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Allin 2020 town hall. Im Elizabeth Warren, and im running for president of the United States and ive got a plan for you. Good evening. Im chris hayes. Thank you all for being here with me. The address is 2020 East Washington boulevard. Its a former brewery and bottling plant back all the way to 1908. Its our venue tonight and for a very special town hall event. Were in the heart of the industrial midwest in fort wayne, indiana, eye city thats seen rises and falls. It helped power donald trump to presidency. A lot of people talk about how the trump base is the trump base and no one is going to defect from donald trump ever, but when you go back to 2016 and look at the votes that caused three key states, look at the overperformance in indiana, ohio, and the swing states he narrowly eked out, the question is are some voters up for play. What would it look like if they were willing to listen or vote for another candidate. Its the reason, i think, that e liz weather warren wants to coopt some of the rhetoric of donald trump. Donald trump take to places like fort wayne and said im going to be your protector and fighter to keep jobs here. Just in the last day, Elizabeth Warren has unvailed another new plan. This one geared toward economic patriotism, in an attempt to recast trumpian appeals to Material Interests in places that have seen manufacturing go away and economic stagnation set in. With that, i would like to introduce tonights guest, senator Elizabeth Warren. [ applause ] hi hello how are you, senator. Its good to see you. Have a seat. [ applause ] its good to see you. Its good to see you. Well, the folks in this room are obviously very excited to see you. Im very excited to see all of them. Heres a question i got from a bunch of people. We went back and forth with people. We said where would you like to do a town hall and you guys said fort wayne, indiana. Why . Why are we in fort wayne, indiana . Were in fort wayne, indiana because people in indiana understand jobs. They understand how you build an economy that doesnt just work for a thin slice at the top, but an economy that, wos for everyone. But people in fort wayne, indiana also understand that leaving it to a handful of giant multinational corporations to build our economy just isnt working. Those big corporations, they dont have loulty to america. They dont have loyalty to american workers. They have loyalty to exactly one thing, and that is their own profits. And what weve got to do is weve got to have a government that doesnt say hey, whatever it is that the giant multinational corporations want, let us help you. Weve got to have a government that says we need this economy. We need this country to work for working people. And thats what were going to do. Theres an interesting sort of message and messenger question here, right . So, i think that thats a very thats a message that i think has real appeal in places like this across the industrial midwest. I think there are people that see you and say e liz weather warn is a harvard law professor. Shes a liberal from massachusetts. And even if i like her, are people going to listen to that . Are you the messenger who can talk to the folks that are experiencing that in places like fort wayne and beyond . So, look, this is the 20th state ive come to to do a town hall. 20 states plus puerto rico. Ive done 90 plus town halls now. And its about being out and talking to people. You know, keep in mind i was born and raised in oklahoma. I have three much older brothers. I was that late in life bay si always referred to as the surprise. All three of my brothers went off and joined the military. My oldest brother was career military. He spent about 5 1 2 years in combat in vietnam. We were lucky to get him back home. My Second Brother was stationed overseas. My third was a combat medic. I had a different dream. My dream was to become a public schoolteacher. Can we hear it from americas public schoolteachers . [ applause ] its all i ever wanted was to be a public schoolteacher. My the time i graduated from high school, my family didnt have money for a college application, much less to send me off to four years of school. And like a whole lot of folks in america, i dont have a real Straight Line story. You know, mine starts with i got a scholarship to college. Yea and then at 19, i fell in love. I did not know this part somehow i read a lot. I didnt know this. Youre 19 years old. From oklahoma. Got three brothers who join the service. Got a National Debating scholarship. Georgia washington very expensive school. You go there and then youre out after a year. I fell in love and got married to the first husband. Never good when you have to number them. But and then after i got married, i thought thats it for me. I got a fulltime job, minimum wage answering phones. And i thought, okay, its a good job. Its a life i chose. But it wasnt the dream to teach school. So, here it was for me. It happened. I found a commuter college. Were living in houston by then or outside houston. 