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Their holiday recess, they might get a chance to speak with the man who orchestrated this entire ukraine fiasco. Here is what donald trump told reporters yesterday about Rudy Giulianis recent trip to ukraine. Well, i just know he came back from some place and hes going to make a report, i think, to the attorney general and to congress. He says he has a lot of good information. I have not spoken to him about that information. But rudy, as you know, has been one of the great crime fighters of the last 50 years. And he did get back from europe just recently, and i know he has not told me what hes found, but i think he wants to go before congress and say, and also to the attorney general and to the department of justice. I hear hes found plenty. So to review, Trumps White House lawyers are a no on participating in his defense, but this guy, maybe a yes. There he is. With whatever mad hatry hes been able to scare up in ukraine. Perfect. As the House Judiciary Committee holds its hearing tomorrow, the longawaited inspector generals report on the origins of the russia investigation is expected to be released. Now this is the same report that donald trump has been saying all year will prove that the obama deep state was out to get him while he was running for president. A Conspiracy Theory that not just trump but his House Republican defense squad and his attorney general william barr all believe in. That the Trump Campaign was illegally spied on by the Intelligence Community and that, therefore, the entire Mueller Report, the whole russia attacked our election thing, all of that was a fraud. But the Washington Post is reporting that things arent going to play out as trump and barr and other republicans had hoped when the inspector generals report drops. And that the man barr handpicked to try and find the secret evidence found nothing. Zero, to support the Conspiracy Theory that the russia case was all a setup. Joining me, democratic congressman Eric Swalwell, a member of the house intelligence and judicial committees. Youre on both of the relevant committees. Thanks for being here. Of course. Good morning, joy. Lets start with Rudy Giuliani. Here is what he texted back to nbc reporter Kristen Welker after the text that she texted him about this trip that he made to ukraine. He texted back, no, i will reveal it when im ready, and if this doesnt shake up the swamp and get us to cut out the years of corruption, i might then agree with those who say its hopeless. Thats a lot of word salad, but the question then becomes, is it likely that we might see that guy as the only person testifying on Donald Trumps behalf during the hearing tomorrow . Well, we have given them an opportunity to send lawyers to defend the president. Theyve turned all of those opportunities down, joy. Weve also subpoenaed Rudy Giulianis documents, and hes refused to cooperate to turn over any documents. But two things about Rudy Giuliani. First, the evidence is overwhelming he is Donald Trumps lawyer. The ukrainians understood that he was acting on Donald Trumps behalf. The agents of the president , the three amigos, were told by the president he was acting on his behalf and donald trump even told president zelensky on the july 25 call that rudy is my lawyer. So anything that giuliani does, you can attribute to president trump. You cannot throw him under the bus. But second, the fact that giuliani is in ukraine or just coming back from ukraine shows the clear and present danger this president poses. This is not like watergate where the breakin happened years before and they were investigating that and the coverup. This threat is ongoing right now. They continue to try and invite foreigners to participate in our investigation in our election which is why we have to move so expeditiously with this impeachment inquiry. Youre a former prosecutor. Would you recommend Congress Giving immunity to Rudolph Giuliani to get him to testify . He seems to be the one that knows the most, other than donald trump, about what he was doing. I would recommend that Rudy Giuliani if he has exculpatory evidence come forward. Otherwise we can conclude he has nothing that could show innocence for the president. So ill leave that to the those who make that decision, but the way that the American People will view this is that if the president has people or documents that can clear him, he would send them. If he doesnt, we should conclude that that is a powerful consciousness of guilt on the president s behalf. Lets talk about the timing here. The white house, this is the White House Position clears the way for this is the New York Times. The White House Position on not participating clears the way for House Committees to debate and approve impeachment articles as soon as next week. That would allow a vote by the full house by september 20th. Its also the day that funding for the government expires. Thats an interesting set of concurrent timing. And we know now that the judiciary report, which ive started to read this morning, it includes sections on treason, sections on bribery, abuse of power and betrayal of his oath of office and corruption. That seems to be the five articles. Is that your expectation that those are going to be the five articles of impeachment . So thats his exposure. Weve tried to move expeditiously but fairly and responsibly. By having the constitutional scholars come in, they laid out the president s full exposure based on the facts they reviewed from the Intelligence Committee investigation. Now our job is to decide just what that means for specific articles. But i can promise you the president s prior conduct as it relates to russia and obstructing the russia investigation will certainly be included to show the pattern of conduct here. So whether thats its own article or not, it will show that this president in the past has invited Foreign Governments to interfere and when investigations take place, he does all he can to obstruct. And thats what hes done in this case. There have been the counternarrative that we heard from Jonathan Turley during the house judiciary hearing is that what you guys really ought to do is go back and get more primary evidence. We saw a lot of evidence in the adam schiffled hearings but that judiciary should also call witnesses and go to court, if necessary, at least according to that side of the argument to try to make those witnesses testify. Were talking about the white House Counsel don mcgahn, john bolton. Do you think it would be wise for the House Judiciary Committee before proceeding down this road to try to make those people testify and to get more primary evidence . No, under Jonathan Turleys theory we should let the building burn and then call the fire department. This is an ongoing threat. The president s lawyer is over in ukraine right now asking Foreign Governments to interfere in our elections. And, joy, the evidence that weve put forward, the 300 pages that have 12 different witnesses who testified publicly, thats powerful evidence that the president abused his office to ask a Foreign Government to cheat in our election. Yes, of course, wed love to have more witnesses but if that means going for months or even a year in the court as the president obstructs and delays, we cant afford to allow an illegitimate election to take place. And just one other point. Never has the president or his lawyer said if you take me all the way to the courts and i lose, i will abide by the court decision. So we dont even have an honest broker here when dealing with the white house. The inspector generals report is expected to come out this week, and it will show from what weve learned from the reporting that theres nothing to this mad Conspiracy Theory that the Trump Campaign in 2016 was spied on by the obama administrations intelligence the obamaled intelligence services. That they were spied on and that the whole Mueller Report thing was a sham. Thats going to be disproven now. One of the main people who has put that theory forward is devon nunes. The Ranking Member on the Intelligence Committee on which you serve. Do you think he should be allowed to participate as an interlock ter any further