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Most astonishing way. The american agent who helped capture el chapo comes out of the shadows. I didnt know who wed be able to trust. Exclusive details of this whiteknuckled manhunt. Pictures seen her for the first time. Secret drug depths, hidden escape routes. Hes like Harry Houdini. Youre inside this real life thriller. This is it. Hes there. He was there. He was like living a movie. Hello and welcome to dateline. He was the infamous kingpin who inspired fear among criminals and Law Enforcement on both sides of the border. His name was el chapo. For over a decade hed evaded authorities by disappearing into a secret network of tunnels built under his many safe houses. But one man was determined to capture the fugitive and would lead his team to great lengths, even risk his own life to get the job done. Heres lester holt with inside the hunt for el chapo. He was hiding somewhere in these forbidding mountains or in this sprawling city or in this sun splashed beach resort. Somewhere somewhere in mexico. He was the most wanted drug lord in the world implicated in hundreds of murders, and finding him became the Dangerous Mission of this man and a team of u. S. And mexican Law Enforcement agents. I am pretty sure ive never started off an interview with a question im about to ask you, but you were chasing some really bad people with really long memories. What are you doing talking to me in front of these cameras . Originally i started out under an alias. For the First Time Ever this former dea agent was coming out of the shadows despite the fears for his life. The dangers, theyre real, right . Really ive got to watch my back the same way whether i was under an alias or using my name. Was it a calculated risk . I was always calculating it in my head, but it was time to step up and be proud of what id done, what my teammates had done. His name was drew hogan. Facing incredible odds he and the team put their lives on the line to stop an elusive prey. We go inside drews hunt as he pursues el chapo from safe house to face house and finally comes facetoface. Its not just a story about one man. Its larger than that. Its two countries coming together and accomplishing something that everyone thought was impossible. He recounts that journey in his book, hunting el chapo. In the book for security reasons he changed the names of some people and places. We blurred the faces of others who are still working in the field because for all of them danger lurked around every curve in the road. Youre always going to have that in the back of your mind. But its what you do with that fear. What he did was obsess over el chapos whereabouts. A small town in the midwest where he played High School Football and dreamt of going into Law Enforcement. Your first shot at carrying a badge was as a local sheriff deputy. Correct. Loved working the street. One day i was with a buddy of mine, a former Police Officer and he said, hey, why dont you just go into chicago and test with the dea. The dea, the United States Drug Enforcement administration. He joined in 2005. His new job brought into a city in the southwestern United States. His first order of business was to learn about the mexican narco cultures which included songs about a ballad about el chapo. His mentor was an undercover agent drew calls in the book diego. As he was translating them to me i started to understand what was behind these songs that connect the dots for me, the whos who in that world. Were these like the modern day out laws . Absolutely. And el chapo was at the very top. Chapo, el chapo. Realtime joaquin guzman. The city of chicago named him public enemy number one for his role in bringing in tons of drugs that were sold on the streets in the u. S. Drews coauthor. Chapo is a ruthless and murderous guy, lets not sugar coat that. He rose to power, though, on his ability to deliver huge amounts of cocaine and he was the guy that could deliver. He invenlted the narco tunnel. The narco tunnel, the ubiquitous tunnels burrowed underneath the u. S. Mexico border that the cartels use to smuggle drugs into the u. S. The syndicate had thousands of members and spanned the globe, it made el chapo a folic hero in mexican culture. Hes a little boy that sold oranges on the street and rises from absolute nothingness, cant read or write to being a billionaire. Thats extremely captivating as a mythology for poor working people in a very impoverished country. He started in the drug trade in 1970s and was arrested in 1993. But el chapo was able to run his cartel from a high security mexican prison for eight years. And then in 2001 his legend grew when he escaped, hidden in a laundry cart. The way he escaped was like a movie. Hes covered mexican drug wars and el chapo for years. I mean its pure gold for a legend, right . El chapo was