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In fact, one that has revealed in sharp relief the political and security crises will inherit from his predecessor. President elect biden has his gaze fixed on the other crisis on the nation he set to lead. The staggering toll that the coronavirus has taken on this country and incomprehensive loss of human life brought on by the coronavirus pandemic. President elect bidens first stop, memorial for the more than 400,000 moms, dads, neighbors, and even children. The historic human tragedy thats certain to define his presidency remains president elect bidens central focus as the pomp and circumstance around his inauguration gets under way. Today, joe biden is arriving in a washington that appears very much to be on a war footing in the wake of the deadly insurrection just 13 days ago with 25,000 National Guard troops on alert amid ongoing fears of threats from the far right fringe of our politics. Overturn joe bidens indisputable and sizable victory. When he takes his place, he will not be greeted by donald trump. Hes the first president in more than a hundred years to boycott his successors inauguration, but none of that will stand in the way of what the institutions of our democracy, despite the beating theyve taken over the last four years have made inevitable. Joe biden has maintained since he declared victory in the election, the American People have spoken. Tomorrow at noon, he will be sworn in as our nations president , Kamala Harris, will be sworn in as Vice President and all the historic firsts shell usher in. The beginning of the end of Donald Trumps presidency is where we start today. The hours of special coverage. Friend and colleague, brian williams. That looks like the president elect is touching down there. Nicole, a pleasure to be with you as your wing person for the next two hours, which introduces a theme which takes us over to the staggeringly large tarmac and runways at the place you and i know well. The veterans call it Andrews Air Force base. Its modern name is the unromantic joint base andrews. This is a nondescript unmarked lease carrying joe biden and people will notice as it taxis in the foreground are aircraft from the president ial wing headquartered out at Andrews Air Force base and it forces us to say that this is joe bidens last flight for a good long while an any kind of private aircraft without markings on the side that read united state of america. Hell be flying a good deal out of this airport, which he knows well, of course, having flown in and out of here for so many years as Vice President , but as you referenced, weve seen him already today. His farewell to his adopted home state of delaware. An emotional appearance and were about to have an emotional empathetic irishman as president and were also about, during these two hours of live coverage, were about to witness, its unbelievable to realize, but its true, the First National remembrance, the first marking as a nation of the death toll, thus far, the lives lost from this coronavirus which have just, of course, gone over 400,000. Anyone that has been a Public Servant sees these as more than the planes that carry politicians. I mean, a hallmark of all of our president s of both Political Parties is to be humbled by traveling on these aircraft and to think that every plane that joe biden gets on after this one will be air force one. Thats always what they call the plane carrying an american president. It is such, its just impossible to ignore the long, long journey. I think we have some of the sound, brian, from his speech earlier today in delaware where he was overcome with emotion. Excuse the emotion, but when i die, delaware will be written on my heart. The hearts of all the bidens. We love you all. Youve been there for us in the good and the bad. You never walked away and i am proud, proud, proud, proud to be a son of delaware and i am even more proud to be standing here doing this from the major bo biden facility. Ladies and gentlemen, i only have one regret. Hes not here. Because we should be introducing him as president. Brian, i had to play that after you say were about to have a president again with the full range of public emotions. We used to write speeches for george w. Bush and sit there and take lines out if we thought they would make him cry but obviously, joe bidens going to take command of this country, a country that has experienced historic and unprecedented loss this year. Thats right. Its going to take some getting used to as public figures go, and of course, it will be triggered by the fact that it is such a fraught time. Look at the backdrop for joe biden finally reaching his lifes goal. Finally reaching the precipice, the peak of american politics after so many years trying, after so many years in public service. Good news, bad news. Look at what you have to inherit. For the first time, were going to have a president where the backdrop, the u. S. Capitol, had to be repaired from ransacking prior to an inaugural address. Thats something none of us will get used to over these 24 hours or ever. Well, he obviously also becomes the countrys commander in chief tomorrow, and its been reported that by our News Organization and others that theyve had to do an extra round of vetting of the National Guard troops there protecting these inaugural events themselves. Indeed. 12, a reported dozen members of the National Guard forces that measure now approximately 25,000, 12 of them have been removed from the mission, the dc mayor, mayor bowser said today that if its proven, they had dual loyalties of any kind, they should obviously be removed not just from the mission but from the guard. We see the air stairs brought to the front and rear of the aircraft, the safety barrier comes down, and well probably see various members of the press we know our place will be exiting from the rear. Well see various members of the biden family and entourage get off, including but not limited to joe and dr. Jill biden. Lets bring in to watch with us nbc news chief White House Correspondent Kristen Welker who is tracking and reporting on the outgoing and incoming administrations for us today. Kristen . Reporter well, nicole and brian, just picking off your conversation of contrasts, the contrast that we are going to see. This first event that president elect joe biden is going to be engaged with is this memorial for covid victims as you have highlighted and its remarkable, it is the first one this country will have to just pause and remember the lives lost and i think that it speaks to the fact that president elect biden is going to use these first days and weeks and months in office to really try to draw a sharp contrast with his predecessor. With President Trump. That begins right now and i think youre going to see that in his inaugural address tomorrow when hes going to talk about the need for unity and healing and then i think youre going to see that in the executive orders that hes going to pass. Among the first ones we are told to reverse President Trumps ban on traveling from muslim majority countries. Hes going to rejoin the paris climate agreement. Hes going to propose on day one, we are told, a sweeping immigration overhaul that will include a path to citizenship that will call for more border security, but not by building a wall. Through the use of improved technology. He has proposed a stimulus plan calling for additional payments to americans who are struggling. Thats already been met with some opposition, some republicans even, some democrats say its too expensive. Its too much. Its not practical to get passed through both chambers of congress, but again, i think that this is a president elect who is coming into office with the realization that he is facing not one, but multiple crises right now. The covid crises, the Economic Crises and now this National Security crises. So that is going to really set the tone, i think, for these early days of the biden agenda. Brian and nicole. Kristen, we are watching the door of the plane. The president elect and his family who traveled down with him to the nations capitol are all expected to deplane any moment. If we interrupt and listen in, thats what were watching for. Brian, im struck by how disciplined the transition has been. There were plenty of the interviews opportunities to pop off and get sucked into the morass of the ugliness going on. This is a team that Kristen Welker is working on the policy announcements, theyve been working on what they can accomplish by executive order on day one. They have been extremely disciplined in terms of tone. Vaccinating the nation and beating the pandemic is the president elects priority. The one notable leak i can think of over the past 7 to 14 Business Days was someone who leaked to the press joe bidens frustration that his covid team wasnt being aggressive enough in laying out the plan starting on day one. Thats obviously the kind of leak you want when youre about to take over an effort this big, this broad, but its not joe bidens style. Its certainly not incoming chief of staff ron clains style and just listening to both you and kristen, im so struck, nicole. It took a new president to lead the nation for the First Time Ever in a Group Remembrance of this death toll. More than that, it took a guy who is not yet president to arrive in washington, dc, because of the fierce urgency of that death toll for 400,000 souls. The sad urgency of that death toll. This will give people at least a chance to pause and mark it. And theres been a little bit of reporting, but when you talk to the Incoming White House staff and you say, how on earth are you going to bridge the partisan divide, curing every american of this pandemic, offering main streets across this country to get back on their street, that is the strategy of uniting the country and certainly, the vacuum thats being created by a president who refuses to acknowledge those incomprehensible numbers of lives lost and all the suffering will be filled just moments from now by the president elect. Our colleague Chris Jansing is live in the National Mall in front of the lincoln reflecting pool where the remembrance will take place. This is a story that you have experienced personally and covered brilliantly as you do everything. Thats the mood down there . Reporter i think the mood is very somber, and there has not been a somber moment, as you have pointed out, a National Moment for people to come together and remember the incredible number of people who have been lost and so behind me, the beautiful reflecting pool here in washington, dc. You see some of the 400 specially designed lights and just after sundown tonight, they will be lit up into columns. 