are not smart, perhaps they're in incompetent, perhaps they have a bad agenda, which i actually don't believe. i think they're just not very good at what they do. i think they're incompetent. and he said i'm a whiner, i'm a complainer. i am. i said i complain and i complain and whine until i win. and i will win for the american people. we'll have great trade deals, we'll have a strong military. we'll take care of our vets. we'll get rid of obamacare and come up with something that will be spectacular. look what's happening with the premiums on obamacare? they're going through -- look at what's going on with the premiums. they're going through the roof, up 40%, 45%, 50%. we'll make our country great again. all right, maybe one more question. i'll give you two more. say it again. [ inaudible ] >> jeb bush is a low energy person. for him to get things done is hard. he's very low energy. go ahead. [ inaudible ] >> you know what we spend on illegal immigration right now? we're spending $130 billion a year. so if we can spend a similar amount and not have the problem, it would be phenomenal. that's a good deal. it's a one-year payback. not that i'm looking at that. but we do need it. hey, we are losing as a country on a yearly basis. billions and billions, beyond anybody -- they can't even believe it. you look at our trade deals. you look at what we're talking about illegal immigration. we have to straighten things out. and we will. but you know, a lot of people are saying that, the plan, building the wall is something that has to happen. it's not expensive. it won't be expensive. the reason it looks expensive is because you have people working on it that don't know what they're doing. it's not expensive. and that wall will save us. but the one thing i have to get, before we leave, i want people to come into the country. i want them to come in legally. and i want really talented people also to come into the -- great workers, great talent. i want a lot of people to come into the country. but they have to come in legally. [ inaudible question ] >> i love that question. what a good guy. who are you? this is a great guy. why can't you ask me a question like that? it's very interesting. north carolina just came out, a poll just came out, public policy polling. and i'm leading in north carolina by a lot. and i'm leading against hillary clinton by a lot. a very important place, important state and a great state. a lot of things, and they went over the numbers, and so did many of the other polling companies. and i draw from democrats, and i draw from conservatives, and tea party. i draw from everybody. and people are a little surprised. straight across the board. but we draw more than anybody else from the democrats, and that's good. we're going to have to do that if we're going to win. one question. you look so nice. >> what about the voters who love you and don't vote for you? >> i don't have too many of them. you know what, that's changing. excuse me, say it legitimately. how much has that changed in the last three or four weeks? and in new hampshire, it's so positive. and by the way, in iowa, it's so positive, because they've gotten to know me. i've been here a lot and i've been to iowa a lot and south carolina a lot where we have incredible numbers. in the places where i go, my favorability is through the roof, including new hampshire. okay, i'm going to have to go. all right, one from you, but it's always a negative question. go ahead. can you ask a positive question? let's see if it's possible. what? [ inaudible question ] >> if necessary, i would do that, yes. we have to stop -- i didn't want to do iraq. it was a big mistake. it should never have happened. the way we got out was also a big mistake. we cannot let isis continue to do what they're doing. so if necessary, the answer is, yes. okay? thank you, everybody. >> good evening. donald trump has wrapped up his event with reporters and is about to hold a town hall event with new hampshire voters. we'll bring you that live when it begins. joining me now, robert costa with "the washington post." howard fineman from the huffington post, thank you all. i have a lot of clips to bring back. good to have you here. let's go with the straight journalist in the beginning. robert costa, why can't hillary clinton run a press conference like that? the way he instructs people how to ask questions, it's like they're trained seals out there. hillary clinton is overrun by them. who is right and who is wrong in running a press conference? >> it's a huge contrast -- >> and is that the right way? >> he gets away with it because he has a comfort on the stage, at the podium. he's been in front of cameras for 25, 30 years. >> when he tells people to shut up, they shut up. if hillary clinton said, shut up, ed, would he? >> totally different politicians. >> you're defining the obvious. howard, you're the pro here. how does he get away, he's like a lion tamer with a chair, whipping them into action. >> because he knows that everybody out there is hanging on his every word. he has the confidence in that, of a master salesman. this is a guy who's built his career in new york, which is the toughest media market. >> minute by minute. >> and minute by minute, when you're arguing to build a building, it's a constant campaign. he's run a million campaigns to build buildings in new york, las vegas and elsewhere. he's a master salesman. and more than that, he speaks the language of the american people. i've spent a lot of time in new hampshire, those words about immigration, about isis, about james foley who is from new hampshire -- >> i'm with him. >> that's straight out of the mouth of your average male new hampshirite, females too, who are going to be. >> -- who