this is a great opportunity to do it. >> msnbc contributor, chris sill list sa is here. is the president making his points? he's playing harry truman here. the blame game seems not to be having an impact so far. >> i'm not just saying this because he's my friend and on nbc, but i do think chuck todd and his question to the president got right to the heart of it. that was the central piece of it, he essentially asked, do you have the political juice to get this thing through congress? and really what he was asking about is the senate. because we know democrats control the senate but there's lots of mod ral conservative democrats, ben nelson, john tester, bill nelson in florida, claire mccaskill, worried about how this bill gets funded. this is a real test for the president. can he find a way to get something that resembles the americans jobs act through the senate to put the pressure on house republicans? and lot of his rhetoric was aimed at republicans, he mentioned mitch mcconnell and house republicans but he's got to get it through his own party and through the democratic controlled senate first before he can turn it and say the ball is his court. >> has the meeting with the democrats later this evening. the president is making his case about the jobs bill and john boehner, blaming the president for everything. it doesn't seem as though either side is communicating or even trying to. >> no, you know, andrea, the president said and mentioned it again today, said it a lot of times, the election is 13 or 14 months away but not really. the positioning for campaign 2012 is fully on, about a month ago the president went into this campaign rhetoric stage of his presidency and nothing i saw today suggests he's going to move off of it any time soon. >> chris cilizza, i'll see you later. the president is arguing though that his jobs plan is the best insurance policy against a double dip recession. pennsylvania senator bob casey is chairman of the joint economic committee and joins us now. do you buy that argument? that this jobs bill alone would prevent a double dip? >> i think the president has a lot of really good ideas about how to create jobs and he's responding to the message that i've heard all across pennsylvania. people tell me two things, do something about jobs and work together in a bipartisan way to get it done. i think the president is right to focus on jobs. i think his ideas will have a lot of support in the senate and across the country. and i think he's responding to what i hear all across pennsylvania. >> but you don't think that the size of the jobs bill is enough? where do you come down on whether this is a big enough approach? >> well, i think it's a bill that we can pass if we don't get any republican support, i hope we would, but if we don't and the bill doesn't get the votes we need, we wish it were 51 but the republicans will insist on 60. they could agree to a lower number. if we don't get 60, we have to go back to work. we should start putting one idea per week or one idea every couple of days on the table. we should have a vote on a payroll tax cut. we should have a vote on infrastructure and other strategies that we know will create jobs. if we do that, i think we'll be sk sesful in the end. it may not happen in one vote. but i think his plan will have pretty strong support across the board. i hope some republicans will join us. >> but senator, it sounds as though these are just votes pro forma votes to create a position and have a talking point for the election. not -- this is not going to pass. >> well, we'll see. we'll see what happens but, look, i think it's very important for members of the united states senate in both parties to be on the record on job votes. we shouldn't just have one vote, i think we should have a series of votes. we're working on one this week. we've got a great vote today, 62 senators to move forward a china currency bill which is really a job creation bill. we're getting to the point now of voting on job bills. that's what people are telling us they want us to do. they want us to respond to the real crisis that many families are still living through. >> the administration is not supporting the china currency bill, they are very concerned they are going to be retaliation and start a trade war. >> i don't agree with that. we're already in a war of one kind or another with china, which i think they initiated a long time ago. when they cheated on their currency, we lose jobs, that's irrefutable. we have to take strong action. i know the people in pennsylvania want us to take action because they know when we play by the rules and china doesn't, we lose jobs over the course of the last decade, even less than a decade, 107,000 jobs lost in pennsylvania because of the trade deficit with china, the driver of that is currency. we need to be strong and to be tough and correct it. we can still have a good relationship with china, but we need to correct this problem. >> i wanted to ask you with the anniversary of the afghanistan war tomorrow, this new pugh research that shows a third of the returning iraq/afghanistan post 9/11 veterans think that the wars were not worth fighting. they have suffered other post traumatic stress and other consequences. what is your feeling as we approach this anniversary? >> well, it's difficult to encap sue late the entire policy in one discussion, but there's no question now that the american people expect the drawdown of our troops to continue on schedule. as we're doing that, we have to make sure that we're not risking or undermining the security gains that we've achieved. our fighting men and women have done their job in ways that are remarkable. i was just there in afghanistan and pakistan in august. what we have to do is push much harder to make sure that president karzai and his government holds up thur end of the bargain as it relates to government and reform and rooting out corruption. we have to -- i think we have to be very determined as we go forward to make sure that the sacrifice and the effort and the success that our fighting men and women have brought to this effort is matched by our commitment to make sure as the drawdown proceeds, we do it in a way that keeps social security gains in place. >> senator casey, thank you very much. >> now to steve jobs. steve jobs foreshadowed his own death in a commencement address at stanford in which he tried to inspire an attitude toward life. >> your time is limited so don't