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Hell always be remembered for how he took the fight against Racial Injustice into his own hands, with a handshake. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Fear factor. Lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews up in new york. People only truly believe what they discover for themselves. They believe what they see, what becomes obvious to them. Right now, its obvious that ebola is not being kept from this country. Its here despite the promises we keep getting. How did that man get onto the plane . And why was he sent away from the hospital in dallas when he said he was here from west africa, where wree know theres an emdemmic of ebola. He walked in carrying some of the symptoms. Who and what are we to believe right now . The claim that there was a solid screening system in place at the airport in monrovia. That statement by president obama. Airport officials now say that the texas ebola patient lied about his exposure, so he could get into the u. S. What good is a screening system, if its so easily evaded . Health officials are trying to find up to 100 people who may have been exposed to the virus while he was contagious. The cdc and Texas Health Department are mobilizing war rooms in the dallas area. He walked into a dallas hospital with symptoms a week ago and was sent home. Even after he told them hed come from the ebola hot zone in west africa. For three days he roamed free in the dallas area. His nephew called the cdc himself as duncan got worse. What assurances do we have that others wont get in and that the right things will be done when they do . People dont like hearing these questions. I promise you, there will be a lot more if the assurances we keep getting dont match the realities were facing. Were joined now on the phone from monrovia, dr. Nancy snyderman, thank you for joining us. How did this guy get here when we were told by our president it would be unlikely that anybody would come here from the ebola area in west africa . I think doctors have been saying for quite some time that they expected a case of ebola to pop up in the United States. And thats because our world is smaller than ever. You can get anywhere within 12 hours on a plane. Interestingly, we know how this man was exposed. We tracked his path today in monrovia. He was exposed to the virus about four days before he left the country. Unfortunately, it can take eight to ten days for symptoms to show. Temperature, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. So when he left monrovia, liberia, his temperature was taken by the authorities, and it was normal, or he would not have been allowed to leave the country. So when he arrived in the United States, he probably still didnt have a fever. The real error was made when he first went to the texas emergency room with symptoms, high fever, and a history of coming from west africa, and he was inappropriately given antibiotics and sent home. A travel history is as important as any other part of the history in a physical today. And anyone coming through or from west africa, has to be asked the question, how do you feel . Did he get a questionnaire in the liberian airport, was he asked whether he had been in an area where he could have been exposed to ebola . Sources there say he lied and said he wasnt anywhere near a victim he could have picked it up from. Well, this is a real loophole that weve been trying to track all day. We know that he was in contact with a pregnant woman who died of ebola before his departure. I can tell you that all over monrovia, there are bill boards, messages blasting from television and radio, everyone here is hyperalert and hyperaware about ebola. So, i dont know what this man knew. We do know that he came in contact with a young woman who died before his departure from this country. And its hard to imagine that he didnt know that he was in proximity with someone that was ill. Because we tracked the taxi he was in, the exposure that he was exposed to, and several of the people he was exposed to have now died. Do we know that he came here to get treatment, that he knew he was exposed . Weve heard stories of family members raising money for him to get here. I honestly dont have a clue, chris. We do know he applied for a visa on september 2nd, and quit his job and saved up money i see, so he had planned to come here. That answers the question. He planned to come here before he was exposed. So that wasnt his motive, necessarily. Thank you, dr. Nancy snyderman. Any time, chris. This opens up a problem with trust and authority in this country. Right now its getting dicey. A democrat from california and Nurse Practitioner herself. And the Lieutenant Governor of maryland. Congresswoman, let me ask you about this thing here. The president , i dont know why he said it, that it was unlikely, two weeks ago that wed had an aids person an ebola person coming here from west africa. Who told him it was safe to say unlikely . Its not great to be knocked down in your claims by reality. Its not a good thing. I certainly dont know who told him. But what i do think he might have been trying to do was to just reassure the u. S. Population that we dont have to worry about a massive outbreak. Looking back at it, maybe he shouldnt have said that, but i do think that was probably the motivation. Because theres so much information that the u. S. Public needs to know and understand about this disease. Why would he warn us about something, though . Tell me the obvious. I dont know what it is. Why would we be afraid of people being afraid of ebola . Isnt that a smart thing, to be afraid of ebola, the way its handled through the airport and our Transportation System . I think part of that is correct. But if i remember correctly, he responded that way after the two doctors came to the United States, the ones that were