America. Clintons adviser agay rights paints a white house deeply and passionately engaged on policy, forced to sign it or reveal himself a supporter of gay marriage at a time when most americans found that idea repelling. Many advisers in the white house were afraid if clinton vetoed doma he would lose to dole in 96. Clinton signed doma into law with no joy. It is recalled, there are no pictures of this occasion, no pens that were saved. Of course, doma had a more negative impact on gay families than anticipated. By playing defense he kept us from getting worse on gay rights and preserved his place in the white house so we could have other accomplishments like a hate crime statute that included gays in an executive order. If American History has been a slow march toward expanding history, that march has not always been straight. Obama wouldnt have been in position to repeal dont ask, dont tell. I suspect clinton did the best he could though he lost some battles, he still helped the Gay Rights Movement to reach this movement when they appear close to winning the war. As any sports fan knows, defense wins championship. For a man who never plays defense, just plows straight ahead every day. Thats it. Martin bashir. Thank you. Good afternoon, its monday the 11th day of march. Dont tell paul ryan that. He still thinks its monday november the 5th and he and his mate mitt romney are about to win the president ial election. Our businesses have created jobs every month for three years straight. Nearly 6. 4 million new jobs in all. Wed say wed get rid of obama care and apply the savings to medicare. Get rid of obama care. Get rid of obama care. Get rid of obama care. Were going to get rid of this medicare by repealing obama care. Stop picking winners and losers. Winners and losers. Stop picking winners and losers. Are you saying as part of your budget you would assume the repeal of obama care . Yes. Thats not going to happen. We need our democrat colleagues to get serious. Get serious. Get serious. Get serious. Surely you cant be serious. Yes. Our budget does promote repealing obama care. Surely you cant be serious. I want to explore the question as to whether theres the basis for a compromise here. I have to say, i dont hear it so far. I am serious. And dont call me shirley. We begin with the battle of the budgets with blueprints in both parties out this week setting tax and spending targets for the entire federal government. And the man with the republican plan, the former vp hopeful with an allstar role in this Debt Reduction drama, Republican House budget chairman congressman paul ryan. Ryan will roll out his 2014 budget tuesday, a plan to wipe out the deficit in ten years, featuring bold, fresh ideas like repealing the Affordable Care act. Are you saying that as part of your budget, you would repeal, you assume the repeal of obama care . Yes. Well, thats not going to happen. Well, we believe it should. Yes, you heard right. Even fox news is skeptical about that one. But, okay, at least mr. Ryan is sticking to his big guns about opposing the Affordable Care act. Except, hang on. What about that 700 billion in obama care medicare cuts that ryan and romney campaigned so hard against in 2012 . Do you remember that . Medicare should not be used as a piggy bank for obama care. Medicare should be the promise made to our current seen wrnios period, end of story. Apparently aiming to anger just about everybody and make no sense whatsoever, ryans budget also has a 770 billion cut to medicaid over the next ten years. Along with the medicaid Voucher Program the democrats ran against and defeated in 2012. Ryan admits his budget takes advantage of higher taxes that the president won as part of the debt ceiling deal and keeps the savings from the Health Care Reform that it wants to overturn. Confused . We are. So as long as ryan is picking and choosing winners and losers to get his budget down to a lean, mean machine, how about those prospects for a big deficit reduction grand bargain after the president hosted paul ryan for lunch on thursday . Do you think that his socalled Charm Offensive is sincere . That hes really looking for compromises on issues that still seem like theres a big divide, or do you think its more political theater to at least appear to be reaching out . I think the answer to that question will be determined based on how he conducts himself in the coming weeks and months. I see. So its mr. Ryan who will be watching to give a gold star or a demerit to the president of the United States. Meanwhile, as the president prepares to meet with House Republicans on wednesday, there are no signs of any of homthem giving one inch on added revenue. More on this, congressman keith ellison, democrat of minnesota joins us now. Good afternoon, sir. Thank you, psir. Thanks for joining us. We know Vice President ryan likes to wax fantastical about his political position and marathon achievements and running times. Now it seems hes balancing the budget with all kinds of mythical math, including eliminating the Affordable Care act, which as Chris Wallace likes to say, is not going to happen. Didnt we just have an election, sir . Or am i dreaming . Well, the Supreme Court said it was legal that Congress Passed it and that people of the United States said that the guy whose signature is on the Affordable Care act is the winner of the election. So why were doing this retread is a little difficult to understand. But, of course, we do understand. Paul ryan represents a point of view that wants to shrink government to the size when you can drown it in the bathtub. He does not believe government has any role in making sure that the American People have access to health care. And hes an extreme free marketeer. To that extent, at least hes honest, at least hes being consistent with what hes always maintained. But what mr. Ryan is proposing is no new revenues, no cuts in pentagon spending, but big changes to medicare and medicaid, plus massive cuts to social programs. How is that a balanced approach . And doesnt mr. Ryan behave as if hes still fighting the president ial election . Does he not realize that the president won because he offered a balanced approach . It was not one that would simply lay the burden on the poor. I think that paul ryan is not fighting for the next election. Hes fighting for the next generation. Hes fighting for the last election. Well, you know, martin, i think that paul ryan and people who are like him have a very austere vision of what this country should look like, and it includes great privileges for the most welltodo and desperation and despair for the overwhelming majority. You know, look, three quarters of all americans dont have a college degree. The average income is about 56,000. What does his budget do for those folks in that category . Nothing. It takes from them. It increases the expenses that they incur. It takes away important Government Services that they depend on, and it makes life harder for them. For the very, very welltodo, his budget is going to be, you know, more privileges for the people who already have plenty. And so i guess my position is, we are in a defining moment of American History where the American People need to step up and argue for a budget thats going to help the 100 , not just the 1 . Congressman because his budget is a 1 budget. Congressman, did it not strike you as utterly disingenuous for mr. Ryan to rail against the president wanting to raise taxes during the fiscal cliff fight . But now he says, im quoting him, we dont have to do things because of the new baseline, meaning im going to exploit the president s leadership even though i opposed everything he proposed. Absolutely, but i think that its comedic, sir. Its not even subtle. Its ridiculous. I agree, martin. I think it is, but i guess when i read this budget, you know, i just see them projecting a vision for this country. Now, you know, on the other hand, you know, we have a budget with the progressive caucus called the back to work budget. The linchpin of our budget is not deficit reduction but job creation. We, our back to work budget puts 7 Million People back to work next year by doing things that the country desperately needs like invest in infrastructure and support police, fire and public works employees. Weve lost 600,000 public employees, and the people need we need teachers. We need folks fixing the roads. We need law enforcement. And so thats what the back to work budget does, but for the folks watching this show, i guess what i want to say is, these people are projecting a vision of america and so is the president , the democrats and the progressive caucus, and the American People got to make a choice about which way they want to go. We should understand that rich countries have poor people. And poor countries have rich people. And the way that the ryan budget will work its way on our country is were going to have a country with a tiny elite minority with a vast ocean of desperate people with no health care. And i think we need to know that. Were heading toward a vision, if ryan had his way, of Senior Citizens being in conditions they were in before we had medicare, medicaid and Social Security. Which is extreme difficulty. Older people used to be the poorest people in america. Now theyre not because americans stepped forward and did something about it. Congressman keith ellison, thank you, sir, for joining us. Thank you, martin. Thank you, sir. Next, strike three. Maybe jeb bush should have read the new book on immigration that hes selling. Stay with us. Whos the hottest florida politician right now . Is it you or marco rubio . Who are we more likely to see in the white house . Man, you guys are crack addicts. You really you really are obsessed with all this politics. Oh. Lets go. From the crack, off the backboard. [ laughs ] dad [ laughs ] whoo oh youre up oh oh so close now where were we . Ok, this ones good for two. Score [ male announcer ] share what you love with who you love. Kelloggs frosted flakes. Theyre grreat i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products dont treat cough. They dont . 