now that we know he was on the phone with one of the men, lev parnas, who was involved in the conspiracy . That we know he was on the phone with him. He cant seem to remember it. And should he be forced to testify about what his involvement was because he seems to have been both on the questioner side and the participant side. Joy, hes so insignificant. And lets just say thank god hes no longer a chairman. The American People saw what he had done in 2018 with the russia investigation and what others did to obstruct and they went to the polls and said we Want Better Health care, better jobs and better accountability of the administration. And now were in the majority. Now as to devin nunes, if he has to answer to other committees in this congress, that may take place. Were mostly you mean an ethics investigation . Thats outside of my hands, but, sure, if he was a conspirator with the president as he sought to have the ukrainians involve themselves, he may have other issues. But were focused on the president , joy, because at the end of the day, the president is the one who was misusing american taxpayer dollars for his own personal benefit, and we want the American People to stay focused on his conduct rather than anyone elses. Eric swalwell, congressman Eric Swalwell, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks, joy. Joining me now, simon rosenberg, the president of a think tank ndn, and it was also a Senior Adviser to the dccc in 2017 and 2018. Thank you for being here. Great to be here. Thank you very much. You have written a lot about what you think that congress ought to be doing as they proceed down this road on impeachment. I want to read a little bit. And this is element 8 for my producers. Congress should consider breaking down the impeachment process into three separate tracks focusing on the criminal, the coconspirators and National Security review. How would that play out knowing that were dealing with a december 20 sort of soft deadline . Well, i think part of what im laying out here is this has gotten so big and so hard to manage on the tight deadline that congress is trying to move on. As Eric Swalwell said, there is an urgency, right, to prosecute this. And i think we have to break it into three pieces to allow this to be aired out in the way the American People deserve. First as we focus on the crimes. You heard a lot about that from congressman swalwell a few minutes ago. The president broke election laws and cheated in 2016 and got caught. He then obstructed in 2017, 2018. Cheated in 2019. Got caught. He obstructed again. Theres a pattern. Weve got to really help the American People understand the severity of what were dealing with. Second, though is that part of what happened is that there were dozens of people involved in this conspiracy to break American Election laws, to commit bribery and extort the ukrainian government. They need to be brought to justice, too. We cant just look the other way. I think a process has to be put into place to bring the coc coconspiratcoco coconspirators pence and barr and everyone else involved in this. And theres a process in place that we can already build on which is fdny and fbi have started a criminal investigation. Thats what the parnas and fruman arrests have been about. They can push that whole process into the sdny and fbi. Third, i think we need a security review. Weve got to look at the damage thats been done to our standing in the world, to the National Security of the United States, by the president s selfdealing, by his putting his own interests and the interests of other countriy ies before the United States. Were a weakened power because of this president. We need to come to grips with this piece of whats happened and not view this as something separate. Its core to the transactions thats taken place. You mentioned Vice President mike pence. Lets listen to him on fox news saying he doesnt even think donald trump is going to be impeached. Yep. I know that Speaker Pelosi has announced articles of impeachment, but i have to tell you, i served in the congress for 12 years. And i dont think its a foregone conclusion. Interesting. That the democrats will be able to get the votes to pass articles of impeachment because i hear from people all over the country. The support for this president , the progress that weve made, rebuilding our military, reviving this economy. We know pence was involved in trying to push whatever the deal was and what they were trying to get out of the president of ukraine. He was involved in it. You think he should be investigated. And what do you think of his comments about it wont happen. Impeachment wont happen . Hes just right now on friday, congressman schiff sent a letter to the Vice President s Office Asking him to release some of the testimony from one of his own aides that testified. Hes direct theyre all involved. What did sondland say . Everybody knew. This was a vast conspiracy of the entire Senior Leadership of the government to use the government to advance the political interests of donald trump and the Republican Party. Thats illegal, right . Thats cheating in the elections, and they all f participated in it. Congress has to focus on the president , but we can do more than one thing at a time, right . There can be other parallel tracks established. And for me, the most important is this kind of broad strategic strategy review that i think needs to happen. The damage thats been done to our standing in the world, to our National Security, to the questions that still remain about russias influence over this administration, these are worldaltering things. Well be living in a different National Security environment, a different set of Geopolitical Realities for the next generation of our lives because of Donald Trumps presidency. Lets do a report on that. Bring it to the American People in the summer and fall so that they have that information to be able to make up their mind in the elections in 2020. Do you think that william barr would ever allow any of these people to be investigated . Hes named on that call, too, on july 25th. He should have recused himself from any involvement. Its outrageous that hasnt happened. What we do know is that sdny and the fbi have opened up a criminal investigation into the ukraine affair. I think this is lost sometimes in the media that theres actually a parallel criminal track thats already begun. And i think that what my argument is is that congress should set up some other mechanism to refer for prosecution if they deem necessary, if looking at the evidence, those that participated in this corrupt scheme. We cant just get the president and look at all the and look the other way at all the wrongdoing that happened. That would be inconsistent with how our democracy operates. Simon rosenberg, appreciate you being here. Coming up president ial candidate cory booker will weigh in on the race, impeachment and so much more. Keep it right here. Before we talk about taxsmart investing, whats new . Well, audreys expecting. 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As billionaire 2020 democratic candidate Michael Bloomberg claims he shouldnt be blamed for the lack of diversity in the race, its worth noting he and fellow Billionaire Tom Steyer are spending dramatically more in ad spending. Theyve spent or reserved millions more than the top four top polling Democratic Candidates in the race combined. The most political Morning Consult poll shows that bloomberg is already at fifth place. Joining me now, democratic president ial candidate, senator cory booker. Good morning. Good morning. Good to be on with you, joy. Great to have you on. Lets talk about this spending situation. And you see particularly well spoken this morning. Its wonderful that you are able to be here. Well both be well spoken just to be exciting for the people. Bloomberg is spending yes. Articulate and clean. Articulate and clean and well spoken. Look how we achieved that . Bloomberg is spending 58. 