Protect trump from a special prosecutor. Thats right. He blames him for two things number one, the president is a combatant. He likes people who fight. So he doesnt like that instead of fighting, sessions recused himself. But he believes initial step what set in motion the process that led to special Counsel Robert Mueller who is causing tremendous headaches for the president and his family. His understanding of the role of the Attorney Generalship. Can you square that what most people think an Attorney General should be today . Man or woman since at least janet reno, theyre seen as the countrys Attorney General, not the president s personal lawyer. Thats right. There have been people very close to them as the Attorney General, like kennedy. Or bobby kennedy. He would be the prime example but thats not what we think of. We dont think of the Attorney General being the president s lawyer. We think of him being the lawyer
for the country. In a way thats very important institutionally. It is interesting that Jeff Sessions, democrats are not big fans of Jeff Sessions when he was named Attorney General bust now he is seen by democrats as someone who is standing up for the institution. Why doesnt somebody tell trump that . That Attorney Generals are a bit independent. Theyre almost part of Court System Sflflt if youre a Business Leader maybe, your chief lawyer, chief counsel, is watching your back. Thats his number one client. But for the Attorney General, the president is not in fact his number one client. Well, trump got it wrong. Today trump seemed the dismiss sessions early endorsement of his Candaidacace Yiflt he said t to alabama. I had 40,000 people. He was a senator from alabama. I won this state by a lot. Massive numbers. A lot of the states i won by were massive numbers. What they shared as an agenda. Everybody assumes these guys have 50 options. He is an attorney, hes been elected a number of times tooflt conservative for my blood but i think he fits right in with that state down there. Does he have a home to go home to . Can he go home again . Im sure he does have a number of options but i think what is disconcerting to him, he gave up a safe senate seat. A seat he held for 20 years to sort of serve a lifelong dream. And six months in, he is being publicly and scathingly trashed by the president for doing what many people think was the appropriate thing to do in recusing himself. This was one thing. No matter where he ends up, hes been deeply humiliated. This is one reason the Trump White House is having trouble attracting top talent to go in. So he may get the kennedys encouraging award. There are multiple reports of frustration among trumps entire cabinet. Eric ericson quoted one unnamed secretary criticized. If he can get treated that way, what about the rest of us . Thats how people think in the real world. Meanwhile, reuters reports Foreign Policy officials are saying, Secretary Of State he Rex Tillerson have told him hell be lucky to last a year. H. R. Mcmaster was frustrated by what he sees as disorganization and Indiscipline On Key Policy Issues in the white house. You write the big stories. In all seriousness, is there the rest saying, if he can swing it. Hes a close pal of the president s. Look at the chief of staff. Reince priebus. The level of instability and possible disruption is extraordinary. Two of the top ranking cabinet officials, tillerson and sessions, in some turmoil. The National Security adviser, people who have given the administration the credibility that it craved at the beginning with some of these big names are now thinking about leaving. It affects the relationship we senators. He wasnt like the most popular senator but he was a respected senator, to then be treated this way. He is treating him like spicer. This is lbj stuff. The newly installed Communications Director is looking to shake up his staff. He is exercising a broad mandate for the president he and intends to follow up on threats he to
purge aides he believes are disloyal to trump and leake to the presses. His answer, ill going to fire everybody. Youre going to stop leaking or ill be fired. I have the authority to do just that. One Communications Staffer has resigned. It is not exactly clear what led to that resignation. Finish up here, what is the mood . If you talk to the confidantes, do they breathe a sense that theyre not really intimates of the president . Theyre not his men and women . Or are they still loyal for the appointment itself . Because of all the tensions, the confidantes of some Cabinet Secretaries who ive spoken to say their whole m. O. , their approach is to keep their distance right now from the president. Be an ally. Support his policies. If they dont have a deep personal relationship with him, theyre in protection mode in their agencies trying to weather the storm. What about the cab complete the . The whole feeling . Do they feel like he is not loyal downward . I think they feel he that. I think some of them have a longer leash. For example, Ambassador Haley has been able to be out in front of the president. They represent the president but oftentimes, theyre overseas, theyre trying their best to represent the administration. Something the president does or says or tweets undercuts them in the eyes of the world. You can see a few others that have been described. Thank you very much. Coming up, trump lets sessions