45 minutes away, costs 50 a semester. That was my chance, a fouryear diploma. I hung on for dear life, and i became a special needs teacher. I have lived my dream. Yep. [ applause ] huge part of your story personally when you talk about your trajectory which is really remarkable one is making a bunch of decisions bufted against different forces. Can you find child care. One of those is whether you can control your reproductive freedom for women making decisions about going to school and things like that. There was an interesting thing that happened today that former Vice President joe biden came out and said he would not support repealing the hyde amendment. That is a provision of law that bars the federal government from funding Abortion Services from medicare, medicaid, and others. You disagree with that decision. Yes, i do. Is joe biden wrong . Yes. Why is he wrong . [ applause ] heres how i look at this. Ive lived in an america where abortions were illegal. Yeah. And understand this, women still got abortions. Now, some got lucky on what happened, and some got really unlucky on what happened. But the bottom line is they were there. And under the hyde amendment, under every one of these efforts to try to chip away or to push back or to get rid of roe vs. Wade, understand this. Women of means will still have access to abortions. Who wont will be poor women, will be working women, will be wum who cant afford to take off three days from work, will be very young women, will be women who have been raped, will be women who have been molested by someone in their own family. We do not pass laws that take away that freedom from the women who are most vulnerable. [ applause ] i should note in the face of the hyde amendment, this is not the sort of youre talking about the laws in georgia and alabama. This is in the law for a while. Its been the law for a while, and its been wrong for a long time. Because it really is its just discrimination. What do you say to someone that says i agree with you on substance, but if you look at the polling, americans have cross pressured muddled views on abortion. Theres strong support for keeping roe v. Wade. Three out of four people want to keep that. But if you say government funding abortion, the poll flips the other way. What do you say to someone to say this is the smart political move. This is not about politics. What this is about is about health care, about reproductive freedom, about economic freedom, and about equal opportunity for all women. Thats what this is really about. [ applause ] so, then the final question i guess is are there things it would be amazing to live in a world in which the right policy was always the best politics, right . Yeah. But its not the world we live in, right . I guess my question is are there things that substantively you think its the right thing to do but the public doesnt like it. Or that may be a good policy but its not going to work in pennsylvania. The way i see this, this is what leadership is about. You work through what you believe is right. And you get out there and if most of america isnt with you, then you talk about it and you make the arguments and and you listen. Yep. Because maybe you dont have it right. But thats the whole point. You start with what you believe is right and then you get out there and fight for it. Let me poll the room for a second. By applauseometer were improvising im going to ask if your top issue is health care. Applause for health care as top issue. [ applause ] how about jobs and the economy . [ applause ] thats interesting. Thats interesting. Climate. [ applause ] and what about a lot of people say this in polling, your number one issue is just beating donald trump . [ applause ] were going to talk to a few folks who are here from indiana including a few that voted for donald trump and see what questions they have for you. Dont go anywhere. Well be right back with senator e l Elizabeth Warren. When cravings come on strong, now you can be stronger. With new nicorette coated ice mint. Layered with flavor. Its the first and only coated nicotine lozenge. For an unexpectedly amazing taste. That outlasts your craving. New nicorette ice mint. Craving relief never tasted so good. Or trips to mars. 4. 95. Delivery drones or the latest phones. 4. 95. No matter what you trade, at fidelity its just 4. 95 per online u. S. Equity trade. No matter what you trade, at fidelity for people 50 and older colat average risk. 