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Dramatic story about an alleged sexual relationship with moore in 1992 that led to an abortion when she was 15 years old. During the interview she repeatedly pressed post reporters to give their opinions on the effects her claims could have on the moore candidacy if she went public. The post never reported the unsubstantiated story. Instead they researched the woman trying to push the story. They found a website with someone with the same name, Jamie Phillips, for her to work in the conservative Media Movement to combat the lies and deceit of liberal mainstream media. Closed quote. According to Washington Post, they followed her to her home and saw her going to the new york office of project seritas. It sets up sting operations, such as acorn. The Trump Foundation donated 10,000 to the group in 2015. Last wednesday phillips met with a post reporter at a restaurant in alexandria, virginia. Phillips had arrived early and was waiting. Her Purse Resting on the table. When mccrumben put her purse next to phillips purse to block a possible camera shot, phillips moved hers. Mccrumben confronted her about her story, lets watch. Do you still have an interest in, as this says, combatting the lies and deceit of the liberal msm . Do you still have an interest in working in the conservative Media Movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal msm . Is that is that still your interest . No, not really. Yeah. Not at this point. Mumble, mumble. The post also confronted Project Veritas founder james okeeffe. Lets watch that. Does Jamie Phillips work for Project Veritas. Did you guys send her to pose ta victim of roy moore to the post. Im 15 minutes late. Ive got to run. Jamie phillips, does she work for Project Veritas . He was quiet, wasnt he. He told hem to come back later. He was waiting from a confrontation of his own. Does Jamie Phillips work for Project Veritas . Are you going to answer that question . Im going to have a few things to say here. Were going to talk for a while. Second question. Yeah. Are you working with roy moore . Okay. So are you working with steve bannon . Im going to ask are you working with the Republican Party . No are you working with the Republican Party of alabama. Im joined by usa today, National Political reporter for axios, and the Political Editor at the root. One thing i love about this story, besides people getting caught with sneaky business on trying to put a punk job on the Washington Post, on selling a salacious story, a punking operation. It shows that real newspapers with real editors and to be honest with you, grown ups have been around a few times on the ride here who spot and smell deceit. They saw this as a setup. You know the musical schoolhouse rock, how a story gets into print with real journalism. This was paeople acting just lie you want them to act. Show it in journalism schools. Listen to an unsolicited comment from somebody. You dont take it at face value. Check it out and confront them if you find its false and phony. Good for them. I can see this Story Running if the post had fallen for the trap, big splash, 15yearold claims she had an abortion after being impregnated by roy moore, the next day, the breitbart sort of organization, veritas, a bad nasty offense. If we can destroy the Washington Post, then all the people in alabama, just shows you cant trust those northern reporters. Theyre out to get us. Thats the thing. There were two parts of this video that struck me. Everyone in my department was teaching this today. It wasnt the matter of how degrading and despicable it is to have a woman pretend to be a victim of abuse. And she had an abortion because of it, all lies. How many times do you get the reporters to say this would harm roy moore. Even if they got them on tape say, yes, this would damage them. They want to prove bias if they cant prove the reporters they report a pocketbook, a purse if you will, on the table, apparently every time the legitimate Washington Post reporter would walk in for two of the meetings there happened to be a big purse sitting on the table and she puts her purse, this is like black spy, white roy moore said the allegations to him were completely false and malicious, lets watch. Why are they doing this . Well, im going to tell you why theyre doing this. Theyre trying to hide the true issues, which faked the people in this country and state that they want resolved. Its no different than when the Washington Post brought out the Russian Investigation at a time when President Trump is trying to get his agenda passed. Everybody knows i have not one run one negative ad. But im going to take off some gloves and show the truth in this campaign. Well, somebodys put some gas in this guys tank. He looks like he might win now. I always thought he was going to win, chris. Really . At the core issue here you have a lot of conservative Republican Voters who view the Democratic Party as inherently immoral. If youve got groups of people, not a criticism, just a fact, if youve got groups of people who think that two consenting men having sex is a greater sin, that is a greater sin than what they think roy moore might have possibly done. I always thought he was going to win the election. If it ever looks like hes not winning, those are undecided voters. These are various