The New York Times reports this afternoon, was approved by Trump Appointee Rod Rosenstein. Quote, in addition to mr. Rosenstein, all of the top Law Enforcement officials involved in the raid are republicans. The times also offering more details this afternoon about what the fbi was looking for in that raid. Quote, the search arent carried out by The Public Corruption Unit of the manhattan federal Attorneys Office seeks information about Karen Mcdougal an ex Playboy Model. She was paid 150,000 by American Media inc. , the enquirers parent company, whose Chief Executive is a friend of mr. Trumps. Our friend joyce vance described the raid as a, quote, bomb, on trumps front porch. Been in agreement that if the president wanted to Fire Bob Mueller, if he wanted to change course here, then he had to essentially get somebody to do it for him. That somebody would have had to have been Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney general and for all intents and purposes, the Acting Attorney General in the mueller case. So if its the president s view that he himself can do that, thats new. Now, i Dont Know Whether thats just their sort of legal opinion or whether thats because theyre teeing up to do something or what. Yeah, thats new information. Ashley parker, youve had some extraordinary reporting in the last 24 hours about the atmospherics in the west wing. You talked to many more people than i do. But for my part, i heard from the sorts of people that always tell me to calm down, nicole, i heard that people are rattled, that people are scared. Firing, if there were to be that, as of now at least, peoples understanding and sense seems to be the person who the president is most furious at right now is Rod Rosenstein, followed by jeff sessions, whos sort of perpetually furious at, and then mueller. Even though the president seems to believe he has the authority to fire mueller, it still seems as of this afternoon, Rod Rosenstein was most squarely in his crosshairs. Jeremy bash, is it your understanding that the president , as his spokesperson articulated from the white house podium today, they now believe they have the power, the authority, to fire Special Counsel bob mueller, who is investigating the president for potential collusion with american adversary russia for potential Obstruction Of Justice. They now believe they have the power and authority to fire him. Your thoughts . Theres a federal regulation, nicole, thats 28 cfr 600. 4. President actually appoint somebody else to be the Attorney General like the Vice President . Could he appoint himself, the president , to be the Acting Attorney General . And in an acting capacity, could the president then Fire Bob Mueller . Weve got a federal regulation that dictates how this could work and only how it could work. In the height of irony if the president actually directly Fire Department the Special Counsel, it would become exhibit a in the Obstruction Of Justice case. Thats how strongly this is a or z, right . I believe it would go straight to the top. You cant get more obstructive than to fire the guy thats investigating you. We had the White House Press secretary today use the podium in that Briefing Room that people have stood behind that podium and addressed the country at times of war, at times where the countrys been under attack. Today she used that podium to basically say we believe we have the authority to fire the man investigating the president. Where are we . I think were in chaos. The Statement Today reflects that. Nobodys looked up cfr. We know the federal regulation. The bigger question for me as someone that spent 25 years dedicated to Law Enforcement is, does anybody care at the white house . Does anybody care about the rule of raw . A law . The answer increasingly appears to be no. The president yesterday said the raid on cohen was an attack on everything the country stands for. Your colleagues have reported in the past that at least one staffer stood in the way the last time or one of the last times that the president wanted to Fire Bob Mueller, writing, President Trump ordered the firing last june of robert mueller, the Special Counsel overseeing the russia investigation. He ultimately backed down after white House Counsel threatened to resign rather than carry out the president s directives. What are you hearing about don
may overcome its a big problem. Ive told him that. You cant fire the Special Counsel. You just cant. Ashley parker, the president doesnt seem to be of the same mind, at least if you take his Press Secretary for her word with his personal friend and onetime very Senior Campaign advisor chris christie. Put it this way, he hasnt done it yet. But people i talked to this morning said hes definitely building the case to potentially do it if he wants to, if hes not able to be talked out of it but aides and advisors. If you looked at his comments yesterday, someone said, hes sort of floating a trial balloon, which is what he does for a lot of his more controversial statements or moves or decisions. He sort of tests it out, says, a lot of people are saying i should Fire Bob Mueller and sort of waits for the reaction. Right now were kind of in this Holding Period where the president is testing the waters, trying t ting to figure out how can go without ramifications. If you put the art of the deal window over there, is the middle Ground Firing Rod Rosenstein . Also referring evidence from bob muellers probe to the u. S. Attorney, it seems to me like bob mueller did a lot to preserve the integrity and the scope of his investigation by referring in evidence about Michael Cohen to the us Attorneys Office and saying you go ahead and follow up, this is outside my scope. Would that be something that you
