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But on a dark highway, the case would take a dramatic turn. All the hair on my body was standing on edge. He made you nervous . Extremely nervous. A mysterious driver carrying ominous cargo. How did he explain that . At that time, you dont. Its evidence to suggest that theres some sort of conspiracy involved here. Unraveling a mindbending plot to reveal a shattering truth. Evil is the only word i can think of. Inhuman to do Something Like that. Reporter it was a moonless night in iowa, 4 00 in the morning. The quietest of quiet hours. A smalltown cop glided down the empty highway out of des moines, bound for the early shift at his rural police department. Thats when he saw it, corner of his eye. What was that in the ditch . Maybe 30 yards off the highway. A car . In trouble . He swung around. Somebody clearly missed a curve on the gravel access road. The drivers door hanging open on it, look like airbags deployed, dome light was on. Reporter and then suddenly, who was that, knocking on his car window . Gentleman didnt have a shirt on. Reporter seemed agitated, weird. Eventually, a second cop appeared. He was excited, seemed like a you know, if you were to talk to somebody right after they got done running a marathon just out of breath, sweating profusely. The entire time im out here, its just a very, very its an uneasy feeling. My stomach was turning. But no law broken. He called the guy a cab, sent him home. No idea what was coming. How could they know . It makes you question the goodness of humanity, it makes you question your faith, it makes you question your beliefs. It is a point where evil outdid good. Reporter even here in the heart of the heartland, its lovely capital, its famous state fair, all manner of deepfried delicacies and president ial casting calls here. Des moines. A place known for its sweet and gentle nature, for people who are simply nice. Like him. He was he was just very good. Reporter his name was Justin Michael. These are his parents, weldon and marie. He cared about people. He was kind and considerate. Reporter just a nice guy. Just a very nice guy, a very good person. The sort of person who volunteered for things, like helping to build houses for habitat for humanity. He really enjoyed it. Reporter justin was almost 31, the eldest of three. His brother nathan idolized him. All three of us stayed close, just always grew up, like, playing sports and hanging out with justin. He was just a great older brother. Very supportive and caring and would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it. Reporter in fact, said sister sydney, justin saved her life when, as a teenager, she was caught in a rip tide at the beach. It was absolutely terrifying. I felt like i was literally drowning. And then all of a sudden there was justin, and he was pulling me up on our boogie board and telling me that everything was going to be okay, everything is going to be fine. So you get the idea. Just a good person, a nice guy who was about to get as lucky as a person can in life. That is, lucky in love. With her. I found him very attractive and interesting and he he was fun to talk to. Reporter her name is angie ver huel, and what happened to angie and justin was that thing that some people dont even think exists. They fell in love at first sight. Bingo. Just like that. And after our third date, i texted my friend and i said, i am pretty sure i am going to marry this guy. Wow. He seemed to feel the same way about you . Yep. It was very easy from day one. We both knew. So they did what people do. They tried out each others interests. And angie discovered that the man she was in love with also loved things like skydiving. Which of course, he wanted her to do too. Lured you out for a time or two . Yeah. Reporter he had you jumping out of an airplane or yes. Reporter or whatnot . Yes. Reporter what the heck were you thinking . Yeah, i am terrified of heights, so reporter so he took you up there . Yeah. It was so exhilarating, though. I was terrified until the moment i got up in the plane, and then i was just calm. Yeah, and it was so much fun. Reporter which was a little like their courtship, really. A jump that some people would find terrifying, but not them. You got engaged very quickly . Uhhuh. When you know, you know. Reporter ever any doubt . I mean no day you woke up and thought, oh, god, what have i done . Nope. So in august 2013, two months after they met, angie and justin were an engaged couple. In december, she moved in with him at his house in a tiny place called grimes, about 20 minutes outside of des moines. And they planned their wedding. Which would be, they decided, a big family event on the beach in North Carolina where his parents lived. They set the date july 20, 2014. It was may. Excitement building when justins parents came to visit, in grimes. Mothers day weekend. Reporter and on the wednesday evening before that mothers day we were laughing and talking about Halloween Costumes for the next year and as it grew dusk, we ended up cooking smores over their fire pit, which was one of justins favorite things to do. Reporter justins dad weldon was on business in minneapolis that night, so marie stayed alone in justin and angies guest room. As far as she knew, all was well. Across the hall, a couple in love. All good things on their way. Dark now. Moonless dark. She closed her eyes and slept. And then so i heard the door opening and my first thought was angie was coming in to grab a scarf or a piece of jewelry from the dresser. I knew she kept some things spare things in the bedroom. The person just stood in the doorway. Reporter what did you see . Just a silhouette . I saw a dark silhouette. A person dressed in dark clothing, and i could see a red laser light shining in my eyes, and as i was laying there, i noticed the red light shine across the pillow. And i remember thinking you you know, thats a strange flashlight. And thats when i saw a much bigger person than either justin or angie, so i knew this was an intruder. And my heart sank. Im sure i froze. And a second or two later, the door was shutting and i remember praying, just please take what you want and and just leave us alone. Reporter but, of course, leaving them alone was not what the strange, intrusive presence had in mind. Not even close. This night of terror was only just beginning and no one was prepared for what would happen only seconds later. I heard angie scream, oh, my god, oh, my god. Where does your almondmilk come from . Almond breeze starts here with our almond trees in our blue diamond orchard in california. My parents job is to look after them. And its my job to test the product. 