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Of the right for women to vote. That was granted for only white women. Africanamerican and many asian and latinex women were barred from citizenship and voting. Black men and women were blocked from voting by racist local laws until the Voting Rights act of 1965. The u. S. Womens suffrage movement, the way its taught and understood and characterized to this day often erases the prominent role of black women. Women like beabolitionists sojournsojour sojourner truth. And women like the sisters of delta sigma theta, an early black sorority founded at howard university. They ban tousished to a segrega section when they joined the march, something ida refused to do, instead marching with the white women. This boiled down to the right to participate as organizers and citizens, as voters and political candidates continues today under a president who is refusing to fund the post office in what looks like a clear attempt to steal this election. But a remarkable shift occurred this week when a woman, who is black and asian and the daughter of immigrants joined the democratic ticket in an effort to defeat donald trump and his version of america. Kamala harris is no accident, ladies and gentlemen. She is the result of a movement, one a century in the making. And joining me now is erin haynes of the 19th, who nabbed the first interview with senator harris after she joined the ticket and someone who certainly needs no introduction on this show but were going to introduce her anyway, my friend, my pal, the amazing joy reid, host of the historic showed, the reidout and the man who sold america, it is illuminating. Joy, ill get to you in a second. I want to start with you, erin. You know i think youre such an amazing reporter and writer but you came through yesterday like an Ice Cream Truck on a hot day and you got that scoop, lady, so we need to talk about it. I have to ask you, what was the most surprising thing about that interview . I watched it, i thought it was great. You did an amazing job. What did the senator say that surprised you most . I think what surprised me the most, just kind of overall was that you could really tell how much shes evolved as a political athlete since her candidacy for president a year ago. You know, this was somebody who was forceful. The way that she talked about the urgency of voting, you know, telling people to literally jump over whatever obstacles were in their way to get to the ballot box in november. How she was able to tie her historic candidacy to as Vice President to the historic suffrage secentennial and how i came together to make her the voice for joe biden and calling that an audacious, risky choice. This is no the Kamala Harris that voters got to see a year ago but it is the Kamala Harris that voters will be introduced to heading into the general election. M i cant overstate the historic nature. I want to play a sound bide when you asked her about joe biden choosing a black woman. Did you feel joe biden needed to choose a black woman or a woman of color as his running mate and is that something you talked to him about at any point in this process . Joe biden had the audacity to choose a black woman to be his running mate. How incredible is that and what a statement about joe biden, what he decided that he was going to do that thing that was about breaking one of the most substantial barriers that has existed in our country, and that he made that decision with whatever risks that brings. Well, what does it bring . Does it bring risk . And if so, what are those risks, erin . Well, i thisnk it must be acknowledged that this is a ticket that is running in a very racially polarized climate in this country, despite the National Reckoning we have around race, that reckoning is a push back to a lot of the racism, frankly that, we have seen resurface. I would say not just since 2016 but really over the past decade, dating back to the rise of the tea party and the leelection of the first black president , barack obama. There is no promise in our country without racial backlash. That is what this ticket is up against, even as we are marking this historic candidacy, she certainly acknowledges that but knows thats not going to be enough to motivate voters this year, simply making history. You know, they are still going to have to persuade folks. She is somebody who, you know, is also im seeing being cheered by not just black women. Its a diverse range of people who are excited to see her because of the qualifications that she brings to this ticket. But i certainly have also seen already youre seeing the racial play book that is coming out from the president , that he has been using around issues of race and gender, using that against senator harris, even in less than 72 hours that she has been on the ticket, that is already something that was emerging. So, you know, i think that that was kind of the risk that she was alluding to in what she called an audacious choice. I thought it was interesting that he brought it back to the birtherism attack. I was thinking are your righters on strike . Because you did that last time. It interesting but its unsurprising. I think were seeing President Donald Trump return to a lot of the racial play book from 2016 and before he became president because, you know, it has worked for him with a certain segment of the country. You know, bringing back birtherism, bringing back law and order, trying to scare women into thinking minorities are going to ruin their part of the country, these are all things that we have heard from him before, that you would think wouldnt be resurfacing in 2020 but, again, because they worked before, he is ready to have those old fights, even if its in a new day. And those arguments are still resonating with a significant person of the country. We have to be honest about that. Joy, i said to you some can look at this as a revolution but this is an evolution. You need to get on board or get fossilized, particularly because white men are 30 of the population but hold 60 of elected office. So i think this is the entree into a new era. The man who sold america is quite uncomfortable with that. So tell me, i have to tell you, joy, i actually thought a lot about you when this announcement was made because you have made history. You are the first black woman to host a primetime cable news show in this era and on one hand were also elated i remember the jubilation we all felt when msnbc announced your show. There were so many zoom parties and the same thing happened with senator harris. I still relish in that joy and i also think its 2020 and were still talking about firsts so what do you make of this moment in history . No, youre absolutely right. I think about the fact that and i talked a lot about shirley first of all, erin, congratulations on getting that interview. It was an incredible interview. Well done. This is some black girl magic that were see on the screen this morning which i love to revel in. Were still 50 years past when Shirley Chism tried to get this done. And thats something that Kamala Harris referenced when she was running for president. And if you think about the fact that shes only the second black woman to ever be United States senator. Think about that for a second. This country has been around since 1776 and weve only had two black women ever be elected to the United States senate. We have zero black governors we saw what happened when Stacey Abrams made that try in georgia. The lengths to which brian kemp and company were willing to go to keep her out of the governorship. Were still seeing massive voter disenfranchisement, the most aggressive disenfranchisement of voters, particularly black voters and indigenous voters and brown voters that we have seen really since the 1950s and 1960s. Weve gone right back to that era because i think, as you said, the man who sold america understands that what hes doing absolutely works with a certain population. But its not a growing population. Youve said this a lot, tiffany, you wrote about it in your book. What donald trump is based in is the part of the population that isnt growing. Theyre not growing numerically