Canceled it . On friday, the New York Times wrote the following. Quote, a senior white house official told reporters that even if the meeting were reinstated holding it on june 12 would be impossible given the lack of time needed. President Trump 1307bded on twitter with this false accusation. Quote, the failing the New York Times quotes a senior white house official who doesnt exist, use real people, not phony sources. The source was, in fact, a senior white house official speaking to a large group of reporters in the White House Briefing room. We journalists try as hard as we can to always identify our sources on the record so that we can tell you, our viewers, watchers, listeners, why you should trust our information. Sometimes we agree to allow people to speak anonymously. Well refer to that as talking on background. Nbc news does know the identity of this official, although were not identifying him because we agreed not to. We, however, do not invent people. If we did, we would and should
lose our jobs. But i digress. This is one small example of a phenomenon, really a strategy of President Trumps to undermine the press. Heres 60 minutes leslie stahl explaining a conversation she had with the president before he had taken office. At one point he started to attack the press. And i said, you know, that is getting tired. Why are you doing this . Youre doing it over and over and its boring and its time to end that. You know, youve won the nomination. And why do you keep hammering at this . And he said, you know why i do it . I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you. He said that. So, put that in your head for a minute. Indeed. So, what does this strategy, these attacks on the press and more importantly, the attacks on the credibility of the information that you are able to learn through the press . What does this strategy mean for our democracy . Consider what dan balls at the Washington Post wrote in this mornings paper. Quote, if the president s goal is to poison the reception to whatever bob muellers findings turn out to be, as seems evident from what he and his allies have done, he is making progress. Heres the president s lawyer Rudy Giuliani spelling it out even more clearly. Giuliani was asked if his comments about the Mueller Probe are part of an intentional strategy to undermine the Mueller Investigation. They are giving us the material to do it. Of course, we have to do it in defending the president. Were defending to a large extent remember, dana, were defending here, it is for Public Opinion because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach, not impeach. Remember the congress, democrat and republican are going to be informed a lot by their constituents. Our jury as it should be is the American People and the American People, yes, are republicans, largely, independents, pretty
substantially, and even some democrats now question the legitimacy of it. To impeach or not impeach. Id like to welcome my panel to talk more about this. White house correspondent for reuters jeff mason. Associate editor and columnist for real clear politics amy today art. Former Deputy Secretary Of Defense msnbc analyst evelyn. And former congresswoman of maryland, donna edwards. Thank you for coming in on this Memorial Day Weekend which has not the pace is not what were used to in the Trump Administration despite the holiday. Jeff, i want to start with you because as i understand it, you were in that Background Briefing at the white house this past week. Were you im not even sure i feel like i should ask if you were surprised this is a tact the president decided to take with regards to this. It is a little jarring for him to deny the existence of his own aide. It is jarring. I remember even very early on in his administration he would encourage or tweet or say reporters need to use sources with their names. I printed it out and hung it up in a Little Office that we work in behind the white house because so often white house officials who do speak to us very frequently White House Press officials speak to us, say i can tell you this on background, which as you identified to your viewers means not with attribution to their names. They do it all the time. We, of course, would also prefer to use names. It always makes the story stronger, makes the package stronger. But thats not always the rules they play by. You at one point ran the white house Correspondents Association. Weve been talking about this now several days. We were just showing Maggie Habermans tweet on screen, of course the New York Times reporter involved in this. What is the steps the Correspondents Association can take in a situation like this . That is a good question. I mean, i dont speak for the Correspondents Association any more, but i do think its important for reporters whether we are all covering the white house or covering other aspects of washington or other beats around the country to stand up
for truth, to call it out when Something Like this happens. In this case the president obviously saying something that is untrue. I think we can band together on that. And then as i repeated over and over again when i was president of the Correspondents Association, i think the best way we fight back is by doing good work. A. B. Todstodardt, we want it be about the things were writing. If we have sling ands arrows, thats part of the job. There has been a lot of republican criticism of the media over the decades. Newt gingrich, we were not a favorite of his. But this does seem to be different than the kind of criticism that oftentimes politicians have thrown at the media in the past. Well, leslie stall laid it out. President trump made it clear as a candidate. He made it very clear as the nominee. And then as President Elect and then as president that he is going to run against the media because it works. It works with his base. It works with even people who arent even really trump
