Thing. The nfl players are at it again taking a knee when they should be standing proudly for the National Anthem. Numerous players wanted to show outrage something most of them are unable to define. They make a fortune doing what they love. That was friday. They know exactly why theyre taking a knee. Colin kaepernick hasnt worked since hes been Black Baballed the nfl. It would do the country a Great Service one if he would stop tweeting about that and two truly find out what the players are protesting and again, the last part of that tweet, be happy, be cool. A Football Game that fans are paying so much money to watch and enjoy is no place to protest. You can read the rest of that yourself, but i want to make one thing clear. I dont know if many people realize or understand. When Colin Kaepernick started protesting at the nfl games, he originally sat on the bench out. Sat out the National Anthem until another then nfl player
who was also a veteran wrote an open letter to him. He and Colin Kaepernick met and it was because of that meeting with that veteran that Colin Kaepernick learn thad ted that the members of the Armed Forces Honor their fallen brothers and sisters is to take a knee. That is why Colin Kaepernick is taking a knee. Something the president either doesnt know or doesnt care to understand. Joining me anyway is tim wise, author of white like me. Care. New documentary stone ghost, a journey through the confederate south to charlottesville to selma. Let me fete your general impression of ten tweets that ten racist statements from the president which i must say are all the statements made since charlottesville and are only some of the things attributed to
the president. Thats literally the tip of the iceberg in an over 40 year process of doing or saying racist things on the part of this man. Youve clearly demonstrated the recede. For people to continue denying this man is either himself a racist or at the very least is happy to empower racist is absurd. Member, barack obama was called racist by right wing Talk Show Host for having a tax on tanning salon visits. Arrest professor gates. That was evidence he hated white people. The very same folks who will talk about taxes on tanning beds will look at all of those things you said and say, well, im not really sure if hes racist. The reality is whether he in his heart is a david duke level racist or white spremi isspremi
the point. When you spend more time condemning blackball players taking a knee than you spend condemning nazis gathering outside your house tomorrow, you are either a white spremist or someone incredible comfortable with the presence of White Nationalist on your doorstep. Tells us a lot about you. Since you are in washington, let me have you jump off what tim was just saying, the socalled Unite The Right rally going to be happening tomorrow in washington within a stones throw of the white house. The president isnt there. He has tweeted about charlottesville. He tweeted moments ago the riots in charlottesville result instead senseless death and division. Come together as a nation and condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to all americans. I want to go back to a tweet that you mentioned jonathan just now from 24 hours ago on the eve Of Charlottesville. That tweet where he attacks nfl players. The thing about that tweet is if you really dig into it and look at when hes saying, be cool. Youre being paid a lot of money to do this. It is what it tells me is that he sees black athletes in general as entertainers. Not as american citizens. Not as, hey, these are people who are american citizens who really care about what is going on what racial inequality in this country. That is what theyre talking about. What does he do . He says be quiet and play. Youre getting paid a lot of money to do that. That is the problem with the president. Not just entertainers and black
players. It is also black figures just in general. He uses it by saying things like attacking iqs. Attacking what is it that youre upset about. You have everything that you can possibly need. And the last thing ill say on this point, jonathan, is that this week we remembered the birthdays of michael brown, who would have been 22 years old this week. And also Stephen Clark who would have been 24 years old this week. Both killed by police officers. And never have gotten their families havent gotten any type of, you know, satisfaction or anything for their deaths. And this is what nfl players, black players, black people who are speaking up against this racial inquality are talking about. Their lives. Lets keep in mind, it was the death of Philandro Kas Fee owe in minnesota thin minnesota
the statute. I wanted to go down and see what the connection was about. We knew it was about more than just a monument. I went to virginia and kentucky and alabama and mississippi and spent time with the descendents of veterans and what these idols, these monuments mean to them, but on the other side black folks that have to walk in the shadows of the statutes. Talk about complicated disturbing history. How it resinates today. Theyll give you every other reason besides slavery for The Civil War. Talk about the pinpoints of the lost cause. It wasnt about slavery. Slaves were kind of happy. About defending virtue of this antebellum south. Theres a lot of mythology and romance. Every turn, people are engulf instead this sense of history. Heather hieyer i have to go to