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And it sounded very muffled, so im thinking, that could not be a gunshot. And unaware that her world was quite different now, angie opened her eyes. And i rolled over and saw somebody running out of the bedroom and i knew that was bad. I nudged justin and i said, justin, justin. I heard angie scream, oh, my god. Oh, my god. I knew something terrible had happened. I turned on the light. And i just ran out of the bedroom, down the hall. Did you see him . I didnt. You just knew . Yeah. I looked in the bedroom doorway and i saw justin laying on his back on the right side of the bed with his head tilted. And i could see a bullet hole in his head and i could see blood running down his neck. My instinct was to figure out how they got in the house. We had a really big window. I checked to see if that was closed. And it was. Checked the front door, that was still locked. Saw that the back door was unlocked, and i went and i opened it a little bit. And then i was like, thats not a good idea, so i closed it. Did you understand right away that everything was different, that the man you loved was dead . It was one of those moments where you just wanna go back two minutes. Just two minutes ago, he was laying beside me and he was alive and now hes gone forever. But in that moment, her brain, her fingers, wouldnt cooperate. What they say about not being able to dial 911 in an emergency is very true. I had to try like three different times. Somebody just came in and shot my fiance in the head. Maam, whats your name . Angie. Can you go over and check the status of hes dead. Okay. I know he is. Marie called 911, too. Somebody came in and shot somebody. Do you know who was shot . My son, Justin Michael. A few minutes later, deputies from the Polk County Sheriffs Office arrived and looked around the house as the two women sat in the living room in complete silence. As we were sitting there across from the tv, we noticed that the dvd player had been pulled out and there was a fluorescent yellow sweatshirt laying there, which didnt belong . Didnt belong. We pointed it out to the officer and it was neither one of ours. Was that what happened . Some awful mistake . A robber hitting the wrong place, wrong person . Deputies then told them, get your things, were taking you out of the house. I couldnt go back into the bedroom. I didnt have my glasses on. They were in there. So i said, i need my glasses. She asked me if i would grab her glasses from the nightstand in their bedroom. So i did go back into their bedroom one more time. I looked at justin and i told him goodbye and how much i loved him, and how i couldnt imagine why that had happened to him. Is it even possible to understand what it does to you to look through the door and see your eldest son lying there with a bullet hole in his head . It was something in a 100 million years you could not imagine. Who could have done that to my son, who wouldnt hurt a fly . Had never spoken ill of anybody, or, to my knowledge, had any enemies. It just was unfathomable. The sheriffs deputies took angie and marie outside and put them in separate patrol cars where they sat and watched the activity around them, quite stunned. Before they took her cell phone, marie called her husband, weldon. She begged him to hurry. I wondered when i heard the news, whether they had gotten into the wrong house. I mean, it was so bizarre. Reality failed to gel in weldons head. On that drive from minneapolis down, i mean, i couldnt believe it. I expected to see him there when i got there. I thought it was a mistake. I asked if justin was all right and then she said, no, that he was gone. It was a feeling of isolation and i could see, you know, see people in and out of the house. I could see detectives with flashlights combing the neighborhood and all around his house. Crime scene. Crime scene. It was a very long three hours of my life, just sitting there not knowing what was going on. News reporters were setting up everywhere. And theres so many police cars and they werent saying, we got the guy. And, like, i just felt, they dont have him. They need to catch him. I know im safe, but is everybody else i love safe . Eventually, they drove both women, separately, to the sheriffs headquarters, where they installed them in separate rooms for separate interviews. Because something about this didnt smell right. There was just a lack of emotion, and to me that was very odd. Detectives become concerned about Something Else, too. Did it say anything to you, that these two women in the house, one of them lying right beside the victim were unharmed . Yeah, it was suspicious. Were pretty different. Somos muy diferentes. 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But sure enough, Something Big was going down. Though just what, the deputies wouldnt say. When we talked to neighbors, they were surprised just to see even more than one Police Vehicle in the neighborhood. And then the dci, the division of criminal investigation, van came and thats hard to miss. Its huge. People are coming out with little booties on and full suits, going in an out of the house. Theres crime tape up. And nobodys saying what happened . And neighbors are starting to ask, whats going on here . Anxiety is like a virus. It spread fast in grimes. Yeah, they were nervous. People dont just get shot in grimes. And they knew Justin Michael and angie and couldnt imagine anything happening there. And if reporters and neighbors were mystified about what happened, so was detective Robyn Bartholomew. I was the oncall detective, i got called out at 3 30 in the morning. Who confronted a messy, bloody, crime scene, a victim shot point blank in the head. And here was his fiancee without a mark on her. Blood tends to spatter. But there wasnt a drop on angie. I mean, how far apart were they . Right next to each other. Has that ever happened in your experience that youve encountered that before . Not that ive encountered. And did it say anything to you . That these two women in the house, one of them lying right beside the victim, were unharmed . Yeah, it was suspicious. Yes, and also if the killer was intent on robbery, he certainly didnt succeed. That dvd player pulled out of its place in the living room . That was it, said detective tim hopper. Nothing else was taken or disturbed. Well, it didnt make sense. Did it make sense as a burglary . I mean no. As an attempted burglary . No. And so if it wasnt an attempted burglary, why would somebody be messing around with to stage it. To try to throw people off track. Mind you there was that sweatshirt that didnt belong in the house. Had the killer, in his rush to escape, left it behind . While officers tried to track that down, angie and marie were at the Sheriffs Office in separate interview rooms answering a lot of pointed questions. Why not kill you, too . I dont know if he looked in on angie and justin and justin woke up and he sensed trouble. I dont know. I mean, why not kill angie . And this was weird. Somehow, said detective bartholomew, their tone just didnt seem right. Especially angies. I thought that i guess due to what had just happened, that she would be very emotionally upset. And to me, it was just like a regular interview. It didnt make sense. Shadowy or a black person . I dont know. I didnt see any color. I just saw so youre talking black as in a shadow . Black clothes, yeah. Did that arouse any suspicion, that maybe she was involved in this somehow . I thought so. So detective bartholomew pulled angie and maries 911 calls. Hes dead. Okay. I know he is. Somebody came in and shot somebody. And . Same thing. I just really curiously devoid of emotion . Very much so. I think there was panic. But listening to it, i just think that there was some distance there from the the you know, the caller to the victim. Everybodys still suspect in this because we have to find out why did someone isolate justin and want him dead. And we didnt see a lot of emotion from the mother or angie. And so that was concerning. But ultimately you have to go where the leads take you to. So you do. But just then, the leads were going in circles nowhere. Investigators start digging into justins past, and their line of questioning triggers concerns for angie. I was thinking, was i about to marry somebody that i had no idea who he was . With advil, youll ask. What sore muscles . What pounding head . Advil is. Relief thats fast. Strength that lasts. Youll ask. What pain . With advil. Sleep number 360 smart bed. You can adjust your comfort on both sides your sleep number setting. Can it help us fall asleep faster . Yes, by gently warming your feet. 