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guest of a member of the president s advance team but government investigators kept that information from its report on the handling of the secret service episode. So the advance team member, the difference being, he never got exposed, never suffered the punishment doled out to a dozen agents who got caught up in the whole matter. Joining me now, two white house correspondents, Kristen Welker with nbc news and david with the Washington Post. Post. Jonathan dock had a sex worker at his hotel room on that trip to colombia. Quote, the hotel logs for dachs stay, showed that a woman was registered to his room at on april 4, including an attached photocopy i. D. Of the woman. It matches that of a woman advertising herself as a prostitute. Dach has denied hiring a prostitute or bringing anyone to his room. This secret Service Agent who is added to the witness list, along with the hotel logs, is he going to come forward . He came forward to talk with the investigators. His eyewitness account stands as far as, the question is whether theyll continue to talk about this publicly, i dont know. But as far as the Inspector Generals Office is concerned, its an open question as to what happened. What the white house is saying, they interviewed johnny dach more than once and he said he did not have a woman in his room. Other people on the trip said they did not see anything suspicious. So the white house dropped the investigation. But i think what were seeing is that theres plenty more
evidence, from those other people from the White House Advance Team, in the hotel lobby when he came in at midnight . They were with him part of the evening. He got there the day before. Came back to the hotel with his colleagues, at that point, there are questions about what happened overnight. The secret Service Agent who testified here, any reason to disbelieve any of them . Any reason they have a reason to be incompetent or dishonest in making these claims . I think the logs from the hotel showed this guest was registered to the room. Many other agents who were implicated has the same evidence and they ultimately were found culpable. The white house has pointed to one case in which an agent was purported to have a woman and proved he did not, but overwhelmingly, with this was the initial amount of evidence
that impacted others. Its a concern among the agents who suffered consequences, also in the Inspector Generals Office, those who investigated thought this should be fully aired. Lets look at how the white house has reacted to the incident. From the Washington Post, secret Service First provided evidence to white House Counsel indicating dach registered a prostitute into his room at the hilton. This is whis what jay carney to reporters days later. There have been no alleged misconduct anyone on the white house staff. Theres no indication that any member of the White House Advance Team engaged in any improper or conduct or behavior. Kristen welker and i have been talking on this matter during the day. The Washington Post treat it as a major story. They believe the evidence is there that the white house did not act on this the same way they did in dealing with the secret Service Agents. Whats your feeling up there . Well, it does raise questions about transparency. Why didnt we learn when this investigation was going on, that the white house had evidence to suggest that this woman was signed into the room of johnny dach. Ive been speaking to mouwhite house officials throughout the day. Theyre pushing back against this report. They theyre defending the review that took place. I spoke with a former official who was engaged in that review who said they interviewed johnny dach three separate times, as well as several officials who were on that trip with him and no one saw this woman coming into his room at the time, or into the hotel with him. And the question is [ all speak at once ] thats the big question. Im just talking about the fact, not the right or wrong, or the gravity of the situation. What im asking, was there anybody in position to deny the facts of the story, the fact there was a log, an agent who did see it . Was there anyone there who did not see this happening at midnight . Is anybody claiming he was present when he came into the the white house is saying, based on the people they interviewed, they didnt see him go into the room with someone. Now what were seeing is this witness come forward, speaking out anonymously saying that, in fact, they did see him walk in with this woman. And the question was, where was this witness at the time of the initial investigation . Having said all this, it raises questions about transparency and your seeing the congressman who wrote a letter to white house chief of staff, demanding to see all the documents from that ve view. I think youll see the calls growing louder for the documents to be released. Im told right now, there are no plans to release the documents, but i think thats where the conversation has in the coming day. The lead investigator later
told senator staffers he felt pressure from his peers to withhold evidence and that decisions were made with Political Considerations in mind. A Committee Looked into the allegations and this was their conclusion. The Sub Committee did not substantiate those allegations. Thats true, but they also did not disprove them. What the Sub Committee found was that the investigator told congressional investigators that he felt this pressure, but his superiors said they did not do anything improper and there was no Political Considerations here. So it was a he said, he said and there no way to determine one way or the other. But you had a witness who said they would put pressure on them not to go forward and put it in the report . Absolutely. He suffered consequence. He was put on administrative leave. This lead investigator went to cartagena, interviewed hotel staff, these are things the
