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Fans in the republican establishment are taking the news today that ryan until tomorrow, same time, same channel. Thanks for watching. Hardball with Chris Matthews is next. A new york state of mind. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in new york. Let me start with the democratic battle in new york between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, the one were billing the battle for broadway. Clinton is looking at a big win in her adopted state here, which she represented for eight years as a u. S. Senator, a skunking of bernie would make her path to the convention. The politics, upset in new york, would rise giant doubts, enough to keep the brawl alive until philly. Sanders said that he will win a major victory here in the state. We will win a major victory here in new york next tuesday. We win when the voter turnout is high. We lose when the voter turnout is low. Let us have the highest voter turnout in democratic primary history in new york. He is something. Any way, while polls show Hillary Clinton with a double digit lead here in the state, she is intensifying her attacks on sanders. With just a week to go, taking nothing for granted. Im joined by joy reed, tad devine, the senior advisor. Are you older than him, to the Sanders Campaign, and msnbc, howard dean, and a big Hillary Clinton supporter. Any way, im a going to ask about the prediction. I love his optimism. He set the bar. Shes double digits. He said he is going to win here. Right. I think he said he was going to win every state weve been insofar. Youre taking the edge off. This is her home state. She is ahead. Independents cant vote in the primary here. There is a lot of factors. What did he mean hell win here . He believes, and agree with him, if we can mobilize an electorate, particularly a young electorate, we have a shot of winning. Have you been able to do that before, increase the turnout . Fair enough, the political revolution, but the overall turnout has not gone up. Chris, it was 18 , 65 plus. The turnout has not gone up. It went up nor 18 to 29 year olds. Okay, okay, is that a conditional claim by him . Well, no. He said hell win new york is turnout is beyond normal expectations. Ill tell you one thing bernie doesnt do. Spin. Youre the spinner. He made a clear statement. Speaking on gun violence yesterday, Hillary Clinton called out Bernie Sanders on his record for gun control, the firearms used in Violent Crimes in new york. Thats a strong charge, saying thats where the arsenal is for the killing in the streets of new york. Lets look at what she said. When challenged on his gun stances, he frequently says, well, you know, i represent vermont. Its a small, rural state. We have no gun laws. Here is what i want you to know. Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in new york come from out of state. And the state that has the eyest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in new york come from vermont. Well, the Sanders Campaign release aid statement that turned hillarys words against the governor, who is backing Hillary Clinton. Quote, i dont know why secretary clinton would be so critical of the governor of vermont who strongly supports her candidacy. What governor shumlin said is true. In the campaign season, therefore, things are said by all the candidates that arent entirely accurate. I would just say this. I think youve had a hard time convincing vermonters that new york crime problems are coming from ver monmont. Any way, a fact checker says the small population skews the numbers that clinton is using there. We do not find it as a Fair Assessment into new york. The difference between this point using per capita calculations and the raw number is so stark that it creates a significantly misleading impression to the public. Tad, do you want to back that up. You Better Believe it. Listen, over 4,500 guns in that reference that she made. 5 55 of them came from vermont. Used in Violent Crimes. Most of them were the crime was possession of a firearm, okay. We cant tell whether any was used in a murder. Its terribly misleading. If youve got a candidate whose problem is problem is cre credibility governor dean, did you feel you were the arsenal of criminology or crime in new york city . Did you feel that your state was feeding guns down across the northern border. Well, they do, actually. We do. Except that its misleading in the sense that while we are the highest per capita exporter of guns, thats because vermont is so small, but bernies real problems is the ability to sue gun companies. What he needs to apologize for that, hillary had to apologize for iraq. If i were bern feeies campaign would stop talking about guns. That does not help bernie in new england and northeastern primaries. Question to both of you. Is vermont significantly responsible for the crime rate in new york city . No, not at all. Governor howard dean, is vermont significantly responsible for the crime in new york used by guns with the use of guns. It is not the largest export exporter, but there are a significant amount of guns bought in