questions that surmount any act of personalvilleny at all. Exactly. I dont think we know that yet. Roy moore what do you think of this third guy coming in, lee buzz by, hes a writein candidate, lee busby, he usually votes republican. Lets watch how that affects life. Take a listen to him. Were you a supporter of roy moore before the allegations of Child Molestation . What chienanged your mind that couldnt voit for roy moore . It was not the swirl going on. Not that at all. Ive got no interest in it. I hope they get it sorted out but its not my interest. I dont know roy moore. Ive never met him. Through theres a sense of selftryiself rig right jason, he looks attractive, i hate to make judgments, he seemed like raw material there for a candidate. Got the right accent. Seems rough and ready. I dont know what to make of him. Its sort of wes clark of alabama, tough and macho. I think at the end of the day, though, i dont think this ends up making that much of a difference. If youre someone whos offended by roy moore, and the republicans, like i cannot vote for this guy, then you write for the writein candidate. There are enough people, look, we need those votes in the senate. I dont think the first Party Candidate who wins because this third guy entering the race, hes pro life like roy moore, if youre pro life and you cant vote youre against gay rights too, whatever, maybe hes the safe way to vote against roy moore without voting for the enemy. It is, but i still think he votes for roy moore. It helps the democrat, but its irrelevant to the outcome, i would guess. I agree. How can it be irrelevant if you still think roy moore might loud . We dont know. Turnouts going to be low. If the jason, you made a great point, repeat it about when people said they hadnt made up their mind. They had made up their mind. They were for moore. Thats basically 101 in political science. We saw those numbers occur during the worst week of these allegations and suddenly you have 8 saying undecided. Theyre not undecided. Busby may end making a difference if its a close race. Its a five or sixpoint win. Chris, do you want to vote for the accused pedophile . This is like if were going to test the gap between what you said in the surveyor and reality. I dont know about that. Id like to know the fact feature, susan page, youre holding your powder try, Jonathan Swan and jason, i think you know where youre going on this one. Coming up, the russia investigation, connecting the dots of collusion we know right now. Were going to talk to luke harding, and author of the new book collusion. You know what thats about. Hes got the story, thats ahead. When trump called senator Elizabeth Warren pocahontas, she was was he propping her up for a president ial run in 2020 . It looked like he was building her up. Senator warren is here tonight to talk about that. And donald trump campaign, like a hes looking out for the donors, look at the trump tower tax cut. A total giveaway, the top 1 , it would hurt people who voted for trump, yet trump and the republicans may yet get it passed. Trump watch, you wont like this one, this is hardball, where the action is. 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Im joined by luke harding and our friend paul butler. Luke, let me ask you about this. What do you have that ties together trump with russia that say the New York Times hasnt been able to get . Well, chris, i think to understand the story of donald trump and collusion you have to go back to the cold war and to Donald Trumps first trip to Soviet Moscow in 1987. And one thing i discovered when i was investigating was the soviet government, the communist government wooed donald trump, paid for his trip. Brought him over. His travel was arranged by a soviet travel agency, the kgb. I think its pretty clear this was a cultivation attempt, which fizzled out, but then kind of was renewed in the last four or five years before donald trump became u. S. President. You know, ive long heard that russians like to have before of after the soviet union liked to have an american, their american, and use him for everything. They always feel comfortable that way. Is this that kind of case, they picked out who they wanted to deal through . Yeah, if you look at the kind of secret kgb memos from this period, extremely instructive, looking to recruit people from All Over The Place, particularly americans, certain personality traits, narcissistic, corruptible, not very good analysts, not faithful in their marriages. And really you look at all these categories and then you get to donald trump being, as i said, brought over. And then i think a process of reengagement with him about four or five years ago which led to the Extraordinary Events of last year. Luke, you write down a guilty plea of former Campaign Adviser george pop dop list thats now theres evidence of collusion. It was impossible to read the legal documents with their cold and 90 accurate. Its very damning indeed and it explains why we get vekted tweets from the president who dismisses this as fake news. Unfortunately for him its not fake news. Paul, when you look at all this evidence, its scattered, but its All Over The Place and theres a lot of it. Do you see a Criminal Enterprise Charge here, Something Like a reko, if you put it together, somebody must mast ter minding, so much money potentially