supporters. Republicans who believe that the media is too liberal, is biased. And then independents which are skeptical of the whole process. And giuliani there was claiming oh, there are some democrats who feel this way too now. It is a very obvious strategy. Theyre not trying to hide it. Giuliani made it very clear he is not a Legal Counsel right now to the president. Hes playing his spokesman on tv basically about the Mueller Investigation whenever he can get the chance. And it makes trump happy and he fights back and says things like rigged and illegitimate and thats what hes doing. Hes making it very clear. Whats frightening obviously is that it works. And what dan balls is talking about today is just how much this has become sort of tribal gladiators and the way that trump and his spokesman and sort of the pro trump media and his members of sort of this group on the hill of members of congressmen who speak for him
trash anyone who defends bob mueller, hes brought his numbers way down to the point Republicans Dont Believe Anything Mueller will come up with. Im glad you brought up dans column. I have more i want to share. The gap between the jeff flakes of the Republican Party and what increasingly is a protrump majority is how the president has been successful shaping opinion ahead of whatever judgment is levelled by the Special Counsel and his team. Heres Majority Whip in the Senate John Cornyn talking with hugh hugh et about what the president has termed as spygate. Can you explain the difference between a, quote, confidential informant, close quote, and a spy . Well, you really cant. I mean, spies typically i think of in terms of foreign powers. But here, the fbi was involved in a Counter Intelligence investigation, i presume, and used somebody who had contacted
various subjects of their investigation to communicate back to the fbi what they found out. I guess for all practical purposes, for most people it wouldnt be any different. Donna edwards, im kind of going back in my head to that clip of Rudy Giuliani we showed at the top of the show where he said, look, this is going to come down to impeach or not impeach question. He was acknowledging at its core there is a legal framework, but impeachment is a political question. Democrats in your party have been saying they cant get ahead of the American Public. They need to let the investigation take its course, have the findings come out. And then perhaps if the political will is there, there might be a way to move forward. But it does seem as though the president and his team are swaying Public Opinion without much pushback necessarily from democrats. Whats your take . Well, without pushback from republicans either. And i think that part of whats happening fair. Its a onesided argument
because obviously bob mueller cant and wont come out and say, no, this is what were looking at, this is the direction were headed in. The president out there who is able to and i would say the press should stop using two and three Sill Balanyllable words at a lie. John cusack. Its much easier to understand, the public will get that. And the president has lied repeatedly because he has an intent to confuse the public. And i think by not calling it that, what happens is that the president is able to characterize things so that the American Public is confused and you can see that in some of this recent polling. But its a onesided argument. When bob mueller comes out with his final report as we all expect that he will, and more, perhaps more convictions, but certainly more indictments than then the public will have an opportunity. Republicans cannot continue to sit on the side line while the president really dismantles the
system. Evelyn parker . I agree with that. I spent seven years working for the Senate Arms Services committee, one of the most bipartisan committees in the senate probably on the hill. And, you know, we always believed that nobody has the right to their own facts. And you get the facts together as republicans and democrats. So, the other thing we saw earlier this week as you well know was this attempt to get facts just to republicans. Again, about the spygate thing to amp it up. Right. Youre talking about the meetings at the Department Of Justice and information that those republicans on the hill were asking for. Correct. And i mean, in and of itself meetings to get information, fine. But they should be bipartisan, especially when it is about an investigation of the executive branch. So, i think the biggest problem is this not calling a spade a spade. Certainly falsehood is okay, but lie is even better. And then bipartisan, the republicans need to speak out and defend the institutions, the truth and the process. We didnt even touch on either the fact that there were white house officials at the
beginning of those meetings who may or may not have had the right to see that information. Through all of this, of course, the president maintains that he and kim jongun could still meet for an historic summit in singapore on june 12. The president confirmed on twitter today that a team of u. S. Officials has arrived in north korea to, quote, make arrangements for the summit. And heres what the president had to say about it last night. A lot of people are working on it. Its moving along very nicely, so were looking at june 12th in singapore. That hasnt changed. And its moving along pretty well so well see what happens. Those comments came after a surprise meeting between kim jongun and south korean president moon jaein yesterday. Afterwards president moon said north Korea Remains committed to holding talks with President Trump and to completing the denuclearization of the peninsula. Evelyn, i want to get you to weigh in on this broadly, but
