Good day. Im Andrea Mitchell in washington. President trump is in belgium preparing for a critical phase of his first foreign trip making a direct pitch to nato allies to spend more and hoping that they forget about his Campaign Rhetoric about nato being obsolete. The buzz here at home all about the first familys first meeting with pope francis with plenty of memorable moments. Joining me new, kelly o now, ke and nick schmidt. Kelly, first to you in brussels. This nato meeting were told that the nato leaders have been told to keep their speeches short because President Trump might not be as interested in all the details that usually take place at a nato meeting in brusse brussels. Weve seen those report, weve heard those comments. There is perhaps both an adaptive quality to that and maybe even a condescending quality to it. You have had so much experience with this, the density of the complex issues that are sometimes discussed at a nato meeting and this is convened in part because we have a new american president who of course plays a very Important Role in the organization of 28 countries and they are also unveiling a brand new nato headquarters hoohere in belgium. And there is a trail of unfortunate sound bites in the wake of President Trump of course. He has a ten ddency to leave the behind and start a new oig. And we get that from secretary tillerson who spoke to reporters previewing what he hopes to see and that includes try togs preshl some of the nations that dont contribute the full amount of their Gross Domestic Product to defense as agreed to. Only 5 do and the u. S. Is at 4 . So candidate trump will probably be similar to President Trump who will talk about that, as well. And were also getting the idea of even from his recent meeting just in the last hour or so with belgian officials, the Prime Minister here, a focus on what happened in manchester being an urgency for these nations to continue to talk about how to confront isis and terrorism and lone wolves and how that has happened especially here in europe where there has been so much tragedy. Kelly, thank you for that. And nick, you spent years not only advancing papal visits, but traveling with the president s. This trip so far has pretty much gone well when its scripted. The things that you saw today, imtages from the vatican, how did that strike you . It goes without saying any visit by a world leader to the vatican is an incredibly special and moving moment. And i think that was the case with the trump family today and its also symbolic. The pope is chief of state, but he is also a man who is larger than that. He represents over 1. 2 billion catholics across the world. And so i think those catholics and miles an hour american cith to go see what it would look like. They had a meeting that was 20 minutes long. Is that typical . President obamas last meeting with pope francis was i think closer to 45 minutes. And so obviously there were issues that they had to talk about that were brought up by both sides during the campaign. So we dont know what they talked about exactly. But they hashed it out no doubt. And the pope of course had been critical of the president over the wall, over his immigration policy. Perhaps they didnt discuss that. But the gifts to the president , interesting that he gave him among other things a copy of his encyclical on Climate Change with a personal encryption. Is th inscription. Is that a point references as the president decides whether to withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord . I would suspect that there was a lot of research that went into these gifts on both sides. With President Trumps gift, yon which he referenced mar about contin Martin Luther king and the writings of king. Very sensitive and appropriate gift. Very sensitive. Im not certain it was necessarily a surprise. Youve traveled alongside pope francis when he was here. Would he choose to ignore their disagreements on this first most important visit with the american president . I think again they talked about these things during their meeting, but ultimately the idea behind this is First Impressions are lasting impressions. And so this was their chance to really sit down, have the start of a relationship that they can look back to and move forward with to work through difficult issues as we go forward. So im not certain exactly, but i think this is a good first meeting without a lot of hicc hiccups. Thank you so much nick schmidt. Really appreciate you being here. New jersey democratic senator cory booker sits on the Foreign Relations committee and joins me now. So the scorecard on this trip so far, the big summit , a hard lie antisemitism speech which is understandable, its the position of this administration, but no mention of the human rights issues. Deliberate reference to were not going to electric which you were you, we wont talk to you about human rights. And then what happened in israel. Do you want to take it from there . Yeah. Look, to me its a glaring hole in this trip. And its anguishing not just to me, but you see republican senators speaking out about the importance of us being a nation that stands for values, not just sort of our self interests, but larger values. To go to saudi arabia and not call out critical human rights issues, not to even talk about the dangerous exportation that they are involved in affecting the safety and security ranging from bosnia all the way to nations in asia, this is very problematic. And then to announce an arms deal, something that the Obama Administration rejected pulling out of certain sales where the Obama Administration didnt do that because of their philosophy, they did that because of military leaders