are going to be assertive about what the lost great america. >> a couple of things that seemed like nuance. he talks american english. he says chokes. he said jeb is choking. he talks about his -- he said mitt romney choked. these other candidates wouldn't even say the word choke and yet that's the way we talk. your thoughts? i know it's not as important as policy questions, but there's something in the style, that hillary ought to learn from the style. >> it's all style. he's fun to watch. he's very loose, he revels in the attention. and frankly, he's got nothing to lose. donald trump, again, in my opinion, is not really running for president. i don't think he really wants to be president. >> what's he doing? >> he's running for the attention. >> how does he get off the stage? >> i think he runs as an independent eventually if he likes this well enough. he runs as an independent. and think of the possibilities there, with donald trump running as an independent. >> if he loses that gets ten points and brings down the republicans, they'll hate him for it, like democrats are angry at ralph nader still. >> but he doesn't care. he doesn't care. what does donald trump care whether the republicans are mad at him? >> the brand, the brand. >> i think he cares very much. >> your thoughts? >> he cares. you asked a question, chris, hi, that how is hillary clinton and donald trump different, and what can she learn from him? number one, he really enjoys being up there. he enjoys engaging the press. hillary clinton had a press conference yesterday, looked like she was going in for a root canal. arguing with them, seemed indifferent, a little bit arrogant, sarcastic. and i see trump at that podium as a man with confidence. mrs. clinton used to have -- secretary clinton had a great deal of confidence when he was up at a podium. lately she's reading remarks from a binder and she's joyless. >> just kept asking the same question. but it's a good point. just moments ago, donald trump continued his aggressive push against anchor babies as he called them. here he is right now. >> it's a very big question as to the anchor babies. they've been talking about it for years, as to whether the 14th amendment covers this. we'll find out whether or not it does. changing the 14th amendment would take years and years, a long drawn-out process. a lot of people think that it's absolutely in terms of anchor babies, that it is not covered. so we'll find out. many of the great scholars say that anchor babies are not covered. we're going to find out. >> it's a crude term, not very humane, but it's a term for women who come to america, manage to get across the border illegally, have a baby, that babies is an american citizen and that's the law of the land. and everybody's accepted it until now. as for whether or not we like the practice of it, trump is exploiting it. >> and a reporter asked him about the term anchor baby, he didn't back away from it. >> what's another term? >> you could say a child of an undocumented worker. >> robert's point is that he refuses to speak in the language of political correctness. he wants to use the most -- >> looking at it the other way, undocumented worker is not a very informative term. >> he insists on saying illegal. >> i think illegal alien is really terrible. anyway, donald trump was asked if he's gotten under jeb bush's skin. here's what trump had to say. >> have i gotten under jeb bush's skin? i don't know. i will tell you this. you mentioned the word "skin." he said the other day, one of the dumber things i've heard ever in politics when talking about iraq. that we, the united states, he said, have to show them that we have skin in the game. in order to go into iraq. we've lost $2 trillion, thousands of lives, wounded warriors who i love all over the place, and he's talking about, we have to show them that we have skin in the game. between common core, his act of love on immigration, and skin in the game with iraq, that's the third one that we've now added, i don't see how he's electable. >> katie is covering this for msnbc. katie, it seems that he's made a point. there's a strategy hot off his feet, cleverness, he's going after the leader that he has to knock off in the end, it's jeb bush. and he's picking a fight with him, saying, skin in the game, questioning his nationalism, his sense of grievance about the stupid war in iraq, hitting him where he's weakest, iraq. you got a competing press conference going on right nearby here. your thoughts? the strategy of donald trump. >> well, you know this, you punch up. and i think what the campaign sees is that jeb bush is his biggest threat, his biggest competitor in this race for the long haul. jeb bush might not be doing as well in the polls. he might not have the same energy and get the same crowds, but i think it's telling he's singling him out as much asly does. he takes every opportunity he can to spar with jeb bush. and it's usually a one-way spar, because bush is trying to avoid talking about him completely. he can't quite because reporters keep asking about him. he's tried not to mention him by name, just saying the big personalities in the room. he was forced to comment on his immigration plan on monday. and now even though bush hasn't directly commented on trump holding a rally in new hampshire at the same time as him, just a few miles away, he's getting all the attention. this is going to be in the news for the next few days. this is the headline, trump and bush have competing rallies. so trump is doing this in a calculated way to get all the attention and to take the air out of the tires of jeb bush. even though the air might not be so inflated at the moment, he's taking it for the long run, for the