitals how will they recognize it and follow the right protocols. Thats the real issue right there. Because a hospital in dallas released him and he was gone for three days. Released him, yeah, it was n unbelievable. All right, lets move on to the top story. The Washington Post is doing an extraordinary job. I mean, you know youre doing a
great job when the head of the secret service has to call the president of the United States because they know the post is about to tell him something they dont i mean, the last time that happened, bill had to wake up hillary and, you know, say, hey, somethings about to break in the newspaper. Im serious. Can you believe she didnt tell the president of the United States there was a guy with a gun in the elevator with him . Im going to rewind back 24 hours. I just am surprised that the white house, you know, appeared on our show today, you know, gibb, maybe you can explain, josh earnest. Please, explain to me how they could so vehemently defend yeah, the morning josh earnest was on well have to go to the video. And he was defiant. No, we have total confidence in in director. And capture, if you could, my face. Because i couldnt even think of
another question to ask him because the conversation seemed so needlessly by the way, we found out this is really something. You can talk to this, okay. I like him. I once said this of a campaign person who lied to me. I called the person up. Okay, so let me ask you this, did you not think the sun was not going to rise the next morning . Did you not think i wasnt going to have a tv show to tell everybody you guys lied through your teeth to me . Dont be stupid. You dont have to lie. Josh didnt have to come on yesterday beating his chest when they already knew shed lost confidence by not telling the president. Members of the Democratic Party in the house were saying she needed to go. Right. Yeah. Losing confidence and resigning i think are two different things, right . I think josh would probably tell you right now he did not know
she was going to resign. He did not know but thats not the question. The question mika asked, and this is why it was such a confusing response from him. You asked, does the president have confidence they can still protect the first family. And why he would so unequivocally say yes seemed to me to just be you almost wonder if he had spoken to the president about this at all. But jeremy qualifications for the job the questions he may not have thats a problem for the roland, were going to go to you in a second. Were going to run this clip. Hopefully it has mikas mortified look after. Lets go to the tape. Are you telling me this morning the president and the first lady have confidence in pierson to run an agency thats supposed to protect their two daughters . Yes, joe, they have confidence in them, i think for the reasons ive laid out. These are men and women who wake up every day prepared to put their life im not talking about the profession professionals. I think they deserve better
leadership than they have. Theres responsibility that she takes very seriously. The white house staff and the president himself take this very seriously. The president has articulated hes concerned about the security around his family, as any parent would be. Okay, we dont have mikas face so ill just recreate it. I did ask four questions before joe asked that question. Its like this. That was your face. Like, what is this . And i roland, we just i dont know, that hurts his credibility moving forward i think. Actually it doesnt. That is the only response they can give. Youre talking about protecting the president. Also talking about conveying confidence to the American People. The president and josh earnest cannot come out and say, well, we really dont know, so you have to protect it. Youre going, what the hell are you doing. But no other choice but to do that. The person who must really be saying that is michelle obama. I mean, if i were she, i would
be so angry. My children are in there. And they are i mean, honestly, you know, our own houses are better protected. The elevator incident is perplexing because ive been in plenty of elevators with the president. The only people in the elevator with the president are people that are either in the secret services or people that the secret Service Knows exactly who they are. Well, theres a manifest as carol lee said, wall street Journal White House correspondent, she said, it seems even more preposterous when we the media had to get there live four hours beforehand, because everybody was shut down. And then they let this guy amble on with a gun. Well, that actually was what did it with this resignation what im hearing from sources very close to the white house. Pierson, Julia Pierson, the director of course, resigned
yesterday, telling Bloomberg News, quote, i think its in the best interest of the secret service of the American Public if i step down. Congress has lost confidence in my ability to run the agency. The media made it clear this is what they expected. Officials say Officials Say well, ill tell you. President obama lost faith after learning he shared an elevator last month at the cdc with an armed man with a criminal record. Pierson only told president obama moments before it was reported. I can tell you, though, that the white house first learned of that incident yesterday afternoon, shortly before it was reported, before it was publicly reported. The agency did foot tell the white house about it. He didnt know about it until yesterday. Until it was reported publicly, thats correct. Weve seen recent and accumulating reports raising questions about the performance the agency. And the president concluded new