involved in all these dealings . Well, Thats What Special Counsel Mueller has 16 of the countrys best prosecutors and even more fbi agents looking. So the concern is that collusion is not a crime, not even a crime for the president to be more loyal to the russians than to the american process of democracy. Its the Political Part thats supposed to prevent that, not the criminal law. Conspiracy is illegal. And so if theres evidence of conspiracy to hack hillarys emails, or to solicit Foreign Campaign contributions, then somebodys going down. And, again, thats the subject of the special counsel investigation. Luke harding, one of the earliest leads you followed was trumps history of dealing with russia as a business guy, something hes adamantly denied ever since the campaign. Lets watch. I own nothing in russia. I have no loans in russia. I dont have any deals in russia. I have no relationship to russia whatsoever. I have nothing to do with russia. I have no investments in russia. None whatsoever. I dont have property in russia. I have no dealings with russia. I have no deals in russia. I have no deals that could happen in russia because weve stayed away. Luke, if he were to say that under oath, all that under oath, would he be a perjurier . Ultimately thats for a kind of lawyer to decide. In my view yes, i think he would be on several 4re68 levels we know when he went in 1987 it was to discuss building a trump hotel in the center of moscow. From my perspective this was a dangle, held out as bait to donald trump. 30 years later hes still discussing the same project. We know from revelations in the New York Times that michael cohen, trumps lawyer, was sending an email as late as early 2016 to Vladimir Putins press guy saying help us build this tower. Meanwhile, trump is on the campaign saying, wouldnt it be good if we had better relations with russia and with vladimir. The flow is from moscow to trump than from trump to moscow. Thank you so much. Up next, senator Elizabeth Warren plays hardball. Get her thoughts on how democrats should fight the republican tax plan this week and whether she thinks donald trump is setting her up by attacking her as pocahontas and that nonsense to run for president in 2020. This is hard bag where the action is. avo if youre burdened by belly pain and constipation, and youve tried any number of laxatives, probiotics, and fiber, it could be wearing on you. Tell your doctor what youve tried and how long youve been at it. Linzess works differently from laxatives. 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A jury Convicted Hatala of terrorism related charges, but acquitted him of murder in connection with to the benghazi attacks. Pope francis is being criticized by human Rights Groups after failing to use a term rohingya. The country is accused of waging an ethnic clends cleansing campaign. Back to hardball. Welcome to hardball. Since President Trump was elected last november, opponents of his policies have not shied away from protests, not our president , the day after the election. To the Hundreds Of Thousands who took to the streets for the Womens March Back in january and the disabled protesters who swarmed capitol hill to combat Senate Republicans attempt to repeal obamacare. As republicans continue full speed ahead in the effort to ram through a major tax overhaul with a vote expected later this week the streets and hallways of the capitol have been largely empty. Only a few protesters gathered outside. President trump was on capitol hill with republican holdouts. With Congress Facing a december 8th deadline to avoid government shutdown, Chuck Schumer and Nan Nancy Pelosi pulled out of a meeting. The president wrote, quote, meeting with chuck and nancy about Keeping Government open and working. The problem is they want illegal immigrant Immigranted Frood flooding our country and want to substantially raise taxes. Thats no deal. On the senate floor schumer called the plan session a show meeting. Unfortunately this morning, instead of leading, the president tweeted a blatantly inaccurate statement and then concluded i dont see a deal. The president said i dont see a deal. Three hours before our meeting, before he heard anything we had to say. Given that the president doesnt see a deal between democrats and the white house, Leader Pelosi and i believe the best path forward is to continue negotiating with our republican counterparts in congress instead. Senator schumer also called the republican tax plan a gift to the wealthy. Lets listen. If the president and the Republican Congress set out to pass a middle class tax cut as they claim, this bill completely misses the mark. Im joined by democratic senator Elizabeth Warren from massachusetts. Youre a fire brand. You know how to make a case. Are you impressed by the democratic opposition to this tax bill . This tax bill is terrible r are you impressed by the leadership. We need to be strong against it. Right now, about two out of every three people in america think it is a bad tax bill. And yet the republicans just keep jamming it forward. You know, we talked about today, the fact that what the republicans are trying to do here is they want to give away about a trillion 1 2 dollars to giant corporations, and then they want to have higher taxes on people making less than 75,000 a year. And they want to raise