400 lights. One for each of the thousand plus people in this country alone who have died so far from the coronavirus and they will not shine alone. There are places all around the country, cities, communities, tribal lands, where they will light many places too from the Empire State Building to the Seattle Space needle to the city hall in scranton, pennsylvania, where joe biden was born and raised. And stepping into a role thats not been filled by this president and that is consoler in chief. There is going to be a nurse from lavonia, michigan, whos going to sing Amazing Grace grace and you have to think about when president obama went to charleston after the mass shooting at the ame church and sang Amazing Grace. I think nicole, about george w. Bush when he stood with the mega phone in the middle of the rubble of 9 11 and how that comforted and also galvanized the country and ill never forget Ronald Reagan after the challenger disaster with the beautiful words about how the astronauts had slipped the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of god. Theres been nothing like that for families who have lost loved ones, people who have lost friends have heard and thats the intention tonight, to bring this country together. Joe bidens first public appearance since returning to washington and according to officials close to him, nicole and brian, that is intentional. Oh, gosh, just remembering all those moments and youre right, there has been no attempt to harness the collective grief and this is a grief that everyone has had to endure literally and figuratively in isolation. So this is a moment, i think, a lot of people, regardless of their political affiliation, theyve been waiting many, many months for. Joining our conversation, as we wait for the biden family to deplane on one side of the screen and well put that shot up again of where the president elect is heading to the mall for the First National memorial this country has had. 400,000 lives lost in the coronavirus pandemic and nothing like this, and brian and kristen and others reported. Lucky to be joined by phil rut ger at the Washington Post and former maryland congresswoman, Donna Edwards is here and former missouri senator clara mccast mccaskill. As we wait the president to deplane now called air force. Your thoughts . You know, its a really touchy moment here. One thing to point out. We saw president elect joe biden arrive at andrews in that unmarked plane. In the past couple of presidencies during transitions, the incoming president arrived on an air force plane. Same plane that could be used as air force one when they become president , part of the protocol in the peaceful transfer of power here. We have not seen that today. I dont exactly know why that is, if biden chose to fly on his plane or denied the opportunity to fly on the air force plane. But thats important to keep in mind. Also, talking about how theres not been a collective remembrance of the victims of covid. The problem has been even deeper than that this past year. Theres not been an acknowledgment of the victims of covid. President trump for months now has not been managing this pandemic virus. He has not held coronavirus briefings. He has not participated in any sort of public event and even when asked about the many victims of covid, he has reached for excuses for why he thinks those numbers might be inflated rather than offering empathy. The company has had an absence of leadership on the pandemic that appears biden on the eve of becoming president , its going to be moving quickly and with some empathy here. Clara mccaskill, such an important reminder and i think marks the daily war against the reality of the pandemic that donald trump and his white house have waged but such a good point. Starting at reality is not something weve had a chance to do until today. The moment that joe biden won this election, he started a master class in leadership. The discipline of this transition team, the prioritization of issues that matter to American Families and now for the First Time Since this deadly pandemic started, hes going to try to bind the nations wounds and thats a moment of unity in america. We have seen it before. All of us are grieving for Different Reasons over what has happened during this pandemic. To say nothing to the thousands of family members who have lost loved ones. What hes doing tonight is really showing america sympathetic kind of take a deep breath. Theres finally someone in charge that cares about them more than he cares about himself. And it is such a wonderful palate cleanser for america that this is happening tonight. No wonder his numbers are so high and donald trump behaving like a child, his numbers are so low right now. Donna, there was this feeling, i think, in covering the multiple crises that the pandemic, the racial reckoning and then the results in november. That an alternate reality had sprouted up. One where the up wasnt up and down wasnt down and along with healing the nation and binding our wounds, it seems like joe bidens mission is to sort of puncture those delusional false realities that the Trump White House tried to prop up around the pandemic, around the election, around other issues. Well, and i think, nicole, we watch and await joe biden and dr. Jill biden at andrews, were also reminded that one of the things joe biden has done very successfully during this transition period is to really, you know, with a very steady hand, mark every single day which has been, which means weve been able to see what were looking toward and i think today marks that end of the transition and tomorrow, the beginning of the transfer where we know that not only are we working on all of those policies that clare just outlined but where the nation will begin to put the round pegs back into the round holes and the square pegs back into the square holes and we havent been able to do that because donald trump created a reality that didnt match the moment. And we can return to some center of gravity and i cant believe how much my heart has been both filled and more relaxed than its been in four years because of joe biden. Brian . Phil rutger, i think you were on to something i noted when the aircraft arrived. This is unusual to be in unmarked charter 737 and first time that the president elect arrives in washington without the courtesy u. S. Air force jet and given your new title and stature at the post, given the fact im tied up, i expect you to report this while were on the air and figure out why that is. Well be on it, brian. The customs of the transition of power in this country have gone by the wayside because of the choices of departing President Trump. Normally after an election, the incoming president elect would come to the white house for a collegial get to know you. All of that deprived of the bidens from President Trump. There has not been any sort of communication that were aware of to biden. Theyll be staying at the blair house across the street from the white house and here they are coming off the plane. But again, it is not one of the air force planes that were used to seeing the president elect arrive in washington on. Nicole, as you point out, as weve said, as the extended biden crew gets off the plane and the andrews. Next time we see him climb into an aircraft, it will be air force one. As will be the designation, the call sign for any aircraft hes on now as president. The familiar confines of Andrews Air Force base. Another part of his life and your political life that hes very familiar with. Secret service. Theyve been a near constant presence in his life. There was a hard built facility for them at his home in delaware. Theyre not green because of the tent but bullet and bombproof and thats one of the tools of the trade. Its so remarkable listening to you and phil talk about the traditional view. But also, more of the collaboration between Outgoing White House and Incoming White House. With stories popping in phils paper and our news gathering organization at nbc news and the New York Times, seemingly every few hours about the security crisis that precipitated and endures after the insurrection at the capitol is just stubbing to me that far from the worst thing trump has done was to skip this ceremonial sort of image that has a peaceful transfer of power. That is a loss. Thats on donald trump. But to think of the Homeland Security crisis joe biden inherits at noon and to think there wasnt a meaningful transfer of power at the National Level and all these National Security agencies bordering on criminal. Look at the official schedule today. Last full day of the presidency. The broadcast last night, not a single cabinet member. We saw last week. Its been an incredible ending. A decidedly, ending on a whimper for the four years we have witnessed. Maybe a whimper and confetti pardons to wait and watch for at this point. Do we have any idea on timing . Ive heard early evening. Ive heard small hours of the morning and we are best reporting continues. More than 100 pardons, spent considerable time over the weekend with ivanka trump and Jared Kushner going over that list. Getting the pardon paper work in order. As for when it will land in the inboxes, we dont know. We do know there are only, what, 20 hours left in the trump presidency. Its going to come soon and the latest reporting weve heard, brian, is that hes not, the president is not expected to pardon himself. That is something he has been talking a lot about over the last few months with advisers. That, of course, could change with the last guidance weve been given is that hes not expected to preemptively pardon himself in this final batch or confetti explosion, as you put it, of pardons. And that is largely because, phil, of a fifth amendment privilege. Something he has talked and talked about in years past. His view that when individuals take the fifth amendment, of course, lawyers would caution us against this definition, to donald trump that implies instant and immediate guilt, its also the predicate for the lawyers advice too, correct . Thats exactly right. And pardoning himself before hes been accused of or charged with a crime. He believed could send a signal he might be guilty and also risk in doing so because remember, the feds could decide after he leaves office to investigate him and his incitement of the mob attack at the capitol on january 6th and if he were to try to preemptively pardon himself, theres a theory in trumps world, it might bait or dare the Justice Department to investigate him and see or test whether that pardon would hold up in court because, again, weve never seen a president pardon himself in this fashion preemptively. Look at that site. Motorcycles at the head, usually a combined force of dc metropolitan and Maryland State Police to get them to the state district line. This long line in the motorcade, which, of course, includes staff vans and at least one ambulance and communications vehicle. And so on and so on, will be some of the only traffic visible today across the major bridges into the district where nicole, theyve been quietly moving the perimeter in a concentric ring out and away from the capitol. And of course, as we say, theres reason for it. Its the first time the capitol has had to be repaired to act as the backdrop for an inauguration because of a ransacking and a looting. Its unbelievable and motorcade speak, this is a slow roll. Sometimes its to let stragglers jump in. Doesnt look like thats the occasion here. Looks like it might just be the size of this group. This motorcade. At this point, like a slow roll into the district. But youre right. I mean, this security picture is a direct result of what Mitch Mcconnell lies fed to them. He holds donald trump responsible. Everyone is looking for tea leaves in Mitch Mcconnells words, much more harsh when it comes to donald trump in the last 13 days. Theres a new yorker cover that has three wednesdays, insurrection, impeachment, inauguration and its just a remarkable three bookends. Three moments Kristen Welker with us and doing reporting on what it is. Youre