the master of bribery. He spent millions of dollars a year secretly doling out cash to every branch of the Mexican Government so officials would turn a blind eye to his criminal enterprise. With el chapo the truth and the reality is more than 200,000 people have died because of his war on drugs and there are more than 20,000 people who have disappeared. The sconced in his safe houses el chapo remained free for years and seemed untouchable by the time drew hogan joined the dea. Thered been so many failed attempts throughout the years. El chapo would escape out the back door. He was wired into the Law Enforcement . Absolutely at every level. But u. S. And mexican agents never gave up on capturing el chapo. A 30year veteran of the dea he over saw his Agents Division to bring him to justice. In the sense of capturing el chapo guzman, they were very successful in developing intelligence. The knowledge of how these cartels were operating. Drew hogan and diego first joined hunt with a daring move, by infiltrating chapos cartel. That would have been 2010 into 2011 where diego and i started moving cartel money. They worked as part of a task force. Diego was a local detective not a federal agent like drew. These are photos taken during their operations. Diego passed himself off as a Big Time Operator as drew coordinated behind the scenes. By doing this, they were risking their lives. You guys were playing the role of money launderers. Diego was posing as the director of a criminal network. We could move millions of dollars as a time and a ton of quantity of drugs at any point. That was our sales pitch. That was their pitch, and they were successful. For instance, see those fedex boxes, they contained nearly 1. 2 million destined for el chapos operations. Drew and diego were getting inside the belly of the beast. Coming up were you actually reading their texts . Every single one of them. 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Download the xfi app today. By 2011 dea agent drew hogan was part of the hunt for drug kingpin el chapo. Drew and his Task Force Partner diego infiltrated el chapos cartel. These are photos of their undercover operations. They acted as money launderers and each step of the way as they moved cash they found a new target to exploit, leading them closer to the top. As diego and i landed at a new location, we immediately hit the streets. We would go out that night into the different bars and hotels and clubs to try not to look like agents. Exactly. They were playing a very dangerous game. And drew was becoming obsessed obsessed with tracking down el chapo. Drew felt he went as far as he could in the u. S. He needed to immerse himself south of the border. He made a decision to move to mexico city with his young family. I had a talk with my wife extensively. Shoe knew everything we were getting ourselves into. And she told me whats your gut telling you . And i said to go to go. Lets do it. Leaving diego back in the states drew and his family arrived in mexico city in may 2012. He and the team were now stalking one of the most powerful criminals in the world on el chapos own turf. Its just like whos watching me . And it could be anybody from chapos people to the local cartel around mexico city to the street thugs or even the Mexican Government. He worked in a cluttered cubicle in the u. S. Embassy in mexico city. During long days and nights he barely saw his family. Drews attention was focused on it Mountain Range far to the west. Its known as mexicos lawless land, el chapos home base the mexican state of sinaloa comprises part of it. The biggest city there is the reputed narco capital of mexico. And el chapo essentially owned the town. It would be like in the heyday of prohibition for capone. It was a place where kingpins were placed in large ornate tombs. They seemed to stand as reminders of the violence and the danger that engulfed. Those areas are completely controlled by the drug cartels. But drew was relentless. For instance just before he arrived in mexico he came upon a treasuretrove of evidence. El chapo had left his safe haven for this mansion in cabo st. Lucas. It was raided by mexican Law Enforcement. El chapo got away, but there were key scraps of paper, notebooks and phones left behind with phone numbers that drew could target. You cant just target the man himself. You have to target his entire infrastructure. That means his pilots, his facilitators, his couriers, his wives, his girlfriends, his sons, down to his maid and his cook. But it began with his two most trusted pilots. Pilots who would swoop el chapo in and out of his hide outs under cover of darkness. It was a big discovery. Drew learned an agent from Homeland Security investigations back in the states who he calls brady had also uncovered the pilots numbers. He came back and said, oh, my god, you know, this could