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Undocumented workers would need to register with the department of homeland security, pay federal income taxes, as well as a fine. Still unresolved, however, are issues like how long a worker would need to wait for a green card, and then, of course, theres the gop insistence that were not spending enough on enhanced border security. For more, lets bring in lily gilvaletta, a hispanic marketing expert. And in washington, democratic strategist julian epstein. Welcome to you, both. Julian, i have to put this to you, and you have some experience of this kind of negotiation. What happens in the senate, whatever happens in the senate, the president meets with House Republicans wednesday. Is there a majority of republican votes in the house that are willing to support any kind of path to citizenship . I think at the end of the day, as a matter of political necessity, the House Republicans will pass this. Youll get a lot that vote against it, but i think you will get this passed. I think were getting close to this being a done deal at this point. The irony to me, martin, is this is almost exactly the same debate that weve been having since 2005 right after bush 43 was elected. But at that time, the extremist wing of the Republican Party, and until recently, forbid the republicans from moving on the path to citizenship. Right. Now they realize with mitt romney getting 28 of the hispanic vote, bush got 41 , this is kamikaze politics. And there is an important lesson for this for the Republican Party. If they let policy be dictated to them by the extremist wing or the kamikaze wing of the Republican Party, not only will they do the brand considerable damage, as they have for the last eight years with the hispanic community, but theyll accomplish nothing from a policy point of view because republicans now, at the end of the day, are probably going to get the same bill they would have gotten in 2005, but theyve just flogged themselves for eight years now by resisting this in an unreasonable way. Lily, there are a lot of conservatives out there as you know that still believe that immigrants are living off welfare and government handouts and government largess. Something john mccain found out about at a town hall last month. Do you think telling these people, again, the truth, which apparently this deal does, will have any effect . You know, i go back to the numbers. I love numbers. And when we look at who makes up the illegal population, half of them came to this country legally and were documented. I came here with a student visa, suitcase and pocket translator. After earning my degree in the United States, really had a way to stay and get a job as a student that graduated in the United States. That would have made me an illegal immigrant. There are many of those out there which is nonsense. You cannot throw one big definition to all immigrants because we are not all the same. And thats why reform needs to happen and its an overhaul. Because patching it here and there is not going to cut it. Julian, lets talk jeb bush for a moment. Hes not had a good last few days, as you know. First it was his flipflops on a path to citizenship. He was both for it and against it like a oneman episode of cross fire. On sunday, he was asked about his brothers legacy as president , and this is fabulous. Here is jeb bushs response. Do you think that there is any bush baggage . Do you think that would be a problem . No. I dont think theres any bush baggage at all. I love my brother. Im proud of his accomplishments. I love my dad. I am proud to be a bush. Julian, that is a point on wish jeb bush absolutely needs to flipflop. What will voters say to a candidate who says hes proud of george w. Bushs accomplishments . Even though most conservatives are not proud of them . Well, i would quote the words of a famous Florida Governor who just the other day said, what are you smoking . In an interview that occurred subsequently. I mean, the idea that the country, that he does not have bush baggage, when the country is climbing out of two very unpopular wars and the worst recession since last depression, is laughable. You, the only response is, what are you smoking . I think, you know, john kennedy wrote a very important book when he was running for president while england slept. I think were beginning to see the death of political books as springboard for running for presidency. Rick perry wrote a book calling Social Security a ponzi scheme. Mitt romney wrote a book talking about massachusetts being model for Health Care Reform. Those all came back to bit him. Bush on question of immigration had more positions than a game of twister. What we are seeing in his flipflop on immigration, just to parlay it back, is this kind of cognitive dissidence the Republican Party is experiencing right now. One minute, oh, no, we cant be for a path to citizenship because its bad for base politics, we cant get elected in primaries. The next moment, that kind of kamikaze politics is really bad for the general election. This is the modern day Republican Party who cant figure out whether or not the inmates are in charge of the asylum and why the party has major brand problems right now. Lili, you read jeb bushs book. Im almost done. 80 there. Right. And your reaction to it, briefly . You know, whats interesting, he