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You may remember shortly after he won in 2016 but before he was sworn in, donald trump famously came to indiana to the carrier heating and air conditioning factory to make a big show about he personally having saved over 1,100 jobs from going to mexico. Thanks to the initiative and the leadership of president elect donald trump, a carrier has decided to stay and grow right here in america. Companies are not going to leave the United States anymore without consequences. The deal was largely smoke and mirrors and carrier would go on to have round after round of lay offs. Hundreds of jobs did go to mexico. Lead off carrier workers who voted for trump like Renee Elliott were left to fend for themselves. I felt like he was going to protect our jobs. We all voted for him, and then boom. I felt betrayed. And joining us here tonight we have Renee Elliott who you saw there. She was also in the room when the man she voted for came to carrier to take credit for saving her job which was a loss. We have frank staples out on medical leave. He was a worker at carrier for 14 years and he voted for Bernie Sanders in the election. We have Susan Cropper laid off from her job after 31 years on the job. She voted for donald trump in 2016. And daryl boyd, a single mother who works in a restaurant. Donald trump came to places like here and said im not going to let the jobs leave. I im not going to let the jobs leave. How do you feel about the guy now . I feel duped. I dont have faith in political candidates anymore. They make promises. They make them and they break them. How about you, susan . How do you feel . About like renee. You know, i just feel like ive been betrayed, let down. I thought trump was going to really secure american jobs, and thats just not whats happening out there at all. The jobs that were saved in the indy plant were never going to leave to begin with. So, you feel like it was a con . Absolutely. Senator, there are this was one of the key parts of the appeal, i think, in certain parts of the industrial midwest, particularly the white voters in the industrial midwest which was i will save your jobs. What do you say to folks like renee or susan and there are a lot more out there to say listen, you should listen to what i have to tell you. Okay. So, the thing is you cant just wave your arms. You know that. Its youve really got to have a plan. I do have a plan on this. So, heres how it starts. Im looking to make about 1. 2 million new jobs, new jobs that are good jobs, that are jobs in manufacturing that are going to be good union jobs, the kind of jobs on which people can build a future. Heres the idea behind it. Right now weve got a Climate Crisis in this country and in this world. It threatens us all. Worldwide, theres about a 23 trillion market for fighting back against Climate Change. And thats going to mean a lot of research, a lot of innovation, and a lot of manufacturing to push back against that. My plan is to make america the leader in that fight. We doubled down, tripled down, go tenfold on the research from where its been before, and we say to anybody who wants to use that research, who wants to innovate around it, good for you. You can do it. But you have to produce the products right here in the United States of america. You have to build those jobs here. If american taxpayers are the ones who are going to foot the bill for the research, then by golly, its going to produce Good American jobs right here. So, thats one part. One more part is a commitment to spend about a 1. 5 trillion in making our federal government go green. Its buy the products and here again its going to be all by american. Were going to change our fleet of cars. Were going to bring in new products. Were going to change what happens with our buildings. And look what that does. That not only helps improve on the climate front, but it creates demand, demand to keep those factories open, demand to expand those factories and those jobs. And then theres one more part to it. And that is, look, even if we manage to go entirely Carbon Neutral by 2030, were only about 20 of the world on this. Theres another 80 . And thats where the worldwide demand for change is. So, huge market, 23 trillion market. Right now the chinese spend 100 times what we spend here in the United States marketing their manufactured products around the world. I say were going to spend that money in the United States to market American Products around the world. Thats how were going to produce these jobs. Yes, there is a Climate Crisis, but what are we going to do about the Opioid Crisis going on here. So many i mean, you know, its in the inner cities. And its the younger generation, the ones my kids age. I see everywhere. And its its so much so now that you cannot ignore it, you know what i mean . Its bad. So, i have a plan for this. Lets hear it. And its already out there. Its with elijah cummings, congressman from maryland. Weve got over 100 cosponsors right now between the house and the senate. Heres how this plan works. It starts with exactly what you said, and that is how big this problem is. You realize just something short of 200 people will die today from an overdose. Its like a plane crash and another one tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day. And heres the deal. The problem keeps getting bigger. And right now, the federal government just keeps nibbling behind it. We spend a little more. We spend a little more, but the problem gets bigger. If someone came to you who loves you and said i know ive got a problem, they have a less than 1 in 6 chance of getting the medical help that they need. Why . Not because we dont know what to do but because