who saw in a joint targeting center that they had no they were not exhibiting the values we have about targeting civilians. For him to turn around and announce an over 100 billion arms sale flies in the face of what we as a nation stand for. And i think you and i discussed this, we abothe words of john m who was a prisoner of war and talking about what Ronald Reagans values that he put fort on an Enter National scale, what that meant to oppressed peoples around the globe. This is what our nation stands for and donald trump is trying to go change that, alter to say really our nation just stands for what is in our best interests, a philosophy that is a departure from democratic republican president s of the past. And i also wanted to ask you about John Brennans testimony and your thoughts about his sdwripgs of what his concerns were regarding russia and the need for an fbi investigation into possible connections because he saw unusual contacts between the Trump Campaign associates shall we say, u. S. Persons, and russian officials. Were at a point in American History where were seeing a lot of dots that seem to be directing us towards a real problem and potential collusion. We have a everything from an fbi criminal investigation going on, a new special prosecutor, to now a reenergized bipartisan investigation in both the house and senate. Because there still continues to seem to be smoke that might result in an actual fire. In other words, real collusion going on between us and the soviet union. And im sorry, but this circles back to just what do we stand for, what are our values. Whether its our collective defense of our Democratic Institutions like our election from the russians to even this president and his conversations. Now that were seeing transcripts come out from his conversations with erdogan in you are itky, a k turkey, and how he almost seems to praise them for violating international norms. This this is part of a problematic trend in a presidency that greatly concerns me about that. Pretty mlet me pick up on th. The white house has revealed that this is a legitimate transcript of the phone conversation with duterte where he praises him for doing an unbelievable job on the drug problem when they deal with it by shooting suspects in the streets, and also violates pentagon policy by revealing that the u. S. Has two nuke nuclear sub made about reasons off the coast. And tsz this is not just a one off. Were sighi seeing a pattern. So praising authoritarian antidemocratic actions, actions that violate human rights by praising people dictators or strong authoritarian leaders that where doing these kind of things. And so as a guy who has been fighting for years now against a drug war gone wrong here in this nation, to see him praising a more dramatic extreme of that in a different country, greatly worries me both about the Enter National context as well as the american context. But then for this president not to understand whether its conversations with the russians in the oval office, russian leaders in the oval office or this conversation where he is revealing information that should be by any leader, including myself, should have the common sense knowledge that this is not something that should be shared, he goes to israel at the time that he exposed potentially Israeli Intelligence and endangered our strong cooperation between these countries. This is becoming a pattern of recklessness and really potentially as we saw with china how dangerous it is, these folks who are doing intelligence gathering, how it cost american lives. This is a recklessness that is you were acceptable and again wore are any of criticism and im glad to hear a lot of my Republican CoRepublican Colleagues resoundingly criticizing this brd for the way he is conducting Foreign Policy and potentially putting americans at risk. Senator cory booker, thanks for joining us. And coming up, senator Bernie Sanders joining me with his reaction to the president s Budget Proposal. Can you love wearing powerful sunscreen . Yes neutrogena® ultra sheer. Unbeatable protection helps prevent early skin aging and skin cancer with a clean feel. The best for your skin. Ultra sheer®. Neutrogena®. Whoa,i just had to push one button to join. Its like im in the office with you, even though im here. Its almost like the Virtual Reality of business communications. No, its reality. 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We dont want to measure our commitment to the country by the amount of money that we spend, but instead on the number of people that we help get off of these programs and get back in charge of their own lives. Budget director Mick Mulvaney trying to sell the president s first major Budget Proposal to lawmakers on chiapitol hill tod. Joining me now, Bernie Sanders. Senator, welcome. Good to be with you. Great to see you. Im very interested in your take on the Budget Proposals. Andrea, that budget that trump has presented is a grow on de grotesquely immoral budget. What it says is that if you are the richest family, you will get over a on grotesquely immoral budget. What it says is that if you are the richest family, you will get over a 50 billion tax break you through the repeal of the estate tax. But if you are a low income pregnant woman, you will lose nutrition programs for yourself and your baby, kids will be thrown off of head start. Millions of kids will lose their Health Insurance. Senior zit citizens will lose t meals on wheels brahm program. Pell grants will be cut. Environmental programs will be decimated. So you are looking a the a massive transfer of wealth from working families, from seniors, from children into the hands of the richest billionaires. It