8 million. Tom steyer is spending 45 million. Whats and all combined, the rest of you all are spending 28 million combined. Whats wrong with that, in your opinion, or is there anything wrong with those guys being able to spend that much money on the race . Well, one of the biggest problems, and you hear it on the Campaign Field from all Democratic Candidates is the problem of corruption of money and politics. We have a really, really bad problem. We need to have publicly financed elections. A lot of good solutions. The Democratic Party is designing a system that benefits big money. And thats a problem. When you have a field of democrats that is winnowing down to the exclusion of the kind of diversity that we need in a one of the particular reasons for that is because folks dont have money to spend. Kamalas campaign was in a very eerily Similar Campaign point that john kerrys was. Both around 4 in the polls. Both had to pull their campaigns from other states and fold them into iowa. Both had some internal challenges. You know what kerry did . He lent himself 5 million and went on to make it. Kamala came up short financially. Kerry finished number one here in iowa and went on to get the nomination. We should not have a system designed that benefits folks who can write themselves a check. We should have a system designed that lets the voters, lets iowa have a say. Iowans didnt get to choose whether kamala was in the campaign. Iowans cant choose whether im on the debate stage or not. Youve now had the entire Democratic Party leadership in New Hampshire say this is ridiculous. Cory booker should be on the stage. You have local media in iowa saying, if pollsters call you, answer the phone and choose cory booker because we deserve to have him on that stage. Its a frustrating reality. But im happy to continue the fight here in iowa to see a surge for us right now and online fundraising, as well as support here in iowa. So were going to keep fighting forward but Democratic Party needs to have a conversation. Are we going to play into big money politics, or are we going to do something to make the system more fair. Thanks for reminding folks about the 04 situation. John kerrys campaign seemed to be on sort of last rites and then he was able to buy his way back in. And a lot of people dont understand Kamala Harris essentially would have had to go into debt to stay in and decided to get out. Because of money. But the other concern people are talking about, the Washington Post has a piece out about the concerns of the other campaigns regarding the kind of money that a bloomberg or steyer can put in saying rival campaigns worry about the creeping possibility that he finds a way to catch fire in the early states. And the early states deliver no frontrunner or that he wins enough delegates to deny anyone a majority getting him a brokering role in choosing the nominee before the convention and his ability to dominate air waves. For you, and you raised a little bit of money off of the idea that people who were really upset theres no more africanamerican candidate, woman candidate, are now looking at the other candidates of color a second time. Are you guys running out of ad inventory to be able to buy . With steyer and bloomberg able to buy it all up, can you even get ad time . First of all, sincerely, God Bless America because since the last debate until now weve had our best fundraising rush of our campaign as were breaking records for our campaign for individual online contributions. People going to cory booker. Com and saying enough is enough. We want you in the race. And were finding ways to do now online ads. Trying to do the things. Im here in iowa and its wall to wall steyer and bloomberg. Were finding ways to get online ads and radio ads to begin to do the things theyre doing to juice up their polling numbers. We still have time to make it onto the stage. Were still hoping people will continue to help us. And here on the ground in iowa, iowans who are some of the nicest people in the nation, people are we have an overflow crowd now. People with a little chip on their shoulder now saying youre the only one talking about the themes that ultimately we need, one of which is this understanding to win in the next election, we had massive dropufs between 2012 and 2016 in africanamerican voting. And as a result of that, we lost three states michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania by 77,000 votes. In milwaukee alone, about a 70,000vote dropoff of africanamerican voters. Whoever the next candidate is, they better have an authentic connection with africanamerican communities. Not to make mistakes that shouldnt need to be explained to you like describing africanamerican men as well spoken. They should be able to inspire a turnout to get back the white house but weve got to win arizona. Weve got to win a senate seat in north carolina, the two up in georgia, South Carolina, and the only way we win them is to get record black turnouts. And so i see this in iowa, which is the state that sent the first black man on the trajectory to win the white house. People understanding that the energy, the enthusiasm, that i generate in Diverse Communities is something well need at the top of our ticket to help all down ballots, for us to take back the white house and the United States senate. One of the challenges that Kamala Harris, senator harris had was there was a lot of challenge to her criminal justice background from a lot of young progressives who were suspicious of her because shes a prosecutor. But you have joe biden who wrote the crime bill, senator Bernie Sanders who has voted for the crime bill. You yourself challenges in newark in terms of your Police Department and a lot of people saying that should be skrut inized more. Obviously mayor Pete Buttigieg has a lot of issues in terms of the police in south bend. Do you see the way senator harris suffered. Should you go out and talk about the policing situation in the city where you were a former mayor and get ahead of that . Get ahead of it . Weve been talking about this since i was mayor. We invited the aclu into my office and wrote National Standard setting accountability for our local police. We created the first ever in new Jersey Office of reentry to help our folks. We invited in some of the best researchers on empowering communities by reducing Police Interactions and actually creating deeper trust. So im proud of our record. We had to work really hard. The Justice Department came in, showed us the data, and now as a result, as a senator, ive written the legislation to make sure that we create more Police Accountability and less Police Brutality in the shooting of unarmed men. My record speaks for itself from the time i was mayor to being a proactive person. This is what africanamericans want. As a guy thats a specialist on black voters because ive been one all my life, people feel betrayed by the Democratic Party. They are connected with the struggles of our communities, and people who can demonstrate when they did run a big Police Department, what they were willing to do to learn and grow those issues. I know thats what i can speak to and inspire the support i have in new jersey of the africanamerican community. Still on this issue of money and fundraising, theres been a back and forth between mayor buttigieg and elizabeth warren, about disclosure, where they are fundraising and getting their money from. Mayor buttigieg, will you consider opening any of those fundraisers up . Yeah, so the team is working on ideas and i invite you to stay tuned. Hopefully well have more to share in a few days. Is there anything personally holding you back from opening up these fundraisers . Just want to make sure we do it we approach this, that we do it in the right way. Again, the team is working through options. Well invite you to stay tuned in the coming days. If Pete Buttigieg opens up those fund raisers, will you release the tax returns this is about whats going on right now. He should open up his fundraisers. He should release who he is bundling from him and make clear who is on his finance team. This is not about what happened 15 years ago or 20 years ago. Its about the conflicts its creating right now. I understand. No, the point is whats happening right now and thats what im going to keep pushing him on. We didnt have it here but there was another video going all over twitter of mayor buttigieg refusing to