twist in the hill. Well talk to a key member of congress who was in that meeting with kushner behind close he had doors, coming up, plus, john mccain returns, the first step toward taking Health Care Away from americans. Something President Trump the republicans are now close to doing. Theyre not going to get it done. In the president s speech last night, did the boy scouts once again control the Political Convention . He used the scouts as a Studio Audience for a political speech and tonight hell be at it again, ripping his political points in a Campaign Style speech in ohio. He is using every, he is using he have audience. He lets see, there are the wildcats til we die weekenders. The watch me let if fly. This i gotta try weekenders. Then weve got the bendy. Spendy weekenders. The tranquility awaits. Hanging with our Mates Weekenders and the its been quite a day. So glad we got away weekenders. Whatever kind of weekender you are, theres a hilton for you. Book your Weekend Break direct at hilton. Com and join the weekenders. Take the zantac it challenge pill works fast . Zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. Nexium can take 24 hours. When heartburn strikes, take zantac for faster relief than nexium or your money back. Take the zantac it challenge. A short time ago the house voted overwhelmingly, despite objections from President Trump. The legislation passed by a veto proof margin. 4193. All the dissenting votes came from house republicans. The bill includes a provision that would make it harder to roll back any measures imposed against russia and now heads to the senate for final approval. Well be right back. 1,200 workers are starting their day building on over a hundred years of heritage, craftsmanship and innovation. Today were bringing you americas number one shave at lower prices every day. Putting money back in the pockets of millions of americans. As one of those workers, im proud to bring you gillette quality for less, because nobody can beat the men and women of gillette. Gillette the best a man can get. Nbc reports a source close to manafort says he turned over to the Senate Committee the notes that he took during the 2016 trump tower meeting. Thats important. He took notes. The other guy Jared Kushner thought wasnt very important. Manafort thought it was and he forwarded the emails proposing the meeting which indicated the russian government was supporting donald trump. By the way, jared got that same email. Despite that, he repeatedly dismissed cell Lynn Meddling as a talking point. Are there any ties between mr. Trump, you or your campaign, and putin and his campaign . No. There are not. It is absurd. Theres no basis to it. Lets go back to this issue of russia and hacking. Can you tell us what you know about the relationship and what donald trump believes . We have no relationship. This is an absurd attempt by the Clinton Campaign to try to get
the focus off what the real issue is. Theyre pretty desperate pretty quickly is all i have to say. It is a far reach. That was a joke but today it is not a joke. Im joined by Walk 18 Castro who was at that meeting. Also, in the white house, from rhode island, on the Senate Judiciary committee. I want to start with the congressman. I know the rules are what they are. Was he help. Is he just left guard up to the teeth and was so careful, you couldnt even read anything new on what he had to say . No. He was helpful. He stayed for an extra hour to speak with the committee. So he didnt answer, or Couldnt Answer every question that we asked him but he had a demeanor that was forthcoming. We have more questions to ask of him so i know once we have a chance to go through transcript of this interview, hopefully hell come back for another
interview. Where are you on the estimate of this guy . Is he the freddo character, from the godfae dsgodfather, not too sophisticated, or is he worth the portfolio, everything you can imagine being responsible for, and yet theyre trying to say, hes not too sophisticated chflt is it . Sophisticated or not . I think the jury is still out on that. How about you as a jury member . As a juror . I will say. This two things are clear to me. First, that the president puts a lot of trust on Jared Kushner. Perhaps more than anyone else in his immediate family. And also, that Jared Kushner very much wants to protect the president. Those two things based on what i heard stood out for me. How many times did abby lowell stop him from answering a question . They were pretty forthcoming. As in any Deposition Situation youre in. Stopping a question. It seemed to me they tried to answer the questions. You said there were some questions he Couldnt Answer. What did you mean . As with any witness, there are things that other people may have knowledge of, that the person doesnt have first hand or direct knowledge of. So cant speak to. But thats part of an investigation. Youre not going on get the full story from any single witness, which is why this investigation and this witness list is extensive. It is like putting a puzzle together. Can you imagine going to a meeting with russians who came with email that said, your points are on your side of the coming election. They get some dirt on your point and they want to have a meeting about it. They want to talk about the sanctions. Is that credible that someone
