working with israel on such an act of war, we could well unleash consequences that are impossible now to see, but imaginable as hell on earth with hezbollah engaged in an all out offensive with us, egypt quitting its treaty with israel, the monarchy in jordan toppling, and who knows what coming our way here in america thanks to the sleeper cells. war and peace -- that's how the president laid it out today, and we need to talk about it with nbc's andrea mitchell and david corn of mother jones and author of the great new book "showdown." you know, olympic games, i use that term because that was the code word for the bush administration, george w. bush administration's plan to destabilize, disrupt, cripple the iranian nuclear program through high tech, basically hacking into it. >> skcyber war. and because the iranian nuclear program is not on the internet, this actually required having an agent insert a thumb drive, and as david sanger describes in his book, confront and conceal, it was actually inserting mechanisms into the centrifuges in iran, in tehran, and giving us a mirror image, and the israelis as well, who we brought into this, in what was happening in the nuclear plant, and it was u.s. initiated, not as had been previously suspected or inferred. >> i thought it was israel. >> so did all of us until we read sanger's book, which has not been denied by anyone. it was george bush expanded greatly by obama. >> you're a president watcher. don't you think -- i don't know if you can go this far. i thought he gave it all away today the way he treated this with such gravity, the way he responded to the leaks, his anger about whoever did it was almost to me a statement, hey, this is what we're doing, and i don't want it out there. >> well, in fact, what mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, who has been completely nonpartisan in all of this and has been given high marks by the white house and democrats, he is saying that he did not think the president was tough enough, in sending a tough enough signal to his aides, cut it out, stop it, this cannot take place, the leaks, because this is an ongoing covert operation. >> here's president obama with those strong words for people he accused or have been accused of leaking information about sensitive national security issues, this very thing, these cyber attacks targeting iran's nuclear program, details of u.s. involvement in that program came to light last week in "the new york times." here's the president on it today. >> as commander in chief, the issues that you've mentioned touch on our national security, touch on critical issues of war and peace, and they're classified for a reason, because they're sensitive. and because the people involved may in some cases be in danger if they're carrying out some of these missions. >> that was in response, david, to a question about david jackson of "usa today." it's random you hear a president as smart as this guy thinking out loud. he's trying to deal with something that's so close to the bone. he didn't have a pr sheet to hand out on this or talking points. he's trying to figure right in realtime how to deal with this sensitivity. >> there's a lot going on here. when people leak in washington, it can be for all sorts of reasons. usually, it's self-aggrandizement, maybe to do someone in, maybe the bush guys who started the program wanted to make sure they had credit for it. sanger also had sources in europe and israel who worked on this project, but he does cite administration officials. >> he had someone in the room with vice president biden. >> but there's a reason to leak this stuff. it may inconvenience the program. maybe the program has run its course, we don't know. but if the administration wants israel and the rest of the world to know that we are doing something very real to slow down -- >> israel knows it, if they're involved. >> well, the israeli public as well. it takes off pressure for a military strike. this makes it a lot harder for the neo-cons to say nothing is happening. we can't stop them unless we bomb them. >> that's tricky. here's president obama. he wouldn't directly comment on the program, all through implication, i believe. he said the idea that the white house would leak information purposely about such a sensitive matter was offensive. watch. >> the notion that my white house would purposely release classified national security information is offensive. it's wrong. we're dealing with issues that can touch on the safety and security of the american people, our families or our military personnel or our allies, and so we don't play with that. >> we don't play with that. you know, it's hard not to be cynical in politics, but i got the feeling -- well, i think he meant it. i think he was really hurt that anybody would say he's out there hot dogging on an issue like this. >> he was responding to what john mccain said, and john mccain is the one person who has said that they did this, white house officials leaked this, this and other covert operations deliberately. >> he's throwing it all in the same bag, like going after bin laden. >> and saying that the white house leaked this to make the president look more presidential, more macho for the campaign. that's not what dianne feinstein and mike rogers and the others from the intelligence committees are saying. they're the prime movers. they're demanding a special prosecutor. they're demanding the justice department. they called in the fbi director yesterday, the head of national intelligence, and they are really upset. they