new york. There is a lot more guns have virginia, for example, that are illegally purchased that end up in new york. But again, i dont think this is an article about semantii seman. Here is the other problem. I got eight endorsements in a row from the nra. I got off the nra after newtown, after the speech this is all fine and good, were not going give up our right to bear arms. I concluded the National Rifle association did not represent thoughtful gun owners, and theyve become a right wing extremist group. Thats when i left the nra. If youre going to run for national office, you probably have to do that. Catholic guilt, jewish guilt, my friends tell me about, this s this vermont guilt were being accused of here. Thats going to be a har tash. Hashtags. Has hillary overstepped here, your objective, yes or no. Somebody is hashtaging vermont guilt right this instant. The dangers of talking around an attack, right. Help me out here. Is she overstating the charge. Overcharging ver month as the source of the gun battles, crimes down in new york. Very healthy compared to what it was 20, 30 years ago. Sure. But to an extent, to what extent is vermont and its gun, lacks gun laws responsible for the new york city violence. Very little. There arent enough humans, if they all started exporting. 50 guns, right. There arent a lot of people there. She is overstating it. Is this where the campaign is headed . Is that an attempt for hillary, to find someplace that she could be the left of him, so she doesnt have to attack him for being too left, which well get to in the polls. Thats not healthy for her in the long run. Its not attacking from the left. What youre seeing that theyve tied themselves in. The Clinton Campaign at large does not want to directly personally attack Bernie Sanders. Right. Not on the philosophy. Not on the philosophy, because of the risk of alienating the young voters that your campaign is doing such a great job at. Even on issues where she has some advantage, and even tad would a admit that on the issue for gunm manufactures, he think they dont want to go at him directly and personally, because the blow back against Hillary Clinton is so severe, that theyre trying to find ways to dance around and still attack him in these sort of side glancing ways. That doesnt work in politics. If youre going to attack Bernie Sanders on his policies on guns, you have to do it. Go back to governor dean. Governor dean, Bernie Sanders has used the phrase pack with the devil, sold her soul. That was weaver. Her chief Campaign Manager. Is that what you have to do in vermont . The way bernie sold this, you cant blame me no, i dont know if bernie really said that, i dont think he is that kind of politician. Here is the deal. In vermont, most nra members, they dont think you need a bazooka to kill a deer. The local people get us. We understand hunting. Its true. We dont have any gun laws. When you get to national politics, the gun lobby is a group of lunatics. Its outrageous. Whats the biggest mammal youve ever killed. I dont know. Probably a duck or something. I dont know. Thats a great answer. The latest m marist poll, the primary voters find that some sanders supporters will not elect Hillary Clinton. 30 who support sanders will not support clinton in november if she is the democratic nominee. While 15 of those who support clinton now said they will not support sanders in november if he is the nominee. 30 is fairly high. A lot of pumas in the last election coming over. Tad. Will your people make an adjustment . I dont think it will come to that. I think were going to win. I dont think 2016 is any where near where 2008 was. In terms of vitreal. We cant afford to have trump or cruz. You just take the clinch. Tad, ive got to tell you this, i was talking to voters all day in the bronx. There is a different level of distaste for Hillary Clinton among Bernie Sanders supporters. A sanders supporter said theyll vote for had i willry in the primary. He didnt think sanders would win. I only found one person of each that wouldnt vote for the other. Most people we talked to said were fine. Would they go to trump . No oh. Except the bernie people. I did find people that did like trump, if theyre democrats, they would vote for bernie. A risk to the vitreal in new york . Im certainly planning on bernie if hillary doesnt win. Obviously hillary will win. The two of them are so different and much better than anybody on the other side. Second of all, i would argue that for both of these candidates, these are great numbers. Right now, were at the most bitter part of the campaign or close to it. Were getting close to the end. Everybody is exhausted, competitive. I had to really work hard to get my people to support kerry. It took a month after i dropped out. So i actually did you vote for kerry . Of course i voted for kerry. I asked all my supporters to vote for kerry, too. I waited for a month so they could calm down after all that. How hard is to vote for its easier for the candidate than it is for the supporters. Wow. Last word, tad. Dean being endorsed by the nra, he has a d minus lifetime rate sgrg is th rating . He may not have been endorsed. He was. He was initially. In 1990, after they defeated him in 88. Then he changed his positions. He was still against the assault weapon ban and his republican opponent lied about it. Thank you. I dont get it up there. Its beautiful. I love burlington, by the way. Howard, governor dean, i love your honesty. Joy reed. Weve got a special guest on thursday. Im going to host a town hall on long island, pronounce it any way you want, for ohio governor, jericho, new york. Were going to be with him for an hour. 7 00 eastern time. Ask these people for hillary or bernie, if its kasich on the other side. Some of them might jump the fence. Another big one at 8 00 p. M. , texas senator ted cruz up in buffalo. I dont envy him. That will be buffalo meets cruz. It is a big night for politics on msnbc. Coming up, donald trump versus the rnc, republican frontrunner claiming the Voting System is rigged. And now reice priebus is coming out to defend the rules. Paul ryan comes out to say he is not the partys white knight, telling supporters count me out. Well see. Also, john kasich stands alone. He says he is running against the darkness. Im going to speak to supporters. Mond montell williams, having a chance in cleveland. 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It sounds like he is not going to follow those guys. Frontrunner called it corrupt and a scam. Republican system is absolutely rigged. Its a phony deal. These are dirty striction e trick administers. T tricksters. They should be ashamed of themselves. The rules are no good when they dont count their vote. What they dont like in colorado, the rules are no good, when you have to play dirty tricks in order to pick up delegates. The party is playing dirty. We have to show our republican party, youve been disenfranchised, everybody has. Youve got to show the Republican Party that they cant get away with this stuff any longer. Interesting tactic, he is basically saying if he doesnt get the nomination, its dishty. Earlier, Reince Priebus tweeted rules were set last year, nothing mysterious, nothing new. The rules have not changed. Theyre not changed. Joining me now, the man who used to have that job, michael steel, and robert costa, National Political reporter for the Washington Post. Gentlemen, the news is out tonight that the daily news is endorsing Hillary Clinton. Its going to happen, the front cover in a minute. But michael, lets get to this point. Trump has a pretty good argument, popular vote should decide the nominee. The guy who gets the person who gets the most votes should be the nominee. The Counter Point by the inside guys is well, we have rules that allow people to get picked by conventions and caucuses and they can also be picked who are not bound to anybody. They could make up their own mind. Sure. Democracy is a pretty good sell in this country. It is a very good sell. Its a very good argument for trump to make. Its a very difficult argument for the establishment types, the chairman and others to defend, because i mean, people think, i went to the polls. I voted. I stood in line in the primary. I sat in a room for three hours at a caucus, and i voted. What do you mean you now can you can dilute, you know, on a best case scenario, dilute my vote and in the case of colorado, no the even include me in the process of voting. What do you mean by that . So trump has got a good argument. But the rules are the rules. Theyve been i know. As the chairman said. Here is the problem. We know the rules can be changed. Thats what a lot of people also know and realize, as they saw in 2012, what happened to ron paul, when they changed the rules there to prevent him from getting nominated from the floor. So there is no confidence in the system when they have already seen actions taken by those to block out people they dont like or dont want to get the nomination. Well, guys, two big things happened today, despite the fact that daily news is endorsing hillary. Ryan wanted to put to rest onc and for all that he would emerge as the nominee for president. Let me be clear. I do not want, nor will i accept the nomination for our party. So let me speak directly to the delegates on this. If no candidate has a majority in the first ballot, i believe that you should only choose from a person who has actually participated in the primary. Count me out. The rules committee, which is assembled by the delegates will decide what the rules are. I would encourage those delegates to put in place a rule that says you can only nominate somebody who actually ran for the job. You know, i think a couple of things came from that. Check me on this, guys. Starting with robert. If he really took himself out and i think he did just then, that reduces the numbers of possible candidates multiple choice to three. The three that are still running. I dont think he meant jim gilmore, somebody that dropped out six months ago. He means the active candidates, i believe. So if its just three of them, that makes the case for trump. The only argument that puts somebody else in there besides trump would be somebody who didnt compete but offers