primaries for months from now, it's a long time. chris? >> i love your metaphors there. ron, it seems to me, that the shot at bush was right almost to his solar plex us, if not to his groin. he's unelectable. that is the one thing bush has been selling, that he's electable. it seems to me, he's very focused -- i think he's trying to win this nomination fight now. what do you think, ron? is a real thing or a reality tv show? it's beginning to look like a real thing to me. >> it can be both. he can be treating this as an opportunity to get attention, but he still likes to win. we know that about donald trump. and i think that shot at jeb really was, that was tough stuff. that may have been his best moment there at the press conference. and it does hit jeb where he lives. and the other big story, we've all been talking about donald trump -- >> he lives in his brother's war. >> exactly. he is. and he hasn't dealt with it effectively. all this time we've been talking about donald trump as the big story, and that's legitimate enough, i suppose. the other big story that's happening at the same time, jeb bush, the establishment candidate, the guy who's been raising all the money, absolutely failing to gain traction, going down in the polls, the more people see of him, the less they think of him. this is the guy that's supposed to be the winner, and he just doesn't look like a savvy politician. he may raise a lot of money, but he doesn't have the one thing that money can't buy. and that's charisma. >> by the way, do you think phil griffin is calling me now saying, get over to that jeb press conference, you're missing the big story? what's the matter with you guys? [ laughter ] there's a reason we're moths to the flame here. but there's only one flame. i don't want to cover scott walker. there's nothing to these guys. i don't want to do huckabee, chucka bee, whatever his name it, he's been around forever with the same old country boy sermon. it's yesterday. i don't want to hear it. this guy is thinking on his feet. he is entertaining. >> yes. >> he's entertaining. >> and just give me primetime tomorrow night. exhibition match -- just do it. [ all speak at once ] >> look at the audience. >> it's great for ratings, chris. it would be delicious. i just hope hillary can hang on long enough to be the democratic nominee. that's my hope. >> that was another knife in the back from you. that was a knife -- you just -- you don't hope for the hang on. you don't want her to hang on. >> i do! i do want her to hang on. >> you are just putting it to her. >> and here's why. i worry if she gets pushed out of the race too early, you have elizabeth warren stepping in. but let's get back to the word electable. so important to a conservative -- >> do you think elizabeth warren will come into this race eventually? >> if hillary is truly damaged and if she exits on her own, yes. >> okay, thank you for the -- >> why not? >> there's a lot of ifs there. when hillary clinton quits this election, we'll shut down the show. we're waiting now for donald trump to hold his first town hall meeting as a presidential candidate. he's up in derry, new hampshire. we'll bring you that when it happens. and this town meeting is going to be so exciting. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >> we're waiting for donald trump's first town hall as a presidential candidate. got a pretty good warm-up there. he's in derry, new hampshire, just a few miles from where jeb bush is holding his own town hall. back with "hardball" after this. we are waiting for that donald trump town hall meeting which is about to begin. the pregame was pretty good to start with. just a few minutes ago, trump told reporters that the only constant in the race for president is him. let's watch him. >> the only thing constant is trump. all of them change on the bottom. they're going up and down like yo-yos. but i've been up there are if a long time, and i hope rime going to be up there for a long time. i read a lot of phony reports in the papers, oh, well, when donald trump gets tired of doing this, he's doing great, leading all the polls, but at some point, he'll -- >> i'm not going anywhere folks. i'm not doing this for my health. i'm doing this to make america great again. >> we're back with nbc's katie up at the event. robert costa is here with me. howard fineman with the huffington post. and msnbc contributor ron reagan. let me go back to ron. i know you have big thoughts because of your preinterview today about this motion that he's been pushing that he's a reaganite. what do you make of that as an expert? >> everybody who runs as a republican wants to be running in the foot steps of my father and they mostly say that. they all say that, i think, at one time or other. i can't think of a human being on either that's farther from my father than donald trump. i have to say it. if my father were here, he'd be amused by donald trump. if he were running against donald trump, i think he would swat him aside like a fly. that's another thing that's incredible watching this. donald trump, forget about his policies such as they are, because they really don't exist. they're just sort of notions. but look at how he's moving the republican field. look at how these guys are kowtowing to donald trump. these are people that want to be the commander in chief, the leader of the free world, who want to go toe to toe with vladimir putin, and they can't deal with donald trump, for god sakes. >> that's a brave thought. these guys thought about running for president before they announced. been in the race for months. they thought about the constitution of the united states, probably. and they probably understand the 14th amendment. if you're born here, you're one