leadership of that agency was required. So what weve gotten from sources close to the white house and the secret service is that there were three options to replace the secret Service Director who was being removed. And it was an africanamerican, a man, and woman. And they went with the woman because the optics would be better. For the optics. Thats number one. Number two, the thing that really led to this was not the white house fence jumper but the elevator. And she didnt bring that up to him when they first met about the fence jumper. Theyre supposed to be. When the president is in the room, theres a manifest. Everybody in that space with the president is supposed to be on it. And this guy with the weapon and a record. And a record. Was on an elevator in the cdc with the president. Shooting video. Oh, my god. Shooting video of the president. He pulls a camera out. Thank god he was just shooting video. Robert. I do think first of all, having worked with the secret service for four years, i always was struck by the utmost professionalism. These are people that sign up to stand in front of the president if something goes horribly wrong. I know joe clancy. I think joe is a fabulous interim pick. I would not be surprised. My apologies to both joe and his family if he doesnt get pushed and pulled to stay on as a more permanent director. I think joe is going to have a lot of confidence among the agents. But lets just pause for one second on the resignation. A Security Apparatus is literally has to be strong everywhere, right . Director pierson was not at the white house. Somebody would previously had been at the white house. Happened to turn into i think there clearly were a series of security lapses that september 19th. We actually had two guys down on constitution, on constitution, who said theres gunfire, and somebody said no, it was backfire. They said no, theres a shooting. I agree there has to be and there should be a change in leadership. Right. Again, this is Everybody Needs to be shaken up. My dad told a story last night, just at the table about when he first got his job. Said, you know, what about this threat were facing. We need to make sure the president can get out of here. They said, we can get him out of here in two minutes. He said really, lets do it right now. He called everyone on it. Everybody had to rally and the chopper had to get in place. Took them much longer than they thought. He did a drill completely unexpectedly. They put threefoot fences up. Id start doing drills. Id catch people with their pants down right and left and fire them and figure it out. I was struck by the fact in the hearing, 116 people over the past five years have climbed the fence. Now, im not a security expert, and im not trying to be flip, but i think the first thing i would do is build a bigger fence. Lets get jeremy in here. My colleague did reporting on this and found the fence is actually an historic artifact so you cant tear it down. Well, you could tear it down. The secret services culpability here is clear. What about the white houses handling of this . Doesnt look to be the most deft crisis management. Now theyre leaking things about how this woman was not their first choice. Not professional. You have to look at the choice, regardless. One of the things, in joshs defense, all too often. I was in some of these meetings. Specifically with joe. Theres a small circle of people that are going to get read into the security movements of a president for obvious reasons. Josh may just not have known exactly what was happening. That doesnt mean josh is uninformed by any means. To read the story on saturday night or sunday morning. To understand we didnt know how far that person got into the white house until the eve of the shooting. Its incumbent upon the secret service. And lied to us about it too. Josh said this, theyve got to be much more transparent. Not in the way that compromises security. They dont need to lie. This mornings Washington Post, also, mika, has more details. About piersons time. The report says severe staffing shortages grew under her watch. Pierson rejected a study that called for 100 Surveillance Officers to patrol the white house. She urged for far fewer. This week, pierce be honored a request to open a street near netanyahus hotel. The mayor had traffic concerns. Even though the street has been closed for years to prevent a possible attack. Officials say pierson also reopened streets and removed layers of fencing when president obama hosted the u. S. Africa Leaders Summit earlier this year. They say pierson who worked as a costume character at disney world as a teen, said, we need
to be more like disney world. She didnt say that, no, she didnt. I think theyre making that up. Theyre making that up. It is true that sometimes the security drives you completely nuts. And theres been a lot of overreaction in washington. Shutting down pennsylvania avenue and all of that. Which shows you. Shutting down pennsylvania avenue only apparently but do you really need to be more like have you ever been to of course i have, many times. Mika hasnt, she wants to know what its like. I went and i left immediately, okay, the people stop, stop. No, im not like goofy on pennsylvania avenue some time later today ridiculous things, talking about 30 look, she had a 30year service with the secret service so its not quite fair to talk about her as a teenager. The fact is, this was a major, major failure. Still ahead on morning joe,