could foresee this president doing instead . I dont know. If he fires Rod Rosenstein he gets maybe only 75 of the blowback that he would get if he fired bob mueller. No legal heat is going to come off the president. I think what the president may think about and come around to is massive pardons, pardons across the board for Michael Cohen, for mike flynn, for paul manafort, even for himself, certainly his sons and his soninlaw. That power is very hard to take away from the president. Frank . I think theres a way to get rid of Mueller Without Firing mueller. I think it is rosenstein. And i think you could replace rosenstein with your own person whos going to do exactly what you directed them to do. He can hand pick that person if he chooses to do so. I still say that would be obstruction. Bring this back to the obstruction case. James comey is about to go out on a book tour, sort of a high level peek at jim comey and questions about his firing. In response to the american response to the atrocities in syria, he went back to Rod Rosensteins role and articulating a rationale for firing jim comey. B where are we right now in terms of the president s public facing actions and how many of them point to an Obstruction Of Justice case that bob mueller could bring . I think firing Rod Rosenstein would be obstructy. Im not sure it would be Obstruction Of Justice under the classical definition. The president cleared the room in the oval thauoffice that day
said i want you to see your way through to clearing mike flynn. He did things that are totally outside of the president s powers. Merely removing someone from office, you could argue the president could do it. But if somebody tried to bring charges against the president or it was a basis for impeachment, the president could try to fight and say, hey, this is within my powers as president to do. Matt, you wrote about what the raid in Michael Cohens office was all about. You developed some new information overnight that we didnt have at this hour yesterday. They were looking for information about Karen Mcdougal, an ex Playboy Model who claims to have had a yearlong relationship with the president. Im reminded of the passage in
fire and fury about steve bannon saying they paid out hundreds of women. This is whats believed to be true about the president s prepolitical life. How much of your reporting bears that out today . Absolutely. What we knew yesterday was that it was kind of a wideranging Search Warrant that included information about Stormy Daniels and the payment to Stormy Daniels. We now know that its this broad Search Warrant thats looking at payments, plural. So that include payments that were also made to, as you mentioned the playboy playmate mcdougal. And the question, of course, is what role did the National Enquirer this story has it all. What role did the National Enquirer play in facilitating a
payment, and does that amount to hush money . And, of course, all of this money going to these women were those improper Campaign Finance donations . And who had in the bingo game, who had Campaign Finance donations to trump via women . So i didnt have that last night. You know, this thing is a weird story and it has a lot of strands to it. Were just trying to pull on them. Ashley, theyre all a little ske skeevy. I used that word last night. Let me press you on what is perhaps the less bondlike part of this story and the real possibility that Michael Cohen was doing a whole bunch of shady
stuff that veered into Criminal Activity and the fact that he now has everything a longtime trump confidant said these are not going to be big sophisticated crimes uncovered. Theyre going to be gross Little Things like intimidating City Council Members where he wanted to build a building. Just talk about all the exposure that the president has personally when Michael Cohens records and computers and phones are turned upside down and shared with Law Enforcement. Sure. I think federal prosecutors will learn this very quickly, but they could just look to Michael Cohens public comments. He was the president east los e fixer, long time enforcer and proudly so. He sort of bragged about making the sordid underside of, you know, the president s new york
