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As a nation, we are united and when people harm americans, we dont retreat, we dont forget. We take care of those who are grieving and when that is finished, they should know we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice, because hell is where they will reside hell is where they will reside all right. Mika, boy, what joe biden said yesterday, very strong. Im sure a lot of people, a lot of republicans on capitol hill have been calling for stronger words. It might take some of that. What do you think . I think he is tapping into a growing sentiment in a country that might be war weary but certainly is not impervious what we have seen the last two weeks. Sounds likes the guns of war across america. You heard the Vice President saying america would follow isis to the gates of he hell to get justice. The secretary of state says they dont want to contain is circumstances, they want to destroy isis. You know what is happening here, they are hearing from constituents who are concerned and you also know, because they are politicians, internal polling, obviously, showing americans want action now. Kay hagan she joined john graham and Lindsey Graham late night in a debate. Al franken sent a terse letter to the white house calling for military action and they were not alone. But you know what . There were more developments, i think, mika, yesterday that werent driven by political poles. The indianapolunited arab emira out. They are going to support america in any military action taken against isis. Also the Iraqi Parliament. You know what would have happened if we shot first and then asked questions later. Now they are begging us to take action. While its one thing to have kay hagan calling for a stronger use of force, americans asking questions first and shooting missiles later may actually lead to our country not having to go it alone again. Yes. As we protect other country survival. I got a question this morning and i hope its a question my republican friends will ask and i hope its a question john mccain and Lindsey Graham both will ask. I hope its a question that everybody who is calling for immediate action will ask for. Its one thing for kay hagan to say we need to move now and im angry at the president of the United States. How about this question . Where is egypt . Where is saudi arabia . Where is jordan and where are the countries whose very existence american fire power against isis is dependent . Thats what i want republicans asking. Thats what i want these new democratic war hawks asking. If the United States is going to go after isis and destroy them, and we are, lets not go it alone again, and lets not, once again, spend american blood and american treasure protecting other tyrants power. Lets go right now to chris jansing who is traveling with with the president in wales. Chris, the administration not ambiguous yesterday. It was seek, search, and send to the gates of hell. Tell us what is going on there. Yeah, youre going to pay that was the message, right . And what a difference a couple of years makes from the last nato summit. This is high stakes. I just was listening to the secretary of state general of nate tow saying we are not a cold war relic, we are involved. I saw the president going into a multilateral meeting with leaders. Ukraine is not a member of nato but another high on the list of what to do here which is what to do about Vladimir Putin. But look. Theres a lot that hasnt been done with nato. They have been sort of deescalating for a while. A couple of years ago the talk was how do we get out of afghanistan and spending less money. There are 28member countries and four of them contribute what they are supposed to contribute which is 2 of the gdp so they are pushing for that and pushing for a Rapid Response force, about 4,000 troops they would have that would respond to a crisis within 48 hours. But i think to your point, joe, its important to say that isis and what to do about the rise of extremism wasnt even officially on the agenda. We now know there are going to be a number of sides, there was a little bit of time already morning for president obama and David Cameron to meet. The folks who were close enough said there was a lot of whispering going on. We dont know what was said. But there is a rising sense of insecurity here as there is around the world and particularly when it relates to isis. You see the foreign fighters and the possibility of them coming back to the homeland whether here in the uk or europe or in the United States. Has put this on the agenda in a way it wasnt before, joe and mika. Thank you so much, chris. Greatly appreciate it. This is getting to widespread that you have turkey and qatar have not been the most helpful in this fight. Turkey had what is called the jihadist highway, you know, any foreign fighters that wanted to join isis, you know, directly through turkey. They are now even joining in and trying to shut down the jihadist highway. Yes. Its like a bell was rung last over the last day or two and the world is suddenly, pow. Its megahow the rhetoric has coalesced around this. How long will that last . They are talking tough right now. When president obama initially started talking tough and isis is a cancer and all of these things, my initial question is he just trying to look as if he is doing more than he really is . Now it feels as if there is more of a momentum but the question this is going to be a very long that will involve building a coalition and holding the coalition for years. What are you going to do . There is more news on this. New details with Steven Sotlof sotlof, the second journalist to be beheaded. Israeli reports say he faked being sick so he could fast on yom kippur. A debate on islam and gave a tribute to sotloff. Steve had a gentle soul that this world will be without, but his spirit will endure in our hearts. Today, we grieve. This week, we mourn. But we will emerge from this ordeal. Our village is strong. We will not allow our enemies to hold us hostage with the sole weapons they possess, fear. The mother of james foley is speaking out, offering condolences to Steven Sotloffs family. Diane foley says she hopes their murders can somehow lead to positive changes in the world. We just want to extend our deepest sympathy and hugs to the sotloff family, all of his dear friends and colleagues. Steven was another talented, courageous Young American out there trying to share all of their suffering of the people in the middle east with us. I would hope that their deaths might not be in vain, that they might awaken the world that we must act as a unified world for peace and for goodness and just work together. It was so wonderful having an opportunity to talk a beautiful family. To her and mr. Foley. A wonderful and extraordinary family. Wonderful gesture to come out of her mourning, which has to be so extraordinarily intense to try to do that. They are in a unlikely and terrible position and she is doing her best. She really is. Harold ford, lets turn to what happened last night. Kay hagan was in the debate. Al franken in minnesota, if he is responding to constituents calls for military action, this is why its spread. We had two republican, one pollster and one consultant, steve schmidt, who spends a good bit of his time, talking about like me what the Republican Party is not getting right and why they are going to lose elections. He said yesterday its a wave election for republicans and internal polls have to be showing a big, big break. What does the president have to do . Hes god to keep his head here and not just shoot missiles into the desert. What does he do . Do you support this path of slow and steady and waiting for arab countries to ask america to get involved, or does he have to act faster . I think any president , including this one, has to act to protect the interests of the country, and i give the president some credit in being sober and smart and trying to be reasonable about this. I mean, you think about the doctrine where you identify the threat and the forces behind it to achieve your goal and youre able to exit. I think the president is trying to think about it in those ways. Colin powell, by the way, lets forget about the slip on friday where he said we didnt have a strategy. If colin powell were president of the United States or secretary of defense or what we wouldnt be rushing into war, because youre exactly right. Powell identifies a threat but before he sends the first troop in, he says we need to know what the exit date is. He got pushed in 2003. And never get pushed gep. I think president obama is trying to do that. His language has been awkward and at times maybe dangerous. You look at al franken and kay hag hagan, they probably represent different spectrums of the party. I think for them to be the way they are i think its the president talking about what it is. I dont think the polling shows yet that these issues rank foremost on peoples mind in all of these battleground states. I imagine if i al franken and kay hagan up for reelection you want to be in front of this as you possible could. The other major foreign conflict is russia and we will focus on that in our must reads. New developments there. In a few hours, the justice department will announce a sweeping civil rights investigation into the citys police department. They will look at the conduct of the ferguson p. D. Over several years. In the last five years the Justice Department has opened 20 investigations of Police Departments across the country. True to her message. Senator Elizabeth Warren is openly criticizing former House Majority leader eric cantors decision to take a multimillion dollar job on wall street. Cantor will be the vice chairman and managing director of an investment bank, earning more than 3 million over two years. In an interview with yahoo s katie couric, warren says it sends a bad message. You know, how wrong can this be . That basically what is happening here is that people work in washington and, man, they hit that revolving door with a speed that would blind you and head straight out into the industry, not because they bring great expertise and insight, but because they are selling excess back to their former colleagues who are still writing policy, who are still making laws. Makes sense, right . The democratic senator was a little less blunt, however, when she was asked about Hillary Clintons relationship with the financial industry. Im curious if you think that Hillary Clinton is too cozy with wall street . I know youve disagreed with her in the past on issues like bankruptcy, legislation. You know, i worry a lot about the relationship between all of our regulators, government, and wall street. What about Hillary Clinton in particular . I worry across the board and here is part of why. We have got a washington now that works for anyone who can hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers, and it doesnt work for regular families. Families dont have armies of lobbyists, they dont have armies of lawyers. And that is why i think its so critical now that we speak up on these core issues. So very interesting, joe. I want your take. When its a republican, its bad, it sends a bad message. When its a democrats, she is worried. Worried. Shes in a bad position. Listen, if youre going to be a straight shooter. She should say its not good. If youre going to be a straight shooter, you got to be a straight shooter. What is wrong with her saying, you know what . Its not good. Her relationship raiseses a lot of questions. She gets paid a lot of money by a lot of these banks and then tells them that what they did is okay. With the hillary team, like, close in on her . She went down to Goldman Sachs and told them everything you did was fine, which was great. Id do that because ive been trying to a job and begging for a job there for years now. Who did . Hillary. Elizabeth didnt. She didnt. Yes, she did. She went down and basically waived the wand of absolution toward them. You have to be a straight shooter for republicans and democrats alike. I think joe is right. If youre that critical. I agree. Mrs. Clinton represented new york state which is the home to the headquarters for the Financial Service industry. Okay. I understand. Her and Chuck Schumer the fact they stand up people in new york lost a lot of money in their pensions in the bust of 2008 and Elizabeth Warren supposed to be worried about them, should be worried about them. We have more politics to get to. Scott brown in New Hampshire and major news out of kansas and get to that in a bit. Threehour show. Major news out of kansas . Yes. What happened . What is the matter with kansas tell me its a tease. My father is not in kansas. He is here to talk to us. Doctors Zbigniew Brzezinski will join us and tony blinken and andrea mitch and Ayman Mohyeldin. How do get your kids in a Ivy League College of your choice . I can get them into alabama. Actually, 20 years ago i could but not now. The latest on the condition of comedienne joan rivers. A brush with death off the coast. We will be right back. Dont just dream of being the hero. Make it happen. I cant believe were missing the game for this. Were not ive got xlte. It doubles our 4g lte bandwidth in cities nationwide, so be that guy with verizon xlte. Now get 1gb of bonus data, and our best pricing ever on the more everything plan. Thomas . Look who is here. He is ready for the open today. Are you going to the open . I am. I think so. If i can stay awake. Ive never been you wanted there. Ive lived in new york city now for 73 years, and ive never been out to the u. S. Open. I thought it was 72 . No, 73. I was there when the guys were wearing skirts and, you know . Really . 