say it is unconscionable that detailed information from national security meetings and the prior bush years as well were all, they believe, leaked. david sanger would tell you that it was his reporting, that clearly the world knew, as of 2010, when it became apparent to iran and the rest of the world that a worm had infected these computers, these centrifuges rather, that was when we all started suggesting it must have been israel, maybe with u.s. help. but what sanger had was the work of a really fine reporter. >> let me go out to you and david about something that really worries me. i'm an american citizen. obviously, besides sitting here, i worry about war. they always say in court, david, never ask a question unless you know the answer. don't start a war if you know the consequences. it seems that we don't know the consequences. now, i ran through a number of scenarios of what might happen. suppose israel goes in with our obvious complicity and achieves some measure of success in crippling the program but at the cost of several hundred lives or whatever happens when they go into these facilities. they have to do it. we have to support them. it happens. if that happens, egypt, it would seem to me, under whatever government they're in, automatically thinks about reneging on its treaty with israel. you've got to wonder about king abdullah and his monarchy, whether it survives in jordan. then you look at the new government in libya, where do they go? everything tips to the more angry at us part. >> in sanger's piece, he talks about this, and the president was asked again and again and again to oversee and give his okay as this program got more intense and sort of probed deeper into iran, same way we heard the other week about the kill list and the drones and everything. so one reason he is doing that is because he wants to do everything possible to avoid what you're talking about. >> a shooting war. that's how i got it today. did you get it today? >> it may be taking more risks at this angle to prevent the possibility of a war. >> this tells me it's gotten to the point, unless he can come up with another way to stop that nuclear program, even he, a man of the center left on foreign policy, in many ways, will have to act. am i right? >> yes. n bluffing in hisone is -- and last meeting when he was speaking here right before netanyahu came. what is really important and what sanger is saying publicly is that we should be having a national debate about this new kind of warfare, cyber warfare because the united states is more vulnerable than anybody on earth to retaliatory cyber attacks. >> didn't they decide it was better to go to cyber warfare rather than actual? >> yes. but did we compromise an actual program? sanger said he submitted it to the white house. >> do you know who the leak is? >> no. >> do you? >> i can guess the players in different parts. >> andrea can guess. she knows more. that's why i always ask her because you always know. >> i have -- we all have our suspicions, but sanger is an excellent reporter. there are serious questions, though, about whether some of this should have been put in print, and those questions are being asked by them. >> i think the president showed it today. boy, is he tough. i think he was feeling to me his office today, the unique responsibility he has as commander in chief to make these 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[ male announcer ] for fruits, veggies and natural green tea energy... new v8 v-fusion plus energy. could've had a v8. welcome back to "hardball," where today president obama again argued for congress to pass finally his american jobs act. it's been on the table over there since september of last year. let's listen to the president today. >> last september i sent congress a detailed jobs plan full of the kind of bipartisan ideas that would have put more americans back to work. it had broad support from the american people. it was fully paid for. if congress had passed it in full, we'd be on track to have 1 million more americans working this year. the unemployment rate would be lower. our economy would be stronger. of course, congress refused to pass this jobs plan in full. they did act on a few parts of the bill, most significantly the payroll tax cut that's putting more money in every working person's paycheck right now. and i appreciate them taking that action, but they left most of the jobs plan just sitting there. in light of the headwinds that we're facing right now, i urge them to reconsider. >> my take on this, it's time for the president to go big, force the republicans to say no to a big jobs bill that would actually put millions of people back to work. nia covers politics for "the washington post." she's been on the road with governor romney. and selange is an msnbc political analyst. i have to start with joan. what's left in that so-called american jobs bill. it has a nice cover on it. we like the term american. we like the term jobs. and the word bill's okay if it's passed. since it's not passed, you can call it whatever you want. the american jobs thought, the american jobs notion, but it's not passed at all. >> prayer. >> prayer. perfect. it's not been passed. why doesn't the president -- if they're going to say no, as i've been saying to spam, which is what we used to eat when we were poor. why not ask for steak? if mitch mcconnell says, screw you guys. we're not going to pass anything because my goal is to not pass anything and get rid of you. why not put forward a bill he believes in. public sector, fine. jobs