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Good morning, everybody. It is monday, may 11th. Im yasmin vossoughian. We have a lot to cover this morning. Were going to begin with the coronavirus outbreak inside of the white house. As President Trump tries to convince americans that its safe to return to work, one of his own top advisers says it is, quote, scary to go to work at the white house. This is coming after two people with access to the west wing tested positive for coronavirus in recent days. One of the president s personal valets and Vice President pences press secretary katie miller who is married to the president s aide stephen miller. Dr. Anthony fauci, fda commissioner steven hahn and cdc director Robert Redfield are in quarantine. The Vice President laid low over the weekend, but his office now says he will not selfquarantine and does plan to be at the white house today. The Washington Post reports that all white house staffers received a memo from the White House Management Office on friday encouraging employees to, quote, practice maximum telework and to work remotely if at all possible. But the paper reports this, several Administration Officials say white house staffers were encouraged to come into the office by their supervisors. Here is one of the president s senior economic advisers, kevin hassett, discussing his concerns about working in the cramped west wing. It is scary to go to work. You know, i was not part of the white house in march. I think that id be a lot safer if i was sitting at home than i would be going to the west wing. But i think Everybody Knows going to work, youve been in the west wing. Its a small, crowded place. Its a little bit risky. But you have to do it because you have to serve your country. So according to the New York Times, white house officials initially asked reporters not to identify katie miller as the aide who had tested positive. But the president blew the secret when he publicly identified her during a meeting with Congressional Republicans on friday. Its shes a wonderful young woman. Katie, she tested very good for a long period of time and then all of a sudden today she tested positive. She hasnt come into contact with me. She spent some time with the Vice President. Its, i believe, the press person, right . You say press person. So she tested positive out of the blue. This is why the whole concept of tests arent necessarily great. The tests are perfect, but somebody can happen between a test where its good and something happens and all of a sudden she was tested recently and tested negative and then today, i guess, for some reason, she tested positive. Or maybe they have great because now you know the press secretary to the Vice President is positive with the coronavirus and needs to violate. So senator Lamar Alexander warned yesterday that congress does not have enough money to help everybody impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. Speaking on nbcs meet the press they said the republicans need a break through such as a vaccine. The Trump Administration has suggested a goal of 100 million vaccine doses by september, but alex sander said he has no idea if that is possible. There is not enough money to help everybody hurt when you shut down the government, so the oi only solution is test, trace, treatment and vaccine. So the fast turn on testing is the only solution to this. So we have to reopen the economy, we have to do it carefully, we have to let people go back to work and earn a living and i dont see us being able to appropriate much more money to help provide a counter to that. So former president barack obama slamming the trump a administrations response to the coronavirus pandemic calling it, quote, a disaster. Obama added that trumps handling of the deadly outbreak is, quote, part of the reason why the response to this Global Crisis has been so anemic and spotty. Obama also addresses the Justice Departments decision to drop its case against ex National Security adviser Michael Flynn, telling former aides that, quotes, our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. Meanwhile, obama confirmed that he plans to campaign heavily for his former Vice President , saying on the call that he will be spending, quote, as much time as necessary and campaigning as hard as i can for joe biden. Also, according to the Washington Post, republicans are growing increasingly nervous about possibly losing control of the senate this november. Thanks to a combination of the sinking economy, the president s mishandling of the outbreak and rising enthusiasm among democratic voters, the post is noting that in recent weeks, gop senators have been forced into the difficult position of touting their own response to the pandemic. Without overtly distancing themselves from a president who is under secretmy, but still also holds significant sway among republican voters. One republican strategist closely involved in the senate race is telling the post this, it is a bleak picture right now all across the map, to be honest with you. According to the paper, republicans have privately become alarmed at the situation in key races where they are counting on gop incumbents such as senator Susan Collins of maine and tom tillis of North Carolina to