real estate dealings and personal life go away. He was someone who basically would sort of Handle Problems like an olivia pope scandal but more of the underworld. Less well dressed. Yes. Thats what he would do if there was any problem. He didnt sort of limit himself to things that were traditionally in the realm of the president s business. It could be an article in the media that the president would not like, something involving the president s kids or the president s family. And he would i can at least speak to how he would treat reporters. He would get angry, he could be threatening. They dont quite know what they will uncover but this is what cohen himself has said hes done. Thank you for all your incredible reporting in the last
24 hours. When we come back, Bob Mueller Under Fire today with the white house claiming the president has the authority to fire him. Great, another dead end. Sarge, i just got a tip thatll crack this case wide open turns out the prints at the crime scene awwwww. Did Mcgruffy Wuffy get a tippy wippy . Im serious we gotta move fast before whos a good boy . Is him a good boy . Erg. Im just gonna go. Oh, You Wanna Go Outside . You Gotta Go Tinky poopoo . I already went, ok . In the bathroom as long as people talk babytalk to dogs, you can count on geico saving folks money. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. There is nothing civil about what this Special Counsel is doing. This is now a man that has to be brought under control, it would seem to me. Frankly, i cant imagine, because each of us has to come to terms with our own heart and conscience. I would fire the s. O. B. In three seconds. I know you would. That was lou dobbs describing bob mueller as an s. O. B. Let that sink in. Let me read something you tweeted last night that caught my attention. You tweeted calling around the president s circle, his allies are taken aback, rattled, worried the president has a small legal team that lacks a heavy hitter, Worried Mueller is
making big moves. Is it your sense the interview will still happen . The president met with several of his lawyers. Hes being advised dont fire Rod Rosenstein, dont Fire Bob Mueller. His lawyers know hes itching to talk to the legal team but they know that could be a perilous situation to say the least. Im hearing about his inability to rein his own emotions. The spectacle when he sat down with his war cabinet, one ally said he blew his top like a loon before we went in there. So i guess what we saw on
television was the president having calmed himself down. Hes always been a combative person. He used to tell me years ago during interviews he loves to fight. That was kind of a line he used to have. This element of his personally has always been there. More alarming to his associates and officials inside of the white house is his distress about the Justice Department and his tweets today about witch hunt and Attorney Client privilege is dead, he asserts. That kind of thing, they really worry, could prod a constitutional crisis. Him being angry, him watching television, not news in this white house. This is Lindsey Graham talking about what would happen if he fired bob mueller. Why are you to confident the president wouldnt Fire Bob Mueller . Im confident that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency. I havent seen any indication that the proper process wasnt followed. I know its painful, but i think the president is too smart to
fire mr. Mueller. If he did, it wouldnt end the investigation. First of all, he cant do that. Two republican senators, two allies of the president , calling him too smart to do something stupid. Isnt that sometimes the case on capitol hill . That is the case on capitol hill at times. Iet its a delicate moment. I just got off the phone with former speaker Newt Gingrich and former mayor giuliani, getting their take. Theyre warning trump dont fire mueller. It could split the party apart. Even these men are not going out on a limb and saying they know exactly what President Trump will do. That seems to be the difference in this moment, that the kind of people you just named are the kinds of people that call us thysterical when w say, oh my god, hes going to
create a constitutional crisis. These people are saying they dont know what hes going to do. Some people close to the president say he believes, his people, the gop base will stick with him each if Republican Leaders do not. So there are these two kind of camps in his ear as he thinks through hethese decisions. Do you have any reporting on where don mcgahn comes down on this . Its been reported that one of the previous time that is the president Wanted Mueller fired, he sent don mcgahn to do it and don said he would resign before he would carry out that order. Any sense of where don mcgahns head is . We also know when President Trump has talked to don mcgahn and other current and former staffers, that theyve had to call back in and report those interactions to mueller. Don mcgahn certainly trying to play it straight as white house council. Counsel. I understand the interim u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york is a mcgahn ally. Mcgahns a complicated figure right now, because hes been very quiet over the last 4872 hours as this has all played out. Its important to remember that inside of the white house, mcgahn prides himself on being removed from the russia probe. He is known to be frustrated with ty cobb. He had his differences with john dowd before dowd stepped down from being the president s lawyer. Mcgahn has interviewed with mueller, has gone over there a couple of time to meet with that legal team. But he himself has not been advising the president on the russia probe other than when it comes to decpartment of justice issues. Otherwise mcgahn stays away. Lets bring the rest of our panel. Author and conservative opinion writer sophia nelson, former democratic congressman steve israel. And elise jordan, or friend and former aide in the george w. Bush white house. Elise, where are we . I cant help but to think today that the tide is pushing donald trump closer than ever to actually moving to Fire Bob Mueller. The impression that Sarah Sanders gave today that he believes it is when she sa stated she believes it is within