he is not happy with the Obama Administration and hes not scared of Hillary Clinton. Bernie sanders is with us later this hour. Thats one way to describe it. Up next, the world respond too late . What needs to happen now that the ebola virus is spreading beyond west africa. But first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. We had that classic battle. Fall is moving in, summer is moving out. Were getting thunderstorms. 40 Million People at risk of Severe Weather today, including st. Louis, chicago, in the dallas area. Already this morning, we have storms over missouri and oklahoma. It will get worse as we go throughout the day. Heres the area of concern. Not everyone is going to get hit. If youre in this region, you have a chance of seeing widespread wind damage, large hail and damage and also isolated tornadoes. The best chance of any tornadoes today unfortunately is arkansas. If youre in the little rock area, you need to keep an eye on the weather, especially this afternoon. Later tonight, memphis and indianapolis. Also in the northeast, visibilitys poor. Weve had an ocean storm for two days. Been miserable weather up there. Southwest new england, especially cape cod and boston. La guardia, onehour delays because of the low visibility. The other story is on the west coast. L. A. , 93 today. We all know how horrible the drought is. This is a late season, 101 in l. A. On saturday, very dangerous fire condition, through the weekend. A shot of a drizzly, kind of dreary new york city. Onehour flight delays should improve as the day goes on. Youre watching morning joe. Well be right back. You want to cut through the noise of an overwhelming amount of analysis. [ all talking ] you want the insights that will help you decide which ideas to execute and which to leave behind. You want your trades executed in one second or less, guaranteed, and routed with institutionalquality technology. Look no further. Open an account and find more of the expertise you need to be a better investor. To map their manufacturings at process with sticky notes and string, yeah, they were a little bit skeptical. What they do actually is rocket science. High tech components for aircraft and fighter jets. Were just their bankers, right . But financing from ge capital also comes with expertise from across ge. In this case, our top lean process engineers. So they showed us who does what, when, and where. Then we hit them with the important question why . Why put the tools over there . Do you really need those five steps . What if you can do it in two . Whoo, thats an interesting question. Ideas for improvement started pouring out. With a little help from us, they actually doubled their output speed. A hundred percent bump in efficiency. If you just need a loan, just call a bank. But at ge capital, were builders. And what we know. Can help you grow. Trying to mislead you about the effects of proposition 46. Well heres the truth 46 will save lives. It will save money too. Im bob pack, and im fighting for prop 46 because i lost my two children to preventable medical errors and i dont want anyone else to lose theirs. The three provisions in 46 will reduce medical errors and protect patients. Save money and save lives. Yes on 46. All right. We had a busy night last night. You know how when you have a lot kids that are really busy and youre running event to event . Last night, at the phillips collection, thats my mothers bench featured there at that incredible institution. My mother did an event, talking about her new book, the lure of the forest. And her incredible body of work. And we had a great audience. And she was fantastic. And, as you know, her work is is unbelievable. Its on display right now. At the phillips collection as well as the krieger museum in washington. I had to dash other because your dad. My dash is being honored at the center of strategic and international studies. Theyve opened up the brzezinski
institute, which is focused on geostrategy. And he spoke and had a wonderful time, actually able to make it to both events. It was wonderful. Im not sure how to keep up with these two. Youre a lucky woman. I am, so proud. You walk into the Brzezinski Institute, you go in, and he goes, welcome. I walk in and there must be detectors. You know you are stunningly superficial no. Just for me, for me. It was a wonderful dinner. Im glad we were there for a few minutes. Now, the morning papers. We have thomas in new york as well for that. Well start, thomas, with the st. Louis dispatch. Prosecutors in st. Louis are ininvestigating allegations of misconduct in the grand jury investigation into the death of michael brown. A twitter user claimed to have inside knowledge into the case, saying, quote, i know someone
sitting on the grand jury of this case. There isnt enough at this point to warrant an arrest. The post and twitter account were quickly deleted. The grand jury has been looking at this case. If there was a breach, the entire process would have to start over. We look at the usa today. They are talking about mcdonalds launching a new menu item as the fast food wars are heating up in japan. Mickey dees are going to be selling a limited Edition Black burger. Appears to be no match for the burger king version. Thats disgusting. All black buns, the cheese and special squid ink sauce. Who would eat that . Mcdonalds features a bun dyed back. This is worse than green beer on st. Patricks day. Theres still no word if the burgers will come to the u. S. But if they do, we will have a morning joe eatoff contest