white house did not do. The white house said this was a volunteer travel. For us to send an investigator would be inappropriate. It would look ridiculous. But thats what this igs report determined with face to face interviews in cartagena. He was put on leave for what his boss was said an unrelated matter, but he believes was retaliation. So whats the whole theme . I think the white house was quick to say that none of their staff was involved, none of the advance team, of which this person was a member. And that there was no substantial evidence, jay carney said three days after questions were raised about whether or not a white house person was involved. Quickly said no repeatedly that anybody had been involved. Now were finding out that the investigation and evidence was presented to the white house and it continued after that and was not made public that that was going on. Do you believe that they have
nailed down the truth that Jonathan Dach had a sex worker in his room that night . No. What it says, there was information presented by the secret service to the white house, that this information exists, that the woman was registered to this room. There was additional evidence in a separate investigation by the inspector general. The question is, what did the white house do with the information . Thats the accountability question. Dongets you share the skepticism from the witness here . I think its worth reviewing. And the question to the white house, did you review this thoroughly and and they said none of their Staff Members or travel associates on the trip were involved, when the agents were being disciplined, said all the team with him has to be held to the highest standard. The question is the whether the white house looked thoroughly into that question, even they they were saying they had done
so. Do you believe he was given preferable treatment because of his fathers ties to the white house . He supported some of the first ladys initiative whats your evidence that he got favorable treatment for his son . Theres no evidence. The question was, the inspector generals lead investigator into this report said that he had been pressured by his superiors to remove information yes, absolutely. [ all speak at once ] so were going to hear. Let me go back to kristen. Are we going to have a couple days back and forth between the people who talked to the post and the white house denying they have credibility. Where is this going . I wouldnt be surprised. And i would make a couple of points. I think this underscores the tensions between the white house and the secret service when theyre going through this incredibly difficult time, a pivotal time for the secret
service. The secret service feels as though there was special treatment. I think that could be a challenge moving forward, as you know, president obama just appointed a new interim director of the secret service. Joe clancy. Hes charged with trying to get the agency back on track. Ive been told that the House Oversight committee is launching its own investigation into these four recent breaches. Cartagena, the 2011 shooting in which it took the secret service four days to determine the bullets hit the white house. The atlanta incident when president obama was in the elevator with an armed man. And the most recent one, the white house fence jumping in which an intruder made it deep inside the white house. So i think well be learning more about all of the breaches in the coming days. I can tell you, according to a Senior Administration official, the department of Homeland Security plans to appoint a fourmember panel by the end of this week to start reviewing all of these scandals that have rocked the agency. Thank you so much, Kristen Welker and david. Well see how it develops. Coming up, republicans may have found an issue to run on this november. Fear. Fear itself. Republican candidates across the country are using things like the threat of isis and ebola to scare the voters into voting against democrats. Lets see if its working. And what the democrats can do to fight it. Its hard to fight the notion of fear when its so imminent. This is hardball, the place for politics. Special discounts, new technologies. Like smart pick ups. Theyll only show up when you print a label and its automatic. We save time and money. Time . Money . Time and money. Awesome. Awesome awesome awesome awesome all awesome i love logistics. Man [ laughs ] those look like baby steps now. But they were some pretty good moves. And the best move of all . Having the right partner at my side. Its so much better that way. [ male announcer ] have the right partner at your side. Consider an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. Go long. Weve got a slew of new senate polls tonight and for that we check the hardball scoreboard. To new hampshire, shaheen is over brown, 4741. In line with the polling weve seen there all along. Brown could win if theres a republican sweep. Next, dan sullivan leading
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these. Evil forces around the world want to harm americans every day. Theyre entering into our country through arizonas backyard. Yet kirkpatrick votes with her party against protecting arizona, voted against technology to detect illegal border crossing, she even voted with nancy pelosi against providing funds to secure the border. With Americas National security threatened, warnings of islamic extremists, isil plotting imminent attacks. What does mark udall say . I said last week, isil does not present an imminent threat to this nation and really . Can we take that chance . For the record, the director of the National Terrorism center himself has said theres no evidence isis is plotting to attack the United States here. Senator udall said we need to