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Wondered aloud, not so idly, if angie might have known the killer, or, perish the thought, even colluded with that shadowy person, whoever it might be. Like maybe a love interest. Someone in his or her past. More likely hers. Talked with angie about justins relationships. He had no serious relationships prior to her. He did had dated, but no one that seemed to have caused a concern. So i went into angies relationships. Angie had been married before. Divorced in 2010. And the exhusband wasnt a concern as far as no. And there was no particular bad blood . No. Nothing. There was no children involved. There was nothing other than the relationship that ended. But then, angie revealed, she got involved with a guy named andy. Andy wegener. Moved in with him, lived with him for three years. And then, this was unusual, continued living with him even after their romance ended. Andy, or so she said, was well in her past when she met justin. Hard to know what, if anything, to make of that. But then angie told the detective about some strange incidents. Especially peculiar for grimes, sort of thing that just doesnt happen here. It was one night back in november, she said. Shed parked her car on the street overnight in front of justins place. And when she emerged in the morning . I saw the back window had been hit in. And i thought, oh, my gosh. And then i went around saw that two of the other windows had been hit in. She was shocked, she said. Went back to the house to tell justin. They called the police. A Police Officer came and looked at it and noticed that it had been keyed, that it looked like somebody had thrown something at the windshield because there was a big dent on the hood. But that wasnt the only incident, said angie. Somebody got into the backyard, and vandalized justins prized fruit trees. There were branches that were snipped off and eventually killed the trees. Why would somebody come into his yard and ruin things that he had tried to grow . So was the vandalism a warning . Did justin actually understand that he was a target . Maybe angie didnt know her fiance quite as well as she thought she did. After all, executionstyle murders, as the detectives knew very well, often turn out to have something to do with illegal drugs. Did you guys get high . Did you party a little bit . No. No drugs involvement whatsoever . Did justin ever sell drugs . Not that i know of. But detective hopper felt it in his veins. Something about this didnt add up. This morning, justin was singled out and murdered. You wasnt. I know. Marie wasnt. Justin was. Okay. Look at me a second, angie, and listen. There wasnt a burglary in your home. That takes away the randomness. Nothing was taken . I mean as far as were aware of right now. Okay. And somebody came in there for one sole purpose and that was to execute him. So someone was very personal. If for any reasons you would be protecting somebody that you care about, i need to know. Right. Because this is not acceptable. When they were doing their police thing, and coming up with different scenarios, drugs and money, gambling the question just kept being asked, is it possible that these things couldve happened . And of course, everythings a possibility. And for a moment, i was thinking, was i about to marry somebody that i had no idea who he was . Oh, but there were so many questions. One in particular that angie just couldnt seem to answer. Just at a bar. Okay. So i was just all right. Whatever. He said some kind of nasty things about me as a person. In terms of treating sensitivity, 3 days is really fast. The dentist is going to be able to provide that to their patients. Sensodyne rapid relief in my opinion is a game changer. Its going to let the dentist offer their patient sensitivity relief in 3 days. It has a formulation that lays down a barrier of protection against sensitivity. 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Detective bartholomew held her suspicions in check while her partner, detective hopper, continued to press angie about the other men in her life. Very few of those, according to angie. Her exhusband and her exboyfriend andy. And then, three hours into the interview all of a sudden a name came up of someone that actually she had dated. An acquaintance that she had met in between the breakup with andy and her meeting justin. It was not a fullon relationship. Did you just not remember him when we talked about it before . Well, i hadnt i mean i thought about him but it was like a couple months of hanging out and it was like a here or there. And he, i feel like i felt like he wasnt being very serious, so i wasnt being very serious with it. And who was this other guy . His name is dave. Okay, what is dave what . What is his last name now . I just forgot. Itll come to me, im sure. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. I dont know why i cant think of it right now. Wait, she couldnt remember his last name . Which was very odd. When did you first start seeing dave . The weekend after andy and i broke up. It was kind of just like a silly thing and where did you meet him at . Just at a bar. Okay. So i was just all right. Whatever. This guys a funny guy. Angie told detective hopper she didnt spend much time with dave. They mainly texted each other and met up at bars a few times. We had kind of had i guess it was this dayandage relationship, where we only saw each other about once a week and then the rest of our conversations were strictly through text messaging. I dont think we ever spoke on the phone. And it was always just it was very, like, playful in nature almost. Not like a serious type of relationship. But it was intimate . It eventually did get intimate, but not right away. Okay. And then it was kind of like once a week thing. Wed hang out on like friday nights, generally. And then, of course, everything changed. And then i met justin. And she got the feeling justin just might be the real thing. So she started avoiding dave. Did he sense something . Maybe. Thats when dave sent angie a text that referred to a Reality Television show. He had made the comment, im going to get your final red rose. And that, to me, was kind of like thats a little creepy, knowing i didnt feel that same way. Right. You hadnt given him any sign that you felt that way . Right. We have never talked about being exclusive. I mean, when youre seeing somebody maybe once a week and talking through text messaging the other times caught me off guard a little bit. Then, just after her second date with justin thats when i told dave like, i met this other guy, so i had told dave that i was going to have to cancel our plans friday because of this. And, as angie said, when you know you know, remember . So she asked her girlfriends how should i break up with dave . Like, is it appropriate to do this through text messaging . Should i meet up with him . And they were like, no, go ahead and do it through text messaging. You dont owe this guy anything. So she did. Diplomatically. She tried to be kind, she said. I just texted him and i said, hey, i want to be completely upfront and honest with you and ive met somebody else that i want to spend my time with and were done. His response was, i knew you been running around behind my back. And we hadnt seen each other for at least two weeks at this point. Its hardly a relationship. Right. He didnt take it so well. Unpleasant . Yes. I was trying to be kind. He was not. What did he say . He said some kind of nasty things about me as a person. And then at one point he told me to eat [ bleep ] and die. And then that was then followed by niceties and wanting to work things out. Oh . So it was really back and forth all day. And at one point, it became obvious that he wasnt going to let it go. So i just finally quit responding. You never heard from him again . Yeah, he had texted me the next day saying, i dont feel like this is over. Can you give me another chance . I didnt respond to that, so then after that, yes, i never heard from him at all. That was in june 2013, 11 months before justin was shot to death. Angie told the detective all that. So odd, to say the least, that angie swore she could not remember the guys last name. Did you ever think about what his last name is yet . I keep trying to think of it. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. Dave. I do not know why im drawing such a blank. Really . Detective hopper turned up the heat. About one of the first things that i had asked you at the very beginning is who, before justin, who was your relationship, and you said andy. Uhhuh. And you left dave out. Right. For whatever reason, and it doesnt matter at this point either, is there any possibility that with dave or anyone else that while youve been with justin that youve maintained any relationship with anyone . 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I have no plan rate now. Actually were getting along with china right now. I think they want to make a deal much more than i do. Theyre getting a lot of money on tariffs, by the billions. We never get 10 cents from china. Well see what happens. Well be talking to china. Are you worried about how the markets are reacting . No, the markets are doing great. The country is doing great. People were telling me they try to copy our formula. We cut taxes way down, were doing very well. Our country is doing fantastically well. You people want a recession. Maybe thats the way to get trump out. Maybe thats the way we get him out. I dont think that would work because, look, if there is anything, weve got to go into trade negotiations to get it right. But ultimately it will be many times what it was before. Our country is doing really well. We have horrible trade deals, and im straightening them out. The biggest one by far is china. I congratulate the president about everything that the American Economy is achieving. Its fantastic to see that. But just to register the sheep like motive, our view on the trade war, we favor trade peace on the you prefer trade peace well, we think on the whole, the u. K. Has profited massively in the last 200 years from free trade. Thats what we want to stay. Were working to see how about the last three years . Dont talk about the last 200. Animal welfare is off the table . The president made that very clear. There is complete unanimity on that one. Mr. President , [ inaudible question ] were very close to a major deal with japan. As you know, Prime Minister abe and i are really good friends, really good friends. Weve been working on it five months. Bob lighthizer is here someplace. Bob, do you want to Say Something about the deal with japan . [ inaudible ] thats all im going to say. Were working on a billing deal wi big deal with japan. Were close to getting it. What happens in china helps with japan. Thank you all very much. Thank you. This way, guys. Thank you, president. Thank you. We have been listening to President Trump and his breakfast meeting with the Prime Minister of u. K. , Boris Johnson. It is the first meeting that they have had facetoface meetings. There have been several phone calls. Both of them discussing trade, especially trade with china and brexit which is a big part of the agenda for the u. K. There. Also talking about the possibility of a trade deal with japan, which is possibly coming up. This is the first in a series of meetings for the president today. He will also have a one on one meeting with japans shinzo abe as we spoke about, and canadas Justin Trudeau. Just about an hour or so, the president will participate in his first working session of the day with the gathered leaders, also focusing on the Global Economy as well as security. That will do it for us for now. Stay with us for the evening. 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So then i basically asked him, like, theres no way in chance maybe youre visited a friend in grimes tonight . Now why would you bring that up . There had just been, within an hour, a homicide had taken place in grimes. The suspect was still unaccounted for. And you got a guy whos sweating and smelling sweet. Exactly. Hmm. What did he say . I dont even know where the town is. Reporter everything about David Moffitt made the deputy feel anxious. All the hair not on my head, but all the hair on my body was standing on edge. Thats weird. I mean, hes just a regular guy, right . Didnt seem to be armed or anything. Youre a cop and you got your weapon, and youre still feeling nervous . D well, i knew he wasnt armed because i did just a patdown for a weapons before he because if youre going to sit in my car, youre not going to have a weapon on you. In huh. But he still made you nervous . Extremely nervous. Reporter but turned out david hadnt been drinking. There was no reason to arrest him. Still, the deputys instincts kicked in. So i looked through his car and i couldnt find insurance, so i impounded it for not having insurance with an accident. Reporter not that it was drivable anyway. He sent david home in a cab. After reading deputy tarts report, detectives bartholomew and hopper knew they had to act fast. There could be clues, still, on highway 141. And surprises, too. The media people angie and marie saw hovering around the patrol car on that awful may morning had no idea what had just happened in Justin Michaels bedroom in the middle of the night. The reporters knew only this, they had been sent here because of a suspicious death. And it was related somehow to this house. As they waited for somebody to tell them something, they got a tip. Local reporter Stephanie Moore we heard Sheriff Deputies were walking the field along highway 141. That would be the highway from des moines to grimes. They were walking through it. We asked them, are you looking for bodies . No. Are you looking for someone . No. Are you looking for weapons . We cant say. The public is not in danger. What happened in grimes isnt related to this. Walking up and down. Walking in a line so they dont miss anything. Kind of like they do with a missing child. We kind of thought they were looking for a gun or weapon. In fact that small army of cops was looking for anything that looked like evidence. Hours earlier David Moffitts car went off the road and facts were piling up. David had dated angie, worked with justin and ran from a car just six miles away. Of course, that piqued our interest, moved David Moffitt to the top of the list. Prosecutors had been involved all along. We sent patrol officers to that location on highway 141 to see what else they could find in that area that might be of use an telling in the investigation. Thats why locals saw all these Police Officers wandering up and down the field looking for something. They were. They were. Imagine what they found along the ditch in the highway. Probably the most important thing they found a loaded magazine, the same type found in the crime scene. The shell casing at the crime scene found the ammunition found in the ditch on highway 141. Right in the ditch where the car crashed. On the highway, a little further down, but within 500 yards of where the crash was occurred. They also