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Questions. Our nbc News Reporters are following all of the latest developments. Lets start with the extreme heat and Severe Weather happening all around the country. Marissa parra is in south florida, tracking tornadoes, floods, triple digit temperatures. Its hot where you are. Whats the latest . Reporter you know when you have the hot weather, the Severe Weather kicks in. In north carolina, the ef 3 tornado snapped power line, ruined homes. There were over a dozen hurt, and the pfizer plant took significant damage. And over in kentucky, that flash flooding, we know the governor of kentucky just tweeted out not long ago that there were several people who had to be rescued from the flash flooding, but so far, no one missing, no fatalities reported. The thing to remember here is the most deadly form of Severe Weather is actually extreme heat, and that is something we have seen from coast to coast across the country, particularly were not just talking about here in miami we hit the 40th day of a heat index in the triple digits. Were also talking about over in the southwest, el paso, las vegas, of course phoenix, arizona, where i just got back from, spent several days there. We have seen how this can get not just dangerous, not just uncomfortable, but deadly, people have severe burns, thirddegree burns from accidentally getting on the asphalt. It takes seconds for them to get severe burns. Some of them fell, and unfortunately, we understand one elderly woman couldnt get back up. The heat, of course, depending on who you are, depending on what population, whether you are part of the elderly population, we know that this can be deadly. It can be deadly fast if you dont have access to airconditioning. Were looking at the highs in phoenix, another record broken, consecutive Straight Days of temperatures over 110 degrees. Were not talking about a heat index. We are talking about just straight temps. We saw a high of 118 degrees. This is something that was putting a strain on hospitals and local rescuers and First Responders with, chris, no end, at least in your sight. Marissa parra, get into some airconditioning. Thank you so much for that report. The trump aide back in front of the d. C. Grand jury. William russell has testified several times before. Why is he back today . Do we know . Im told he will be testifying today. Our team at the courthouse has set their eyes on the lawyer representing him. For context, this lawyer is also walt nautas lawyer, and several trump loyalists. Will russell is somebody who served as the Trip Director inside of the white house up until Donald Trumps departure from it. You can see him in that photo with donald trump and Mark Meadows On January 6th under a tent at the ellipse. Just before donald trump took the stage and delivered his remarks. Midday then, the questions around will russell, what may he have been privy to. What conversations was he a part of . Will russell was not named in the january 6th select committees report. He was never interviewed by the house january 6th select committee, and so theres questions over whether new testimony from individuals who had not previously spoken with the congressional investigators had potentially come forward for the Special Counsel or whether there was evidence that had been acquired and obtained by the doj that led them to will russell. He has now testified multiple times. Of course the expectation is that this is nearing its conclusion of the investigation around donald trump. But will russell continues to work for the 2024 campaign. He is somebody who is still in Donald Trumps orbit. The question is to what extent is he working with the Special Counsel, and to what extent is he aware of conversations that could directly potentially implication donald trump and lead to charges . And Rudy Giuliani . And Rudy Giuliani, too. This is a web that extends across this country at this point, and we know that Rudy Giuliani now met at least two times with prosecutors from the Special Counsels office. Rudy giuliani, an aide to his has insisted he has not flipped on donald trump. Of course, Rudy Giuliani has been told that he is a target of the investigation in Fulton County by the District Attorney there. But Rudy Giuliani, to our understanding, has not received a target of Investigation Letter from the Special Counsels office, and so, again, donald trump at this time is the only one we are aware of to have received such a letter. Rudy giuliani, we should expect him to be a key player of any charges against the former president , chris. Vaughn hillyard, thank you for that. Lets go to texas where women are suing the state over its abortion ban. Nbcs Lindsey Reiser is following the case. You brought the incredibly emotional testimony of many of those women. What did we hear today . One of the women got sick on the stand, they had to have a recess. It was so traumatic, recounting what happened to they are. Today were hearing from a slew of doctors. Were going it put names on your screen. For example, dr. Aaron caughey, he testified if a womans baby has a condition like anesephly, the standard of care is abortion. And dr. Ali raja, how a doctor might consider the language of the sixweek abortion ban to be vague. Lets listen to what he said. The laws as theyre written, the medical exceptions, theyre confusing and that confusion, that lack of clarity is keeping physicians from being able to exercise their good faith clinical judgment in the treatment of patients. It also is pretty evident that the fact is that the consequences of those laws are severe. The state argued that that doctor is not in texas, has never performed an abortion, and