hold the line. Amid the coronavirus crisis, President Trump is growing concerned about its growing impact on his reelection campaign. The Washington Post is reporting that some of trumps advisers have described him as, quote, glum and shellshocked by recent polls, which have shown him trailing joe biden. In private conversations, they say, trump as struggled to process how his fortunes suddenly changed from believing he was on a glide path to reelection to losing in virtually every poll, including his own campaigns internal surveys, these are advisers telling the post. Trump is also concerned about the possibility that a second wave of the coronavirus this fall could further hurt his chances in november. Lets get into some of this. Joining me now, Washington White House reporter for politico, daniel lippman. Good morning, daniel. Great to see you on this monday morning. Thanks for joining us. I do want to get to those polls i just mentioned, but i first want to talk about the outbreak inside the white house. Troubling, to say the least. What are lawmakers saying about this outbreak . And give us the behind the scenes in the white house as you are seeing it and hearing it. So they have told more people to start working from home who can and its really kind of damaging to morale when you cant even stop the coronavirus from popping up in the west wing. And youre exactly right. While trump has slammed testing, wouldnt he want to know that katie miller tested positive . And most workplaces dont have access to daily testing, like many in the white house. So that makes it much harder for people to go back to work and lawmakers are a little increasingly concerned about going into the white house if they are going to get exposed. Yeah. I mean, thats the most confusing thing to me about all of this was the president s reaction to the positive tests inside his own administration. Thats why you have a period of two to four days, there is a day that you will test negative and suddenly there is a day that you will test positive because the virus becomes active in your system. Lets get back to those polls with regard to joe biden versus President Trump in a general election. Biden leading in every single poll, even when youre talking about internal polling with regard to the president s polls that he touts a lot, especially when he finds himself to be up in some of those polls. So you can imagine how its concerning to him now and affecting him now. Is he concerned about a second outbreak and how it could feasibly hurt his chances at a reelection . And how is that reframing their attack strategy, their Campaign Strategy Going Forward . So if you have a second outbreak in september and october, thats right before the election. So that makes it critical for the Trump Administration to get a handle on this to, you know, stop the spread then and to kind of pray that this does not come back. You know, trump himself has grown increasingly concerned about people coming you know, he doesnt want people to come too close. Hes worried about getting the virus. Hes in his 70s, so not good for someone his age. And i think the strategy Going Forward is going to hit biden on china, but its unclear that they can easily defend their own response. Daniel lippman, stay close. I will talk to you again in just a little bit. Still ahead, new reporting that some Administration Officials are growing concerned about the cost of stimulus spending. Amid the coronavirus outbreak, Ride Hailing Companies uber and lyft are facing a new legal battle about whether their drivers should be considered employees. Those stories plus a check on your weather when we come back. They are the heroes, the helpers working on the front lines, and heres one small way that you can help them in return. Complete your 2020 census today. 2020 census data helps communities plan funding for hospitals, clinics, and Emergency Services across the country. 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According to forbes magazine, uber has responded to the lawsuit lawsuit with the following statement, we will contest this action in court while at the same time pushing for guaranteed minimum earnings and new benefits, as well. Lets get into this. Joining me now, danny cevallos. Good morning to you. Great to see you this morning. Theres some pretty major financial implications on this case for both sides. Both for the uber and lyft employees as well as the companies. Talk us through this. This would be a massive financial implication for uber and lyft. If these drivers were reclassified as employees for the reasons that you mentioned, some of them. They would have to get into issues of waorkers comp. Uber and lyfts response is basically, we are not employing these drivers. We just provide access. Arguably, theyre like an overblown craigslist. We have two people. One person needs a ride, another person is willing to give a ride. We connect them. The complaint is that an independent contractor must satisfy certain elements. In california, youre presumed to be an employee unless you show the contractor does something your business doesnt normally do. So, for example, at my law firm, if i hire someone to come in and do landscaping around the building, thats not something the firm normally