taxes on students. People have to borrow money in order to go to school. This is a terrible plan. And the real question has to be, with two out of three americans opposed to this plan, why do the republicans keep pushing it . Ill tell you why. They keep pushing it because its a payoff to their big donors. Thats what the republicans are here for. In fact, some of them have admitted it, quite openly, that theyre here to help their big donors. If they dont their big donors may pull money from the next election, and not help them get reelected. Is one of the reasons why the democrats are so anemic and fighting, they have the same rich donors . Im tired. I saw a lot of activity, last january, a lot of resistance in the street. I dont see it now, senator. I dont see the action out there against this bill. Where is it visually . It doesnt seem to be obvious. But if you ask people around the country they get what this tax bill is about, chris. They understand that this is a tax bill to help the rich. They see it, they taste it, they feel it. And if the republicans ram this thing through, theyre going to explode the debt, theyre going to raise taxes on hardworking families. And by the way, even today, we had the nominee in to be the chair of the Federal Reserve bank. And he admitted that when you raise taxes on people making less than 75,000 a year, what you do to the economy is you pull demand out of the economy. Thats going to be hard on the economy overall. When you explode the debt, thats something americas going to have to pay for down the line. It is fiscally irresponsible, democratically irresponsible. Do you have a sense that i looked at the bill like youre the expert on the bill. I looked at the bill and i noticed one thing that states like new york, connecticut, massachusetts, new jersey, california, blue states are being penalized. Do you believe the president sat down with his people and besides getting their piece of the port they wanted, they wanted benefits for the wealthy and their donor class, i agree with all that, that they targeted the states that voted for secretary clinton . They seem to have done that. Is this a Penalty Box Situation for the people who voted for the opposition . They have targeted the states that actually are responsible, the states that say, you know, were going to tax ourselves a little bit more so that we can provide better education for our kids, so that we can invest more in infrastructure, so that we can put some dollars on the table for research, so that we can build a stronger future. And now what the republicans want to do is they want to say we want you to pay a penalty for that. We want you to be double taxed on that. All right. We dont want you who are out there trying to build an economy that works not just for a thin slice at the top, but an economy that works for all of us. We want to try to get in the way of that. We want to stick a stick in the spokes. You know, in massachusetts, we work hard, and we do. We tax ourselves so we can make investments in building a future for all of our kids. And what the republicans dont like is we show in massachusetts how we can make government work for all of us. Thats something the republicans dont want to hear. So have you excluded the possibility its a political penalty as well for voting for his opponent . You know, look, i dont know the motives. I cant look into the motives of these guys. But what i sure can do is see what theyre actually doing. Okay. Theyre taking states like massachusetts, that are doing a great job, and theyre saying were going to raise your costs, were going to double tax you here, because we dont like you building a future for your kids. Okay. Let me ask you about this im a student of modern political histories. You know, i watched you Lynn Don Johnson promoted rirchd Richard Nixon by calling him out. He elevated nixon. Nixon got the time to respond to him. It seems in a weird ironic way, the one state that didnt like nixon, massachusetts, it seems like hes promoting with this pocahontas nonsense. He cant get off of you. Is he afraid of you and ironically is he helping promote people wanting you to be his opponent next time . What happened yesterday, i dont think this is about politics. This is really appalling. That was supposed to be a ceremony yesterday to honor Native Americans who have fought for this country during world war ii, who had put it all on the line and saved countless lives, americans and our allies. Incredible men who are now in their 90s, to honor them, to honor their families. And he just couldnt make it through without a racial slur. Yeah. You know, i think that donald trump thinks that by doing that hes going to shut me up. But hes not. Im still going to get out there and im going to talk about this terrible tax bill. Im going to get out there and im going to talk about the Consumer Agency and why we need a Consumer Agency that fights for families instead of one thats just another big wet kiss for wall street. Pocahontas is going to be your bugle call. Every time he does this youre going to come Back Fighting . Its wrong for him to do this. Its wrong. Its not just ridiculous, its wrong. Senator Elizabeth Warren of massachusetts, thank you for the fire brand performance tonight. Up next, republicans pushing ahead with the trump tower tax cut, a handout to the rich as you just heard, a far cry from the Populism Trump preached when he was running for president. How should democrats be fiegghtg the legislation . That knows the weather down to the square block. 