and theyre not growing ideologically. So his only way of winning is to try to reduce the numbers on the other side. So you have to disenfranchise people, dont let them vote. Kill the post office . So hes like military people cant get their mail because i need to reduce the number of people voting because its the only way that he can win. He cant win by addiction. He can only win by subtraction. Absolutely. And we ought to anticipate this. What bothers me, joy, you and i talked about this and people say in a surprising move donald trump is trying to defund the post office. Whats surprising about it . Please tell me, what is surprising about it . He does exactly what he said he was going to do. Go ahead, joy. Did you want to Say Something . I just want to say one thing. Not only is it not surprising, its also not unique to him. If you think about the republican attitude toward the Postal Service, you can go back decades. Theyre the ones who forced the Postal Service to prefund their pensions 175 years ahead. Theyd rather that ups and fedex be the Postal Service. They dont believe in the public commons. If donald trump were alone, he wouldnt be dangerous. He fits right in to Many Republican ideologies. Its just that he says the quiet part out loud. And all this tom foolery predates donald trump. Weve seen these at tutsis atit practices for a long time. Erin, i want to ask you on air, the media landscape is still overwhelmingly white and male. As we commemorate the hundredth anniversary of the 19th amendment, something that bothers me. People always say it gave women the right to vote and i always say, no, it gave white women the right to vote. What advice would the great brilliant erin give as we go into covering this new era of politics . Well, tiffany, thank you for that great context at the top of the show because, you know, representation does matter. I mean, that is the bottom line. I work in a newsroom that is named for the 19th amendment a something i want to reflect the omission for the black women who fought for the franchise just as hard but had to fight even harder because they wouldnt get it in 1920 and wouldnt get it for another four decades. That needs to be acknowledged. The kren ten yecentennial is an for all of us to correct the record. Senator harris referenced howard women who were suffrage, who there have been attempts to erase them in the years since that momentous ratification. We have to tell the truth now about who was not included in suffrage to make sure that the next hundred years are more inclusive, are more representative and tell the truth about who and where we have been as a country. Amen to that, sister. I want to say congratulations to you. You were named as an msnbc contributor. Im so excited to see that happen. Joy, i owe you socially distance m mimosas for coming on this morning. I like mimosas. Well all do it. 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And whatever the reality is that we have to deal with, if he refuses to honor the sacred right of the vote, he wants to undermine the post office for the moment. Well be here in january. Thats most unfortunate. Okay. So despite the fact that he and his wife applied for absentee ballots, donald trump is at war with the u. S. Postal service ahead of election day. This week he explicitly said he opposes emergency funding for the agency because he wants to restrict the number of americans who can vote by mail. According to the washington post, the Postal Service recently warned 46 states and the district of columbia, where i live, that it cannot guarantee all ballots cast by mail for the november election will arrive in time to be counted and even if people follow all of their States Election rules, the pace of Postal Service delivery may disqualify their votes. On friday Kamala Harris was blunt about why she felt this was happening. Why dont they want us to vote . Why are they creating obstacles to us voting . Well, the answer is because when we vote, things change. When we vote, things get better. Joining me now is a woman who knows that all too well, massachusetts congresswoman eyieye i ayanna pressley. You are the first black woman to represent members of congress. As you good to be you. I want to get right into it with you. Youre such a superstar on capitol hill. This is an issue that your office put out a very strong statement on, and a lot of people dont understand the wide, dark shadow this can cast over so many other things. First of all, the post office employees, over 600,000 people. Thats right. And a lot of those people are people of color. And so as youre defunding the post office, because we know how people get upset about defunding things, where is the outrage about this . Where is the outrage about adding to the millions of people who are already unemployed, to the millions of people who are going to join the ranks of homelessness and Food Insecurity and they deliver ppe. My mother gets her meds from the post office these are real life consequences youre in congress, obviously you have a huge charge, but is there anything we the American People can do to protect this democracy and this election process . Well, first and foremost, if you havent already, contact your secretary of state and request a mailin ballot. This is plain and simple Voter Suppression. Its not surprising but its no less shapefmeful. You said theyre at war with the United States Postal Service but that means theyre also at war with the American People. They are threatening the livelihoods of the essential workersthis is a hell of a way to repay some 600,000 essential workers who have been working overtime in the midst of this pandemic putting themselves in harms way. This is an insult on democracy. I received a call from a married couple, theyre both letter carriers, theyre very worried about their livelihood. This is just outright its a modern day jelly bean count ostensib ostensibly. We recently found out the two appointments that the department of Homeland Security may be flawed or illegal, according to the inspector general. Of course the department of Homeland Security is the Oversight Agency for our election system. So when you couple that with kneecapping the post office, what should we anticipate on november 3rd . I said a lot, that i i dont know were going to know who the president is on november 3rd. Are we looking at another bush v. Gore scenario . Before we get there, theres work to do in congress. Were references a letter that i submitted earlier. The postmaster general, he must resign. Hes carrying the water for this corrupt administration and hes corrupt himself. Hes donated millions of dollars to donald trump. In my letter we call for his resignation but he must be subpoenaed to come before the Oversight Committee and to be taken to account for the way hes contributed to dismantling the United States Postal Service. Theres the heros act which the house passed that provided 25 billion in emergency funds for the United States Postal Service. So in the here and now we need to hold this administration accountable. If you havent already requested a ballot from the secretary of state, please do that immediately. Let me just tell our viewers. Dejoy was a longtime Trump Campaign donor. He took office in june. At that time they started removing mail sorting machines. It looks like this is all very intentional. You mentioned the Oversight Committee which you sit on. Whats the likely were going to see him come before the oversight commonwealth ove Oversight Committee in november . When it comes to their culture, corruption is the point. Nothing with them is surprising. Donald trump knows that his failings are on the ballot, that we have lost hundreds of thousands of american lives that were preventable and thats just the most egregious of his criminal negligence and sluggish response and science denies and his failures of leadership. He knows those failures are on the ballot, that the occupant of the white house is on the way to being a temporary one, and as dan rather reminds us cheaters are going to cheat. So the only way that he thinks he can be even remotely successful is to suppress and to undermine our democracy, beginning with the United States Postal Service, which is a war on them and the livelihood of those essential workers and their families and those who rely upon the Critical Services that the Postal Service provides. We have to continue to hold this administration accountable. At every turn, they have sought to obstruct, stonewall and evade justice and accountability. I do think that dejoy should resign and be subpoenaed to come before the Oversight Committee. He saying that democrats are asking for this 25 million, r speaker its his own team asking for the money. Will the post office get funded . They need to be. Listen, im looking to the public. You know, this is as much about public outcry and organizing and mobilizing and applying pressure so that this Gopled Senate and these governors that continue to carry water for this administration, putting the American People in harms way, turning a deaf ear to the needs of our families and our communities, hold him accountable. Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up. There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as theres unrest in our lives and unfortunately theres plenty to go around. I have no retort to that, congresswoman. Thats certainly accurate. Thank you so much for coming on today. Im looking forward to hearing from you all week as we kick off the Democratic National convention. 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Up next, ill talk to some of the activists who helped make this happen. Stay with us. More a. M. Joy after the break. More a. M. Joy after the break. Start your day with secret. Secret stops sweat 3x more than ordinary antiperspirants. With secret, youre unstoppable. No sweat try it and love it or get your money back. Heres your iced coffee america runs on dunkin Vice President biden, you need us, you owe us. Black women are miracle workers. We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965. 2020 is no different. America needs a black woman Vice President. Candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us. America needs a black Woman Supreme Court justice. Remember anita hill . We do. America needs more and a comprehensive black agenda. Just three months ago, seven black women activists and media figures, including myself, called on joe biden to make a series of commitments to black women voters, aka, the back bone of the Democratic Party. And this week joe biden honored one of those commitments when he named senator Kamala Harris as his running mate, making her the first black and asianamerican woman v. P. Nominee in the nations history. But the work doesnt stop there. Joining me now are some of the women who made that call to biden, msnbc contributor britney cunningham, and the amazing comedienne and author, amanda seal, the creator of smart, funny and black. Ladies, my crew, my click is here. Im so happy all of you guys are joining me this morning. I wish it was in person over brunch, but this is the second best thing. Britney, i want to go to you on this first. Last time i went to you, you belted out a tune. So well see if we get a song today. Ill start with you because youre such an out front, outspoken activist on these issues. What does this historic appointment of Kamala Harris mean to you . I think latasha said it yesterday on air that when theres a crack in the ceiling, there is more light to shine on all of us. There are a lot of opinions from the activist community and the Movement Community and they are all valid. I this i that as americans we need to recognize that accountability, not perfection, actually should be a part of all of our politics, whether you are running for office or you are an activist at any particular level, local, state or federal. Most certainly in that oped we all did together, the first thing we asked for was that black woman Vice President , but there was much, much more on the agenda and there is much more work we have to do. Im very hopeful that the Biden Harris Administration will make it a first order of business to repeal the 94 crime bill, to pass the act created by activists to push against the scourge of Police Violence in this country with thoroughness and full capacity, and im also hoping that in the course of the next 80plus days as we march towards this election that continues to be compromised right in front of our very faces, that we make sure that accountability does not translate into the sharing and spreading of misinformation, that in order for it to be effective, it has to be accurate. We recognize how much Kamala Harris has stood up for black families and families of color and how much she has a strong record of fighting against Voter Suppression that were dealing with so much now as we watch the u. S. Postal service be attacked. So theres certainly more work to do. There are more conversations to continue to have and i and many others have had those conversations with senator harris and i know the campaign is looking to expand those. So im excited about the path forward and working to make sure that every single american has their voice heard in this electoral process. Alicia, let me ask you. I was shocked we got pushback when we did that oped and the video. Some people were like dont ask for anything. And we if we dont ask for anything now, then when . You put in a lot of work in this black women agenda. What are the top two things that youd like to see accomplished within the first hundred days from this administration as it relates to the black agenda . Well, thank you, tiffany. These things are so important and youre right, people say we shouldnt push politicians in this moment, that maybe because theres so much at stake, we should accept what were going to get. If we had done that, we likely would be facing an allwhite ticket at this moment. Voters should understand that part of this process is actually making your candidate the best one. So the work does not stop here. Weve got to keep moving. In relation to the first hundred days, i completely agree with britney. I think what is most important here is that the Bidenharris Administration ooh, that sounds good really is focused on making sure we are moving forward comprehensive plan to begin to address some of the scourges that have been impacting black communities for a very long time. And when we do that, we are actually addressing issues that are affecting most americans in this country. Thats right. In particular one of the things i want to see addressed immediately is making sure that we are closing the wage gap. When we conducted the black census, one of the things that we found was that the overwhelming majority of our respondents said that low wages that were not enough to support a family was what was keeping them up at night, closely followed by the lack of Affordable Housing and Affordable Health care. I hope in the first hundred days of this administration were also paying close attention what relief and recovery from covid19 looks like, especially by those who have been attacked by a lack of action and belief in science. Those are two things i would hope in the first hundred days of a Biden Harris Administration they would take on immediately. More than 150,000 people have died now unnecessarily from this virus. And were also saying we dont have enough of a safety people for people to find immediate relief or recover from the impacts this pandemic has had on our community and our economy. Before i get to the administration, we have to win the election first. And so, latasha, you are out there on the ground, youre working in r southern state, youre working in two swing states. You i think are in the best position to talk what the people are saying and what the people feel. You have to love the people to lead the people so you recognized that early on. Tell us what you think needs to happen to make sure joe biden and Kamala Harris win this ticket . One, i think we have to organize. Now people are just not thinking the candidate is not enough. There has to be an agenda. I were in Biggest Health pap dem ek in the last hundred of years and were looking at this assault on the post office does not just affect us as it relates to the lebs, but