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So why were police at a dead end . Enter this guy. He sees things other cops dont see . Phenomenal. They call him the evidence whisperer. Hes about to crack this case before your eyes. The answer was in the details. It was right there. And you wont believe how. You walked out of there thinking i spooked him. It worked. I wasnt sure. Sometimes the clues are as clear as the sky, but other times you have to know where to look to see the truth. This man has made a career of noticing what others do not. Whats his reputation . Meticulous investigator. Just pores over the volumes of evidence and finds things that other investigators did not find. The evidence whisperer. Correct. That night i went out dancing. Does this man act guilty . Does he know more than hes saying . I didnt know anything was going on. All right . I was just, wheres lindsey, okay . What about this man . Can you believe the story hes telling . I was supposed to pick her up twice. And she was so out of character. She didnt show up on either day. The evidence whisperer wasnt present at either of those interviews. But watching them helped him solve the mystery of what happened to a vivacious young woman and bring answers to the mother who loved her. I was always proud of her. She was a real fighter. Lindsey arrived on july 22, 1980. She was the youngest of three. Maybe that fighting spirit isnt visible if her photos, but her mother nancy says it was always there. Lindsey had a passion for animals. She helped out in her spare time at a local shelter. Kim davidson who worked at lindseys middle school remembers Young Lindsey also had a sense of compassion. Standing outside, i was freezing cold and i didnt bring a jacket that day. And i felt these little hands up on my shoulder and a sweater come up around me, and i turned around and it was lindsey, and she said i just cant stand watching you shiver and wrapped me up in her sweater. Lindsey would lie about her age so she could give blood. Remarkable itself because lindsey struggled with her own disabilities. Her left arm was paralyzed. Her left leg impaired. Did she ever talk about how she had become disabled . She brought it up to my and said she was in a car accident and was thrown when see was a little girl, but very, very matter of fact, not poor me or not feel sorry for me or anything like that. But growing up, lindsey needed so much care. Her mother nancy was with lindsey like her shadow. Somebody had to be with her 24 hours a day. And that was you. Yes. It was her and i alone. She was my only purpose, in my life, is to make her as normal as she could be. By the time kim met lindsey, lindseys dad and brothers had moved away. Kim remembers a very tight family unit of just two. How close were lindsey and nancy . Unbelievably, extremely. As she got older that changed. She wanted her own identity, changed the spelling of her name from this, to this. By high school, there were girlfriends, even some boy friends. And by the time she was 20, after so many years of mom and daughter being each others best friends and confidantes, lindsay began to keep some things to herself, like where she was really headed one night in february 2001. Does it make any sense that she would lie to you about what she was going to do that night . Ive never known her to lie to me, but, you dont know what you dont know. It was a friday night. Lindsay was in college part time and working but still living at home. She told her mom that instead of their usual friday night dinner she was staying the night with a girlfriend named andrea, someone nancy had never met. And then a young man named chris came to the door to pick lindsay up. She introduces you to this guy, chris. Did chris say hello to you . Uhhuh. Was he polite, have good manners . Mmhm. But nancy says something felt wrong. I had a feeling about him. What feeling . I dont know. But you put it aside. Mmhm. Of course nancy was used to things feeling wrong. Shed spent so many years worrying about lindsay. It was a struggle to let go, but she did. The last thing i said to her was remember your seat belt. And she looks over her shoulder and says back at you, mom, love you. Thats the last thing she said to me. Nancy locked up the house and went to bed. The next day, lindsay was supposed to call after she was done tutoring two girls from the neighborhood. But when the call never came, nancy drove over and found out lindsay never showed up at her job. All of a sudden, my daughter is not where shes supposed to be. Shed taught these little girls for about four months about. And you had no way of reaching her. I had no way. Nancy was frantic. I started calling hospitals, the morgue. Thats how desperate i was to see if there was a jane doe in the morgue. There was no jane doe, and there was no lindsay. Most people who disappear like that, they come back within a couple of days. If not 24 hours, yes. Is that what you thought was going to happen . I think we did. Corrine is a detective. You had no unidentified bodies. We had no unidentified bodies. You checked the er. We checked everything. We checked everybody, everything. There was just no sign. It was just as if shed vanished. When we come back, lindsay had a secret that shed kept from just about everyone. Before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, marie could only imagine enjoying freshly squeezed orange juice. Now no fruit is forbidden. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . For allday, allnight protection. If your dishwasher doesnt get dishes completely dry. Try finish jetdrys new stronger formula. It dries 100 better than detergent alone even plastics. Get dishes drier than you ever thought possible. Try finish jetdry. Calyoure gonna love this. Rs. New coppertone sport clear. Not thick, not hot, not messy, just clear, cool, protected. Coppertone sport clear. 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It was a speech Corrine Loomis had heard before. Its typical with family members when they report a missing person, sometimes they give you the idea its an idyllic family life, that if we dont paint a sympathetic picture were not going to work hard. And i think that was a little bit of nancy. The pd was working the case. They brought in the usual suspects, like the boyfriend. When you guys were dating, she hasnt been dating anyone else. No. His name was matthew ramirez. He was at college with lynsie. Theyd been off and on a little bit. But then. She was like, i want to break up. What was off was soon back on. Lynsie and matt were back together in time for the weekend, but not in time to make plans for that friday night. Maybe ill go to san diego. I told her, have fun, be careful, okay . She goes, okay. Then, in came the last person known to have seen her. Chris mcamis, 21 years old, out of school. He told the cops he was unemployed. Lynsie had met him through friends about four months prior. And it turned out he never drove lynsie to andree kras house for a sleepover. Chris said that was a lie lynsie made up for her mother. The real plan was to go clubbing all night in san diego. She goes, dont tell my mom that were going to san diego, because my mom wont let us go or wont let me go or something hike that. And definitely dont tell her that were clubbing. Chris told police that when their night of clubbing went bust they went home earlier than expected. He dropped off the other girls and headed to lynsies house. Chris said it was after 4 00 in the morning when he finally got to lynsies neighborhood. Lynsie was worried that her mom might hear his truck pull up at that hour, so chris says lynsie asked to be dropped off here at the corner. That sounded strange to police, until they heard from friends that she had asked to be dropped off here. Chris said i drove home and police even found a photo from a bank atm of what looked hike chriss truck heading north on the right street at the right time. To the cops, chris story added up. And that was when police learned matthew and chris were not the only men in lynsies life. There was someone else, whom both matthew and chris had mentioned to investigators, an older man who drove lynsie around. No one knew his name. They had heard lynsie refer to him as her friend. All anybody knows about him, knows him by. As her friend . Yeah. Nancy had no idea lynsie was friends with any older man. She was about to find out. Two days after lindsey van ishs you get a phone call. Yes. Youre pretty much at your wits end. Yes. And the phone rings and its a guy named marty. Did you know a guy named marty . No. As far as you know, did lindsey know a guy named marty . No. He said he had money of lynsies that she needed for tuition. None of that made sense to nancy. After lynsie goes missing, nancy gets a phone call from a guy named marty. Marty rossler. And what does he say to her . Marty says that hes befriended lynsie, is concerned because he hadnt heard from her. What did you hearne about marty rossler . Marty rossler was not marty rossler. Marty rossler was really marty preginser. He hadnt told his wife about the relationship. He toil police ed aoften pick lynsie up and give her rides, and that was about it. Marty was 58. And she was 20. And they were boyfriend girlfriend . Dont think so. So Police Brought in marty. Over two days they recorded those interviews. At times on video and sometimes on audiotape. Whens the last time you saw lynsie . A week ago now. No. I dont think so. Absolutely. No. Absolutely not. Marty said that he had last seen lynsie the day that she went to san diego on that friday. Did you believe him . We really didnt believe him. They didnt believe him because of a tip theyd received. A clerk at a local Clothing Store had called to say shed seen lynsie and a much older man who matched martys description, together at her store, afte day lynsie went missing. I flat wasnt there. I have been in that store. Im easily identified, okay, probably every place ive been someone would know that i was in there with her, okay. It was a very long, very long interview. Friendly . No. No. I remember drilling down on him, because i really thought that he might know where lynsie was. Youre a parent . Yes. How many kids do you have . Two. If you had a kid vaporized, vanished in thin air, would your heart not be broken . Oh, absolutely. Do you not feel some compassion for nancy . Unbelievable. I think this is a nice girl, and, you know, this familys had their share of hardships, and this is just, you know, i mean, i feel so, you know, helpless. I dont think you are helpless. I think you can help us. Marty insisted that he couldnt, that he didnt know what had happened to lynsie. Detectives werent buying. Either by accident . Accidents happened . Never touched her. No. Never touched her. This girl is have you put her somewhere where shes left . No. No. Police searched martys home and found nothing. No proof that marty had anything to do with lynsies disappearance. So they moved on to a new suspect, someone closer to lynsie than anyone else on earth. Just betweand bucket is such a. Well i switched to swiffer wet jet and its