his power, it shows they are publicly addressing that they have discussed these scenarios. I agree hes going to fire him. Its how hes going to do its that i think theres a question. I think hes going to go after sessions and fire sessions, because the new Attorney General can then go after rosenstein and go after mueller and trump says, i didnt do it, that was the Attorney General. Sarah has pretty much admitted, we talked about it, we think we can do it. I dont think they can do it. I think this is an untested part of the constitution. Did the Founding Fathers foresee an independent counsel . By the way, you cant bring someone under control whos independent. Lou dobbs and others are out of control. I think that the president himself is getting closer than ever. Heres the problem. I think Robert Costas reporting was so spot on. This becomes a real split in the republican party. Youve got a president whos not in a bubble, he is in a speck of a bubble. Hes listening to a few pundits, a few commentators. Hes not listening to the rest of the republican party. We are in a Midterm Election cycle. Chances are that the democrats will win the house majority. If President Trump decides to fire the Attorney General or the Deputy Attorney general or the Special Counsel, that creates an absolute crisis, an Existential Crisis for house republicans. Every republican who goes to any Campaign Event can expect to get this question. Was the president right to do those firings or was he wrong . If a republican in a moderate district says he was right to do
it, he loses independencts. If he says he was wrong to do it, he loses trump supporters. When we come back, were going to talk about the ways that bob mueller, while not political in any way, shape or form, is doing things to protect his investigation potentially in fr t from the president. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the Tuition Assistance program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. One of those things might be, how do i get out of here. Lets drill down on the icky category of all of this. Michael cohen said he would take a bullet for the president. I heard from a source last night that said thats not the case, he wouldnt even go to jail for the president. If Michael Cohen was in the middle of Hush Money Payments to women that the president had sexual relationships with, what could be in his records . What could the fbi and the u. S. Attorneys be holding today . Were currently all thinking this is primarily about the skeevey stuff. The bombshell could be some connection between the president and that stuff. For example, if theres records that the president knew of a
setup of a delaware conference to pay off Stormy Daniels, if he knew there was someone sent to threaten her in a las vegas parking lot, if he knows about the capture and kill going on at the Tabloid Newspapers to silence stories, now you start weaving him into criminal conspiracies, hobbs act violations. Somethings in his records thats going to mention trump. Im sure of it. Let me bring jeremy bash back in the conversation. Hes now a powerful and elegant man about washington, helped plan the raid that captured bin laden. Might he have had a point when he first sort of came out on his Public Relations blitz . Some people thought he was overly aggressive on the p. R. Front, but it seems like the legal fact versus caugs have ca the public arguments that he was making at the time, that perhaps the nda was all arolong not val because the president hadnt signed it. What hasnt on the bingo card has been bank fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud. If Michael Cohen took out a loan to pay Stormy Daniels, im sure he didnt tell them what it was for. If there is evidence in Michael Cohens office, in his hotel room or places of business that say the president knew about that and to franks point,
the president could be guilty of conspiracy to commit bank fraud. Thats a serious issue. The one thing we havent figured out is who would prosecute that. Would there be another Special Counsel who would have to be appointed . Would they put this under bob mueller . I wanted to have this part of the conversation, because it seemed to me, frank you were o on the Phone Yesterday and we talked about this a little bit. It seems that this is bob mueller in some ways protecting the Special Counsels investigation into russia but offering this to the us Attorneys Office. This is a bit of insurance here. Hes sending a message that i may go away someday, but these allegations and this case doesnt go away. Ive got a state Attorney General, ive got a u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york. Who else do i have out there that will continue on long after im gone. I agree with that. The big lie that the president Put Forth Yesterday and i hate to call the president of