also people get their medicine from there, their mail, Small Businesses. So we are seeing that citizens are under attack and we got to have a comprehensive, robust agenda that actually puts citizens first. In addition to what i also want to share is im lifting up the women that did this work and i also want to lift up some brothers that have been standing along us as well. I was looking at a lot of folks talk about in the mondale rate when he picked geraldine ferrara. That was actually in response to Jesse Jackson. Reverend Jesse Jackson in 1983 had shirley chim. Chism. He agreed to have a black woman on the ticket. It was only when we were going to the Democratic National convention that mondale in an effort in some ways to break up the Rainbow Coalition decided to put a woman on the ticket. I wanted to say this path to put a black woman on the ticket has been blazed by black men and black women for years. Could not agree more. Some of you know her as tiffany dubois, but you said at this intersection of entertainment and culture and activism and you have a large following of people who look to you for guidance when it comes to activism. What do you want to see from this ticket . And how do we bridge the coast . Youve lived in new york and other places how do we bridge these two coasts and have a through line with what we as a Community Want to see from this ticket . I think all of my sisters here have really enumerated it very clearly. It really ends up being action as a response to access. You know, theyre going to be in this position. If we put them in this position, we want them to take action in regard to what we have requested. I this i theres a lot of folks that are very disenbt chanted but we left high deal station a long time ago we want somebody that we feel like has an actual concept of the fact that their position is for the people, not just for their people. And thats what were looking to see. When we see Kamala Harris, theres a lot of people who feel like shes a cop, shes done this, shes done that. Shes also done other things that are counter to that. What were looking for is there to be a scenario where our activists, our organizers, our people can come to an administration with realistic demands that can have realistic reactions and see those things be brought to the table, not just ignored or scoffed at or simply just told that were crazy, because were not. I told you. Nobody fresher than high clb. Lets thank you all so much for joining me. Coming up, were going to take a closer look at a block of voters who perhaps need to step up some people might think. Ill introduce you to some of them here at the top of the hours. Keep it right here. Top of the hours. Keep it right here your mission stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. And take. It. On. With rinvoq. Rinvoq a oncedaily pill. Can dramatically improve symptoms. Rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. And for some. Rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. Thats rinvoq relief. With ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. 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Its been a long four years since president obama gave that stirring speech to the congressional black caucus. As he said, black voters turned out in a huge, historic way for the first black president , but will obamas righthand man, joe biden, be able to replace that kind of engagement . Support for the democratic candidate is down 13 Percentage Points in 2016 and 13 of black men voted for donald trump. More than three times as many as black women. And keep in mind that black men are consistently 5 of the electorate compared to black women who comprise 7 or 8 of the electorate. Even as black women are finally being acknowledged as the backbone of the Democratic Party, evidenced by joe bidens pick of Kamala Harris, theyre too often looked as a monolith in a way that white voters never are. Can the Democratic Party center black men in the same way . Joining me to talk about this and more is the amazing braden marshall, nfl wide receiver and cofounder of project 365. Steve phillips, host of the podcast democracy in color, and author of the amazing book brown is the new white. If you havent read it, you should. Eli nashal and my friend and nemesis, political contributor for msnbc. Brandon, i want to start with you. A you and i have talked about this offline in the voting process. Yeah. Something weve spoken about, you hear a lot in the media of people talking about College Educated white men, nonCollege Educated white men. Look, black voters disaggregate in the same way but were usually stuck with the moniker of the black vote, an ant equated notion at this point tochlt drill down more on that, when it comes to black men you still dont see the same cute little colloquyalism. When you see people into coal mining country, nascar, who is out here talking to the dudes on the block . I want to ask you, as youve delved into this work, who is talking to the dudes on the block and what are things that the black men want to hear . Issues that maybe people havent been politically engaged but right now theyre politically engaged . What are the issues they care about and how do we bridge this gap . Yeah. So, i think there are people on the block talking to our men of color. So, i dont want to discredit the work that theyve done, and theyve done for years. But i think we need more people like myself, other athletes, other entertainers, other politicians, pounding the pavement in our neighborhoods. Its simple. Theres no representation and theres no education. Theres no one in the office that looks like us. Theres no one on television that looks like us. We need to see ourselves in the system. And i think thats a good place to start. When it talks about when we talk about some of the issues that we may need to address or some of the things that may concern us black men, were looking at not civil rights issues, but just fundamental rights, okay . Education, police brutality, fixing that first before we can even dive into who the candidates are, why they matter, where they stand on certain things and, like for me, this is a process. I told you this offline. Theres so much i dont know about the system, but now were in this interesting time where, you know, the powers at the ballot box. We know that. But its scary approaching it. So i need to know how to register. I need to know what to expect when i go to the ballot box. These are fundamentals. A lot of us are so overwhelmed with the process because we think its bigger than what it is that we dont even get involved. So, it has to start with education and representation. Brandon, i love what you said. I dont know a lot about sports, so i love our conversations, because we can both help each other learn new spaces, so thank you for that. Yes. Steve, i want to ask you, so much of what we faux about politics is filtered through the media. Theres a polling firm, hit strategies, run by terrence woodbury. They have interesting information about what issues black men care about. And so they discovered that men over 50, racism and discrimination is a huge issue, obviously. Health care follows that and then economy and jobs. So, again, we dont see a lot of this conversation happening in mainstream media. I think that frequently filters how candidates and campaigns engage with these electorates. I think thats why you saw so much during the election cycle of people bragging about who could win Trump Supporters and who does great in red states and you have to remind them, hey, youre rung as a democrat. Talk about how you can win red states or blue states. So how do we help these campaign and candidates start to Center People of color but particularly black men and i would say even latinx men. Brown is the new white talks about the changing demographics. Im particularly interested in your thoughts on this. Yeah. And thanks for having me on. I think the significance of him picking kamala. And you even see in the debrief in how they got to the choice, it wasnt a given that he was going to choose a woman of color. So this notion that the most important voters are the white swing voters