respond to the threat posed by isis itself. Yet you have republicans like tom cotton alleging isis is collaborating with mexican drug cartels to cross over the border. Its not just an immigration problem. We now know that its a security problem. The islamic state, collaborate with drug cartels in mexico and have clearly shown theyre willing to expand outside the drug trade into Human Trafficking and potentially even terrorism. Evidence that isis and the cartels are collaborating, several rightwing blogs, including one that quotes someone with no direct knowledge of current intelligence, suggesting that its something that may happen. Then theres this claim from Duncan Hunter from california. If youre talking about protecting americans, isis is coming across the southern border let me ask you they wont be bombing american cities, but they will
be coming across from mexico. Do you have any information or evidence that theyre coming in the southern border now . Yes, yes. Tell me what you know. I know that at least ten isis fighters have been caught coming across the Mexican Border in texas. The department of Homeland Security has said that claim is false. Today the homeland secretary said several middle eastern men were arrested trying to cross the border. But they were members of a Kurdish Group who fight against isis. Joan, i want you to start here. This is so wild, these accusations. They are. And theyre so apocalyptic, i should say, the worlds ending, theres going to be bombings in the United States and california. You dont need evidence to just say it. No. And a lot of this is antimexican. This is one excuse to be a prejudiced person. Admit it, i got no problem with regular illegal immigrants, i dont want the people carrying bombs. Now theyre carrying bombs. Thats why they have the cantaloupe legs now, carrying the bombs over the border. No, its ludicrous, chris. Remember when we have the Child Migrant crisis on the border. Thats been largely solved. But the migrants who carry disease and drugs, theyve been replaced by isis and ebola. Its straight out of the republican xenophobic playbook. We can have a rational debate about whether we love the response to isis and ebola. On the other hand, this goes right into the heart of obama derangement syndrome. Some of these people, especially the rightwing talkers, really like to say the president is sympathetic to isis because of his muslim roots, or that hes
too soft on ebola, because of his africa roots. Right now, david vitter is holding up the funding bill for ebola because he thinks it devotes too much attention to africa. So we can have a rational debate. There are ways to disagree about this. But this is straight out of the obama derangement syndrome Midterm Election playbook. Im amused that everyones getting all worked up about this. This is politics. This is the 11thhour politics. You know what it reminds me of . It reminds me of the side that popped up in my neighborhood when i was running for u. S. Senate, that was obviously put there by democrats, warning the community that if im elected a u. S. Senator, that Church Bombings will begin. The whole civil rights agenda from the left is no different than what youre seeing played out here in a campaign scenario. Michael, thats an
exaggeration. Its not the same. How many churches got burned when george bush got elected . Can we visit the same hyperbole and sank moany . Where are these ads . I never saw them. You may not have seen them, but they showed up on air when i was a candidate. And a whole lot of noise about lets retreat to truth. [ all speak at once ] okay, okay. Youve exhausted my memory track. I cant get back i cant either. Do you think there might be something to the charge when they talk about the border, the implication is the Mexican Border. They never talk about the canadian border. There might be something of a dangerous there. But its ethnic. Theres no border checks along the canadian border. The millennial bomber came
through canada. Why are you acting like this is something new . We think its a cover for another charge. I dont know the evidence you have for that. Come on what evidence do you have that this is a racist attempt to but why do they focus on the border and the Child Migrant crisis [ all speak at once ] thats where weve gotten 20 million illegal people from. And whats that got to do with isis or ebola . Some believe theres evidence. Theres dispute as to some believe. Come on, michael. [ all speak at once ] i understand the political points youre trying to score. Can we look at this analytically . Weve had one tragedy of ebola in this country, someone who came through belgium and Dulles Airport in washington. They didnt sneak across dressed in arab clothing and leaving behind the koran. I understand that. They came in broad daylight from belgium. I want to get back to joans point. You can have the rational discussion about whether or not weve failed to deal with ebola, we failed to deal with isis correctly. But we are at the last minute of a political season and this is the drama that is put up there. Lets go to your successor, the chairman of the National Committee who defeated you. The tragedy is a fair one, according to him. He told the new york times, its the accumulation of ineptitude thats hovering over obama and in turn, his lieutenants that are running for United States senate. I think its a powerful message because number one, its true, and number two, its simple. Heres what im thinking, we all watch kimmels thing with biden. Enjoyed it because it made us feel superior and sophisticated because we know who joe biden is. We do. But the person out there with a little bit of interest in