be a gold mine. And we just began intelligence back and forth him in the states and me back in mexico. They knew el chapo usually didnt carry a phone himself but was always with an underling who did. So they thought if they could track the phone of chapos closest associates they would find chapo himself. But making things more difficult is chapos people kept changing what were called burner phone, diz posable phones used a short time and tossed away. Dont you have to go back to square one every time they toss them . If they drop their phones at all times yes. But theres hundreds of people in this organization and theyre not all dropping their phones at the same time. I toss my phone now, she tosses her phone tomorrow, youre three days later. That was their weakness. How were you able to identify where these communication were coming from . Through the names they were using. They were very open in their communications. It was a big mistake by el chapos operation. Drew and the team could now track them. And the Cartel Operatives had no idea. They didnt think that those communications could be intercepted by u. S. Law enforcement. Were you actually reading their texts . Every single one of them. Could you tell where they were coming from and whether you were in fact seeing communications directly from el chapo . Yes. It took us a while to infiltrate this mirror structure they had setup. A mirror structure, a ladder of phones belonging to el chapos underlings, climbing to up the tafrom third tier, maybe a runner to second tier, perhaps a driver and so on. You essentially cracked the code. Cracked the code. It was a high point in the search. After years of hunting el chapo was in their sights at last. Coming up chapo new instantly. Somebody was corrupt. Drew hogan smells a rat and makes a move. We had to go into Enemy Territory and root him out. A bold strike with deadly stakes. The city is lighting up. Its on fire. Somethings not right. 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He was going to be far too dangerous to actually go in and root him out. We thought it would be an absolute bloodbath. Th then a break, obsessed with his mission drew hogan once again sacrificed time with his family to continue the hunt. He worked with brady, his colleague from Homeland Security investigations back in the states together they tracked phones of el chapos closest associates knowing el chapo would most likely be with them and plotting their locations on google maps. We had seen him come down to a remote location, and we were trying to pinpoint it. And after hours of searching on google maps we found it. El chapo was camped out at a place known for duck hunting. Where he would come down, meet with his most trusted lieutenants or his sons just for a few hours and then he would head back to the city. Once we had that location, it was our x and i nicknamed it duck dynasty. Drew now knew el chapo was venturing outside his fortress. This was the best shot they may ever have. He and his partners pushed their superiors and a decision was made. They would grab el chapo at duck dynasty. So now youve got him in your sights but im assuming this is not an operation you can pull off by yourselves. No, we cannot do anything as the United States government without the host nation. From the beginning i didnt know who wed be able to trust with this. I hadnt shared anything with the Mexican Government. And the only unit that i could do that with, that i had some level of trust in with the Mexican Marines. Theyre the elite. Theyre the elite. Sasewb mar, the Mexican Marines had a sterling reputation and ability to keep a secret. But this time something went wrong. As soon as we met i provided chapos location. But the second they moved resources up to sinaloa, chapo new instantly. You saw that in your intercepts. Yes. How did you feel . Devastated. It was an eerie feeling. The team had been betrayed but no one knew who did it or why. The heat in and around duck dynasty deterred him from coming out. He stayed holed up in his safe house where he spent 90 of his time there and he didnt come out. And its the last place you want to have to go and get him. Right. Brady had flown to mexico to join drew in person. The clock was ticking. Because of the leak el chapo now knew Something Big was about to go down. The team had no choice. We had to make a move, and that move was to go into Enemy Territory and root him out. The Task Force Leaders approved a bold action, to do what they didnt want to do and strike at el chapo in his fortress city. You went in with had Mexican Marines. Once again you had to trust them. Right. Drew was recording on his cellphone as the operation began. This particular operation in february 2014 was the first time that the Mexican Marines had ever done an operation on the ground in this area because of the danger