of us. okay, however it happened, you are. all of a sudden donald trump says that's not the way it's going to be. it's not even the way i read the constitution. i'm starting to talk like him with the hands. and all of them said, you're right. my reading of the u.s. constitution is your reading. it's unbelievable how quick they're moving. that's the definition of a leader, whether you like him or not. >> he's got his foot on their necks in iowa. if you're on the hard right, you're getting no attention. you're under pressure from donors to move. you're taking cues from trump. look at rick perry. he's running out of money. can't even pay his staff. >> let's show you this from movie dr. strange love. remember slim pickings, who gets on the atom bomb and they yell with the cowboy hat, yahoo. let's watch that clip. because this is the way these guys like huckabee and the rest of them have been behaving. here it is. let's watch it. >> yahoo! woo hoo! >> jumping on the bomb. why are they jumping on this bomb? acting like slim pickings riding an atom bomb to the destruction of their party. i'm not hispanic, but i can tell you, they're paying attention to this guy, because he's talking about them and saying go home, if it's your grandkid, uncle, aunt, cousins, get them out of here. it's pretty gross and yet he's doing it to the republican party. >> indeed he is. and the republicans are doing it to themselves. kiss off the hispanic vote which is now about 11% of the electorate. that's no small chunk. >> maybe 13. and it's growing. >> the republicans are essentially writing off once again -- remember last electoral cycle when they all sat around talking about how they had to have outreach to the hispanic community, and now they've got a guy, a standard bearer in donald trump who thinks they're all rapists? really? >> kelly, you're the expert on polling. are they not trading general election votes for hispanics they have a chance to get still if they run an hispanic guy, cruz or rubio, or the guy who's married to a mexican, that's jeb. aren't they traded away those november next-year votes to get early-contest votes? isn't that the trade-up they're making to their infamy perhaps? >> the they, i don't know who the they is. >> donald trump. here it is. as goes trump, so goes the republicans. no. here they are. show you how many of them are joining on this anti-hispanic number. in response to trump's comments about restricting birth right citizenship. on monday, bobby jindal agreed with him. he wasn't the only one. let's watch. >> do you think that birth right citizenship should be ended? >> absolutely going forward. >> we should end birth right citizenship? >> yes, to me, it's about enforcing the law in this one country. >> it doesn't make any sense to me that people can come in here and have a baby and that baby becomes an american citizen and allows them to come in. doesn't make any sense at all. >> for people coming for that purpose, for example, in california, it's grown into an city. >> if you have an open border, you can't have birth right citizenship. i have sponsored legislation in the past to end birth right citizenship. >> we should end granting automatic birth right citizenship to the children of those who are here illegally. >> doesn't that hurt your matter in the general? >> no. what they're talking about is not abusing something. however, this is an important issue to hispanics. however, it's just like saying all women care about is abortion and contraception. we can think above the waist also. we don't just care about abortion and contraception. it's important to women. it's not women's health. that's breast cancer and cardiovascular disease and the rest of it. for hispanics, it's important. but so are some of the issues that hillary clinton is running away from. >> if you're hispanic, you do think about the border, the way you're talked about on television. >> if you listen carefully to donald trump, he's sliding a little bit here on where he started out. he started out calling them, you know, drug dealers and criminals and pimps and so forth. it was raw, it was all-inclusive. now he's saying, i want to get rid of the gangs in chicago. and he's saying, i want to get rid of the anchor babies. there's still 11 or 12 million people. >> the buses aren't moving. >> -- who he has said originally we have to get out. >> everybody knew where he was headed. >> that's the underlying thing here. in iowa steve king, the congressman who controls western iowa conservatives has been on this issue alone for years. >> and in new hampshire, tell me about new hampshire. >> new hampshire, spent time up there recently, talking to top figures. they are really obsessed with immigration. >> they're with him? >> they're with him on this issue, including some of the biggest media people and political people in the state. >> i think, by the way, calling them pimps, was probably an upgrade. >> howard's dead right. in new hampshire, there are immigration border hawks, they're more center right on social issues. who is center right on social issues and a hawk on the border? donald trump. >> i don't see jeb bush pulling it off. just moments ago, donald trump went after mitt romney. he used a term, the choke. he said he choked. >> he let us down. mitt romney let us down. he should have won that election. he failed. he choked. in the end, no different than a golfer that misses a putt on the 18th hole. no different than a man who strikes out a baseball player. he let us down. mitt romney should have won that election. and he didn't. something happened to him. and that's not going to happen to me. honestly, honestly, i think he choked. >> well, donald trump's beginning his town hall meeting right now, his