points out six very practical points on how to go about Immigration Reform. So its like the first half of it is very promising. Then when we get into the extreme rule of law and trying to go back into, you know what, we just cannot reward criminal actions, then its when it goes back into calling of us immigrants criminals. Theres good things here, and back to whats happening now. Unless we go back to the core values of this country and rekindle our immigrant spirit, its not going to get fixed. May be good things here. Fantastic eight may have another one. Republicans, democrats, lets just do it. We cannot be afraid of an extreme right base that will then take us back to the dark ages. Everything broke since ellis island. Were trying to fix it. Lili gil valetta, julian epstein. Thanks very much. Stay with us. We have much more ahead. I dont think theres any bush baggage at all. I love my brother. 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Is there not a temptation, in your view, to consider a cardinal perhaps from the african continent . Reporter interesting, martin, your use of the word temptation when were talking about a group of cardinals. Whats happening in rome is absolutely fas thcinatfascinati. 2 1 2 months ago when Pope Benedict stepped down, if you asked people about the possibility of a pope from africa, you would have heard talk about a cardinal from ghana, another from kenya. Now theyre barely talked about. You have 67 of 115 of the cardinals never voted in a conclave before. They were appointed by Pope Benedict. Many dont know each other. Some of them have been cardinals less than a year. The last couple weeks has been a chance for them to get to know each other, to talk to each other. You can feel the ground shifting beneath you. This is an absolutely open conclave, but i think people are being surprised right now that groups are coalescing around the italian you mentioned, scola. If you can believe it, martin, three north americans including two from the United States. Now, we know that we should look for white smoke emerging from the chimney to announce a decision, but how long do you think this process is likely to take . Reporter thats the 6 million question, but there is some consensus among vote can watchers, and it is this. Friday, friday they think will be the time when some of the people who came out early but were voted on just as sort of a, you know, vote to give them a little bit of a pat on the back, they go back and consider more seriously and then some of the others get whittled away. Theyre talking about potentially a mass for the new pope on tuesday, st. Josephs day. Most of the people i talked to, i talked to three vatican insiders in the last hour. Most of them say friday. Nobody knows whats going to happen in there. This is the most wide open conclave, arguably, we have seen in modern times. Wow. 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I havent changed. I dont think theres bush baggage at all. I love my brother. Call george bush the devil when you spoke at the u. N. I think history will be kind to george w. Bush. Whos the hottest florida politician right now . Is it you or mark rco rubio . Man, you are crack addicts. Heroin addicts. Is that better . They believe in something. Working. They closed the white house to tours but the first lady can have a giant Expensive Party with adele. Just seemed wrong. They meet, and everybody makes a big deal out of them meeting and in the meantime our nation is going to hell. There will be more contentious debate and honest disagreement. Wait a minute, im going to start being nice to the republican leaders. Do you think his socalled Charm Offensive is sincere . The answer to that question will be determined based on how he conducts himself. Still believe compromise is possible. He is moving in the right direction. Im proud of him for doing it. Big question is, what is the president up to . As part of your budget, you assume the repeal of obama care . Yes. Thats not going to happen. We can come together to do big things. We come from different perspectives. I ran against him in the last election. Lets get right to our panel. Were joined by msnbc contributor Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post. Steve kornacki, who, of course, is my colleague and cohost of the cycle and msnbc director james peterson, director at lehigh university. John, if i might start with you, the president appeared at the Gridiron Club dinner over the weekend, an annual event that important people in washington put on for charity, and then get up to make lighthearted fun of each other. Of course, the president hadnt been since 2011, so he joked about that. Back then, he said, i addressed a number of topics, a dysfunctional congress, a looming budget crisis, complaints that i didnt spend enough time with the press. Its funny, it seems like it was just yesterday. So, jonathan, theres lots of truth spoken, and this one just goes to show how much the establishment in washington has fought this president tooth and nail on just about everything. On, yeah, just about everything. It was stunning to read the president s remarks and