putting in highways, modern jobs putting in fast rail. why not go big if he believes the public sector, as he said today, is getting starved? >> i think he will, i hope. >> when? >> i thought the jobs act honestly -- >> soon. tomorrow. after he listens to us, chris. seriously, in september the jobs act was a really big step forward because the president had been talking unfortunately way too much about the deficit. he'd been bogged down in the debt ceiling debacle. and he came out in september and announced this plan, and his poll numbers consistently started to rise. a couple things about the jobs act. you know, i defended it to you a couple weeks ago, and then i went and looked at it. i couldn't even find a number. there are lots of little numbers, but it should say on the front page, 6 million, 10 million new jobs. that's one thing. stupid design thing. but seriously -- >> you know why, because you look at the math, and the economy is $15 trillion in this country. it suffered from a low growth rate this year of less than 2%. >> right. >> he thinks he can goose that up with a jobs bill that's $140 billion. that's less than like a half a percent of our economy. if he got every nickel of this, he'd be moving the economy by a little less than half a percent. why does he go for something so small bore that, even if the republicans said go and take it, it wouldn't make any difference. and they're never going to say take it ever. let me go over to nia on this. any way to analyze this thinking, this small bore thinking? >> the problem is, if he goes big, he's going to be easily framed as a big spending liberal. >> what's wrong with that? he is a liberal. >> and they're going to talk about the stimulus bill, the $800 billion stimulus bill, which that didn't quite work. but i also think he has never been the big full loaf guy. he's always been the half loaf. >> half a loaf? less than one half of 1%. here's my problem. there is a stimulus bill on the record. there is a health care bill on the record. there is an auto rescue plan on the record. the question now is whether you sell it and believe in it and move on or you hide from it. joan, do you really believe he can hide from the stimulus plan because of the stupid title stimulus? do you think he can hide from an auto bailout because they're stupid enough to call it a bailout when they should have called it a rescue? they should have called the stimulus plan a jobs bill. no one goes against a jobs bill. stimulus is easy to go against. the shopping, the pr, the marketing has been a zero. these programs are good. they did the right thing on health care. they did the right thing on spending money when they got in there to rescue this economy. they did the right thing on the auto industry. they've got to say we did the right thing. we're going to do more of it the next term. this idea, you can squeamishly say, maybe we won't bring it up, and they won't talk about it. the minute they say you're not talking about it, the romney crowd are going to start talking about it. >> they lie. they're going to call you a big spender. nia is right. he has been trying to split the difference. he did run as a bipartisan, post partisan guy. he doesn't want to be out there as a big spending liberal. he's tried his best not to be that, but they call him that anyway. this is my big thing about the democrats, even including our old friend bill clinton. they want to act as though they're not the party of fdr, they're not the party of jfk and lbj, they're not the party that put people back to work and brought down the unemployment rate, but they're still accused of it. they may as well turn around and embrace it. he's got to do something big for young people. >> everyone watching the show knows why there's no bipartisanship. darth vader on the senate side, mitch mcconnell, who's only goal is to destroy the guy. and then you've got done knotts, mr. nervous nelly, who's always shaking in his boots, who's got wild men and wild women, the tea party types he wouldn't want to have supper with. he doesn't want to hang around these people, but they're around his neck. >> you've also got squeamish democrats who don't want to go back. you've got joe mansion and claire mcaskill. does she want to go back to new jersey and say i voted for a $400 billion stimulus bill? >> don't call it a stimulus bill. >> he tried to brand this as investment. republicans say this is spending. he doesn't want to be framed as a carter or an old democrat. >> let me tell you this. republicans talk about huge spending of defense, on aerospace and stuff like that, that's bigger spending than anything else. they're always for it. what's the difference between building on highways, national defense highways, that eisenhower called them. what's the difference between building up a structure in this country that we could actually get across fast? eisenhower would say it's a defensive move. part of our country's defensive move. >> and it is. >> there is some support for this. the numbers show that people generally want this stuff to happen. he just doesn't have the horses in the senate, in the congress to make it happen. >> you have to believe in what you do. if you believe in what you do, the public might buy it. if you don't believe in what you do, they may never buy t the president tried to champion some of the good news in the country during his political -- i'm sorry. someone put up the wrong prompter. someone told me to reintroduce you, joan walsh and nia-malika henderson. the president tried to champion