does. Were not in the business of landscaping. The problem is that uber and lyft dont fit neat loy into any of these categories either way. Its hard to say whether they provide technology or do they actually employ these drivers. So two things here. When you say this classification of the company doesnt necessarily have control of the employee, couldnt uber and lyft drivers argue that the company doesnt necessarily have control of them considering it is incumbent upon them to which rides they actually take and secondly because this is the state of california here filing the lawsuit, could this result in affecting other states, as well, and uber and lyft drivers outside of the state of california when the decision does come down . That will be the argument from ubers drivers and uber itse itself, that the control is entirely on uber drivers themselves, when they start working, whether or not they accept a ride. But on the other hand, the state of california says well, they have that kind of control, but the Company Controls all kinds of things. If a driver accepts too many rides, they can be paused in the system or suspended in a certain way and just as many issues mitigate on these people being independent contractors. Because this is such new technology, the traditional idea of someone going to a factory and being employed, they just dont fit neatly into either one. And yes, this case could have implications for other states that have or may accept similar laws to california and define their employees as california has. All right, danny cevallos, thank you as always, my friend. Great to see you this morning. Still ahead, an american scientist gets the president s attention after contradicting trumps claims that the virus originatesed in a chinese lab. Back in a moment. If you have moderate to severe psoriasis,. Little things. Can become your big moment. Thats why theres otezla. Otezla is not a cream. Its a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. With otezla, 75 clearer skin is achievable. Dont use if youre allergic to otezla. It may cause severe diarrhea, nausea or vomiting. Otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. 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Well, im a scientist and what i do is i look at the evidence. There is a huge amount of evidence that these viruses repeatedly emerging to people from wild animals through things like hunting and eating wildlife. There is zero evidence that this virus came out avenue a lab in china. Does the Wuhan Institute of virology, to your knowledge, have this virus in your inventory . No. Why do you say so . The closest known relative is one that is different enough that it is not sarscov2. So there is no evidence that anyone had it in the worlds prior to that outbreak. So hours after that aired, the president tweeted this, cbs and their show, 60 minutes with doing far less within their today than it was in the past to defend china and the horrible virus pandemic. I guess they want to do business in china. Last month, the Trump Administration halted exploration into whether the virus came from bats. Joining us now, bill karins. Good morning. Good morning. Happy mothers day to you. We said earlier in the weekend a styrofoam snow coming down. So my son jumped outside. And listen to this. Oh, my god. Yes. So i dont know if you got any of that, but it literally feels like balls of snow coming down. Yeah. It felt a little it felt a little bit like hail coming down in a way, but it seems like your kids got a little bit of the giggles there dealing with that snow in may. It was just all odd all the way around and hoping it does not happen again and we are through it and its sunny days ahead. Okay. Well, dont Pay Attention to todays forecast, then. So lets get into this for today. We do have a freezing temperatures out there throughout areas of the great lakes into the northeast. Temperatures are well below average and thats going to happen again today. We still have 65 Million People under freeze warnings and advisories and watches because we have another shot of cold air coming down. Its chilly this morning. Were in the 30s and 40s from the ohio valley up into the great lakes. As this storm systems kicks in today, its showing its snowing in cleveland this morning as you wake up and look outside the window. Come on. As we go throughout the afternoon, we will see a chilly rain in areas of the northeast. A section of New Hampshire and texas, we could see small hail from hartford to prove denies through massachusetts. Youll get these storms kicking through today and you will see more ice falling through the sky. Its very cold, almost like the end of march ride now through the grooex and northeast. But the good news is, we should be in the 70s by the end of the week in the northeast. You can see its an umbrellatype day in all the areas of the northeast. Well talk about those numbers coming up and well give you an update on the coronavirus numbers after the break. Still ahead, were digging into new report background the white houses efforts to bury a cdc report that recommended way toes safely reopen the economy. Also, some of the most alarming coronavirus numbers are coming out of Nursing Homes in new jersey. Half of all the covid19 cases have been linked to long time care facilities and the numbers have been particularly bad at one facility for veterans. Those stories and more, coming up. Where can a healthier heart lead you . For people with Heart Failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. Entresto helps improve your hearts ability to pump blood to the body. Dont take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. Dont take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if youve had angioedema with an ace or arb. The most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. Ask your doctor about entresto. 