really answer the question of whether or not hes going to open up his fundraisers and try to get out of the nda. Theres a lot of questions about whether he should just let the press into his fundraisers and whether senator warren should go back and give out her tax returns from 2008. Do you think your two rivals should do fuller disclosure about where theyre getting their money, their fundraising . All of us should answer the tough questions coming from the media. All of us, especially trying to build trust. Let me make this point. If Democratic Candidates, all were doing is talking about each other, look, i have seen a bad cycle. And we lost an election in 2016 because we werent united as a party. Im happy that the press is involved and engaged because theyll ask the tough questions and we should have to answer them. We as democrats shouldnt spend all our time trying to tear each other down. We need a nominee that can unite this party. Weve only got one shot to make donald trump a oneshot president. I want all my supporters to be enthusiastic and eager to support whoever the nominee is. I want to make sure we do not repeat the mistakes of 2016 where we have torn down each other so much that its hard to build the necessary coalitions to then go on and beat and win in the general election. Senator cory booker. Were out of time. Thank you for being here. Have a great day. Thank you for having me. Coming up, ill bring you new details on how vulnerable the 2020 election is to foreign influence. Youll only see it here on a. M. Joy. little boy hes coming makeawish volunteer ok, hes coming, cmon cmon. Here we go. little santa somali. 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That perception of senator Kamala Harris as a cop who has a prosecutor locked up a lot of people who look like me, which the daily shows roy wood jr. Brought out in that clip was not a joke. That idea stuck to senator harris throughout the campaign, unlike other candidates who have less than stellar records on criminal justice reform. And it was reinforced most aggressively on social media. A new report examines how powerful these narratives can be in shaping peoples political views. Joining me is sherine mitchell which put together the report. Good morning. Thank you for having me. Of course. The New York Times has an article that talks about this is a past article. Russian 2016 influence operation targeted africanamericans on social media. That was from december, from last december, december of last year. Your report talks about the same thing, the specific targeting of africanamericans and so talk a little bit about what you found and what this report brings forward. Theres two things. One is we also have this just a month or two ago where the senate Intelligence Committee has put out their report, too, a year later, actually saying that there is no other group that was targeted more than africanamericans. And that is still happening now and it has not changed. The key parts of what our report is talking about that were looking at a new age called digital voter suppression. This is the way were now looking at not only who we are in terms of being targeted as voters but how thats being used throughout the election cycle. Kamala would be a great example of someone who started as early as january when we started looking at her campaign and targeted attacks online to now her being out of the race. And how even in the midst of that, the majority of people, real people, who believed that she was a cop. And theres like a Campaign Going on called copmala. Shes out of the race and its still talking about her as a cop versus her job as a prosecutor or ag or what she did in the senate. So these are key pieces about what were looking at, but its to make people understand the disinformation and suppression is a continuum in our election process that we need to be paying more attention to because theres steps being taken and actions that are happening in this time we still havent handled. One of the things you talk about, and ive spoken about this before, is pushing out negative information about a candidate thats been selected to be targeted to turn black voters against them. But its who they are using as the voice quote unquote, the digital voice are supposedly also black people who are spreading that message. Heres what you write about fake accounts that are not necessarily really black people but who seem to be black people who are saying, hey, kamala say cop or this person is bad for black people. It mairtters not only in the election campaign. Theres been a constant number of fake accounts posing as black women. These fake accounts seem to be real people with real concerns. They connect with the American Black Community online, attempting to learn black vernacular and key issue areas. What will be the point of creating fake accounts who appear to be black women specifically . Because if we know as weve seen that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. Weve seen this. Weve even seen it just recently with elizabeth warrens campaign. There was an issue where she was basically having pressley speak on her behalf but it was also about her giving iyana presley leadership in that moment. Even after that moment there was a Viral Campaign against her basically saying, why should we support her if she is only going to support black women. It was a very interesting change in the dynamic of how it all of a sudden became, well, lets not support black women. Why should we do that . And thats the key to this. The reason that were supporting black women or the reason these accounts are pretending to be black women is because we already know the data point says that over 90 of black women will vote for democrats. And so now we have to focus on getting black people to do only one thing. Not vote for the democrats. Can you name one of those five campaigns . We put up from the report that theres a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. Theres a criminal justice conversation. Theres so reparations, immigration and sorry. Reparations, immigration and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. And is being used as a weapon right now. Are there real issues . Absolutely. I want to make sure people dont dismiss the fact there are some real issues were talking about. You had cory booker on talking about Police Brutality. These are key important issues to our community. We know that this is the case because in the previous election, in 2016, black lives matter was targeted because of their because of their campaign. That was focused on Police Brutality. It is still existing and happening right now. Its just were not seeing a way to handle this and do a counternarrative. How can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of black lives matter and the ones that are designed to make you not vote . You can tell by the language they use most of the time, but if we see anyone who says basically, tangibles or you arent getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what theyre better look at those accounts and seeing what theyre saying. And same thing same rules apply if these accounts are brandnew, you should pause and look at these accounts and see what theyre saying. Absolutely. Thank you very much. I know the report is coming out this week. Appreciate you breaking it here. Thank you. More a. M. Joy after the break. H you werent a motaur . Sure. Sometimes i wish i had legs like you. Yeah, like a regular person. No. Still half bike half man, just the opposite. Oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top . Yeah. Yeah, i could see that. For those who were born to ride, theres progressive. Yeah, i could see that. Man 1 vo proof of less joint pain woman 1 oc this is my body of proof. And clearer skin. Man 2 vo proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis. Woman 2 vo . With humira. Woman 3 vo humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. Its proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. 