located in that ditch some paper targets that you would use for shooting target practice. Some shooters ear muffs, a camo neck cloth that youd wear you could wear as a mask. Reporter like somebody preparing for an act of terror or an execution. Clearly, David Moffitt was their killer. Had to be. And then . You know what they say about assumptions. Those cops found Something Else near the accident scene. Sort of thing that could make a person wonder, what in heavens name is going on here . It was one little thing. In a shoebox. The shoes were not in it but there was various paperwork. One of the things that were found was a receipt from a local car dealership and the receipt was for a purchase of three oil changes, had the name of andrew wegener. Reporter andrew wegener, the boyfriend angie lived with before justin. Weird. Another guy without a criminal record. Another apparently ordinary person, a des moines funeral director, in his case. And yet, there it was in black and white, among all of those other pieces of evidence, andrew wegener. How do he explain that . At that time, you dont. So did andy wegener kill Justin Michael, the man who replaced him in angies heart . So we immediately went to andys place of business and brought him back to headquarters for questioning, and we ask him about his relationship with angie. And more to the point, perhaps, his relationship or the lack of it with justin. Have you ever met justin . Once. And where was that . It was at joes pub in johnston. Just random runin or was it a gathering . No, it was a gathering with kind of a group of friends. It was an engagement party. Was justin the person who she was in a relationship after you broke up with her or was there someone else . I there might have been somebody else in between. I dont have any idea. But you dont know . No. The last time you got in touch with angie would have been when . She sent a text message to me that said happy birthday and i said okay, thanks. And that was it. And that was it. Im asking andy about whether or not hes missing anything. And he never tells me about the receipt for the oil changes. Reporter the receipt in the shoebox, the reason for suspicion, and all these questions. And i stay on the receipt because thats where my interests are at. And he believes that hes in possession of the receipt. Andy said he thought the receipt was either in his car or in his house. If it turned up somewhere else, how would that happen . If its somewhere other than your car or at your home it blew away . Thats about it. Any ideas how it could turn up in this investigation . No. Then detective hopper asked andy about guns. Do you go shooting at all . Shooting . Yeah. Do you have i have a 12gauge. I havent shot it in six years. Do you have any handguns . No. Okay. And what he did the night before. Yesterday, what time did you get off work . Yesterday, i got off at 4 00 . Okay. Can you walk me through what you occurred from 4 00 yesterday until we showed up at your doorstep this morning and you act so thrilled to see us . Andy said he spent the evening and night with his current girlfriend. So you spent the night at your girlfriends . Oh, yeah. How long has she been there . Three years. Do they have good security there . Uh, no, not really. Is it gated to come in . Cameras, anything like that . No. He has spent the night with his current girlfriend at that time. And we verified that before he left the office, before he had a chance to make a phone call or anything else. At least according to his girlfriend. According to his girlfriend. Yes. And it would give him an alibi for the time of the it would give him an alibi. Murder. Whether that was preconceived or whether or not that was legitimate, we we did not know. Reporter andy swore detectives would find no evidence against him in grimes. When was the last time you were in grimes . For any reason. Theres a Basketball Court in the u, is what they call it. That was awhile ago. Whats a while mean to you . Three weeks to a month three or four weeks at least. Its been a while. Theres a bunch of guys that get together, we pay five bucks and are able to shoot around in this place for a couple hours. Let me double check, make sure were good to go. Sure. The detectives exhausted their questions, took andy back to work, apparently in the clear. Unaware that andys name was about to turn up one more time in a very suspicious place. 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As much in love as angie said she was, the detectives had learned over the years, you never know. They needed to search her phone, see who she talked to in the hours and days before justin was shot to death. They also got a search warrant for David Moffitts house. And inside . No, they didnt find the murder weapon either. But they did find these strange notes, seemed to have been written by someone who had been watching justin and angies neighborhood. Those surveillance notes listed addresses in the immediate area around the crime scene. And they were very specific about when neighbors were turning on and off their lights. The creek behind the house is is it wide enough where i can jump across that . Obviously, it looked like a way to make an escape once the murder was done. Reporter but then they found what looked like the mother lode a bill of sale. It was in andy wegeners name reporter yeah but there it was in David Moffitts house. Reporter that is, the bill of sale for a. 9 mm carbine. And the name on the document, bold as brass, was indeed andy wegener. How was that remotely possible . Reporter its more evidence to suggest that theres some sort of conspiracy involved here. Its too early to really rule anybody out. We wanted to find out if andy was the actual purchaser of that weapon. Fortunately, that bill of sale gave us the lead to where the weapon came from. Reporter his name was right here drew bahlmann. And here he is. Hes a Smalltown High School english teacher in a little place called signourney, 90 miles or so from des moines. There is something you can do with a degree in english then . Yes, there is. And i love my job. An english teacher who likes to tell stories. And this one . Sort of thing that would make an interesting plot for a novel, wouldnt it . For a novel, perhaps, yes. Drew is a selfdescribed nerd. He is also a target shooter, and a metal detector enthusiast. Hes forever digging up old coins and such. Loves it. Mind you, theres only so much a person can ferret out using equipment thats well, to say downmarket may sound cruel, but the metal detector that i wanted was about 600. Are you out of your mind . No. Reporter you buy a 600 metal detector . Uhhuh. Thats even like the midrange. You can spend upwards of 9,000 on a metal detector if you wanted to. Youre getting towards being uppercase nerd . Very much so, yes. So he figured hed sell the gun, and use the cash to buy that new metal detector. Its what the state of iowa calls a long gun. Its something that you put to your shoulder and you shoot like a rifle or shotgun. So i listed it online, on armslist, its like craiglist for guns. Reporter whatd you ask for it . 