is an outrageous budget and a budget that should not see the light of day in the u. S. Senate. The other point that is being made, Larry Summers wrote an oped about this, is that there is a 2 trillion double accounting, double bookkeeping here. Because they are counting first of all on 3 growth over the number of years which is very optimistic. They are counting on a 2 trillion saving from higher growth to make it meet its mark to be revenue neutral and they are also counting on the 2 trillion to finance the tax cut that they plan to 3r0propose. So they are counting it twice. Look, this whole budget like much of trumps proclamations is pretty frauds leapfraudulent. They are doing hocuspocus accounting. They are saying if we give hundreds of billions of dollars of tax breaks to the wealthiest people, somehow it will automatically translate into economic grooet and increased tax revenue for the federal government. Unfortunately, that is a theory that has never worked. What this is all about and its the same thing as Trumps Health care proposal, his Health Care Proposal as you know threw 24 Million People of f of Health Insurance but provided tax breaks for the top 2 . His budget has massive cuts to programs that working families need but cuts to the people on on top. That is what all of this is about. Its to make the we would aniest people richer at the expense of working families. I know that the president talked about america first, but if you look at the state department budget, 32 reduction overall. 31 in humanitarian assistance, 25 reduction in global health. What are the real costs hooer . Because mike mullen is a military man who talks about the real costs of cutting global health, pet frograms for sub san african at a time when people talk about counterterrorism programs that we will see the results in major ways in terms of military needs. Your point is very well taken. And the issue here is if we are serious about trying to prevent young people around the world from becoming terrorists, from becoming antiamerican, they have got to know poor people all over the world have got to know what used to be the case is that the United States of america stands with them, that well do everything we can to eradicate illnesses that for a few cents a day can keep children from dying. That we will work to help educate the poor people of this world, that we will provide housing, well provide nutrition. That is what america used to stand for. We were a beacon of help for poor people. But to suggest that the future is simply to put more money into the military and cut back on the kinds of support and state Department Programs that uplifted poor people around the world, that made them believe that america was on their side, i think that that is very short sighted and counterproductive. What is your reaction to John Brennans testimony about his suspicions on contacts between persons, us persons connected to the Trump Campaign, and russian officials and his desire to follow it up. Do you think that the investigation will ever get to the bottom of this . I certainly think that it must get to the bottom of this. The issue here is very simple. We know that the russians played a significant role in the 2016 president ial election working to see that trump was laepgt elect. That in itself must be addressed. We cannot have the russian government trying to destroy democracy in the United States, in europe and around the world. That is one issue. But the second issue is did the Trump Campaign, people in the Trump Campaign itself, company lewd with the russians. Was this a joint effort. We dont know the answer to that today. But this is an issue clearly that mueller has been charged to discover. We have the intel against committee in the house and Senate Working on this. It must be done in a bipartisan way. And i think people are demanding that we get to the truth. And i want to ask you about the Paris Climate Accord. One of the gifts today from are pope francis to the president was a copy of his encyclical on Climate Change. And you and i have talked about the importance of pope francis moral authority around the world. What are you hoping the president will take away from that different and from that meeting . Andrea, trumps view on Climate Change in which he thinks it is a hoax is just an International Embarrassment and extraordinarily dangerous for the future of our country and the future of the world. All over the world, governments understand, private corporations understand, that Climate Change is real, it is caused by human activity, it is already doing devastating harm. And as you point out, the popes encyclical in a very strong way made that point. And the fact that we have a President Trump today who is rejecting science, who is trying to make it harder for us to transform our Energy System away from positivepositives for sild into sustainable energy, it is an international disgrace. You listen to the scientists, you dont reject science in order to see the fossil fuel entry make short term profitable gains. So i would hope very much that trump actually reads that encyclical and maybe changes his view on this terribly important issue. And finally, we saw that you were campaigning in montana for the ryan zinke seat. Do you think there is a chance that the democrats could pick up that seat . Rob quist went into that campaign as a real, real underdog. Nobody thought he had a shot. I think today many of my Republican Colleagues are getting very nervous because he has run a very, very strong grass roots campaign. He has focused on trumps disastrous Health Care Proposal which among other things would throw 70,000 people in montana off of health care while giving tax breaks to the very wealthiest people in this country. So quist has country run a good campaign. I hope that he wins and that we can turn that state around. Ry r campaign. I hope that he wins and that we can turn that state around. Senator bhernie sanders, thanks so much. Coming up, theresa may raising the threat level to critical as they continue to hunt for more suspects. A live report from england next. With ive been blind since birth. 