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Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea heres pepto bismol ah. Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea we are the driven. The dedicated. The overachievers. We know our best investment is in ourselves. We dont take no for an answer. We fight for what we want. Even for the things that were once a given. Going to college. Buying a home. And not being in debt for it for the rest of our lives. But were only as strong as our community. Who inspires and pushes us to go further than we could ever go alone. Sofi. Get there sooner. At the center of our plan are tax cuts for the working americans. According to estimates this bill will do anything but what he just said. Independent organizations like the kopgsal Budget Office and the Joint Committee On the legislation will provide 1 trillion in tax cuts for corporations as well as changes to the tax code that will benefit the very wealthy. Lower income americans would be forced to pay higher taxes. A Quinnipiac University poll says the majority of americans believe. A real majority disprove of the bill. Im joined by barney frank of massachusetts. Congressman frank, whats the worst part of this bill if you had to put it in order . Well, the overall distribution, the fact that it mostly goes to the wealthier people. I have a specific objection in someone who believes in government has a responsibility, that we have a responsibility for the government to respond, that they are not only trying to disable the federal government from coming together to meet our needs, they want to penalize the states that have stepped up. If a state is willing to enact taxes in its political process so its better able to deal with problems, that state gets penalized in the way they take away certain tax deductions. Its clearly intended not to simply reduce the amount of money allowed by the federal level to do major programs we have the president talking about the Opioid Crisis and providing no money for it. We go on and on and theres better no money for it. But what hes doing is penalizing those states that have been willing the people of the states to tax themselves by increasing the taxes that theyre going to have to pay. So along with the overall, that is the final point aimed at reducing the money the federal government has to do things. Other programs, they know too popular to do it on their own, twostep, first create a larger deficit by overall tax reduction, and say they cant afford the programs. Let me ask you, do you think this is pay back for the states . If you enumerate them, massachusetts, your state, new york, connecticut, new jersey, pennsylvania, certainly california their states that not pennsylvania, all those other states, the east and west voted against him for president. Is this the penalty box, is this getting even . Thats part of it, but for them its a two fer. It carries out the ideological view, that you disable government. Look, weve seen this playing out in the Consumer Bureau panel. Theyve got a Court Decision today. The purpose of having mcmuick mulvaney there was to shut it down. They dont want to interfere. And by the way, youre right, obviously to point out he said this was for the working guy. People should understand the way he plans to do this. His view is that by cutting the Corporate Tax out of the good goodness of their hearts, the corporations have more and more money available will voluntarily raise wages. That is, of course, something for which we have no evidence whatsoever. He is justifying and by the way, there was reason to cut the Corporate Tax some. The argument that cutting the Corporate Tax will primarily benefit or substantially benefit wage earners because of those corporations that have now become much more profitable will decide to increase the wages, theres no evidence of that whatsoever. Thank you, u. S. Congressman barney frank, thank you for coming on here. Were bringing in the round table here. Anna palmer, a very powerful person, senior washington correspondent for playbook, and kimberly atkins. Im starting with you, i get the peeling, kimberly, i think the democratic opposition has been weak, its been almost anemic. I dont hear this tax bill gets rid of basically doubles the exemption for the estate tax, give up to 22 million to your kids, lowers the top income rate, a lot of money, gets rid of corporate all together, and it disables, basically, obamacare. Its horrible from a progressive Point Of View or even a moderate Point Of View. Yet its still in the works and probably will pass. Why havent the democrats been able to bdestroy this thing. Theyve followed the same way, let the republicans horrible plan, the fact that they are being forced to take a risky vote, this vote, it depends on what you mean about whether it passes, only a couple steps down from the president. Overall people want tax cuts. But americans hate this bill. I think the democrats have done a fairly good job of messaging that this is really for the wealthier americans, that its really bad for the lower and middle class people. Is it going to win the argument . Im