360. Reporter about a month later, he got a nibble via email. I told him that i needed cash and i needed a photo i. D. So i knew he was who he said he was, and that he was at least 21. Reporter who did he say he was . He said his name was andy wegener, and that was the email address that he had contacted me from, was andy wegener somethingorother at gmail. Com. Reporter whered you meet . I work parttime at a gas station. Its public, there are cameras in the area and if something bad were to happen, i know of at least two or three people that are in the area a lot that would probably come to my rescue. Is that the kind of thing you have to do when you sell a weapon . Thats the thing i do when i sell a weapon because ive got entirely too much to lose. I have a family, i have a job that, you know i love them both. I did not want to jeopardize those. We met at the station. I showed him the rifle in the back end of my car, and then i filled out a bill of sale, because i wanted to make sure that this was trackable. I kept a copy. He kept a copy. We reviewed everything to make sure that it was what he wanted and make sure everything was, you know, up to snuff. Reporter you saw his photo i. D. . I saw his photo i. D. Reporter and how carefully did you, you know, store the information . Im kind of a pack rat by nature. Its my my teacher nature, you dont throw anything away. So all of the email conversations that he and i had, i kept. All the Text Messages between he and i, i kept. And i still had pictures that i had originally posted on armslist, those were still on my home computer. And as he was leaving, again, to cover myself, i wrote down the license plate number. You are a careful guy. I am. Was he a nice fellow . For the very limited interaction we had, yeah. He seemed very nice, very normal. He asked me how to load it. I showed him how. And that was it . Off he went . Off he went. And then, a few days later, the School Secretary gave drew a message. A polk county detective wanted to talk to him right away. And my very first thought was, i interpreted the law wrong when i had looked up the iowa codes, and im going to jail. You immediately thought about selling that weapon . Thats the first thing that came to my mind. Why else would a polk county detective be calling me . And i was going to jail. Scary thought . It was very scary because i had taken so many precautions. I called the detective. And he said, drew, did you sell a firearm recently . And that was my second thought, yes, i am going to jail. I have completely screwed everything up. And i told him you know, be forthright, be honest i said, yes, i did. He asked me to describe what it was. I told him it was a. 9 mm carbine. He said, drew, we have reason to believe that that weapon was used in the commission of a crime. And my heart just sank. What happened . I have no idea. And he told me it was used in a murder, and i about dropped my phone. Thats what that does to you. I i unwittingly took part, was an accessory in somebodys death. I felt terrible about that. You felt that way, that you were an accessory . How would you feel . I mean, i sold the i sold something to a man, to a person who later used that to take somebodys life. Terrible. Just oh god. And i still today, ive rationalized it, ive gone to a counselor about it. I still feel bad about it. Whats the expression . Guns dont kill people people kill people. And i still i still believe that. But i provided him that method. Later that day, detective hopper drove out to meet with drew, who turned over all the emails and Text Messages he had saved them all as well as photos of the rifle, three ammo magazines, a scope and red laser pointer attached to the weapon, part of the deal. And i asked him if he had any shell casings from the weapon that he sold. He went, left, and came back shortly after and had 63 casings. Reporter wow. Hes a person who like to keep things. Yes. And some most of those casings were tulammo,. 9 mm. The same ones that were found at the murder scene. And at the crash site. But who bought the carbine . We still dont know where were at with david versus andy. So, could drew i. D. The guy in a photo lineup . Detectives show drew pictures of david and andy. He said, thats very odd. He said, this is strange. With advil, youll ask. What sore muscles . What pounding head . Advil is. Relief thats fast. Strength that lasts. Youll ask. What pain . With advil. Sleep number 360 smart bed. Can it help keep us asleep . Yes, it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. And now, all beds are on sale save 50 on the sleep number 360 limited Edition Smart bed. Plus free home delivery. Ends saturday. I really thought it was a random act. A home invasion. So during the course of that day, you were completely buffaloed . Correct. While the investigation raced forward, the Polk County Sheriffs Office told Justin Michaels family virtually nothing. Didnt tell them theyd found the man who sold the murder weapon, nor that they had to figure out who he actually sold it to. Because surely whoever bought the gun must have been the killer. I asked him at that point to look at the photo lineups. The first set of six photographs i showed him contained the photograph of David Moffitt. Mr. Bahlmann looked at it and he said, i cant be 100 certain. He said, the guy had a hat on, had sunglasses on. He goes, i wish i would have had him take it off. Then he pointed at the picture of David Moffitt and said, im 90 sure thats the person that i sold the gun to. What happened when he looked at the picture involving andy wegener . When i showed him the photo lineup with andy wegener, he looked at it and immediately looked at it and pointed to andy wegener and said, thats very odd. He said, this is strange. He was confused. He goes, that looks like the i. D. That looks like the person i sold the gun to. He picked out both of them, so we still have our questions. It was all very confusing. It didnt help that David Moffitt and andy wegener look similar. So one last thing to try. Earlier, when deputies searched David Moffitts house, they found the bill of sale for that carbine. But they also discovered a receipt for lemonade and a candy bar bought at a Dollar General store in the very town where the rifle was purchased. So i requested video from that store. A person walks into the store, wearing the hat, but the sunglasses are hanging off of his shirt. And the video depicts David Moffitt. Well, well, well. And he purchases a lemonade and a candy bar. Which may have settled the question of who picked up the murder weapon. But here was another question. How did David Moffitt get hold of andy wegeners i. D. . But the detectives had all kinds of reasons for wanting to talk to David Moffitt. They picked him up about 15 hours after the shooting. Took him to headquarters. Installed him in an interview room. And . No dice. He requested a lawyer. And just like that, youre done. I sat there for approximately an hour with him, offering him a phone book, a means to reach his attorney. Because he still wanted to attempt to talk with them, even if his attorney was present. He never reached an attorney. David moffitt wouldnt talk, but it hardly mattered. The evidence they already had was enough to arrest him, and charge him with first degree murder. By now, detectives understood that angie had nothing to do with the murder. That what seemed like a lack of emotion in angies demeanor and maries, too, for that matter, was shock. Pure shock. In fact, the thought that david could be the man who killed the love of her life hit angie while she was still being questioned. And finally, after her apparent calm, she was overcome. When dave came up and we talked about that. And the detective came back with a picture of him do you know this person . Thats dave. And i said, thats him. And i immediately started shaking. And was very visibly upset. Im just so that he had something to do with it and what if i have caused all of this . And the detective was like, whats going on . And i said, if hes the one who did it, its all my fault. What do you mean by that . Because i was the one who had