we begin this slit with breaking news out of iraq. we have to take an updated death toll from last earthquake. more than 2000 people now confirmed dead. another 2000 are hurt after the quake rocked the country's atlas mountains. officials are reporting extensive damage in cities across the region, including marrakech, a popular tourist destination and unesco world heritage site. nbc's priscilla thompson is following the story for us. what is the latest? >> alicia, it is that death toll which has risen by a built 1000 people over the course of today. and we know there are rescue crews on the ground. they are working to get into some of those mountainous areas in the atlas mountains, trying to get to folks to rescue folks who may still be trapped in the rubble. we know it is situations like this, time is of the essence. and getting to those folks in time is going to be a challenge because of the amount of destruction and devastation. a lot of the buildings and structures there, we are talking about things built out of a non reinforced concrete that literally just crumbled as soon as they started shaking. they were not built for this type of forest. and so rescue workers are certainly going to have a time trying to get to the folks, and we're also hearing more about what exactly happened when all of this unfolded at around 11 pm there in morocco. as folks were sitting and restaurants, and we saw a video of people literally running out of those restaurants, running through the straits, as buildings were collapsing around them, many people spending the not in the straits, too afraid to go back inside those buildings. they awaited aftershocks and just to see how those structures were going to do, and we are hearing reports, accounts from witnesses that it looked like doomsday. one man who lost five friends, and so you can imagine with a death toll that high, how much that is impacting people personally. and president biden has said he is in touch with moroccan officials, working to ensure the safety of americans who might be there, and also prepared to send any resources as they continue this search and rescue and recovery effort. alicia? >> the stories and the officials, absolutely devastating. nbc's priscilla thompson, thank you. we will be following the story over the next two hours. let's turn now to the republican race for president. donald trump, working to consolidate support of top publicans, despite his long list of felony charges across four separate jurisdictions. today, trump isn't iowa to meet iowa state rivalry football game, this after appearing for the not and south dakota, alongside governor kristi noem. she endorsed trump for president at the rally in rapid city. quite the movement, when you consider the man they governor endorsed could be a convicted felon, maybe even in jail by election day. as for his legal woes. a federal judge has ruled against trump's from what hatchet of stuff mark meadows, denying his push to move his georgia criminal case to federal court. new revelations from the special grand jury report and georgia about republican efforts to subvert the 20 elections that. slightly gradually becoming the intimates of 21 additional people who ultimately or not charged alongside trump last month. among them, south carolina senator lindsey graham, from georgia senators david perdue and kelly loeffler. senator graham not only definitely entrance he took after the election but going farther, saying the sheer effect he was investigated is bad for the country. >> this is troubling for the country. we can't criminalize senators doing their job when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. we are opening up pandora's box. i think the system in this country is getting off the rails and we have to be careful not to use the legal system as a political tool. >> joining me now, msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin, msnbc political analyst fernand amandi, the host of the strange days podcast, and msnbc political contributor matthew dowd, who served as chief strategist for the both cheney cousin for presidential campaign. good to see you here. i will start with you, lisa. you just heard senator graham protecting the process. you had senator loeffler actually echoing the talking matthew dowd matthew dowd point, calling it to church system of justice. when you look at the report, what is a telling you about america's system? >> it tells me that american justice system is perhaps healthier and i think it is, right? the fact there are 21 people who did not ultimately face indictment is a sign of strength because it reflects that at least in some cases fani willis and her team paused. they thought about what those charges were and if they could sustain a jury verdict after trial. and in some cases, that must have been determined, the answer was no. granted when i look at this list of 21 people, i see on a tent fake electors and my understanding is that not of them have since fixes immunity deals. the tent is a person funded willis herself is eligible to prosecute. but there are a number of other people on this list, including senator graham, senators loeffler and perdue, i believe that fani willis and her team took a good look at prospective charges against him and made a determination that they weren't people who could be charged here. >> does that make they are without legal exposure, given the fact there are now multiple people in -- investigations into what happened? >> not necessarily. i think probably senator purdue and loeffler, whose activities at least as far as we know more limited to the state of georgia and -- probably out of the woods. senator graham may be as well. that's probably because of the -- debate clause. even if a prosecution of him could coexist with the constitutional speech -- clause which protects members of congress and their functions as members of congress, it would take so much litigation