politics will hear this scare talk. Yeah. And you think thats fair politics . I dont know about you and joan, but i give the American Voter a little bit more credit than that. [ all speak at once ] i dont think any voter is going to go to the polls quaking in their boots and voting republican because, guess what, oh, isis may come over the border. Because i saw a campaign commercial that told me so. The guys writing those commercials are getting paid a lot of money to write them. Theyre not designed for the average american. Theyre designed to turn out the Republican Base, because they hate president obama, they want to believe its incompetent and they have some issues around people coming over the border. Clearly its not just the Republican Base that people are concerned about, because clearly the democrats have a problem with the president as a base as well. Can i just make a point . No matter what you say that people dont like, its fear. Tie it to the mexicans crossing the border. There you go. Anyway, thank you. A place in history for this scapegoating. Thank you, Michael Steele that its not you. Youre just defending it. Thanks, joan. Up next, Hillary Clinton talks about falling for bill and barack. This say little bit high school. Ill be in North Carolina tomorrow to cover the senate race tomorrow. Well have our report on monday, but well spend all weekend making movies down there on whats going on. This is hardball, the place for politics. About tomorrow, we miss out on what matters today. At axa, we offer advice and help you break down your retirement goals into small, manageable steps. Because when you plan for tomorrow, it helps you live for today. Can we help you take a small step . For advice, retirement, and life insurance, connect with axa. For advice, retirement, and life insurance, get to the terminal across town. Are all the green lights you . No. Its called grid iq. The 4 51 is leaving at 4 51. They cut the power. Itll fix itself. Powers back on. Quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. Thrillingly predictable. I lochecked bag. Free with my united mileageplus explorer card. I have saved 75 in checked bag fees. Priority boarding is really important to us. You can just get on the plane and relax. I love to travel, no foreign transaction fees means real savings. We can go to any country and spend money the way we would in the us. When i spend money on this card i can see brazil in my future. I use the explorer card to earn miles in order to go visit my family which means a lot to me. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Transit fares as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. No . Oh, right. Youre thinking of the 1. 6 million daily Customer Care interactions xerox handles. Or the 900 Million Health insurance claims we process. So, its no surprise to you that companies depend on todays xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. Which is. Pretty much what weve always stood for. With xerox, youre ready for real business. Back to hardball. Time now for the side show. No question the past few weeks have been tough for the president. Now with isis on the move again, the president s critics are raising new questions about our military campaign in the middle
east. Not only about the strategy, but also about choosing an appropriate name for the operation itself. And that was Stephen Colberts concern last night. This is the First Military intervention in 25 years without a code name. Now, it might be because our chin stroker in chief wants to avoid an embarrassing acronym here, like past rejected code names. Operation afghan freedom which spelled oaf by accident. Or Operation Iraqi freedom which spelled oil. But so far the only name military planners have suggested to the pentagon was Operation Inherent resolve, which was rejected because as one military officer put it, it was just kind of blah. I agree, i agree. Although given the mood of the country right now, i might go with operation kind of blah. Hillary clinton spoke in chicago yesterday and told the audience that she had initially declined the job of secretary of state when barack obama first offered it to her in 2008. In fact, she compared her event jaul decision to take that job to her decision to eventually accept bill clintons marriage proposal. In my discussions after he offered me the job in chicago, then i said no, then i said no again, and finally i just gave in and as i said to somebody the other day, i told my husband no, and i wouldnt get married, and no, and just gave in. So i have a history with charismatic attractive men who just wear me out. Charismatic attractive men who just wear me out. Laying it on thick. Finally an item that falls under the heading of dont call me, ill call you. Most people would be excited to get a call from the white house. But apparently not everyone. Jimmy carter spoke to People Magazine for their upcoming 40th anniversary issue, and heres how the president responded if he was asked if he ever hears from president obama. Quote, not really. When i was president i called ford and nixon until they finally asked me to leave them alone. Is carter that tiresome . Or were ford and nixon just bored with him . Anyway, how republicans attempt to bridge the gender gap this year. Not going according to plan. Thats next. And take a look at the preview of coming attractions. Hillary clinton and Chris Christie on the campaign trail today. Christie is the embattled republican governor tom corbett. Youre watching hardball, a place for politics. Hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection . Yeah, we help with fraud protection. We monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. Wow youre really looking out for us. We are. And if there are unauthorized purchases on your discover card, youre never held responsible. Just to be clear, you are saying frog protection right . Yeah, fraud protection. Frog protection. Fraud protection. Frog. Fraud. Frog. Fraud. I think were on the same page. Were totally on the same page. At discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Fraud protection. Get it at discover. Com whos going to do it . Whos going to make it happen . Discover