the United States a liar because we all respect the presidency. But the big lie is that somehow mueller is behind this or he did this. He used the words broke in. They broke in to my lawyers office. No. It was a federal judge that authorized on Efvidence Presentd by fbi agents visavis u. S. Attorneys and they did it the proper way. We all no the standaknow the st going to be really hype. All good lawyers create these things called cya files. You all know what these initials mean. Hes got one, i promise you. If im involved in some scheme, ive covered myself. Ive got some records somewhere so that if it all goes wrong, i can say he knew or she knew. I think hes got files. I remember mr. Mueller and mr. Comey when they were both directors of the fbi Briefing Members of congress on investigations on National Security crises. They would always say the same thing. They would say, we will pursue the facts to a conclusion. Sometimes the fact change and you reach a different conclusion, as you well know. The supposition that some make that this investigation was intended to pin down a Campaign Finance violation or Something Else may very well lead to things that will shock the american people. Do you think we can still be shocked . Were now talking about a raid on Michael Cohen, who we spotted someone on my team spotted him in the lobby of r r rockefeller center. Hes well known for going on tv and saying Le Ining Ludicrous T support of the president. Michael avanatti has leveled
some pretty serious charges against him and his associated for intimidating his client stormy cdaniels. If i had to predict just on the moment donald trump entered this race on escalators and talking about mexicans crossing the border to become racist, and he keeps upping the ante in terms of shock value. He always has to, because otherwise you stop paying attention. With every escalating scandal, he always is ratcheting it up a bit. I worry that the ultimate shock is firing bob mueller. Im bracing for when that happens and the crisis and the destabilization of our country. Who creates a crisis . What republican gets out of their zombie state and is in crisis . I dont disagree with your productions about what donald trump will do. I simply disagree that any
president theyre in a trump induced stupor, afraid of a tweet. Hes tweeted eed at me. Im still standing. They are spineless. They are so afraid to do the right thing that they follow him down the rabbit hole to do the wrong thing every time. He cant accurately say this is red, this is blue, this is green. Were operating in this alternative universe of republicans who are, quite frankly, cowards these days. There was a gop senate lunch today but nothing was discussed about the potential of donald trump firing bob mueller. Its like stepford senators. Republicans are not cowards. They are very courageous when it comes to their reelections. When they calculate that donald trump you should be able to beat every one of them. When they calculate that
donald trump has become a political liability in the upcoming Midterm Election, they will turn on him in a moment. The democrats only need 24 to become the majority in the house. Even then, they have a small margin. So when they wake up to the fact that donald trump is going to cost them not only their majority, but the margin in their minority, they will turn on him like the brittle page of an old book. Dont hold your breath. Frank, i want to ask you about timing. Youre always right with your predictions. Whats your sense on where these investigations are . To get to the point where you can get a Search Warrant for yesterdays raid, where are they in investigating whatever thats about . Great question. A lot of people arent quite sure what probable cause means. So lets talk about it for a second. It not only means youre proving to a magistrate that you believe evidence of a crime exists, but that it exists in the place
youre seeking to search. Think about that. They searched three locations yesterday. So ive been in front of many a magistrate in my career. They look at you and they go, frank, so you believe its in the hotel why . Think about how long it takes to establish that and prove it to a judge. Your honor, i had him under surveillance. I saw him go into the hotel with that very same computer he conducts business on. Thats the level of specificity you need for probable cause for locations. Muellers had this. Hes referred it to the Southern District and theyre worked it for quite some time to get what they got yesterday. I heard from a former federal probability that it was his sense that, because of the incredibly high bar to execute a raid on someones attorney in three locations, as frank just spoke to, it was his sense that either there was evidence of a crime or evidence of the