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S. Intelligence officials that russia quote, engaged a years Long Campaign to frame ukraine as responsible for moscows own hacking of the 2016 election. David holmes, political counselor at the u. S. Embassy in ukraine explained it in his public testimony. Second of all to drive a wedge between the United States and ukraine which russia wants to get back to influence. Thirdly to smurge, support of ukraine and other key partners and elsewhere. Nunes and Company Continues with these conspiracies. Republicans growing affinity for russia is true. According to gallop, there is a wide disparity among those naming russia as a greatest enemy of the United States. Democrats three times likely as republicans to name russians as the number one threat. As you can see in this chart after years of viewing russia about the same, the parties begin to split in 2016. The same year that russia hacked the u. S. Election which Vladimir Putin had us believed it was done by ukraine. Joining me now is Jack Kingston. It is great to see you congressman. I am glad to be with you, joy. Can you explain to me. One of the things i have found the weirdest watching the Republican Party over my lifetime is the shift from the reag reagan Republican Party to this party that seemed to admire russia and see russia as not a threat even though russia attacked our election which our former republican fbi director Robert Mueller delivered a report saying they did it. What is this weird affinity . I think we should be working with russia where we can. We do have American Company like paramet proctor and gamble. All administrations have tried to come up with some way to live in proximity of russia in a way we are not arched enemies and going to war. This is different, this is not just saying we should allow proctor and gamble in there. If russia says ukraine is the real guilty party in 2016. We believe it. John kennedy, you heard him. Even though hes been told and nunes is the Ranking Member of intelligence. Theyre saying that ukraine did it. What is that . Theyre saying both of them have done it. Both of them did not do it. Ukraine did nothing to us. There has been a lot of evidence and a lot of discussions. What evidence . Like the dnc . Are you trying to say that you think ukraine was involved in hacking the dnc server . I think it is possible. Joy, the reason why i say that is because these hackers are not really within one border or the other and i think over lap between russian sympathizes between ukraine. You just said there is no evidence of it. The Mueller Report of 400 something pages. The whole first half is about the attack on the dnc and what play out afterwards. Our intelligence service, we had 16 of them. They have definitively determined it was a russian outfit in russia, russian attack the dnc server, this whole thing that crowd strike, theyre a company that the Republican Party also hires to secure their serv server. Theyre based in california. They have nothing to do wit. Theyre the company that dnc high hired because they knew they have been hacked. There is literally and nothing ukraine had to do with the dnc. I just want you to know that. Let me say this, i dont think there is any rush to embrace russia, if you talked about lifting sanctions on russia. Certainly led by Lindsey Graham and others. I am going to stop you right there. Republicans led by Lindsey Graham and Mitch Mcconnell. The reason mcconnell is coulded moscow mitch, the republicans got together and universally decided to lift sanctions on sanction russians in entities and businesses. Russian oligarchs went roiight kentucky. Not a single republican would vote to do that. You had the nra ranking in russian money thats laundering through the nra. It is not true. This administration is the only one that syndrome russian asset and syria as you know. Trump took our troops out because russia wanted them out and turkey wanted them out. The sanctions they put through, hes done it reluctantly. That was a matter we need to stop some of these endless war. We well, the ones that we moved out of syria are still in the neighborhood and rallying of the kurds. Congress is schizophrenia of russia and what our relationship should be. On one hand, they say you got to get along with them. On the other hand, theyre horrible and putin is a bad guy. Both positions are correct. Let me get you definitely. I want to get you definitively on the record. You believe the reality that russia is who attacked our election. Yes, i do. I will say this and i will quickly say. Yes, i do. I think that congress has kidney i think that congress has kidney i think that congress has kidney i think that congress has kidney squandered enough. They should focus on cyber security. Thats what burress tried to do in the house that broke down in politics. Do you believe when russia attacked our election, they did it to help donald trump and to help to e lek hlect him. I think any kind of outside interference election is so discord and they got it. You believe our intelligence services, 16 of them who said they specifically interfered in the election to hurt Hillary Clinton and help donald trump, you believe that, right . I think there was a lot of evidence to that. Good, i want to make sure. Do you believe that organizations like the nra, i am going to read you a senate report, the Senate Committees are run by republicans. Along into the connection of the association describing the nra as a foreign asset and underscores the nra in connection of activity and russia. Do you believe that the nra should be looking into them, behaving as a russian asset. I would say any american entity seen as a russian asset by intelligence agency, we should review it. I would say that over conservative or liberal or organization and i think we should measure all of them with the same steps. Thats good. Lets talk about impeachment. I have my little binder. When donald trump is going to be impeached, i think it is likely it is going to happen. Yes, i do. I think it was almost determined in 2017. I dont know that. The speaker of the house, Speaker Pelosi, has been reluctant. Shes trying not to impeach him and now shes doing it. Donald trump has said article 2 of the constitution that he can do whatever he wants. Do you agree with him . No, i dont agree any president s can do whatever they want. In terms of being able to fire people, he can do that and his right to go to court when two br branches of documents having a dispute. It is an absolute of power, you want to go to court, thats abuse of power. I think as Jonathan Turley said that jerry nadler and nancy pelosi abusing the power. Do you believe donald trump when subpoenaed by congress or his aid subpoenaed, they should appear . They should appear in court. I can say this as somebody in the house for 22 years. The house on a bipartisan biases has been fighting with the administrations. All the time. It drives us crazy, let my say that. Are you concerned of the power of your former branch. You were a member of congress, under this president , it does seem that republicans have seated a lot of the power. There is a lot of monarchism i can see going on in which they seem to agree with william bar. Republicans arguing that he should not listen to their own subpoenas from congress. Are republicans moving towards allowing the president of the United States to be a king. I think this has been a tendency not just on impeachmentmeimpeachment but on a myriad of other issues, not just donald trump but with other administrations. I will point out this that nixon, it was bipartisan support for impeachment. With clinton, there was bipartisan support for impeachment. Nancy pelosi and jerry nadler have both sidaid, it is not for the country to move forward of a strong consensus or evidence in a bipartisan way. Here we go, it is going to be a spar partisan impeachment until it gets in the senate. It is going to be a whole new trial period. It appears to me when you listen to the jim jordan and the devin nunes who are leading Donald Trumps side of this and you look at the way republicans are obedient to donald trump. He could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue. I cant think of a single republican who would go against him. You cant get bipartisan ship if there is nothing he could do that they would impeach him. There has been bipartisans p bipartisanship. It