first as a presidential candidate. let's go live to derry, new hampshire. there he is, donald trump. >> thank you, thank you. wow. you know, and i say it, the silent majority is back. we really are in a position that we haven't been in, in a long time. the people are speaking. it's an amazing thing. it's like a movement. and this is happening. so many other things on friday, i'm going to be in alabama, and there was going to be 500 people, and the room held about 1,000, and they heard that we were there. and within about two minutes, that room wasn't big enough. so they went to a room that held 2,000 people, and they heard that wasn't big enough. and now they went to the convention center, and they heard that wasn't big enough. they're going to end up being 30 to 40,000 people in alabama. [ cheers and applause ] >> and new hampshire's been so amazing. i mean, the relationship i've developed with so many people even in the room, has been -- they're incredibly people. somebody said, i left new york and they said what are they like in new hampshire? i said you know what they're like? they're hard-working people that love the country. that's what they're like. [ cheers and applause ] and you know, right down the road -- thank you. right down the road, we have jeb. very small crowd. we have 2,500. you have the best real estate, by the way. there are other rooms, the overflow rooms all over this building, they have closed circuit television. there are people outside with speakers. so i give you credit and to the other folks, i have to say, we love you equally as much, but the next time, you got to get here a little bit earlier, right? [ applause ] but, you know, i look at what's wrong with even our party and the other day, and i say it very strongly, i heard that jeb bush, that marco rubio, that governor walker -- >> who? >> that's what they're saying, who? they'll spend a huge amount of money on fighting trump. and i think that's okay. haven't you sort of heard everything already? it's like sort of getting boring. jeb has $114 million. the others have a lot. hillary has 60. i think hillary's in big trouble, by the way, folks. [ cheers and applause ] so i heard the other day that the three of them are going to spend a lot of money on negative ads about me. so, i think, you know, you can listen, listen, you're fired! but i just heard it -- i love these rowdy crowds. isn't it great? there's spirit. there's spirit! [ cheers and applause ] you know what, i tell you what, you know what's happening to jeb's crowd, as you know, right down the street. they're sleeping. they're sleeping now. but i saw that jeb made a statement and i wrote it down, because i couldn't even believe it. we're talking about iraq. okay? now, we're in for $2 trillion, thousands of lives, thousands, great people, great people, wounded warriors who are the best. [ applause ] and we love our wounded warriors. they're great warriors. and they're all over. we love them. they're all over. and jeb made the statement about the possibility of going back into iraq. he said, i give you the exact quote -- the iraqis want our help. we don't even know if there is an iraq. every time a bullet's fired, they run. they leave our humvees, they drop the equipment. you know, the enemy has our best equipment. we have the old stuff. so he said, the iraqis want our help. this is after all we've spent. they want to know that we have skin in the game. can you believe it? after years of fighting, unsuccessfully because of the way we fight, i mean, we should -- can you believe, skin in the game? i thought that was incredibly dumb. as dumb as on immigration, an act of love. it's an act of love when they come in. it's an act of love. or a belief in common core. and the reason i talk about jeb, he was supposed to do well in new hampshire. he's gone down like a rock. but how does he do well between common core, which he desperate wants? that means your children will be educated by the bureaucrats in washington. i think new hampshire wants to educate their children locally. do we agree with that? [ cheers and applause ] >> so our problem is -- what's that? [ inaudible ] >> oh, my group. these are my people. these are my people. [ cheers and applause ] i don't mind if you shout out. be careful of your language, because you're on about live seven live broadcasts tonight. but you know, the problem we have is, we don't, as a country, we don't have victories anymore. when was the last time we had a victory? we make this horrible deal with iran, which is a disgrace. and by the way, could be one of the worst deals, you know, depending on what ultimately happens -- [ applause ] -- it could go down as one of the worst deals in history. because you'll have nuclear proliferation all over the middle east and maybe beyond. you'll see things you've never seen before. you know, not only the 24-day deal, how about this, you have 24 days, but before the clock starts ticking, it's a long process before you get to day one. nobody knows that. >> bring our men home, donald. >> bring them home is right. in many ways. and i'm the first one. if you look at july of 2004, reuters is here, they're all here, they're all over the place, look at these people. they're all over the place. but if you look at reuters, july of 2004, you're going to see trump say, and by the way, before i say it, i believe more strongly in the military and military strength than anybody running by a factor of a million. [ cheers and applause ] and in the recent big cnn poll that was just out yesterday, they said, in terms of the economy and jobs, trump is like, forget, so far ahead, many, many times ahead. and i was so happy to see in terms of security and isis, i was way ahead of everybody