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If i survived a shark attack i probably am not going in front of a bank of cameras but id go home. The attack came after hours Officials Say they heard of a shark sighting in the same area and it was near ducksbury, massachusetts. The shark was between 12 and 14 feet long. Thats big. This is exciting coming to us from the dallas morning news. Tesla motors. You got your drivers license no, i passed my precertification. Im there with every 15yearold in america. Are you kidding me . You dont have your drivers license and just got your precertification . I went to drivers ed in new york city and we watched dvds from 1994. They said if you had road rage, you put it in an audio tape. What do you do . Did you right around on a bicycle in baltimore when you were 18 . No. I got my license when i was a kid. Then when i moved to california, i let my license conspirexpire. When you call california saying i want a new license, they cant send it to you. Can you send it to new york . They said no. 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The more big macs you buy the better the mcdonalds can afford to pay them more. Did you hear our friend Nicolle Wallace is going to the view. Im so excited for her for so many reasons she deserved it and she is going to be great and she is going to add so much to the show it is such great news. Way to go abc. How smart . Off the mid terms of 2016. She is going to be fantastic we will have her on and talk all about it. She is coming on friday. Im responsible for the shoes she wore at the audition. Can you get me some shoes . Coming up, the cost of taking on isis. Is the obama Foreign Policy stretching the u. S. Too thin . The New York Times david sanger joins us with his behind the scenes reporting on that. First, todays must read opinion pages, including one from president obama and Prime Minister David Cameron. We will be right back with much more morning joe. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. 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Dont miss the fall kickoff sale at mattress discounters. Mattress discounters Mike Barnicle joins the table for the must read opinion pages. Vladimir putin has laid out a proposal to end the conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Thats so nice of him. Its perfect. Its great. The timing is so interesting. The New York Times reports the sevenpoint plan to deescalate months of bloody stalemate was apparently written out during a flight over siberia. He had on to dropped two reporters who had written something bad about him from 30,000 feet from the plane and went back to do the draft. He is multitasker. He can kick somebody out of the pl plane and kill them at the same time. As they consider a Rapid Response unit for Eastern Europe and another round of economic sanctions. Meanwhile, another sign of weakening russian influence in europe. France has decided not to send 1. 7 billion dollar amphibious warship manufactured for russia after coming under pressure from the United States. They say the behavior has under mined the security of the continent. Our first must read is about putins little document that he wrote up on his plane. Putinesque ceasefire wall street journal. Its no accident mr. Putin has floated this ceasefire plan before the nato summit in wales and before the eu discusses broader sanctions on russia on friday. Mr. Putin hopes to forestall sanctions and divide the west a strategy that has worked before. Ukraine will not mr. Putins last military destination. I mean, are they really going to fall for this at nato in terms of dealing with sanctions . Are we going to say, oh, thank you so much, youve written this lovely that is ridiculous. Gideon, i dont know what the options are for a lot of the eu countries. Require some action. I think the nato countries are actually probably redlined for putin. This wall street journal editorial talks about how putin uses kazakhstan is not really a country. I think my take is that putins mainly got what he wants now. He has Eastern Ukraine where the russian speaker majority is and where the countrys Industrial Base is. And with that, he basically has ukraine destabilized and weakened and that is all that matters to him. If he thinks, mika, like a politician, even a brudish politician. If he goes into kiev there will be a lot more pain for the russian people. I think he is where he is. Lets talk about an oped written by David Cameron who has been very forceful towards isis and also the president. Mike barnicle has that. They are writing the times of london today we will not be coward by barbaric killers whether regional aggression unchecked or prospect that foreign fighters have a threat in our country. Our nations have always believed that we are more prosperous and secure when the world is more pros purse and secure. So we have a real stake in making sure they grow up in a world where schoolgirls are not kidnapped and women are not raped in conflict and families arent slaughtered because of their faith and political beliefs. That is why we have des core al qaeda and supported the Afghan People and why we will not waiver in our determination to confront isil. It is interesting, joe, over the past couple of months how what has happened in the middle east with isil has altered really the dynamics of the political and economic dynamics of two countries and more, Great Britain and the United States specifically. It really has. But ill tell you Something Else its done. Im looking on the International Page of the New York Times. They talk about hamas, look at this. Walking around claiming victory in a completely destroyed area. Wow. This has also changed the calculation for groups like hamas, and they were feeling the noose tightened around their neck because of egypt and other arab countries withdrawing sport. The silence was deafing during the latest battle in the middle east war. Because of isis you actually have arab countries starting to strike out against radical islamists. This is bad news for isis and also bad news for hamas. I would agree. Thank you, harold ford. They are saying one thing in my ear. Ill let your dad answers if he thinks we should announce they wont be accepted in nato. Im curious to hear his reaction. One time he listens to alex in his ear he blows through it. I did but then i told them i couldnt take it. Here is the deal. We have him on the show. Kind of a big deal. But they did send me a tsitter saying im a big deal. Mike allen that has report. President obama vowed a commitment to protect Eastern Europe from russia but can the United States sustain their presence there and two other parts of the world . The New York Times david sanger is our guest and he talks about the threeheaded monster confronting president obama. That is coming up. We know were not the center of your life, but well do our best to help you connect to what is. Hello three grams daily of betaglucan. A soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. Thank you take and. Exhale. In. Aflac and a gentle wavelike motion. Aahhh ahhhhhh. Liberate your spine, ahhhahhhhhh aflac and reach, toes blossoming. Not that great at yoga. Yeah, but when i slipped a disk he paid my claim in just four days. Ahh four days . Yep. Find out how fast aflac can pay you, at aflac. Com. We will defend our nato allies and that means every ally. In this alliance, there are no old members or new members and no junior partners or senior partners. They are just allies. I believe our alliance should extend these defensive measures for as long as necessary. Because the defense of tallin and others are just as important as the defense of berlin and paris and london. Here with us now from washington is National Security correspondent for the New York Times david sanger. He writes in his piece this morning with his speech in estonie estonia on wednesday about the as a result nes vulnerable nations will last for as long as necessary to deter russia. President obama has now committed the country to three significant projection of american power. As david reports, it seems to cost a great deal of money. It did. David sanger, thank you so much for being with us. When i sasat on the armed servi committee we obsessed on being able to fight a twofront war. Did we have the power and manpoman d manpower to fight a twoman war. Its not only expensive but it would stretch our military beyond its current capabilities, wouldnt it . Its a big stretch, joe. And beyond that, its a stretch that nobody anticipated. Remember. The concept in the first term was that the president would use drones, cyber, special forces and use those to deter adventurous major powers and you wouldnt have to have a big sustained presence. Just think about the list that we put together in the lead that mika just read. It requires a lot of naval resources and no one doubts its long term because the chinese arent going away. The isil effort is going to have to be a sustained one, particularly if we are concerned about putting Ground Troops on. So youre going to need an air campaign that, you know, is going to run up to probably a quarter billion dollars a month at the current rate. Then if you need a sustained effort against Vladimir Putin who probably isnt going to leave office 2024, if then, that is a long commitment as well. There has been a lot of prrp leaders criticizing the president s socalled pivot to asia and it looks like he wont make that pivot any time soon with isil rise in the middle east. In many ways the pivot is hard to see right now, at least on the military side, because it requires the deployment of a new class of ships and a movement of resources that is going to take a while. But when you talk to the pentagon to the people who are doing it, its slowly under way. Now, isil could get in the way and putin could get in the way and people say we cant keep 60 of our forces, which is the target, in asia starting in about 2020 and, of course, youll have another president to make a decision on that closer to the date. But its headed in that direction. Frankly, joe, when you think about all of these threats, its chinas rise over time that is probably the one that will require the most sustained attention. Im just wondering, and when you look at isis and the cost at 225 million 2 billion a year basically when you look at those numbers, the pentagon usually underestimates these things, what choice do we have . Number one. How do they put a number on this . Theres so much we still dont know about how to take on isis. Thats right. Its very hard to put a number on it and in some ways the number is the least of it, mika. While 2 billion, 2. 