overall, state is arguing that the lawsuit should be dismissed. They say the plaintiffs dont have standing. Theyre going to be calling a single witness today, a doctor who supports research and policies in her words that respect the dignity of every human life. The judge is expected to either grant the temporary injunction, blocking this abortion ban, chris, for women with risky pregnancy or dismiss it all together. Chris. Lindsey reiser, thank you for that. A painful summer of Flight Delays and cancellations for customers has not hurt the bottom line of two of the nations biggest airlines. Cnbcs Morgan Brennan is with us on cnbc or msnbc. Whats behind the numbers . A lot of people had a lot of misery at airports so far. The weather has not helped going back to the conversation you had earlier. Turbulent times for travelers, not so much for the airlines, at least not financially. The business is booming, case in point, as you mentioned, Record Numbers from american and united airlines, both hiking fullyear Financial Guidance on strong demand, that on the heels of delta doing the same, earlier this month, heres what american ceo and united Ceo Scott Kirby had to say in interviews on msnbc earlier told. We set out to be reliable and profitable, strengthen our balance sheet, and its all coming together. Our team is delivering day in and day out, out in the heat and humidity. We expect to grow margins next year. See our guidance this year, we think its a multiyear trajectory, and its about the structural changes coming out of covid. International travel is picking up. Helping american, united and delta. Air fares are beginning to fall as well. The carriers are bringing more capacity online. More planes, more flights, the one significant near term exception, though, newark, new jersey. This is one of the new york metro areas biggest airports. The company says its now trimming its august schedule to help avoid further Flight Cancellations and delays in case things like more bad weather crop up. Also, staffing, thats in focus, its been an issue with some of these delays and cancellations, weve seen united and as pilots union, recently reached a preliminary labor deal, that would give pilots raises by as much as 40 over four years. Thats causing american to renegotiate with its own pilots to quote, match those wage increases. Bottom line, chris, despite some o. Trouble some travelers have had, and despite the fact that consumers are tightening belts amid still high inflation, the key place people still seem to be Spending Money is on jet set asking travel. You get stuck at home for two, three, four years, you got to get out. Morgan brennan, thank you so much. Hundreds of passengers booked a Hawaiian Airlines flight, but were left waiting and waiting for paradise. They got stranded at new yorks jfk for nearly 33 hours after the flight crew reported an odor in the cabin. Frustrated passengers claimed the airline would not return their luggage or Exchange Tickets for other flights. According to one man on board, the airline instead offered a 12 food voucher for the inconvenience. Democrats say its time to bring ethics rules to the highest court in the land. With republicans standing in the way, whats next in this fight . Were back in 60 seconds. Were back in 60 seconds Senate Democrats for the first time in history advanced legislation today that would impose a code of ethics on the Supreme Court, following a series of revelations about justices accepting lavish gifts, vacations, travel on private jets. Republicans largely want the status quo which is to let the Supreme Court supervise itself. The bottom line is this is a bill not designed to make the courts stronger, more ethical. Its a bill to destroy a conservative court. This bill, if enacted would bluntly insert politics into the Supreme Court and erode away at the checks and balances carefully crafted by our founders. This legislation is meant to the bills lead sponsor, senator Sheldon Whitehouse said this is just round one, telling politico, think of a boxing match, if you dont fight the first round, you cant win the match. I want to bring in ali vitali, msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin, former senior adviser, alencia johnson. Senate democrats scored a win, they had a razor thin margin, 1110, voting along party lines to advance the bill. Then what chance does it have . Reporter very minimal. You dont get to round two before going through round one. This is a win notched by Senate Democrats. We expected that was going to be the margin because thats the partisan break down. When you take this to the full floor of the senate, it would need 60 votes to pass and avoid a filibuster. Thats the magic number around here, not 51. It would require a bipartisan effort, and frankly, listen to the way republicans were talking about this, its clear theres not a ton of willingness on the part of senate republicans, and House Republicans have made clear they dont want to touch this issue. Nevertheless, heres what senator whitehouse was saying about why he thinks this bill was important, especially in this current landscape. Watch. We have to allow power to check power, allowing congress the power to check abuses in the Judicial Branch is a long established and proven fact. That the Supreme Court has for decades gone along with without complaint. Even when and perhaps particularly when it involved justices themselves. And look, its important to remember the things that led up to this because this has been a push on the ethics front for months now, especially from the Judiciary Committee because of the reports we have seen about people like justice alito, Justice Clarence thomas, receiving gifts from donors