else. because i think, you know, we all know i'm going to do a good job. i'm taking the jobs back from china, i'm taking the jobs back from japan. i'm taking the jobs back from mexico. you know who's moving to mexico? who likes oreos? does anybody like oreos? we all do, right. nabisco is leaving chicago and they're moving a big plant to mexico. i don't like oreos anymore, okay? but seriously, nabisco, there's an american company. ford. i say it all the time with ford. $2.5 billion they're spending on a car plant in mexico. how do we benefit? i went to the warton school of finance. really smart people go there, i will tell you. i'm trying to figure out, who was the person that said it's good for us to have our companies building plants in mexico, where they make cars and they sell them to us and other people, perhaps? how does that help us? and i actually gave them a great idea. you probably heard this, because i've used it a couple of times. we have the illegals drive the cars over the border, you save a fortune. is that correct? no tax, no nothing. they come in with no tax. [ applause ] >> and with me, we're not going to let our companies go. we're not going to let them go. we want cars to be made, in all fairness, in america, or even michigan. do we agree? right? that's okay. i mean, we're in new hampshire, but michigan would be fine. we're all happy with that. you'd rather have it in new hampshire, but let's let michigan have some of their factories back for the cars. but they're taking our jobs. and by the way, not just china and japan. i was in los angeles, i saw ships, the biggest ships i've ever seen, with cars. they just keep rolling off, rolling off. you know what we give japan? beef. we give them wheat. it's not quite a good deal. they're up here, we're down here. with everybody. i don't blame japan. i don't blame mexico. i don't blame china. and i say it all the time. their leaders are much smarter and sharper and more cunning. you know the word "cunning" is important. but they're more cunning than our leaders. our leaders are babies. but more than anything else, they're politicians, very good, thank you, i love that word. you know, i had to fill out a form. i was at jury duty the other day, did you see it? i was at jury duty and i enjoyed it. it was a great experience, but i had to fill out a form and they said, profession. it was a line. they said, what profession? what's your profession? and i said, i refuse to say i'm a politician. i can't say it. [ cheers and applause ] so if you people don't mind, you know what i did, i put real estate. okay? i couldn't say -- i just couldn't say, these politicians, i can't take them. i've dealt with them all my life. i've dealt with them all my life. and just remember, and it's very important, all of this money that i was talking about a little while ago, all of that money comes from my friends. guys that i know. i used to be one of them. i know the system better than anybody. all of that money that's going to hillary and jeb and scott and marco, and all of them, the people that are putting up that money are -- it's like puppets, bing, bing, you saw that. they had it on jimmy fallon, i better not do it, the bing bing, bang bang, boom. i was imitating puppets and i said maybe i shouldn't do that anymore. but it's true. they're totally controlled by special interests, lobbyists and donors. [ cheers and applause ] >> totally. and those people, i mean, actually they do like me. those people, they're friends of mine in many cases. some cases, enemies. some of them are terrible people. but i know them. i know them all. i see the hamptons and on fifth avenue and park avenue and all these great locations, they're having parties. well, when a guy gives a million dollars and much more than that, some give much more, but do you think they're talking about like nothing. they're talking turkey. they're talking lots of different things. and with me, i don't need anybody's money. i don't want anybody's money. [ cheers and applause ] now with that being said, i have to say, people are sending in money. one woman sent in $7.24. and you know what, she wrote me a two-page letter and i actually read it. you know, the guys that want to give me a million, who cares, they're not good people. eh, some of them are okay. but the woman writes me a beautiful letter, how she wants to she our country, she's 84 years old. another one sent me $17 and $22. and it's really an amazing thing. it's like it's not going to mean much in terms of dollars, but they're investing in the campaign. they're investing with their heart. they're not saying you have to give me an ambassadorship. you have to do something bad for the country. you have to let ford go into mexico. you have to approve the nabisco deal. all of this stuff, it's all deals. it's all deals. and it's not good. thank you. and it's not good. and we got to stop it. we got to stop it. so we're going to take some questions. >> bring it home! >> thank you. we're going to take some questions. so this was a town hall. they call it a town hall. i never saw a town hall with 2,500 people sitting in a theater. but we'll call it a town hall, right? [ applause ] but we are going to work really hard. you know, everybody said, he's not going to run. you remember that, right? never gonna run. then they said, eh, but he's never going to file his papers. not the financial papers. i had to sign my life away with one page. it says your signing your life away. they said, he'll never sign that. then i signed that. he announced he's running, we had the event, now he signed the paper. then they did say, he's never going to file his financial documents. because he's probably not as rich as people think, right? so then i