to get to a point where we could establish that he could be prosecuted that jack smith and his team have maybe the it's not worth it. >> i was up at six this morning, as i often am, reading about what happened in south dakota last night. i was so struck by the fact that you have the governor of the state essentially sponsoring a pep rally for donald trump who was organized by the state republican party, not by the trump campaign, because trump's campaign has tried to reduce as cost especially as trump's legal face mount, it has welcomed opportunities for the former president to attend a large-scale events held by other groups, rather than staging its own expensive ones. i wonder what that tells you, both about the state of the trump campaign, they're in south dakota! nobody is worried about republicans winning and south dakota. this is for him about the optics of seeing his fans and supporters come out and fully behind him. >> yeah, it's about the optics of both of these people. it's about the optics of the governor. the optics of donald trump. she's not just paying for a rally, she's pin for her on audition, is what she's doing in the midst of this. i think this, i mean, if donald trump does have money was because of a legal case against him, and the fact that he's using campaign money to pay for all his legal woes, my guess is, over the course of the next year and two months, he's going to have the money assert to run a campaign. but this does tell you, as you look at this, kristi noem was a sort of credible character for a long period of time and just like so many other republicans, she's thrown away her own personal integrity, her own personal character to sort of just completely go into this production phase. she wants to be trump's vp. she expects donald trump, and i expect donald trump to be the nominee. and it continues to devolve into this cult like state of the gop. >> yes -- fernandez, during the rally, trump stopped with his own script, painting the nation as on the cusp of collapse. not for the reasons he might be responsible for. trump again told his support was not he is, quote, being indicted for you, you've being his supporters. some of his supporters even or t-shirts with his mugshot on it. i wonder where that leaves us and by us i made american democracy as we inch closer to plentiful? >> it leaves us and one of the most vulnerable positions by think the country and their public has been under and probably 200 years. you have to get back to the civil war were the survival of the republic was at stake. i go back to what was mentioned earlier. if you think about what that grand jury did, not even fully willis, what the gradually did they didn't just choose to indict donald trump, in essence, what they're saying was they are indicting the republican party as a whole, for efforts to overturn the election. it wasn't just trump alone. alveoli the attorney there did not make the decision to move forward with some of the others, where it was lawful or graham or others, but the notion the grandeur of which there were republicans on that grand jury, that great jury was made up of several different folks, made the decision to indict in essence the party as a whole. and i think fundamentally americans, not the maga cult base, but americans are seeing this. from trump's perspective, he's also doing as matthew touched on earlier, the political necessity steps he's trying to lock down the nomination. and -- every prospective republican, your vice esidential candidate, potentially, but going to cost you your endorsement and therefore your delicate so he can stop up delegates and further lockdown the nomination. that's what's happening. >> they are all sudden around, gambling pardons as it is, even as they attempt to run against him theoretically. it strikes me that you have mark meadows trying to move to federal court, when you have republicans who generally love to talk about states rights and love to rail against federalism, actually kind of show in their hand. >> i thought it was fascinating. because as we say, this is a conservative legal movement in particular that finish arises federalism in essence. but what they have tried to do is remove these cases from the province of state prosecutors and state courts, move him into federal courts. that's the exact opposite of what they've been saying for here is. and judge stephen jones and his opinion last not coat them on it. he said, the whole purpose of federal officers removal is to prevent state interference with constitutionally protected federal activities. it is not to allow federal interference with constitutionally protected the actions. those constitutionally protected the actions here many funny willis as an elected district attorney taking steps to enforce her states laws with respect to the conduct of elections and others. >> that's not the only place, matt dowd, where you see some intellectual inconsistency. fani willis pushed back against jim jordan's investigation into her investigation. slam him over hers concerns into her use of federal funding. rising,, if you and your colleagues followed through on your threat to tonight's office a federal friends, please be aware it will be dissident to allow a serial rapist to prosecuted, hate crimes to be unrest, and to cancel programs for at risk to them. here you have a party in the past purported to be the party of law and order. you need look no further than 16 to see that was a lot of talk and not a lot of action. but her colleague jim jordan on this once again reveals the hypocrisy. >> i got to say, your description of them being intellectually and consistent is the most diplomatic term i have heard on television. it is like crazy corrupt our, that's what it is. this is where we go. i'm going to follow up on something fernand said. this is the point we have rate which is extraordinarily dangerous at this point of time. we have these legacy parties