right here on the set. No. That would be the worst Japanese Invasion since pearl harbor. Just keep your burgers over there, please. I want to see them in person. I just want to see them in person up close. Why . No, you dont. This from the l. A. Times. Netflix has reportedly signed a deal with adam sandler. Its going to have the comedian and actor producing and starring in four films for the streaming site. The first could arrive as early as next year. Its something netflix has really gotten into, the original content business. What would be great, mika has been asking for happy gilmore 2 and 3 and this could finally get around to doing that. Lets look at fortune. Billionaire Richard Branson has given his personal staff, nearly 200 people, unlimited vacation days. The chairman and founder of virgin group says the staff is free to take off whenever they want for as long as they want. And they dont need to get manager approval. This was an idea inspired by a similar policy at netflix. The new rules are going to apply to those in virgins head office. If the policy is successful, sir richard is going to encourage the companys subsidiaries to adopt that policy as well. How do we get them to buy our company . I know. Im applauding the day. Is there a virgin tv group . Weve been talking about the Ebola Outbreak in west africa. In confirmation the virus has now jumped to america. Joining us now, time magazines Health Director shiven oconnor. With the new cover time. Chasing ebola. Its potential damage here in the u. S. Thanks for being on. The question, obviously, the conditions in areas in west africa are horrific. And lead to the virus spreading. Are we certain, though, about containment here in the u. S. . Can we really unequivocally say we wont see x amount of cases . The thing about ebola that is important to realize is we actually do know how to contain the virus. Theres a very straight forward protocol. Given the resources that we have and the resourcerich country like the United States with a Great Health Care system, we can contain this case, no question. Hes in isolation. Contact tracing is the best practice, which means going out to every Single Person hes had contact with and monitoring them for 21 days as well. In the hands of the cdc, this can be contained. Front page of the Washington Post talks about ebola misstep in texas. Do you think the mistake of the texas hospital is probably going to change the game for other hospitals across the u. S. . I think it sounds the alarm. The first and most important thing is the patient be in isolation as soon as possible. But hopefully that wont be happen the next time someone shows up with hemorrhagic fever. Give me the stat. Five people an hour in sierra leone. Contracting the disease. So it is really, you know, its spreading like crazy. You know, one of the really sad things africa was doing pretty well. There was a lot of good news coming out of africa. And now this has set back those countries for a generation. Well, earlier this morning, i read in the New York Times, everybody jumped on me on. Trying to embrace your newspaper and everybodys act like i just crawled out of a sewer. I heard no. But in that story, you have this poor woman, this 19yearold pregnant woman has ebola, rushed to a hospital there, and they turn her away. She goes home seven months pregnant and died at home a few
hours later. Theres just an infrastructure problem. Theres a terrible infrastructure problem. The answer in some ways, how do we not have it spread here, is weve got to have a surgeon in that infrastructure in west africa. Because its not being generated here unless you come into contact with somebody who has it. That person came from west africa. That is obviously where this has started. Thats the place where we have to correct it. The u. S. Military is setting up a hospital. Usaid is sending in a lot of money. Organizations like save the children are going in. The new time cover, chasing ebola. Thank you very much. Coming up, a downright scary start to the month of october on wall street. Will the u. S. Markets rally today . First, a battle of two nice guys
where it is about to shake things up. Morning joe will be right back. Im alex trebek. If youre age 50 to 85, i have an Important Message about security. Write down the number on your screen, so you can call when i finish. The lock i want to talk to you about isnt the one on your door. This is a lock for your Life Insurance, a rate lock, that guarantees your rate can never go up at any time, for any reason. But be careful. Many policies you see do not have one, but you can get a lifetime rate lock through the Colonial Penn program. Call this number to learn more. This plan was designed with a rate lock for people on a fixed income who want affordable Life Insurance thats simple to get. Coverage options for just 9. 95 a month, less than 35 cents a day. Act now and your rate will be locked in for life. It will never increase, guaranteed. This is lifelong coverage that can never be cancelled as long as you pay your premiums, guaranteed. And your acceptance is guaranteed, with no health questions. You cannot be turned down because of your health. Call for your information kit and read about this rate lock for yourself. Youll also get a free gift with great information if youre retired or will be soon. Both are free, with no obligation, so dont miss out. Call for information, then decide. Read about the 30 day, 100 percent money back guarantee. Dont wait, call this number now. John denver. I love that song. Im a sucker. Every time i hear this song, i just hear it up. I always tweet randomly like once every nine months, you know. That would be a poor man who never saw an eagle fly. It was definitely a soundtrack for our road trip. Kasie is joining us. Theres a lot of movement in some key races this morning. President obama of course won colorado easily in 2012 but now his unpopularity is making it tough for senator mark udall to keep his seat. Kacie traveled to colorado over the weekend to catch up with both candidates. Hes a nice guy. My opponent mark udall is a very nice guy. Theres no disagreement. Mark udall and Carey Gardner are real nice guys. In one of the years closest