absolutely right. We have seen condemnation from mcconnell from that attack against the capitol and phil rut ger talked about President Trump weighing whether to pardon himself, the concerns about what that might mean legally. There could be a political price to pay as well and that might be one of the reasons that he is at this point with Mitch Mcconnell and hes been quite clear, hes undecided on whether to vote to convict President Trump. Remember, all of this is taking place against the backdrop against a second impeachment trial that were anticipating is going to begin within the coming days if not weeks. So there is some concern that if President Trump were to do that, that he would send a message to Mitch Mcconnell that, yes, he would need to, in fact, move forward with conviction. So theres the political price. I can tell you that President Trump right now, huddling with his advisers on this final day. Hes been taking pictures, meeting with his chief of staff, meeting with Jared Kushner as he mulls these final pardons and were learning, remarkably, that Vice President mike pence will not be President Trumps sendoff tomorrow. Logistical element to this. But underscores there has been a break these two men, President Trump and mike pence, because of what happened on wednesday, january 6th at the capitol. The decision by the Vice President to attend the inauguration of joe biden to be on the side of aiming to have a peaceful transfer of power is a really significant break with President Trump. All the historic breaking norms, this is another one that will cap the trump presidency. That is remarkable. Were joined by our colleague joy reid. Im struck by two things as Kristen Welker empties out her very vast reporters notebook and shares news that mike pence will not attend Donald Trumps goingaway shin dig, for lack of a better word. Theres more reporting on whos not attending than who is attending and when you look at the choices that pence made in the last 13 days, im hit over the head by how incredibly low the bar is. By being against the insurrection, pence is compared to so normal compared to the last four years. And nicole, i think the people forget sometimes that before he was sort of the flunky side kick to donald trump, mike pence used to be a part of the body that was attacked. I can only imagine how personally he must have taken it as somebody who is a governmental republican, not an entertainment republican like donald trump is, and so i think what youre starting to see is the governmental republicans, you know, sort of quietly trying to reclaim their pardon. Thats difficult because they all went along with it. They were complicit with what donald trump did to the party and went along with it more or less eagerly because of the power that it got them but you are seeing that break and nicole, i was struck too by the people who donald trump presumed or apparently someone on his staff presumed would have attend, the scaramuccis or john bolton, thinking for a moment any of these people would come and the fact that the president of the United States who currently will be for another several hours is concerning himself more with a party with military festuning and with lady gaga turning him down but singing for joe biden and those are the things that are troubling him. With 400,000 laying dead from covid, its everything you need to know about donald trump and his presidency. You kind of buried the lead. You are fresh from an exclusive conversation with the speaker of the house who has been through some things to use Trump White House. Tell us about that conversation. Absolutely. And speaker nancy pelosi, you know, you think about the history that shes lived through. We talk a little bit about the fact that her dad was a member of congress. Served in the United States congress during world war ii. So she has a love and reverence for that capitol. Being inside that capitol, physically being inside the building, i got goose bumps the entire time. I was both enraged thinking about the misuse and the disrespect that was brought on that beautiful, physically beautiful but really sacred space by people who she pointed out, she was really angry about this. She talked about the fact that these people urinated and defecated inside that beautiful place. She showed us statuary hall and pointed to the rosa parks statue where members of the National Guard were taking pictures posing. Africanamerican members because they wanted to be there. She talked about knowing these parts and talking about how she spoke with her about the fact that they wanted to memorialize her and her saying she wants to be ceded. And you could see her anger at the misuse and the abuse of the office of president and the misuse and the abuse of the congress. This is someone who is an institutionalist. But it was also, you know, a human being. And i think just as a person, i think that Speaker Pelosi was just angry and done with him and ready for him to go. She talked about donald trump as a disgrace, the capitol being a home grown terrorist attack and shes not ready to just let that go. Shes not ready to let that go. Joys broadcast will have the interview tonight at 7 00 eastern, of course. We dont want to give away too much, but i am told we have a snippet from your conversation. Well discuss on the other side. Hes not going to greet the incoming president , which may be appropriate since he tried to undo the election but have for the first time in our history something other than a peaceful transfer of power. What does that mean for us at large . I think were bigger than all of this. Donald trump was a stain on our country. I dont think we could have sustained our democracy if he had two terms in office for what he was doing to our institutions or what he was doing to our constitution. He dishonored it. In every respect, was unworthy to be president. Did not respect the office that he held and certainly did not respect the rest of us as well. I respect the office of presidency, of the president more than he did for how he mistreated it. And any event, hes gone. We have to, how can i say, its not Lessons Learned because it was so evident all along, what a disgrace he was, but to find out how we can bring people together. Thats our responsibility and again, nobody better than joe biden and Kamala Harris to do that. To our audience, the entire interview airs tonight. 10 00 eastern time on this network. Joy, so many things that occur watching that. That number one, just the grand surroundings. We can be thankful they didnt find all of it during their rampage. We can be grateful that defenses held for at least part of the capitol but what a magnificent setting for your conversation and to the point the speaker was making, its still bracing to hear her say that and our friends say we came close, as a country. Yeah. Well, indeed, brian. And when you look at the physical manifestations of American Power and sort of american greatness, right, as people like my parents who emigrated to this country in the 1960s revered it and you see it desecrated utterly by our own citizens. Not a foreign army but the army of the president of the United States supporters. That hurts. You know . And i think you could see it in what the speaker was saying and the full interview, she really goes into depth about the costs of what we saw on january 6th, how we have to try to rebuild and the challenge that joe biden is clearly going to face trying to unify a country that would come to this. Nicole, that point, i dont think is made often enough. This was obviously on our soil. Obviously, the seat of our government. Its hard to look at that dome with the afternoon sun shining off of it and not think of Abraham Lincolns arrival, a moment so many lawmakers and historians talk about, where it was thought at first, we really had to concentrate on the war effort. The dome can wait and lincoln said no, lets finish the dome and make it a beautiful gleaming capitol. This wasnt al qaeda. This was al from upstate new york. This was al from arkansas, california, california. These were our fellow americans. So whipped up and frothed up that, look what they almost took down. Well, and we should not shave off the sharp edges of this. The insurrectionists sought to turn the capitol into the towers. They were attacking a symbol of american democracy because donald trump sent them there and because he told them two months before the election was even had, when he got a sober look at the polls that if he lost, it would be because of fraud. He spent six months sewing distrust. His allies in the media and its not just fox news anymore, repeated those lies. So this attack on the capitol hill, on the country, was seeded by donald trump and i think this fight against disinformation and radicalized americans is akin to a post 9 11 fight against radicalized Foreign Terrorists and i think the challenge and our legal code will be illuminated by our friends who are legal experts but i think the leadership challenge is one that, at this point, all we know is joe biden plans the attack the virus and heal every american. That is one of his pillars for bringing the country together. But i think that, i hope that there is a private plan to aggressively combat disinformation. Former president obama writes about it searingly in his book. I remember you and i, joy, watched the Democratic Convention in the speech that former president obama gave was dripping with the pain that nancy pelosi really revealed, i think, to joy reid, about someone who didnt respect the office of presidency and what nancy pelosi said probably to our joy is what National Security officials who served democrats and republicans who would only say privately over the last now years, we wont make it eight years. We wouldnt have a country if hed been there four more years. What we have to understand, why do the insurrectionists and people who share their ideology, why do they want that outcome . Joy reid, to pelosis point that we knew it in realtime. To pelosis point that i showed more respect for the office of the presidency than the president did, remember, four years ago, institutionalists was a swear word. Its kind of floated back into our lexicon as a calming term now. Yeah. Indeed. And if you, brian, if you walk around dc right now and see those troops, you know, god bless them for being there, you understand instantly that no foreign power is going to ever take down the United States. The amount of force and power that we have in our military would make it impossible for that to happen. It can only happen from within and a group of americans decided they would try to do that. Not because there was some real genuine threat, but because they wanted to be the threat. They did not accept that people who look like me, people who are black, brown, people who are indigenous, people who are democrats period, should not have the right to decide who the president is, and that if they didnt get their way, their petulance would not be expressed in tweets. Their petulance would be expressed by defecating, literally, inside of statuary hall. Where Andrew Johnson. Speaker pelosi pointed out that statuary hall used to be where the chamber of congress was. So you figure, Andrew Johnson tried to stop the 13th and 14th amendments to end slavery. Every reconstruction act and had to be overridden in statuary hall because they used to vote. Even