awesome. Its an allinone that absorbs dirt and grime deep inside. And it helps prevent streaks and haze. Stop cleaning. Start swiffering nexgard chew comes power, confidence, reassurance youre doing whats right to protect your dog from fleas and ticks for a full month. This one little nexgard chew is the 1 vet recommended protection. And its the only chew fda approved to prevent infections that cause lyme disease. Plus, its safe for puppies. Theres a lot of power in this one little nexgard chew. Nexgard. What one little chew can do. Nexgard. Its snowtime baby. [ screaming ] oh, its just this weird little guy. Ow ow, ow, ow ow, ow, ow [ screaming ] not cool. Nancy and lynsie had been together all lynsies life. Now, alone, nancy waited, ticking off the days. In the dark about where her daughter was, and about the pace of the investigation. Police were not keeping her in the loop. So nancy was delighted when they called to say they were coming to visit. You look at the boyfriend, matthew. Mmhm. You look at marty, the older guy, the relationship nobody knew about. He denies it. Right. You look at chris. He says i dropped her off, i never saw her again. Right. And you look at lynsies mother. We did look at lynsies mother. We had to. So i made my cookies and all my silly stuff that i always do. Some coffee. Yeah. But the cops werent coming for coffee. They arrived with a search warrant, shovels and cadaver dogs. I didnt know what a search warrant was. The house nancy and lynsie had once shared was torn apart. How much of a suspect was nancy . I dont know that nancy was on the radar for a long time. She was on the radar long enough to be able to set her aside. After that search, they did just that. They believed this anguished mother had nothing to do with the disappearance of her daughter. So they took nancy off the list. They also took off the boyfriend, matthew. He had an alibi that held up, putting him somewhere else at the time lynsie went missing. So that left just two. I havent seen her since that day. Marty, whom police didnt trust because of his secret relationship with lynsie, and because he had lied about his identity. And the man who dropped lynsie off at that corner, the last person to see her before she vanished. Chris mcamis. Go on in here and grab a seat at the end. April 2002, more than a year after lynsie went missing, detectives decided to start over. They brought chris mcamis back to see if his story still held up. I really would like to think that lynsie has been, like, either abducted or somethings happened to her. Like what . Id really rather think that shes with friends or Something Like that. Police turned up the heat. What type of, in my pollyanna mind, in a perfect world, she could be someplace. Its a possibility shes dead. Right. Police thought chris seemed oddly calm, talking about a friend who may have been murdered. Now, if it turns out somebody killed her, what do you think should happen . Find them. Find them, then what . They go to jail . How long should they go to jail . As long as it takes. Like what . Go to jail for a while. Thats as strong as you could get out of him. Thats as strong as we could get out of him. Not that he ought to go to hell or id personally electrocute him. She was my friend, she wouldnt hurt a fly, there was nothing. His lack of emotion was suggestive that perhaps chris should move to the top of the list, but it was not evidence. After the interview, chris mcamis was free to leave, and detectives werent any closer to learning what happened to Lynsie Ekelund, and neither was nancy, who was convinced her daughter would one day just come home. You thought that one day she would walk back through the door . Yes. She believed it because she wanted to, and, because over the years, several people had told her theyd seen lynsie. They never saw the front of her face. They always saw the back of her, and i held onto every word they said. Her friend kim remembers how hard it was on nancy, thinking lynsie had just left her. She went through the period of being angry at her and thought maybe she is. Maybe she did leave me. And she threw some of her pictures out and clothes out. She threw lynsies stuff away . She did because she was so angry and thought how could she do that . By 2008, it was clear the pd had hit that wall. They would need help on this one. And who they needed was a guy named larry. Tell me about larry. Larry is, larry is phenomenal. Phenomenal because what, he sees things other cops dont see . Phenomenal because he sees things cops dont see. I dont know anybody who could have done a better job than larry. The evidence whisperer was about to listen to what the facts of this case were really saying. You bet. That picture of the truck spotted on the night of the crime . Something about it just doesnt seem right. And the evidence whisperer is all over it. Its tough to quit smoking cold turkey. So chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. With chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting so when the day arrives, youll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye. When you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. 