could take that position . Isnt it credible generally . Well, you know, he made clear in his own statement this idea that he didnt, he thought the meeting was a waste of time. That honestly hard to believe because the email said Something Like private and confidential. It also said they were they were his fatherinlaw win the election. Thats right. So i think not just for committee members, but for any american who sees that. At first glance. Thats quite hard to believe. Okay. Thank you for coming on again tonight. Lets talk about paul manafort. From the beginning hes had russian connections. That was one reason trump liked him. He owes 17 million to the oligarchs over there. Is he going on testify or lawyering his way out of this or what . Well, we will see. I am very happy that chairman
grassley actually issued a subpoena for him, which i think gets everything set up right. And in response to that, there are document requests that are pending and the possibility of staff interviews that are being negotiated, and ultimately, i both hope and expect that he will be brought before the committee in a public hearing. Obviously it wont be tomorrow at this point and it will be up to the chairman to fick date. I believe thats the direction that were heading in. It is not uncommon to do that kind of preparatory work before you bring on a witness in a public hearing. Speaking of preparatory work, he walked into that meeting that Jared Kushner says was a waste of time with a notebook, he wrote down contemporaneous notes. He was a russian guy. He knows russian connections. He knew a meeting with these top russians that were representing to be with the government in an
effort to try to help win the election against his point. He took dead seriously. How would you rt square that with the claim of Jared Kushner that it was a casual stop bied kind of thing . Well, it is very hard to square, as youve pointed out. It is not often the turbulence of a campaign at this juncture, that you get the candidates he son, the soninlaw and the Candidates Campaign chairman all in room together over nothing and it gets particularly change when the memo that sets it all up that was circulated amongst all of them describes this as being part of the russian governments plan to interfere in the election. And they all look at that, and say, im coming in any way. A lot of people would look at that memo think and it is a set up. It is so incriminating. And they all came in anyway. Lets watch something bummed
this investigation earlier this spring in april. Have you seen any hard evidence of collusion yet . I guess i would say this. That my impression is, i wouldnt be surprised after all this is said and done that some people end up in jail. What do you think Collusion Means . It seems like it could be showing up in a meeting with foreigners, in this case, russia. Isnt that collusion . Absolutely. He was speaking of not only collusion but possible obstruction or coverup or other things. So i stand by that answer. Not in a malhe have lent way. If you ask me, my impression is that people wont get out of this completely unscathed and
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you 60 began. Teetering on the edge of defeat, senator john mccain strode into the Chal Bettmber and cast a dr vote to move the vote forward. Lets watch that. [ applause ] mr. Mccain. Because not one democrat voted for the bill, Vice President mike pence had to cast the decided 51st vote which he did. And after the vote, mccain who returned to his home to arizona where he is recovering from surgery. The administration and Congressional Democrats shouldnt have forced through Congress Without any opposition support a social and economic change as massive as obamacare. And we shouldnt do the same with ours. Why dont we try the old way of legislating in the senate . The way our rules and customs encourage us to act . If this process ends in failure, which seems likely, then lets return to regular order. Forcing the vote was a risky move by mcconnell who required his members to take a leem of faith because it is unclear what the bill will be. Joining us, michael steele, and congresswoman from illinois. You voted against it but they jammed through a version of this. I dont think the Republican Party is a governing party. I think theyre still a protest party. Theyre still running against washington and the government. They dont have the slightest idea of how to square the circle of repeal and replace. All we have to do is look at the last six months of what has gotten done. The election season talked about a trilliondollar infrastructure package, a jobs bill. Weve gotten nothing done because we have