who might have disagreed with their stance on certain issues for the length of the time of our country's history it basically said, okay, we disagree but we believe in the competition. we believe in law and order. we believe in this. and will disagree about all these other policy thing. we no longer have that. we no longer have that in our country. and it's an abdication. this is what i say, donald trump as a symptom of the problem. a fundamental symptom of the problem. getting rid of don trump and the charade around him is not going to solve the root problem of this, which is a republican party gone completely corrupt. >> but fernand amandi, matt dowd, as always, thanks for getting us started. lisa it is sticking with me next. a lingering constitutional conundrum of keeping trump off the appellate. it move movement in those state lead efforts. plus two republican shock jocks like mike huckabee and sarah palin really believe we are barreling toward civil war? 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>> a couple of things, putting this case just in the general context where does this stand, trump has greater exposure to e. jean carroll on the case that remains for trial than he even did in the one that's already been tried. why? because this case actually concerns the first time he made statements about e. jean carroll that he did know her, she was in his time, the sexual assault never happened. as with many mistruths, the first time you say it is the most damaging. so e. jean carroll having already recovered $5 million from donald trump or at least putting him on the hook for it, that judgments on appeal. she's in a position to recover a whole lot more from him. this, time not only because was the first time he said it but because for punitive damages, the damage to her reputation over a period of time has been so willful on his behalf. >> and when you see it in the context of the other cases? >> we've seen on the context of the other cases around him, there's good and bad for him because this trial is gonna be much shorter now. it's not going to interfere with his political calendar in the same way. on the other hand, it definitely suggests that every time donald trump won is tipper quitter given a deposition, that will have reverberations on that one case. that suggests to us that in the new york attorney generals case coming up or in other cases, when donald trump is on tape and there are lots of people, alicia, as you and i know, raffensperger amongst -- them who have taped him, that's when he gets in trouble. and we know that jack smith has tips of his own. to >> murder also when we talk about the latest e. jean carroll case, but it says to you about the way trump used juries and the way that he views accountability. >> this development in the e. jean carroll case is paired with what we saw this week in the release of the special ground to a board. and in his reactions to both of them, trump is showing a general disdain for the most democratic of our processes. we bring together a number of people, whether it's 12 jurors or almost three people in the special purpose grand jury who come from all walks of life, and yet, he tells us when he stands up at his rallies, i'm here for you, i'm vindicating this principle for you. but he doesn't agree with judgments that the common man has cast upon him. he is not a person who believes and every day americans, and their ability to judge him while he purports to stand up for them. >> there's an actual symmetry there with trying to undoing peoples lawful votes, i want to make sure that we get to this 14th amendment argument which is encourages secretaries of state to remove donald trump from the ballots. here's what georgia secretary of state will brad raffensperger wrote, for secretary of state to remove a candidate but only reinforce the grievances of those who see the system as rigged and corrupt. denying voters the opportunity to choose is fundamentally un-american. listen, i know your here as a legal analyst and there is one thing to analyze legally, and it's another thing to analyze this and the court of public opinion, in the way that it lands for the average american. >> i don't think secretary of state would even be in this position if congress would do its job. if you remember the person we had a discussion of section three in the 14th amendment was almost immediately after january 6th when members of congress considered do we need to implement legislation that would affection be a -- the congress have to act to make sure that donald trump wasn't eligible to run for president again, had they acted, then we wouldn't be having the sort of debate that we're having between colorado and georgia about whether secretaries of state should be on the hook from making that determination themselves. >> whoever thought that we would be sitting on national television talking about section three of the 14th amendment? 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the newly elected state supreme court judge janet participates. republicans are going after because she spoke the truth about their heavy gerrymandered electoral maps. there is a danger to -- of course, take sarah palin suggesting a violent civil war corruptive donald trump loses in 2024. joining us now, angela kherson, president and ceo of -- for the washington post. he's also the author of the aftermath, the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america. philip, let's talk about the future of our america. what does it say to you that these two are talking about the possibility of a civil war, and specifically, the level of vitriol against our country's democratic institutions. >> i think it's important when we're talking about -- and sarah palin, everyone recognizes that they are the performance to some extent. they're trying to cultivate an audience, they're trying to say things to stay relevant, stay on television. this