waste it live being someone else's life. don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking. don't let the noise of others opinions drawn out your own inner voice. most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. they somehow already know what you truly want to become. everything else is secondary. >> "time" magazine stopped the presses last night, pushing a new cover into production after word of jobs' passing came around 7:30 eastern. richard stengel is "time's" editor and calls us on now. you called on izaac son who has written the biography which is now being -- publication date has been bumped to november 24th. got him to write an essay. let's talk about steve jobs and how large his influence was on our lives, the way we communicate, the global economy. >> he touches our lives in a myriad of ways and whether you're 8 or 85, you're somehow interacting with the world he created. walter did write a wonderful story for us. he talks about how steve jobs transformed six of the biggest industries in the country and the world, the movie business, the music business, tablets, phones. you name it, he has changed things mostly for the better. at the same time, he's not an inventor, creating consumer products, he's not creating science that will be used to discover cures or things like that. he's trying to make our lives better by enabling us to communicate better and enable us to receive information and content better. >> and one of fascinating things about him is his perfectionism and interest in design and interest in every architectural detail. let's talk about the apple stores. he really obsessed about that. >> yes, i mean, i think he came before the ipad came out to show us what it was like. a small meeting with a group of our editors and it was fantastic to have thatty your hand for the first time. i mentioned that i recently visited the apple store on the west side, he said that marble comes from a quarry in italy and not just one part of the quarry, it's the special part where i saw the marble i liked and talked about the composition of the glass and weight of the glass. he knew more about that building than the architect did, i think. and that was a building. that wasn't even the ipad. i remember even that day he talked for a very long time about the battery power of the ipad and how much research he had done in terms of different ways of using battery power. he was involved to a degree that's hard to imagine in the details of everything that he did. >> you had seven, including this one now, serve "time" magazine covers on steve jobs. take a look at the trajectory, when we just saw him starting out then of course the rise and fall and the rise and of course the tragic death, having been forced out of apple, he then created pixar and sold it for $7 billion to disney. this was a life that was larger than you can imagine. >> yes, as you say, he was also in many ways he may be the greatest american businessman of the 20th century and earliest part of the 21st century, have shrewd about business. one of things he did early on which people looked at as a mistake, he kemt tpt the integrn within itself, only apple could work with apple products. that led in the 80s to apple being less than 5% of the computer market and everybody thought maybe he had put himself out of business. but that would obviously change. >> richard stengel, thanks so much for sharing, the "time" magazine story out on the streets tomorrow. and more on steve jobs' life, legacy and his huge impact on the american culture still ahead and world culture, including how people are paying respects today at apple headquarters in california. plus, the rage against wall street spreadinging to new cities as unions join the massive protest movement in washington today. this is "andrea mitchell reports quts. 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>> they were looking for a messiah and it's very strange because they say they have one of weakest presidents in history. they are supported by the polls who shows obama around 40% approval. one third of all democrats saying they will not vote for him in 2012. you would think it would be easy to find a republican to beat him, yet the republicans are sort of frantically flaling around from bachmann to perry, back to romney, could it be christie, no, could it be palin? no. now they've come up with herman cain, i feel he is unnominatable in the republican party and unelectable as president. what people are really saying when they tell pollsters, they are saying none of the above, i don't like any of the republican field. i might as well go with a like i like personally, herman cain. >> joe biden was asked about his take on the republican field. >> who is the nominee against you? >> look, i have spent 30 years trying to figure out the democratic party and with little success, i might add on nominees so i have no idea. >> now, what about the calendar and impact on the calendar. we have florida january 31st and the latest we're hearing is nevada moving up. what will that impact be? will the republican chairman now in new hampshire insist on a full week between nevada and new hampshire? if he does, we'll spend chris ma in iowa. i love iowa but don't want to spend christmas in iowa. >> i spent christmas and new year's eve in iowa four years ago. likes like it might happen again. it demands iowa will be seven days or more. billy gardner is going to i predict say nevada's caucus is a similar election and he will simply move his date up. the importance of this though for people other than reporter who's want to spent christmas with their families. >> the time to organize. >> the time and the fact that the candidate with the most money and the best organization but especially the most money is going to come out very strong because if you're a back of the pack person hoping for an early victory to catapult you to the front and get a little money, you're not going to have that opportunity. >> rick perry has more cash on him. he has 15 million. hasn't been spending it,ize raising it. mitt romney will be well financed so we have a huge advantage. >> that's why i think those are the two front-runners, i will not count him out. >> tonight herman cain will be a guest on "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. back pain. then i tried this. it's salonpas. this is the relief i've been looking for. salonpas has 2 powerful pain fighting ingredients that work for up to 12 hours. and my pharmacist told me it's the only otc pain patch approved for sale using the same rigorous clinical testing that's required for prescription pain medications. proven. powerful. safe. salonpas. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... people are flocking to apple headquarters in california and apple stores around the world paying tribute to the man who changed the way we communicate with one each. steve jobs died at the age of 56, leaving behind a legacy that puts him in the same category as thomas edison and henry forward. john, what are people saying there? what is the mood out there? >> reporter: well, andrea, it's a somber day here in cupertino and the flags are at half mass in front of apple headquarters, there's a couple of dozen people at a makeshift memorial next to the campus, leaving remembrances. but work does go on and employees are going into the building continuing to go to work. and maeanwhile, from employees and rivals, the remembrances around silikon valley have been coming in. we've heard from the likes of john chambers at ciscoe systems and bill gates of microsoft and just across the spectrum, people talking about how important steve jobs was. mark zuckerberg leaving a note on his page thanking steve for being a mentor and a friend. so people continue to work here but also to remember. back to you. >> thanks so much. john fort in california at apple. meeting later today with his own democrats who are noticeably luke warm about some details of his jobs plan. joining us now congressman john lewis, a democrat from georgia who serves on ways and means committee. congressman, great to see you, thank so much for joining ugs today. first of all, i know you're a big supporter of the president. has he gone far and big enough with his jobs plan for your taste? >> well, i'm a big supporter not only of the president but i'm a big supporter of the jobs bill. we need to pass this bill, do what the president asks us to do to put people back to work. let's just do it. the time is now, the time is right. people are hurting and they need our help. >> i also want to ask you about a resolution that some in the house are proposing which is to demand an apology from rick perry for the stone, the sign on the stone at the hunting lodge that -- the hunting camp that his family had leased for so many years. do you think that that is in order? >> well, it may not be in order because if we start trying to get a resolution passed every time someone makes some silly crazy statement or someone have insensitive offensive word or says something, when do we stop? where do we stop? >> what was your reaction when that was revealed though by the "washington post"? there's been a lot of agreement back and forth between the perry people as to when it was painted over. just the whole sense of that history in recent decades at least? >> it is -- it is hard and difficult for me to believe that in this day and age as we make so much progress that in recent years someone would have this offensive word on iraq or any place and especially a public official. we need to lay down the burden of racism, the burden of hate and move on. >> and i wanted to -- in that context ask you about the loss, the death of an iconic leader, fred shuttle worth and talk about his legacy today. >> he is the last of a kind. this unbelievable fighter, this unbelievable warrior. i first met him more than 50 years ago when we were brought back to birmingham during the freedom riot in may of 1961. he was there to greet us. when we were trapped in a church in montgomery a few days later as we have been beaten at the greyhound bus station, he was there, rallying the crowd and supporting us. his home was bombed and church was bombed. he was beaten. but he was fearless. he is one of the most courageous individuals of the movement. we will miss him. he was such a kind, beautiful, loving human being. he was a true leader of the birmingham movement during the time when the police commissioner used dogs and fire hoses on little children. >> well, the reverend shuttlesworth, died in birmingham, he was 89. we thank you so much congressman lewis for your memories. >> thank you. >> over half a century, to 1970, six million black americans uprooted themselves and moved north and west seeking a better life and more equality. their epic struggle is brilliantly captured in the narrative nonfiction of journalist isabel wilkerson's the warmth of other suns. she joins me from new york. it's wonderful to see you. huge add mirror of your writing and reporting. you worked for 15 years on this book to capture the stories and actually trace the routes of many of these people who were migrating. what was the prime motivation? were they escaping from the discrimination down south to better economic opportunities? were they looking for equality? what did you find as you reported this book. >> essentially this migration of 6 million african-americans was in some ways a defekts from a system that held them in its grip that made it illegal, for example, for a black person and white person to merely play checkers in birmingham, the home of fred shuttlesworth, that you mentioned before and it would be required that african-americans and whites could not touch the same bible when swearing to tell the truth in courtrooms. this system controlled their lives from the movement they walk up to the time they went to bed and affected whites and blacks restricting everything they could do, their every interaction. on top of that, it required that there were only certain things that they could do. there were so many limits put upon them. many of them were in some ways still living in a world that was requiring them to live almost as kind of new kind of slavery, in which they were share croppers and working the land. they would see nothing from years of hard labor. and when they left, they were in some ways seeking political asylum within their own country. it's the only time citizens of america, that americans had to flee one part of their own country to find freedom in another part of their own country, to find -- to become the citizens they had been born to. >> and as part of your reresearch, you rented the same kind of car, an old buick, that one of your characters had driven on the migration and went on a 2,000 mile journey across the country with your own parents. >> i sure did. >> tell us about that experience. >> the book is about three amazing people who lived