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Today police said it is very clear they are investigating a network linked to the suicide bomber. 22yearold salman abedi is the man believed to be responsible for killing 22 people including children. Injuring 59 others at the Ariana Grande concert on monday. After the bombing Prime Minister theresa may has raised the countrys threat level from severe to critical. This has mourners continue to pay tribute to the victims. Kelly cobiella is outside the arena. Kelly, what kind of network are they looking at, al qaeda or isis . Is it a hybrid . What do we know . Reporter well, weve heard possibly both and weve heard that from a couple of different sources. Now, our sources are telling us that this the suspected bomber salman abedi traveled to libya within the past 12 months and that he had connections to al qaeda. Today frances interior minister added to that saying that he had also traveled to syria, were not clear on the time frame there, and that he had connections very clear connections in the words of the interior minister to isis. And so this raises the question which or how many groups was he actually in contact with. In addition to that, beef just heard beef just heard in the past few minutes that his younger brother has been taken into cuss did. Ju beef just heard in the past few minutes that his younger brother has been taken into cuss did. Abedi was born here, but he has traveled back to lick i cantby past. A number of raids happening throughout the city over the past 24 hours or so. Four people this custody as you mentioned, one believed to be his older brother. Its not clear if he was brought in simply to be questioned about his brothers activities or if he is issue some how connected. And three other suspects not clear once again on the connection. Authorities are being pretty tight lipped about that. Thank you so much. And joining me now is Richard Clark former chief counterterrorism adviser to president bill clinton. He served for 30 years in the u. S. Government and hes author of the new book warnings, a great title. Its great to see you. Great to be with you. First lets talk about this evolving investigation. Now the brother arrested in tripoli. If you were in the white house in the chair and talking to the counterterrorism center, talking to your allies in the uk, what would you want to learn to try to identify what kind of network now that they think this was not just a lone wolf . Id like to know is he isis or is he al qaeda. What did he do and who did he meet with when he was in libya and in syria. And who are his friends and soer associates in the united kingdom. Is this it part of a plot where he was directed to do these things . Who made the bomb if he didnt or who assisted him in making the bomb . It looks to me like this is an isis activated cell as weve seen in the past in europe. Again, though, he is not a refugee and this is important for people to remember. He was born in the united kingdom. And so this whole notion of refugees coming in and staging attacks, this event does not support that. Indeed not. And in your book you talk about warnings, there have been so many instances, so many on warnings overlooked. Were there any warnings that you could see here to this kind of event . Anyway that intelligence could have forecast this . Well, i think intelligence did forecast it. The British Intelligence and their Domestic Security Services knew plots were afoot. They have already stopped several attacks. So i think they knew it was coming. Its the same problem i had before 9 11. I knew an attack was coming, i didnt know precisely when or precisely where or how. But i knew enough from intelligence to know then that an attack was coming. I feel very much sympathy because im sure they felt the same thing. Interesting that the brits were in touch with the americans instantaneously, both to find out if we had picked up any intercepts that might help them and we of course wanting to know if they had anything that would help us. So no interruption at all in the communication despite all the concerns about what the president said to the russians in the oval office. At the professional level, there is such great cooperation between nsa on our side, gchq on their side, between the fbi and their security service. The brits are the best professionals in the world at this after perhaps the United States. And we are glued at the hip every day, not just days where attacks occur. There is new reporting also from the Washington Post that has been confirmed that in this transcript, extraordinary transcript of the president s phone call with the leader in the philippines duterte among other things, he talked about two nuclear subs being positioned off the coast of north korea. Inappropriately according to our pentagon soirgsed soururces. You never talk about where submarines are. There is a map every more than where the ships were, but never where the subs were because that is an incredibly tight secret. Antisubmarine warfare sources would love to know where to look for them so they can listen and find out if there is anyway of tracking them. If we assume that the president doesnt know the distinction there, not to say that and