is the thing they're choosing to say is important. choosing to say these things about violence, about responding to politics, they're choosing to do that because that is where the audience wants to hear. obviously, we can talk about the next years of how this has been building overtime. but this is the way in which they are seeking to appeal to this large mass of voters that supported on trump, that, given, though there are performers and entertainers, they are choosing this avenue to try to get applause and attention, that's in itself concerning. >> phil makes a great point and i think part of what is so complicated is that brad a moment where the line between performer, and detain, or person with soft power and people with hard power is really blurry, right. you had trump at a rally in south dakota on friday, again, a person, a performer, entertainer, grab, or former president of the united states. this is his first rally since's fourth indictment and he repeated a lot of his favorite lies. one of which, is i am being indicted for you, incredibly dangerous. and then another one that caught my attention in the context of your in my conversations which as he called television networks evil. right? so talk to me about both of those pieces. but this idea of trying to pretend that he is being prosecuted not for his own acts but somehow for his supporters and this idea of calling institution principle. >> i think it's significant because, we have to decipher some of the stuff sometimes and i think, i sound more like alex jones, connecting the dots. but there's actually a lot of significance to what he said. because one of the things, we talk about how to be in power, and -- it's pale reflections of what is actually happening in the [inaudible] when you look at what is happening in the before swamps, that rhetoric about civil war is very widespread. and one thing that's gonna lie on top of that in the next couple of months is additional reasons, more religious rhetoric, more religious seasoning being peppered in. so now they've been talking about all the voices behind the stealing of the elections, democrats, all that stuff that they've been saying for a while. now they're saying that they are demonic. now they're using increasingly religious terms. it's not just the more extreme figures than most of your audience and us have ever heard about before, even people like jesse waters have been talking about the fact that these forces are demonic. it's all across fox news, it's all across right-wing media. so what has been happening in the right-wing media audiences they've been hearing this term, not just in political terms but now they're hearing it in religious terms and so when trump gets up there and uses language like evil, which he's attacked the media before, that's not something new, but when he started telegenic this narrative where he himself is suffering for them to protect them, save, them they have an obligation to sort of rally, what he's starting to do is paint him self in messianic terms. that is the connective tissue here which is the providing additional justification for violence by making it religious, and trump himself is stepping into that increasing cauldron of interest by painting himself more explicitly as a messianic figure. we saw how damaging that was with the qanon conspiracy. he's just fully embracing that masonic role now and that comment was sort of a signal of that. >> philip, i see you green so into give you a chance to get trump, and but i want to talk about what's going on on the other side of the screen, where each is you have president biden launching this unexpected advertisement blitz, leaning into this campaign, of defending democracy, pitching that to an nfl audience. it would seem they know that a counter narrative here is extremely necessary. >> yes, the reason why i was not dealing with angelo is because trump is so consumed -- it's essential to his [inaudible] again, the biden administration -- joe biden, as soon as he came into office in 2020, when some of the four speeches he gave, including his parents session of congress, were focused on the battle between democracy and autocracy. this is been potent for a long time now but course in january, february of 2021, he pointed clearly to an example of a very real physical struggle between democracy and autocracy that unfolded at the capitol. he is repeated that thing, he's come back to that theme, he's come back to the theme, he's held summits on democracy. he came back to this theme in his last speech before the midterm elections. he focused on, look, we have to battle for american democracy. absolutely, this is partly political, he knows it resonates with his base. but he pretty obviously believes. that he predicated his entire campaign in 2020 on the attack in charlottesville. that of course was his manifestation of these two different forces that are struggling in the united states that eventually were ramped into these autocratic forces democratic struggle. this is how he chooses to launch his major adolescent 2024. he's talking about going to ukraine, standing alongside zelenskyy, opposing putin, he was saying it in -- as there are these powerful autocrat somewhat to take. power i'm standing with the side of democracy. he doesn't need to be -- it's not that subtle who he's talking about. in his fight. he is making this a core part of his campaign. again, it appeals to democrats, but it really is i think both you valid struggle and something that he thinks is a fiber happening. inks>> i want to make sure thate talk about what's happening in wisconsin and the way in which something that could very often seem theoretical, esoteric, something like gerrymandering which is hard to talk about on tv. it seems to me that what you are watching in wisconsin is a good distillation of the challenge that democrats and democracy at large is up against which is that republicans will