in the midwest, the white swing voters period is a very strong and fundamental proposition within politics still. So for him to actually take the step to choose a woman of color voldates that he understands that the voters that he needs are people of color. So, for all the obsession the past four years around chasing the White Working Class voter, the trump vote r, it was the black vote that fell off the cliff in 2016. Dropped to almost a 20year low. If africanamericans had come out in a significant way, the way they came out for obama, clinton would have won at that time. That gets into the quality of the agenda, the progressiveness of the agenda and are you worried about offending people who might be more moderate in their politics or are you worried about not inspiring people who want to be motivated and who want to be who are calling for farreaching change . Theres a profound racial wealth gap in this country shall and thats tied to this 401year legacy of slavery and discrimination. So, is the administration, are the candidates acknowledging that . Are they looking at saying we are going to actually examine as we began to discuss during the racial reckoning after George Floyds murder, this is the historic, systemic discrimination piece, began to rectify that. You start to speak to that, that gets at those core underlying economic issues, but that you have to be willing to focus on that grouping and not be so afraid of alienating the Trump Supporters who are never going to come to us. I just want to say i know the black voter turnout was down in 2016. I think any time we talk about that i wrote a whole book about it, that we have to say gopled Voter Suppression and Russian Election interference that specifically targeted black voters, also aided in suppressing the black vote. But i want to go to you, dr. Johnson, because you are a professional political scientist. You have to remind everybody of your phd every 15 seconds. So lets go to you in every once in a while. Every once in a while, yeah. Lets go to you on how to engage this very important demographic. You wrote a piece for the grio, where you talk about the black men on the joe Biden Campaign. How important is it that staffers look like the communities they serve . Ill add on to this that a lot of campaigns and candidates do outreach the black voters but do it on the low low. They dont want people to know theyre appealing to black voters because theyre afraid of alienating others, as steve just talked about. What else needs to help to help center black menace a voting bloc . This is extremely important, tiffany. You and i have talked about t s this, and i talked about this in my piece. We have our nascar dads, soccer moms. We talked about basketball dads, the working class guy. He works at verizon. He may have a college degree. He works at u. P. S. , gets off work, goes, plays ball, may take his kids home from school. Theyve been more like george floyd than christian cooper. And very few campaigns are talking to these men. There are organizations out there, right . The black male voter project in georgia. They reached out and got 50,000 additional black men to vote in the georgia primary this year by mail. There are local activists, local organizers who need to get money. When i speak to black men out there, what these guys tell me is you want to get black men out to vote you have to put black candidates on that they trust at the local level. They may have their skepticism about joe biden. They may have their skepticism about senator harris. Theyre not going to be worried about their local mayor, police chief, the guy that can speak to their issues. I also want to say this this is excellent worg. I like what brandon said about educating and learning more. Lebron james is saying open up the Staples Center as a voting place. There are blackmail validators out there that can open up spaces for black men to vote. And you can see those obama numbers come back in 2020. Lebron james also gave a significant financial contribution to voters of florida who, as you know, are being suppressed through the new poll tax after amendment four which tried to suppress people with felony convictions from voting. They have to pay all their court fees before they can vote. Lebron james put down a ton of money. I cant speak enough about things like that enough. I think this will significantly impact the biden ticket, Kamala Harris as the Vice President ial nominee. When i say 13 of black men voted for trump, black men overwhelmingly vote the democratic ticket. Part of this is gotv, getting out the vote for people who may not be politically engaged. Talk to us about what you think the rest of the Campaign Looks like as it relates to engaging the black men voting bloc . Im so glad that you leveled that there correctly tiffany. We have to remember 8 out of 10 black men are going to vote for the president who show up to vote. Were struggling to capture the ninth black man because two out of three white men are going to vote for the bigot president. The mantle of the white men are going to play like scrubs. The Democratic Party does not make this easy, because what we have, you know, when you look at what an average africanamerican experience is like in this country, it is to be predated upon, right . Not just by american cops or by confederate lawn jockeys, but every white woman in this country knows she can take my job or my freedom or my life with some fake tears and a phone call. So, what is the Democratic Party offering to those men who are worried about this in this moment, right . For too long it has been pull up your pants. Dont seem too angry in public. Like that you talk so eloquently about what lebron james is doing. Is he speaking at the convention . Nah. Nah. Mayor stop and frisk is speaking at the Democratic National convention, right . The Democratic Party does not make it easy for us to get, again, that ninth out of ten black guy to get involved. And i think jason had exactly the right point. You know, i knew this was going to happen. Eli gets so fired up, he freezes. Sorry. You froze. We heard everything you said. So, thank you. Brandon, i actually want to go back to you for a second. Eli did make a good point about what lebron james is doing and how hes not really included at all from the Democratic National convention. And i think there is an interesting intersection between sports and activism, you know. Like weve gone from republicans are plaque issues too to no, were fed up. What are your fellow athletes in the nfl and nba, what does political activism look like in your group . Its nonexistent. We dont participate. We dont talk about it. So, the last couple of months the reason why im so passionate about learning and being transparent and honest is because ive seen professional athletes that i grew up with, that i play with share the same locker room with come out and say, i dont know how to vote. I dont know how to register. There was a big group chat with the university of miami. All their star players that ever came through there. And you have legends, hall of fame players saying what happens when i get to the ballot box . Thats where we need to start. We need to educate people like myself on that process. Like i grew up in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. There was one white family in our neighborhood. We were from the poorest county in all of pennsylvania. We werent talking about voting. We were just trying to survive. Right. Youre trying to tell me about voting . Im just trying to get some food in my stomach. So i really think that for my demographic and people like myself, we need to educate ourselves, because the power is in the ballot box. When you Start Talking about Electoral College and does my vote matter, thats when you lose us. I love what you guys are doing. We need more access to that. It starts with lebron james. It starts with me. It starts with Colin Kaepernick saying hey, guys, not only vote but here is a book to read. Here is a show to watch. Like we need you on this show all the time, doing exactly what youre doing. We need to support you. We need to have your back. We need to have lebron on this show, have colin on this show. That will get the job done for my demographic. If lebron wants to come talk to me i am wide open for that conversation. Thank you for that. Everyone loves you. Of course hes going to come on. Thank you. Thank you for that plug, brandon. I appreciate that. Brandon is going to be back with me later. You brought up something that were talking about. I just want to say quickly that i totally hear what youre saying. We asking men to believe in the system that has harmed them. And we need to tell people were not asking you to believe in the system. Were asking you to believe in you, brother. Stay strong and thank you for that. Steve phillips, eli mustal and my friend, jason johnson, you brought it home for us. Always. Millions of americans. Mitch mcconnell and his pals slowly creep off on vacation. Dont go anywhere. Well get into all of that next. Well get into all of that next. 