5 billion a year if you stay at this level, isnt that much when you think in the last years of the full presence in afghanistan, we were going through 100 billion a year. So on that scale, its not that big but, remember, those are numbers, assuming we dont go after isis in syria and, of course, we all know that if youre actually serious about taking isis to the gates of hell, to use joe bidens line the other day, youre going to have to go to syria. David sanger, thank you so much. We greatly appreciate it. Thank you, david. The problem is the pentagon always underestimates how much a war is going to cost. Right now 2 billion a year doesnt sound right. If youre going into syria, if youre going to take isis to, quote, the gates of hell, that is going an expensive trip. The beauty store bandit. How one womans request for a free makeover went horribly wrong. Oh, my god. Thats a makeover . That is news you cant use. Up next the 50 ideas changing politics in america and the people behind them. Politico has a list and we will explain the reason hillary is not on it. How did that happen . We will be right back. Man i know the name of eight princesses. Im on expert on softball. And tea parties. Ill have more awkward conversations than im equipped for, because im raising two girls on my own. Ill worry about the economy more than a few times before theyre grown. But its for them, so ive found a way. Who matters most to you says the most about you. 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Brakes, tires, oil, everything. whistling republican scott brown is running for senate in New Hampshire as you know. This video from a town hall in hudson released by an Opposition Research group shows brown react to go a question about how he would create jobs as a u. S. Senator. Here is the thing. When folks say, you know, what are you going to do to create jobs, im not going to create a job. My job is to make sure that the government stays out of your way so you actually grow and expand and obama is a great example. The number one job right now is obamacare. A poll last knot month showed senator Jeanne Shaheen leading brown. That is getting closer. Who knows what its like the past week. We are seeing democrats scurrying to the right and taking a hawkish position. I suspect New Hampshire, like a lot of other states, are tightening up. Its a jump ball right now. Given scott browns propensity for malappropriateness, Jeanne Shaheen has lived in New Hampshire all her life and knows New Hampshire. Why is it a tie right now if that is the case . I think president obama is a big weight for a democrat to carry in New Hampshire. All right. A big weight. Lets go to politico. With us is the chief White House Correspondent for politico, mike allen. Politico is unveiling an annual list of key thinkers and doers who are reshaping politics in 2014. Congratulations, joe yeah. Im sure number one. And hillary is not in it, mike. Why . Maybe she is 51. Politico magazine decided this year, rather than doing a traditional list of washingtons powerful or rising stars, to do thinkers, people who, at a time when washington is locked up with gridlock and dysfunction, actually, are out promoting ideas. So that is why you find rand paul and ted cruz on this list. They are out actually, youve got rand paul as number one. Oh, my lord. Explain. Yeah. Well, we have seen on this show, he has been talking about issues like justice reform, changing prison sentences and making it easier for people who have been convicted of small drug offenses, to get work again. Whereas, Hillary Clinton has not been talking about idea. She had a whole book without ideas in it. Being very safe. Mika, you say good lord, but even mika is saying, wow, this guy is really interesting. Number two. Ambassador to main street you call her, janet yellin. Explain. So the fed chairman who at the time when the fed used to be remote is now can talk a language that people understand and also is bringing a more populace view in the past. You talk about capital, a rock star. Thomas piketty in a book very few have read. There have been some stats on that and how far into the book people comment, but hes someone would captured the debate about inequality. As you know, joe and mika, in 2016, whether youre on the right or whether youre on the left, this issue of income inequality is something every candidate will have to Say Something creative and convincing about. And let me just say it has a very compelling table of contents. As far as i got. No, i got a couple of chapters in. Its a compelling argument, not realistic how he is going to take care of the income divide but still very compelling. Number four, ted cruz. Ted cruz is someone who, not only wants to have his own think tank, is building a staff almost like he has a political organization, a government organization, and a think tank. He is someone who we saw this weekend in dallas at the americans for prosperity conference. Very ambitious and wants to run about right ideas. Look at number six. I love that. Pope francis, washingtons favorite populace. Elizabeth warren takes on a cozy relationship. Plus the u. S. Is gearing up for a prolonged war against isis. 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Or if power could go anywhere . Or if light could seek out the dark . What would happen if that happens . Anything. Everybody take a very close look. Okay. At this next picture. The face of crime. Brandy allen was arrested for shoplifting of 144 bucks of eye makeup at the ulta beauty store. Here is her mug shot from fayetteville police. An officer found her in the bathroom flushing the toilet several times and asked to see what was inside her purse she pulled out eye shadows and running her fingers over the makeup to make it app it was already used and smudging it on her eyes. You look above the right eye its sort of a david bowie look. I like it. Stephen colbert thinking president obama could learn something. His idol is Frank Underwood. Look at camerons suit during the speech. It says power, dignity, and strength and obamas suit says im a groomsman in an august wedding but even David Cameron pales in comparison from Frank Underwood from house of cards. If you have not stolen your exgirlfriends netflix password yesterday, hes a washington power player rising to prominence in lying, scheming, back stabbing, and murder but gets things done in washington. President francis underwood, i cant believe it. Please, stephen, i detest formalities. Just call me president Frank Underwood. Its a real honor to have you here, sir. Im a huge fan. How do you get so much done . Well, its like i say, stephen, a dog doesnt need to show its teeth as long as his growl deep enough, the food bowl is full, and he knows where all the bones are buried. Wow. I have no [ bleep ] idea what that means. But he sounds good saying it. He does. Its the top of the hour now. We were talking last hour, ayman, about how you look at what the Vice President is saying and following isis to the gates of hell and what kay hagan said last night in her debate. Al franken in minnesota, of all people, he is writing letters to the white house demanding action on isis. It looks like certainly, the president of the United States, the secretary of defense, they are not going to contain isis, they say they are going to destroy isis. I was asking the question, though. Kay hagan is fine but id like to hear from egypt. Al franken is great but i think the saudis have more of a stake in this than we do. So uae came out yesterday very forceful against isis and said they are going to be on board and the Iraqi Parliament, its pretty interesting too. Are we going to see egypt, saudi arabia, and other countries whose very existence would be threatened by the rise of isis . I think youll definitely see it on certainly levels. Certainly intelligence, perhaps trying to cut some of the finances flowing to them and curb the ideology. Will they join bush 41 coalition . If the u. S. Can put it together. The bottom line they are american militaries pretty much but they dont have the ability for operational ability. What would the impact be in egypt if the generals came out tomorrow like the uae and said we are behind the United States of america, destroy isis . I dont know if they would use those exact words we are behind the United States of america but if they say we are standing with the United States of america. Look at me, being an american. Shouldertoshoulder strong against isis. The International Community to destroy isis, i think it would have an important effect. They are dealing with elements of extremism in their own country. They are struggling with very similar ideology they consider to be just as extreme so they have an interest and stake in fighting isis. Im going to show you a picture from a place you recognize all too well. Its gaza. You have hamas claiming victory, despite the fact that so much was destroyed and they got pounded militarily. I said earlier, even hamas is hurt by the spread of isis. The middle east is changing and you have arab countries that are now striking out against what they consider to be radical elements. And this is one issue which as much as Prime Minister netanyahu say they are the same but that is definitely not bought in the arab world and nobody will accept that. I think a lot of people in the west would reject that as well. At the same time, as you mentioned there is this kind of perception that the rise of groups, any kind of group, particularly in societies where they may not know the difference between hamas and isis, their image and their reputation is going to be tarnished. People i think are generally fed up with what is going on in the middle east. This constant state of instability and just the violence and i think theres a lot of frustration generally, even inside the arab world. You got to keep that in mind. This is something that is new, mika. Its rising. We got the uae and egypt going after extremists in libya. That was crossing a threshold that hadnt been crossed yet. I think the arab world is changing dramatically. You have the president and Vice President and secretary of defense showing some unity here and their sharp tone against isis. Here is chuck hagel yesterday echoing the president. Here is joe biden. As a nation, we are united and when people harm americans, we dont retreat, we dont forget. We take care of those who are grieving and when that is finished, they should know we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice, because hell is where they will reside hell is where they will reside the president sounding a tad bit more measured but biden is biden and tapping into the fears that certainly what we have seen the past two weeks have been arising americans. Chuck hagel says the u. S. Knows of more than a hundred americans fighting with isis overseas. In an exclusive interview with nbc news one u. S. Citizen named don morgan revealed the details of his attempt to become a member of isis. Someone has to defend islam and someone has to defend innocent people. I purchased the ticket with the intent of entering syria, either joining up with medical and food aide convoys or directly with the Islamic State. A push came from being mistreated by people around me who didnt share the views i had. Reporter he decided to join last june and began to make his way from beirut to syria, but he was stopped on the way by authorities in turkey and sent back. Morgan is currently in federal prison because he allegedly tried to sell a gun online, despite having a prior unrelated felony. Somebody has to defend islam. I dont think its him. I dont think its him either. That is a pretty shallow bench, harold ford, if he is a guy going to defend islam. That is how they get to people. Operationally, as we talk about destroying and degrading and tough language coming from the administration, what actually can be done . It seems that this threat is pretty disperse. How would an operational set of attacks what would it look like . Why that sound bite is so important because it gets to what i think is actually the bigger problem which is this ideology and the sentiment people think they need to come and defend islam and bring all kinds of narratives to this ideology that we have been struggling with for the past decade and even lrng. What the u. S. Can do militarily is stop people like this from traveling with the help of turkey. Once they congregate in the battlefield, carry out strikes on those positions, try to target facilities they are using to store am nirks and try to go after key decisionmakers within the organization. At the end of the day, youre going to still have people like that who want to go and fight because of an ideology and if they dont do something to stop that and make people feel they belong elsewhere and the psychological reasons why this guy wants