right now we wont make the investment to help them. Not enough beds, not enough doctors, not enough rehab centers. So, my plan with congressman cummings is over the next ten years were going to put 100 billion ive already got this paid for 100 billion in to hit this Opioid Crisis headon and bring it to its knees. Weve got to save the people we love. [ applause ] i want to circle back around to the feasibility of these plans. Sure. I think thats a question. But dora, you had a question first. Yes, im a single mother. My main concern is my child. The children are the future. What is your plan for that and also for people that have to pick whether youre going to work a fulltime job to pay for child care or if youre going to work a fulltime job and hope you can rely on somebody . In my perspective, everybody doesnt have an aunt like yours. What is your plan for that. As you know, this ones really personal for me. When i got my first fulltime teaching job, i had two little ones under feet. And i love that job. I was so excited by that job. But there i was, you know, still doing dinner at 8 00 at night, giving baths at 9 00, get them into bed and got three loads of laundry and then class preps. It was hard. But i could do hard. The part i couldnt was when the babysitter quit and then when the Daycare Center turned out to be a mess and then when the second Daycare Center said they were moving and then one more and one more and one more. And then there was the night. Kids were in bed. My aunt b called and said how you doing honey . Shes my widowed aunt b from oklahoma. I said fine, and then i burst into tears. I said im going to quit. Its like it just fell out of my mouth. You know what this is like, renee. And aunt b listened while i cried and i cried. Finally i blew my nose and got myself back together. And she said the words that changed my life. She said i cant get there tomorrow, but ill come on thursday. She arrived with seven suitcases and a dog named buddy and stayed 16 years and thats how i got to have a job. But its just like you said. If everybody in the world had an aunt b, we would all be fine, but they dont. So, this is a big priority for me. What ive got is a twocent wealth tax on the biggest fortunes in this country, the top 1 10 of 1 . Anybody whos already made 50 million, the 50000000th and 1st dollar, they get a 2 cent tax. They pitch in 2 cents on every dollar after that, thatll give us enough money to do universal child care for every baby age 05, universal prek for every three and 4yearold and raise the wages of every Child Care Worker and preschoolteacher to the levels they deserve. Thats how it is. Look, high quality child care early on, high quality prek, thats all the difference in the world. And that should not be reserved for the children of the welltodo. Thats an investment we should make in every child in this country. So, senator, thats three plans already rolled out. Ive still got more. I know you do, i know you do. Ive been on your website. I want to talk about whether the plans can be reality. Anyone can put something on donald trump can come to a place like fort wayne and say and he did. And he did. Im going to wave the magic wand and the jobs are come back. How are you going to make the money. Im going to talk about that after the break. Dont go anywhere. Limu emu doug what do all these people have in common, limu . [ paper rustling ] exactly, nothing. Theyre completely different people, thats why they need customized Car Insurance from liberty mutual. Theyll only pay for what they need [ gargling ] [ coins hitting the desk ] yes, and they could save a ton. Youve done it again, limu. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Senator warren is not a life long politician. You were a harvard law professor at the time and you were going to capitol hill to testify on your area of expertise, the bankruptcy bill, and there were a bunch of politicians backing the credit card industry trying to make it harder for people to declare bankruptcy. Thats right. You ended up going toe to toe with senators defending the credit card industry including one senator in particular. Take a look. I submit, senator, that there are many in the credit industry right now who are getting their bankruptcies prepaid. That is they have squeezed enough out of these families in interests and fees and payments but what about usury rates. Senator, ill be the first. Invite me. I know you will, but lets call a spade a spade. Your problem with the Credit Card Companies is usury rights in the position. Its not about the bankruptcy bill. Senator, if youre not going to fix that problem, you cant take away the last shred of protection. Okay. Youre very good professor. Thank you. Do you remember that . Yes. I used to dye my hair brown. What did you learn from that exchange that made you want to end up going into politics . That you dont get what you dont fight for. And that thats actually a good example. Its i got in there and fought for what i believed in. Over a million families a year were filing for bankruptcy at the time that that