is bipartisa bipartisansh. Let me give you an example. There is no duress or clear line of perjury or objection of justice. The case where Congress Said money should go to ukraine. Congress passed the money, donald trump says i am not going to give you money to ukraine unless you do me a favor. You think having an affair is more impeachable than that . I can answer both questions. If you look at clinton as an affair, you would not vote for impeachment. If you look at the perjury that was committed then there were offenses. Four articles all had bipartisan votes on them both ways. In terms of trump, we have the transcripts that says do us a favor. It is kind of hard to. Zelensky himself said he felt no pressure. There was no investigation, there was no announcement of investigation and aid was released. Democrats did not prove their point. It was extremely partisan railroad in which the due process was conducted. Only one witness who actually had real on hands information who was in on the phone call. He said trump later told him no pressure, i dont want it. On the idea of president zelensky saying there is no pressure. Hes not in a position to go public and humiliating himself in his own country. Hes not in a position to do that. I dont think what he said publicly is good evidence for you. He just did an interview in which he said Holding Things forward is not the right thing to do. On the idea that yes, the aid was released right after the white house found out they have been busted. They did not release that aid until the whistleblowers complaint came out and they were informed about it and suddenly they gave it up. The announcement was going to be made. The president of ukraine had booked himself an interview on cnn to do as he was forced to do. It is just blue up in public and he did not have to do it. All the ukrainians side of the story and the people involved in the call, the people we saw testified in front of the House Committee all corroborated the same thing that the pressure was being put on and that only the whistleblower coming forward stopped it. It is all hearsay. It is not for the people the ambassador said, i talked to donald trump and he said i dont want anything from ukraine. You are talking about ambassador sondland. Who said it was a quid pro quo and that everyone was involved in it. He was one of the flakiest. Now you are saying to believe him. New york cihe was the only o on the phone call. We know that and he did talk to donald trump. The rest of them have not met donald trump except for the room of 30 or 40 people. I dont think it matters to what they heard. Ambassador sondland who said definitively what was happening was a quid pro quo that everyone was in on it. That was his testimony. Hopefully we can find it. He left that out of the statement. His Opening Statement was damming. Except that he admitted the material fact that the president told him in a phone call and he said what do you want from ukraine, i dont want anything. What had happened between that phone call and the events in question . He also testified today . They had find out remember this, there is no blue dress and there is no midnight break in. The American People are loss when you bring in four academics, three offensive smugged ones that said what was smug about them . Because they have degrees from a Nice University . They did not connect with the walmart shoppers and thats whos going to be voting in iowa and South Carolina soon and other states to come. Democratic party we try to say here. Use your georgia nice. Let let me say this. I talked to a senior senator on thursday, when this get to ts t senate. The first witness is adam schiff, did you talk to the whistleblower and the whistleblower itself and the whistleblowers lawyer. If there is a quid pro quo, you are admitting that the goal of the Republican Party of the senate will be hunter biden, putting him on trial and try to out the whistleblower again. Why are they so determined to out this person who by the way is the only reason that donald trump did not do what he was trying to do because this whistleblower caught him. Why are they trying to out him . These learning professors. Let me answer the questions. They forgot to talk about due process. Youre right to face your accuser in america. Is this a real, ran dom or is this a political ope operative. The u. S. Senate, it will be bipartisan and much greater sense of the house. They want to destroy this person, right . They want to set them up at fox news. Look at the evidence. You think jimmy jordan questioning this person is going to be doing it or try to destroy this person. Let me say this. Would we agree that in both parties there are some destruction of witnesses that goes on . I dont know know any of those witnesses are being destroyed. Trying to destroy drop. I want to ask you about donald trump. The whistleblower is central to it. Maybe not on primetime tv but i think to have it access, find out how coordinated hes been with adam schiff. Thats not relevant. This is like trying to get the person who called 911 and saying thats the person that you want to question. I want to ask you one question. Thats a great analogy and i am going to let it go because you are not giving me time. Go ahead. Any time you can establish motivation, it is important. If hes this patriotic american who simply calling in the fire, you know what, god bless them. I think it is relevant, how did you come across the phone ca call other people who heard the phone call were so alarmed that they went and the people who heard the phone call, we saw them testify. They were so alarmed of what was happening that they had to tell someone. They tried to go through a proper process which william barr tried to impede. Thats the way our system works, you think something is wrong and done and you tell joyour story d you get your question. I want to ask you on the opportunity of duress. I think at this point, he has no choice. The reports already been written. You dont think he should not send council. Hey, georgia lsu game. Georgia is going to win. He had the opportunity the whole time. He does not have equal time. Republicans were in the Intelligence Committee hearing, too. We can agree it has been a political process. Got bless the majority of the senate has that opportunity but i think, in the senate, you will see a lot more bipartisan and witnesses and i think it is very possible. You think devin nunes is one of those witnesses since he was on the phone . To talk about why adam schiff you goo uys keep on attackin adam schiff. You are a georgian. I think it is the squad and all that crowd whos the hard core democrat red meat base. I dont think the squad is with impeaching donald trump. Lets go onto another issue that i th i think is important. You are from georgia. John lewis polk about a passage of the bill to fix the Voting Rights to restore it. It enables people who look like me to have access to the ballot. It was gutted under the current conservative court. Now you have an attempt to fix it. Omnivore o only one republican voted in favor of that fix. I went and pulled the 1965 Voting Rights act vote. In that instance, 112 republicans and 221 democrats, that was truly bipartisan. Only 23 republicans and 62 democrats voted no. Why wont republicans vote for a bill to expand and store the full right to vote . I think if you look at the recent vote on it. It did get bipartisan vote including mine. It did . I sat next to a woman named Cynthia Mckinny to be in congress. I would not be here without the voters rights act. What the white democrats in the south were doing were putting enough africanamerican votes in congressional or political districts to make it so that republicans could not win and black could not win. To me there had been great advantages for both parties but for american in general because of Voting Rights. Why oppose it . I think if they go back to how brennan outlined it. If you were in congress, would you vote for it . I dont know the particular bill. I would vote it again on how i vote on the bill five years ago. And it had a lot of bipartisan support. Do you think lastly that states should have to preclear, thats what this bill was about with the Civil Rights Division before they make changes to their voting rules that can hurt other people. I think it is significant change that needs to be precleared. It states on a bipartisan biases should be able to nimble around the edges for a technical correction. It has served boeth parties ver well. It may be it. It is your birthday. Last time i crashed your birthday. I will do it again. The last time i saw this man, he crashed my party with april ryan. And with dance. In harlem. Thank you very much, you are always invited domicoming back the show. We cant get a lot of republicans do it. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me. Coming up. Reaction to this interview is next. Thank you, sir. Ew is next thank you, sir great riches will find you when Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. Wow. Thanks, zoltar. How can i ever repay you . Maybe you could free zoltar . Thanks, lady. Taxi only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Did you know that feeling sluggish or weighed down could be signs that your digestive system isnt working at its best . Taking metamucil every day can help. Metamucil supports your daily Digestive Health using a special plantbased fiber called psyllium. 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I hope you had a chance to hear Jack Kingston and who i am going to give credit because not a lot of republicans willing to come on the show. He does believe the intelligence that russia attacked our elections, which was good. He also said he thinks there are questions that could be raised on ukraine. Russia has been effective in getting people to believe even theyre willing to believe the real information that there is something about ukraine. It is that dangerous if people carry around this idea that we dont know what they did and ukraine did something wrong. Yes, joy. Thank you so much for having me. It helps russia for the republicans to help the kremlin muddy the waters and tried to blame ukraine when they clear lino from intelligence breakings and testimonies by accredited professionals that was russia and not ukraine that meddled into the elections. President trumps request for ukraine to investigate themselves for alleged election interference. Pretend to think that ukrainer fear interfered in our election as well. Chris murphy tweeted, the Republican Party is becoming the most important global asset of russian intel. Really . I think a lot of people are stra scratching their head over it. The pragmatic answer to it is if russia did it and everyone knows they did it to help donald trump, republicans who are putting on the red jacket to quote congressman kingston, they have to defend russia, right . If russia is innocent, so is donald trump. Is this pure partisanship, do you think something is going on with the party . Well, it sounds like it is very much a colt like partisanship and also it is important to point out that it did not just start now. It started back with russia if you are listening and it never stopped. I am sure if you remember and reported on this that republicans went to celebrate 4th of july in russia and they actually said theyre going there to build a rapport and the russian state media repeatedly talked about donald trump being held back by the mueller investigations from being able to move forward with restoring Good Relationships with russia, although there never was a Good Relationship but what they really mean is that once the Mueller Report concluded, trumps hands are untied and he could move forward with whitewashing russia and removing sanctions and one way to remove the sanctions is to say it is not really clear who interfered and may have been ukraine and not russia. Theyre marching towards the same goal from the republican side, theyre doing that to help president trump. From his side, hes doing that because his states goal is to get along with russia without russia offering any concessions whatsoever and seemingly all the concessions are coming from the american side. Two ways to look at this. One way to say it is economic. Organizations like the nra gotten a lot of money and the state of kentucky which is why Mitch Mcconnell is named moscow and letting sanctions go. Exxon mobile can have attack on a billion dollars bill if we drop the sanctions on russia. On the other side there is a negative motivation, those eight russians that went to moscow or donald trump or others or members of the senate who were super, super prorussia seeming had been compromised and russia got here emails, too. Senator marco rubio in 2016 reminded us that their emails got it, too. Could it be compromised or purely economics or a combination of both . It could be a combination of both certainly. It sounds like republicans would not be too excited to have their emails released or very out spoken now and especially fox news that has become our version of the state immediate wmedia t saying russia is our ally that we should be supporting and not ukraine which is very alarming. I think it is a combination of both. It is power and money and russians know very well how to exploit both. You have Tucker Carlson telling them we should be on russias side. Thank you very much julia davis. Donald trumps impeachment players are storming the sunday morning talk shows. Well sort out all of that nonsense after this break. Nonsense after this break. Before we talk about taxsmart investing, whats new . Audreys expecting. Twins wed be closer to the twins. Change in plans. At fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan. Where we can find common ground. Big enough to dance on. For a better us, donate to your local y today. 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Gone through so much. Well, mark meadows, one of several republicans who has been on other talk shows. House democrats inching closer and closer to donald trump. Jill winebanks, Tiffany Cross and paul butler. Tiffany cross. Can we break up the violin now or later . Whee. The lightbulbs made him look like orange. Shame on you mark meadows. I remember watching him sitting there saying that. Is anybody going to push back on that . They tried to factcheck him in realtime not quite like you just dragged kingston and factchecking him in realtime. This is actually very serious. It is very serious. This is our country. This is our democracy. And when you have republicans who are his unindicted coconspirators, who are coming out and spinning in our face and telling us it is raining. You have this swelling of this red high whos removable who believe this. They consume this nonsense, they are an existential threat. We have never been tested like this. It is not a partisan issue at this point. This is american patriots verses draft traitors. We need to be honest about that. We have to demand that jou journalists holding these people accountable. I cant tell you enough that interview with kingston was spot on, you factchecked him realtime. You can google these things and see theyre not true. Sadly, most people who are stuck on earth too are not going to see that interview. Theyre only watching fox news and they wont step back into reality. You and i after all this country have done to people who look like us, we are bigger patriots than republicans. It kancant be bipartisanshi. I want to play for you for adam schiff. The driver of what we are going to see. He did the investigation that put forward the witnesses. Here he is on face the nation on how hell present articles of impeachment. Take a listen. As a former prosecutor, it is always my strategy in a charging decision and impeachment of the house, charging decision to charge those of the strongest and most overwhelming evidence and not trying to charge everything even though you can charge other they thinkings. Thats my guiding philosophy. There is overwhelming evidence that the president coerce ukraine and interfered into our election. Sought to cheat in our election by getting Foreign Government to weigh in. Jill, theyre not going to go broad it seems. There is a lot they could charge donald trump with from emolument clause and claiming he has absolute power under article 2. What they need to do is be very precise in their language and