infected and we brought back here, and he was assuring people. But i do think that its important that people be aware. I also think its really important that people not be so paranoid to the point where, you know, people really dont understand whats going on. You know, we are dealing with our own epidemic here, the enterovirus, over 500 cases in 42 states. So we have additional concerns we need to be worried about. Also four deaths from that virus in young children. Im a huge opponent of rolling disclosure. I think its vital that politicians be the first, like in the godfather. My lawyer always insists on getting bad news fast. Thats right. He wants the bad news and im sure the congresswoman agrees. You want the staffer to race into the office and not sit on it for three days. Here we have a couple of situations. The jv team in iraq and syria thats becoming a global threat supposedly. So is isis a jv team, what is it . Im just wondering about this effort to try to down play concerns at the expense of being a truthteller. It is a problem. I would agree with that. It is a problem to the extent that the administration, particularly the president is getting advice from individuals who arent telling him the whole story, or laying out some of the ramifications. And all you have to do is look at the most recent episode with the secret service. You know, you have the director briefing the president , but fails to tell him, oh, by the way, you were in an elevator with someone who had a gun. Thats a relevant fact, i think. Its a relevant fact. And i think the congressman would really appreciate, please, give us the relevant facts so that we, in turn, in answering calls from our constituents, what the relevant facts are. Heres an example of a guy. President obama is pushing the economy today, gave a mention to ebola in the context of american leadership. Lets take a listen. When alarms go off somewhere in the world, whether its a disaster that is natural or manmade, when theres an idea or invention that can make a difference, this is where things start. This who the world calls america. They dont call moscow, they dont call beijing. They call us. And we welcome that responsibility of leadership, because thats who we are. Thats what we expect of ourselves. And with that responsibility comes responsibility. Here i want to show you how you do share information. Right after 9 11, there was an anthrax scare in new york. And giuliani shared information as he got it. This is just a short clip from one of his press conferences. There was a skin test, a biopsy that was done. That came back positive early this morning. Cdc notified us early this morning. So the test of the powder was negative to anthrax. The skin test was positive to anthrax. But since, if it is the powder, it goes back to september 25, and you dont have any additional numbers of people reporting symptoms. The chances that this is contained, according to the cdc and we just finished a long Conference Call with them, the chance this is contained are very good. Thats what i like, a very calm disposition of how things stand and how you know it. And telling the public everything you know as you know it. Thats better than saying be calm, and dont worry, and its unlikely. That doesnt work. People are smart, watching the tv, going online. What did he say exactly . Okay, now i can work with that. I cant do something with general advice to be calm. But i can be calm when i see the mayor of my city going through the information as he gets it. Absolutely. I agree with both of you. I want to hear the bad news first too. Cut to the chase, let me know whats going on. But in addition to that, giving education, so, providing education to people about what this disease is, what the symptoms are, what you should look for, i think is very important as well. Michael, do you have any assurance we wont get a couple more guys jumping on the plane in monrovia . In two to 21 days incubation period. If the person is not sweating like mad or convulsing, they say hes clean. But it takes 21 days to show the symptoms. Its not working. I agree with that. I think its something that everybody should be concerned about, who are at those entry points and make sure there are the appropriate checks put in place. The other thing i think is important and the congresswoman touched on something that is important, the education. There are two parts to that. The first is that we the people are informed as to what this disease it, what the symptoms are, and we know how to deal with it. More importantly, as we saw with the hospital, that the information from cdc trickles down, so that in that emergency room, even if you have one of the list of symptoms, theres a sense of, we need to check this. But then when youre told, i just came from liberia or sierra leone, that raises it even further. So the education is important. Congresswoman, i just want to say thank you. I love the fact that youre a Nurse Practitioner. That means in addition to your legislative success, you have executive ability, which is a great thing. I look so much up to nurses, especially Nurse Practitioners, who do the doctor work. Thank you so much. Thank you. And my friend michael steele. Coming up, the embarrassments get even worse for nfl commissioner Roger Goodell. Its not just ray rice. Documents today, 50 cases of Domestic Violence under goodell and found that players received lenient discipline in nearly all the situations. Plus, Darryl Hannah will join us, the master of political impressions. Hes making his return to saturday night live this season as its new announcer after the death of the great don pardo. And tonights round table, well talk about the fear of ebola, hillary 2015 versus bill 1991. And a new report that the secret service leaked president obamas schedule to the mitt romney crowd. And let me finish tonight with the man who turned 90, former president jimmy carter. This is hardball, a place for politics. Transit fares as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. No . Oh, right. Youre thinking of the 1. 