broken off the relationship. I was the one who ignored him the next day. You really think if you hadnt ignored him, hed suddenly become mr. Sweetness and light . Well, no, but i just felt like it was i brought this monster into justins life. But the prosecutors needed more evidence if they wanted to prove that David Moffitt was the man angie saw as a monster. How, for example, did david get an i. D. With andy wegeners name on it . Unless andy was somehow involved . One of the discoveries during that first search warrant was a computer box for a laptop. And that laptop was never found during that first search warrant. So the prosecutors wrote a second search warrant. And voila they found it. But maybe too late. They discovered it in the bottom of a red tub that had a few inches of water in the bottom of it. And you know how computers hate water. But the waterlogged laptop wasnt all they found. The red tub ended up being a gold mine of evidence. Like what . They found ammunition that ended up being consistent with the ammunition found at the crime scene. And remember that shoebox they found near the car crash . It was a nevados brand shoebox. And in David Moffitts red tub . What do you know. In that red tub were those nevados shoes, size 11. Its almost like he was laying the trap for himself. Absolutely. They sent the wet laptop off to the computer lab, hoping maybe the techs could find something on it. And surprise, surprise, they did. And off of that computer, we were able to find the work that David Moffitt had done to create a fake i. D. In andy wegeners name. Thats the one david presented to the school teacher, drew bahlmann. He also created a fake andy wegener email address and stole that oil Service Receipt from andys car. All of which made it obvious, said the prosecutors, David Moffitt planned to get away with murder by framing a perfectly innocent man, andy wegener. What kind of a mind is behind that sort of behavior . Very cold, very calculating. There was a tremendous amount of planning and premeditation that went into this murder. And he tried to execute it so that he would not be blamed, that he would get away with it. And remember that sweatshirt left behind after the shooting, as if the killer had been sloppy . In the sweatshirt was a boat registration that we could not figure out why it was there and what its meaning was at the time. Ultimately, several months later, we learned that that boat registration belonged to the father of the registered sex offender that lived within a few blocks of the crime scene. 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We are seeing the president enter for the larger Group Session where we will have the leaders of the seven nations and, of course, the host here is emmanuel macron, president of france, who has set the agenda. This first session was one requested by President Trump where they will be dealing with matters related to the Global Economy. A lot of the other topics that World Leaders want to talk about are things arguably of less importance to President Trump, dealing with climate change, one of the banner themes of this meeting is inequality. President trump really concerned about matters of the economy and trade. Reporters had a chance to talk to the president during that breakfast meeting with johnson, asked him about his ongoing trade battle with china. And one of the things that really stands out about that is one of the reporters in the press pool, that small group rotating among our larger group of White House Press reporters, said, do you have any second thoughts, mr. President , about escalating the tariff battle with china . And he said, maybe, why not . Yes, i have second thoughts about everything. Notable because, of course, President Trump usually projects a much stronger fight attitude about these matters, and that was certainly curious. Another reporter followed up and asked again. Second thoughts about escalating the trade battle with china . And he said, yes, he does. The president was also asked if other leaders here had encouraged him to back off of his trade battle with china and he said, no, they had not, and yet we had been hearing from especially the coverage from other World Leaders coming into the meeting that they were, in fact, planning to try to discourage the president in this way. Emmanuel macron himself had addressed the french people before the start of this meeting, talking about the war on commerce as being bad for everyone. There was a working dinner last night, and the leaders of these seven nations sat around a table together and had sort of the initial conversations about a range of topics. So this is well underway now, and this is the more formal part of the sessions. It looks more businesslike, apart from some of the things that include a social element with the breakfast and the dinner and the different delegations as a part of this. In addition, the president has other oneonone meetings today. Hell meet with the japanese Prime Minister shinzo abe, cann kas Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and australia as well. It is a significant set of International Meetings and yet there are questions about what will come out of this. The president has been pushing back on twitter and in his public statements about the relationships, insisting that there arent frayed tensions between himself and other leaders here, insisting that things are going well, and that the conversations are good. Of course, part of the backdrop is that the president has at times in these meetings in years past had very tough conversations with his counterparts on the world stage. Well be watching closely to see how we measure that and what the public statements will be, what some of the body language will be, what some of the topics when they take questions, when they talk about the issues that challenge all of these nations as this unfolds today. Dara . Kelly, we know that the president has been discussing this trade war with china and the possibility escalation, rather, the deescalation of it. What about finalizing a trade deal with japan . We know hes going to be talking to shinzo abe coming up later. Has there been any more talk about a possible you know, getting to a final decision on that trade deal . Reporter the president said publicly today that he believes that the u. S. Is close to a deal with japan. Perhaps the setting where he is meeting in a oneonone setting with abe today could be a place where well hear more details about that. So the president trying to project optimism. Also talking about the importance of trade with all of these countries, and the fact that the tensions with china may make the deal the negotiations with japan have an impact there. Certainly trying to deal with that. Also with the United Kingdom, trying to have Bilateral Agreement with the United States and the United Kingdom trying to work on that. So there are several different negotiations that are happening simultaneously, but the president projecting confidence. That is one of his strategies in these sessions, to try to talk in a positive way going forward. But we dont have details yet, but certainly the abe meeting is important. And among these leaders, youve got a macron relationship and an abe relationship as among the closest of any of the World Leaders with President Trump who has at times had rougher relationships with some of his counterparts on the world stage. Shinzo abe has spent a lot of time with President Trump as has french president macron. Darcy . Nbcs kelly odonnell. Kelly, thank you very much. As kelly mentioned, the first order of the day was the pm Boris Johnson and now a meeting for the g7. So we will have updates for you throughout the night and breaking news when it happens right here on msnbc. Now back to our program in session. Its dateline. In his closing, prosecutor Steve Foritano told the jury in what must have happened. David moffitt, i think, was obviously fixated on angie ver huel. That she broke off with him, which caused him some pain and hurt. A and then that wound was probably reopened when he started working with justin. And justin wound up getting engaged. 