that they can include a number of counts all within the same framework. So for example, obstruction could be obstruction of the impeachment inquiry, obstruction of the mueller inquiry and congresss oversight. Those are important. Those are the risks that matters to democracy. They can have a detailed outline of what the abusive power is. It could be the extortion, it can be any other detail and the reason for making it detailed is that it may allow individual republican members of congress to adopt a particular one that they resonate with. Ukraine is clearly the most come p compelling case. What they are now saying it is not impeachable for reasons that make no sense. But, i think the facts are so clear that some republicans may agree that was something that he did. And there are many other things that he has done which includes the obstruction of the investigation that other people may be able to agree to and if we can bring in even one republican or two or three and any one of those counts, when we look back at the nixons articles, there were three and there were different republicans who supported each of those three and so one had the most. Others had some. And i think thats an important opportunity that the democrats could use in the drafting of these articles to bring in some republicans who are uncomfortable with the conduct who are uncomfortable of the role model of the president is setting for the future. Yeah. They would not accept this from democrats in the future. They should holdup and stand up and be count or held accountable for their failure to vote for impeachment on these grounds. It is a good pinkie. Congressman kingston did say. One or two democrats doing the other way is counted as bipartisansh bipartisanship. Paul, let me let you listen to the guy who was in charge of writing this article. Some of these things are very clear. There is overwhelming evidence unco uncontested that the president put himself above the country and sought foreign assistance in elections and sought to cover it up and defiied participation in the congressional investigation. This president put himself above the interests of the country and poses the threat of the integrity of the next election. Thats not something well be talking about 20 years ago. As a former prosecutor, paul, do you think it is that clear. Former georgia congressman says there is no blue dress in all of that. There is no smoking dress. Uc you want to put it that way. There is a smoky telephone call, i would like you to do us a favor though. Trumps the fifth now, the whole United States had nothing to gain from an announcement of the investigation, remember the investigation was not much of what really wanted. Ambassador so ambassador sondland wanted the announcement. We dont gain any political help from trump. As Speaker Pelosi says her announcement of the impeachment. The president directed a scheme or he put u. S. Foreign policies on the line in order to advance his own partisan interests. Thats different from president clinton lying about extramarital affair. This is as Speaker Pelosi said about National Security, the president of the United States is a danger to democracy. I dont know why democrats are not running ad everyday showing all the same republicans whos saying bill clinton should be impeached. I dont know why they are not s saying san francis doing that. My panel will be right back for who won the week. Ck for who won the week cologuard colon Cancer Screening for people 50 plus at average risk. Some things are harder than you thought. And others are easier. Like screening for colon cancer with me, cologuard. Im noninvasive and you use me at home. Im also effective. I find 92 of colon cancers using dna in your stool. So why wait . Cologuard is not for those at high risk for colon cancer. False positive and negative results may occur. Ask your Healthcare Provider if cologuard is right for you. Most insured patients pay 0. 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That goes to professor karlan a pelosi, but it goes back to all of the strong brave women who have spoken truth to power, who have taken on donald trump and i would say representative collins as well, because they have done a great job and going back to fiona hill and the ambassador and sally yates the acting attorney general who is the first to start this by calling out flynn and also refusing to enforce a muslim ban that she considered unconstitutional and women have won the week. It is amazing, because women are the leaders of the resistance and they have been the most gutsy, and it is the first person to come forward to say i will testify and women have been leading it and you saw nancy pelosi coming out there in her white outfit, right, her suffragette white. And the pin. And she put a Catholic School hit down on him. That is the best suit. When she wears that, that is extra, extra dont come for me and extra extra leave me alone. This is going to be tough. And bringing up the rear, and bringing it up, Tiffany Cross, the pressure is huge, but i believe in you. I believe in you. I am confident that my who won the week is going to be your who won the week. Okay. Because you are talking about women who are crushing it. So i want to say who won the week is the woman who crushes it every day and you know who it is, that is joy reid, ladies and gentlemen. Joy reid won the week. And it is birthday and i dont have to tell you how amazing she is and oh, my god. Happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear lamongello happy birthday to you that is my crazy brother. It is your birthday. Oh, my god. Thank you, oren. Where did you moon at . Where is my sister at . Wait s there more . There is going to be more on the phone. Who else is on the phone . June moon. Oh, my sister. And we lost you but june moon was trying to call in as well. My sister who is a fabulous actress by the way. Can you hear me . Can you hear me . There she is. There she is. There i am. And did you hear me sing . I can sing it again. Were you singing, too . Happy birthday happy birthday to you and my sister is a fabulous actress and google her on the dmb pro. And so you guys are wonderful, and they never tell me who won the week. And i am trying to tell her, and i am like where is the elements, where is the elements. I am talking to the control room. And oh, my god, you guys are a trip. You guys are a trip, because now here comes hank, and i had june and oren and now hang. You guys are too cute. I love my team so much. You are my friend. Thank you, hank. I love you guys. Ju june, i love you. Oren, you i love you. And you guys always win the week. And so lomenna, yes. I love you very much. So i was going to pick hair love and i am going promote them. There is a movie called hair love and june is going to love this. 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That is what explains it, you are so beautiful and glam this weekend and it is the birthday girl and i wanted to say that i wanted to wish a happy birthday to two of my favorite girls on the planet and one is you today and the other is my daughter tomorrow. Oh. And next year when it is my birthday can your family adopt me, because we are sisters from another mother, and they will sing to me. Yes, it has happened already. So happy birthday to your wonderful daughter and i hope she has a fabulous pink day. For sure in pink and just like you today. So much fun. Okay. Thank you. Well, after that all of that reveille, everybody, a very good day from msnbc world headquarters, and it is 9 00 a. M. Out west and high noon out east. We have new and alarming details this hour, because we are about to learn more about the pensacola shooting suspect and what he was doing in the days before the naval base attackment fast and furious in capitol hill and impeachment in overdrive. The judiciary members working through the weekend to prepare the ultimate case before the nation revealing tomorrow. We have a lock solid case tomorrow, and the case is going to be presented to the jury would be guilty in about three minutes flat. This is a joke of a process. It is dangerous to the country. And some key answers to impeachment questions ahead. Plus 2020 contenders, and the