doesnt know what not to say to the russian, does he need to be better advised and prepped for these calls . Im not sure its possible. He seems to say whatever comes in this to his head. Im sure he is well advised and well prepped. He has a Great National security adviser. Good people on the staff. But that doesnt seem to be able to stop him from saying whatever comes into his head. Richard clark, you can certainly empathize with some of your successors. Author of the new book, warnings. Thank you so much. And coming up, scorecard. Could the congressional budget reports slated to be released today upset the republican efforts to repeal obamacare . That is next. We, the device loving people want more than just unlimited data. We want unlimited entertainment. So we can stream unlimited action. Watch unlimited robots. Watch unlimited romance. If you are into that. But we also want more like. Unlimited hbo. Can i stop dying now mark . No cant do mi amigo. Its unlimited. Besides you are really good at it james. Dont settle for any unlimited data plan. Only the at t unlimited plus plan comes with hbo included at no extra charge. Tech when your windshield trust safelite autoglass. 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Its changing but not clear that it will i didnt its ocleae its own bill. While the plan did not make it affordable for people was devastating. And as you watch House Republicans going home to the town Hall Meetings and having constituents sdrooem scre s scr was a big factor. The fact that the republicans voted this bill without a cbo score, one sixth of the economy affecting folks, tells you howe serious they are about policy. I think that this score will actually be very important in terms of showing the senate that if they really want to do health care correctly, they need to throw the house bill out and start over. And i think the senate is going to look at the bill fresh. A lot of what they are trying to do is to foster some bipartisan consensus. If they can get there, that would be great. The question then becomes how does it b get it get back to th house. Estimates are always estimates. If you look at where the cbo thought wed be on coverage today, they thought that twice as many people would be covered through the Affordable Care act than has actually been covered. You could make the argument there are all sorts of reasons why that is. But the republican argument needs to be they make estimates, those estimates arent per if he could, but they do need to be more competitive on coverage. I agree with that point. And can i just Say Something which is if they are trying to do a bipartisan approach, why are they having secret meetings without committee hearing, without any transparency and bought including democrats in it . I think that the problem that they have with their Health Care Plan be here is that they are doing it behind closed doors this is what happened in the houses and its how you end up with a bill that is so devastating politically to members. And what about the fact there are no women on the committee that the senate proposed, they didnt reach out to Susan Collins or lisa murkowski. They have republican women senators who could work on this. They have republican women senators who are moderates who know how to reach across the aisle and try to work on Bipartisan Solutions together. I think one of the reasons they dont have the women in the room is because this bill is so devastating to Womens Health and reproductive rights. And there are women in the Republican Senate who care about Womens Health and who presumably would have some problems with that. Are republicans gets wogbly abo wobbly because so much is weighted towards the we would any and there are these cuts in the budget today, medicaid cuts, food stamp and the like could be controversial with republicans as well as democrats . I think there is a lot of this budget blueprint that frankly is very much traditional conservative thinking on a number of different issues. Not fiscally solvent. Certainly i think the one deviation that is very problem matt particular from my perspective is the failure to address Social Security and medicare in any fundamental way. I think everyone agrees if you looking at the long term drivers of our deficit and debt, it is the structure of Social Security and the structure of medicare. Neither of those is dealt with. But i think on the flip side of it, you do have some of the reforms around the Disability Insurance program, around the second tranche of welfare reform. These are things that the republicans have been talking about. So there are things that republicans can get behind. The challenge is taken as a whole, there are enough pieces of it that are problematic that unfortunately i think it will be very difficult for congress to take this blueprint and work with it. I think that they will have to look at something maybe completely different and starting from scratch. I think we have to leave it there. Im so disappointed because i want to talk about how they are double counting 2 trillion and having it go both for deficit reduction and to pay for tax reform. They wouldnt be the first to have a gimmicky budget. Thats a pretty big gimmick. They with gare getting bigge bigger. To be continued. Thank you. Welcome back. And coming up, lawyering up. President trump preparing to retain outside counsel to help with the russia investigation. Our Reporter Panel joining us for the next inside scoop right hire on an tree a mifdrea mitch. Break through your allergies. Try new Flonase Sensimist allergy relief instead of allergy pills. It delivers a gentle mist experience to help block six key inflammatory substances. Most allergy pills only block one. New Flonase Sensimist changes everything. When a fire destroyed the living room. 