0 >> no. >> all right. no, i don't, in fact. i'm very french that way. who do we have on set? >> with us on set, we have a senior political reporter for politico. and then we have the very metrosexual. >> look at that handsome guy. >> chairman, donny deutsche. >> what is going on there. >>. >> i'm trying to gussy up the set. >> oh, donny deutsche, look at that, it's his signature in polka dots. >> i get my signature so i don't lose things. when we have on the set the guy with us two days in a row, bad stuff on -- >> oh, god, then there's willie. >> well, you had quite a day yesterday, charlie rose, "daly" show the right path. i'm not sure that's what he was aing. a number of people seeing tear plans canceled n. virginia, more than 8,000 people have received discontinuation notices. in california, they said they will provide extensions for 200,000 customers. still, some estimates have more than a million people losing their health insurance plans in that state. >> maggie, this really is a seminal moment in this debate and, you know, bill clinton, the guy does understand politics better than any democrat alive right now i think. it's just hard to get around that promise. you talk about iraq, that's something 350e something that people request debate. are you talking about health care for millions and millions of people and a broken promise. >> just like you saw with iraq when you saw congressional democrats and republicans have to decide where they will go with this. will you see a lot of that with the coming months. i'm not convinced bill clinton was doing a calculus here. we think everything he does is driven by poetvation. sometimes he's freed up with politics. i do think he is very aware like people like mark prior in arkansas, he cares ability. this gave some cover to a lot of congressional red state democrats who were having problematic races. there is no question the white house, you heard jay carney say there is not much difference 2009 what the president said and the former president said. except the current president has not changed the law. so it's impossible to get around the language bill clinton used with what people are feeling. people are feeling portrayed. they do not feel they are passing a law. it's hard to get around. if you are a congressional democrat, what bill clinton did is great f. are you obama and you want to see the aca work not so good. >> so obama in a bind trying to keep the health care vow. they're working to try to physical out how to do that. so it's not like he's digging in and standing by the comments. he apologized for it, too. >> this is a very pleechl you go back through history, george h.w. bush, read my lips, no new taxes him you keep that pledge or break that pledge. same thing with george w. bush, wmds. the president will keep that pledge or not keep that pledge. this is not political. this is just reality. for millions and millions of american, it's going to have an impact. its number, willie, are lower than they have been. i can't believe it's not attached to this issue. >> it is almost certainly attached to this issue t. problem persists, so it's okay to apoll jaz, you got to fix the problem. we talk about a seminal moment or a tipping point. you have dick durbin, these are not pea party guys intent on taking down the president. they are supporters of president obama saying we got to do something about this provision this has gone too far. this not a broken website. we can explain that away. this is about the substance of the law that's hurting some percentage of americans. >> donny, let me ask you this, we always make fun of your cap. this is the stuff of the largest companies in the world. >> this is what you do. >> if you had a company, let's say you used to do jam. >> a true story. >> if they had a massive rollout the most important rollout in history and it was an utter failure, like this has been, the launch, just the launch. i'm not judging the substance of this back pedaling i'm giving you. and they couldn't get it fixed unless they shut production down, recalled the cars and went back and redesigned it from start to finish and it might delay the biggest launch in gm history for six months and you had a ceo who had his george bush for at least three-and-a-half years ago wouldn't you tell them, guy, shut production down, start over. i know ford is going to kick your ass. i know krois ler is goichryslerk you. i know your rivals will use this as a way to make you look weak. this is the strongest move you can make. >> it's a quagmire. once a movie has an open weekend and it fails, it's very hard to put that genie back in the bottle. we are asking people to modify their behavior, with i is different to begin with. now we have this debacle out of the gate, starting with 100,000 got to give back, unbreak your broken promise. right now, it's the lightning rod. the one thing i do. this has to change. at least there is a perception you are listening. that's the one thing i address and then do another piecemeal. >> do you agree with bill clinton, he's got to keep the promise or else you have broken the wing? >> let's not act like bill clinton came up with this idea t. white house has already had this. >> unfortunately, that's not the right thing to do. >> that almost coasts the purpose of the legislation, other companies go back. >> talk about that. we are all sitting around here talking about, gee, he needs to keep this promise. what is the impact if he keeps this promise? >> it's going to fundamentally change it. it will impact the pool in terms of the exchanges and the way they work. it will have an effect on it, which is why the white house said quietly they're not in too big a deal to hand him. could he recover if he said we're taking a six-month break? >> there are two separate issues. one is keep the plan you had promise. the other is that the website is completely unequipped to handle everything else. even if they are fixing this one side the few people who could sign up the few people who could make the law a success, can't make it a accident even though it would benefit from it. i don't think he can in terms of the actual plan. i think politically it would be the end and have a terrible impact on the mid-terms. >> president obama's approval ratings have touched a new low and yet another poll the majority of americans also saying he is simply not paying enough attention to what his administration is doing. american voters disapprove of the president 