the good news in the economy this morning, but he's faced heat from the republicans for saying, quote, the private sector is doing fine. here's where the president, i think, stumbled. let's watch him. >> we created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months. over 800,000 just this year alone. the private sector is doing fine. where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government. >> private sector is doing fine, miscue. a tad askew, as seinfeld would say. anyway, here's mitt romney quickly jumping on the remarks on the campaign trail today. even mitt can kwach thcatch thi. let's watch. >> he said the private sector is doing fine. he said the private sector is doing fine. is he really that out of touch? for the president of the united states to stand up and say the private sector is doing fine? he's going to go down in history as an extraordinary miscalculation and misunderstanding by a president who's out of touch. >> well, by midafternoon the president realized he'd handed the republicans a gift, and he tried to clarify his doing fine remark. let's watch the president. >> folks who are hurting, where we have problems and where we can do even better is small business that's are having a tough time getting financing. we've seen teachers and firefighters and police officers who have been laid off, all of which, by the way, when they get laid off, spend less money buying goods and going to restaurants. >> well, fighting fire with fire, here the democrats seized on this line from mitt romney today, where he attacks the president's jobs plan. let's watch. >> his answer for economic vitality, by the way, was, of course, pushing aside the private sector, which he said is doing fine. instead, he wants to add more to government. he wants another stimulus. he wants to hire more government workers. he says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the message of wisconsin? the american people did. it's time for us to cut back on government and help the american people. >> it's amazing, ladies, to watch the politicians play to their constituents. the president was obviously playing to the teachers union, over and over again, teachers, teachers. here he couldn't resist. even on a good day, he steps on his own headline. he had to come out and bark against the public service. >> sounds like raving against teachers and firefighters. all in all, this is a bad day for the president. any time he has to walk back a statement, and you see mitt romney seizing on it. it's good for the democrats it's june and not october where john mccain said the fundamentals are strong. >> the private sector is doing fine. so limited, he had to repeat it three times. maybe that's the message, like reagan did. if you repeat something over and over and over again, you make a point. >> i've also got to say, i watched this unfold on twitter today, and i saw a lot of people i respect, a lot of journalists i respect say, oh, wow, i know what he meant, but, boy, he's going to pay for it. i don't know. he's only going to pay for it if we pretend to be stupid and don't understand the context and let mitt romney get away about with it. we know what he meant, and he's right. the economy, we'd have a 7% unemployment rate, which is not good but it's a lot lower, if it weren't for the public sector layoffs, most of which in red states, governors like rick perry and scott walker. >> i'm with you. >> but we need to keep saying this. >> the people who talked to the president before the press conference today did him a dysservice. they talked him into being an insider wonk instead of an american leader. it reminded me of bob dole, the ultimate wonk on the right side, where he'd say that bill is in markup. you've got to stop talking in washington markup. the private sector is not doing great. we have a less than 2% growth rate this year, lower than anybody could have imagined. this economy is slowly shrinking along at the lowest, slowest level. >> all the talk about europe was a bit -- >> i'm not part of the cheering section. i've here to analyze. this time he made a mistake. thank you so much for coming on. have a nice weekend, both of you. up next, rick perry, remember him? he gets booed by texas republicans today, and he didn't even recognize the booing sounds. he thought it was something else. that's next in the sideshow. this is "hardball." 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judge has failed to dismiss any of the judges against accused wikileaks leaker bradley manning. however, the trial may be delayed. back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." in politics, it's not enough to do great things. you've got to be a salesman. you've got to sell it. president obama has had big successes much the stimulus created jobs. health care reform will help get the debt under control ultimately, and the auto rescue bill certainly saved an industry. why isn't obama shouting this from the rooftops? why have they let republicans attack them without fighting back? i would say now is the time to start selling and fighting back. obama's got to sell it. joining me now is u.s. congressman jim rand, democrat of virginia, ron reagan, msnbc political analyst and author of a great book, "my father at 100." i want to start with congressman moran. i asked, why isn't the president pushing for a larger jobs bill now and and a smart reporter for "the washington post" said, if he does that, then he'll be attacked for the stimulus bill. if he's not proud of the stimulus bill, he's got a problem. he ought