not take voters weighing in through the democratic process as an answer. >> yeah, but the important thing about wisconsin i think a lot of people are forgetting is wisconsin has been in stand she aided as an unfair place. when we talk about what's happening in wisconsin of gerrymandering, it's not just because they passed new gerrymandering maps, they pass them in 2012. in 2016, all these assembly seats were out, republicans won 53% of the vote, they won 64 of 96. and then in 2018, all the seats were back up. this time democrats won between -- one 63, that was 2018, right? this was five years ago. wisconsin went -- with republicans very quickly moved to limit the powers of the governorship because they didn't want them to have power. wisconsin has been front and center. so the battle we are seeing today isn't over, a switching to this more autocratic less democratic system. it's a battle over having to fight and pushing back on it and that's what's changed in wisconsin. that's the important moment that state is seeing. >> philip, we angelo 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million dollar emergency relief fund for childcare was passed under president biden's american rescue plan in 2021. here's the thing, it expires september 30th of this year. look at your calendar, that is only a few weeks away. the investment not only kept the industry of float but really helped families by waiving some payment requirements. now, an estimated 70,000 child care programs could close if congress does not extend it. this is an estimated 3.2 million parents who could lose the childcare they depend on to work and provide. >> it's gonna hard to find quality childcare so i think it's important to have a school like this for all the children to have an opportunity to learn and basically grow. >> i love my school and i love my teacher because my teacher teaches me how to learn stuff. >> they could be, say, there will be a rumor that could close based on the finding that we don't receive. that means that you can have 20 or 30 children that won't be attending preschool anymore. >> so far, congress members nancy mace and -- don together to announce the congressional bipartisan affordable cow childcare caucus, putting the issue front and center. it's move supported by our next guest we saw this crisis coming and said this recently about congress and its priorities -- >> we are about to be facing a childcare cliff that's coming in september. over 3 million kids are going to be left without childcare. hundreds of thousands of childcare workers are going to be out of a job. that's a threat to our economic security. quite frankly, congress acted faster in having taylor swift hearings on ticketmaster than they have on the childcare cliff. that is absolutely unacceptable. >> reshma saujani trying to be, now ceo and founder of moms first, she's also the author of pay up, the future of women and work and why it is different than you think. reshma, that september 30th deadline was known, the impending childhood crisis -- there are no surprises here, so why are we here? >> we're here because we put moms last. we have always treated mothers as our social safety net. and we're not prioritizing families. here's the thing, everybody, whether your parent, whether you're republican, whether you live in idaho or you live in new york city, you're gonna feel the effects of this child -- of us going off the childcare cliff. 3 million kids are gonna be out of childcare, hundreds of thousands of childcare workers are gonna be out of a job. parents, who are barely being able to put food on the table are gonna see the cost of their child care go up by hundreds of dollars a month. congress is still doing nothing about it. >> here's the thing that i think frustrate so many of us that care about this issue, even if they somehow rectify this september 30th deadline, they still have not reckoned with the bigger issue here which is that you have the childcare industry in this country, but many experts have called a failed market, and no real appetite to reckon with the reality that we live in a country where most people have to work, even though they are in a two income households, both parents have to work to make ends meet, and child care industry does not work for providers, and it does not work for families. >> that's right, even before the fact of the inclusion of these pandemic funds, the childcare system in our country has been broken. 40% of parents go into debt because of the cost of childcare. most families pay more for their childcare than they do for their mortgage. that is just about cost. let's talk about availability. half of americans live in child care deserts. the reality is so much of this burden falls on moms, falls on women, because we still live in a country where two thirds of the caregiving work is being done by women. ever not being paid fairly. so when the cost of your child care steiner sunday costs -- you basically work to work, guess who's being pushed out of the workforce? women. >> and then you add to that the fact that most of the providers of child care in a professional environment are also women. you've got a real double whammy there. another thing that i wanted to talk to you about, reshma. there are policy consequences that i care about deeply, there's also the second element hit, the political message that it sensed to american families if congress doesn't make this a priority, right? you've been a candidate for office, you've been in the midst of political campaigns, you know this wealth. there's both the substance here of what this means for the american economy, and there's also what you're saying to voters saying,, yes that very basic economic need to have to drop your kid off somewhere safe for a few hours so that you can go to work? that was nothing that we thought was most important. >> that's, right in the beginning of this, to you referred to the