senate races, thats pretty much where the civility ends. The president of the United States was in colorado in july to host a fundraiser for mark udall. Mark udall was so ashamed of his record that he couldnt even show up with the president. Hes the tenth most right wing member in the house. Hes more conservative than former congressman crayo with which takes some doing. Thrilled when he ran against udall. His easy manner seemed like a good match for colorado. Udall is still trying to paint gardner as an extremist. A big smiles a nice thing. I think we all have big smiles. Your actions matter. Reporter the primary focus. Women. More than half of udalls ads have been focused on abortion and contraception. Gardner even championed an eightyear crusade to outlaw birth control. He backed away from a
initiative that could have outlawed popular forms of birth control. He supports making contraception available over the counter. Hed rather change the subject. Your name is still on the federal bill the life at conception act. There is no federal. That is two different pieces of legislation. I understand udall wants to run away from the failed economy. Do you still support the life conception act . Im still on the bill. Gardner wants to focus on udalls ties to president obama whos deeply popular in colorado. He tried to back away from the white house. Let me tell you, the white house, when they look down the front lawn, the last person they want to see coming is me. Ive challenged this white house on a whole set of policies where theyve been wrong. Doesnt make sense to they sayer th er thithey worry about . Id been a thorn in their side on the nsa, on the va, on
the cia. They havent always been happy to take my calls. Both sides do agree its been a close race since march and that it will stay that way through november. 40 days out, weve got a ground game here that weve never seen in a popular election. Still, its not clear it will be enough to withstand the National Head winds or whether the senator who once had to turn back from the senate of mt. Everest will come up short again. The point is to come home alive. Doesnt count if you touch the top of the mountain and you dont make it back to civilization. A couple of weeks ago, wed heard that mark udall was moving ahead in this race and, you know, this was breaking democrat. It looks like its tightened up again. It has. Its one of the only places where both sides openly acknowledge they have no idea how this is going to come out. Look at this guy. Rocky mountain man here. He looks like colorado. His opponent looks like a connecticut guy. And is this all do they believe internally that his numbers are trucked down, all because of the president . I think the president is the main problem at this point which is kind of a flip. Py would also see the governors race is impacting this. John hickenlooper is having problems over, particularly, the Death Penalty and also some gun control legislation. And how hickenlooper performed could impact this. Covered pat roberts in kansas, shifting gears here, sarah palin came in, a lot of things happened. And now we actually have the independent pulling ahead in a pu poll this morning. New usa today poll. When i was out there, in talking to both campaigns. Look at that, lead over pat
roberts since sarah palin came in last week. Its hard for roberts to make this a close race. I think at this point its a race against time to see whether or not pat Roberts Campaign can actually drive ormans numbers down. Theres a little bit counterconventional wisdom idea that maybe setting this up as a twoperson race turns orman into a democrat which ultimately doesnt work for him. You have a democrat on the rope and a republican on the ropes. Both for the same reasons. Its the antiwashington dysfunction year. And thats the only really unifying issue in any of these races. So you have pat roberts, it looks like hes been hang around in washington too long. And mark udall. And harry reid. Marks a nice guy. Another poll that came out, scott walker. Just yesterday, we were talking about how tight this race was. What do you make of this . Up by five points over mary
but. Mary but has stumbled. We talked about it. Stumbled a bit in the past. And maybe some of those stumbles are hurting her. Shes stumbling most recently over this plagiar system issue. Theres some questions about how significant this issue really is. But shes really struggled in how shes talked about it. She did a press conference with reporters. She sort of froze up in fryi it to explain what plagiarism was. And a really tough to say the least. Great job. Up next, hes got strong words for the president and a clear vision for what he thinks the countrys priorities should be. Senator Bernie Sanders joining us live next on morning joe. I love having a free checked bag. With my united mileageplus explorer card. I have saved 75 in checked bag fees. Priority boarding is really important to us. You can just get on the plane and relax. I love to travel, no foreign transaction fees means real savings. We can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the us. When i spend money on this card i can see brazil in my future. I use the explorer card to earn miles in order to go visit my family which means a lot to me. Press your tonguenture, against it like this. It moves unlike natural teeth. Do you feel it . It can happen with every denture. Introducing new fixodent plus true feel. It helps keep dentures firmly in place. With a smooth formula, free of flavors and colorants. So you get a closer feeling to natural teeth. New fixodent plus true feel. Fixodent. And forget it. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. With us now from burlington,