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Leap to the conclusion that hes about to be hauled off in handcuffs any time soon. That is not going to happen. You need a lawyer because you need somebody who is ethically able to represent you and your personal interests and your legal interests. And the white House Counsel who represents now the president himself but the office of the presidency, has ethical limits on what he can do in terms of giving the president private legal advice. So this is a necessary step. It doesnt suggest anything other than its the prudent thing for the president to do. What the president is turning to the right lawyer, i dont know mr. Kasowitz, but i feel really strongly, because weve been through this before, that this is a very specialized kind of case. You need really a Washington Hand from my point of view. Somebody that can manage the threering circus of a criminal investigation, multiple overlapping congressional investigations, and intense press interest. This is a very specialized area, and you want somebody who has been through that ringer before. And were just were not in manhattan anymore. Were in washington, in the absolute spotlight. You want somebody who knows how to do these kinds of probes. Nick, the other piece of it is intelligence. You have all the legal issues surrounding getting through classified information, which can be used, the testimony, what defense lawyers typically do who are experienced with dealing with national intelligence. Yes, andrea. Im surprised and not surprised at the choice of kasowitz. He is a longtime trump hand. Hes worked on the president s in his previous life on aspects of his business and divorce cases. Hes tenacious, a bull dog, fiercely loyal to President Trump. So in that sense it makes sense. But as you point out, this is a very specialized work, and the issues it will raise are even more specialized. So it would not surprise me to see him bring in some Washington Hands, some other members of the team. This is going to be a very, very long fight. Its not going to be a short one. Itsgoing to occupy a few years of the president s term. I want to move to the case of seth rich. Its a story that has not reached enough prominence in the news, and you have an oped, a column from his parents saying that their son, who worked for the dnc and gunned down in washington in july of 2016, was not involved, as some of the altright people have been suggesting, not at all involved in the hacking of the dnc. Can you address that . Well, this family has suffered the ultimate tragedy in losing their very promising young son. And its been that tragedy has been exacerbated and exploited by people without any basis seeking to get some kind of political benefit by suggesting that seth rich, who was about to go to work for the clinton campaign, worked for the dnc, was somehow killed as a result of being involved with wikileaks. Theres no basis for this. And theres just a very heartbreaking we reached out to the rich family and his parents wrote this you cry when you read it, oped talking about how much more difficult this has made their lives, and the nightmare that they are waking up to close to a year after their sons death as people continue to really cynically exploit this death. And so everybody should read it and judge for themselves whether you want to inflict this kind of pain on people who are already suffering. And briefly, nick, fox news has now interestingly said that they are taking down their story, suggesting this conspiracy, and sean hannity, who was pushing it, said he will not be broadcasting about it any more. Nick . Sean hannity still owes an apology to the rich family. Hes peddled this absurd theory for days if not longer. It goes back to the vince foster conspiracy theorys under former president clinton, where a man who suffered badly, was made into the object of a fantasia for political purposes. This is a transparent effort to refocus attention away from President Trump and onto the dnc leaks. Its terrible its happening. Nick, ruth, thanks so much for being with us today on our inside scoop. More ahead. Well be right back. They can tell what im thinking, just by looking in my eyes. But what they didnt know was that i had dry, itchy eyes. I used artificial tears from the moment i woke up. To the moment i went to bed. So i finally decided to show my eyes some love,. Some eyelove. 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This does it for this edition of Andrea Mitchell reports. Follow us online. Katie is up next right here on msnbc. Good afternoon. Im in for craig melvin at msnbc headquarters right here in new york. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson is promising President Trump to be very tough on nato allies tomorrow. And flynn under fire. The subpoenas keep piling up for michael flynn, now from the senate and house intelligence committees. Can he plead the fifth again . And while the president continues his trip overseas, back in washington, big problems for the president s domestic agenda. The bum et dget is getting bash both sides of the aisle and theres already a negative cloud hanging over the score on the gop plan. Lets start with the subpoenas. Just as President Trump is trying to press his agenda on spending, investigators are turning up the heat on the man at the center of the russia investigation. Former National Security adviser michael flynn. Nbcs kasie hunt is on the hill and hans nickels is with the president. Kasie, you were able to speak with adam schiff about that subpoena. What did he say . R