54 to 39. his lowest score ever in the quinnipiac polling. that's identical to how president barb u bush was doing in his second term. his major demographics have sunk 2009 women and independents and older americans. for the first time, the majority feels the president is not honest and trustworthy, he is upsidedown on everything from foreign policy to immigration still, the president is not in congress, the legislative approval rating. >> i'm sorry. look at that, he doesn't have enough hookers at this point. >> go to tj for second. we make fun of tj, but that 9%, i mean, you guys the graphics department, that is good. do you see how big that 9%. can we do that again? tj actually did something light here. 9%. >> what is the deal there, who is those people? >> you have been talking about chris christie this week, coincidentally, bill clinton's calculus as far as doing this, coming off of this, and coming off the last bush administration, does this now hurt hillary clinton because she is, i don't want to say business as usual. she's incredibly competent and help the chris christies in the world, people will want a hard right turn. obviously, this is not hillary clinton's mess, but it is more of the same part of the -- she's part of the establish. . does this in anyway staip shape or form or negative disparity? >> on hillary? >> yes. >> i think it hurts all democrats right now, i think it hurts in a terrible way. you look at the fact about that the president has bush level aparole rahas /* -- has post ka try fa levels. >> my point is people want new. >> when you ice that, when you say americans will take a hard right turn. no, i think what you are going to look at is i think you are going to see, first of all, increased skepticism on big government solutions. i think that will help republicans. i don't think necessarily americans will take a hard right turn and they will want to elect, let's say, michelle bachmann. i think what you will see is a cry for competence here because you are going -- this is our second president who has not seen up to the task of being president. approval ratings in the 30s. a disastrous second term. and i just want to take exception with one thing you say. it's your business. i understand it. i can tell you what i would do in a situation like this and, obviously, i'm not, i don't have the same concerns or responsibilities by any stretch within i was -- if congress as somebody who is president of the united states. but this is just a leadership issue, whether you are running a baptist church or a football team or a country. if something is this badly screwed up, you go in and you call everybody around around say, we need to stop the bleeding in the next two weeks, or we're shutting this down. my approval ratings are in the 30s, they're going to drop in the 20s. >> you never get back. >> you foe what, i almost swore. obama told me what i would tell a staff member, that's bs. you foe what, this is the bleeding. we are bleeding out right now politically. if are you the president, you are going to say, we are not going to be able pass immigration reform. we are not going to be able to do anything here. >> what are you saying, you are seeing the white house doing exactly that. they've got an actual deadline. that's very soon. obviously, if they can't think that deadline. >> mika, i'm not talking about the website t. website now is so enconsequence ishl. >> -- inconsequential. >> you have to clear out everything else. you know, he's got to zone out. you know the republican, he's got to get rid of all of the noise. forget the ground noise. look straight at the signal. listen for the signal. the signal is this, are you going to be seen as a leader that is seen as keeping his promise or breaking his promise? if you choose to keep your promise, then you live to fight another day. >> i understand, it's devastating for aca, but this is going to require him to call everybody down and say, we got to rety this from the startup. guess what, that may require us to bring people in here that we loathe and loathe us and sit down and physical out how do we move this health care plan forward? i don't think there is any other alternative or we will be here six months from now talking about a guy with approval ratings in the 20s. >> i think he's right. i think we are going to be sitting here talking about a guy. if he does that, he is essentially saying that other priorities will take precedence, like immigration reform. a bunch of other things he wants to get them through. he won't be able to get them through because republicans will think they can stop it at any point. >> you will see republicans will see this as a seen of weakness? >> i do. i do. i think the democrats will not stand with him on this. they will feel betrayed. you are seeing them offer fixes already, almost any will not get through the house, why would republicans take that issue away, let republicans off the hook. >> the thing is the president can't lay low the website problem isn't going anywhere. there is a new report saying it won't be ready for a long time this cancellation issue isn't going anywhere, either. more and more people have their policies issued. you can't lay low and hope this passes. coming up on "morning joe" chris matthews will be here and larry summers and conduct todd and mike tyson, boxing champ. >> i want to see tyson go at it. >> here's fill kearns. >> good morning, i will give everyone an update on the devastation in the phillipines from tiemp hai tiempb tie find haiyan. they have lowered that to 2,500. now the fear is keeping everyone alive that survived the storms. they need fresh water. they need food and in a hurry. when you see these before and after pictures we're showing you right now, you can get the sense of what's going on. an estimated as many as 70,000 people's homes have been destroyed. you can see everything near the coast literally wiped off the map. a lot of people managed to revive. now they need water and food in a hurry. i know a lot of our military troops are on the way. a, the forecast, it's cold as advertised. for the surprise there, temperatures are much colder this morning, temperatures in the teens in the great lakes. as far as the wind chill, it will be in the 20s. the washington, d.c. and everyone else, you are waking up to almost like a winter-like morning. at least we will have some sun. you are watching "morning joe. 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