to go, youre going to have these problems for a while. From the white house is tony blinken. Thank you for being with us. A lot going on and happening very quickly. Yesterday, certainly, the president of the United States, the secretary of defense, the Vice President of the United States all talking about destroying isis and following them to the gates of hell. What is the first step . If one is going to actually travel across the river sticks and go to the gates of hell, what is the next step . Is it getting allies to cross that river with us . Joe i was listening to you earlier and yesterday and i think youve got it exactly right. The president is being very deliberate about this. First, we got to look before we leap. We tried the opposite about a decade ago and that didnt help us very much in the middle east so we are being very deliberate about putting together a coalition of countries to deal with the isis problem. That coalition is critical. Could i ask you, tony, i brought up a couple of countries that have a lot at stake here. So glad uae came out yesterday forcefully and good to see what the Iraqi Parliament did. What about egypt and what about saudi arabia . Can we expect them to make the sort of statements that the uae made yet . The short answer is, i think, yes. What we are seeing is countries that dont often have a lot in common and sometimes couldnt cooperate are us starting to stand up because they see the isil threat is first and foremost the wolf at their door. We had a strong statement from the uae yesterday. Ive been talking to the saudis they are on. They are starting to put the coalition together and we have to be very deliberate about it. A lot of work to be done and its going to take time and i think we will do it. When you say that certain countries are beginning to stand up and they are on board. What is on board mean . And which countries are you hopeful or even convinced that you will have collective unity on this . A number of things we have to do to achieve the goal the president said which is in the first instance disrupting isil and ultimately defeating it. First deal with the war fighting capacity. It tends to mask troops. We have got to take a whack at that. We started to do that in iraq. Second, we have to get a support network. The terrorists financing. The propaganda. The recruits. All of that. The foreign fighters. Third, we have to deal with some of its local support and move them back to the other side. Alienate sunnis in iraq and, finally, enable local actors who can take and hold the territory with we may help them get with our air power and bringing all of that together and bringing countries together to do that is exactly what we are working on now. That is the comprehensive plan the president is enhancing. Did you get a sense of supporting the syrian and giving them to the poopopposition you spoke of . When Congress Gets back, next week, we will talk to them about that. A train and Quick Program involve countries in the region hosting the trainers to make sure that we can strengthen the opposition so that it can both deal with isil and deal with the assad regime. Tony, thank you. Thanks very much. We greatly appreciate it. I want to follow up on what tony said, harold, really quickly. He is right. The president , and i know a lot of people get angry about this, you know . The president said something he shouldnt have said on friday. He said it inartfully. The whole world exploded like we werent going to survive. Did they want to send the missiles on saturday, sunday, on labor dah . I brought this point up in realtime you seriously would have thought i was Walking Around with makeup on my eyes like that lady that leave her alone. That knocked off the cosmetics store in arkansas. What was he going to do some we talk about leading from behind. This isnt leading from behind. This is saying we are not going to do your bidding for you any more. If you want to join us in a true coalition of the willing, then we will do it. And it sounds like. Its what they are doing. Because we are being deliberate after not being so deliberate a decade ago, we are going to have egypt, we are going to have saudi arabia, we already have the uae. We already have iraq. Im sorry. Thats starting to sound a little bit like 1991. We all talked about why couldnt we have president s more like bush 41 . It sounds like that is the direction we are heading. The deputy National Security adviser right there, mikas father at a different time over the weekend, sounded clear, stronger, more passionate and forceful and, frankly, more understandable than the president sounded in his press conference. It was the brown suit. The president stand before the country and say we have no strategy you should just wait and no need to talk. I agree with you. What the president is doing, being deliberate i think is smart. At the same time, you know he was talking about syria. Again, nobody that has watched this seven for seven years think i carry president obamas water. You know what i like to call him . The commander in chief. At a time of crisis, that is just childs play. And as you know. I would agree. Because you grew up in a church. Ive seen your political commercials. When i was child, i behaved as a child. When i grew up, i put away childish things. Im serious. There is a true analogy. We can scream and yell over health care, this, that and the other but when we have a existential threat to the countries in the middle east its time to put aways child play and start working and looking at the longterm range and i think hes got it right. You made two of three eloquent powerful statements the last several days on this. Fountain president had that kind of confidence and clarity and consistency in his language it would have been a different take. Nobody said he has ever been a good speech maker. Oh, wait. Yes he has. Stop. In the words of george w. Bush, its hard, its hard. It looks a lot easier from this side of the camera, harold p. M. You know that. I know but what our effort would actually look like on the ground. Ayman and tony were clear that i think the American People have heard from the president over the last several days which i think is what we need here. A lot of people think we are going to deploy troops in a broad way. A different way to do this. Ayman, i thought, said it well. A couple of more headlines and then to the break. My dad is on the other side and he is nervous already. Raising the minimum wage on the Arkansas State ballot after a petition received more than twice the signatures it needed. What more do people need to know about what we need to do here . If passed it would raise the states minimum wage from 6. 25 and hour to 7. 50 an hour in 2016. Mark prior embraced the increase in february calling it the right thing to do and signing on to the petition. His opponent republican congressman tom cotton has yet to make an decision. This is an important issue. I said it after labor day and believe it now. This is a bigger issue as we move forward and puts republicans, like tom cotton and like myself when i was in congress, you know, a couple of decades ago, in a difficult position. Is it hard to take a position on this right now at this time . I dont think so. I dont think so. Its not. If you can get a deal out of it. Exactly. Mitt romney said on your show and he endorsed it. Get a deal out of it you cant win over the senate and control the senate if youre out of touch with American People on a lot of issues. In the Kentucky Senate race, a sliver of good news. A sliver. For mitch mcconnell. A new cnn orc poll has mcconnell up four points over Allison Lundergan grimes. That is within the margin of error. It actually says five, but its very close. I wouldnt count her out. I would not count her out at all. I think the National Press is giving her a little bit of a bum wrap. I think she is a formidable xae candidate. I think democrats are fired up down there. We shall see. The democrat candidate for u. S. Senate throws in the towel in kansas and how that may mean the party will hold on to their seat. One man thinks he has cracks the go ahead to get into the ivy league. Build a gym for that school. Okay. All right. First, dr. Zbigniew brzezinski with his Foreign Policy views on europe and the middle east. Youre watching morning joe. We will be right back. [ breathing deeply ] [ inhales deeply ] [ sighs ] [ inhales ] [ male announcer ] at cvs health, we took a deep breath. [ inhales, exhales ] [ male announcer ] and made the decision to quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. Now we invite smokers to quit, too, with our comprehensive program. We just want to help everyone, everywhere, breathe a little easier. Introducing cvs health. Because health is everything. Sailing away joining us from washington is former National Security adviser for president carter, dr. Zbigniew brzezinski who always plays fair in tennis. He never cheats and plays fair. Doctor, notable and quotables in wall street journal this morning. This is cool. Dr. Brzezinski writing Foreign Affairs in march and april of 1994. The crucial issue is future stability of ukraine and american policymakers must face the fact that ukraine is on the brink of disaster. You talk about a russian ethnic explosion in crimea. 20 years ago. 20 years ago. That, obviously, has happened. Now Vladimir Putin bragging that he can make kiev in two weeks. Where do we stand in this crisis . I think the west is now more united than ever before and the sanctions that are being planned are serious. I think, however, putin is trying to undermine that unity by proposing this sort of phony peace settlement of several points that he is planning to discuss with boris shinco. I think this is making them think they have accepted the plan. As far as i understand the ukrainians have agreed to talk to putin but not agree to accept his plan and that is an importance difference. On front of usa today can russia be stopped . Should the u. S. Provide arms to ukraine . That is the next step. In my view, absolutely. Not to provide them with arms gives putin the incentive to escalate the military collision stepbystep knowing that the opponent is vulnerable, and weak and there is no cost for him in doing so. So i think we should be open about it. We should say to putin, we are providing arms to the ukrainians because they dont have any. We are providing defensive arms mostly so that they are not going to attack you. But youll have enough arms to oppose what you have been doing which is peace meal the stabilization of ukraine and the gradual wrecking of its economy because that is happening. Dr. Brzezinski, Mike Barnicle is here and he has got a question. Doctor, has putins behavior somehow inadvertently done something within nato that is seemingly impossible to do for about a decade strengthen nato collective . Ly. I think its a good point. More and more people in russia even at the top are beginning to think he is slightly mad, that he is is not conducting an intelligent effective policy but weakening and isolating russia and if push comes to shove, its a fate that it will become the vessel of china. We will move on to isis in a moment. Putin scratched out this sevenpoint peace plan ceasefire with ukraine. How should this be received . I think it should be received as an opportunity for talking and i have no objection to that, and ukraine and the west can make counterproposals. But the plan itself is essentially designed to undermine natos unity and to drag the ukrainians into a relationship in which the government in kiev has to negotiate with thugs armed by putin with putin sitting on the sidelines and pretending he is not involved. Harold ford . Quickly, doctor, i thought your interview over the weekend i think on cnn was outstanding. Following up on one of the points you made. Do you believe inexplicitly in any negotiations or ceasefire plan if something is reached we should say ukraine will not be accepted into nato . Did i understand you correctly over the weekend making that point of view . That is correct. Unless push comes to shove and we have a military showdown there has to be some accommodation. I think its perfectly reasonable to have an accommodation in which ukraine becomes increasingly a part of the western and eventually of the European Union but not a direct member of nato, which from the Russian Point of view is a security issue. So i think here is some compromise is justified and i think the basis for a resolution. Ukraine is not going to be a member of the union, putins empire idea, but is not going to be also a member of nato. Nbc news Ayman Mohyeldin is with us. How do you think they are approaching is and we heard is there a sense its a little too late to be doing that now or is that our only hope . Well, if we focus specifically on syria, that is a problem in addition to isis. I think that the problem in syria is that the opposition to assad is weak angle the strongest of position happens to be isis. So i dont think we are really pointing in the right direction by continuing to wage some sort of a war against assad. Assad, after all, was acceptable to the israelis and he was acceptable to us. He actually treated the nonislamic people in syria better than most other arab governments, so i think we have made a mistake here, which we should be correcting. Our approach has to be there are several different battle fields, iraq, syria, potentially some others and we are not going to be engaged in all of them in onesided fashion. Dr. Zbigniew vertebbrzezinsk thank you, dad. Is this a best chance for the democrats to keep their majority in the senate . The shocking events in kansas for the race for the upper chamber. 