and the compromises and the risks involved. Laser focused on their mission, drew and brady and the team had narrowed down el chapos location to a oneblock radius. But they needed to find the right house and a specific door to get at him. So we sent our teams down there to do that. And they spent 24 hours in that city alone trying to pinpoint that door. Drew and the rest of the team waited at a nearby military base for the call to come in that el chapos location had been pinpointed. In the meantime cooliacon was abuzz. Fear hung in the air. Rumors and Text Messages were flying among the people who live there. The city is lighting up. Its on fire. The look outs all throughout the city were alerting everyone that something is not right, that there are people in the neighborhood that dont belong. They were right. The Mexican Marines were about to pounce. Coming up inside el chapos lair. You slept in one of his beds . I did. We slept in one of his beds, ate the food out of his refrigerator. 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Im dara brown and heres whats happening. Democrats have called in nearly a dozen witnesses to testify in the impeachment inquiry this week. Energy secretary rick perry has refused the request. And National Security advisor john bolton says he will not appear without a subpoena. President trump is threatening to cut off federal funding to the state of california as firefighters battle several massive wildfires there. Trumps attack of the states g governor gavin newsom continuing an ongoing feud. Now back to dateline. Welcome back to dateline. Im natalie morales. Dea agent drew hogan had spent years on the hunt for el chapo. Known as the worlds most dangerous drug lord. He and his colleagues had narrowed the search to a one block radius to a town deep inside mexican territory. And now a team was on the ground determined to strike before he could escape again. Here again is lester holt with inside the hunt for el chapo. February 16, 2014, as drew was waiting as a military base 150 miles away, members of the mexican u. S. Team had entered the hornets nest. Its search of narco kingpin el chapo guzman. Theyd been on the ground exposed for 24 hours and still hadnt located the exact house el chapo was holed up in. I got a call on the ground from the team saying, look, this isnt working. Everybodys hungry, tired, were exhausted. Time was running out. Weve got one option left, chapos most trusted courier, go find him. They did. And sure enough he flipped on his boss and agreed to lead them to chapos five safe houses. A squad of nearly 50 Mexican Marines and u. S. Agents swarmed the area. Drew and brady flew in from the base with another contingent of Mexican Marines. Drew caught much of the operation on his phone. I said perfect, its done. He is done. What followed was a tense cat and mouse game. As the Mexican Marines raided el chapos safe houses and stash pad in search of their prize. The first message that comes in from my guy says cameras everywhere, the place is a fortress. Drew understood that when he and brady arrived at one of the safe houses. I see the steel reinforced door. Its about 6 inches thick. It had taken the marines probably 10, 15 minutes to get through that door. These images inside those safe houses revealed details about el chapos drug operation and his life underground, like these fake green bananas that drew says the cartel filled with cocaine and smuggled across the border. They also found dotons of drugs and scores of weapons including el chapos prized possession, this jewelled encrusted handgun and his initials on it. You write in the book you help yourself to one of his hats. I did. Essentially my only souvenir of the hunt. What was your impression of the safe houses and the way he was living . I was surprised. He really afforded himself no luxuries. Each safe house was the same type of construction, very basic. Wall administer style plastic tables. Not the lavish trappings of the drug kingpin. No, not at all. And there was Something Else all the safe houses had in common. Every single one of them had a tunnel underneath the bathtub which connect today the citys sewer system. When they saw the tunnels, they knew. Hes gone. I dont know where hes at. It was a crushing blow, a low point. Tunnels, el chapos trademark. Expertly engineered. Accessed by a secret switch that activated hydraulic lifts under the bathtub. Heres video of drew and brady inside one of those tunnels. El chapo was long gone. No sign of him. It was time to regroup while agents in the u. S. Worked to locate el chapo, drew and the team waited in cooliacon. Exhausted and on edge they spent four days continuing to dismantle el chapos criminal network from within his strong hold. You slept in one of his beds . I did, several of them. We hit these safe houses. We needed somewhere to