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Were going to begin with internal government emails obtained by the Associated Press that show the decision to shelve detailed information from the cdc coming from the highest levels of the white house. The files show that after the ap reported on thursday, that the guidance document had been buried. The Trump Administration ordered key parts of it to be fast tracked for approval. The document, titled, quote, guidance for implementing america again framework was researched and to help faith leaders, educators, state and local officials help to reopen as they reopen their businesses. The white house said friday the documents had not been approved by redfield. The emails show that redfield cleared the guidance and shared it with members of trumps inner circle as early as april 10th. Despite this, the administration shelved it on april 30th. In a preview of his upcoming interview on 60 minutes, rick bright who filed a whistleblower complaint last week saying he was removed from his job pore the putting science over politics, he talk about the administrations response to the covid19 response and the reassignment that he is calling retaliatory. We see too many doctors and nurses now dieing. And i was thinking that we could see have done more to get those masks and those supplies to them sooner and if we had, would they still be alive today . Thats a horrible thought to think about the time that passed where we could have done something and we didnt. You believe you were retaliated against because you raised concerns about hydroxy clo color quinn . Yes, i do. You had been sounding the alarm about the lack of testing platforms. This sounded like an important job. Thats an important initiative. I am the director of barta. To take me out of our organization focused on drugs, vaccines and diagnostics in the middle of a pandemic, the worst Public Health crisis that our country has faced in a century and decapitate the organization to move me over to a very small level project is not responsible. Didnt make sense. So the office of the special counsel is saying there are reasonable grounds to believe dr. Brights reassignment was, in fact, retaliatory. It recommends a 45day reinstatement while their investigation is continuing. Lets get into some of this. Joining me now, daniel lippman. These documents from the cdc, now, in fact, we learned the cdc documents had been approved and they were shelled by the highest nefls of the white house in february. Tell us about what you know. So there were some concerns inside the white house and the administration about whether they were overly prescriptive to churches, telling churches what they could and could not do and whether they would make it harder forebusinesses to reopen. But the ironic thing is that businesses need these recommendations, these guidelines, to actually reopen. So right after that ap report, the day after the white house ordered the cdc to get these documents approved, whoever linked it to the ap, you know, at the cdc, they kind of got what they wanted so we expect to see some of those documents get posted the next few days. Of course these businesses need it. You dont need to be an expert to know that these businesses need it. No one has ever been through a pandemic before and nobody wants to get sick or wants their patrons to get sick, either. That said, i want to talk about this recent politico piece on mark meadows on which you contributed, as well. What challenges here, as many as we can talk about in this time that we have, what challenges is meadows facing as the new chief of staff . Number one, President Trump doesnt like to be handled. Another one that we focused on is the Jared Kushner angle with jared, being trumps soninlaw and someone who he trusts implicitly, that they sometimes will clash a little bits early on with just any chief of staff because jared has his own power and he has worked closely to try to get equipment to the states and to hospitals. Remember those reports about how he was using volunteers that werent actually very qualified at getting that. And so i think meadows is trying to kind of manage the president because right now the polls are just not looking good, as we talked earlier. Well, with that, i say good luck. Daniel lippman, great to see ow this monday morning. Hope you join us again soon. Florida Health Officials releasing new data showing a spike in nursing home deaths related to covid19. They appear to have counted for more than 60 of the coronavirus deaths in florida in the last week. On friday, the Florida Department of health reported deaths at facilities marking a striking increase of 242 deaths from the prior weeks report. In this same time period, the states overall death toll increased by 401. Florida currently has nearly 41,000 covid19 cases confirmed and has reported over 1700 deaths. Meanwhile, weve got some grim new numbers showing avenue of new jerseys covid19 deaths are linked to Nursing Homes. There have been rates over the national rate. As of sunday, state records show nearly 15 Nursing Centers have reported deaths. The facility has been raf aemed by pandemics since march and now more than 60 of residents have contracted this disease. As of sunday, 72 deaths had been linked to the virus. About 20 of the staff is sick and one employee has died. So far, new jersey has reported over 140,000 confirmed cases and over 9200 deaths. 