sorry, kimberly theyre likely to receive they want the other side to score the touchdown so they can complain about it in the next election. The democrats cant stop the republicans from passing a bad bill. I think they want something to run against. Anna . I think they have not done what they did with health care, they were able to personalize it and bring up people who said im going to lose my health care. My grandmas not going to be able to have her chemo, longterm Health Care Issues that were personal, story telling ability, tax cuts is not something theyve been able to message on. I think its a strategy. I think this is a lot more about the senate and Chuck Schumer being able to keep moderates, get her to not vote for this is a big deal. How about they would like the six endangered republicans to run for it. If those people break with the republican majority, if they break with them and vote the right way, they wont have a hammer to hit them with, the democrats. You would think the democrats would be working Back Room Magic on that front. They havent. The democrats have been lowballing this, taking this approach that maybe the republicans will continue to fail on the messaging effectively, which they have. Whos going to win friday night . Are we going to be sitting here friday and say the republicans won . I think so. It looks better than it did earlier today. If the republicans want to beat the bill they have failed. Are you sure they wanted to beat it . I dont think they have any ability to do that. Lets take a look. A group of more than a dozen democratic senators, criticized the bill and suggest that without major changes its unlikely they would get any democratic support. Listen. Rather than rush this thing through, rather than trying to find a pathway forward and people are looking for different gimmicks, if you will, use us as the gimmick. This is good faith, an effort to say lets do this as a nation, as the american team. I want everybody to know were ready to go. We are all hopeful that this misguided attempt that is anything but regular order fails so that we can then come together and work as bill nelson said, in a bipartisan way. I dont know if theyre all moderates. I spotted progressives in that group, ron wyden, in other words. What do you think, kimberly, do you think that six is going to shake the six republicans loos. . I dont know if theyll shake the republicans loose. It was a missed opportunity by Mitch Mcconnell to bring them on board. Was he allowed . I dont know if he was allowed. He made a decision early that this was a republicanonly project and that the democrats would not be part of negotiating this. What is mcconnell going to offer them that the conservatives who have been pushing this not for an offer, they want to destroy obamacare. The senate was the one putting the mandates in this bill to repeal the mandates. So i dont know what the what mcconnell or any republican senators are going to offer a mansion and others. I love personal politics. Mccain doesnt like this president , flake doesnt like this president , corker doesnt like him. Will those three guys go over to vote the tax bill to make themselves look good. Would they keep the love affair with their contributors than their anger against the president . I think it will be tough mccain to vote for this, after standing up before and refusing. Youre romantic. Kimberly, youre a romantic. Hatred is good. Im kidding. Go ahead. I think, look, bob corker voted for this in the budget committee. Theyre going to come together on the deficit. I think it looks more likely tonight. Your partys looking bad here. No, i think this whole thing is mishandled. I think they should have stopped the process a room and done it the regular order way. Well said. But youve avoided the question. If theyd done it by the regular, ended up with the same bill, would you be for it . No. Why are we arguing about the order . I think the pressures would have been different. Now the pressures is to pass something, we dont care what it is. I think this is pigs at the trough. Youre watching hardball. Use every possible resource. To fight cancer. And never lose sight of the patients were fighting for. Our Cancer Treatment specialists share the same vision. 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We saw a lot of emotion from Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell coming out of his meeting, a lot of happiness, he called doing the tax reform a 50 vote, kind of like the rubiks cube. I expect him to be pretty happy through the rest of this week. Mitch mcconnells happy, were not. Go ahead, kimberly. So weve been talking about different sides of the political spectrum not coming together, not much bipartisanship here. Tomorrow at the u. S. Supreme court there is an issue nighting people from across the political spectrum, from the aclu to citizens united, a case about whether police need a warrant to get cell phone location data, all these groups think its a bad idea for the government just to be able to grab that without a warrant. Well see if the Supreme Court is persuaded by their argument. To find out where you . Right. Location data anywhere you go, everywhere you go. Fascinating. Dick tracy would have liked this stuff. Michael steele, anna palmer, kimberly atkins. 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