first, jeff mason, are you going to singapore on june 12, or are you staying home . Im so confused. The fact that the president last week so very clearly canceled the summit it was a letter. Not even the tweet. Later also in his remarks that day at the white house, he said, who knows, maybe it will still happen on june 12. Hes been leaving the door very wide open for that despite the very dramatic cancellation letter. He wants to go. He wants this to happen. And so, how did the letter evolve, then . Obviously somebody convinced him this is the right thing to do or is this another impulsive, im going to send this because i want them to know im willing to do it . I think they were responding to a comment marc made the night before and which well either meet you for a summit or a nuclear showdown. The president and others decided we cant have a meeting under these circumstances. But he still wants to go. And so the key question there is
whether or not they can agree ahead of time that denuclearization will be the outcome of that meeting. And that seems to be where the south koreans and the north koreans have discussed a little bit and what the u. S. , no doubt, is pushing for in advance. Evelyn, i want to give you the last word here. What is your i was honestly surprised at the way some of the comments in the wake of the cancellation of the summit broke down on capitol hill. I was up there talking to republicans and democrats. It actually seemed to be a pretty universal feeling that Going Forward with the summit, assuming that denuclearization is on the table, was really the right move. I mean, do you see an area where there is a Nobel Peace Prize in Donald Trumps future if he can pull this off . Well, i mean, in a very distant future because the north koreans as we know, their goal is not to denuclearize, to give up their Nuclear Weapons program. They say very clearly we want to denuclearize the peninsula and thats a whole nother ball of wax because that probably means removing u. S. Forces. It means more than Nuclear Things when you ask the north koreans face to face. Right. But its a process and this is the whole problem. Everyone is for a dialogue and a discussion basically opening a negotiation. And getting to some kind of freeze and then, sure, great. If one day we can get the north koreans to give up their Nuclear Weapons, fine. I think the president , this back and forth, isnt very helpful. First he got spooked, to answer the question you asked jeff, he got spooked by the north koreans not showing up for some Working Level meetings and i think he thought maybe theyre not going to show up at my meeting. Right. So this meeting between moon and kim the south korean and north korean leaders respectively was basically to test, okay, you guys are coming, right . Trump doesnt want to show up yes, i think there was also there were also comparisons that involved breaking up with the girl before she can break up with you. Anyway, of course we would be remiss if we did not note that the white house issued a Historic Coin for this event
featuring the likenesses of the president and kim jongun. The initial Coin Offering was 24. 95 on the White House Gift shop website. Now if you want one, you only have to pay 19. 95. So, not the strongest start for that commemorative decorative coin. Who knows. Maybe one day it will be worth a lot more than that. Anyway, just ahead, my exclusive interview with republican senator james lankford. We talk about whether the president s Favorite Spygate is a fair description. His answer is no, at least, not yet. And as we go to break, a State Of Emergency in maryland. This is dramatic video of brown waters rushing down main street as flash floods strike ellicott city, not that far from where we are here. Emergency rescue is underway. 13 miles from baltimore, it was devastated by similar flood waters in july of 2016. We are going to be watching this story. Our thoughts and prayers are with our neighbors. We will keep you updated on that. Kasie d. C. Is back after this. , stuck down here between your seat and your console, playing a little hidenseek. Cold. Warmer. Warmer. Ah boiling. Jackpot. And if youve got cutrate car insurance, you could be picking up these charges yourself. So get allstate, where agents help keep you protected from mayhem. Like me. Mayhem is everywhere. Are you in good hands . Powerful skincare,s now lightasair a Breakthrough Moisturizer whipped for Instant Absorption feel a lightasair finish in a flash new olay whips ageless
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the Department Of Justice this week showed highly classified documents to members of congress at the demand of the house intelligence chairman devin nunes. They are, we are told, documents that involve a top secret intelligence source. You are a member of the intelligence committee. We hear all the time about the need to protect sources and methods. Was this something that hurt national security, these demands . If it gets out, yes. Otherwise its normal. There is a group called the gang of 8 you hear talked about. So, they have access to a lot of information that typically only the president has access to. So, its not uncommon for them to have access to sources and methods. Democrats are upset that emmet flood, the white house lawyer, was included in this meeting. Do you think his presence was appropriate . I dont think its appropriate if he saw the classified documents. My understanding was he was at the beginning of the meeting when they were setting it up, but wasnt present when actually the documents were shown. Those documents need to be highly classified and kept in