these constant distractions. I think john mccain pointed out, the American Public deserves more from the Republican Party. His move to proceed was procedural. And i think a lot of people on the left say that was terrible. All did he was move to me, the mayhem into the spotlight. There is no Republican Health care philosophy. Except dont do anything on health care. And that wont sell. Not only that. I think theres a philosophy. It is not very clear. Do you believe the federal government would have ever moved on health care if the democrats hadnt done it on obamacare . Thats your philosophy. Dont do anything. Thats not the philosophy. Dont do anything. There were swhoissues. Wasnt about so much health care as it was insurance. And i think thats always been a very, very important distinction. Help me on that. This whole thing has been geared toward the insurance companies. Doctors arent at the table. Health care providers arent at the table. Does federal government have a responsibility to make sure the American People have insurance . No. I worked in health care for ten years. I worked in health care before, during and after the Affordable Care act was passed. Is it fair to stay party goes from public option, single payer, or at least Something Like obamacare. They believe in doing something. For right now, democrats stand with our arms wide open saying well work with you. We want to bring down cost Prescription Drugs west want to make sure copays and premiums are available. And i think the way do you know that, this week and over the next few weeks, begin to roll out what your plan would be, to help move republicans into that space. I tell you, the democrats are in
the exact same position the republicans were in. They did it yesterday. Im sorry. Chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, the leaders on both sides, rolled out a plan. Three legs of it. And one of the legs was, Prescription Drugs. Pillars. Have they had it scored . Get it scored and put it on the floor and lets talk about it. So it is just an idea. Okay, miss manners. They made proposal. Fine. You have a proposal. You have your come hes in the house and senate. You go first. You go first. A former speaker of the house, john boehner telling a Business Gathering that republicans wouldnt repeal obamacare. Lets listen. There wont be resale and replace obamacare. It has been around too long. The American People have gotten
accustomed to it. To this medicaid expansion. Trying to pull it back wont work. Didnt he just say youre going to do something . Thats the reality. They should do something. You tell me what will get passed the next three weeks. Nothing. Okay then. Expose the fact little slower that they aint got nothing to do. They dont believe in National Health care. Well, what you referenced earlier, we rolled out what were calling a better deal. It is not just a slogan. I think make america again is a good slogan. Better jobs, better wages. Look, when we rolled out fire pelosi, that was a call to
action. Thats positive. It was. Fire somebody. It was. Why do you think it works for trump . Okay, all right. So youre going to tell me. What is the call to snacks we have a better deal for you or we need you to take out okay. On youre getting so passionate now. Fire pelosi seems to have lit your fire. Michael steele. And one of the great members of congress. Up next, President Trump has declared a war on political norms. Last night he gave rambling speech on boy scouts. I thought they were protected from politics. More coming up in the roundtable. Theres nothing more important to me than my vacation. So when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy to find what i want. Booking. Com gets it. And with their price match, i know im getting the best price every time. Cmon, gary
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use some more loyalty, i will tell you that. So i have to tell you, what we did in all fairness is an unbelievable tribute to you and all of the other millions and millions of people that came out and voted for make America Great again. Just a question, did president obama ever come to a jamboree . What do you say . Boy scouts are like 11 years old to start with. It is supposed to be a nonpolitical crowd which they are. Maybe they like having they will there. It is an event for Tens Of Thousands of children from across the country. President trump is probably the first to talk politics. Last night the Boy Scouts Of America made a statement to clarify their position. The Boy Scouts Of America is