to be proud of the stimulus bill. he ought to be proud of the auto rescue. he ought to be proud of health care. those are history making events which have made this country better. if he doesn't think so, who would? i don't get it. how can you hide from what you've done? it's the best stuff you've done. your thoughts. >> i couldn't agree more with you. it was nice to see that introduction, the pride of holy cross and worcester, massachusetts, chris. you know, you're so absolutely right. he rescued this economy. this economy was going off the cliff, and it was only because of the stimulus bill, which, if he had had his druthers, it would have been stronger. the fact that a third of the stimulus went into tax cuts that people can't even remember was unfortunate. it was a compromise that he made. but he rescued this economy. he needs to take credit for it, not shy away from it because, as you know in politics, perception can have its own reality, and if the republicans are successful in a common perception that the stimulus bill failed, that it was a waste of money, he will suffer, and the fact don't show that. the facts show just the opposite. he saved this economy. the dow jones is at twice what it was in the last month of the bush administration. we were losing 776,000 jobs in one month alone. the gdp was dropping by 9%. the fact is that had we not had that stimulus, we would be in a ditch that we could not possibly have recovered from. he ought to be proud of that. and, in fact, he's got so many accomplishments that he ought to be proud of. chris, i think, to some extent, he suffers a little bit from what george busch, the 41st president, george h.w. bush, he was a decent, moderate man. he didn't like bragging about himself, and he suffered as a result of it. his son disavowed all of his policies, which he should not have, and we're paying a price for that. while president obama's is a great orator, at heart he's an academic, and he doesn't like the idea of bragging about himself, but we have to do that because the facts are on our side. >> let's take a look at the stimulus. it worked. the nonpartisan congressional budget office said the stimulus increased jobs and lowered unemployment. ron reagan, let's talk about you, sir. you are a skilled representative of the reagan family. in this regard, not ideology, in the regard that your dad was a great communicator for a reason, not necessarily pro or con his ideology, everybody knew where he stood. i always loved being able to say that every cab driver in the country, or every person knew your dad was against the communists, he wanted to bring down the soviet union, he was for lower taxes, everybody knew that. he's too intellectual, maybe, president obama. he thinks we got it when we didn't get it. >> my father realized, before a piece of legislation was going to move on to congress, you had to presell it, if you will, and you repeated the same simple message over and over again, even though people in the press would be saying, oh, there he goes again. he keeps saying this. yes, you do. you keep saying it. >> and there you go again too. >> and then you propose it, and you keep selling it. and then once it passes or maybe it's making its way through, you continue to sell it then. even after legislation has passed, you continue to sell the legislation. you continue to sell what you're trying to do. and you do it in simple, straightforward terms. but you do it -- and this is where my father was really good -- you do it in terms of a narrative. you're telling a story. and if you take the stimulus, for instance, with president obama, everything the congressman said is correct. yes, it saved the economy. it was an important thing to do. we had to do it. however, that's not the end of the narrative. the problem for president obama with the stimulus in particular is it wasn't enough. the economy isn't recovering the way we want it to. now, the reason for that is he couldn't politically get a bigger stimulus through. he wanted to, but the republicans wouldn't allow it, and that's the part of the story he has to also stress. not just the success, but what they're doing. >> let's talk about the second pillar of what he's done, health care reform. obama's got to sell that too. we had five presidents who tried to pass it. i go back to fdr, at least as far as him, teddy roosevelt talked about. it's covered 32 million people that are uninsured. it's going to do all kinds of good things for people with young adult children. it's going to have them covered under your policy and allow people to get coverage even with preexisting conditions, and he also -- let's throw this in. he saved the american auto industry. i don't know why he's not proud of the kind of approach he's taking which is a positive liberal government. if he's going to have a second term, he's got to sell he's going to do more of what he's done before. it doesn't seem like he'd want to be squeamish about saying what he's done before. >> general motors is number one. 9 million jobs created. and the idea that mitt romney would say that he wouldn't have bailed out general motors, he would have let the auto industry collapse. mitt romney's father must be rolling over in his grave. the president has to take credit for that. he did it. he saved our auto industry. likewise with health care, it's unsustainable. you can't go along the way you're going. you've got to reimburse for the quality of the care provided, not the quantity of the services. so he's changed it. in fact, we're going to save about $800 billion over the next decade if we do this right. but it's not implemented until 2014. he has to stay the course. he should be proud of what he did. you're absolutely right. if he backs off, the republicans are going to seize that void, and they're going to try to convince the american people things that are simply not true, and then he's going to be on the defensive. >> u.s. congressman jim moran of virginia. i've known him for 50 years, a great guy. we went to holy cross together. it was mentioned in an earlier segment. up next -- reunion's tomorrow. 