or vacations or private jet travel, and then not disclosing them, and those donors having business thats relevant to them in front of the nations highest court. That has of course prompted a little bit of a crisis in confidence here in washington, but also across the country, especially as we watched the Supreme Court weigh in on increasingly important issues such as abortion, just over the course of the last year, chris. Thank you so much, ali vitali. So lisa, i guess the question is why dont the Supreme Court have a code of ethics when all other federal judges have one, right . Its a good question. There are some who believe constitutionally, that that would be an incursion on the separation of branches. We have three coequal branches. The Supreme Court should not be subject to supervision by congress. Thats unsatisfying for a number of reasons. A Senior Member of the Judiciary Committee, john cornyn said to the new york times, hypothetically, what if the Supreme Court sent over a code of ethics to the senate, how do you think that would be received to the coequal branch of government. The Supreme Court gets its budget from congress, for example, a number of interactions between the court and congress that rely on Congress Making decisions about the court. This should be no exception. Particularly where as here, the Supreme Court has shown no appetite to govern itself and the bill that the senate Judiciary Committee reported out today, it gives the court 180 days, if passed to come up with that Code Of Conduct itself. The congress or the senate Judiciary Committee is saying, our preference is still that you do this yourself, not that we should have to do it for you. So alencia, Clarence Thomas and samuel alito were in the spotlight might be the wrong word but getting a lot of attention and criticism and gifts they accepted from what they said were wealthy friends. There was a report in the associated process about an aide to Justice Sotomayor to pressure Public Institutions who hosted the justice to buy her books. Does that mep democrats argument this is a bipartisan effort. Is it an example of why this is needed or can they mine their own story. Im glad you brought that up. I think democrats are actually welcoming this code of ethics to be for everyone, whether conservative or democratic. The reality is democrats are responding to the public outcry when it comes to faith in the Supreme Court. The numbers show us that people have lost faith in the Supreme Court, and most recently, there was a yougov poll that came out this week with an organization, demand justice that focuses on Supreme Court reform, and they said that 60 of americans would not support a candidate for office who doesnt support Supreme Court ethics, right . Ive asked a lot of folks in the fbi and doj about this. I want to ask you both, thousand, how concerned are you when you see those kinds of numbers, as people who work in the business, and people whose very integrity is at stake here. When you see those that the integrity, the support for the Supreme Court is being questioned, what does that mean . You know, i see it as an opportunity, i guess im ever the campaigner, an opportunity to educate the American People on their power to say, hey, we done have faith in how these institutions have been won now. We dont have faith in the ethics, we have the opportunity at the ballot box to make our voice heard. I have been on the road with Coalition Groups talking to voters about that, and theyre realizing the power is with the people. In order for us to right the wrongs, people have to get the right folks in office. Thats where i have optimism and hope while we have this continued culture conversation dismantling the legitimacy of so many institutions. Lindsay comes at it from a political perspective. You come at it from somebody who works within the system. Whats it mean for you . Its deeply concerning for me, chris, and one of the things that concerns me about it is the lack of faith in the system is so pervasive that when we have problems that arent problems, the lack of guardrails around the court prevent the public from seeing that. There was recently reporting about a Christmas Party that Justice Thomas hosted for his clerks and venmo payments from a number of prominent lawyers in d. C. As a former federal law clerk, i can tell you, that was inknock innocuous. Theres all of this other suspicious activity and no guardrails around either disclosure, recusal or what gifts you can or cannot accept. That makes the public distrustful not only with the court but similar Polling Results with the Department Of Justice and fbi as well. We have 30 seconds left, is there a very pointed way na that democrats can campaign on this or message on this, in ways that rnlt necessarily about abortion and Student Loans and gay rights. Absolutely. Its the conversation of our institutions that are supposed to uphold the democracy, and its the conversation about we all have to play by the same rules. Clearly theyre not playing by the same rules, and the people that are governing should do that. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And katy tur will be interviewing Sheldon Whitehouse who led the charge for the code of ethics. The Supreme Courts Affirmative Action Decision is having a major implications on a number of prestigious colleges. 