real party unity, somebody who could come aboard like a ryan and truly unite the party under a whole new dispensation if you will. Something new, a different way of looking at it. You couldnt decide among the candidates running. It seems to me it makes trumps situation much easier to argue. Your thoughts, robert . People dont like to call this a brokered convention. Contested convention, but ryan did not rule out someone like scott walker, marco rubio trying to broker at a convention. You mean to win . To win . Walker be the nominee . He got blown out in the contest. He was rejected. Agreed. He left early. Its more someone like rubio, who has accumulated delegates, who could be a player. Not so much about rising, but shaping the out come of the contest and what happens on a second ballot. Look, i saw the article the other day, nothing wrong with this, back in no staff around, coming up from florida to go vote in the senate. Rubio is out of the game right now. He is not going to be in cleveland with a big gang of delegate grabbers. You have to are a campaign to run, dont you . Michael, you tell me. Dont you have to have i campaign, active campaign to win the nomination, even at the convention . I think absolutely right about that. You cannot walk into the convention, even if off he got 150 delegates like marco rubio and think youre going to compete with someone like ted cruz who is the master of organization or donald trump, who is sitting probably 60, 70 delegates away from the nominating number. So youre right. Youve got to put together the campaign. A lot of people thought, chris, thats what ryan was doing when he said a couple of days ago about having this parallel message to the convention and all of that. Now, having taken himself out of it, i think youre more correct than not, that he is saying to the delegates, youre only going to deal with the three people who walk into that convention, who are run the complete race. Lets take a look at what donald trump said about Hillary Clinton. In the same way that the democrats, hillary and sanders are saying, you think were bad. Look, the real challenge is to take on the other party. So different than us. Any way, donald trump slammed Hillary Clinton in the same way, the other side, saying, catch this, her whole life, her life, has been a lie. Lets listen to this. I dont think the emails will take her down, because she is being protected by the democrats. It would take anybody else down, but its not going to take her down, because she is being protected by the democrats, which is a disgrace. But she is going to have to live with that when she runs, because Everybody Knows that she is guilty as hell, okay. Everybody. Her whole life has been a big fat beautiful lie. Its been a terrible, terrible lie. Everything about her is a lie. You know, this is the kind of stuff that goes on, michael and robert, in developing countries, where zimbabwe, the election is rigged, if i lose, its rigged. If i win, i put the other person in jail. Bhuto gets hanged. Third world countries need a break. We dont need this crap. He says hillarys whole life is a life. What did he mean by that . Michael . You know, chris, i have to say, its early branding. It is. I was talking with someone. This is trade craft . I was talking about negative ads in the general campaign and my response was, donald trump will not have to run negative tv ads. That is an that branding, right there, will catch on and just like we saw with little marco and lyin ted, et cetera, he has an ability to brand his opponent without having to go through the traditional modes an means to do that, running 30 seconds ads, talking on his behalf. In that sound bite, youre beginning to see the difficulty that i think Hillary Clinton is going to have in a Fall Campaign against the donald trump. Because what is she going to do . Spending a lot of time defending against that, as much as she is trying to go on the attack against him. Robert, quickly, its a closle attack oh to say a person is working a documentary well have this weekend. There is a lot about her life that is consistent. She is a methodist, his behavior, we know what it is. She is consistently loyal. She is a democratic without hyphenated democratic. She is pretty traditionally a moderate democratic. Her life makes sense to me. I dont understand the lie thing. Trumps ability to politically blugen, if it continues at this kind of pace, and at this kind of rhetoric, it could have consequences down the ballot and create a tenor and tone for the campaign that at first, gets everyone excited on the republican and then becomes drastically divisive day after day. Its one thing Bernie Sanders Campaign Manager says she sold her soul to the devil. This is frightening. Up next, john kasich says he is up against he is doing it again. The darkness of his rivals, trump and cruz. Kasich supporter Montel Williams coming here with a case for the ohio governor, the third man. This is hardball, the place for politics. Ooh. Psst. Hey. Where you going . Weve got that thing you know. Diarrhea . Abdominal pain . But we said wed be there. Woap, who makes the decisions around here . Its me. Dont think ill make it. Stomach again. Send if youre living with frequent, unpredictable diarrhea and abdominal pain, you may have Irritable Bowel Syndrome with diarrhea or ibsd a condition that can be really frustrating. Talk to your doctor about new viberzi. A different way to treat ibsd. Viberzi is a Prescription Medication you take every day that helps proactively manage both diarrhea and abdominal pain at the same time. So you stay ahead of your symptoms. 