destruction of evidence. What do you think about that analysis . Or both. I mean, usually youd have to show the judge both. Again, The Big Picture here is that the president through his spokesperson today basically said that the president is considering the unthinkable, considering firing the Special Counsel. And it shows a president whos lost it, whos snapped and whos lost all command of reason. Hes doing it right at the moment where hes considering wartime efforts to take on assad in syria and to launch cruz missile strikes once more against syria. We have the commander in chief sitting at the table with his Military Leaders and he is completely governing by impulse. That is highly scary and highly concerning. Its sure is. Jeremy bash, were so grateful to you for joining us. Thank you. When we come back, Mark Zuckerberg just directly confirmed facebook is cooperating with the mueller investigation. The latest on his closelywatched senate testimony, next. Alice is living with metastatic breast cancer,
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kara swisher. I heard some analysis through a mutual friend of your that the name boy genius, in a neither name neither applies for Mark Zuckerberg today. Tell us why. I wrote a column talking about treating these men like boys. And that he is a ceo of a major company. You know, i think actually he is doing rather well mostly because most of the questions from the senators are really not very hard. I kind of compared it previously with lester holt on being hit by a wet noodle. So he is doing a good job answering easy questions pretty much. Some news is leaking out, but not very much at all. What are the hard questions that someone like you would advise people to be asking . I mean what is facebook really on the line for . It seems that there is an open question about whether or not their own technology was weaponized by the United States democracy by russia. Yeah, id ask what happened around the investigation of
Cambridge Analytica in great detail and in triplicate. They are asking him broad questions on terms of service and privacy. So it is allowing mark to make broad answers Raesh Highther thy specific questions. It seems like the senators are explaining like they know how to use the internet. One senator said his son likes instragram, not sure what it has to do with anything, but it is nice. So i would ask why didnt they tell the ftc about certain things, how many other organizations have misused the data, how it was used. Id be highly specific about these things. And mark may or may not have the answers, but at least put the questions out there. Former very senior official Intelligence Agency says that if he were looking to infiltrate the trump campaign, you would have looked at their finance reports, seen Cambridge Analytica as a vendor and that would have been the soft target
on the way in. Do you think Mark Zuckerberg has an answer to questions about whether or not they were susceptible to that kind russia interference . No. He hasnt explained how it happened. And that is what id be interested in. And i would have started looking at Cambridge Analytica very lrl i because they were so linked with the trump campaign. And if there were allegations that the russians had misused the platform in order to men get trump get elected, that is the first place id get stopped. So they may have been doing this independent will the scenes, but no one really asked him exactly what they are doing and how they are looking into the abuse of data on the platform. Something i learned in being involved in a Special On Bob Mueller bs since t mueller, since early 90s, hes been very interested in tech. Is it your prediction that bob mueller is light years ahead of where the congressional hearings are today and trying to understand the role of
facebooks technology and next issues between the russians and Cambridge Analytica and facebook data . Well, hed have to be. It is critically important how the system was misused. And it is not a surprise that they would be in touch with facebook. They have been this touch with all the Tech Companies because of the way these platforms have been used. So if he wasnt looking at how it was done, he wouldnt be doing his job and im assuming he is doing his job. As long as he has his job. Exactly. We need you back at this table. See us in new york. Thank you for sharing your honest thoughts with us. Well sneak in our last break and be right back. Both Symptom Relief and remission. Infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. Entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. Pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal Brain Infection caused by a virus may be possible. This condition has not been reported with entyvio. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flulike symptoms or sores. Liver problems can occur with entyvio. If your uc or crohns treatment isnt working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. Entyvio. Relief and remission within reach
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