Andrew Johnson supported the union. One of the worst president s. And even he was more of an american president and he was one of the worst president s, if not the worst president except for when donald trump came along, even he had more reverence for the union staying together than donald trump. Donald trump is essentially the confederacys last stand and so are his supporters. How do you undo that . Its like the civil war was just paused but not ended, and donald trump from queens, new york, decided he was going to make its last stand. Nobody outside is going to beat those troops. Go see that. Its a lockdown. And no one who wants to try it is going to succeed down there. In dc right now, its the people from within we have to worry about. Thats the people we have to fear and thats a shame. Its a shame and as weve been discussing, its a shame that the nations capitol is fortified as it is. On high alert today filled with tens of thousands of National Guard troops ahead of the inauguration that will look like none other. Not just because of the pandemic and the masks but the ongoing threat weve been discussing from farright extremists, excited by the president who refuses to concede and accept he lost this election fair and square. Roughly a dozen National Guard members asked to leave because of appropriate statements and then vetting by the fbi. Remove threats from within, the fbi is reportedly raising concerns that qanon supporters may impersonate National Guard members. The fbi privately warned Law Enforcement agencies monday that farright extremists have discussed posing as National Guard members in washington and others reviewed maps of vulnerable spots in the city. Signs of potential efforts to disrupts wednesdays inauguration. This as a wave of new reporting paints a stark picture of the National Security crisis joe biden is set to inherit from donald trump. New york times reports that the pentagon is stepping up efforts to root out White Supremacists in its ranks as investigators have found that at least six people involved in the attack on the capitol had ties to the military. Meanwhile, the massive federal investigation into the insurrection, which has led to over a hundred arrests so far, is reportedly focused on organized militia groups who may have coordinated the attack on the capitol and may be planning for more violence in the coming days. Were also learning new details about why Capitol Police were so unprepared for the insurrectionists that day. The former house sergeant at arms saying he declined a request for troops ahead of january 6th over concerns about how it would look for congressional leaders. A friend of irvings who spoke at his request telling the post, quote, theres a reality there. The leaders of the house and senate dont want the military up there. They dont want to show they cant control their own turf. Joining our conversation, develin barrett who focuses on National Security and Law Enforcement. Author of the book october surprise how the fbi tried to save itself and crashed an election. Develin, you and your colleagues have new reporting were talking about. What is the current state into the investigation into the folks now tasked with protecting the inauguration . Well, one of the Amazing Things about the investigation into the mob at the capitol is youre seeing the investigation play out hour to hour, day to day in these Court Filings because the fbi is so focused on getting the folks they think are most dangerous off the street because obviously, theres a concern that anyone whos on the street who committed serious acts of violence a couple of weeks ago could do so on inauguration day. And so youre finding in these filings and theres new ones in the last few hours that are incredible that talk about internal communications theyve picked up of some of these socalled militia members saying to each other, weve got 30 or 40 people. Were sticking with the plan. Were inside and were going forward. So were seeing piece by piece, a picture of how these folks prepared for this event, executed a game plan for this event and then continued the conversations and the coordination after the event. Develin, i want to read something that may suggest one of the new fronts for the Biden Administration. The director of National Intelligence, the nominee, said if confirmed, she will work with the fbi and dhs to provide a public threat assessment on qanon. There are elected officials who associate themselves with qanon. Donald trump refused to condemn them. Theyre crazy. They advocate conspiracy theories that are totally detached from reality and it would appear that the incoming director of National Intelligence views them as a threat toright. And qanon isnt really an organization. Its an idea. Its a sort of perpetual Conspiracy Theory machine that pumps out new conspiracy theories on a nearly daily basis. And obviously, some people have latched on to those conspiracy theories and taken them to dangerous, violent extremes, part of which is what we saw on january 6th. In congress. And so, theres a great concern about what do we do with people who are told these lies, are told these nightmare scenarios, and believe them, and then try to act in the real world to prevent them or stop, you know, whatever Conspiracy Theory it is theyve come to believe . Thats a tough nut to crack, but its an important one because look what just happened. People are willing to act on this stuff. Devlin, its brian. It seems to me this threat of insider action is twopronged and one of two things. There is the possibility of a qleaning guardsman or woman, number one, and number two, someone trying to impersonate a member of the guard. The latter would be very difficult from just the kit they wear to markings to their bearing, demeanor, how they address others, how they answer questions, especially now that the ranks are being so thoroughly vetted. Yeah, i mean, look, the qanon Conspiracy Theory of, well, someone could go and pretend to be a National Guardsman and sneak in, that sounds a little bit more like a tv show and not necessarily a good tv show. But this Insider Threat is a different question, and i think when you see the number of exmilitary and exLaw Enforcement involved in the violence and congress, there is a much greater concern now among the ranks. Do we have a problem here . Is anyone here, you know, radicalized to the extent that they might do something . Thats a real worry that they have to worry about that in a way they havent had to before. Its a terrifying state of affairs. Devlin barrett, thank you for spending time with us. Claire and donna, im thinking of both of you. Claire, your time on the Homeland Security committee, donna, your time and your service. Is there an appropriate historical parallel for a crisis like this one . There isnt a historic there is no parallel. This is completely and totally different. Now, i will say that over the years, beginning with Oklahoma City bombing, and once again ramped up after some of the massive shootings, especially of the people at the church, we have talked about Homeland Security in the context of domestic terrorists, but over the last four years, the chairman of the Homeland Security committee in the senate, every time i would push to talk about that more, to do a series of hearings, to talk about the real threats, because we knew more people were dying at the hands of these rightwing extremists than of any Foreign Terrorists that were out and about. The chairman of that committee, all he wanted to talk about was hillarys emails. Now we have a new chairman. Now, the danger signal were already seeing is they had a confirmation hearing today for the new director of Homeland Security and none other than josh hawley has already said that he wants to object and slow down his confirmation. At this moment, when we are struggling with this fight from within our own country, for people who want to do serious damage to our democracy and to hurt people, it is very its unnerving that you would have this same guy who was all down for the lies challenging the election that brought about the domestic terrorists in our capital, that now hes all down for slowing down the confirmation of the leader of the department that needs to be taking a look at it. Lets drill down a little bit, claire. I mean, the heinous hypocrisy of republicans who would stop at nothing to root out the threat of Foreign Terrorists, who wont even call this what it is, and i understand nbc news is reporting that the biden National Security council is going to focus on domestic violent extremism. That is precisely what republican sort of policy orthodoxy used to describe the radicalization of adherents to radical islam. The fact that they wont apply it because theyre afraid they might lose some votes in a republican primary is a disgrace. How do you get past that . Well, i dont think that the Republican Party is getting past it. I think youre seeing some cracks in the foundation. I guess better late than never for Mitch Mcconnell, speaking out today about the lies, and certainly pence, rejecting the lets go pretend like everybodys excited about donald trump celebration tomorrow morning, him saying, im not going to go. They are now struggling to make sure that a qanon advocate is not their nominee for the United States senate in various states in two years or even worse their nominee for president in four years. They know this is not a path to success in our democracy, and the president is making it worse by his behavior every day. Hes making it worse. You know, donna, claire brings up a good point. Trump will no longer be the story and he wont be central to any of the goingson in our country, thank god. But he will still have the power to incite, and this countrys National Security apparatus over democratic and republican administrations has taken the incitement and the radicalization of those who represent a threat to our country very, very seriously. How do we deal with the ongoing threat of incitement from donald trump and his allies . Well, i mean, i think youre right, nicole, and just because donald trump is removed from the white house, does not mean hes going to be removed from the national conversation. He will try to insert himself. He will continue to, in whatever way he can, from the money that he has raised to the people hes in contact with, and i think that it raises a question, a serious one, about what information is shared with donald trump. I dont think that he should be having any security briefings whatsoever, but weve also seen the warnings, really, for the better part of this decade and certainly the last four years of this growing level of white extremists in the country. And weve not really heeded that warning, and especially over these last four years, and unfortunately for the Republican Party, it isnt just that those are outside influences of the party. They are now deeply embedding themselves into the Republican Party. Already we see members elected into the house of representatives who are who share these conspiracy theories and this attachment to this legion of extremists. I think its very worrisome. I think not only do our Law Enforcement and military have to root it out, but through the ranks of the capitol hill police, we have to root it out. And certainly through the ranks of the Republican Party. And i think that donald trump is going to figure out