6 million daily Customer Care interactions xerox handles. Or the 900 Million Health insurance claims we process. So, its no surprise to you that companies depend on todays xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. Which is. 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Rocky bernard, he was in a nightclub, where he punched the mother of his child with a closed fist, striking her forehead, causing her forehead to hit a glass divider. His punishment from the league, suspension for a game, one year. About 14 Domestic Violence cases ended up with players being suspended. In all but one case, it was two games or less. 15 cases players were released or didnt resign. Those cases involved players with marginal talent. So they were going to go anywhere. What does this say about nfl culture . Brent, thanks for joining us. When you did this report, i want to stick to the reporting, because i think its news to a lot of people. These cases involve real violence, not shoving, but fists and injuries, and would normally call in the courts, assault and battery. Yet, whether theyre considered felonies outside of the league, in the terms of the leagues own discipline, theyre a game suspension, or twogame suspension. What do you make of that . A lot of them are misdemeanor battery cases. You could certainly say the nfl has been lenient on this issue going back to 2000. Theres been 90 since the year 2000. Whats changed is the outrage over the release of the video there was never the public outrage until people saw what it looked like on camera. The league handling it with a one or twogame suspension. These cases are hard to prosecute in the court and by district attorneys. I think the nfl has tried to follow the lead of Law Enforcement authorities when they try to punish these players and its not always easy. How do you get the evidence of what happened, when you cant make the case . Will the spouse or the girlfriend not testify . Is that the problem . Yeah, thats generally the problem. In almost half the cases, the alleged victim doesnt want to cooperate with authorities. They dont want to jeopardize their family, their security. So why didnt the policeman who is following the case, because i know these cases are women being afraid of men, afraid theyll hit them again, or worse, kill them, so theyre not going to go to court. But i thought the Police Officer is supposed to intervene and bring the charge himself, or herself. They are supposed to, but it can be difficult when the victim does not want to cooperate. When the evidence is he said, she said, its hard to prosecute. But sometimes there are physical injuries that the Police Officers make note of, of course. But usually, for firsttime offenders in a lot of states, this is how these cases get resolved. They enter a Diversion Program where the offender has to complete some kind of anger counselling, Domestic Violence counselling, community service. In exchange for that, the charge is dropped. Thats happened in quite a few nfl cases too. I think the league has looked at that as sort of, okay, the charge is getting dropped. Its a Diversion Program. Lets suspend him a game or two depending on the evidence. I want you to respond to this. There are more cases of Domestic Violence. Green bay packers line backer eric wald own was charged with felony battery against his girlfriend. The girlfriend later changed her story to say she started the fight. He was suspended for a game. And another one, he said police threw his wife down the stairs and out of the house. The nfl suspended him for a game. Cornell green, police say he slammed the mother of his children into a wall and hit her arm with a mop handle. He played in 12 games later that year. You see these guys meeting up with their spouses or girlfriends on the way out. Did you see this kind of violent attitude towards women . No. I do not see this sort of violent attitude towards women. This isnt just a problem in the nfl. This is corporate america. It is . I think its everywhere. Right now its just that the light is being shined on the nfl. The way the nfl works, they dont Pay Attention until there is public outcry. Theres a sense around the nfl, this has been going on for years. Its just now getting attention. These problems arent just happening in the National Football league. This isnt the only sport and place in america where were seeing Domestic Abuse. In terms of the nfl paying attention to it now, its because the public is finally paying attention, that the report was able to recite the different reports of players involved in Domestic Violence. Nobody paid attention to it in the past, but now they are you guys are both speaking the same language here. I want to go back to brent here. First of all, were not talking about a screaming match, not somebody throwing a dish, or a slapping match. Were talking about throwing a woman down the stairs, punching a pregnant woman in the stomach, decking a woman in an elevator. Youre telling me this is American Life. Is this your argument, both of you, this is the world we live in . Its not American Life for most people. But jocks, the highly paid athletes . Give me the sub set of america this reflects. I went to school with jocks. They got special meals and special everything. But the fact of the matter, in alabama, theyre treated like kings. They can swagger around campus and be big shots physically and intimidate people. You cant just say this is in the sports world. You cant say that. What is it then . Help me out. It is our society. But the thing that no ones paying attention to. The nfl is bringing attention to Domestic Abuse. But what are we doing with this now . For prevention . Education . How are we fixing this problem, not just in the nfl, but across the country . Because if youre going to say that these problems only exist in the nfl, then your eyes are shut. Because these are happening in our towns, our communities, everywhere, all across the country. So let it go . No. No, dont let it go. Use these football players, use the National Football league as an example to teach, to prevent. Thats the only way well see change. I saw the full page in usa today. Youre saying its not news, its to be expected that jocks beat up their women . No, its definitely news because the nfl has such a high place in american culture. Huge viewership on television and the media, theyve never been more popular than they are now. They make a lot of the money. When they get their name in the newspaper for scoring a touchdown, theyll get their name in the newspaper for getting arrested for Domestic Violence. Whats the gm, they pick up the paper, see their guy involved in Something Like this, 2 00 in the morning at some nightclub . What do they say . They have a meeting and say, scratch him from next weeks game. No, chris, what theyll do with that. Theyll wait it out, see what happens legally. Because for them its a business. The nfl is a business. Its pr. Its not even pr. They need to get those players on the field. They need to make that money. Thats why the reason why Roger Goodell has had such a difficult time handling this. Because his bosses, the owners of the nfl, are the ones he has to answer to. Its a billiondollar industry and those players need to be on the field. I want to thank you both. The players who are the problem are going to love this. Theyre going to hear, were just like everybody else. We swat somebody, thats what the other guys do. To is that what we to say to them . To the players involved . The offenders, the guys on the rap sheet. Get help. Fix the problem. Theres eyes on you, a lot of young kids watching you, be better. Great reporting, great work. Up next, Darryl Hammond joins us. Hes returned already now to snl as the shows announcer following the legendary don pardo. This is hardball, a place for politics. 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Saturday night live kicked off its 40th season with a show that debuted Darryl Hammond, a veteran snl cast member as the new announcer. Hammond appeared on the show for a record 14 seasons, takes the place of the late don pardo, whose voice over the years became synonymous with the shows iconic opening. Im thrilled hes returned. How can i not thank him for doing me over the years. Now, in order to book you, i had to agree to some ground rules, that im not crazy about. But as we say in the business, tough get, and youre great. Again, chris, youre too kind. Nono, youre too kind. Or as i mentioned already, youre also great. But this is hardball ive got to ask you some questions. Uhoh. [ laughter ] here it comes. Its now my pleasure to say, from new york, its Darryl Hammond darryl, i love you. Youre going to be a part of that cast now forever. Youre going to be institutionalized with saturday night live. Thanks, chris, youre great. [ laughter ] let me get ready for this. Youre going to do Darryl Hammond, but youll be playing in the foot steps of the legendary don pardo. How much of him are you going to be . Just enough to, you know, sort of tip your hat to him, because hes really not replaceable in any way. Im not even an announcer. I wouldnt ever try to replace him. But the idea was that we would sort of tip our hat to him. I think we picked like five vowels. Spend two weeks picking five vowels and were trying our best. Youre picking up some sound from don pardo. Youre picking up sound . No, youre picking up sound. Youre going to replace some of the sound that he makes. Well, yeah, you know, like, you cant just go you cant do him, and yet you cant not do him. So the idea was, do don pardo, but its not don pardo. Lets take a look at what you did, when i said to you, that you could capture the soul of bill clinton. Here you are playing former president bill clinton and you just paid a visit to obamas bedroom in the white house. Youre kind of a ghost of the past. Lets watch. We heard you were tossing and turning over whether to push for federal regulations, so were here to give you some advice. You two are the ones who stripped down the regulations. Why would i want advice from you . Dude, it was the 90s. People did all kinds of crazy things. [ laughter ] crazy things. So its hard for me to believe youre going to be there making the announcements and somewhere along the line when bill clinton comes back into action again, when hes really back in action, and his spouse of all these wonderful years is going to be president of the United States, will somebody say, we need bill, we need Darryl Hammond . You know, its kind of a place where almost anything can happen and usually does. Theres really i mean, you know, its about the most unusual place in the world. It could happen, but we havent discussed it yet. I love your dick cheney. You were Walking Around the set of the oval office and it was dick cheney with the snarl. You were into him before we saw you on tv. You captured cheney better than anybody. We had you on in 2012 as our expert at the democratic convention. When the next one rolls around in 2016, will you promise to come back and help us . If youre taking me out for onion rings were going to the weirdest most rural diner in the world like we did last time. Darryl hammond, its wonderful to have you on, thanks for being on the show and good luck as the announcer forever now. Thank you, sir. Announcer for life. Thats fine. We got the round table to dig into bill clinton actually, barack obama and ebola and how he handles it. Plus, the nfls history of going easy on Domestic Abuse cases. How does Hillary Clinton this year cam paired to what bill clinton