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Call or go online to find out more. Youll see all walks of life in here, people that never thought that they would ever be in a food bank line. Youll see professional people that had their jobs for 20 years, that have lost it now. And are having to ask for help. My message to washington, d. C. Is stop bickering with each other. Meanwhile, people are starving. People did not get that money on friday. They just got 240 from arizona. Whats that going to do for anybody . On thursday, the senate left capitol hill for recess until september, which means americans will see no Coronavirus Relief package for several more weeks, at least. The senate went on vacation while millions of americans are out of work, facing eviction and unsure of where their next meal will come from. Its a reality thats already overwhelmed food banks and cities across the country. And the senate just made clear that no help is on the way. Joining me now to talk about this and more is mayor Jerry Demings of Orange County, florida, and joe berg and author of america we need to talk. Im so grateful that you guys are joining me for this. So, thank you both for being here. We really wanted to have this conversation because i know what its like to not know where your next meal is coming from and being unable to pay your rent or your mortgage. Sometimes when you watch the conversation, Speaker Pelosi said this, schumer said this and mcconnell said that, none of that matters when youre hungry. None of that matters when you cant pay your rent or feed your children. I wanted to have a conversation that bridges the politics with the humanity of this all. This is a tragedy were seeing. Mayor demings, i want to start with you. Youve been out front on eviction moratoriums. What are you doing in your area to stop people from being homeless . First, let me say good morning to you, tiffany. Good morning. Im very concerned about where we are at this point. Florida is the third most populated state now in the union behind california and texas, and my county, Orange County, is in Central Florida and orlando is the county seat. We have about 1. 4 Million People in the county and prior to covid virus we had 110,000 households that were chronically rent stressed. All of that now has been exacerbated by this pandemic. What we wanted to do here within Orange County was to avert a calamity of issues occurring with individuals being evicted. The governor here within the state of florida has suspended evictions and foreclosures for several months. At the beginning of this month, he changed or modified the executive order that was put in place and now evictions can move forward with the exception of those representing individuals who have been impacted by the virus itself. And so we have a program here within Orange County that is underway that we will begin on august 25th in which tenants and landlords can initiate a process where both of them agree to divert or avoid evictions, and we will pay up to 4,000 of the rent payments in arrears if the landlord and tenant agree to this. And were doing this by having the Orange County Bar Association administer the program and then payments will be made directly to the landlords through the county itself, and we believe that we have about 20 million that we are allocating to this. We believe that we will avert somewhere between 5,000 and 8,000 different households from being evicted. If the landlords voluntary enter into this process, what they will agree to is that they will not seek the opportunity to evict these individuals through december 31st of this year. Yeah, you know, this is touchy, so i have to be delicate with how i say this. I also have friends who own property and have tenants and everybody is in nobody is wealthy. Everybody is in a situation here that they have bills to pay. They have mortgages to pay and some of those people say, yeah, i need them to run me my coins because i have a mortgage company, particularly black and brown people who dont grow up with a trust fund. When we grow up we often get a payroll because were taking care of parents and kids and sometimes at the same time. The work youre doing is great. Governor desantis had extended the moratorium until september 1st but i dont know how that works for people who are getting reduced support for the federal government. This is one of those situations where the local government has to step up in ways that a lot of cities are stretched thin. Were showing, joel, b roll of the food lines. I want to tell you, i was visiting my mother, who lives in silver spring, maryland. I saw this long line, and it was, you know, a lot of cars, a lot of people. They were decent cars, toyota camrys, honda civics. Why are so many people in this line . Are they giving away beyonce tickets . Whats going on here . It was a food line. It was a food line. These people were getting food. And it was heartbreaking to see. It was stunning to see. So, something that a lot of people have said to me online and even in person, you know, you keep saying Food Insecurity. You need to call it what it is. Its hunger. But we have to teach people its not always hunger. Sometimes it is just Food Insecurity, that you dont know where your next meal is coming from. At the last minute somebody may swoop in and feed you but 37 million americans were estimated to be food insecure in 2019. That was precoronavirus. What were seeing now, its incomprehensible. So, joel, is there any hope you can offer this morning to the millions of people . Millions of people who are suffering and they dont follow the minutia of politics . They expect that the government will step up when they need to. What can we say to these people . My whole family is included in this. What hope can we offer people . What hope, what help can we offer to people . We can offer the hope that a Peoples Movement will push the Republican Senate to pass the heros act, which passed with very significant food aid through the democraticcontrolled house of representatives 90 days ago. I know silver springs, maryland, well. Its a suburb of washington, d. C. I lived there for a decade in the 90s and montgomery county, where its located, is a microcosm of the United States. In some respects its one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, like potomac, maryland. Silver springs, even before this crisis, had a lot of working poor people who just didnt earn enough to feed their families. And now that has skyrocketed with schools being closed and no more school meals, Senior Centers being closed, with no more Senior Center meals, a huge spike in unemployment. And so while Mitch Mcconnell has taken a vacation and while the president has gone on repeated golfing trips, hunger doesnt take a vacation. Hunger doesnt take golf trips. While we want to press the democrats to come through on this and really be forceful, and i watched your previous segment very carefully and know that the democrats need to deliver not just for people of color, who are struggle iing against pover but also White Working Class people in swing states who are among the poorest people in america in swing states. But we also have to say in a state like kentucky. A quarter of the people are food insecure. Same for florida now. That means they cant afford enough food. And even if they end up getting food, theyre still suffering. The kids know theres disruption in their household, they do less well in their school. It would provide 133 million in food aid to kentucky and over 700 million of food aid to florida. So, people should stand up, push their senators, republican senators to pass this food aid. They can contact organizations like ours at hungerfree america, hungerfreeamerica. Org. If they need help we have a comprehensive guide of where we can get help and we also want to highlight snap, the food stamps program, wic program and all those Government Programs because they really do dwarf the charities. Thank you for that. You highlighted kentucky. I hope the entire state is saying mitch better have my money because he fled the senate and is back home. And this is something that they can solve. Thank you for bringing up poor and disenfranchised white voters, often they align with people of color but we dont vote the same. You brought the humanity to our conversation and i hope our viewers appreciate that. 