every way and any way that he can continue to engage, and i think the press is going to have to be, you know, mindful of that and say, you know what . We are not going to cover every single word that is emitted, emoted from donald trump, the former president. Amen. But that is his lasting legacy, everything you just said, Donna Edwards. Along with an incomprehensible loss of life due to the coronavirus. And while we wait for todays memorial to begin on the part of the incoming president , heres a brief thought ahead of that event. He was a custodian studying at the university where he worked. He died 20 credits shy of graduation. They met on a blind date as teenagers and they passed on the same day. It was their 67th wedding anniversary. She was over the moon about having a second baby, but she was put on a ventilator after a csection and died before she could meet her newborn. They were teachers, healthcare workers. They were parents. They were children too. These are the faces of covid. These are the faces of lives well lived. Over the past nine months, we have done our very best, our small part to share with you their stories, because as we say here so often, they were more than names on a page. More than an obit. They were 400,000 americans, every single one of them the center of someones world, every single one of them with plans, accomplishments, people who loved them. Youve likely already seen some of the images from washington today. The field of flags, its called. Its haunting. Its breathtaking. Its an illustration so powerful in its sheer scope, but consider they managed to fit 200,000 flags on the National Mall, and that is only half the number of americans who have died so far. Next hour in our nations capital, president elect joe biden and Vice President elect Kamala Harris will lead what is essentially a National Moment of grief. So lets watch it together for the victims, for their families. We owe them that much at least, because as weve said, they were more than just names on a page. Brian . It is exactly 5 00 p. M. Eastern time as we look at the endless field of american flags signifying that indeed we are a nation laid low. We have witnessed 24 million cases of coronavirus in what is still an uncontrolled pandemic. We have witnessed the loss of 400,000 of our fellow souls, humans who were alive and breathing and with us at some point during the year 2020, not with us anymore during the year 2021. It is an extraordinary time for a new man to be taking over this office. What an extraordinary challenge. What a sad backdrop. And while tomorrow will have its moments of triumph and happiness, the backdrop will never be far from joe bidens thoughts or his vast team that theyve assembled in the headquarters of wilmington, delaware, a team that by tomorrow will stretch across the river to the pentagon, stretch to all the cabinet departments as they put out their tentacles and start seeing what the challenges are. Joe biden will correct some of the policies weve witnessed over these four years with the stroke of a pen, upwards of a dozen executive orders, executive orders cant do everything. They cant reverse or erase everything, but in terms of things like border walls and muslim bans, they can go a long way toward the signal, nicole, not rest of the world that has watched our country, the beacon of democracy, recede on the world stage. A lot of our allies have not known what to make of us. Make no mistake. Theyll be watching tomorrow. I think thats right. And i think for our allies and our adversaries, there was i dont know how to put it. Kind of like nancy pelosi, you search for the right words to not sand off the edges but there was constant moving of where the bottom was. I remember once in 2017, saying, the bottoms calling it wants to know if were there yet. Little did i know we had eons and eons of distance to travel to get to the bottom. But when you start with grabbing women in the bleep and you end with cheering on an insurrection against your own Vice President and the capitol, the word erasure is the right word, brian. I mean, there is debasement of the office of the presidency that joe biden will erase simply by his life and his values. And there is erasure of the divisions that joe biden has said he is committed to trying to erase, and there is erasing this pandemic, which is also one of his stated goals. But i think joe biden has been underestimated at every point of this run for the white house. I think if you go back to when we were covering those early nights in the primary and he was counted out by republicans and democrats alike, and it really wasnt an unlikely and a steely march to the nomination, and then to the presidency in this unprecedented time of a pandemic and a president not rooted in any reality, not fighting fair by any standard, so i think our allies are probably relieved that something resembling normal is about to come back to america, but i think there are a lot of open questions about how reliable america will be in the long run, whether this strain of trumpism is something that could resurge in four years or not. And i think that when you say the world is watching, thats probably an understatement, brian. While youve been talking, nicole, weve been looking at these scenes in washington, really alternating between a kind of stark militarism and the beauty of our capital city, the golden hour has arrived so that beautiful sun glow against the capitol dome, that beautiful glow on the Washington Monument, this is the view from the lincoln memorial, the same view dr. King looked out upon. You see the difference in the stone where the construction of the Washington Monument had to be halted during the civil war. You see the dome and the front of the capitol building, which meant Something Different just a few days ago. It was the location of an insurrection, a riot by american citizens. But right now, a peaceful night in large part because the capitol is locked down. This is the view well be seeing tomorrow. This is from behind the stage. Note the very limited seating for the audience, a recognition of our uncontrolled pandemic. There is the lectern in the center. There are the bulletproof shields around it. All the vips will be seated behind that position. We have a i believe we have chris out on the Washington Mall who can speak to the extent to which this lockdown exists, and chris, you and i have both covered inaugurations. This is normally such a secure but exciting time to arrive in washington, d. C. , every hotel has special decorations and usually a gift for you in the room as you arrive no matter what your party, no matter who your candidate. Reporter you know, the only person i saw in my hotel, brian, besides media were members of the National Guard. That is the majority of people, National Guard, police, tsa agents today. Its almost eerie to be out on the mall where we would normally see people jogging, riding their bikes, even in cold weather like this. It was very sunny today. But what were about to witness, i think, is going to be a very powerful moment, and its going to be heavily symbolic. The first person youre going to hear from is the catholic archbishop of washington, cardinal gregory. He is the first black cardinal in the United States, and of course, joe biden, a lifelong catholic. And in a place of honor, were going to hear from the president elect. Were going to hear from the Vice President elect. But in the place of honor is going to be a nurse, laurie key. She will be introduced by Kamala Harris. She will sing Amazing Grace, the song that went viral that she sang at a shift change at her hospital in michigan to lift the spirits of everyone who were working fulltime only with Covid Patients and then she will introduce the president elect. And i think the message here is very clear for everyone who has lost a loved one. We know. We understand. I was thinking again about when george w. Bush was standing in the middle of the rubble of 9 11 and said, i can hear you. Joe bidens message is going to be, i can hear you. I can feel your pain. We recognize you. Those 400,000 people, many of whom died alone, died without a loved one sitting by their bedside to hold their hand, we remember you, and we honor you. And i think theres a second part, always, when you have these moments, these iconic moments of healing that are led by president s, and that is that its about trust. Its about empathy, but its also about common purpose that we can move forward, that together, as we all watch this as one, we can get to a better place, and to that end, after those 400 columns of light are lit, representing those 400,000 people who were lost, the inaugural committee is asking people across america, much in the way they got out of their windows and applauded for people at 7 00 in the afternoon during the beginning of the pandemic for those frontline workers, theyre asking them to light a candle in their window or to ring a bell because church bells will be rung all across america to send that message to all those people who lost loved ones. We hear you. We feel you. Youre not alone. Brian . Chris on the mall as an aircraft goes overhead. Again, stark scenes. Chris is so right, on a night like this, normally, despite the cold weather, people would be out and about and what is such an outdoor city, nicole, and it is stark right now. Yeah, i mean, you were talking about how beautiful it is, and there is something magical about the colors in d. C. At this hour, and youre right, its what the sun looks like against those monuments. Its just not repeated in many places on the planet. But theres something tragic about the city having to look like this, having to be so empty, between the pandemic and the security situation, it is probably a terrifying moment if you live in washington, d. C. , whether you work in the government or not. Your city is on lockdown. So, i think its just this clash of emotions that president elect biden is going to be the first politician to try to and begin to let americans process. Joining us, brian, msnbc political analyst, former u. S. Senator claire mccaskill, our friend peter baker, New York Times chief White House Correspondent, also joining us, basil smikle and our friend joy is still with us. Claire, there is so much here to joe biden simply letting people feel the loss. As i look at these pictures, first of all, i have an incredible sadness about how empty washington is right now. As someone who was on that podium that you just pictured a few moments ago for the last three inaugurals, even when donald trump got inaugurated, there was something that is calming about the crowds that gather to celebrate the election of a new president and also the peaceful transfer of power. The irony is, we have a president who began his presidency with the big lie about his crowds, and a president who has been fixated on the size of crowds more than the deaths of americans. The size of his crowds and the ratings on tv, way more concerned about that than what is happening to americans in terms of this pandemic and other crises they face. So, how ironic that joe biden is going to have a very powerful moment with no crowd. With no crowd whatsoever. Americas going to look at this. Theyre going to understand why people arent there. Theyre going to want to lift up and support this new president , and theyre going to say, shame on President Trump for his