a new energy source. Turn ocean waves into power. Design cars that capture their emissions. Build bridges that fix themselves. Get more clean water to everyone. Whos going to take the leap . Whos going to write the code . Whos going to do it . Engineers. Thats who. Thats what i want to do. Be an engineer. [ male announcer ] join the scientists and engineers of exxonmobil in inspiring americas future engineers. Energy lives here. Dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future. You. Thank you for being my hero and my dad. Military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the legacy of usaa Auto Insurance could be one of them. If youre a current or former military member or their family, get an Auto Insurance quote and see why 92 of our members plan to stay for life. Its a fresh approach on education superintendent of public instruction Tom Torlaksons blueprint for great schools. Torlaksons blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will reduce class sizes, bring back music and art,
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republican fear mongering and how that can move the voters or not this november. Plus, the gop gender gap. The republicans have a women problem when president obama trounced mitt romney by 11 points. Yesterday we showed you highlight polls of Crucial Senate races like North Carolina and colorado where the women support the democrat by doubledigits. Well get into all of that. Michelle bernard, who was featured in the november issue of essence magazine, as a rising star in politics today. U. S. Congresswoman Donna Edwards of maryland is already a star and and liz mayer is somebody im meeting today, a former spokesperson for the republican National Committee. The president called the secret service knuckle heads. 12 were zapped, had their careers ruined. Now we find out this guy running advance for the president may have been guilty of the exact same sin, if you will, of having sex workers in his room that night. Well, the difference is, he was a volunteer, not secret service. But the problem goes deep in the secret service. I mean, its systemic. What about the white house advance guy involved . I think the white house needs to deal with that and figure out what its protocols are for dealing with people who advance them and making sure that theyre the right people. I mean, its kind of embarrassing and silly. Do you think its an open question whether they should be able to have a hooker or not . [ all speak at once ] thats not the open question. There are things that stand out to me that i think are really bad about this. And im saying this purely with my woman hat, not with anything partisan going on. First of all, calling them knuckleheads, i think diminishes this. When were talking about meme who work as sex workers, those tend to be some of the most exploited and vulnerable people
in all societies, even places where its vulnerable. Knuckleheads is really playing it low. You think thats a frat boys reference . Yeah. I think its very dismissive. When its a serious issue. [ all speak at once ] he doesnt want to make the guys who are protecting his life i get that. Morally inferior. But obviously hes already done it, because theres retribution with people coming out with information about this volunteer, which ultimately, we dont know 100 what happened. Exactly. But it doesnt look good. And the real problem isnt necessarily what he did or didnt do, i cant believe he was offered a job as a contractor handling womens issues. Thats extraordinary. [ all speak at once ] this a fight behind the scenes between the secret service and the president . If you delve into it more clearly and i am clearly, you know theres no evidence that
he did anything wrong. He was a 25yearold yale stude student. Is he going to risk being disbarred over having a prostitute in his room in a country where its legal . [ all speak at once ] i think the white house needs to examine what it asked because they dont want people who work for them when they call them on the carpet to lie. So i think thats a bigger question. I get why this guy didnt want to say what happened if thats whats going on bill clinton wouldnt have said either. But thats not the point. He was a person who was doing the hiring. Who was he volunteering before . If youre dismissive about this kind of thing, that doesnt make it right. When youre standing up and saying were championing womens rights. That just looks ridiculous. [ all speak at once ]
it was a secret Service Agent who was misidentified at a Different Hotel in cartagena. They said he brought a prostitute in his room. They didnt have records. He didnt have records from the hotel. What about the witness . Plus the hotel records. Im so much more concerned about us getting to the problems within the secret service. Yeah. Lets talk about something. Youre all women. Ive always believed that choice, abortion rights is a big signal to a lot of people about how you stand with women. But i thought it was more than that. In my family, traditional marriage, my wife knows all the shots the kids have had when theyre growing up, knew all the teachers, knew most of their classmates. Men are a bit out to lunch generally unless youre mr. Modern about any of that stuff. So when you go to vote, you look at the health issues. Whats covered in my husbands Health Insurance . For some reason, women are the pro pritors of most homes. They pay the bills. They know what everything costs. They know whats coming in. They are the ones that handle that. If you look at Demographic Data about who is becoming a Small Business owner, its women. How does your party get them back then . Not the way were doing it right now. [ laughter ] i would just hasten to add that i think that the candidates were fielding in colorado, and North Carolina generally are poor candidates. I dont think they are matching when they should be capable of doing it in those states. Going into the cycle, i honestly thought if somebody said, whos the most vulnerable democrat, i would have said kay hagan by a mile and thats not happening. So we have problem with candidate recruitment. [ all speak at once ] but thats such a low bar to clear. And filled with women and no statements that money is more important to men than women. But heres the problem. Within the Republican Party