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Activists say this is the proof of the need to outallow helicopters to capture animals on federal land. The Supreme Courts decision to abolish seeking new ways to achieve adverse student body. One focus, Legacy Admissions. In an oped earlier this month, congresswoman barbara lee of california wrote, the Supreme Court did not strike down Affirmative Action for everyone. It was just taken away for everyone thats not wealthy or white. For many wealthy white students, it still exists in the form of Legacy Admissions. Wesleyan university in connecticut is the latest to formally end that practice, which its president says was a sign of unfairness to the outside world. Joining us now, Wesleyan University president , michael roth, we appreciate you being here. So why this, and why now . Well, in the wake of the Supreme Court decision, which said that we cannot use the groups with which students affiliate racially in our admissions process, it seemed egregiously wrong to help someones admissions chances because they were related to someone who went to wesleyan in the past. And so although at wesleyan, this legacy bump has been really small over the last decade or so, as ive been president , it just took the focus away from our efforts to recruit a diverse student body. We are going to continue to do that. Were afraid that many black and brown students wont apply to schools like wesleyan because of the end of Affirmative Action. We want to continue to recruit people from all parts of the country, from all socioeconomic backgrounds with various lived experiences to create a diverse student body and abide by the law. Having Legacy Admissions on the books made that effort seem hypocritical, and so we removed that hypocrisy this week by saying we would no longer privilege people who had a wesleyan parent. To what extent can doing that actually help to assure a diverse student body given the ruling by the Supreme Court . I think theres a lot we can do to recruit a diverse student body. The issue of Legacy Preferences is a small one given all the inequities in Higher Education and a k through 12 education. What we should be focused on is helping to prepare students to be as successful as possible in school, and to find the right school when theyre ready to go to a college or university. And we can recruit actively from parts of the country where there is a high concentration of black and brown students, where theres high concentrations of other ethnic groups. For us at wesleyan, whats really important is we create a diverse student body. People from all over the world, different parts of the country and different points of view. We have to recruit students of faith, conservative students, because as a highly selective new england liberal arts school, sometimes people think, we know what kind of folks you want in the student body. We want a student body thats surprising, unexpected possibilities for making connections. It sounds like you want to acknowledge there are a lot of folks out there who frankly think the system has been rigged for a long time, whether it was several years ago when we found out that folks were paying, you know, wealthy people with connections were paying to see their their kids got into school, and all the things that are in between, including Legacy Admissions. You have a high hill to climb to convince people were doing this in a fair way . Absolutely. Your Previous Story about the declining trust in the Supreme Court because of the ethics issues we have that all over the place in Higher Education. The decline in trust in colleges and universities is really strong. And i think its so important for colleges and universities to do the right thing in a very public way so as to restore some of the confidence in our institutions. Our students, when they graduate, are full of admiration and gratitude for the schools they went to. They think they have been transformed by their education. The Greater Public is very suspicious and i think what we have to do more to get the message out to the public that we have fair admissions processes, and that we can also open our gates, at least virtually so people can take advantage of the Educational Resources in online classes and hybrid classes and other programs. Michael roth, a conversation that will surely be ongoing. We appreciate you taking the time to talk to us today. 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Also with me, msnbc contributor and author of the old goats news letter and author of the book, his very best, jimmy carter, a life. So ryan, what happened at this hearing, obviously there was some well, more than one or two politically charged moments. Yeah, you could say that, chris, i think it certainly lived up to the potential of being a circus. Much of what weve seen on capitol hill, in this version of congress, listen, the thing about robert f. Kennedy jr. Is that part of the reason he was called to testify before this committee on the topic of censorship is because of so many of the outrageous things that he has said and the attempts by some social Media Companies to try and quell a bit of the information that he pedals online. It led, as you rightly point out, chris, to a number of heated moments as democrats tried to get him to explain some of those controversial stances. Heres one of the moments with congresswoman Debbie Wasserman schultz. You do see that, yes or no . Youre misstating. No, i quoted what you said earlier, and it is directly what you said, so just asking yes or no. I was describing an nihfunded study. I was describing an nihfunded study. Reclaiming my time. You did not reference reclaiming my time. Published in usc medical. The time is mine, im reclaiming it please ask the witness to stop talking. You asked me a question. Allow me to answer the question. You are slandering me incorrectly. Did you get anything out of that . Because thats about how this hearing went for the better part of the day. Just a lot of back and forth, a lot of the Democratic Congress people in