part in emptying out the city that should be full of joyous people right now. Well, thats such a good point, of course. Basil, you and i have had so many conversations. I think its almost exactly a year since the First American covid case was identified, and weve youve come to us and weve talked about donald trump wanting to keep people in cruise ships off at sea so our numbers didnt go up. Weve talked about that was one of the earliest stories we covered. But this was never a story for you. Youve always let us know how personal it is for you. What are your thoughts tonight . Right. Well, youre right, you know, there are 12 people that i knew that passed away from the illness and i was just reflecting earlier about my the church i grew up in, st. Lukes Episcopal Church lost 21 members, including a gentleman named donald, who, you know, used to mentor so many of us when i was an acolyte in that church as a child. So you know, during times like this, what im thinking about, im thinking about all the elderly that feel isolated. I think about all the children in schools that are, you know, going to be a year or two years behind in their academic progress. I think about all of the folks who are downcast and despondent at this moment in time because they feel as though the selfcare that they would normally engage in, even just going to buy a pair of shoes or going for a drink of wine, theyll say, why bother, because i cant go anywhere. And so, all of these things, i think, the combined effect of this has really sort of dampened our spirits as a country, and as we are on the verge of a new president and new administration, i just hope that its a clarion call to all of us to make sure we lift each other up because there are going to be people who cant express how they feel right now but its important to take a moment to ask, how are you . How you doing . What can i do to help . And if for no other reason and at no other moment in time, i think this is the window that we have to check on everybody, check on your neighbor, check on your family and friends and lift them up. I mean, basil, i think you just said the most important thing ive heard in many, many days. Were having a crisis of Mental Wellness in this country. And thats right. Its from disconnection. Its from despair. Its from fear. Fear of a pandemic. Fear of political violence, which is at a point it hasnt been in most of our lifetimes. Right. What do you i mean, so much of what biden is doing is what chris encapsulated in just seeing us, seeing us as the country we are. What do you need to hear tonight . I just need to hear you know, there are messages of empathy that i think, you know, have come through so much in the last year and change of this campaign. I just want to i just want someone that can bring the temperature down a little bit and cut through noise and say, you know what, we got you, as a government, as an administration, we got you. You know, theres there is there are so many times when i think people do, to your point earlier, feel so, you know, like everyones against them, that nobodys for them, and i think thats what the Biden Administration can certainly do in this moment. We are for you. Dont pit people against each other, but we, as a nation, are for you, our residents, our citizens, our visitors. This is your government. Peter baker, im looking at these beautiful, stark pictures of the city where you live that you have covered for so many years, and im thinking that as pierre laid it out so many years ago, he did so as a public city. He did so in these very basic, straight lines, geometric patterns. They were meant to be public places, just as they are when we have a change of power. When you think about it, George Washington got the naming rights to the place, and they added a monument just to put it over the top. Lincoln, jefferson have memorials, a towering dr. King to match his presence when he walked among us. There will be no memorial to this age we have just survived. Were going to witness here in a few minutes is the only thing that we have had that passes for a living memorial of the tragedy weve just lived through. Well, brian, youre exactly right. You know, i was born and raised in the washington area. Ive lived basically my whole life here except for a small stint overseas. I covered my first inauguration was reagans second in 1985. I was a junior kid. My job was to write the side bar on what would be closed for the holiday, the Liquor Stores and the libraries and the, you know, dmv. And here, you know, every inauguration from that time forward, i think, until this one, has been a period in washington of change, of freshness, even when youre renewing an administration for another term, there was a sense of possibility, the idea that we were giving a fresh start, we were trying something new that we could hope that the next four years would bring us something that the last might not have. And i think that this time, it feels so unsettled. To drive around this city, to see the troops on the streets and the jersey barriers that are, you know, surrounding so much of the downtown, to feel the tension in the air, the sadness over those who weve lost, its a very unsettled moment, and i think that is such a huge challenge for any new president , and this one in particular. I think that, you know, as senator mccaskill said sorry, as claire said, she recalled george w. Bush. I think every president , republican or democrat, confronted with tragedy and crisis in their time has reacted in ways that we are seeing president elect biden do, in which you sort of pay tribute to those weve lost, you try to channel the feelings of grief, and yet provide a sense of optimism to a dark moment. And i think you saw it with President Trumps video today, he gets the optimism part. He gets the part where we are great and we will do better things, but he doesnt connect, i think. And i think that one of the things that people were missing in these last 12 months with this pandemic is the sense that the president of the United States understood how much people were hurting. And how difficult this has been for so many people. Now, whether president elect biden is able to channel that to better purposes, well see. Its going to be the defining challenge, i think, of his presidency. But youre right. This is a moment worth reflection and it is a moment worth thinking about where we are as a country and how we go forward. I think joy reid wanted to join our conversation. Joy . Yeah. Yes, sorry. Thank you, brian. You know, i guess my question would be for really for claire and basil as well. You know, im looking at these pictures along with you, brian and nicole, and all of us, and the capitol is a beautiful place, obviously, constructed largely by enslaved labor, and you know, just to you first, claire, i mean, i attended the 2008 inauguration, and there was just this sense of sort of joy and almost sort of shocking joy that, you know, this country in which slavery was so endemic had elected this black man as president. There was this sort of collective joy that was a part of that inaugural. This time, as chris pointed out, the witnesses to the inauguration of joe biden will be silent. Theyll be those 400 columns of light representing the 400,000 dead of covid. It will be those flags that are waving silently in a very small crowd. And coming after a president who so desperately needed crowds and thats all he cared about. I wonder if, claire, you could first put in perspective for us about what happens in the institutions that are represented by that capitol and the United States senate that you love so much and served in. Biden is a man of the senate as well. Hes a man of this world, this political world. How does he repair the sense that the senate is a place that even is relevant to moving our country forward when inside of that very senate are some of the people who cat called and encouraged that mob as much as donald trump did. You know, how can biden even begin with all of those challenges ahead of him . It will be hard. Hes going to try to do it through the men and women in the senate that he knows well, that he worked with. Hes invited Mitch Mcconnell to go to church with him in the morning and frankly, when i think back to the 2008 inaugural, it was that Church Service. I was one of the cochairmans of the inaugural and so i was invited to that Church Service and its that moment i remember so vividly, because the church was full of both democrats and republicans praying together. Even though its not a very big church for those of you that have been in the Historic Church directly across from the white house that was part of the president s phony photo op with the bible held upside down. So, i think hes hoping that Mitch Mcconnell will work with him. I think it remains to be seen. Theres a lot of skepticism among senators as to whether or not they can get back to trying to find common ground, but i will say this. The senate is shaken. I think everyone in congress is shaken by what happened, and as the video has come out day after day and you see the kind you know, people saying, oh, ted cruz would be okay with us rifling through their desks, hes on our side. Name checking cruz and hawley, telling the police officers, were here because your boss told us to come, that that has, i think, gotten the attention of some of the republicans who have been so guilty of hiding in cowardice while the president lied incessantly about things that really mattered to this country. Basil, theyre not chastened, it seems. Were going into a Senate Session in which the same josh hawley who was name checked, as claire just said, on the floor of the invaded capitol as these people rifled through the papers of members of congress with absolutely no respect for where they were standing whatsoever, that same josh hawley used today to object to the Latino Department of Homeland Security leader that joe biden selected, right . Thats that was what he decided to do with his day. So, it doesnt feel like the republicans are the least bit chastened and not even embarrassed about immediately going after, you know, the brown nominee, you know . And saying its right, right. Saying its specifically because of, you know, caravans and, you know, all of that coded racist language about daca. So, where do we go from here . Democrats are going to want to fight those people, not unite with them. Yeah, and you know what . Well, actually, i would im not so sure. I mean, there are some democrats that probably will say, you know what, we need to work across the aisle, we need to but there is no working across the aisle with those folks. These are folks who are bent on upholding the, i guess, ideology of a group of people who feel that theyre losing power in this country because of the black and browning of this country. And so, you know, there is no there the is no working together. We have to get them out of office. Our beloved nation reverently pauses in supplication to remember and to pray for the many thousands of people who have died from the coronavirus during this past year. We turn to the lord of all to receive these, our sisters and brothers, into eternal peace and to comfort all those who grieve the loss of a loved one. This virus, more than taking the lives of too many of our citizens, as well as people around the globe, has left in its wake a sobering awareness that we are