vermont, independent senator from vermont, Bernie Sanders. If youre going to iowa and New Hampshire in the next few week, are you running for president . No, youre not running for president. Senator, are you running for president . New hampshire, is just really nearby. Its a beautiful state across the river. Weve talked for some time about Hillary Clinton as a possible nominee, a woman who has close ties to wall street. In the traditional base on foreign policy. Does hillary need a challenger in 16 to have a full and vigorous debate . Let me just say this, i think in america, were not about anointing anybody. I think there are enormous problems in terms of income and wealth inequality. In terms of real unemployment
being 12 , youth unemployment 20 . In terms of disastrous Citizens UnitedSupreme Court decision which allows billionaires to buy elections. There are huge issues that i think the American People want to see discussed and that we need to see discussed. Were not about anointing people. Okay. Are you going to run . Im giving thought to it. What i have to determine, and thats why im going to iowa, going to New Hampshire, is whether in fact there is this kind of grassroots support that i would need to take on the billionaire class and the coke brothers. Bringing millions of people together to try to reverse the decline of the middle class, to deal with poverty, to take on the greed of wall street and the fact that some of the politicians are owned by big money interests. Its easy to give a great speech on that issue, mika. It is very hard to determine if youre serious and if you really want to win, whether you can mobilize people in the way that has to be done to be successful. Jeremy. Senator, good morning. Theres some differences in the Democratic Caucus right now about how to approach syria in combating isis. When you guys come back from your long recess, what are you going to push for . To see debated on the senate floor with regard to the war effort . Let me tell you what i think. Obviously, isis is a brutal and dangerous organization. But after 12 years of war in the middle east, it should be clear to all of us that it is not going to be the United States of america alone that is going to defeat isis. That the countries in the region, including saudi arabia, qata
qatar, and the other nations, including iran, are going to have to step up to the plate. Because if this is perceived as a war between the United States and isis, that doesnt work. It cannot be perceived as a war between christians and muslims. These guys have got to step up to the plate. Saudi arabia spends the fourth most amount of money on defense that any country more than the uk, more than france. Theyre going to have to get their hands dirty. Theyll have to jump into to conflict. It cannot be simply done by the United States. Turkey is going to have to be involved as well. Senator sanders, when you decide, will you announce here, please . If youre going to run for president the issue is not announcing. The issue is a serious discussion about how we rebuild a crumbling middle class. Thats what we do here. How to create the millions of jobs that we need. If youre going to talk about a serious discussion, you should probably go somewhere else. No, come here. If you want to be glib about it, come here. Since New Hampshires such a beautiful state, should i take my children to go skiing in New Hampshire this winter and stop going to vermont . No, New Hampshire is a very beautiful state, vermonts a little bit more beautiful. I love it. Very good. Senator Bernie Sanders, thank you so much. Well be right back with what we learned. Ok, if youre up there, i could use some help. Smart sarah. Seeking guidance. Just like with your investments. That sets you apart. It does . It does. Youre type e. And seeking another perspective is what type e s do. Oh, and your next handhold. Is there. You dont have to go it alone. E trade gives you the support and guidance to make informed decisions. Are you type e . Its time to talk about what we learned today. Mika, you got a call from a friend . Just talked to Dennis Mcdonough at the white house. He wanted to point out, by the way, our coverage by the way, dennis is everybodys friend. Its almost like youre at disney world, hes so nice. His point, the decision about pierson had not been made at the time josh was on our show yesterday. Pushing back a little bit. Because you had that funny look. Saying josh is a part of the team and back off. Yesterday, when the whole world knew all i did was look at him. That she was going to be fired. Stop. Theyre saying the decision had not been made. To that, i just go i cant do the face as well as you do the face. But anyway. All right. So were going to talk to him some more. We like josh. Its nothing personal. What did you learn . I learned robert gibbs is no sentimentalist and he would tear down that beautiful iron fence outside the white house. Its been there since like 1800. Yeah, what is wrong with him, it is history. That you love john denver. Oh, my god. I do too, dont tell anybody. Rocky mountain high, sweet surrender. Take me home country road. Im leaving on a jet plane. I want to do a take test. For the squid ink black burgers. And were going to do a contest and see which one tastes better. We thought what they did on december 7th, 1941, was bad. Thats horrific. Thats it for us. The daily rundown is next. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that wards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. Into one youll never forget. Earn triple points when you book with the expedia app. Expedia plus rewards. Important message for women and men ages 50 to 85. Please write down this tollfree number now. Right now, in areas like yours, people are receiving this free information kit
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