very close hold. If youre affecting sources and methods that is Long Term National security issues. Do you think the Department Of Justice acted 100 ethically and a politically in launching this Counter Intelligence investigation into President Trump . Interestingly enough, that is actually one of the questions weve had for a while. It is a basic question to say how did the Investigation Begin . What started it . Now, we have a set of answers from the Justice Department for the past year basically to say, this is how it began. Now there is a question for the first time in a while to say, is that really how it began . Because the time line is not matching up. Whats helpful in these documents and i havent gone through them yet, im not in the gang of 8, we will go through some of the these documents in the days ahead. But as we go through these documents we are trying to answer the basic question, how did the Investigation Begin, when did it begin. The president of the United States is accusing the fbi of spying on his campaign. Do you think that is an accurate characterization . I dont think it is a good characterization yet. I think they were doing an investigation. From what ive seen they were asking questions and trying to get additional information. My concern is why were they asking questions at that moment, why were they engaged. Was there enough information to say, yes, they should go to the next level to get additional information. Should he be calling this spygate, or is that misleading to americans . I would say the president can call it whatever he wants to call it. He always has a unique name for everybody and everything. Thats just his way. You dont see this as potentially dangerous or injecting politics into the Mueller Investigation . Were actually asking the questions to be able to find out why and what. This may end up being entirely normal at the end of it or may be a bigger issue. If the time line is different now and we find out when this investigation was done and when this informant was planted, if it was done at a time different than what we were told by the fbi in the past, that is a pretty big issue. Why was he planted before they started the investigation. That is an entirely different issue. There are great people at the fbi. Thats why it gets lost in this. There are tremendous number of patriots that work for the fbi all over the country and alameda over the world. I dont want them to get bechimeb besmirched. We have to separate out the thousands, 35,000 plus great folks of the fbi from one or two bad actors that might have been there that made an unwise decision. But we dont know that yet. Do you still have confidence in Rod Rosenstein . I do. I think he is continuing to be able to make hard decisions. He has a lot of hard decisions in front of him. The president wont say he has faith in rosenstein. A shame. Its a tough call. The has been clear he doesnt like the investigation he, he wants it to move on. He sees it as a distraction in the white house. Im sure there are conversations about this. Hes been passionate from the beginning, he didnt do any collusion, nobody around him did any collusion. He wants this to be resolved and go away. I said over and over again i think its best for the president and the presidency to have a full good investigation and settle this for the american
people one way or the other so we can move on. Do you think it is sufficient for the d. O. J. To use the Inspector General to investigate the origins of their investigation or do they need to go further . Some of your colleagues in the house on the republican side have called for a Special Counsel to investigate the investigators. I think the first step is an Inspector General. If the Inspector GeneralMichael Horowitz has been a nonpolitical person. If he comes back and says, hey, ive got some things im not getting access to, not getting answers to, then we have to be able to push to the next level. Lets let the i. G. Do his work and get that resolved. I have confidence in Michael Horowitz and hell do a good job. I want to ask you about somebody from your home state of oklahoma, scott pruitt, the epa administrator. Do you have any concerns about the ethical decisions hes made, the spending . Youre a fiscal hawk. He spent 43,000 on a phone booth without asking congress. He was supposed to ask if he spent 5,000. Ive known him a long time just as the Attorney General in
oklahoma. This is not a random stranger i just met. I know him, i know his family. Scott walking into government, i dont think did everything exactly right, but the Office Of Government Ethics is going through and looking at every single detail. To be able to make that evaluation. They are going to get the report back as well as the Inspector General as you know, to be able to walk through and give the report to the president and decisions be made. Theres a lot he has done right. An interesting conversation there with Senator Lankford. Evelyn farkas, you were watching and had some reaction to what he was explaining about spygate, this fbi informant and the origin of where this all might have started. Yes, i was trying not to jump out of my seat during this because, look, the spy issue was we were spying on the russians. And if you remember, you think back to the summer before the election, what was happening . We had media reports about the russians and their interactions with the trump people. I dont know this for a fact, but my guess is it began with the cia with other our