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In fact, larry is meticulously slow. And that was just what this cold case needed. Was there anything in the original investigation that struck you as something that you needed to reexamine . Everything. Everything that had led Placentia Police into that wall, trying to decide between two suspects. Im concerned about this girl. Okay. You know, and shes missing. Marty, lynsies older friend who kept their relationship a secret and lied about his name. And chris in my heart, it seems like she still might be alive. The last person known to have seen lynsie. Any more on your part as to who was the more likely suspect . I dont know until i get into it. You are a guy who believes guilt is in the details. And innocence. Larry even considered another possibility, could it have been random, someone who had seen lynsie at just the wrong time. So you have a good guy hoping a girl drops out of a car at 4 24 in the morning. It happens. You weigh it. You go, is that a good possibility . Probably not, but still, keep an open mind. So larry sat down and read through the entire case file, all the witness statements, alt all the interviews. For two years. He watched the february 2001 interview that police did with a very unhappy marty. Doesnt it strike you as tremendously suspicious that marty would call after lynsie disappears, talk to lynsies mother and give a phony name . If you didnt know the background of marty, then absolutely. When i talked to the mother on the phone, i just gave an identifier, okay. I mean, marty rossler, thats what i said. Which is a lie. Which is a lie. Watching that interview, larry chalked up martys dishonesty as a tempt to save his marriage. I dont want my wife to be brought into this thing. Larry also took a closer look at the idea that marty and lynsie were together at that Clothing Store after she went missing. I flat wasnt there on that day, okay. No one ever found any security video of that, and larrys larned that wellmeaning people often get things wrong. Marty had actually pasch tis pated in the early searches tor lynsie. Martys behavior matched up with those of an inch sent person. He is doing exactly what you would do if you were looking for lynsie. He was searching. So Larry Montgomery turned his attention to chris mcamis. Guilty or innocent. Chris was the last person known to be with lynsie. He told police he drove straight home after dropping lynsie off. And police found that photo of what looked like his truck heading north away from lynsies neighborhood, which took him past this atm camera. The video from the atm camera. Police at the time saw that as not ironclad proof that chris was telling the truth, but suggestive that what he said he actually did. Correct. But when larry compared photos of chriss truck with the photos from the bank, he saw something no one else had noticed. The paint on the back of the side view mirrors on chriss truck was white. What about the truck in the photo . Truck in the photo had a dark spot in that area, which means whatever mirrors that were there, they were black. So its not the same truck. Thats right. Its not. Suddenly, chriss alibi had a big hole in it. Larry moved on to chriss history with women. Two exgirlfriends talked with police about how chris would become unhinged by rejection or what he called disrespect. Larry heard about how chris had once crushed a pet crab with a hammer because he thought the crab had killed one of his fish. This is a guy with some significant anger issues. It certainly appears that way. She told me it was from a car accident. Larry listened to chriss interviews and caught him talking about lynsie in the past tense. Hand was pretty much stuck like this. Then he found something in the paperwork that proved that chris had lied to the police about his whereabouts on friday, february 17, the dalynsy didnt come home. Chris had told the cops he stayed close to home, but larry checked chriss credit card statement. There was one entry on february 17. And it turns out, it was Santa Clarita, which is north of where chris lived. Why would chris be in Santa Clarita . Thats what i want to know. He found information about chris dad, that he was in construction, and that in 2000 and 2001, he had a job site in Santa Clarita. You cant tell now, but back in 2001, this was a Major Construction site. Now chris had told police that he did not work for his dad that winter, that he was on unemployment. But larry saw some big cash advances going into his bank account. So he thought chris might have been working for his dad off the books, so larry came up hire to ask around. And they told you it was chris fathers Construction Company . Chris did some of the tractor work at that site. And chris worked there. Chris was one of the tractor drivers that the superintendent said was there every day. And did you think to yourself, thats where Lynsie Ekelund is . I thought, chances are excellent that if i killed lynsie and i was in chris mcamiss situation and i had use of a tractor out in the middle of nowhere, i might use that tractor to dig a hole to put her in. Now alt evidence whisperer had to do was prove it. An undercover operation. Were you armed . Yes. And you were wearing a wire . Yes. You should know the location of a decent bathroom. Ation, my gut says, take new benefiber healthy balance. This daily supplement helps maintain Digestive Health naturally while relieving occasional constipation and abdominal discomfort. New benefiber healthy balance termites, were on the move. 24 7. Roger. Hey rick, all good . Oh yeah, were good. Were good. Termites never stop trying to get in, we never stop working to keep them out. Terminix. Defenders of home. The Tech Industry is supposed in invention and progress. But only 11 of its executives are women, and the quit rate is twice as high for them. Heres a hack make sure theres bandwidth for everyone. The more you know. It was october of 2010, nine years after