all united in the sorrow that we recognize today. We pray for those who have died and the families and loved ones that they left behind. We do not we do so not as strangers or disinterested persons but as fellow citizens who share some limited portion of their grief and sorrow. We pray for the countless families and relatives who had to surrender their loved ones without the comfort and the consolation of a familiar funeral ritual, according to their religious traditions or selections. That privation only added to the sadness engendered by the death of a friend, a relative, or a colleague. May our prayer this evening serve as a small expression of our National Desire to comfort and strengthen those who have endured the loss of a loved one to this pandemic, and may it be a resounding gesture of gratitude for all those who have cared for the victims of this virus and their loved ones. Our sorrow unites us to one another as a single people with compassionate hearts. May our prayer strengthen our awareness of our common humanity and our National Unity at a time when harmony is a balm that seeks to comfort and strengthen us as a single people, facing a Common Threat that is no respecter of age, race, culture, or gender. Let us, with one heart, commend those who have died from this virus and all of their loved ones to the providential care of the one who is the ultimate source of peace, unity, and concord. Amen. Thank you, cardinal gregory, for that beautiful prayer. We gather tonight, a nation in mourning, to pay tribute to the lives we have lost, a grandmother or grandfather who was our whole world, a parent, partner, sibling, or friend who we still cannot accept is no longer here. And for many months, we have grieved by ourselves. Tonight, we grieve and begin healing together. Though we may be physically separated, we, the American People, are united in spirit. And my abiding hope, my abiding prayer, is that we emerge from this ordeal with a new wisdom, to cherish simple moments, to imagine new possibilities, and to open our hearts just a little bit more to one another. It is now my great honor to introduce lori marie key. Lori is a nurse at st. Mary mercy livonia hospital outside of detroit. Her community was hit hard when the virus struck, and lori was assigned to the covid unit. Lori is known for singing on the hospital floor, and a video of her singing a certain hymn inspired our nation. She joins us this evening to honor those we have lost with that same hymn. Amazing grace. Thank you so much, Vice President elect harris. It is an honor to be here with you and with president elect biden. Working as a covid nurse was heartbreaking. Its heartbreaking for the patients who are sick. It was heartbreaking for the families who couldnt be there with them. And it was heartbreaking for those caring for them. But when im at work, i sing. It gives me strength during difficult times, and i believe it helps heal. So, here is Amazing Grace. Amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me i once was lost but now im found was blind but now i see the lord hath promised good to me his word my hope succors he will my strength in Perfect Peace as long as life endures as long as life endures thank you. [ applause ] thank you, lori. As i said to his eminence as we were waiting to come in, and i mean this from the bottom of my heart, if there are any angels in heaven, theyre all nurses. We know from our Family Experience what you do, the courage and the pain you absorb for others. So, thank you. Thank you. Your eminence, cardinal gregory, yolanda adams, to heal, we must remember its hard sometimes to remember, but thats how heal. Its important to do that as a nation. Thats why were here today. Between sundown and dusk, let us shine the lights in the darkness along the sacred pool of reflection, remember all whom we lost. I heard there was a secret chord that david played and it pleased the lord but you dont really care for music, do you it goes like this, the fourth, the fifth, the minor fall and the majority lift the baffled king composing hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah i know that theres a god above and all ive ever learned from love is how to shoot at someone who outdrew you its not a cry you hear at night its not someone whos seen the light its a cold and its a broken hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah hallelujah, hallelujah the men and women who will be the power structure of the United States of america walking away now under heavy security after what i think, nicole, was a beautiful and fitting memorial. I think that the incoming president , incoming Vice President may have just cracked open a lot of people who were holding it all in, and i think this is the first time that anyone in a position of power has spoken to the families of 400,000 americans who have died from covid. I remember coming in on a saturday night at the very beginning of the pandemic, and joe biden called in and did an interview with Mike Barnacle and me and i told him that because my son was home fulltime, i was teaching third grade for the first time in my life and not doing a very good job and anchoring from home and not doing a very good job, and i didnt want my son to see me cry so i cried every day when i ran and i asked him how he could believe in a god that allowed so many people to die. And he said he had this very thoughtful answer. Hes been processing the grief of the nations loss due to covid since the very beginning, because he understands that one loss, two losses, three losses was too many and understood the pain that people were feeling, and now he is our countrys president. Kaveeta patel has been watching along with eddie. Your thoughts . Yes. Sorry, nicole. Yeah, youre right. That shell to crack open, its pretty cathartic and i can tell you that not just the tears that we have all been kind of holding in or doing on our runs or i do it at night so my kids dont see me, but it was so important to have this moment, those lights to see that those lives are acknowledged, that they all mattered, and yet, nicole, the kind of knowledge that the work still continues. We have so much more to do to heal the nation. I think you heard Vice President elect harris say that. And im so its hard, nicole, its so hard to be so hopeful. We have miraculous vaccines. We have a National Plan thats going to come together and just think about the tragedy, you know, loved ones, family members who have died, colleagues who are truly breaking their backs, not just in hospitals and clinics but in neighborhoods to make sure businesses stay open, to make sure that you and i can get to and from, if we need to, and so this was so important, and its such a fitting, fitting way to acknowledge on this memorial, on this historic day, 400,000 deaths that weve crossed and yet we have exactly what you see. We have lights honoring the angels and i couldnt i couldnt think of anything better and anything more necessary than this moment. We talk most days, and you do always find the positive, the reason to hope, but ive never heard you cracked open, and i wonder if i could just press a little farther here. Another thing that i thought was so striking is to hold up the nurses who are standing on the front lines, holding our loved ones hands as they take their last breaths and singing to them. Yeah, thats absolutely true. You know, im really proud. Im the first doctor in my family, nicole, and it wasnt easy to get here, but you know, my honestly, my godsends are all the nurses and medical assistants and clinical nursing assistants. Theyre the people that changed my uncles bedpan when he was in the unit with covid. Theyre the people who took care of my friends, doctors and nurses who were also sick and didnt think about their own safety. They are the ones that held hands. Doctors are also right in there, because theyre doing a lot of this work, but yes, and the nurses, techs, ill put the ems workers who have to deal with these critical patients in their ambulances, and nicole, in los angeles, theyre just waiting for hours to have somebody empty them. They really are doing this and theyre not asking for anything but honestly, nicole, theyre asking for this moment. Theyre asking for somebody to acknowledge that this is real and its happening, and what a 180, you know . When the president when President Trump said that, you know, we were doing this for money or that healthcare people were overcounting the deaths. Look at those lights. Thats thats not anything we wanted, but its a way to honor all of us. Nicole, its a way to honor, you know, my kids, your kids, people who cant see their grandparents. I have had patients who have said, you know, ive had to take off my ppe just to do some parts of the physical exam and they said its the first time someones touched them. Thats this memorial acknowledges that, and it acknowledges that we do matter. You matter. And im really honestly i am. Im hopeful but we needed this moment to just be able to grieve and also honor these people. Eddie, i dont know if i can stand to be cracked open any more than kavita patel has cracked me or president elect biden and Vice President elect harris just did, but on the topic of unprocessed grief, on the topic of all the hurt, on the topic of the disregard that not wearing a mask and not abiding by the couple things we could do, staying a safe distance apart, not gathering in peoples homes, wearing our masks, allowing ourselves to acknowledge the loss and feel the pain and the loss seems like a good step in the right direction to getting the nation to do the right things. Youre so right. You know, im thinking, as i listened and watched, im thinking about my good friend, charles. He died yesterday. Of covid. He died yesterday. And you know, the selfishness that has kind of suffocated the land was held at arms length for a moment. Weve needed a National Ritual to mourn so that we can think about the mourning. And for a moment, just listening to the words and the song and singing the lights, president elect joe biden and Vice President harris pulled the grief and regret out of the privacy of our hearts, if just for a moment, so that we all could share it. Cardinal gregory put it powerfully. Sorrow unites us. You know . We needed this ritual, because the dead werent settled. People didnt die right, nicole. And coming out of my tradition, when folk dont die right, they haunt. So, you know, im thinking of charlie. When he would slice that golf ball and cuss at the top of his lungs or we would sit down and smoke cigars and talk about how bad we played and how good we would play the next round and thinking about all those folks who just for the moment, the nation shared their grief. Oh, what a first step. What a beautiful step. Im going to, you know, im reminded of the psalmist, you know . He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds. Maybe the dead will speak to us now. Maybe they can rest now. Eddie, i need you to keep talking. You can tell me more about charlie or tell me what biden does next. Well, you know, ive been thinking about, you know, what lies ahead for president biden, president elect biden. Tomorrow, were on the eve of a different moment. And he has two responsibilities, nicole. He has to do two things simultaneously. An inaugural address that has to do what Abraham Lincoln did in his second inaugural. As he spoke to the