foreign intelligence agencies saying, hey, these russians are meeting with people. These russians are talking about this, that and the other thing, right . We picked up on it. It takes a little while before that gets solid enough where people want to say to the fbi, okay, step in now and look at americans. I mean, its not an easy step to go from looking at russians to looking at americans. Youre saying you think this originated with our foreign intelligence services. In every bone of my body, i believe that our people who were watching the russians, maybe other countries, i dont know. I know very well what our source ands methods are visavis russia. We had excellent Infell Jensen all the way up until i left in october 2015. And i didnt change as far as i know. So, we would have known we could have, we could have known, i should say, we could have picked up on something. So i dont know for sure, but in my gut, i believe that we, the american government, saw this first emanating from overseas. A. B. Stoddart, i spoke to
some folks on capitol hill every day, who are frequently skeptical of the president. Who say they want know more about the origins of this investigation and this decision, and that there is something that the Justice Department knows or perhaps that they did act incorrectly. What is your sense of ive had those same conversations. I think what people need to do is look at the reputation of the Inspector General horowitz and of bob mueller and they need to go to the internet in 2018 or have someone print the report out for them when each one comes out and they need to assess it on their own without watching the narrative and the protrump media or from congressman devin nunes or from the Mainstream Media if they distrust it because both of those men have excellent reputations and everyone is waiting for their sort of honest untainted assessments of what went on. The interesting thing people have to remember is Paul Manafort was acting for years as a russian agent. Paul manafort was on our intelligence radar screen since 2013. The reason you come in with wfb, the idea they had informants having conversations is how you would act if you were trying to protect the Political Health of that campaign. Its really hard to make the argument it was politically motivated in the end, brought down donald trump and elected hillary clinton. When we continue, were going hear more from Senator Lankford on why he doesnt see the president as a role model for his children. Plus, last week we brought you Kiersten Gillibrand who said they should stop dragging their feet and pass Sexual Harassment legislation. Of course hollywood still reckoning with its own problems and that can make for some awkward television. Just ask the cast of Arrested Development. Were going to talk about all of that up next. Hes got legs of lumber and arms of steel
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levels. Harvey weinstein was a towering figure both in the Film Industry and also in politics. And so theres way more left. Hes under investigation in l. A. , london, the Wall Street Journal broke earlier this week hes facing federal investigations. So theres way more to be told of the Harvey Weinstein saga. But on top of that, just this week we talked about the Arrested Development cast. We talked about Morgan Freeman which cnn broke a couple days ago. It opened the floodgates, right . Louis c. K. , all these names ensnared because Harvey Weinstein, the women that came forward, opened the floodgates for an entire industry several Industries Including as you mention congress, to reckon with how women and men and gender i am balances, how they are reckoned with in the context of work. So, i want to talk also about your interview. Jeffrey tambor, one of the actors of Arrested Development. He was accused of Sexual Harassment by a fellow cast member. He denies that claim. So, it was a remarkable scene that played out during the interview. Here is a piece of it with the cast of Arrested Development that has been getting so much attention and well talk about it on the other side. It is a very amorphis process, this [ bleep ] thing. It is a Breeding Ground for atypical behavior and certain people have certain processiones. That doesnt mean its acceptable. I just realized in this conversation, i have to let go of being angry. He never crossed the line on our show with any, you know e sexual whatever. Verbally, yes, he harassed me, but he did apologize. I have to let it go and i have to give you a chance to, to, you know, for us to be friends again. Absolutely. Its hard because obviously jason says this happens all the time in like almost 60 years of working. Ive never had anybody yell at me like that on a set and its har hard to deal with. Im over it now. I just let it go right here for the New York Times. And so jason has apologized for the way he conducted himself in that interview because i was floored when i read this, that he was essentially sitting there, Jessica Walter is across from him saying, no, actually this doesnt happen all the time, this isnt normal, this isnt how its supposed to be. And jason says this happens all the time. We certainly Werent The Only One that thought that. What is telling to me, i asked a question to jeffrey tambor, he had given quote to the Hollywood Reporter a week or two before ive yelled at assistants, ive yelled at directors, ive yelled at such and such. In the middle of asking the question, Jessica Walter chimed in with Jessica Walter. And i didnt even have to ask the question. She chimed in. It seemed to me that she really wanted to talk about it. And it was very striking that her narrative was incredibly different than the narrative that Jason Bateman was putting out there. It wasnt just Jason Bateman. Tony said weve all had our moments. What was clear from Jessica Walter, her perspective, this was not just a moment for her. It was clear to me, especially after the interview ended that this was not i dont know how much of an Arrested Development fan you are, we picture cast as this kind of family. Everything is kind of hunkydory. What was clear to me after the interview was that everything was not hunkydory. In fact the next day david cross gave an interview. I want to say it was to the gothamist. Elliott shock hat went up to him after and expressed how uncomfortable she was with how the interview went. I think it goes to show you the emotions are still very raw over, again as i said, Harvey Weinstein in many ways opened the doors for us to have these types of conversations. Yeah. Donna edwards, it strikes me that what were talking about