particular trying to press rfc jr. s stance, him trying to explain them away, and republicans did try to hone in on the idea of censorship, the power of social Media Companies when it comes to pedaling this kind of information, and rfk jr. s argument was you should be able to say whatever you want on any kind of platform, which is not exactly what the First Amendment says, chris, but that is part of the core of this conversation here in washington. So, jonathan, you have been covering the kennedys for a very very very, as i have, long time. Fair enough. And i think its fair to say a headline in a column you wrote about this reflects what the democrats feel about it. The headline was pedigreed menace, explain. Right. So if robert f. Kennedy was named robert f. Simpson, you know, he would be just written off as a crank, crack pot, conspiracy theorist, all of which he is. Because hes also a kennedy, he gets a platform. Its sort of rich for him to be claiming that hes been deplatformed, when you can hear him all over the place because of this kennedy platform that he has. And by the way, you know, just in terms of the First Amendment, which a lot of the republicans were talking about today. If you have a social Media Company you have a First Amendment right to decide whos on your platform and who isnt. You know, theres no First Amendment right to be on anybodys platform. Hes complained about the way he has been treated. He has a First Amendment right to go out and get on a soap box and say whatever he wants. He doesnt have a right to be on any social Media Private companys product. How do you explain the 14 he has with democrats . Is that just name recognition, and they dont understand what he stands for . What do you make of that . So ive known this guy since 1975, and he can be a charming character, but hes also a dangerous person. After i wrote my piece i heard from two of his First Cousins saying you werent tough enough on bobby. Why do they think that . Because in some ways, the big thing that he did has been missed in most of the coverage. So the reason that a Million People died of covid is that a very large percentage of them were not vaccinated. There are very few deaths among vaccinated people. You can get covid if youve been vaccinated but youre not going to die of covid when you get vaccinated. When bob by kennedy was saying theres not enough research on this vaccine, dont get it, and hes trying to back pedal and saying im not an antivaxxer, and worst of all on the covid vaccine. Chris, that Cost Thousands and thousands of people their lives. This man arguably has some blood on his hands. He also has support among i think 48 of republicans. So more to come on this. Good to see you my old friend. Appreciate it. A federal judge has loosened Travel Restrictions for embattled u. S. 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Courthouse where a grand jury is Hearing Testimony from an aide to former President Trump. I want to bring in nbc justice reporter ryan reilly, what can you tell us . Reporter yeah, so i want to walk through this kind of as simply as i can because its a little bit complicated. But Stanley Woodward is an attorney representing two clients who are in court today. Both of them former President Trump aides, one of them Federico Klein was a state Department Official who physically stormed the capitol himself on january 6th and was inside that tunnel that day. The other is this individual William Russell, who is testifying before the grand jury. We havent seen him go. We believe he went in through the garage, but basically, Stanley Woodward had to come to the verdict in this case. It was a bench trial that happened the last week, and the verdict was coming down from a trumpappointed judge, judge mcfadden here at 2 00 p. M. That had been scheduled on friday last week. They had set it for this specific time. Stanley woodward knew he had a client expected to come in in the morning, to make sure that wouldnt interfere with everything. He ended up being a half hour late for this verdict, and the reason he said in court today while explaining why he was late for this verdict was because of the fact that his client in the grand jury case was being asked questions that specifically had to do with Executive Privilege. This was a trump aide who was with Donald Trump On January 6th. And the invocation of Executive Privilege has been something that has gone back and forth throughout this entire investigation. So, you know, during this time when he was supposed to be in the courthouse for the verdict, we saw him outside of the grand jury room on the phone, and then had to go to court, and the judge sort of waived the typical rule about Grand Jury Proceedings In Open Court to allow Sammy Woodward to explain why exactly he was late in this case, and thats when he said this all has to do with questions of Executive Privilege. In some, its an indication that were getting to a critical moment in this investigation, about whether or not the grand jury is going to return another indictment against donald trump specifically with regards to january 6th, and the efforts to obstruct the proceeding that day as well as to present a slate of fake electors and other ways of stopping the peaceful transfer of power from taking place, chris. For the idea that he actually said Executive Privilege, how rare is that in public, in a courtroom, nonetheless, to get a report on what might have been happening inside a grand jury, one, by the way, that we believe is the grand jury that is looking into potential charges against donald trump whos been told hes a target. Its very, yeah, it was very rare, and in fact, you know, actually as we asked Stanley Woodward was