old Car Dealership to get it repaired. Since you mentioned the number of confederate monuments that are there. We have graphic today more than 1700 confederate monuments that remain in Public Spaces since charlottesville, 113 of those confederate symbols have been renamed or removed across the United States. I want to since you brought up heather heyer. Her mother, susan, understandably has been more public this week because its the anniversary Of Charlottesville. She gave an interview to msnbc on friday. Lets take a look at that. Can you talk at all whether the president has helped or hurt since charlottesville. I personally couldnt say one way or the other. I can tell you what dade duke and Richard Spencer and matthew
have said. The Current Administration has given them the go ahead. Given them a thumbs up. Given them a wink and nod. Thats their words. Not mine. Tim, i mean, isnt that the issue here . I mean, i spent the opening five minutes of this show flat out calling the president a racist, but there are people who were using his using of the presidency to be open about their bigotry. This is the thing. If donald trump were a Remotedly Decedent Human Being and felt as though he were being misunderstood by david duke, misunderstood by Richard Spencer. What he would do is go before the American People and go, oh, im so sorry. This is not what i mean at all. And i absolutely reject every aspect of what youre saying, but the reality is he is slowly at the public rhetoric around immigration and crime and the
very issues neo nazis have been talking about for years, hes capping their rhetoric. Thats why they feel emboldened. Not only is he not condemning them and saying oh, my god you totally are misunderstanding me. Let me clarify. Hes giving them aide and comfort. And, you know, i much prefer. Its funny. Heres a guy whose motto was make America Great again. America was never great for people of color. One of the things that made us A Little Greater was one upon a time a few generations back, we knew how to deal with nazis. We didnt say there were some fine people among them. We realize ds they gd they got. In this era, we forgotten that wisdom. If make America Means lets get back to a time when we did not coddle nazis. Lets go back to nostalgic time of white male domination. That is what they are talking about. That is what the president is playing too and thats what is so incredibly dangerous in this moment of our history. Welcome to the show. Shawn sekulow and mayor rudy giuliani. How about that. Giuliani and sekulow. For purposes of right now, my colleague and cocounsel in a case involving all russia inquiry that were engaged in. The may have red something about it. Also going to be taking your calls. Theyre lawyers. Didnt have routine Guest Appearance on a radio show. Instead for three hours, the members of legal team guest hosted sean hannity Syndicated Radio Show giving them unfettered access to spout off opinion while slamming special Counsel Robert Mueller russia investigation. I think if i were the
attorney general, i would appoint an independent counsel. Two purposes, to appropriately p prosecute the people who violated these laws. Comey clearly leaked a document that he wasnt supposed to leak. If you look at scope and nature of the inquiry t way it started. The corruption at the outset. Looks like ill legitimate investigation. Said this a long time back. Its a witch hunt. I want to play one more sound bite from the tour defours that was sekulow, giuliani. I think what we have to get clear is a lot of people are telling it this way. If hes telling the truth, just go in and testify. Welcome to the real world. The fact is he is telling the
truth. Theyre walking him in a possible perjury trap. Not because he isnt telling the truth, but because somebody else isnt telling the truth who they would credit. Namely comey. Paul, im not a lawyer, but if someone isnt telling the truth well, i mean, comey is the one who is under oath having said something. Wouldnt comey be somebody who would be liable or subject to perjury if he didnt Tell The Truth . Of course and no problem youre not a lawyer. Rudy giuliani the not an effective lawyer. Hes a hype man. Entertainer, and doesnt understand basic things about how perjury works. How his client has the obligation to Tell The Truth. He did you want think trump is capable of going into a grand
jury. Thats why all the hype. The great congressman former congressman from michigan john dingle had one of the best twitter feeds on twitter. He had a tweet yesterday quote. Its only a Prerjury Trap if youre a dam liar. As many people said, your clients inability to Tell The Truth does not make it at perjury trap. Thats your clients problem. Another thing going on i want people to understand. Giuliani, sekulow, most of Trump Supporters want to elevate him to the point hes above the law. If he was simply, if donald trump simply acted like a normal