was going on. There were people who had terrible medical problems, people had lost jobs for extended periods of time, people who had been left behind after a divorce or a death in the family. And those Credit Card Companies, they just wanted to wring the last possible nickel out of them. Those companies were profitable in the extreme, and do you know who they were making most of their money off . Families that were just right at the edge. And they wanted to mauk ke it harder for those families when it all went completely wrong to get a chance to get back on thaur feet. I got in that fight, and i am proud to have been in that fight. So, that relates to the way power works in washington, something youve talked about a lot. Frank, you wanted to Say Something before, and i want to ask you this. When you hear senator warren say were going to spend 100 billion on this and a trillion on this, do you think in your head i can see that happening and making things better here or do you think to yourself that seems unlikely . Its hard to believe because first of all, we need to know where that moneys coming from. Does that mean my taxes are going up . Does that mean the next guys taxing are going up . Wheres that money coming from . And the thing is we get everybody promising manufacturing is coming back. We get people promising that health care is going to get better. We get people promising all this stuff and it never happens for a simple fact like on irs tax cut you have tax break for corporations that shut down here and move overseas. So, they get that 20 to move their equipment. We had trump came everywhere and said were going to bring these jobs back. He told the guys in lordstown ohio. Ive got good friends over there. They were told dont sell your homes, these jobs are going nowhere. The plants shut down. We just lost jobs at harley davidson. They lost their jobs in may. We lost rex in indianapolis. You can sit here and tell me that youre going to produce these green jobs, youre going to produce this, but you have all these uneducated people and im not saying theyre uneducated. But theyre not in that field, you know . Youre saying were going to bring these Car Companies back, so why dont we take the tax codes off that are given them and send them theyre federal contracts. Guys all this money. Frank, im there. This is part of the plan. Youre right to ask the question where does the money come from because what happened is, yeah, the guy made a lot of promises. But then they turned around and gave even more tax breaks. Who did those tax breaks go to . They went to the biggest corporations. They kept the payments in there. So, in effect you can make money by shipping jobs overseas under our current tax code. So, heres how i propose to do this. Were going to do child care and by the way, were going to do universal technical school, college. Were going to do student loan debt. Were going to do all of this with a twocent wealth tax. Thats a tax on the 50000000th and first dollar of the richest fortunes in this country. Thats less than 1 10 of 1 . Im guessing thats not you. You asked me if thats going to come, where its going to come from. But the point is it comes from there. The other part of the money, the money were talking about here for doing green manufacturing. Wheres that money going to come from . Its going to come from a couple of places. Were going to take away the subsidies from the oil and gas industry. [ applause ] the second is just what you said. Were going to take away the tax breaks for moving jobs overseas. And the third is were going to say to the biggest corporations in america that publicly report huge profits to their investors, yes, im looking at you amazon, reports more than 10 billion in profits and sets their ceo compensation based on that, tells the investor community, and then turns around and pays 0 in taxes. No more. Were going to have all these Big Companies and it reduces heres the key. Thats how we get the money. And then the question is how we spend it. We can spend it on child care. We can spend it on student loans. We can spend it on Green Investment in manufacturing right here in america. Heres the deal. I get why people feel discouraged. But the bottom line is this is a democracy. And in a democracy, we need our budget, our numbers, to align with our values. And our values are not that the top 1 10 of 1 keeps their 2 cents and nobody else gets but wait a second, their Mitch Mcconnells values. Youre not going to be elected ruler of the universe. Lets say liz waelizabeth warre the president of the United States. Say that again. They had to scratch and claw. They fought them tooth and nail, didnt give a single vote on the Affordable Care act and they had 60 votes. Youre walking in. Youve got a website of plans that pencil out and people might like, but in what universe are those going to be passed . So, thats the reason that i am here today, and its the reason ive done 90 town halls. Its the reason ive been to 20 states and puerto rico and im going to more because the bottom line is weve got to build a