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Divides people. This path solves nothing. It demeans our history, weakens our country and cheapens each one of us. It has but one beneficiary. That is to the politician who speaks of it. Thats john kasich. Welcome back to hardball. That was Governor John Kasich today, warning the Republican Party faces. He cautioned voters about a path to darkness. He never mentioned his rivals by name, they were clearly the focus of what he said. Criticizesed proposals for immigration, monitor neighbors to deport 11 people people and ripping up trade agreements and laws here at home. Kasich called out the gloomy and angry rhetoric used by trump. We have been told that because of all this change, america has become dark. That we have sucombed and no longer in charge. Were even told that foreign governments are actually controlling our destiny. Because they have become smarter than us, and tougher than us. Some who feed off of the fears and the anger that is felt by some of us, and exploited, feed their own desires for fame or attention. That could drive america down into a ditch and not make us great again. Well, on thursday, john kasich will be my guest at a special town hall on long island, new york. Thats coming up two days from now. Joining me tonight, a kasich supporter, Montel Williams. Thank you for joining me. I have a speech in dallas. I would be there with you on thursday, because i think its that important. Yes, sir. Lets talk about this guy. Its late in the race. Its the last month or two. He is talking about the high road. Trump talks nationalism. He doesnt talk the values of this country. He doesnt talk about the values of bring me your tired, your wounded, your sick, none of that, you know. He doesnt talk about freedom of speech or freedom ofreligion. He talks about tough nationalism. That sounds good to a lot of working guys. Ive been shoved around a lot. Trump comes along and says this country has been shoved around. Its not your fault. It sells. How about all the same people that feel theyve been shoved around, their children go to school, one nation under god, in difficu indivisibl, we have two candidates that are running in the Republican Party. That literally almost said in its he essence, republican partf lincoln is not the party of divisiveness. We have two people running for office and donald trump being the lead one. Trying to divide america, thinking that this will make America Great again. Remember, the only person in this entire race, im been saying this for seven months, the adult has been john kasich. He is the only person looking ahead to america, after november 2nd. After the vote. When we all have to remember okay, youre here. How does he get to be president . He gets to be president , because like we all know, there is going to be a contested convention. There is not going to be a 1,237 for anybody. Therefore, when we get there, go back to 1924, the democrats did 103 rounds of voting before they picked a candidate. There could they picked a loser, though. Well, lets think in terms of lincoln. Lincoln was picked on the third round. Very easily, and im not trying to suggest to governor kasich that he prematurely select his running mate, but ill tell you right now, you throw john kasich and marco rubio, all bets are off. I dont care what any pundit has to say. He has the best chance of beating Hillary Clinton. Kasich said he would not accept the role of running mate. Lets watch that. Donald trump says he would consider picking you as his vicepresident den shall candidate. Would you run with him. Zero chance. What if thats the best chance for the party. Zero chance. Im running for president of the united states, and thats it. Do you think thats it. I think thats a fact. Why would he turn down the chance because of trump . Trump is a crap shoot. Anybody can win a general election, depending oh be what happens to hillary. Hillary is the favorite, unless something happens with the emails. The position of the vicepresident s weve had the last three or four. Why would you second fiddle who is opposed to everything you stand for. Was chaney second fiddle . Well, i think he was calling the shots. Thats a terrible example, but i think he was. John kasich stands for america that is united. Im so glad you came on. Im so glad people make this case. There has got to be there has to be a counter part to what trump is selling. If they go up online today, listen to john kasichs speech this morning, i think most people would understand that weve got the person that i always say this about kasich. He is who he is. Yes, sir. No fraud. Ive watched that guy for 40 years. Thats the guy ive known for 40 years. Up next, weve got a new york round table coming here tonight, the candidates focus on the primary one week out now. 