to realize, like, oh, wait a minute, yeah, nothing has changed. Although, having said that, the dinner last week at the jefferson, the lunch between congressman paul ryan and Chris Van Hollen of maryland, the president going to capitol hill tomorrow. These are all things that basically have never happened. And so hopefully, you know, when the president goes back to the gridiron dinner next year, highly unlikely, if he goes back next year, that set piece that he said this goround wont be true and that actually he and the republicans on capitol hill will actually have real accomplishments to point to look back on. Right. I think you may be dreaming. Steve, the president is meeting with congressional leaders, and theres a lot riding on it. In fact, in the Washington Post today, and im quoting, it says this. This week could well reveal more than any period since the president was reelected about whether the white house and Congressional Republicans can even begin to talk about working toward a landmark deal to brire in the nations deficit or whether the efforts will, once again, fall short. Could it be critical, absolutely critical for this second term . I dont think its this week. I think what happened here is the white house now sort of recognizes theyre in a months long sort of a battle, sort of a game, whatever you want to call it, and the real end point here is theres going to be this seven month continuing resolution that funds the government. Thats the time frame this is going to play out over. The hope from the white houses standpoint is they can reach this grand bargain obama has been looking for for a few years sometime over the course of the next few years. Public pressure will mount over the sequester, pressure within the Republican Party about the defense cuts will mount maybe. What he really needs is an acknowledgement from republicans, at some point, maybe the meetings can bring it about. I dont know whats behind this. Acknowledgement from republicans, they like to say obama will not be serious about the spending problem, will not talk about entitlements or take his own party. Acknowledgement from republicans he has put a plan out there. Hes actually taken on entitlements. Isnt that their failure . Exactly which i think suggests theres probably Something Else sort of in the water so to speak in the Republican Party. You know, this is a party that would not compromise with president obama in the last congress and so far nothing has really changed. Theyre going to compromise with him on taxes, spending, on the safety net. The republican capacity to blame the president for everything and anything seems to have no limit. Professor, thats true. Even among republicans, you might otherwise suspect of being above that kind of thing. For example, former Florida Governor jeb bush. Take a listen. What do you mean when you say he divided the country . I think basic part of his campaign was that those who were successful werent paying their fair show even though we have incredibly high taxes for highincome americans. He, i think he ran a campaign of them and us, and it was quite effective. That somehow the republicans dont care about the large number of people. Now, professor, former governor bush says that we had, quote, incredibly high taxes on the wealthy. Which im not sure the public agreed with him on that one. Hes also overlooking the fact most americans blamed his own brother, george w. Bush, for state of the economy on election day last year. Those are the statistics. So isnt this just another example of a republican failing to face reality an why his Party Continues to lose president ial elections . You know, weve come to expect a little bit more from jeb bush because hes been a more moderate republican in the public sphere. Once you enter into the fray of republican president ial politics, it makes some of these potential candidates go a little kra crazy as we saw last year. How can you make the comments in the context of the 47 being the defining phraseology of the republican president ial candidacy and the republican president ial process . I mean, if you want to talk about divisive politics, look at obstructionism in the congress right now. So i think a reality check in order here, but those of us who cover these things and Pay Attention to it know unfortunately once you enter into the president ial realm for some of these republican candidates, things get a little bit haywire with reality. John, following up on what professor peterson just said there, hes right, isnt he . It wasnt the president who said the 47 of the nation are takers . It wasnt the president who went around describing the nation divided between moochers and those who actually make things in this nation, was it . Right, no. It wasnt at all. That was all come from, you know, governor bushs party. You know, to pick up on what professor peterson was just saying, yeah, when republicans get into the National Political fray, they tend to go, as you said, crazy. I think its the problem of the primary process. Someone who is a fantastic primary candidate in the Republican Party will be a disaster on the National Stage and vice versa. Someone