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Now democrats in the state may rally around greg orman, an independent. According to a pp poll in a threeway race, pat roberts holds a sevenpoint lead but when taylor is taken out of the equation, the independent greg orman leads by ten points. Orman ran as a democrat in 2008 but hasnt made up his mind who he would caucus with if elected. If i get elected, there is a reasonable chance that Neither Party will have a majority in washington and if that is the case what ive said is im going to caucus with whichever party is willing to go to washington and start trying to solve problems as opposed to just pleasing the extremists and their own base. And i think both parties are actually guilty of that sort of behavior. Really, i think, in an attempt to make sure they win elections and not solve problems for the American People. Pat Roberts Campaign responded by blasting democrats, calling the move corrupt bargain. Joining us now from washington, msnbc Political Correspondent kasie hunt. Before we get to the claire factor which is the back story behind this move, there are big implications here. Potentially really big implications. Just because the map itself is so on a razors edge. Whether republicans take back the senate or not is likely going to hinge on one or two seats. So the fact that suddenly it could come down to kansas . Is not something that any of us started out this cycle expecting. It sort of reflects how far of an antiincumbent on the ground now. Sam brownback is also in trouble and orman has support from the modern republicans who have backed brownback. As far as the back story goes, a source telling me that senator claire mccaskill played a key role in getting chad taylor to drop out partially its in her neighborhood and she was paying attention and realized an opening here and they credit her being a aggressive political strategist and pushing this forward. Senator reeds office denied they had anything to do with getting taylor out of the race but its probably pretty clear that, you know, they wouldnt go ahead and do anything like this without leadership blessing. Well, claire getting involved, claire mccaskill, harold, is, to me to shows these implications are as big as she says them to be and could be the ultimate balance of the senate. What do you make about claire and others jumping in here in terms of shes from the mist and she understand that. I know. She has a greater appreciation for the political dynamics there. Who would think this would be happening in kansas. How do you tell someone to get out of the race, you could help our party . How does that happen behind closed doors . If you want the issues addressed its probably in your best interestses to move out. I dont know the back story what happened to this guy. Listen to go that candidate, if this is the way in a direction we have headed in the National Politic candidates saying im caucus with the party doing the most to help the country, i kind of like. Whatever went on behind the scenes, this might be a win win not only for kansas but the country. Kasie hunt is an official Political Correspondent for us. Congratulations. Thank you. Coming up, getting on College Admissions like a broker bets on the stock market . Why one man has made it his job to guarantee acceptance into ivy league schools. Morning joe will be right back. Fill their bowl with the meaty tastes theyre looking for, with friskies grillers. Tender meaty pieces and crunchy bites. In delicious chicken, beef, turkey, and garden veggie flavors. Friskies grillers. Woman everyone in the nicu all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. Everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. 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Used like yuvert of illinois. Peter waldman is here how he can get your kid into college guaranteed. Thats great guaranteed. Thats photographic. Thawhat kind of numbers a we talking about . I guess anybody can be bought. What number, peter . Well, lets see now. There was a ceo in hong kong who gave 700,000 to the entrepreneur whose name is steven mau who sow here in the Silicon Valley and that went through tutoring and class preparation and essay assistance. 700,000 . He didnt keep that amount of money. He did keep 400,000. Give us another example. Well, lets see. Mr. Mau is now working with another hong kong executives child. For 600,000 up front, for that, if this child gets into an ivy league school, 600 grand, if he gets into an ivy league school, mr. Mau will keep that. If he doesnt, there will be other amounts of money he can keep down to, i think, about 90 grand. Guaranteed 90 grand. Instead of taking your basically kaplan course youre paying somebody 600,000 to get your kid prep your kid and get them ready for college. Thats insane. Harold ford, around new york, i mean, when i first moved to new york, i was shocked. I have two little kids. Id sit around the table and it would be like, they would go, we love your show, if you ever neat theater tirkts, just let us know. Okay, great. I never go out and sit in an apartment and eat cold cereal alone. So i love transformer series. But they went around. Help me with that and that. Not that i didnt need any of that help. Then i said i have a 5yearold girl and i need to get her into kindergarten. They said we cant help with you that. They were dead serious, peter. Now the insanity of getting your kid ready for college in america, among elites, is outrageous. I guess this is just one of those depressing examples of it. I dont know what it was like in alabama in your day. 500 a semester. Now youre paying 30,000 for one of these elite schools. He also does tutoring and competes with kaplan and kudor and it will give you a guarantee. How . How can he guarantee this . What does he do . This is a math wise. He used to work at a hedge fund. He bets on these kids like a trader will bet on a commodities market. He says i figured out you have 5 , 8 chance of getting into that school. Ill base my fee on that and he takes a risk. Hes a trader is what he is. Wow. Mike, you see those acceptance rates. Stanford only 5 of students. They dont even let me on the campus in palo alto. Peter, is there any way we can bypass the middleman, steven mau, and go directly to these people in hong kong he is dealing with and can we tell them that for a hundred grand, i can get that kid into umassamhurst . In the end he was paid 400 grand to get his kid into syracuse which is a Wonderful School but not that hard to get into. Maybe some information will help them. 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For the most part, this is played out as a low tech game of you steal my tank, i steal yours. Translator neighbor russia should take a neutral position and someone would watches a fight between a husband and wife and a someone gives a club to the husband and a knife to the wife to spice it up. Russia is a provocativor and putin is a provocativor. Now we have those for and against ukraine. If they want to live in russia, they are welcome. Go [ bleep ] off and live there and dont tell us anything about our country. Translator the efficiency of the government is about 1. 5 and doesnt solve problems on time and cant handle any serious tasks. Therefore its the main volunteers that supply the army. Reporter filling this void is outfits like this one that decided to give the funds to these militiamilitias. A bunch of i. T. Guys. Translator the money was donated by kind housewives and sending sums to us. So our priorities are low cost, speed, and quality. Reporter volunteers assemble and sell jackets and belts and armor and all sorts of combat equipment, but its the remotecontrolled drone, the one kids aspiring to movie careers with their mom and pops cash and given the putinbacked separatists a series flak. Translator they helped us find enemy tanks and we then destroyed. Translator since childhood i was always fond of aviation. Our Commanding Officers took note of it. I was ordered to leave my combat unit for this unit of nerds. Im a computer programmer. As many other computer guys, i dont only work but i also spend a lot of time playing computer games. That includes flight simulators. This experience became very useful now because when youre operating a drone, it is, in fact, like playing a computer game. Reporter so throw the spraitists hasprai separatists putin watching their back, the nerd units are fast becoming a key game changer in the fight for ukraine so much so the separatists have allegedly put a price on this drone pilots head. Translator they spent a special group to capture us is a telling fact. I think is demonstrates how effective our effective our work is. Translator this is a patriotic impulse, a real one. All ukrainian rulers did everything to destroy the ukrainian army, and now it is trying to reappear like a Phoenix Rising from its ashes. Wow. We thank our partners for that perspective. What surprises you most about that report . I mean, for me, crowd sourcing of funds for, as they report, this unit of nerds, its like a real live video game of war come to life. Yeah, and it also shows you a lot about how the battlefields changing. Its a small unit. Not sure how big of an impact its having on the battlefield, but very interesting to say the least. But it does give you a sense of this merger between militaries or those fighting and crowd sourcing and just how social media in general is just changing the dynamics of everything, including even warfare. I think its absolutely fascinating. It makes it harder to drew the line between civilians and people fighting. They want to go after this unit. Can they go after the people financing it . Raises lots of questions. Coming up at the top of the hour, strong words from the Obama Administration describing how the u. S. Will take the fight to isis, but will military operations match the rhetoric . And then a french freezeout . Why the country is finally putting an end to one of its military deals with russia, or is it . Frances ambassador to the u. S. Will be our guest. Plus, tornado warnings have already been issued for the upper midwest, as a massive storm heads east. A full report is next. Morning joe will be right back. vo ours is a world of passengers. 