45th reunion. up next, john shriver, the son of sargent shriver and, has a new book out. cuban cajun raw seafood pizza parlor french fondue tex-mex fro-yo tapas puck chinese takeout taco truck free range chicken pancake stack baked alaska 5% cashback. signup for 5% cashback at restaurants through june. it pays to discover. ♪ ♪ we all need it. to move. to keep warm. to keep us fed. to make clay piggies. but to keep doing these things in the future... at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies. that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - 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i want to show you this now. i think somebody has to hold this up in the air. who is this little kid here? >> it's supposedly a cute baby, and it's supposedly me although my brothers claim it's them. >> it is your book. go ahead. >> to really dig in, i found a speech that he gave in 1996 in which he called upon jews to do our father's work. i was stunned. how does this guy call upon all religions to be inclusive. it was a process to figure out what made my dad a good man. >> let's talk about hardball. he was the vice presidential candidate in 1972. nobody is going to beat nixon. >> he was the seventh pick. >> what was that like? >> i was eight. i just remember a ton of secret service agents upon the house. after the campaign he bought a small boat and called it the lucky seven which a lot of people thought it was ironic. he also claim wed were the lucky seven, the five of us and my mom and dad. he got a chance to run for vice president of the united states, but also had a wonderful family that supported him. >> he wasn't the most political guy in your family. obviously, bobby kennedy was the most political. >> he wrote a book on him. >> i know. he was probably the least political guy in the sense of hardball i can imagine. bringing president kennedy, the candidate into the arms of working with martin luther king and calling up mrs. king, it changed history in terms of oofr can america african-americans in this country. >> dad knew martin luther king for his work as president -- >> he knew lloyd martin too. >> absolutely. this call which was shortly after martin luther king was arrested in 1960, a lot of people feared for his life. dad and louie martin came up with this idea to get senator kennedy to make the phone call to express his concerns. >> bobby got him released from jail. >> he did. >> he was the tough guy but agreed your dad was right. >> some people think it feels a great political move but i think it was dad's effort to try to alleviate some racial tension in this country. this was a consistent part of his life. he did it in the '40s, '50, '60s and '70s. he did it helping people with that poor or with the special olympics. trying to figure that out to be a good father and friend, that's the story. >> i think people should buy this especially for the 200,000 people in this country who are in the peace corp. i think they will buy it. in fact, i'm asking you to do it. you ought to know more about this guy we thought was great man. now pe know he was a good man. we all thought he was our father. we'll be right back. >> thank you. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of that. making real things... for real. ...that make a real difference. ♪ of how a shipping giant can befriend a forest may seem like the stuff of fairy tales. but if you take away the faces on the trees... take away the pixie dust. take away the singing animals, and the storybook narrator... 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[ male announcer ] sustainable solutions. fedex. solutions that matter. let me finish with something good. it's friday. it's a beautiful spring day here in washington. we just had sergeant shriver son to talk about his wonderful father. here is the blurb i had on his book. as founder of the pea course she was father to everyone in the peace corp. we see how religion today can lead to body things around the world, terrorism, war, hatred. one person kills another in the name of his or her religion and other treat the killer as a martyr on account he was killed in the act of killing others. sergeant shriver promoted his religious values but he thought people should help each other. like many'res, i had a chance to get out of my rut and go to a country in africa where i could work with local business people as a trade development adviser. i got a rare opportunity to live a totally different life for two years in rural africa. it was a life changing experience for any affecting how i look at things in the world. i'd like to think i did some good work for the good people that invited us into their country. it took a real good imagination to come up with the idea. it took a great deal of faith. he made it center around the peace corp., volunteers themselves out there in the bush in some shack or hut. not on the staff in washington. he did something else. by limiting the total time you can spend in the peace corp. he