stay, and the marines turned them into their bases. We slept in the beds and went in the kitchen and ate the food in his refrigerator. I popped a beer in his fridge. It must have havent surreal sitting there drinking his beer, sleeping on his bed. Yeah, it was almost like i had become him in a way. But el chapo was cunning and elusive. Many tale had you almost caught him at that point . Yes. Were so close, i can taste it. Coming up we locked eyes there just for a split second. At last the hunter and the hunted come facetoface. Every single time you got close chapo guzman would escape. Hes like Harry Houdini. Who had the ace up his sleeve this time . Surprised you. I couldnt believe it. When dateline continues. I ct when dateline continues Drug Enforcement agent drew hogan and the team of u. S. Agents and Mexican Marines had been close, so close to catching el chapo guzman. But the drug kingpin had escaped through a secret tunnel under his bathtub. The trail had not gone completely cold, however. Figuring el chapo had fled with someone he trusted, the dea armed with information from another case tracked the cellphone of the kingpins chief enforcer. He had driven at a high rate of speed down, turned around and came right back. Youre actually seeing the location of where that phone is. Yes. And you see it go there quickly. Right. And then return. Right. No other mission than to take el chapo to safety. Right. The famous beach resort on the mexican coast that attracts thousands of u. S. Tourists a year. It was just a two hour drive. Drew hogan and the team were ready to go. But they needed a plan first. We couldnt take 300 marines down there. He would know we were coming in an instant. Instead they would sneak in under the radar of el chapos vast network of look outs. His hawks. We buy civilian clothes, tshirts and shorts and flipflops and were tourists. Youre trying not to look like an invading army at this point. Right. We all left at different times out of the city from different locations. They still didnt know just where he was holed up. Were about halfway there and the agent finds that new top tier number and we ping it from the back seat, and its on the coast. And whats it pointing to . Its pointing to a place called miramar. Its in the middle of the city. Like this is it, this is where hes at. They had tracked el chapos top tier underling to this Apartment Building, miramar. They would soon find out if el chapo was with him. We set the operation for 5 30 in the morning. More than a decade of collective investigative work had come down to a predawn raid in the tourist heart of the city. The whole team suited back up in military gear tell me how it went from that point . We came in right up to the front of the hotel, got out. The marines began filtering inside, and i was standing out front in camouflage wearing a black ski mask. At this time i had el chapos black ball cap on my head. They determined el chapo was likely holed up on the fourth floor. Knowing he and his body guards were most certainly armed the team was worried the operation would turn into the a fire fight, catching civilians in and around the Apartment Building in the deadly cross fire. I was worried about our perimeter. We didnt have enough man power, so i wanted to stay outside. Drew watched as lights flicked on in the building. The Mexican Marines had begun to make their entry. And thats when i heard the excited radio chatter. When i ran up to the guy who had the raid yeand i said what do they say, he said theyve got the target, theyve got him. Him, el chapo. Drew had spent four years hunting el chapo. Hed weathered the danger and anxiety of stalking him on his own turf, had sacrificed countless hours with his family. And now finally he was about to come facetoface with the object of his obsession. Drew drove his armored car into the garage. Youre about to pick up el chapo. Right. I run over to him and i jump into his face, and the first thing that comes to my mind, i go whats up, chapo and his eyes kind of bulged out of his head, and we locked eyes there for a split second, and i put him into my vehicle in the back seat, and thats when i told him to turn around and look at me, and took a couple of pictures and that was it, he was done. As i listen to you tell the story i find myself shocked this wasnt a bloodbath, there was no dramatic shootout. In fact there were no shots fired at all, were there . None. Surprised you. I couldnt believe it. I could not believe it. We could have ended up in a gunfight at every door, every raid, driving around every corner. And it didnt happen. A mexican marine helicopter met the convoy and picked up their prize catch, flying him to a military base. Drew and brady recorded their celebration on drews phone. This is how we do it back at the base drew again pulled out his phone. Here he is with brady posing