her daughter disappeared. Nancy ekelund was still waiting and doing what she could. She was now at 3,535 days without lynsie. She didnt know it, but a few miles away, Larry Montgomery was tightening the loose around chris mcamis. Larry had recruited a motorcycle cop from a nearby town to go undercover. They needed a Police Officer who looked like a College Student and didnt have the mannerisms of a Police Officer. Officer spring sandelli fit the bill. Jeans and a tee shirt, something that would appeal to a guy. Were you armed . Yes. And you were wearing a wire . Yes. Hi, are you chris . Yes. Hi, my names nicole anderson. Im from a magazine. She was posing as a student reporter compete with a phony press pass. She knocked on chriss door. He had talked in the past about the case. Did you use your real name . No, i used a fake name. Told him who i was. We just received word at the magazine that remains have been found that they believe are lynsie. Theyre doing dna testing right now. In the meantime, im supposed to contact friends, family, to get their initial reaction for the story. When i told him that the police think they found lynsies remains his demeanor changed. How . Quite drastically. The color in his face went white. The police had not found lynsies remains. Its a lie. Police do it all the time and its legal. Hed gotten some interest from cadaver dogs, but nothing more. Just down the street from chris house, detective bryce angel of placentia pd who had been assigned to work with larry was listening and keeping an eye on the action. So youre watching this while the interview takes place . Yeah, i was sitting ten houses down. Once she left the area, we were in business. What happens . Later that night he was seen coming out of his house and going into the garage. Lights go on, and were talking 3 00 in the morning. It was clearly a sign of somebody who couldnt sleep. Detectives were sure theyd rattled their suspect. The next day they trailed chris when he left his house. At some point it became apparent that he knew we were following him. They broke off surveillance. And brought chris in. Chris, have a seat. Larry had read all about chris mcamis, and hed looked at tape of every time chris had been in for an interview. Heres what the situation is. Today he and chris were going to meet for the first time. I have been investigating this case for about two years now as a cold case investigator. Larry had a plan to get chris to talk without asking for a lawyer. You probably want to know whats going on, whats happening, why youre sitting here. Larry planned to fill him in on the case in detail, figuring chris would want to know if the cops had the goods, and then maybe hed have something to do. I have to advise you of your rights. Then id like to explain to you everything. Larry read chris his rights. And then before chris could really respond, larry laid out his case. He said he knew chris had never dropped lynsie off that night. Because the atm photo that at first fooled investigators actually proved chris wasnt there. It wasnt your truck. But for years, it was thought of as your truck, but its not. As a matter of fact, your truck did not go by that night. It wasnt there. He told chris about the credit card statement and how he found someone who remembered chris working on the job site. All of a sudden, big red flags, you are working. You are up thayer when you said you were not. But he said you guys dont work on saturday. Lynsie disappeared on a saturday morning. None of your credit card usage of there is on any weekend. All of its on weekdays, except for the day lynsie disappeared. So youre not up there working that day. He told chris the lie about lynsie being found. We went recently, got dna from mother and dad and had that checked against the body. And its lynsie. Now weve got lynsie up in the area where you were, right at the time where you did not drop her off. And we have enough to prove the crime. And knowing about chris anger issues with previous girlfriends, larry summoned up a little empathy to draw chris in. I know you have that ability to get angry, but i dont know what she could have done. Chris didnt say much until a little body language revealed that larry was on the right track. Was it a premeditated thing . I didnt think it was. So what did she do . Larry finished talking. He was hoping chris would give it up. I think i need a lawyer to talk to you about this with me. Its up to you. The Supreme Court has made it pretty clear. If someone declares that three want an attorney, the interview is supposed to stop until one can be hired or provided. But in this case, larry was walking a line. Believing that asking for a lawyer isnt the same as wondering if you need one. Corrine loomis was watching from another room. Thats about as choice as you can get to the i want a lawyer line, without saying it. Were you holding your breath when he said that . Yes. This was a make or break interview. If he didnt confess, he was going to walk again. Guys, whats the matter . I heard there were fleas out here. And ttttticks and mosquitoooooooooooes listen up, scaredy cats. We all have k9 advantix ii to protect us. It kills and repels fleas, ticks and mosquitoes, too. This bleach indicator test reveals which disinfectant can leave harsh chemical residue on your food surfaces. What do you do with that . Like, whos going to eat that . 