dead, the carnage of the civil war and what it ushered in and he has to do what fdr did as he spoke to a broken nation full of unemployed and hungry, folk who couldnt imagine a future. He has to do both of those at once. What we just saw spoke to my heart. It was beyond politics. It allowed me to finally just say goodbye to charlie in a different sort of way. Ive been trying to all night, ive been up thinking about him, you know . And i could imagine my close friend thinking about her mother. All the folks who have lost folks. So, its a step to us finally putting behind the horror of the last four years and maybe putting behind the ugliness that has so threatened the country. So, im thankful for the ritual. We need our rituals of mourning. Yeah. We need our National Rituals of sorrow, nicole. I agree. Claire mccaskill is watching along with us. Claire, it would have taken nothing for the sitting president to do what we just saw. Weve lost 100,000 people since december. First let me just say to eddie, im so sorry about your friend. We all have to take a moment to tell everyone we care about how sorry we are for their friends and for their families, and thats what joe biden did tonight. It was simple. It wasnt elaborate. It was solemn. And theres two parts of this. Its not just the grief, but its also the fear. America has been afraid because of this pandemic. When is it going to strike . Is it going to get my children if they go to school . Am i going to catch it if i teach . Will i get it when i go to the Grocery Store . Is my grandfather going to die . And that fear was ignored by the president of the United States. He not only lacked empathy for the loss of american life. He didnt understand that a president s role is to make america feel stronger in the face of fear. And joe biden, by focusing the transition on the covid pandemic and the death in his path, he has sent a message to america, i get it. I get it. And im on it. And were going to do a much better job of not only bringing this thing to heel, but making you so youre not afraid every day to walk out the door. Eddie, as personal as this is for you, the sharp relief that the loss of a loved one brings to your life, im looking at these pictures, realizing this is also personal, but for the man whos been in the white house for four years, yes, there would have been strict rules in the midst of a pandemic. But lets not forget it was this rare combination of malpractice and malfeasance and a handed us a yet uncontrolled pandemic and then the incitement of violence that has handed us our own capital city untouchable by any of us citizens. Its been locked down. We can watch this to try to be a part of it. We cannot take part in it. Yeah. You know, were at a crossroads as a nation. And you know, brian, its easy for us to place all of the blame on donald trump. He makes it easy for us. You know . He does. But there were 75 74plus Million People who voted for him. Selfishness, greed, you greed, rampant across the land. But there is something that president elect joe biden said. To heal is to remember. To heal is to remember. So not only do we have to remember our dead, we have to remember what brought us to this moment. What got us here. And its not just donald trump. Its not just him. And that honesty will help us walk the path that we need to walk, i hope. I pray. Chris jansing has been covering this event on the ground there for us. Chris jansing, you generously shared the loss of your aunt margie to covid. Im thinking of this moment that joe biden gave all of us, this conversation here. And im thinking of all the coverage of joe biden after the loss of his son beau and his comments today that until youve grieved loss yourself, you throw around phrases like turning grief into purpose. There is no turning grief into anything. Its a hole in your heart. But maybe having a man with a gaping hole in his heart as president is fitting right now. It is. And knowing that other people share with you the loss. Because this is a disease of isolation, of people alone in hospital beds. I will be forever grateful for the nurse who when i said goodbye to my aunt on facetime was stroking her hair. But she nevertheless died alone. And as i stand here, and you know this well. I worked in the house, brian worked in the white house. When i worked in the white house for nbc and msnbc, i would come here sometimes on saturday mornings. The beauty of it, the life of it, all the people out running, pushing baby carriages, but youre also surrounded by memorials. Over my Left Shoulder is the world war ii memorial. And across the street from where im standing is the Martin Luther king memorial. And i remember so vividly the first time i saw the vietnam memorial. And the enormity of all those names on a wall was almost too much to bear. Yeah. And then when those lights lit up, and they reflect, right . So theyre multiplied over and over and over again, those lights from where im standing. You see the reflection. And there are so many of them, 400. And the enormity of the idea that each of them represents more than a thousand people, that were losing more people every day than we lost on 9 11. So it is also a sobering moment. Its a comforting moment and a sobering moment, and a moment that should indeed drive purpose, that this has to stop. It cant keep going on like this. And that there is a new administration coming in with the knowledge of that, the understanding of that, and the accepting responsibility of that. Chris, something eddie said, that this experience tonight was not a political one. It seems that if joe biden can string together moments of leadership that are not political, he may go a long way toward his goal of trying to eye those who want to be united. There is no politics in losing somebody you love. My sister is still fighting the coronavirus. She had a bad day today. And you know that there are how many other people out there hospitalized today, who and their families who are going through the same thing. And lack of acknowledgment of that, its not this isnt politics. This is about what weve done every time that weve had a great tragedy in our country. I lived in new york on 9 11. And the way people worried in with help, the resolve of a nation, right. Was extraordinary. And weve seen it again and again and again. When the challenger disaster happened, and what we heard was from Ronald Reagan, we will be going to space again. And tomorrow were going hear from astronauts during the course of the inauguration. So its the idea that as a nation, we have always in times of great tragedy, in times of great challenge figured out as americans how to come together and move forward. And thats not a political statement. Thats a statement of our democracy. Dr. Patel, the fact that our response to coronavirus has been so partisan and political is a feature, not a bug of the trump presidency. Donald trump so much as admitted to bob woodward misleading the country on purpose, that he knew both of its lethality and the arbitrary nature of the virus, that it could indeed kill people who were otherwise healthy and young. What fills the vacuum when you have a president voted to science, committed to elevating competent people who rely on the science and whose stated priority is to beat the virus . I think its transparency. Transparency and accountability. I think you heard it in president elect bidens words several days ago. He said its going to get worse before it gets better, but im not going to sugarcoat it. Im not going the lie to you. And thats joe biden. Thats who he has always been. We have states told there is receiver and then told sorry, there is no more vaccine. We have states who are asking for help and have asked for fema and other resources to be deployed and have gotten no return calls. Its also accountability when we do have these gaps which is inevitable. This is all new. We dont have a way that we have always done this. Certainly when trump buried the pandemic playbook that we worked on in the obama administration, that didnt help things. I think it will be the transparence it is. Hell reconstitute some of the varied institutions within the white house that do have this kind of knowledge, the National Security Council Staffing that has this type of detail. And i think youve already heard from the new incoming cdc director, dr. Rochelle walensky, shes said it in some on eds, here on television, shes made it cancer clear that her goal will be to make sure the American Public understands what is happening as soon as she does an when the science is available. Unfortunately, we havent been able to trust what comes out of the trust administration at all levels. And that only further divides us. But if we have facts, if we know that certain people are not getting vaccinated and that thats a problem and we need to deal with it, well find solutions for it. I also feel pretty strongly that were going to see a lot more attention on people, just as chris mentioned, her sister who is battling covid, patients who have recovered technically from covid but still are lingering problems. Weve got millions of americans who fall into that category. Yeah. And youll also see efforts around the nih. Youll see science. Science being brought up to the cabinet level in the office of science and technology was not a trivial matter. I think theyre making it very clear its a high priority. Theyre going to have for the appropriate budgets for those priorities. And i think as a nation, that will help any divide we had, because covid is hitting all state, red, blue, you know this virus has no boundaries with political alliances. So the solutions are being desperately sought after. The very people who have protested mask mandates, nicolle, are the very same people who are looking for any vaccine or any attempt to go back to normal. And i think that will all help to heal the divide. Brian, were almost back to where we started with the deadly lethal impacts of disinformation. And i keep thinking that a white house intent on pushing out information from the scientists and from the medical community about coronavirus will be such a departure from the scientists having to war with donald trump in media interviews. War on tony fauci was not something i thought i would ever cover until i had a show that covered the Trump White House. What are you thinking as you watch the president s first act in washington, this Memorial Service . Well, im stunned by the beauty of our capitol city. And while i understand that the field of flags also means all the people who cant be with us period and cant be there witnessing the inauguration, let me be the first to suggest that the lights are so beautiful, they perhaps should be made permanent. That there are memorials along that mall to the people who have fought our wars, and i think, i have it on Good Authority these will all be visible from space. In the next four minutes the International Space station is due to make a pass over the east coast. I hope amid all their other work on board, they have their cameras trained on the capital city. Sadly, the only thing we can predict tonight is that there will be more lights. We have lost 100,000 since december. So perhaps in a gesture visible from space, this is New Washington memorial. We should keep them, protect them, keep them lit, keep them standardized. Its a bold statement. It is a reflecting pool, after all