theres a very small gender gap when youre beilooking at marri wealthy white women. How about women who work outside the home . White women who work outside of the home, by and large, large numbers of them vote republican. The problem for the Republican Party is the browning of america, and African American women, women of color, asian women, do not have any reason right now to vote for the Republican Party. [ all speak at once ] if you ask questions about why women care about things like violence against women and why tlaz a gender gap here, when you have more than half of the Republican Party voting against reauthorizing the violence against women act tells me and then saying it only applies to women who are legal citizens of the United States. What about tom tillis saying it was a gimmick, talking about equal pay . Again women know they dont get
paid equally. When they know black women are making 64 cents on the dollar. I dont know if its necessarily that. I could have plenty of arguments about statistics that people cite with regard to the pay equity gap and why theyre not necessarily representative. But as a candidate, you cant be going out and arguing about all these little details. People dont seemed to understand at this point. Theres an old saying, if youre explaining, youre losing. Mike huckabee, he said hes going to leave the Republican Party if they dont take a harder stance against samesex marriage. Back in a minute. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from a dry mouth
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of still godfearing, loving people. Just to abdicate on this issue and while youre at it, go ahead and said abortion doesnt matter, either. At that point, you lose me. Im gone. Ill become an ind pen dent. Ill start finding people that have guts to stand. Im tired of this. What do you make of that . Is that the voice of your party . No, it is not. And i think there are a couple ways you can tell. You can look at polling. If you look at polling and republican ind pependenceindepe majority support samesex marriage. There were only two prominent republicans who said anything n negative about it. Him and ted cruise. That speaks volumes. Well, bobby was a little sort of wishy wash shi. Rick santorum who is running
again, you said huckabee. You have a strong, right wing front there that doesnt want to have anything to do with samesex marriage. Hold on. Hold on. As the republican here i would be saying to Mike Huckabee, if i wanted to win elections in the future, good riddance. I think hes right. I think theres no place in the Republican Party for him. And theres no place in the Republican Party for that. And i think, you know, it would serve us all well, frankly, from a governing standpoint, if these guys just go away. I also just want to make the poent that the people hes speaking to, who they say are going to exit with him, is a very small portion. And they say its all social conservatives. For social conservatives, i am not one, but knowing them very
well, for social conservativeco there is a huge difference between abortions and samesex marriage. Theres a huge difference. On abortion, that is murder. Whatever you want to say about samesex marriage and gay couples, it isnt murder. I would say that the parents of gay people are very turned off by the platform. We have gay children and neighbors and other family members and we know them. Thats the reason that the country has moved. It really is. And the Supreme Court followed that movement is not a surprise. And anybody else who isnt going that direction is just going to be left behind. It is just no different than the time when African Americans and whites was illegal to get married. Anyone who is on the side that Mike Huckabee is on is going to find themselves and National Embarrassment on the wrong side. Under the age of 50, those people are going to be the voters. My last point is not everybody is out. Theyre gay and not advertising and they dont like the way people are talking about it. So thank you for being here. Good luck. Youre really kind of aggressive here, which i think is interesting. I told you to be aggressive. Well be right back after this. In a race, its about getting to the finish line. In life, its how you get there that matters most. Like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. My doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. So he talked to me about xarelto®. Xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesnt require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. For a prior dvt i took warfarin, which required routine blood testing and dietary restrictions. Not this time. While i was taking xarelto®, i still had to stop racing, but i didnt have to deal with that blood monitoring routine. Dont stop taking xarelto®, rivaroxaban, unless your doctor tells you to. While taking xarelto®, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer for bleeding to stop. Xarelto® may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. Xarelto® can cause serious bleeding, and in rare cases, may be fatal. Get help right away if you develop unexpected bleeding, unusual bruising, or tingling. If you have had spinal anesthesia while on xarelto®, watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle related signs or symptoms. Do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. Tell your doctor before all planned medical
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