filed 90 -- i think it's 98 or 102 pages of financials. and it was much, much bigger than anybody anticipated. actually, i wanted to file the financials. because, you know, i'm sort of a bragger. [ laughter and applause ] >> no, i actually wanted people -- yeah, i'm a private company, these people are analyzing. one of them analyzed he's only worth $3 billion. but we haven't been able to look at about 200 of his corporations. so i filed the papers and they were spectacular. and i did a great job. and the reason i tell you that is not to say, i did a great job. it's to say that we need somebody with that mentality to straighten out our country. we can't have -- [ cheers and applause ] we can't have, we just can't have these people that don't know what they're doing on all of these issues. as an example, i called carl icon. he's a great guy. some people won't like him. maybe some people don't think he's a nice person. who cares? do you want a nice person? we got plenty of nice people. we got too many nice people. but carl say great businessman. made a fortune. i said, i'd love for you to do me a favor. i want to make the country so strong financially. some people say, it sounds crass. i had one person, i said we're going to make the country rich again, and then we're going to make the country great again. the person said, mr. trump, that sounds so crass. i said what's crass? rich. i said we got to be rich to make it great. we're right now a deader nation. it will go up 21, 22, 24 is the disaster number, you know that. and we need this kind of mentality to make great deals. an example, not financial, but it's the same thinking. the iran deal we all know about it, everybody thinks it's bad. so bad. but take sergeant bergdahl. does anybody remember that name? so we get a traitor named bergdahl, a dirty, rotten traitor -- [ cheers and applause ] >> -- who by the way, when he deserted, six young beautiful people were killed trying to find him, right? and you don't even hear about it anymore. somebody said the other day, well, he had some psychological problems. you know when the old days -- bing, bong. [ laughter ] when he were strong, when we were strong. so we get bergdahl, a traitor, and they get five of the people that they most wanted anywhere in the world, five killers that are right now back on the battlefield, doing the job. that's the kind of deals we make. that's the kind of deals we make. right? am i right? six men died. probably more than that. they probably don't -- and you know the amazing thing, i said, well, you know what, you can't do those trades. those trades are no good to start off with. those trades are no good, you can't do them. but they knew, because the colonel and the general went to see the people that knew bergdahl, they knew he was a traitor before they made the deal. so i say to myself, who would make these deals? who would do it? but that's what we have running our country. we have people -- we have people that are stupid. we have people that do not have our best interest at heart. they do not have our best interest at heart. i mean, how they can allow some of these things to happen is incredible. so we'll talk about it tonight and i have a long -- you know they have a huge problem at laguardia, so i can stay with you people as long as you want. all right? okay? >> we've been watching donald trump in new hampshire. he'll be taking questions in just a moment from the audience. we'll get back to it in just a moment. right now, a quick break, and more trump when we get back. let's get back to the leader of the republican party and his town hall meeting in new hampshire. he is taking questions from reporters. >> here's my -- >> i think he does care. >> here's my concern. people say you have a bit of hubris as well. i don't think i'm speaking out of line there. >> that's okay. >> how are you going to get people who are tired of that kind of stuff to -- >> i think we're very opposite people. i think we're opposite. >> but how do you get them to vote for you knowing what that -- >> yeah. it could be that doesn't happen. hey, look. i'm putting myself out there. it takes guts to run for president. it does. >> you know, i've always heard that if you're very successful, you cannot run for political office. and especially you can't run for president. i never really got it. now i get it. i get attacked every day so viciously by the press which is largely dishonest. i have to be honest with you. largely dishonest. >> and in all fairness, i've had some incredible, i've met some really talented political reporters but there's a lot of dishonesty going on and purposely going on. but it takes courage to run for president. and i would say this. for the politician that's run, probably not so much. that's what they do. they run, they lose, they run. but for a person to come out of the private sector, especially somebody that really has had great achievement. john mclaughlin, a good guy. he said the other day, he was arguing with one of the people on the panel. he said i don't understand you. he said this is a man of great accomplishment or achievement. why do you think he shouldn't run? i saw it with some of the people when i was on the debate. the polls all that i won the debate. can you believe it? if you listen -- [ applause ] and my questions were slightly harder than everybody else's. do we agree? a little bit harder. but you know, i've seen some of the things i've seen in the political circuit. it really does take a certain amount of courage. and when i made that decision, that final decision, i'll tell you. it went right up to the wire. i just took a deep breath and said here we go. ladies and gentlemen, we'll make our country great. i'm running for president and