like Chris Christie or others who people would love to see run in a national campaign. I would love to see Chris Christie get into the president ial campaign, because quite frankly, im not sure he can make it through the republican primary process because hes not nearly as right wing as the republican primary voters are. Steve, going back to that jeb bush comment, it was the president that divided the nation. Right. Exactly. I think, take his comments and, now, what is he . Hes a politician who potentially wants to run for the republican nomination in 2016. So he reflects in a lot of ways the attitudes of the Republican Party. Thats what hes expressing. I think what we can see, since the election, if you look at where the Republican Party has e involved since november, theres been movement on immigration, a little movement, there might be, on guns. I think where theyre really drawing the absolute hard line they drew for the last four years is on the question of taxes, the question of the safety net and basic size and scope of the federal government. Theyre still married to the exact same posture, exact same rhetoric they ran on last year and theyve tried to govern on for last number of years. Until that changes, a guy like a jeb bush cant sit down and say anything but what he said in that interview. Wow. And they did lose the election. And they lost. Right. Thank you, Jonathan Capehart, steve kornacki, and Professor James peterson. Coming up, lean in. Lean out. The facebook c. O. O. With equal parts likes and dislikes. Stay with us. Im not suggesting women arent ambitious. Plenty of women are as ambitious as men. What im saying unequivocally and unapologetically, the data is clear when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever youre doing, men, boys outnumber girls and women. 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What i am saying unequivocally and unapologetically that the data is clear when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever youre doing, men, boys outnumber girls and women. For more on this im joined by angela rye, political strategist and principal of impact strategies. Angela, Sheryl Sandberg says women have a tendency to internalize all the negative messages and start to discriminate against themselves by not reaching out for opportunities. But is it really fair to suggest women, themselves, are to blame when you have rampant Workplace Discrimination and appalling fact the woman earns 77 cents for every 1 a man makes . That has nothing to do with women, does it . Martin, it has a lot to do with equal opportunity or the lack thereof in this country. I think that when you just take a look at whats before the Supreme Court right now with the fisher case, and university of texas and the fact that affirmative action programs are absolutely on the line as being unconstitutional now. That is an open door that will be closed to students of color. So when youre talking about not only unequal earning, earning potential of women, or the fact that with Hillary Clinton in the 2008 election, she talked about shattering the glass ceiling. There is certainly an opportunity issue here, and part of it is not, or doesnt have anything to do with women or their ability or their ambition. It has to do with access and an open door. If theres no open door, i guess we are to build one and then walk through that. I guess. There are a lot of dynamics here, martin. Right. We all remember in 2008 when thensenator obama told Hillary Clinton, youre likable enough, and that touched a raw nerve for a lot of women. Take a listen to Sheryl Sandberg on this particular topic. As women get more successful, they are less liked by men and women. As men get more successful, they are better liked. When we look at what happens, why more women dont lead, why we dont have a woman president , well, its because you have to be liked to be promoted. Now, angela, thats a valid point, but Hillary Clinton left the state department remarkably well liked and well respected round the world. So do you think this sexist dislike for women in power may, in fact, be changing following mrs. Clintons work at the state department . Well, i dont think its just limited to secretary clintons work at the state department, but i do think that will certainly help. I think the likability factor applies to women and to men. I think what counts as a factor toward whether or not youre liked may be different. Is that fair . No. But i think its the reality of the world. So what are we to do in changing that . Secretary clinton went into the state department, drilled down, focused on her mission which was to ensure that the United States was well represented all over the world. And she focused on that with a laser focus. And i think that we have a lot to do in terms of ensuring that were not only doing our work but we are making sure that the decisions that we make, particularly as women leaders, not only impact people in a way that makes sense but that the way in which we communicate them also makes sense. I think during the 2008 election, secretary clinton, thenpresident ial candidate clinton had other issues relative