Grass Roots Movement across this country. Weve got to do it. Its got to be all of us. And if we do, it doesnt just help the person at the top. Thats how we take back the senate. Thats how we take back the house. Thats how we take back governors offices and state houses and city councils. We build this thing up and down the line. We also need politicians and people in power like that to keep their word. Yes, you do. When they Say Something, they knead to do it. The thing is we need to go back where no offense, senator where people like yourself and people like paul ryan and everybody else, they need to go back working for the American People because were the ones that give them their paycheck. I agree. You know, you have policies in place where half of the republicans want to raise the retirement age to 68 or 69, but yet they could retire out of congress at 42, 45, and have health care the rest of their lives. Im just saying. I think youre getting at a point which is profound here which is that the question is can you go given whats happening both with donald trump and the nature of the structure of the American Economy and whats happened in places like fort wayne and all across indiana, four decades to come and say they will trust you in good faith, when you say theyre going to bring the jobs back or we have a plan to change life here. We can give up. Youre right. We can just totally give up and say hey, let them have it. Or what we can say is this is the moment we fight. I am in this fight all the way. I want to i want to how do you address these small thinkers in congress . How are you going to get them to come to your big ideas . So, ill tell you how. Thats a good question. Im counting on you, susan. And im counting on everybody in this room and im counting on millions of people who watch this. What i mean by that is yeah, it takes leadership from the white house. It takes the willingness to wade straight into the fight. But where its really going to come from is when you build this Grass Roots Movement, when you build this momentum, when people demand it, when people say this is the america i i want an america that invests in little kids. I want an america that cancels student loan debt. I want an america that invests in manufacturing here in this country. If were we do the same jobs they do just as good. Im with you. I just dont see anyone in congress or any of these high positions giving up any money. So i just dont see it happening. Youre not wrong. Heres the deal, the in a democracy were talking about youre asking for two cents from. 1 of 1 of the people. The rest of us have awe say in that. We set the tax laws. If were willing to get out there and fight for it, the politicians, more of them are going to fall into line. Remember on health care, i was in the senate when we didnt have the votes to stop the republicans from repealing health care for tens of millions of americans. But what happened . People from all over this country made their voices heard. Yep. They came to washington. People in wheelchairs came to washington. People mamas pushes the litt littlest lobbyists, little babies with serious medical problems. They got right in the faces of those senators. And at the end of the day at the end of the day, it was the people across this country who pushed and pushed and pushed and we got the votes and we saved health care for tens of millions of americans. I think having watched the way these political dynamics manifest, it does matter whether people are willing to pick fights or not. Yeah. It really does. You say youre a fighter. Do you trust that every other democrat in this primary field is a fighter in the same way . I know why im here. Im here because im a fighter. So, thats a no . Exactly. Look its a serious question. Im not here to talk about other democrats. Im not here to slam other democrats. Im just telling you how i see it. This is the fight that i believe we need. Back to the issue, once we do, do they honor their promises . Thats right. Do they honor their policies theyre going to put in place. You with issue with trump and believing him and him backing you, how is your vote swaying . Are you going uneasy . Do you know . Are you going to back her . We wont get into him. Hes the first republican i ever voted for. And i got a lot of people to vote for him. I believed in him. And that was just for your job security sake and thats it. No, no, no. It wasnt just the job security. I believed he was going to make a change period just like i believed barack obama when i voted for him. We needed a change. Now i think its time to put a woman in the white house. I think its time to listen to what we say because we are out there working just as hard as men are. We are. 