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With our commitment free guarantee, theres never been a better time to start listening to audible. The most inspiring minds, the most compelling stories, the best place to listen. To start your free 30day trial, text listen5 to 500500 today. I need to know what occurred so i do the right thing, because something happened to her. Larry montgomery spoke for 45 minutes. Hed given chris mcamis everything he had. Take a look at the credit card usage. The photo, the job site. How long did you know lindsey . This is not a very convenient time right now. The phony story about finding the body. And then the interview had suddenly stopped dead. I think i need a lawyer to talk to you about this with me. And because chris said i think i need a lawyer and not i need a lawyer larry thought whatever came next would be admissible in court. Detective angel whod been letting larry do the talking then spoke up. I knew that was a moment of truth, i had to interject something i have quickly. Chris, nobody likes to be labeled a monster. And in this case, thats the way its pointing. Only you have the other side of the story. Nobody is going to be able to speak for you. Thats why were here now. Thats it. Theres a reason everything happens. Im sure there were some circumstances that happened that night or that morning. He kind of sighed, and he laid out a story. All right, what happened was and suddenly, you realize this is it. Hes going to give it up. I was sitting next to the detective from the other agency, and i reached over and grabbed his arm and i said, he is going to confess. It was sad, and it was ugly. She, i was going to take her home. Okay. She was telling me, why dont i just sleep over at your place, because i dont want to upset my mom. Makes sense. As larry had suspected, chris never dropped off lynsie at that corner. I was trying to kiss her. And then she elbowed me in the chest. And then i went to my, i went to my kitchen in my apartment. And i drank a lot of vodka. And then i went back, and i tried to do the same thing. Okay. She pretended to be asleep. And i pulled her pants down and i was totally drunk. Okay. She got up, said oh, my god, what are you doing . Im calling the police. When i got up and walked to her, she tried to knock me out with my phone, with my open phone. Did she to my face, yeah, she, like this to my face. Okay. And being drunk, it enraged me. It set me on fire. And i grabbed her, throw her onto my bed, and i got her into a head lock. Okay. And she died. Then what did you do . Then i tried to figure out what i should do, because i couldnt believe how it just happened that way. Quickly, huh . It just, i couldnt believe it. I thought she was just going to pass out, and i ended up killing her. That was it. Lynsie had been killed before any win realized shed been missing. He said he drove over to the work site, dug a hole and when no one was around he buried her. Did it feel better to finally know . No, because i was really devastated. There was a relief, but i wasnt any happier because of it. After the confession, detectives left chris in the Interview Room with another detective to watch him. And chris simply could not stop talking. Unbelievable. Whats that . Its been so long, it finally feels better when you finally just say what you were supposed to say, you know . I know my life is ruined now. You know, if im going to get the Death Penalty for this . Youre going to have to ask them those questions. Then larry came back. Always meticulous. He wasnt done. He wanted that final detail. Where approximately was it that you dug the hole to put her . Where exactly chris had left lynsie. Right up in here . He explained to chris, that even though they found her remains, which wasnt true, the grave site had shifted over the years from flooding. Where the tractor was parked and where you dug the hole . With the detectives, chris returned to the site that had become lynsies final resting place. Right where this tree is, i pulled my truck over and parked it. This tree to our left here . Uhhuh, right where this tree is. It didnt used to exist there when we had construction. Okay. He wasnt sure of the exact spot. Its over in this vicinity. Way up there or way over here . All the way to that brush. That brush over there . It took more than a day of digging to find what was left of lynsie. First they found a shoe, then a jacket. And a bracelet. Thats how nancy knew theyd found her. The coroner confirmed it using dental records. Two years after he confessed, President Trump arriving in the u. K. There as you see air force one on the tarmac for a stat he a big day ahead for the president. Hes going to be heading to Buckingham Palace to meet the queen. Hes also going to be meeting with prince charles. You have the Prime Minister of the u. K. Resigning in four days or so. This is june 3rd, i believe shes going to be resigning on june 7th. And he said some pretty controversial stuff ahead ofan this visit. He has said he believes Boris Johnson should be the next Prime Minister. Nigel fir aush should be negotiating on behalf of the u. K. Both people not necessarily in support of theresa may, so sort of a not necessarily good thing ahead of the meeting. As the president often does, he courts controversy he shatters etiquette. Weighing in on the successor to Prime Minister theresa may. The kind of things most president s would avoid on a trip like idthis. Just the other day calling one of the newest royals, meghan markle, referred to her as nasty because of some comments she made about him in 2016. We do expect the president to disembark shortly and then he has a ceremonial welcome awaiting him this morning. Were going to have all day coverage on msnbc and