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Trump is reyou nates with the president corps he knows best, a culture that spawned and nurtured the personality known now known worldwide. Any way, asked for comment, Trumps Campaign told the times that the tabloids never stop. One thing i will say with great certainty, they are far more honorable than the political press. Well see what that means. Aside from their sensational headlines, which have been many, the headlines have had a big influence on 2016. A recent example was Bernie Sanders interview with the New York Daily News, which the Washington Post said was pretty close to a disaster. That sounds like larry david. Any ways, they made a splash with this cover, late today, the daily news, as i said, look at that, why we choose hil, with one l, over bernie, saying quote, clintons proposals are shaped for the world in which we live, not the world in which we might wish to live. I guess theyre knocking bernies socialism. Im joined by tina brown, tina brown live media. Harold ford, former democratic congressman from tennessee, and kate brow wer, white house correspondent, out with yet another great new book, first women, the grace and power of americas first ladies, which everybody will read. Let me ask you about the power of the tabs. Even sophisticated like yourself, Walter Shapiro said you cant just start with the times in the morning. Its too much. Congested with ideas. Youve got to start with the post. You get your revving up and then a lot of Smart Business people, business women and cultural leaders read the daily news and the post. Absolutely. I do. I read the why would you read something that is dlclearly not true. I just pick them up and i think but its not reliable. It doesnt matter. Its part of coffee. What do you think if the post, the New York Post, do you think thats murdock talking, or who do you think is talk sng. Its all part of the cartoon of being in new york city. Its part of the rough and tumble. The brashness. You dont absorb it and really take it into account seriously but for the 20 seconds when youre reading the story, its what you need to wake you up. The post likes trump, the daily news is democratic, endorsing hillary today, tomorrow morning. Theyve taken sides. Like the old days of journ ar j. Theyve taken them on numerous times, but what really hurt cruz is when he challenge dollars and attacked new york values. If there is anything in the morning, it wants to be the morning snapshot of new york values. You pick that up and i would agree with tinas assessment, you have to creed read it with where ever you live in the city, at that moment, thats the theme, the quote of the day. And donald trump has realized, he caught it at the right time. Cruz has made terrible comments about the city. He has the post. He has the mood of the city on his side. The daily news its almost like the guys, you know, go home. The headlines seem like theyre leading the cheers of the people walking by. Everybody walks to work eventually when you get to the city, train, whenever you get here, you have to walk up and down the street. You still have the new york k ios9 k. Will you get a call from zuckerman for that . All that stuff goes on here. The New York Post reported in a school from kate browers book, Michelle Obama hoped vicepresident joe biden with launch a white house bid against Hillary Clinton. Here is the quote from the first women, the name of the book, just out. The 2008 president ial campaign left deep and lasting scars on both the clinton and obama camp. One obama aide said michelle would have liked to see joe biden run against Hillary Clinton for the nomination. In response, officials for the first ladys office have said those assertions are false. Of course, thats what she would say. I mean, i think that just look at what happened in 2008. You got the scoop. Yeah, absolutely. There are, the obamas see the clintons as this political dynasty that came before them. I was told Michelle Obama looks down her nose at Hillary Clinton. I understand they dont want to be the clinton sandwich. I know that. Yeah, yeah. But they need, dont they need Hillary Clinton to carry on the legacy . Yeah, probably, yes. But they would have been happy if he had oh, if he had won. The obamas and bidens are very close. She was happy for is that a jill and michelle collection. Do you think michelle is voting for joe. I take the first lady at her word and i take her at her word. To your point, the president wants to see the legacy continue. I think if you would ask someone a year ago what mrs. Clinton, the core of the campaign right now be defending the obama legacy as aggressively and as n unapologetic as she is, thats probably not going to be the case in may. Good for her. Good for this president. Hopefully good for his legacy. Thats a great picture of michelle. No love lost between the clintons and obamas, really. 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