american citizen, then we have normal american laws that can protect him. If hes afraid he goes into a situation and incriminate himself, we have a law for that. Its called the fifth amendment. He can say i have a right against Self Incrimination and this part of the this part is done. Why cant he do that. Why cant he subject himself to the laws that protect us and him. Thats a rhetorical question, right . I think we know why. I do not know why taking the fifth is off the table for him. I get in a normal political world. In a normal presidency, we know that a president taking the fifth, that is like a Political Nuclear bomb for a presidency, but not this guy. This hasnt been normal since Access Hollywood. If Access Hollywood isnt going
to stop him and good people on both sides arent going to stop him, i dont see how the fifth stops him in any way. Its a legitimate legal strategy as opposed to whatever the Heck Giuliani and sekulow are doing right now. What they are doing, they are lawyers, but theyre playing tv lawyers because this is they are playing in the court of public opinion. We talked about this a lot. All the time that they probably view what is this is going to end up in congress and some sort of kbuchimpeachment process whi a pretty process. Theyve always been communicating to everyone what they say the president will or wont do. One of those things is talking about the Interview Topics that President Trump would allow himself to be asked about. So associates contact with russia. Possibly coordination with Trumps Campaign and election
interference. These arent the things they want to talk about. These are the things they dont want to talk about. Obstruction of justice, thats the whole special counsel investigation. Yes, that and collusion, the National Security issue, but look. President trump is never, ever going to sit in a room with a grand jury and bob mueller and answer questions. It aint going to happen. Mueller is being played by giuliani thinks thats what he is doing. The thing is, President Trump really needs a lawyer at this point. We see him running scared. Hes issued 400 tweets about mueller and the russian investigation. So some of his real lawyers are apparently talking to mueller as lawyers do about the status of the investigation about what might happen. And trump seems to think something is coming. We have this indictment of the russians for hacking. And then it looks like next down the line is roger stone who was the go between the russians and the Trump Campaign. The third, the next act. It looks like it might be somebody really high up in the Trump Campaign. We should point out the trump has already tweeted twice this morning about the investigation. More Tape Troubles for the white house. Thats next. Oh oh ozempic® vo people with Type 2 Diabetes are excited about the potential of onceweekly ozempic®. In a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. Oh under seven . vo and you may lose weight. In the same oneyear study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. Oh up to 12 pounds . vo a twoyear study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. Oh no increased risk . Ozempic® ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes, or for people with Type 1 Diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. Do not share needles or pens. Dont reuse needles. Do not take ozempic® if you have a personal or Family History of medullary thyroid cancer, multiple Endocrine Neoplasia Syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to ozempic®. Stop taking ozempic® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, itching, rash, or trouble breathing. Serious side effects may happen, including pancreatitis. Tell your doctor if you have Diabetic Retinopathy or vision changes. Taking ozempic® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase the risk for low blood sugar. Common side effects are nausea,
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cross every t seven times before this. Hes in serious trouble. When youre charged with 11 felonies. This is classic insider trading. Got the information from inside sources. Family sold the stock and information goes public. Couldnt make a better caser tr. Local leaders were saying they were not publically backing him. He felt he has to get out. This is a district he won by 67 last time and the time before and cycle before in 2014. Its a solid red district. Chris collins became district in play and they cant lose, they cant afford to lows any seasoned republicans because a blue waive might come. They need to see. I total le agree with what dean and evan said. This is district r plus 22. Safe republican district. The moment this announcement happened, not todays announcement, but him getting arrested. It was changed to a competitive
seed and right now democrats have the enthusiasenthusiasm. And i agree, i think republicans were looking at this and saying, hey, youre just we cant have you sticking around. What you saw the other day during the press conference when they were laying out what he was arrested for, it seemed pretty airtight. He seems very corrupt. And just a long list of very best people of donald trump. Some of the only hire the best people. Birds of a feather. The prosecutors had what was it, sir, phone calls that the congressman made to his son. One which is already spectacular, but the congressman was at the congressional picnic at the white house. Theres a picture from a disstance of him on the phones presumably calling his son. I mean, in republicans ran on Culture Of Corruption. Tance of presumably calling his son. I mean, in republicans ran on Culture Of Corruption. Here we are 12 years later. This is really corrupt from manafort to collins to pruitt. There is a Culture Of Corruption from the guy who said he was going to drain the swamp. I think theres corruption in every administration and every congress. Never on the level. Do you remember not like this in obama. No, no. No evidence. Dont go there evan. Come on now. Clean that up, evan. Let me finish. You guys were premature with the reaction. Thats why i threw in congress. Members of congress that are corrupt. This administration as well as those around it because Chris Collins was in the trump orbit or first member of congress. Its incompetent corruption. Theyre not even good at that. Its just surprising. Is it incompetent or. Do you remember when