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A kohler walkin bath provides independence with peace of mind. Call. And ask about saving 1000 on your walkin bath, or visit kohlerwalkinbath. Com for more info. We are back here in fort wayne, indiana. I want to ask questions of the crowd, but before i do that, senator warren, what is your biggest frustration with the way that the campaign gets covered . Too much like a horse race. This isnt a horse race. This is about the future of our country. And its about how we see the direction we want to go. You know, i think every one of the things we talk about, we call them policy. We call them budgets. Theyre really about our values. And their a statement of what kind of a country we want to be and what a people we want to be. And i wish we could do more of that in our big national conversation. So, were going to go one of you had a horse race question, i hope youre reconsidering. Thats right. Thats right. You sir, give me your name and tell me what your question is. My name is austin. Hi, austin. My question is Climate Change is real and weve got to get going on it. Gm is one of our largest employers, how do we make sure that factory is not negatively impacted by your policies. Good question. Great question. Heres how we have to think about this. Weve got to know what the goal is. This is what the Green New Deal is all about. It tells us two things. It tells us that this is an emergency, and it tells us where weve got to head. It was a lot like for me what it was like landing on the moon. John f. Kennedy set the goal, said i want to be on the moon, set a time he wanted to do it. People looked and said i dont know how we land on the moon. But what did we do . We invested in science. We innovated like crazy. And we counted on american workers. We do those three things right here in america, we can not only clean up our country and clean up our planet, we can actually build a manufacturing future for the United States of america. And thats good jobs right there. But theres just to follow up on that, right . Its a great question because theres if theyre making big trucks that get 14 miles a gallon, that factorys either going to have to shut down or be remade. Theres Industries Like Oil Extraction and natural gas that are theres no way to make them green, right . There are going to be folks that lose jobs in those industries. Look, what theres going to be is a lot of change but thats how america has always flourished. We didnt make ourselves into a country that says this works. Were stopping right here. We have always been a country that has innovated, that has has innovated, that has changed. What troubles me right now is the way this administration keeps trying to deny science across the board. Listen, thats not going to work. Thats why my plan starts by increasing by tenfold the amount of money that we put in to Scientific Research and r d, thats how we Start Building a future and then we innovate around that. Heres the hook in it that makes it different from where it was in the past. You dont say to giant corporations, like we did to apple, you all, taxpayers, you paid for the basic technology to develop that science, that technology that led to those fancy phones and then where did apple go build them . In china. This plan says american taxpayers will make the investment because we believe in building a future, but then you want to harvest that investment, you want to make big bucks on it, great its a 23 trillion market out there, we want you to do it but youre going to do it by building the plants and having the jobs right here in the United States of america. Tell me your name and your question. Hi, senator, my name is court any. Hi, courtney. When i ran for u. S. Congress in 2018 yay thank you. Everyone wanted to know rightly so how i would work across the aisle and that is so important. But i want to know the one issue or piece of legislation you feel so strongly about you would not compromise on it . Let me put it this way, i believe in working across the aisle when that lets us get things done. And can i do a short version of this, 40 million americans have hearing loss. But fewer than 1 in 6 actually gets a hearing aid. The reason is because they got a bazillion dollars and most people need two and theyre not covered by insurance, by medicaid. They do without. Why are they so expensive . The answer, its one more market that doesnt work. A handful of manufacturers have controlled that market and have driven up prices. So i had an idea and a plan to say what were going to do is manufacture, let anybody who wants to manufacture hearing aids, certain safety standards, sell them across the counter and drugstores. You can go pay for more or buy glassin glasses in a drugstore. I checked this out and people said that would work great it drives the price down from thousands of dollars to hundreds of dollars. I had this idea and the first person i called was a republican. I explained the deal to him, he said, what . And i explained it again and he said thats a fine idea, sign me up. Called me another republican, he said sign me up. We did this under the radar screen at one point the nra came out in opposition, i kid you not its true. But the point is, we got it through and next year people are going to be able to buy hearing aids over the counter, across the aisle. Now can i finish courtneys question, though . Yes. I do want to say