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I cant wait to see rosie and nicole. Get yourself some nice shoes now. Thats great news. I have to lend her my shoes. Now lets turn to bill karins for a look at the forecast. Were looking at some severe storms expected today. Early morning tornados. The lightning has been incredible this morning. Starting in north dakota and then right through minnesota and now into areas of wisconsin. At one point we had about 10,000 lightning strikes as it was coming out of fargo and going just to the north of st. Cloud. Now heading towards duluth. We had tornado warnings. Report of a 90mileperhour wind gust that did some damage. But no tornados confirmed as of this point. Were also watching some pretty strong storms further to the south. These went through milwaukee overnight. Theyre threatening the chicago area and now heading right over peoria again. Im sure ohare will have some minor delays because of these. Heres how were looking as we go throughout the day today. Severe weather possible in yellow. Wind damage, large hail possible with the strongest storms, and its another very hot day in the east. Temperature at 90 in d. C. Well also be watching that heat heading into the northeast as we approach the weekend. But things change. About three more days of summer and then its going to feel like fall in the east as we go into sunday. So again, you know, very hot and stormy, but fall is on its way. Before you know it also its going to get dark earlier. Its already happening. I kind of like it. You like it getting dark. Are you a vampire . Im a vampire. But anything that helps bring on sleep. Help the pills help themselves. I can take less maybe. You never know. I doubt it. All right, weve got a lot ahead here as we look at the headlines straight ahead, so the next hour of morning joe starts right now. Those who have murdered james foley and Steven Sotloff in syria need to know the United States will hold them accountable, no matter how long it takes. While the white house is being characteristically calibrated and cautious over americas response, the Vice President today used very different language. We dont retreat. We dont forget. We will follow them to the gets of hell. If youre actually serious about taking isis to the gets of hell, youre going to have to go to syria. Whats the next step . Getting allies to cross that river with us . Were being very deliberate about putting together a coalition of countries to deal with the isis problem. The administration not ambiguous yesterday. It was seek, search, destroy, and send. Yeah, youre going to pay. That was the message, right . What a difference a couple of years makes from the last nato summit. Theres been a lot of sabre rattling in Eastern Europe lately. The u. S. Says its now sending troops inside ukraine. With its new Rapid Reaction force, a spearhead, they call it. The spear clearly pointed at Vladimir Putin and his Eastern European ambitions. President putin listed seven conditions for ceasefire. But the plan itself is essentially designed to undermine natos unit and so drag the ukrainians into a relationship in which the government in kiev has to negotiate with putin sitting on the sidelines and pretending that hes not involved. Today we are bound by our treaty alliance. An attack on one is an attack on all. If in such a moment you ever ask who will come to help the nato alliance, including the armed forces of the United States of america right here present now. So much going on, mika, over the last two hours. Weve had tony blanken come on talking about who may be coming onboard. Certainly here at home, the sounds of the drums of war have really begun in earnest in this country. Yesterday the Vice President said america would follow isis to the gates of hell to get justice. The secretary of defense says the u. S. Doesnt want to contain is isis, but rather they want to destroy isis. Democratic senators became war hawks. Internal polling showing americans want action. Kay hagan joined john mccain and Lindsey Grahams side in that democratic debate talking about action. Al franken sent a terse letter to the white house. Yes, that al franken from that state of minnesota, calling for military action, and they werent alone. But there were more important developments yesterday, maybe not driven by political polls, but the United Arab Emirates condemned a spread of the Islamic State. Thats important. Its also important they said theyll support america in efforts against isis. So did the Iraqi Parliament, who would have loved to criticize america if we had taken action earlier without getting their goahead first. And while its one thing to have kay hagan calling for a strong use of force. America actually asking questions first and shooting missiles later may actually lead to our country not having to go it alone again. And carry other countries water. So the question is, where is egypt . Tony blanken said theyre going to be supportive. Where is saudi arabia . I think theyre going to be supportive, too. Where is jordan . Certainly you would think jordan would be supportive. And where are the other countries whose very existence depends on american fire power and us sending our sons and daughters overseas and spending our treasure to cut out a cancer from the middle east that is really in their best interest to cut out. Weve got nbc news chief Foreign Affairs correspondent and the host of Andrea Mitchell reports, Andrea Mitchell. About an hour ago, tony came on the show. I said, its great about uae. Its great that weve got the Iraqi Parliament actually begging us to come over this time. Its a little better than what happened in 2003. But where is egypt . He says theyll be onboard. Where is saudi arabia . Maybe theyll be onboard. Where are the other countries . Could it be that were moving because we are being deliberate towards a scenario when bush 41 assembled an Extraordinary Group of countries, including syria, to fight against Saddam Hussein. If you recall back then, jim bakker spent months and months building that coalition of the willing, and it was extraordinary. You had syrian fighters going against Saddam Hussein, but it was a different situation then, and i think its going to be a much heavier lift because some of these very countries like saudi arabia feel that the president should have moved a year ago labor day when he didnt. But a country like saudi arabia has the most to lose with a group like isis spreading across the middle east. So will we see the saudis publicly come out and be supportive of this . You might because of two things that happened this week. A refinery hit inside saudi in their key eastern area, the oil area. And also the arrest of 88 isisrelated, they claimed, alleged terrorists. Now, saudi arrests are notoriously difficult to ascertain. The saudis did arrest terrorists on their soil and announce it. Last week, bobby was on the show and he said an important threshold had been crossed when you had the uae going into libya to pursue other islamist fighters. Its great that they did that. Do we expect more arab countries to follow their lead . I think the statement from yusef was very significant. That was a big signal. They are concerned and basically their opposition is to qatar, to their fellow emirates. Qatar has been anything but an ally with the United States, along with turkey. We saw the front page this morning of the wall street journal. I cant find it right now. That actually turkey is shutting down the jihadist highway. Youve got potshots from the right and the left. The president needs to do more, needs to stop saying things like we dont have a strategy, criticize, criticize, criticize. But what joes been talking about tony blanken echoed. While we have this painful wait for maybe some collective action, whats the value of collective action and what does that actually look like . The collective action, if it works as joe was just defining it, would include some arab leaders, some arab states, and not just humanitarian missions. We want to see their jets in the air and we want their intelligence i mean, weve got a lot of intelligence sharing, but we want we dont need them militarily, but just a signal of their jets in the air sends a powerful signal, right . Absolutely. And it helps inoculate the United States from retaliation, even though people like the pathologically crazy people in isis are going to go after us anyway. At first when i heard you expressing the same abouts that i had about the uae, refueled in egypt, hitting islamists in libya two weeks ago, whenever, how could we not have known, how could our intel have not picked up that . I was listening to you, watching you in the morning and thinking thats impossible. They swear to me that they did not know in advance. That was preposterous. Did you think it is preposterous on its face . Listen, i know this. The uae is such a good ally of the United States of america. They would not blind side us. They just wouldnt. So anyway, who knows. Mike, ive got a bridge to sell you in brooklyn, right . Giving the planes we have up in the air nearly all of the time, 24 hours a day in that part of the country, given our technological resources, of course we knew there was flight in the air. By the way, its a good thing. The big thing and andrea, i know you speak to these people on a regular basis. The biggest difference between 1991 and jim bakker and george h. W. Bush and today with john kerry and barack obama is that in 1991, there was no fear, no real fear in riyadh that Saddam Hussein was going to come for the throne. There is legitimate fear in riyadh. You know what the other big difference is . They knew that when jim bakker spoke, he was speaking for bush 41. There was no daylight between the secretary of state and the commander in chief. Talk about the daylight between the secretary of state and the commander in chief, where the secretary of state almost by necessity, some close to him say, is having to go out there on his own. Well, look at what happened last thursday, for the muchcriticized we have no strategy yet. That was as much a signal to men named hagel and kerry right. That im not ready yet, youre not ready yet. He framed it badly, but he was speaking internally as much as externally. Isnt that remarkable . Thats one way to look at it, too. I would probably just call them into my office. Thats no knock on kerry, hagel, etc. The relationship between the white house and the secretary of state, including a woman named Hillary Clinton. I have heard for a very long time theres a lot of space between john kerry and the president of the United States. I just couldnt imagine that to be the case until we did find out last week that that no strategy was actually designed more for people in the administration than out, mika. Quote of the day. I would have just called them into my office. Lets get to some other news now. Russian president Vladimir Putin has laid out a proposal to end the conflict in Eastern Ukraine. Isnt that great . Its going to be over. The New York Times reports the sevenpoint plan to deescalate months of bloody stalemate was apparently written out during a flight over siberia. In wales, president obama and european leaders will take his proposal under consideration as they consider a Rapid Response team for Eastern Europe and another round of economic sanctions. Meanwhile, another sign of weakening russian influence in europe, france has decided not to send a 1. 