speed walking to the courtroom as he was running late. The only remark he sort of made to myself and another reporter was that we should ask him about this down the line, maybe a couple of beers. This is going to be a day for the history books, i think is what he was sort of the indicating there. Ryan reilly with that Breaking News, thank you so much for that. Fallout today from a tense hearing on capitol hill over the tax Crimes Investigation into hunter biden. Two irs whistleblowers testified yesterday about allegations of meddling in the justice departments investigation into the president s son. Nbc news capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles has more. Reporter for more than six hours, two irs investigators who say they have no political motivations claim their superiors and federal prosecutors stood in the way of an investigation into the president s son hunter biden. At every stage, decisions were made that benefitted the subject of this investigation. Reporter Joseph Ziegler who is coming forward publicly for the first time and gary shapley testified under oath that the evidence was damming and worthy of federal charges. It appears to me based on what i experienced that the u. S. Attorney in delaware in our investigation was ham strung, limited and marginalized by doj officials as well as other u. S. Attorneys. Reporter with republicans seizing on the allegations. You know whose story hasnt changed . These two guys. Reporter democrats did not question the credibility of the witnesses claims. I think theyre honest witnesses, Public Servants, i dont question their integrity. But argued they are investigators and prosecutors are the ones who get to make the call on indictments. Its standard. Investigators and prosecutors disagree all the time, and so the prosecutors are the ones who make the decision. Reporter Shapley And Ziegler testified that david weiss, a trump appointee argued he did not have authority in a case. Attorney general Merrick Garland backed up. He was given complete authority to make all decisions on his own. Reporter President Biden has repeatedly denied any connection to his sons Business Dealings and specifically rejected he was with his son when hunter sent a Whatsapp Message to a business associate, a message the whistleblowers shared as evidence. I wasnt. Were you . No. That was ryan nobles reporting. I want to bring in former aide to the George Bush White house and state department, elise jordan. Is this legitimate oversight or political theater . Chris, there are legitimate issues with hunter biden and his taxes but yesterdays hearing did little to necessarily move the ball forward for the republicans case. You did have two whistleblowers, very credible. It is ironic how irs agents are now being embraced by republicans when its politically convenient, and theyre alleging that this was not prosecuted to the full extent that it should have been. So youre really having just another rehash of the old arguments, the problems, the crimes of the unpaid taxes that the public already knows about and to some extent has moved beyond. To some extent, this is republicans who when they ran for office said exactly this was what they were going to do. They said they were going to, you know, clean up things. They have invoked the name of hunter biden many times. Does it get him anywhere beyond their base. Does It Enlighten Anything beyond the base . I think, chris, we need to have more irs agents. I support the biden administrations must have to put in 80,000 more irs agents so we are collecting taxes from the top tax brackets. Its insane that a secretary is far more likely to be audited, than someone, maybe millions of dollars, who has the ability to fight back with expensive lawyers. If its shedding light on that, great, i dont think showing inappropriate sexual pictures in a congressional pictures in a hearing is moving it forward at all, which is Marjorie Taylor greene did yesterday, which was disgraceful. I wonder what you thought about that. She did show sexually explicit images from Hunter Bidens laptop, those kinds of tactics do they send a broader message about what congress doing . Its just trashy, and it shows how the Republican Party can just be so trashy these days, from whether its donald trump and all of what he says and the horrible things hell say and the things hell do to someone like, you know, Marjorie Taylor greene, showing us that kind of content, i just cannot imagine a Public Servant flashing images like that, when, you know, children could be watching the tv. And it was really just completely unnecessary, and it was an opportunity for republicans to educate the public, perhaps you could say, on tax evasion, but that wasnt really what was accomplished. Elise jordan, i was thinking how many kids are watching Something Like that, and yet, then i had a memory that my dad used to sit me down and watch Cleveland City council meetings. Thats a whole other story. Holding Government Officials accountable. Elise jordan, always great to talk to you my friend. Thank you. Thats going to do it for us this hour. 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Former trump aide William Russell is in a d. C. Courtroom testifying before jack smiths grand jury. Russell is a curious case. We know he was with Donald Trump On January 6th for at least a little bit of time. Here he is with the former president in the tent at the ellipse where donald trump told the crowd to march on the capitol. What was said in the tent before and after the speech was a big part of the house january 6th investigation. But russell was never interviewed by the january 6th committee

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