next to blindfolded el chapo. And drew caught a few moments of el chapos interrogation by the Mexican Marines. Hard to believe, but here is the worlds most dangerous drug lord complaining about his teeth. And with el chapo finally in custody there was one person drew wanted to talk to. His wife. I hadnt talked to her in days. And i grabbed my phone and i sent a quick text, and i said i got him, and she writes back, no way. And i said, yeah, im coming home. Job was over. That was it. Tonight the worlds top drug lord is in custody after decades on the run. The news of el chapos capture reverberated around the world. To grab chapo guzman after years of a manhunt is like the Harry Houdini out there just evading Law Enforcement. Every single time you got close chapo guzman would escape. So basically it was an amazing success for everyone. Drew flew back to mexico city, mission accomplished. But then the unthinkable. Coming up i just felt a wave wash over me. 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No stain. No nothin. Whatever happens, no big deal. Resolve. Mexico city, two days after the extraordinary capture of el chapo, dea agent drew hogan returned to his desk at the u. S. Embassy. I had this feeling, just this empty feeling. I was completely hollow. I expected to be doing cartwheels up and down the hall, ecstatic. But i wasnt. Drew could not understand why he was suddenly depressed. I felt almost like i was placed at dea to do this and then once it was done, that was it. Its time for me to go. Eight months Later Special agent drew hogan walked away from the dea and left mexico with his family. He got a job in the private sector, and that was supposed to be the end of the story. Then 17 months after el chapos capture i was in the back seat of a taxicab in rome on the way to the airport headed to new york city to meet with my literary agent about the story when my wife sent me a text. She writes c is out, he just escaped. C, chapo. He had escaped from prison again. Drews head was spinning. And i just felt a wave wash over me in the back seat of that taxicab not knowing what was right anymore. It was i couldnt believe it. He was always one step ahead of me. Turns out it was all caught on tape. Mexican authorities had installed a Security Camera in el chapos cell as a precaution. You see el chapo just walking back and forth inside the cell. And then you suddenly stop seeing him. He just disappears out the frame, and thats when he left. As the world learned El Chapo Escaped through a tunnel dug right under the prison and up into his cell. The job to retake him was now in the hands of the Mexican Marines and virtually the same group of u. S. Agents minus drew. But this time they werent starting from scratch. They understood his organization. They understood the network. They understood the movements. He wasnt as clever as he thought. Learning from and building on the 2014 play book, the mexican and u. S. Team cornered el chapo on january 8, 2016, just six months after he escaped. But this time he didnt go down without a fight. And it was wild. This helmet cam footage shot by a mexican marine captured the operation as it quickly devolved into a shootout, killing five of el chapos men and injuring one marine. El chapo was once again in custody. And this time quietly extradited to the United States. In february 2019 guzman was convicted on all ten charges against him including engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, Money Laundering and conspiracy to commit murder. He was sentenced to life plus 30 years in an american prison. But the drug wars rage on. El chapos arrest did not stem the flow of narcotics across the u. S. Border. And there were nearly 30,000 murders in mexico in 201317, at the time a record for that country. Enforcement is only one piece of the problem, right . Im very confident that we made a difference. But the reality is that unless you stop demand these young kids that are getting addictsed that have no idea what theyre taking, this is going to be a very long battle. It starts with the schools, the ed educators. Even though he left the dea nearly four years ago drew still has security concerns. Afraid . No, i wouldnt say afraid. Just hyperaware. You know, ready for anything. And ready for his place in Law Enforcement history. A dea agent who was obsessed with the hunt for the most wanted drug lord in the world. I think thats where people had gotten caught up before is that it had just become almost infatuted with the man, with the legend, the myth. And for me that was never the case. It was about the challenge. It was about the hunt. Thats all that mattered. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im natalie morales. Thank you for watching. It could be as by ebusy week in the impeachment probe. 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