7 billion amphibious warship manufactured for russia after coming under pressure from the u. S. President hollandes office says russias behavior has undermined the security of the continent. Thats pretty significant news coming out of france. Yeah, looking at this headline in the ft today about france halting that warship. When the sanctions were first announced, they excluded arms sales specifically because france was refusing to cancel this deal. Now france has cancelled this deal. So thats why i think Vladimir Putin was writing on the back of an envelope over siberia. This signal. Sometimes sanctions dont work, sometimes they do work, but this is a big deal. Actually, were going to be talking to the ambassador coming up after the next break. In just a few hours, the Justice Department will announce a sweeping civil rights investigation into the citys police department. The investigation will look at the entire conduct of the ferguson pd over several years. The probe will be similar to past investigations over alleged profiling and excessive use of force. In the last five years, the Justice Department has opened 20 investigations of Police Departments across the country. And if youre going to investigate a police department, i would put fergusons near the top there. Well, weve got the investigation going on into Michael Browns death, the shooting death of michael brown, so now we have an extended and expanded investigation thats not just going to look into months, but the years of police culture of what some people say is baked in. We talked about it an awful lot. A Police Culture where youve got a minority population, overwhelming minority population, 53 Police Officers are white and you just wonder how many other cases led to this tragedy. Well wait and see exactly what the doj will find. But we see cases like this here in new york city. So this is not an urban problem as much as it is a suburban problem. Its systemic across the country. So let the chips fall where they may. To some politics now. True to her message, senator Elizabeth Warren is openly criticizing former House Majority leader eric cantors decision to take a multimilliondollar job on wall street. Cantor will be the vice chairman and managing director of an investment bank, earning more than 3 million over two years. In an interview with yahoos katie couric, warren says it sends a bad message. How wrong can this be, that basically whats happening here is that people work in washington, and man, they hit that revolving door with a speed that would blind you, and head straight out into the industry, not because they bring great expertise and insight, but because theyre selling access back in to their former colleagues who are still writing policy, who are still making laws. So how was she well, politico named her the next liberal line. Did she roar when katie asked her about hillary . Lets see how the lion roared. Not as blunt about hillary. Im curious if you think that Hillary Clinton is too cozy with wall street. I know youve disagreed with her in the past on issues like bankruptcy legislation. You know, i worry a lot about the relationship between all of our regulators, government, and wall street, and heres what i think what about Hillary Clinton in particular . I worry across the board. Heres part of why. Weve got a washington now that works for anyone who can hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers. And it doesnt work for regular families. Families dont have armies of lobbyists. They dont have armies of lawyers. And thats why i think its so critical now that we speak up on these core issues. So her worries seem far more specific, andrea, do they not, if its a republican shes talking about than a democrat . Yes. And i think shes being very careful not to take any shots at Hillary Clinton because the obvious fallback position for the party, if Hillary Clinton does not run, is Elizabeth Warren. Aside from the fact that it would explode in the press the next day, Elizabeth Warren takes a jab at Hillary Clinton. But what would be wrong . What is the risk of saying, you know what . Thats wrong, too. Its not good. I have great, Great Respect for Hillary Clinton, i support her in many ways, but ive got to tell you, these relationships are too cozy and its wrong. That would be consistent. It would also explode. Exactly. There you go. Great news out of nevada. Talking about the American Economy and trying to bring manufacturing back. Innovation creates new jobs and they create them there. It does. Tesla motors will announce its plan to build a giant battery factory in nevada following a fivestate competition, the socalled gigafactory will employ 6,500 people and produce the batteries that are expected to power the new generation of electric cars. Tesla is expected to spend 4 to 5 billion on the project. Mcdonalds, wendys, and other chain restaurants are expected to be targeted by demonstrators from the fight for 15 campaign. Organizers want the right to unionize and have a pay increase of up to 14 15 an hour. How much would that make my big mac cost . It shouldnt cost anything. Profits are just fine. Give these people a raise. I mean, this is a joke. Coming up on morning joe, how the u. S. Troop withdrawal had a Lasting Impact on our allies in south vietnam. 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First, tell us if you can in your own words, exactly what the message is that you want to send by cancelling or at least suspending this deal. Good morning. Our first goal is to end the russian interference in ukraine. After that, ceasefire. The sanctions are not an end to themselves. Theyre a tool. So we are increasing in an incremental way the pressure against russia. So now the russians have crossed a new red line by sending their forces, their tanks, so we have to react and france has decided to react on its own. So in terms of this warship now not going to the russians, is the deal suspended or is the contract ended . Those are two different things. Yeah, for the moment, what we are seeing is the conditions are not met for the delivery of the warships. We do hope that in the coming weeks, in the coming months, if there is a political settlement, a political negotiation, if there is the evidence that the russians have stopped their intervention in ukraine, i think we could have a look at the contract. Andrea mitchell . Mr. Ambassador, its Andrea Mitchell here in new york. Is the goal of france now to try to get putin to back down, and do you think that putins lastminute plan that he apparently wrote on a slip of paper is that plan specifically to sort of get nato to bow to russia until after the nato summit . Is that the timing of what putin is up to . I think the timing is obvious. Putin is trying, as you said, to undermine the unity of the alliance. Its a sheer maneuvering. But at the same time, its for president poroshenko of ukraine to decide whether the russian proposals are acceptable or not acceptable. It has to be a negotiation between ukraine and the separatists. We dont have to dictate the terms of the agreement. Mike. Mr. Ambassador, your president has been fairly critical of the lack of action in the middle east with regard to syria by the United States, indicating heres a quote, if two years ago we had acted to ensure a transition, we wouldnt have had an Islamic State. And i would like to underline the word we. We had acted. It almost always falls to the United States to act in these occasions. What would you think frances commitment would be Going Forward in action against isis if there is a partnership that comes together with the uae, with saudi arabia, france, england. You get it. Whats frances position there . First, we need such a partnership. What we have done, there was an emergency. We have ability cted to stop th advance of the jihadists. We the french, we have sent weaponry to the kurds. So in a sense, that was an emergency reaction. Now we have to build the coalition, for the countries which are interested. Which are on the front line. You said the saudis. We need it for the turks. A lot of foreign fighters are going for turkey and going to the islamic emirates. And in this context, i think the summit organized by president obama of the Security Council about the fighters, the foreign fighters, would be certainly i think a useful outcome. And we have also to work with the iraqis, of course. What is the level of concern internally, domestically within france, within paris, with regard to immigration policies, with regard to home grown terrorists. They have a problem in Great Britain. We potentially would have a problem here. Whats the level of concern domestically within your country . We have now, right now, we have identified something lake 360 french citizens fighting in syria and iraq. We have identified since the beginning of the Syrian Crisis around 1,000 french citizens who went for syria and now for iraq. Its obvious that these people are going to come back with some expertise. So i can say there is a high level of concern in my country, and i think all over europe. Thomas. Mr. Ambassador, when it comes to the situation with russia, Vladimir Putin has responded to the denial of the delivery of the amphibious warships, saying that france will suffer the biggest blowback financially because of the lack of delivery. How do you respond to that . You know, there are moments where you know, moments that you have to put your financial interests behind your strategic interests. You know, what the russians are doing, its such a fret to the world order. Such a fret to European Security right now that we had to react. And to say very bluntly and very simply right now, the conditions to deliver the warships are not met, its up to the russians actually to respond to our call. We have no interest to a longterm confrontation with russia. Its obvious. Russia is not the soviet union. Its not an existential threat to our way of life. But, russia has to respect the basic rules of the international life. Ambassador, thank you so much for being on the show this morning. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Tough talk. It really is. Thats what were looking for, among other places. Coming up, George Clooneys iphone was not hacked, but he is getting ready to tackle the phone hacking thing. Thats ahead. But first, what would have happened with vietnam if president john f. Kennedy had lived . Well talk about the last days in vietnam with director and producer rory kennedy. Morning joe will be right back. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. My mom works at ge. My mom works at ge. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. 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That was a scene from the new documentary last days in vietnam, and the director and producer of the film, Emmy Awardwinning documentary film maker rory kennedy joins the table. Wow. Congratulations. Weve seen it all over the place. You were getting great reviews. Thank you, mika. Im excited for the film to come out finally this friday. You know, one of the Iconic Images you were talking about was that scene, Andrea Mitchell. 1975. Saigon as the last helicopters left. And we pulled out, but we left all of these vietnamese behind, which is what rory deals with in the film, and how we pulled out, leaving our allies, our translators, our employees at the embassy. I think thats right. A lot of people are familiar with that Iconic Images of the helicopter on top of what they think is the embassy. In fact, its not the embe sass. Very few people know what took place the last 24 hours, or why it got so crazy, that we were ending up leaving from the top of the embassy in helicopters. At that point, we had about 6,000 americans in vietnam. The peace treaty had been signed two years prior. The u. S. Said, its too hectic, weve just got to get the americans out of the country. But our film shows how americans who were in the country, in vietnam said not so fast, we have our vietnamese allies, our family members, our colleagues. Weve worked with these people. Theyve helped fight this war with us. Were not going to leave them behind. And the Film Documents these extraordinary heroic acts that they took to get the vietnamese out of the country. Lets watch another clip from last days in vietnam. Putting his family on the plane. He had wanted to stay in vietnam to defend the country, and this full colonel had, like, eight kids and a wife. And he was in tears. The family the family were in tears. And i said to him, get on the plane. Just go. Go. It was a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible moral dilemma. Its a chilling story. You know, rory, just watching clips of the film, this is just my view. It might be andreas view, too. But this country really paid a psychic price for vietnam, culturally and politically that i think we still pay in part. This film brings back so much of that in terms of what we tried to do heroically, as you pointed out. What we couldnt do. And it occurred to me just watching that clip and the discussions earlier this morning about whats going on now in the middle east. 50 years ago, this past summer was the gulf of tonken resolution. This is the result of the gulf of tonken resolution, when you willy nilly without hesitation jump into something. We jumped into vietnam and this is how it ends. I think thats right. What i really sensed focusing on the last 24 hours of the war in vietnam is there were very few options available at that point. And so there we are leaving from the embassy in helicopters. And, you know, i think it sort of begs the question of what is our exit strategy when we enter these wars, and how are we going get out, what are our goals, what are our responsibilities to the people who are left behind. And i think as you all have been debating this morning, the pros and cons of taking on isis, i think we have to be asking these questions. So before we go, who do we hear from in this . I understand you talk to some incredible players if this, including henry kissinger, among others. The film is really firsthand accounts exclusively. Theres no narrator. No experts who are looking back. Its all people who are on the ground, or inside washington creating the policies that led to this moment in history. So its a range of people and characters who were in the embassy, who were on aircraft, who were on boats, who were trying to get people out. Right. Does anybody the answer of what would have happened if your uncle had lived . Or do you just come on at the end and said none of this would have happened. Id like to think that. The film, it really stays within the confines of really the last 24 hours, a little setup to that point, but it doesnt go back and tell the history of the war. Extraordinary reviews. What a compelling story. Thank you so much for being with us. And we cant wait to watch it. Thank you for having me. Last days of vietnam opens in select theaters tomorrow. Rory kennedy, thank you so much. Great to see you. Still ahead, a fascinating story of an american citizen looking to join isis, and as he put it, defend islam. I think we may have been in better shape if that guy had been let in. Richard engel has that report next. And then well take a trip to hollyweird, where rob ford takes the phrase running for office literally. Morning joe continues after a break. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters shopping online is as easy as it gets. And even piano tuners were just as simple . 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I purchased a ticket with the intent of entering to syria, either joining up with medical and food aid convoys or directly with Islamic State. Reporter morgan was raised catholic and educated at a military academy. My entire life growing up was surrounded by the idea that i would be 82nd airborne, i would be special forces, i would serve dutifully, duty honoring country. Reporter but now he speaks of his country as a potential enemy, and of isis, also called the Islamic State, as a savior. The responsibility of the Islamic State is to protect those who cant protect themselves. If its not assad dropping a barrel bomb, its going to be obama launching a drone strike. So, it matters not to me who the enemy is. Reporter morgan wasnt always like this. He served in the national guard. Worked as a deputy sheriff. Living in salisbury, North Carolina. This is the house where don morgan live, at the end of a quiet street in a middle class neighborhood. And the questions on the minds of his coworkers and neighbors is why would someone want to leave suburban North Carolina to join the vicious fight in syria . It is frightening that someone could go to that extreme. Reporter brian beaver has known morgan for 15 years. I would say he was a person that was on edge. It was like, whats it going to take to you know, this guys going to fly off the handle one day. Reporter after getting in trouble with the law, morgan, an amateur bodybuilder, converted to islam in 2008. He followed the wars in the middle east on the internet. He pledged allegiance to the isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi, and his Islamic State, the caliphate. Isis doesnt have the objective to be a terrorist organization. Reporter morgan tried to enter syria traveling through turkey, but was deported to lebanon. Running low on money, he decided to go back to the u. S. , aware of the risk. I think theres a strong possibility that theyll charge me with supporting terrorist organizations and participating in terrorist activities. Reporter when morgan returned to the United States last month, he was arrested, but not for terrorism. He was picked up for an unrelated gun charge. He is a convicted felon, and he is accused of trying to sell a firearm over the internet, and because of his previous felony, hes not allowed to even own a gun. He pleaded not guilty. He says that hes not a terrorist, and poses no threat to the United States. But not everyone we spoke to agrees. Okay, richard, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. You just wonder what the lure is. Not only for americans, but also quite a few british citizens and other westerners who are actually going over and trying to join up. And getting maybe a hold of people who are disturbed and angry. All right, lets go to business for the bell now. Cnbcs brian sullivan. Brian, take it away. Yeah, hard to follow up with that, guys. Great reporting as always by nbc and richard engel. Anyway, lets talk about gas prices. Maybe a little good news out there for consumers. Gas prices really a tax on everybody. The longer you drive, theyre aggressive. Gas prices really eat into your wallet. Aaa saying gas prices should continue to fall, so that is some good news. A little bit of relief for the american consumer, putting the money back into their wallets. Apple had a big drop yesterday. As we did on our show yesterday, guys, apple is so big, people dont realize what the value of apple is. Apple is so big you could take out the value of google and intel from apple and still have enough money left over to buy yahoo. Wow. What . 618 billion market value. Google is just under 400 billion. Intel is about 194. Yahoo is about 50. Good news about august car sales, right . Amazing news, guys. I know you guys have been big on the detroit story. Were going. I know youre going. 17 million cars annualized run rate sold as of the data. It could fall off. Theyre aggregating the data up from an annual basis. That would be the highest since 2006. Chrysler has seen their cars more than doubled. I drive a jeep. Go jeep. Jeep sales going up more than 100 . Some good news for the auto dealers, the auto sales people, and also hopefully for jobs, as some of these companies add more line workers, add more production in the United States. Wherever it might be. And joe, i want to end with a question. Ive got a question for you, buddy. Okay good. Totally off topic. You wont see me for a couple weeks. But ill say this. We miss you already. Saturday night, Virginia Tech at ohio state. Ohio state freshman quarterback, somehow theyre 11. 5point favorites over my beloved hokies. Do we cover . Andrea would know the answer to that. Andrea, do we cover . Of course we do. I dont know the answer to that. Brian, why are you leaving us . Well, im just going to be shifting you know, were expecting a baby, so im going to be trying to balance out a little bit of work, but making sure that i am as helpful as possible at home. Look at him. Aw that almost makes me like you. Im tearing up. If any of your viewers have had a kid over the age of 40, this is a blessed surprise, i urge you to send me diaper changing tips. My skills are weak. You have shea in the house, a 10yearold, right . An 11yearold. Oh yeah. We are enlisting her. Weve got a little doll, like this is what you do. Shea is going to expect to be compensated for her efforts. Ill just speak for her. A little candy action . No, i think her allowance is going to need to go up. Brian sullivan, thank you so much. Coming up next, is game of thrones too much for croatia to handle . You and your children were asking that question just last night. We have the answers straight ahead. Great. This is the last thing i need. seriously . 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Because there is no expertise without collaboration. Are we still doing this . Ill clean out my purse. And well just toss it to lewis . Look here in hollywood, we love when a hollywood story collides with a Current National news story. George clooney is set to take on the subject of phone hacking. Clooney will direct an adaptation of the nick davies book hack attack, the investigation into Rupert Murdochs media empire and phone hacking. This has all the elements of lying, corruption, blackmail at the highest levels of government by the biggest newspaper in london. And the fact that its true is the biggest part. Nick is a brave and stubborn reporter. We consider it an honor to put his book to film. Meanwhile, one of the stars of hbos girls appears to be ready to take on a more masculine look. Yesterday Allison Williams released the first photo of herself as peter pan, who she will play in the musical adaptation of peter pan live which airs on nbc in december. I think she looks pretty good. When she was cast in the role last month, she posted this picture on instagram telling fans shes been rehearsing for a really long time. Now lets go from the childlike and the whimsical to the adult and inappropriate. Lena headley is one of the few game of thrones characters that we havent seen undress in the show, looks like thats about to change. Production hit a roadblock when the church prohibited the filming of the naked scene in the city streets, but officials okd the season five walk of shame from the Famous Church of st. Nicolas, on the premise that lena doesnt set foot in the church. The show must go on. Finally, rob ford is quite literally running for reelection, guys. Here he is, the toronto mayor running from door to door this week, shaking hands, breaking a sweat, and hopefully not kissing too many babies. The internet, of course, jumped all over the images, and one intrepid youtube user produced this video, chariots of ford. That is a highlight reel for the ages. Oh, my gosh. That guy. One more reason to mourn the early passing of chris farley. What he could have done. Oh, right. With rob ford youre right. That would have been great material. Oh, my gosh. Coming up next, what if anything did we learn today . Musical chairs. Fun, right . Welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. Thats their game. The flights you want are blacked out. Or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles. Honestly, its time to switch to the venture card from capital one. With venture, use your miles on any airline, any flight, any time. No blackout dates. And with every purchase, youll earn unlimited double miles. From now on, no ones taking your seat away. Whats in your wallet . Helping you find a dentist youll want to go to for the rest of your life. Weve helped over 8 Million People find that dentist, and we can do the same for you. Call 1800dentist today. Dad hes our broker. He helps looks after all our money. Kid do you pay him . Dad of course. Kid how much . Dad i dont know exactly. Kid what if youre not happy . Does he have to pay you back . Dad nope. Kid why not . Dad it doesnt work that way. Kid why not . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at charles schwab yeah. Have you looked up the leaked celebrity nude photos . Any yeses . Theres one yes. Yes. Were they hot . Yes. Are you ashamed of yourself . No. Why should by . Have you looked up the leaked celebrity nude photos . Has nicolas looked it up . Were about half and half. Yes, i have. Are you ashamed of yourself . Not even a little. Are you really creepy . Moderately. Have you looked up the leaked celebrity nude photos . Were about half and half on this one. I do periodically. But the ones that just leaked. No, i have not. Now i have a task to do when i get home. Youd think with the xray vision welcome back to morning joe. Its time to talk about what we learned today. What i learned is a lot of tall guys. And she has heels on. Giants. Three forwards here. Congratulations to our good friend nicole wallace, who joined the table at the view. What a great move. Andy murray just couldnt do it against djokovic. Now im worried about federer. What did you learn today . I learned how hard it is to wake up three days in a row to do this show in the morning. Yeah. He comes in this morning like oh, im so excited. I was at the tennis match until 2 00 a. M. Its not when you wake up, its when you go to bed. Always a real pleasure. Im always ready any time. Weve got to take the show to london so we can wake up at 11 00. And watch a liverpool game. Yes. If its way too early, its morning joe. But stick around, because Peter Alexander has the daily rundown straight ahead. President obama trying to rally International Help as the u. S. Sends more resources to the region and the Vice President declares theyll be chased to the gates of hell. Meantime, Vladimir Putin puts out his plan to stop the fighting if ukraine, but will the west let russia dictate terms to end the crisis that russia itself helped to instigate . Plus, new developments in the fight to control the senate. Highlights and low blows from last nights carolina clash. As well as a surprise turn in kansas that has one roughed up republican crying foul. Good morning from washington. It is thursday, september 4th, 2014. This is the daily

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