was like before he ran . So many interesting differences, but hillary does have advantages over the first bill clinton when he came to national life. Well talk about that. Well have a look at last nights Minnesota Senate debate between senator al franken and his challenger businessman mike mcfadden. Here it is. Have you done a town hall meeting since elected . I believe president obama has done more town halls than you have in this state. I have done so many Public Meetings in which people have the chance to ask questions. I have a minnesota breakfast in washington every wednesday, that your son came to. Hes the most partisan senator in the democratic party. Thats a fact, not my opinion. Al franken is the ted cruz of the democratic party. male announcer its happening. Today, more and more people with type 2 diabetes are learning about longacting levemir®, an injectable insulin that can give you blood sugar control for up to 24 hours. And levemir® helps lower your a1c. Levemir® is now available in flextouch® the only prefilled insulin pen with no pushbutton extension. Levemir® lasts 42 days without refrigeration. 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I want the American People to know that our experts here at the cdc and across our government agree that the chances of an Ebola Outbreak here in the United States are extremely low. In the unlikely event that someone with ebola does reach our shores, weve seen new measures so that were prorpd here at home. We are now in the unlikely event. We are living in the unlikely event. What does that do to the president and governments credibility in saying theres nothing to fear . I think it hurts them. I think the American People are tender in terms of what this government does and says is sometimes very different. I believe that ultimately what the president needs to do, chris, is have some high figure profile person, like George Mitchell with the middle east back in the day, or the irish situation, where he can say, im going to cut all the red tape. The cdc and the dod and all the government acnimzs, they need to be on the same page with the world health organization. Right now, im seeing too many agencies going in too many Different Directions and heres the case of a hospital that did not follow obvious, very obvious protocol and should have been able to prevent this. They sent the guy home. It took his nephew to come back and beg for admission. This is a tricky time. Senate races coming up. Congressman is involved in one. We have races that could tip. Ten seats could go republicans because of uneasiness. Just a sense of we dont like the feeling in this country right now. Your thoughts . Yeah, i think the ebola situation is dangerous. Also focus on the secret service as well. Theres a sense that a lot of things in washington are going wrong. Isis, add that to it as well. A lot of republicans focused on the president s challenges and failures. That could affect the races, considering democrats are already at a disadvantage, looking at georgia, arkansas, so conservative in the first place. First i want to put my thought in here. We have second termitis going on right now. You bring in the second team, you get secondterm performance. President s when they get elected, my god, this is the biggest challenge of my life, im going to bring in the best team i can find. I want everybody in the room to be smarter than me. Thats the standard they set, the smart president , whether its reagan, or fdr, everybody in the room, smarter than i am. This administration is not that way anymore. Too many staffers that are yes people and not the inclusion of new people. Not staffers of staffers of staffers. Thats my argument. As Hillary Clinton readies her president ial run, the clinton brand today differs sharply from 1992. In todays politico, the clinton brand is of 2014 is missing three key elements, the first was new ideas, second, was an authentic populist connection and the third one was change. Casey, you study this stuff, i think well, i want to hear what you think. Hillary has advantages, but not some of the advantages that bill had . Right. I was with bill and hillary at that steak fry in iowa. Its so obvious that he loves this stuff. And shes still trying to figure out how to put her toes in the water. Shes not as comfortable as he is, in sitting around and talking about the basics of politics. He was up, talking to reporters. He was spending extra time with voters. She was quick in her interactions. She was friendly and warm, but not relishing that kind of thing. I think that they do have a point in saying that she would be the first woman president. And i do think that sometimes we underestimate that, as far as how especially women voters would feel about putting, you know, a woman in the white house. She might not be a new generation, but that would be a really significant step. Another plus she has we often overlook. Shes a worldwide celebrity. Everybody in the world who reads a newspaper anywhere knows who Hillary Clinton is. Bill clinton was just a governor from a small state when he ran. Exact ly, chris. I would rather be Hillary Clinton in 2015 than bill clinton in 1991. First, the celebrity factor. Number two, democrats view bill clinton as a successful president and Hillary Clinton was beside him at the time. It will be a challenge. I think theres a challenge of what are her ideas . How is she different from bill clinton or barack obama . And two, there is that populism question. Theres an Elizabeth Warren faction of the party. Shes going to figure out how to meet that demand, how does she appeal to those people . That said, shes got a great start. Hes way ahead of anybody else for the democratic nomination. So i think these three problems are smalling whi challenging i say. Bill clinton was a southerner. I remember down in waco, texas, the young clerk in the hotel