panel that i did with -- and nancy mace. and nancy said that this is like number 16 on the list in congress. it's not even one, two, three, or four. that's just how little we care about mothers. we care frankly about families. i really do believe that if we do our job right in moms first, and we continue to build this loud movement of moms and parents who are prioritizing this issue who want congress people to prioritize it, they're gonna feel the effects of. it because they're getting this all wrong. this isn't a social issue. this is an economic issue. when we go over the cliff, we're gonna lose 10.6 billion dollars in economic revenue because it is going to lead to worker shortages, it's gonna lead to nurses, teachers, hospital workers, people who already -- we need desperately more of, they're gonna have to put their jobs because they can find childcare. you can compete with china? that's the big conversation in congress right now? fix the childcare problem. childcare, childcare, childcare. period. >> period, we're gonna keep following the story until we get to september 30th and be on. and reshma saujani, as always, 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>> thanks so much, elise, for having me and for bringing up this issue. the decision my family and i had to me make to leave tennessee was a hard decision for, us we love the community that we were in and i move to the southeast where i had done my training in order to be in that space and provide care to those patients who trained me and to provide support to the community providers who are doing amazing work providing care to patients in more rural spaces. ultimately, we decided to make the move to colorado when it became abundantly clear that i could lose my entire livelihood if i stayed and at some point, my life was going to be pitted against the life of a patient, and that was an untenable situation for me. >> it's so heartbreaking to hear. for those who are not intimately familiar with the work that you do, paint a picture for us. what was it -- i hear often from providers that their concern is that they will be in a moment where they need to be making a life or death choice for a patient and instead of being focused on their medical training among their patient, there could be on the phone with the legal department trying to suss out whether or not what they are -- what is needed to do falls within the gray area of laws. what is it you anticipated was going to happen in your care? >> so i think some of the background that's important is the ban went into effect in tennessee was a complete ban, with no exceptions. not even for maternal life. the only wiggle room that we had with something called an affirmative defense which is still in place, which means that if i performed a procedure to save someone's life, then i would be charged with a felony and have to prove in court that what i did was to save someone's life. so automatically having to provide lifesaving care is something that putting at risk. >> i go back to what you said about putting your life against your patient's life which is -- it's just not a fair tenable's position to be put in, what does it mean for patients in states that now have these abortion bans that doctors, who specifically moved to the states to provide care, are now in some cases feeling it is completely necessary to leave, because you cannot provide the kind of care you want. >> i really appreciate you bringing that up. i think that's the most important part about this story is the people who are being left behind, the patients who need that care, who are still in these communities with doctors who are doing everything that they can to continue caring for them under these restrictions knowing that they may lose a patient or that they may lose their livelihood. and that is just not the way that we were taught to do medicine. we were taught to take care of people and to look at the situation from a clinical perspective, not to have a lawyer and a politician join us in our exam rooms and that is what's really happening. it's not the decision between me and my patient anymore which completely ruins the patient doctor relationship and i have to tell someone something about their pregnancy and say, in the state, regardless of what's happening with you, this care that i can provide is now illegal. >> i want to bring up a stat that we just showed, one third of counties in tennessee are already considered maternity care deserts. there are doctors like you leaving the state because of the ban. what does that mean for maternity care in those areas? >> it's not a secret that the united states has a maternal mortality crisis already. even pre roe. there are deserts across the country where people couldn't access safe maternal care, much less abortion care. tennessee was one of the states. the ones that -- prior to the dobbs decision and we have some of the worst maternal mortality in the country. so that's just making that worse. we're creating a vacuum where these states that already had very poor maternal health outcomes is going to continue to spiral, and we're gonna continue to see worsening maternity mortality rates. that's terrifying for those of us in this field that are doing everything in our power to keep families healthy and alive. >> doctor leilah zehedi-spung, thank you so much for taking the time for sharing your story and your obvious care for your we patients. 2000 or more dead are dead at the earthquake, the ultimate hole hard to fathom. plus, naming names. georgia's grandeur release names of the grand jury indictment. it's all long who's who of those willing to dismantle democracy in the name of donald trump. later, the republican re-brand, the party slapping new paint on a grand old belief that hopes that voters don't know this. we will make sure you do. after this. do after this ...in real time. 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