i said, i've done it. i want to make it, i want to do something so special. and you know, as well as i've done in business and all of that, it is so much, this is so much more important, what i'm doing now. just so much more. i'm building buildings and they're wonderful and great. think of this one. i'm building one on pennsylvania avenue right next to the white house, between the white house and congress. the owed post office. okay? it's great. by the way, under budget and ahead of schedule. is that nice? right? it will open far ahead of schedule. under budget. it will be one of the great hotels of the world. i love doing that. dorall in ma'am max. that won't even matter if our country falls apart. and our country is falling apart. and i just wanted to do this. and you mentioned wall. i will build the greatest wall that you've ever seen. and i would never do this myself. but i hope it will be so -- actually, it will even look great. i already know what it should look like. you know, the other day, they were saying, i was watching these characters. politicians that are running against me. you can't get mexico to pay for the wall! of course you can. they can't because they never would even think of it. do you know how much mexico is making from the united states? that's peanuts, the wall. and then they say, you can't build a wall! it's too big, it doesn't work. well, 3,000 years ago -- right? the great wall of china was built. we would like to have that wall. that wall, nobody gets through. that i can tell you. and that's 13,000 miles. right? and that was done between -- did it take them 500 years in all fairness. a pretty long time. they don't stop. we need tough people to negotiate with the chinese. they don't stop. but the great wall of china was built. 13,000 miles. in mexico they were complaining it doesn't work. they have these walls built. they said people go over these walls with a ladder. do you know how tall the wall is? like this. it is not a wall. it is a little fence. people put up a ladder that they buy at home depot and they jump and that's the end of it. i'm talking about a wall. see that ceiling there? higher. did you ever see -- okay. did you ever see the plank for parking garages? as an example. not a big deal. i'm a great builder. what do i best in life, i build. your infrastructure is crumbling. isn't it nice to have a builder? a real builder. so you take pre cast plank. it comes 30 feet long, 40 feet long, 50 feet long. you see the highways where they can span 50, 60 feet, even longer than that, right? and do you a beautiful nice pre cast plank with beautiful everything. just perfect. i want it to be so beautiful. maybe someday they'll call at this time trump wall. maybe. so i have to make sure it's beautiful, right? i'll be very proud of that wall. if they call at this time trump wall, it has to be beautiful. and you put that plank up and you dig your footings. and you put that plank up. there's no ladder going over that. if they're having it up there, they're in trouble. there's no way to get down. maybe a rope. and then somebody said, well, they'd build tunnels. you can't build a tunnel. with x-ray equipment, you can see if they build a tunnel. you can try but if you have people -- now, we have to build a wall. we have to get the bad people out. the immigration policy, i've gotten great -- i tell you. what i've gotten tremendous applause for what we submitted yesterday on immigration. tremendous applause. and support. and you know, a lot of the illegals, if you look at chicago with the gangs, you see the gangs. and i have property in chicago. it is a great city in many ways but it is getting really hurt. you look at chicago, you look at baltimore, you look at ferguson. a lot of the gangs and the most vicious are the most illegals. first day, they're out of here. those guys are out of here. they're out of here. you know? they talk about guns. i'm a big second amendment person. i believe so strongly. big. but they talk about guns. you look at chicago. do you know that chicago has the toughest gun laws in the united states by far. and people are getting shot with guns all over the place. you need enforcement, you need lots of things. but you also to have get the bad people out. the people that are not supposed to be here, they're here illegally. we're going to get them out so fast and so quick and it won't be like, will you come please? will you come, please? these law enforcement people. i know the guys in chicago. your police commissioner is a great man. they can do it. if they're allowed to do it. i know the guys. new york, i know them. they're great. bratton, great. great commissioner. they can all do it. they can all do it. but they have to be allowed to do their job. they have to be allowed to do their job. so we're going to make our country a really wonderful place. when i was criticized the other day by hillary -- and also, the same day with the same word by jeb. same word. they said my tone, my tone. do you know the word tone? isn't nice. they didn't like my tone. they thought it was too strong. and i'm saying to myself, you know? we have crime all over the country. we have the borders are, i mean, the southern borders -- >> that's donald trump in his first town hall meeting as presidential candidate. we'll continue with "all in" with chris hayes. >> and he didn't fold and sit down and apologize. i only apologize -- do i apologize when i'm wrong. rush used the word incoming. incoming. you know what that means from these people here. incoming. then it turned out that i was right. and people started to see the violence and the crime. and they saw kate in san francisco, a magnificent person. whose family is a great family. and they saw jamill.