wholy nonpartisan. The invitation for the sitting u. S. President is a longstanding tradition and is in no way an endorsement of any Political Party or specific policies. He was in youngstown, ohio, and heres what he had to say a short time ago. And now tonight, im back in the center of the american heartland, far away from the washington swamp to spend time with thousands of true american patriots. Im here this evening to cut through the fake news filter, and to speak straight to the American People. Fake news. Fake, fake, fake news. Is there any place that is more fun, more exciting, and safer than a trump rally . Lets bring in our hardball roundtable. The correspondent for reuters, the reporter for axios, and a congressional reporter for npr. Lets talk about it. In fact, youll start by laughing. What do you make of trump using the boy scouts . Just the breaking of all the norms, going after obama as an illegal immigrant. It is like hes shooting the moon. Like in hearts. Everything he does is against the normal way to do something. He is still in the high 30s. We clearly have seen with this president nrgs his mind, every stage a Campaign Stage and every audience deserves a show or a spectacle. There is an art of addition. You try to turn people who didnt support you before and you try to make they will support you. Every time he does, there it is a missed moment to reach across the aisle. He doesnt win by uniting. He wins by passionate division. So far that was enough to get him to the white house, clearly. It is fair to say hes kissed off the big cities all across the country and it doesnt steam bother him much. Breaking all the norms. He doesnt accept any rules. There are these moments when you can elevate things. You can elevate things. Lord knows, 40,000 boy scouts is one of those moments. He talks about hillary and obama and you dont need to receive to the 54 . Lets just are imagine theres a chance that theory is wrong. Even his mild mannered bullying. The huge department. Thats a Street Corner drugstore cowboy, standing on the Street Corner saying, you dont mess with me. Youre out of here. This is not what the scouts would have liked in terms of role modeling. If you want to drain the swamp and fill with it people who are good, a crowd of scouts might be the best Recruiting Place you could go to. Inset the of being the role model, he was disparaging washington and saying dont get involved unless youll be that loyal to me. It would have been great if he wore a scout uniform. The merit badges. Scouters wear them. They do that. It would be more appropriate, i think. Wouldnt it . Perhaps. Who knows. Donald trump wasnt a boy scout or even an eagle scout. Some of the members of his cabinet were. And then to have, to encourage the boy scouts to boo hillary
clinton was a definite low moment. I dont think theres a merit badge in hate. Last nights speech to the boy scouts wasnt the last time in the last few days the president turned something into a political rally. Heres what he said for the Commissioning Ceremony for uss gerald ford. Now we need congress to do its job and pass the budget that provides for higher, stable and predictable funding levels for our military needs. That our fighting men and Women Deserve and you will get. Believe me. President trump, i will tell you. You will get it. Dont worry about it. But i dont mind getting a little hand. So call that congressman and call that senator and make sure you get it. By the way, you can also call those senators to make sure you get health care. Let me ask you, you have to
start. This it is stuff. Full material for this guy. Two full terms or not a full term . Give me your predictions. Full term . Two full terms or not a full term . I will say a full term. I will say that we have not seen the end of trump unleashed with. Anthony scaramucci already signaling that he will let trump be trump. Let me go to john here. Two terms. Ive given up on guessing what the american electorate will do. But let me say this. Full term hes still full term. I need to see turning point. The roundtable is sticking with us. Well be right back with hardball. Your next getaway . Connecting with family and friends . A Big Night Out . Or maybe your everyday shopping. Whatever it is, aarp Member Advantages can help save you time and money along the way. So when you get there, you can enjoy it all the more. For less. Surround yourself with savings at aarpadvantages. Com rays always been different. Last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. At t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. Remote Moisture Sensors use a Reliable Network to tell them when and where to water. So that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. China. Oh. He got there. Thats the power of and. Heres some positive news from africa on aids. A massive drop in the rate of new hiv aids infections. In 2011, swasy land had the highest rate of infection in the world. Nearly one in three people were said be to living with hiv. But five years later the rate of new infection was cut nearly in half and thats because of testing and virus suppressing
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28 republicans who are you betting on the democrats to win the house back . All these tough questions. I think theyre in a good position. What do you think . Sure. Why not. I would 24. Ill give my answer. The economy stays the way it is. I think the republican theres hold. If it doesnt, look out. I think they lose. It is all about the economy. Look at the top issue. Politics 101. Well said. When we return, let me finish with trump watch. He wont like it. If youve got a life, you gotta swiffer
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