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This new ad has something to say about that. This is the new hoax. Within a couple of days its going to be down to close to zero. A lot of people think it goes away in april with the heat. One day its like a miracle, it will disappear. The hope is that by july the country is rocking again. Slow the testing down, please. Because we have more tests we have more cases which is a pandemic, which is disappearing. Its going to disappear. All right. Back with me, nfl wide receiver brandon marshall, the brilliant jamel hill, staff writer at the atlantic and host of jamel hill is unbothered. I hear that. Host of the espn podcast the right time with bemonte jones. Thank you for being with me. Hbcu all day. Thank you for joining me this morning. I have to confess, i love talking about this aspect of sports, but as brandon and all of you guys know, i dont know a lot about the mechanics of it. But when we get to the social aspect and the political aspect of sports, im fascinated. Jamel, i have to start with you. You tweeted out something that spoke with me and you said i love to see these young black College Athletes basically im paraphrasing you, but get a sense of their agency and power and demand how the future of their lives and livelihoods look. What do you make of this landscape now where some we have to say some of these kids want to play. Theyre trying to make it to the n nfl. And the other people are saying, whoa, hold up, slim. Were not ready to get back on the field and risk our lives. This exposes the long con that the ncaa has been running for a long time. Theyve been around this sham called amateurism that is being expose bid this pandemic. Because they have so wielded themselves to this sham that they are in a situation where they dont want to be exposed by the fact that theyre treating these kids like employees, even though they have made an entire economy off of their free labor. And what i love to see, and bo has talked about this and reported on this as well. When you see playing in the pac12, big 10, because this free economy has been built, the agenda of getting them to play football is very corrupted. You cant trust the people who have so much money at stake, billions of dollars, millions of dollars, six and sevenfigure salaries. You cant trust them to necessarily do the right thing. That doesnt mean that everybody involved in College Football is evil. What that does mean is that my job depends on you playing football, im going to do whatever i need to do to make sure you play football. And sometimes i may either ignore certain protocols. I may not follow them as closely, or i may jeopardize peoples lives just to get this economy going. The other part of this is that regular students are also caught up in this con because they cant very well have a bunch of College Athletes or College Football players, in particular, on campus and not have anybody else, because people start to ask questions. Thats how an employee is treated. Right. Now they have to force all these students to go back, even though theres no clear vision and no clear plan in a lot of places. And why . We already know the students, look, theyre going to party. Theyre college students. Theyre going to be a little lax and jeopardizing your College Football population because theyre in the mix with the same students. So, its just an allout catastrop catastrophe. At a National Level when you do not have a cohesive plan, everything is just run amuck. And its not only how employees are treated. Thats how essential employees are treated. Correct. Clearly view them as essential employees. I want to ask you, because jemele makes a really good point. Governance of College Football is decentralized and were seeing the same thing play out in a National Scale in our politics. Theres no centralized response to this virus. So, what are these different conferences to do . I mean, is there a way that it can be centralized . This is being asked by somebody who doesnt even understand all the rules of all the conferences. Is there a way you can put everybody in one under one umbrella of a set of rules . Well, if youre going to do that, you would have to create a whole bunch of different umbrellas. Ive been less critical of the ncaa for not having a centralized response because theres a big financial difference between a program that seats 100,000 people and a program that seats 40,000 people. You have that kind of variance within all of these programs. The underrated discussion about this is testing costs money and the real question to be asked is who can and cannot afford this. Ohio states, yeah, theyre testing us all the time. Stanford, theyll be saying the same thing. The concerns started to come up when we talked to players at other schools and they werent be tested the same way. Players have said is the swab actually going to be tested . Its not just to get the money. Its to pay the bills, right . Theyve spent all the money they had, because they dont have to spend the money on the players. What can the conferences do . I dont have a great answer on that. I find it fascinating that whoever talked to the big 10 and pac12 must have come in a hell of a story because they heard it and were like, yep, were not going to do this. The other three conferences, apparently no one has come in with the same talk for them. Are they going doctor shopping . Financial stakes are so high, i agree, its hard to trust these schools. For College Sports generally we have a tendency to trust the schools and whatever they say. This is a horrible time to live like that. I find it interesting to find that some of these schools cant afford testing when were talking about a billion dollar industry. College football is a billion dollar industry. You know, i wonder how that works and if there cant be a centralized governance of this space, certainly theres not a centralized financial system, though i wish there were. Brandon, i want to talk to you. You played College Football. This is something thats near and dear to your heart, i imagine. I actually do feel really bad for the kids who want to play, these students who work their entire lives and their dream is to go into the nfl, and the world has stopped. Covid19 has brought the world to heel. Are their chances over if they have to sit out a year or two . Is it possible they can eventually make it into the nfl . And do you think that they should be playing or not playing . Where do you stand on this . Yeah. I mean, i think we should feel bad. I think that their chances could be over. You know, in april on the show i am athlete podcast, it was myself, channing crowder, reggie wayne and fred taylor, and we reacted to college the College Program saying, you know, what theyre going to do and how theyre going to return to play. And my first reaction on the show was to say, you know, if these kids if youre not asking the students to come back, then you cant ask the student athletes to come back. You cant do it. Now it brings back this topic of the players unionizing, and