president obamas Campaign Manager on federal trial. No, i dont. Remember when National Security adviser pled to a felony or deputy Campaign Manager pled guilty to the felony. I do remember the irs scandal. I know youre not defending trump. Its not about that. This Culture Of Corruption is a whole different level. Campaign manager literally on trial as we sit here. Deputy Campaign Manager. And the Idea Trump Didnt Know Manafort is a joke. He knew him from the days he had a Lobbying Firm and donald trump was a client and in 2006, donald trump sold a condo for 3. 7 million in cash to Paul Manafort and that didnt raise any flags. Thats when the whole window of accusations began. He knew Paul Manafort. Surrounded himself with criminals. Hes comfortable with people who bend the law or break the law. Evan said something in his
initial answer that hi want to flesh out more. That is the fact that after being defiant and saying he was going to run for reelection and now the Congressman Collins said he is not going to run for reelection, take his try to get name removed from the ballot. Evan, in a normal world, i think youre right. Leaders in congress would go to collins and say, brother, you cant run. Get out of this race, but thats a political calculation. Where is the moral calculation with the republican caucus. Not just the corruption. This is about family and the party of family value. His right of patriotism. Look at who they have at the head head of the Republican Party. Donald trump who literally steps on all of these things. They have given away the party
to donald trump. And the Republican Party is the trump party. And when you look at the administration it is reex of corruption from secretaries to donald trump to secretaries and now people who supported donald trump from the beginning. You have devin nunez. You can go on. You have the conservative group of the house. The freedom caucus. Exactly. Who do his bidding at the drop of the hat. You have the leadership, Mitch Mcconnell, paul ryan who dont say anything. Not protecting this country. Protecting the party. Right. Let me get evan in here on this. Why the party of Family Values. Party of strong defense. Party of be weary of russia. This party of no deficits no debt. Fiscal probe ity. I dont think we gave it away. What happened was the people were upset left. In 2016, 31 of the country were republicans. Now in 2018, its 28 . Thats 10 million less republicans. Those are the people who care about that and say im not going to be a part of this personality. In addition to that, bleeding young republicans from the party between December 2015 and march 2017. We lost republicans. Republicans like to talk about how President Trumps Approval Rating are higher than any president. Thats true. The only people who are staying are the ones cheering as he completely flips us on moral values. Doesnt speak up against racial violence and intolerance. Says there should be penalties for kneeling before the National Anthem. I think there should be penalties for kneeling before putin in helsinki, but thats me. Trump is the gop and the gop
is trump. Thats who it is. The Democratic Party has to run against in 2018. Make it clear, if you opposed to bigotry and sexism and racism. The way to do is cast a vote in 87 days on november 6. The gap has gotten smaller. Give people a reason to vote for us more so than were doing. Not sure at a National Level of local race by lace level right now. Give people a reason to come out and vote for democrats to win big. I agree with you. Love to have you jump in. What weve seen with special elections is cookie cutter democratic. You cannot ask a democratic in
alabama to run on the same issues that you ask a democratic in california to run on to separate parts of the country. Two separate constituencies. By and large, concerns. I would say the democrats run your race. I agree with you on that, jonathan. There are issues that are moving democrats just across the board. Doesnt matter if youre in a red state or d state. Which is health care. Right. Which is a Family Separation. That is an immigration. That is actually moving people and we see that. Which is the tax cuts. Just incredibly popular and our base is reacting to all of those things. There is some antitrump sentiment as well. Moving the base. We have issues. We are on the right side of history. We have real issues to one. I do want to get back to republicans for a second. When evan said they didnt they didnt give it away. They lost republicans, but my argument to evan is this, where is Mitch