on this, i was glad to do that and we made some changes in the bill, but were talking about things Like Health Care coverage. Im not going to compromise when people say i want to take away Health Care Coverage from 30 million people, say well take it away from 15 million and thats going to be okay. Health care is a basic human right. We fight for basic human rights so im in all the way. Thank you, courtney. So senator, i wanted you this is tj. Tj . Yes. He worked at the carrier plant, there was coverage of him asking donald trump to save the jobs at carrier, thats what prompted donald trump to tweet about it. Youre a trump voter. No, i didnt vote for trump. No, no. Okay. What is this are you what would you like to ask the senator . Hi, tj. Im from indianapolis. I worked at carrier, i still do, im a 17year employee, thankfully my job was safed. Im also with the United Steelworkers Union 1989. Go steelworkers. I dont know much of your history with labor and organized labor, so what can we expect to see your support of organized labor and how we can get that brought back up in this country. Let me do this two ways. I told you about all three of my brothers, military, first one was career, the second one came back and worked construction. He got a good union job. A good union job that let him support a family and put three kids through school. He has a pension today because he has a good union jobs. We want good jobs in america, we need stronger unions. The second is ill just do it a little bit on the policy side. And that is to say we got a real problem in this country, and thats a handful of giant corporations that have so much power they just roll wherever they want to roll. They roll over their employees, their customers, their communities. We need structural change, and the way wi get structural change is we need more power back in the hands of employees. That means make it easier to join a union and give unions more power in negotiations. Unions built americas middle class and will rebuild the middle class. Thank you. Theres a question over here that we cover on the show sometimes. My name is erin. Hi, erin. How are you . Good. Do you believe still that impeachment is the right path forward and why or why not . Yes, i do. And under this, erin. I didnt decide to run for president so that i could get into a big debate over impeachment. I decided to run because i was going to beat that guy, right, straight up. But the deal is, the Mueller Report came out and the afternoon it came out, i sat down and started reading it. I read it all afternoon, all night, into the next morning, all 448 pages. I got to the end and there were three things that are just, man, theres no avoiding them. Part one, a hostile Foreign Government attacked our 2016 elections for the purpose of getting donald trump elected. Part two, then candidatedonald trump welcomed that help. And part three, when the federal government tried to investigate part one and part two, donald trump, as president , delayed, deflected, moved, fired and did everything he could to obstruct justice. If he were any other person in the United States, based on whats documented in that report, he would be carried out in handcuffs. Now, i took an oath of office not to donald trump, not to any president. I took an oath of office to the constitution of the United States of america. And that constitution says no one is above the law, including the president of the United States. I get that this is politically tough. I get it. But some things are bigger than politics. And this matters for our democracy not just now but under the next president and the next president and the next president. We have a constitutional responsibility here. And thats to start those impeachment proceedings. I want to ask you a final question, we have about a minute left. Okay. I hear this from people, they say i like Elizabeth Warren. Good. She seems smart, she has a lot of ideas. But i dont know, i feel like trump would beat her. It just doesnt work. I dont know if people are going to vote for her. What do you say to people who say i like you on the substance but im worried about your electability as your nominee for the Democratic Party . You know, i remember when people said barack obama couldnt be elected. I remember when people said donald trump could be elected. Also true. And here we are. Elections are about getting in there and fighting for it and making clear to the American People what you stand for. I got in this race because an america that keeps working better and better and better for a thinner and thinner slice at the top just isnt going to work. We cant sustain this. I am in this fight to make this america, to make our government in washington work for everyone else. Thats my job. Thats why im here. Senator Elizabeth Warren, i want to thank all the folks here. Thank you, senator. To our wonderful hosts here, to all the people in fort wayne, indiana did an amazing job hosting us. Thank you. You can catch us every weekend at 8 00 right here on msnbc. 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