here is the normalization of certain types of behavior and the refusal or shift away from those behaviors being normal. You were in congress and i dont want to put you on the spot, of course, but weve had private conversations about what its like to deal with these kinds of harassment issues, kind of day in and day out. It seems as though whether its in hollywood or in the context here in politics, there are people who felt like oh, this is just normal. This is every day. Its fine. And people are now being able women in particular to draw lines and say, no, thats not fine. Thats not normal. It is. You can also see how difficult it is still that even when youre trying to point out that its not normal, that there become then the protectionists who say, well, you know, it is. And so i think what you saw in congress, you know, the Senate Passing its Sexual Harassment bill, the house having already passed one, well see if those come together. But it is a way to say to all women and to employees in the house and these others who are cultural institutions that this is really not acceptable. You know, i look at the hundred women that have accused Harvey Weinstein. Its not like its just a handful. And the stories seem remarkably similar that the Me Too Movement has gone well beyond hollywood and crossed over into any number of places now. Yeah. During my conversation with senator james lankford, i asked him to respond to some recent comments by one of his republican colleagues about the morality of President Trump. Senator jeff flake gave a commencement speech. He said, quote, our presidency has been debased by a figure who has a seemingly bottomless Appetite For Destruction and division. He goes on to say, our article 1 branch of government, the congress, is utterly supine in the face of the moral vandalism that flows from the white house daily. What is your response to that . Pretty good vocabulary for jeff to be able to throw that out there. Its been no grand secret that jeff has been incredibly frustrated with the president , doesnt like his style. I have been one that have said several times i dont consider the president a role model for my kids. I dont want my kids to speak the way he speaks or make some of the choices and has been the challenge for quite a bit of time to say, how do you balance this out between policy and personal behavior in the way he has his own unique style. I dont speak that way. I dont tweet that way. I dont interact with people that way. I dont treat my staff the same way he treats his staff. But that is who the American People selected and thats who were going to be able to work with. Do you think that people should consider the character of a person when deciding to vote . Whats interesting when you say that, the Me Too Movement thats happened, i think for the first time in a generation has caused americans to think, does it matter who says my news, does it matter who is in my movie or in my television show, does it matter who is in politician and wh politics and what they say in your personal life. Its what you do professionally that matters. The Me Too Movement has awakened people. Peoples personal lives do
matter. Bill clintons personal life mattered to a lot of people. Certainly to republicans, evangelicals, prominent evangelicals who said you should look at his personal behavior and condemn him for it. Those same people, many of them are saying this president , we should overlook it. What is interesting is the democrats said the president s personal behavior doesnt matter. Its flipped during the time period. I say the same thing i say now. A persons individual life does matter. It shows you evidence of what theyre going to be like. If we can hold alltel of us to our higher standard it helps our families, our kmuntsz, we want our businesses to be ethical. We want our leaders to be role models. It is ace positive thing to say. I would love to say the people you see on television, people serving in politics are a role model for your kids and your families. Has anything the president has done in office or anything you learned about the president s past behavior say with stormy daniels, these payments, have they made you reconsider whether you could support him in 2020 . That shocked me. It was pretty clear during the campaign there were moral issues and we have different lifestyle choices we have made personally. Its something that the president has been pretty outspoken on. Hes not tried to be able to step out and say that he is a role model in those areas. He said hes more of a role model in business and do deal making. I get that. I have to be able to look at policies and what were going to try to get done at the end of the day. Same thing people had to do during the clinton administration, to be able to determine what are we going to actually get done for the American People. A. B. Stoddard, i was struck in that interview, first of all, he did say and you heard him say right there, what i have to overlook this because i agree with this person on policy, but i have asked many of these many of those people i cover on the hill every day, do they view the person as a role model for their kids and they dont answer. James lankford did answer the question and he said no. He was honest and showed his discomfort with this challenge of trying to put his policy priorities first while having
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