through this and it took 1200 interviews in order to find them. one of them had been a surgeon who had been a surgeon in the army, but it turned out he could not practice surgery in his own home town of monroe, louisiana. he set on the journey that turned to be more perilous than he imagined. he drove through the desert and mountains without being able to stop through three states of the west. he hadn't anticipated that. i wanteded to relive that, and reenact that in order to make it come alive for the reader. i rented a buick as he had and i had my parents in the car with me. they too had been part of this great migration. and they were retired and willing to go. and so i got to the part of the drive in which the road gets mean. you're in the middle of the desert and it's night and you've gone so long without sleep and i wanted to know what it was like to grip the wheel for so long that your fingers begin to ache and your eyes grow we'ary from sleep and there's still more road to get to what he perceived as freedom. at a person point i veered from the road, i was falling asleep at the wheel. my parents said you must stop the car. and if you don't stop the car, let us out. and we then stopped in huma, arizona, because things had changed so much since 1953, we had no trouble finding a place to stay. it only raised my sense of empathy for what heho had had t go through because he didn't have that option, neither did millions of other americans who did not have options that we now take for granted today. their depart tour helped to make -- forced the north and south to make changes that ultimately all americans can benefit from. >> when we think about it, it's a history of the the economic changes, the manufacturing changes, the cultural changes and the music. this migration was -- had such an effect on all of our societies, thanks so much for sharing this. this is a book that was on president obama's summer reading list and many many other people. of course the new york times best seller. thanks so much isabel wilkerson. >> thanks so much for having me. >> great to have you here today. congresswoman gabby giffords back in washington for the retirement ceremony of her husband navy captain mark kelly. the last time sefs seen in public was in early august when she made the surprise appearance to cast her vote to raise the debt ceiling. and up next, the romney doctrine, a preview of his foreign policy speech with his newest top adviser. and another reminder of steve jobs' impact on our culture beyond technology. there's advertising. >> we shall prevail. >> on january 24th, apple computer will interest due mcintoch and you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984. >> really helps this conversation about our country get started. i vote to keep this conversation going november 2008. 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wait until you see the results of our poll. it's all coming up in about 15 minutes. today mitt romney announced a team of dozens of foreign policy and national security advisers as a precursor to what his campaign is calling a major foreign policy speech scheduled for tomorrow in south carolina. richard williamson is a former u.s. ambassador and member of that team and someone we know well. thank you very much for being with us today. first of all, mitt romney is in south carolina and meeting with veterans at this hour as a matter of fact. and we've got the anniversary of the afghanistan war tomorrow. i wanted to ask you about what romney said in a major foreign policy announcement or pronounce. me ment in the new hampshire debate. he was in favor of withdrawing from afghanistan but not any faster or not against the advice of the generals, which created a big stir, people like danny plet ka said, wait a minute we thought he was a mainstream republican, is he saying withdraw right away? is he saying he would listen to the general's advice? what is your interpretation of his position on the afghanistan war? >> first, andrea, thank you for letting me visit with you. we're excited about tomorrow's opportunity for governor romney to layout his foreign policy and the need for the 21st century to be an american century. in afghanistan he's been critical of the president's rapid drawdown, the fact that the president didn't follow the advice of any of his generals, the fact that his cia director testified that he didn't agree with the direction he went. so president obama has not done helped finish the job, governor romney thinks the job has to be finished. he believes we need to continue and accelerate our training of afghan security forces, both army and police. he and ambassador ryan, we have the best most experienced diplomats in history, we could work with him and make a smooth secure transition. but andrea, i was involved back in 1988 when we got the soviets to withdraw and we paid a price for leaving afghanistan in chaos. and while governors huntsman and perry are to the left of president obama on afghanistan, governor romney wants to see the job done but at the same time recognizes ultimately afghanistan's fate will be with the afghanis. >> what has caused the confusion, to quote governor romney, he said on june 13th, it's time to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can. then he added of course consistent with the generals. in of course he was asked about it, we've helped the people in afghanistan establish freedom from the taliban. now we're at the point where they have to earn and keep the freedom themselves. this is not something we're going to do forever. you're saying that he is still against leaving on the accelerated pace that the president has set out? >> the precipitous withdrawal that president obama suggested and none of his own generals supported suggested by governors hunts man and perry would leave afghan san in chaos. it would undercut the work of our brave men and women in afghanistan and it would leave iran and afghanistan and pakistan in the worst situation, which endangers our security in a variety of ways. >> thank you very much. we look forward to the speech tomorrow and governor a romney, as i say is in south carolina and he'll be meeting with veterans. we've got a picture of the room there as they await the arrival of the candidate. thanks so much rich williamson from the romney campaign. in the next 24 hours, that's next on "andrea mitchell reports." follow the wings. 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