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Over the weekend, all bars and nightclub nightclubs in korea were shut just days after restrictions were lifted. According to a New York Times report, a south korean man who had tested positive for the virus last week had visited nightclubs the weekend before which left officials scrambling to contact 7,200 people who may have been exposed to this virus. So far, 27 cases have been found among club goers and people in contact with them, according to a Disease Control official. South koreas Health Minister said this, we cant sustain our society with our daily life and Economic Activities standing still but, unfortunately, we could not find a precedent for what we are actually trying to do. With that, lets get a check on your numbers with bill karins. Its tough, you know, this reopening process for so many countries across the world. Nobody really knows what its going to look like and how its going to go. The up side to what south korea is doing, they are actually keep the contacts of the all the people with these bars, these clubs. So if there is an outbreak like we are seeing now, this cluster, they are able to find everybody that was there and find out if theyre testing positive, as well. Not for sure if that is something that could happen here in the united states. Yeah. Legally or just even if its even possible with 330 Million People. Exactly. A lot of challenges. Lets get into some of these numbers. We had over 500,000 people tested over the weekend. And the good news is the fatalities were down over the weekend. As far as the number of cases went, we saw roughly around 20,000 reported on sunday and that was also the lowest since the end of march. So hopefully we can continue those numbers as we go throughout this week. Lets transition into the weather pattern that is going to change this week. So its still very chilly out there. Tulsa, 53 degrees is unheard of for this time of year. Chicago, 48 today. It will be another cold night tonight and then we start the transition. It will get warmer towards the end of this week. Look by that time we get to friday, philadelphia, 81 degrees. It will feel like a heat wave. Much of the country will have a big warmup by the end of this week. So, you know, its going to rain a little bit here and there, but et will warm up finally. Folks are ready for a heat wave, my friend. Thank you, bill. Great to see you today. We are back in a moment. These are extraordinary times, and we want to thank the Extraordinary People in the healthcare community, working to care for all of us. At novartis, we promise to do our part. As always, were doing everything we can to help keep cosentyx accessible and affordable. If you have any questions at all, call us, email us, visit us online. Were here to help support you when you need us. Take care, and be well. 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Well have a better fourth quarter. And next year is going to be a great year. Not sure everybody is as sure as they are as were hearing from mnuchin. April jobs report posted a massive 25 million jobs lost which is highlighted a struggling u. S. Workforce and some demographic getting hit harder than others. Karen cho is joining us live for this. Mmuchin is seeming fairley positive about the economy. Im not necessarily hearing that from other economic advisers for the rest of the karen, about women that are facing unemployment right now, as we are looking to some of these terrible numbers . What we know so far is that theres been a disproportionate impact on women. Its been called a shesession, a nod to the mansession around the Global Crisis. This term is being used by the ceo or chief executive for the institute of womens policy research. After the payroll data crossed friday, 50 of the jobs lost were held by women. 15 from 3. 