to the campaign that contributed to the likability factor. Now, angela, our show wouldnt exist without the smart contributions of women like yourself. Without karen finney, joy read, k krystal ball. The producer of this segment. We dont have a broadcast. What else can we do practically to improve work circumstances for women . First of all, thank you for that compliment. Thats major. I appreciate it. I think we continue to have this kind of dialogue, martin. We talk about the issues that impact working mothers. That, you know, for africanamerican women being the head of the household for some. And being a single mother. We talk about issues as it relates to women, as Sheryl Sandberg put it, who are trying to scale that corporate ladder and have other things theyre thinking about like maybe wanting to be married one day. Just having an open dialogue is certainly the first step, and i think youre doing a great job of that, martin. Thank you. Angela, you are, and were grateful to you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next, the gun violence debate from a slightly different perspective. But first, Hampton Pearson has the cnbc market wrap. Good afternoon, hampton. How you doing, martin . Another day, another record close. The dow adding 50 points. S p up 5. The nasdaq up 8. Thats it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. 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Two have passed, but if all three get to the desk of the states democratic governor, john hickenlooper, colorado would become the second state of new york where lawmakers have enacted major gun law reforms since the tragedy in newtown. But, of course, lawmakers arent the only ones who joined this fight. Our next guest, a citizen journalist from philadelphia, has shown that anyone with a camera and access to the internet can enlist. Day in and day out, his widely acclaimed blog, guncrisis. Org, gives you a streetlevel look at the scourge of gun violence. And how it shapes the lives of children, families and entire communities who remain locked in its deadly grip. So lets welcome jim macmillan, cofounder of guncrisis. Org. And former photographer for the philadelphia tadaily news. What motivated you of taking this step of a photographic archive of shootings . Why did you do it . You know, since i moved to philadelphia close to 25 years ago, nearly 10,000 people have been shot to death. I got frustrated with the constant, but had the same frustration not knowing what to do that many of us suffer. The catalyst for this project was a workshop led by the center for journalism and trauma where im a fellow based in columbia. They held a workshop in philadelphia on best practices on reporting on youth violence. About a year and a half ago. A few months later it developed into this. The only other thing id like to add, its not just me. Its a team of Award Winning photographers. Absolutely. Ive looked at the pictures, jim. They really are tremendous. Now, on average, one person in philadelphia has been killed by a gun every day for the last 25 years. One thing your blog does is show how this violence becomes part of the fabric of daily life for so many children. So i have to ask you, what happens to these kids . These children who have to live with this level of violence day in and day out . Well, its pretty difficult to summarize, but the problem of living with the violence is among many of the problems living in poor parts of cities like philadelphia. But were aware that there is sometimes a cycle of traumaization to perpetration of crime, and we learned we can disrupt that with certain therapies and other initiatives. What do you think, jim, is the best way to decrease the amount of shootings . Decrease the level of violence . Should we look at it as primarily a political issue . Or do you see this as a Public Health issue that needs a broader strategy . Well, i think its all of the above. An amenable to anything that works. If you look at the availability of guns in terms of supply and demand, the gun rights debate or gun control debate is about limiting the supply of guns. Our strategies are to focus on innovative solutions, innovative alternatives to reduce the demand for guns to make feel people less often like they need to carry a gun and less often likely need to pull the trigger. There are Public Health programs in philadelphia, in other cities that have shown doubledigit reductions in gun violence from year to year, but theyre small. They need more support. There are other innovations in criminalnolo criminology in recent years. We need to focus on the most violent offenders and not lock up everybody in sight. And weve got an open source approach to anything that will work. I recently saw, read an article about a technology that might disable all weapons from firing in places that we agree are gunfree zones such as schools and shopping malls and so on. Jim macmillan, thank you so much for joining us and thank you for doing what you can to draw attention to the terrible effects of gun violence in our country. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. 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