i walked into, he said i kind of thing those two boys are going to win. There was a sense of regional guys running in their 40s. Bill clinton carried george, i believe in 92, lost in 96. Can Hillary Clinton have a shot in a place like georgia . I dont think she can. And James Carville was the governors consultant when he was running. But i think we also have to remember that bill clinton was running after 12 years of republican rule and with a very bad economy. Now the economy is not so great, but its not the republicans fault. I think thats going to hurt her. But getting back to bill clintons southern charm, if you will, ive met him many times. Hes a likeable guy, an approachable guy. He can talk to the heads of state. He can talk to the gas station attendant. Hillary clinton does not have that skill, and she cant fake it. Do you ever talk to her on that one to one basis . Ive done it and its a different hillary when you meet her. I think hes very easy to get along with when you meet her, if shes not afraid of you that day. She should be afraid of people like me, maybe that day. But youre on the other side of the aisle. When youre with her personally, do you find her offputting or cold . What would be your definition . No. But i dont find her warm and friendly and charming. What i do sense with bill clinton is a guy who is genuinely interested in me. When hes talking to me, thats his focus. He likes to know how the clock works in terms of the human personality. Tell me about your job, and he can connect with you, but hillarys little more standoffish. A little more academic, if you will. Youve given me something for my next book. Thats great. He likes to know how the clock works. Casey, we got to come back with all three of you folks. Lets talk about the secret service scandal. This latest one about the guy getting tipsy and spreading the word about the president s travel schedule. That can be dangerous doing that in the middle of the night. Anyway, this is hardball, the place for politics. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. 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Every year it raises money for the poor kids of new york, kids of all religions who are raised in tough circumstances. If you want to help the al smith cause, go to the website www. Al smith foundation. Org. Or send a check to the al Smith Memorial foundation, 1011 first avenue, new york, new york city, 10022. He would have been a much better president than the man who beat him, herbert hoover. Anyway, well be right back. Your customers, our financing. Your aspirations, our analytics. You were back. Just when you thought it couldnt get worse for United States secret service, another scandal hits. A former aid on mitt romneys president ial campaign is saying that his secret Service Campaign lae leaked president s schedule to ryans staffers back in 2012, during the campaign. Sean mccoy published on the ground in a key swing state to coordinate security ahead of several cam feign stops by the president. In one particular incidenincide secret Service Agent who had a number of drinks during the meeting began providing details of president obamas schedule. Including times and dates of the president s events. Congressman, we all know if youve got a guy scheduling, youve got his whole plan figuring out. Its also a security issue. Were not supposed to know where the president is going before they want us to know. What do you think of a secret servicejegent getting a little tipsy or even drunk . What was he doing at a bar . What was he doing drinking to begin with, much less running his mouth. I think thats why Speaker Boehner and chairman mccawl are right for the entire secret service culture, if you will. That kind of incident, we dont hear about it. It was reported through back channels. The president was not told about it. I think what the chairman is going to do is find out more about this and find out how evasive it is. I think this is imperative where agencies have tremendous track records. You can be tt assume that the team will always win, you can assume that the secret service will always be as wonderful as it was when it saved reagans life. Somebody getting on the elevator with the president and have a gun, a, and then, kbrb, e the president not know about it, that story particularly was very strubling. You know whats worse . He had a criminal record. You know what else is worse . He had a cell phone camera going. Imagine doing that to the president close range . The one thing i will say here is, you know, and i covered rodney aes campaign. I got to know many of the secret service ajengents who protected romney pretty well. Most of the secret Service Agents are in it for the right reason. But that said, this is probably only the tip of the ice burg. Weve forgotten there was an ins de incidents where one of the secret Service Agents left a gun in the bathroom of the plane. So i think for every instance that were starting to hear about now, theres probably two or three that were unaware of. At this point, as perry and the congressman were saying, really a management question. Thats the kind of thing from the coupleture at the top that matter it is most. I think leadership is key, anyway. Come back whenever you want, sir. We like having you on. Casey hunt, perry bacon, well 3w right back. Thanks, chris. Thanks, chris. Then theres trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. Our expertise, technology, and high quality parts means your peace of mind. Its no wonder last year we sold over three million tires. And during the big tire event, get up to 140 in mailin rebates on four select tires. No. Not exactly. To attain success, one must project success. Thats why we use fedex one rate. Their flat rate shipping. Exactly. It makes us look topnotch but we know its affordable. 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