1 in february. For men, it is tracking at 13 . A huge uturn from what we saw earlier in the year, and compared to december, where women had more payroll jobs than men. High transaction volumes means risk has been elevated for wall street banks. Typically, wall street participants try to offset potential losses. Some watching the bank say if volatility continues, youll see the assets reduced by some of the banks. Thats something well be watching very, very closely now. When it comes to Life Insurance, a hit from some americans who might be trying to protect loved ones in the worstcase scenario. What were hering is insurers are turning away business from some americans that might be seeking the Life Insurance policies. The reason why is the drop youve seen in interest rates. Typically, insurers invest the money from premiums to hlowris government bonds. The yield half of where it was at the start of this year. So there are not necessarily people being turned away because they can contract covid19 and theres no way to predict that . Its about reprising of risk. You saw it last time around the financial crisis. Insurers, banks, weighing up what the cost will be to offer policies or services for Financial Services and insurance. Typically, you have to cover the cost of offering the inthursura claims. If you cant get the money back in government bonds and lowrisk investments, you have a hard time paying it out down the track. Karen tso live from london. Thank you, as always. Great to see you today. Up next, a look at axios one big thing. Coming up on morning joe, a big show. 24,000 confirmed cases and 1300 related deaths. Ohio Governor Mike Dewine has been waging a tough battle against the coronavirus. Hes going to preview the states next steps to stop the spread and reopen their economy. Morning joe is moments away. j. K. Vo if youre off the roads for all of us, farmers is here for you. And if youre on the roads for us, well, were here for you, too. Welcome back, everybody. Joining me now with a look at axios am, the cofounder of a yoeaxios, mike allen. Good to see you. Talk to us about the one big thing today. Axios one big thing is mike pence on mike flynn. On friday, i hopped on air force 2, the same morning they discovered that one of their Staff Members had tested positive. We flew to iowa with Vice President pence. I had an interview with him there for axios on hbo. Knowing that President Trump had said he would consider bringing general Michael Flynn back into the administration, now that the Justice Department has moved to drop its charges against him, i asked mike pence, would you be fine with that . Why this matters, is that youll remember that lying to Vice President mike pence was one of the reasons the white house gave for firing mike flynn. Mike pence opened the door to that. He said that he clearly had been the victim of prosecutorial misconduct, and he said that he would welcome the idea of seeing Michael Flynn again, calling him a great patriot. In this interview for axios on hbo, which airs tonight on hbo, on all its platforms, 11 00 p. M. , well also talk to the Vice President about Wearing Masks in the white house. I also will ask him about the jobs report. Well, you cant tease me with that part and not give me the answer on as to whether or not the Vice President believes they should be Wearing Masks inside the white house, considering how many positive cases that weve heard emerging in the white house over the last couple of days. Yeah, i think you maybe just saw a photo of the Vice President which will give you his view of it. As you have seen, the white house has been very resistant to that idea. Now, as weve seen on the show this morning, you have people selfquarantining, missing meetings, testifying at hearings remotely, conducting hearings remotely. Its an example of how, even while the administration is trying to drive a reopening message, a were on the good side of this conserurve messag their own house, theyre having increasing troubles, including now the president and Vice President and a couple of their top aides being tested every day. A daily reminder, the coronavirus is in their house. And a daily reminder that tests are incredibly important. By the way, well be seeing more of this and talking more about this coming up a little bit later on morning joe, as well. Lets talk about another thing that axios is reporting on. Despite these unemployment numbers were seeing, a looming recession, possible depression here, you have investors and Money Managers still expecting the president to win the election in november. Talk us through this. Yes, so this is fascinating. Were calling this big money on trump. This is the lead of the axios markets newsletter today. You look at the polls, and joe biden is winning in swing states which, of course, are the polls that matter. Look at what Money Managers think, conversations on wall street. Look what online markets are saying. They both are still, by notable margins, margins that surprised me, expecting a trump victory. This is based on the idea that as states reopen, well see a quicker recovery than it feels. Let hope we do. I think everybody wants that. Amen. Mike allen, thank you. Have a great week. You can sign up for the newsletter you, too, my friend at signup. Axios. Com. That does it for me on this monday morning. Im yasmin vossoughian. Morning joe starts right now. I can tell you that i knew that he lied to me. And i know the president made the right decision with regard to him. The president has talked about bringing him back into the administration. Is that fine with you . I think general Michael Flynn is an american patriot, and he served this country with great distinction in uniform and now, i believe, a decision by the Justice Department lays bare what was clearly prosecutorial abuse. For my part, id be happy to see Michael Flynn again. Because you like working with people