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Rarely is a prosecution so replete with evidence of a killers motives, and awful deeds. Rarely does that evidence so clearly portray such planning, such deviousness. A man who knew exactly what he was doing when he murdered Justin Michael, said the prosecution. And then . It was time for the defense. That was the worst day of the trial. Defense attorney keith rigg did not dispute the wealth of evidence the state presented. All true, said mr. Rigg. David moffitt did kill justin, said the defense. Because he was legally insane, and, therefore, not guilty. What the facts are in this case arent really in dispute. The fact that this happens because of a mental disease isnt really in dispute, because this makes no sense otherwise. What happens here, for lack of a better term, is crazy. And why should the jury believe that . This was the defenses star witness dr. Peter breggin, a famous, if controversial psychiatrist, with a resume of television and other appearances in which he has condemned the use of psychotropic drugs. Dr. Breggin testified that david had been taking antidepressants on and off for years, and that, what david did, was the drugs fault. So i think the whole thing evolves out of a progressive hammering of his brain by the drugs. It was druginduced violence, the doctor told the jury. Druginduced murder. Back in the courtroom, angie listened to this, and upset would not be quite the right word. It was laughable almost, and just that you can how much money they had to spend to find this guy who is going to say exactly what the defense wants him to say. Were you afraid the jury would buy it . Um, of course, youre always a little afraid. Because its scary to think that he could potentially get off with the insanity plea. And the more he talked, the more it was it was frustrating to sit there and listen to him. He walked into somebodys bedroom with an assault weapon. Yes. Its horrible. He told you he thought about whether it was right or wrong, right . No, he told me in the beginning he thought about whether it was right or wrong, and then it didnt enter his mind anymore. It was like he was in a video game or like in an activity that was outside of the normal reality. He even thought about killing somebody else. Toward the end, he had just become a victim, i believe, a victim of a manic episode driven by the drugs. Its just not him. Its the jury that gets to make the decision, right . Of course. You never know quite what a jurys going to do. Its always an anxious moment when youre trying to wait for them to return a verdict. Oh, but it wasnt a moment. Hour after hour, they waited. And then, almost seven hours later the judge asks do we have a verdict . The jury says they do. We find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree. If David Moffitt felt anything in that moment, he didnt show it. Nothing. Stone cold reaction. Almost gave you chills up your spine. The insanity defense clearly did not work. The threshold that you have to reach for an insanity defense is that you dont understand the nature and consequences of your actions, or you dont understand the difference between right and wrong. Thats an incredibly high threshold. You look at the degree of premeditation, the degree of planning that went into that. Those are not the actions of an insane person. It does nothing to bring justin back. But it would have been horrific if he had not been found guilty, so it did help. And can you imagine if that person was still free in our society . Who knows who he would have attacked next, and he would have. I think he would have. I think he enjoyed the planning. The planning, and seeing if he could accomplish his task. Verdicts are always hard, i think, because nobody ever wins in this situation. His family is obviously still in pain. The Moffitt Family obviously in pain, as well. So there really is no winner here. We want to hold him responsible for what he did, and the jurys verdict did that. Would they have caught him without those lucky breaks . Had David Moffitt not lost control of his car on that gravel road. Had the cop not spotted the wreck off in the dark. If you hadnt stopped, if youd just went on your merry way my involvement was is just the citizen driving up the road stopping to check on somebody that morning, you know . Had the deputys instinct not pushed him to seize davids car . He probably would have been caught, eventually. But what do you think about this now, when you look back on it . Thankful. Very thankful for that i, one, trusted my gut, because were trained do to that from day one. Because its the only thing you really got to back yourself up on, calls when youre by yourself. Sure. If somebody seems a little hinky, maybe he is. Yeah. Maybe you just need to investigate it further. Its not prying, its trying to figure out if theres something more to the story than what youre hearing. And a lot of the times when you trust your gut, its right. David moffitt is appealing his conviction, and neither he nor his attorney agreed to be there is no suspense in iowa, the sentence for murder is mandatory life in prison without parole, cold comfort for justins family. Only photos now of him, and memories, of the good person he was. Habitat for humanity, his favorite charity, built a house in his honor. His colleagues at wells fargo worked on it. Its a perfect memorial, i think, for him. He would like to see something good come out of the terrible thing that happened. Theres a thing that happens to people when they truly grieve. It isnt voluntary, and it takes a long time. Grief is is a wave, and sometimes thats it just fills you and it takes you away. And it happens less frequently now than it did six or nine months ago. But its still debilitating, and we knew then that physically he was gone and in our hearts, we still havent let him go. And its just still hard to believe that a person could be that evil. Evil is the only word i can think of, inhuman. To do Something Like that. He just seems like, you know, he was spoiled. He didnt get his way and he took justins life for no reason. And the woman at the center of it all, what kind of a life would she have had with him . A thought perhaps best packed away. Like a lot of things. Had the had the Wedding Dress. Had the houses booked. Had the venue booked. Had catering booked. I mean, we were just a little over two months out. Yeah. Boy, oh, boy. A Wedding Dress is such a symbol. What do you do with a thing like that in a situation that youre in . Havent even looked at it. Whered you put it . Its in my moms basement. Shes moved a couple of times and its in her basement. What are these things anyway . He says theyre these little falcons. He goes they watch over the dead, jimmy, he goes they do. What if someone asked you to risk your life . What if i get shanked, what if i get killed. To go undercover into one of the countrys most dangerous prisons. Once they stepped out the door, i was on my own. To help catch a killer. She had such a zest for life. Young girls were being murdered. I cant imagine sending my