Mcconnell . Where is paul ryan. . Why are they not fighting and doing their job and holding the president accountable. Theyre not. Theyre silent. They say a couple of words, but dont take action. Their words are weak. Thats the point i dont understand. Yes. Very quickly. The big problem is you do that and have the gop base go crazy and Start Primarying every republican out there and wind up with trump like figures in congress, which we dont want. My advice for democrats, well, yes, each race is local. The two things really need to hammer down on health care. I wrote on nbc news thinking. On the academy, democrats can see the point. Its agreed upon. Is it a great economy for you. Dont get in immigration. Its a trap. And i can see that. A real trap. Well be back with us in next hour. Coming up in our next hour, nazis are coming to washington and the latest on omarosas blockbuster book. vo theres so much we want to show her. We needed a car that would last long enough to see it all. avo subaru outback. 98 are still on the road after 10 years. Come on mom, lets go avo right now, get 0 Apr Financing on the 2018 subaru outback. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. No experience, no job. I could do that job, but who would give me the chance . Army, navy, air force, marines. And now you can add space force. Vice president mike pence announced on thursday plans to establish space force as soon as 2020 as the first new branch added to the military since world war ii. Donald trump has been advocating for a space force for months. And proudly tweeted after pences announcement, space force all the way. Pence says its necessary for dominance over foreign adversaries. President trump has said in his words, it is not enough to merely have an american presence in space. We must have american dominance in space. Our adversaries have transformed space into a warfighting domain
already. And the United States will not shrink from this challenge. Okay, we got to talk about this. Joining me now is physicist and author of the future of humanity. Michio, i didnt realize space was already some sort of battle domain. Where have i been . First of all, space is where the economy is, gps, weather satellites. All of it is done in outer space. Lets not fool ourselves. The russians, the chinese and the United States have been working on killer Satellite Technology. What does that mean . Satellites that go up there and they shoot things . Were talking about hydrogen bam over north korea. The pulse would knock out half of our weather satellites, blinding us and knock out most of our Power Stations so we
would have blackouts through north america. A single hydrogen warhead could create havoc. Were the most vulnerable because we have over 50 of the commercial Operating Satellites are u. S. Satellites. So, the chinese have an expression. Never pick up a boulder only to drop it on your own feet. We have to be very careful this doesnt backfire on us because were sitting ducks. Our satellites are not reinforced. They have no antimissile capabilities. Is anybodys satellite reinforced . Pretty much no. Okay. So, all the satellites could easily be wiped out in case of a nuclear war. Thats why i personally believe we should renegotiate the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 to beef it up. The Outer Space Treaty is 50 years old. Its way out of date. What does it say . It says two things. First, no Nuclear Weapons in space and, two, no one can put a flag on the moon and say i own the moon. However, now we have nonnuclear satellite killer tech none, laser cannon, Kinetic Energy weapons that can blind, blind the enemy in the opening seconds of technologically blind . Thats right. Thats why we think there should be a new Outer Space Treaty of 1967 to regulate warfare which may break out in outer space and could eisley spiral out of control. Is anybody talking about war breaking out in outer space . Thats on the agenda of every nation reading the words of the president is how far will this go with this space force . Now, if its just a cop on The Block Regulating Traffic in space, thats one thing. But if it goes to war, think about it, all nations rely upon outer space for their economy, for communications. It would create havoc if war were to break out in space. Were talking about war breaking out in outer space
because the president of the United States is talking about a space force to guard against a war breaking out in outer space . So, weve been talking about this war breaking out in outer space if the United States under President Trump werent talking about building a space force. First, lets not be naive. The chinese, the russians, theyve all been working on killer Satellite Technology secretly. 11 years ago the chinese had blew one of their own satellites out just to prove they can do it. The russians even announced just recently that they are working on laser cannons, that in principle could knock out a satellite. You were saying before we went on that there are laser cannons, but theyre not really theyre not really effective. Were working on lasers that go shiptoship, for example, in shiptoship warfare. Close range contact with the enemy. However, to knock out a satellite in outer space takes a whole other range of technologies. Lets face it, the super powers