were talking about this amateur program versus pro program. But then i got off the show and i was like, why did i say that . The reason why is because i go back to 2005, when i was actually going into my senior year. My mom was just evicted. My father was sleeping on my floor in my dormitory. My 16yearold sister just had a newborn. My brother was at fau playing basketball and we talk about being amateur and pro. And he couldnt afford to even get a meal, all right . And im sitting here like, you know, why . Im torn because what it did for my family. Football changed my like generations in my family. I was able to use this platform, use this opportunity to not only feed my family but also change the mentality in how we approach this life and how we approach certain things. So i think this is a tough spot to be in. As a parent, as an adult thats maturer now, you know, im like, we cant play. We understand that this is a Global Pandemic and we understand, you know, whats going on. But if youre asking me in 2005 what to do, im playing. And im playing for those reasons that i just talked about. It wasnt about just ball. It was about changing not only my family but the people in my neighborhood. We employed 40 people for the past 13 years. Weve implemented programs, given back millions of dollars and i use that as an example, not to brag or boast, but to say playing football, making it to the nfl gave me an opportunity to change larmer avenue. I hear you because i think thats what a lot of people dont understand, particularly these predominantly white owners or white politicians who have all these strong opinions about what happens in College Football or even the nfl. A lot of people, this is the first time that you have an income and that youre not food insecure. Everybody wants to say, mama, i made it. Buy your parents a house and help your family. I think thats a point we dont focus on enough. Jemele, let me ask you. I worked in labor activeism fora while. Whats the likelihood well see these athletes become unionized . Is that even a possibility . Its not a possibility, or a very unlikely one. That was something that was attempted by some athletes at northwestern. Unfortunately, it didnt work out. But i think what we may see that comes out of this is that i think theres a possibility that this system may finally break because of the way that athletes are understanding their value. Theyre understanding what they bring to this system. And its just really unfortunate to see because i consider this all to be so horribly unethical, based upon what brandon is talking about. How for a lot of these athletes, they dont have a choice. Right. You termed them correctly calling them essential workers. A lot of them are the first had their families to go to college. Even though they have permission to opt out if they want to, understand that comes with a lot of fine print. A lot of these guys know if they opt out they may not get their spot back. A lot of these schools do not have fouryear scholarships. They have oneyear renewables. Their terms of employment, because thats what it is, are up whether its a pandemic or not. Those are decisions made every single year. Theres a lot of pressure on them to play. Its not just simply they love the game. They have to factor in family, finances and many other things. Unfortunately, i dont think the systems are in place for them to actually unionize. Lets think about this really quickly, brandon. We have like ten seconds left. Go ahead. I didnt have a place to go back to. Like i said, my mom was evicted. The dormitory was a place where i can sleep. And another interesting thing is, i was actually hungry on campus, on the campus at the university of Central Florida. Wow that cafeteria gave us three meals but youre asking me to exert all this energy for five, six hours. Theres so much work to be done on this front. Thank you for that. I should say, brandon, youre exceptional. You were part of a small percentage of people who get to go to the nfl. For a lot of players they never make it. Are they supposed to get sick and then leave college with nothing . This is a complicated discussion. Im so thankful for the three of you for having this conversation with me. Im going to have to figure out a way we can talk offline weekly. I want to be part of real sports conversations. I want to talk about the games but yall will have to teach me about it. I texted brandon when i watched the last dance, did you know that scottie pipin is staying with the bulls . Well have to chat more. Bomani jones, jemele hill, and branden marshall, thank you so much. Stick to sports on vice tv. I will definitely be watching. Coming up at the top of the hour on weekends with alex witt a closer look at the impact that Kamala Harris is already having on the Biden Campaign and how she will match up against Vice President pence at the debate. I cant wait to see what she has to say. Tense moment is happening in the state where i grew up. Georgia Confederate Monument Stone Mountain. Details coming up. You dont want to miss this. You dont want to miss this. U a. Universal orlando resort. Buy now and get two days free at the parks. Restrictions apply. Essential for sewing, but maybe not needles. 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I think we have to be very clear, that the very people that donald trump calls terrorists are actually the folks who showed up at Stone Mountain to protect people, to make sure that no violence was done, and to actually fight back against White Supremacy. Stone mountain is a monument to the confederacy and to White Supremacy that shouldnt just be closed today, it should be closed permanently. We have to understand what were seeing in these scenes right now as part of the reason why Confederate Monuments have to be torn down and relegated to history exclusively, because they are not inanimate objects, tiffany. They are absolutely active shrines of hatred and supremacy. The three percenters continue to gather at these shrines and worship their religion of hate and organize in violence. Stone mountain is a frighteningly clear example of this and frankly its the confederate mt. Rushmore, which is already a problem site. This is all the more reason these sites need to be shut down because they continue to incite hatred and violence on the part of the white supremacists. I spent many of july 4th holidays at Stone Mountain. And it is very deeply steeped in the confederacy. I think so many people dont know the history, which is why its so important. People get uncomfortable when you speak your truth, but luckily, we have people like us, who are comfortable making people uncomfortable. Because we have to acknowledge thats right. The ugly history of this country that people are so married to. So, as we see these the scene here of this faceoff, youre somebody who actively protested before, certainly around the death of michael brown. What do you say to the protesters who show up to do this . Theyre essentially putting themselves in harms way in the name of protecting people. Donald trump has not only called them terrorists, but he has called them people who hate the country. What advice do you give these protesters who are trying to show up just to be helpful and keep the peace . Well, i say keep showing up. These are organizations and groups that are deeply practiced and deeply disciplined in the act of resistance. They know what theyre doing, especially in the place that they call home. And we have to be very clear here, that just like donald trump has put many lives in danger and could have prevented some of the 160,000 deaths that we faced from the pandemic, he also is responsible for putting people in danger in the face of White Supremacy. Im so sorry, were way over. We have to go. Thank you so much, brittany, for coming back. Thats our show today. Time flies when youre trending. I see you, twitter. Thanks for watching. I will be back tomorrow morning at 10 00 a. M. Eastern. For now, stay tuned for my friend, alex witt. R my friend, alex witt. The largest 5g network. Awardwinning customer satisfaction. Or insanely great value. 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