are working on these kind of technologies. I wish we had more time because ive got all sorts of questions. Were talking lasers. I was wondering, what happens if you shoot a gun in space . What happens to the bullet . First of all, the bullet does fire. It depends if you have enough oxidizer to get the Chemical Reaction going. If you fire a gun inside a rocket ship, you can kiss your butt goodbye. Goodbye, michio. Thank you, michio, for being here. This was great. Drive safely. But allstate actually helps you drive safely. With drivewise. It lets you know when you go too fast. And brake too hard. With feedback to help you drive safer. Giving you the power to actually lower your cost. Unfortunately, it cant do anything about that. Now that you know the truth. Are you in good hands . Ive been Making Blades here at gillette for 20 years. Theres a lot of innovation that goes into making americas 1 shave. Precision machinery and highquality materials from around the world. Nobody else even comes close. Now starting at 7. 99. Gillette. The best a man can get. [ Crowd Chanting ] welcome back. Im Jonathan Capehart in for joy reid. It was a year ago today we saw White Nationalists carrying Tiki Toe Torches and chanting hate messages on the streets Of Charlottesville, and the next day a rally against the removal of confederates ended in violence. Heather heyer was killed when a man drove his car into the crowd. On this anniversary, charlottesville is taking no chances. Organizers of the Unite The Right rally are taking to the streets again, but this time theyre planning to demonstrate in washington, d. C. , right
across from the white house with former kkk leader among the invitees. Once again, theyll be met by counterdemonstrations. Muirial bowser, the mayor of washington, d. C. , says the city is on high alert. On sunday we know that we have people coming to our city for the sole purpose of spewing hate. It didnt make sense last year and it Doesnt Make Sense now. We, the people of washington, d. C. , say unequivocally that we denounce hate, we denounce antisemitism and we denounce the rhetoric that we expect to hear this sunday. Joining me now, msnbc National Reporter trymaine lee who has a new documentary called stone ghosts and jason johnson, whos in charlottesville, richard cohen, and Senior Adviser for
moveon. Org. We just heard coming into this segment from washington, d. C. , mayor muirial bowser. Lets hear from the charlottesville mayor walker. The deepseeded racism has been a major problem and still remains a problem in charlottesville. The notion that we were talking about outsiders invading and not talking about, you know, two uva alum who called people into our town to reek havoc and were joined by some people who live here. Thats the message that i hope people are well aware of. Charlottesville is a really harmful place if you are black, hispanic and low income and white. Richard, let me come to you first, being at the southern poverty law center. What kind of changes have we seen in america when it comes to
hate in the year since charlottesville. Weve seen a lot of the members of the Unite The Right fallen on hard times, taken off the internet, facing lawsuits, arrests. Weve seen a lot of energy from the far right move to the northwest with groups like the proud boys. So, you know, today i dont expect there to be anything like we saw in charlottesville a year ago and im less concerned with what happens outside of the white house, quite frankly, than i am concerned with what happens inside when it comes to White Nationalism. Jason, youre in charlottesville. Can you give me a sense of theres a State Of Emergency thats been declared through monday. Whats the mood, the sense you get on the streets there . There are police everywhere, jonathan. It reminds me of going to the funeral for Clemente Pinkney several years ago in charleston,
south carolina. There are police on every corner, volunteers at every corner. I can tell you as a black man, this is the nicest ive seen police treat me and im a uva alum. The sense, if you just talk to the people who are here, its one of sorrow. And ive talked to lots of people who are faculty and students and people who have been a part of the Charlottesville Community and theyre saying even after a year, even with the discussions were having, we dont know how to tell people to come back to this city. Theres a huge contrast in the sort of selfreflection im seeing for many white people in charlottesville compared to the object s fury i saw in ferguson. Thats a good point. A poll out by quinnipiac from june 27th to july 1st asked people whether they thought President Trump emboldens racist people to express their beliefs. You see there well, i think it just flipped. Its 55 believed president
trump emboldens racism. You see there 49 of people from that same poll believe President Trump is racist. I wrote a piece last week saying, yes, donald trump, you are racist. What does it say about america a year after charlottesville that we have a president , despite the tweet he sent out this morning saying acknowledging the anniversary that we have a president who gives license to White Supremacists to not only express their beliefs openly but to march on the streets of an American City . Yeah, it means we have a dangerous president in the white house right now, who is, indeed, a white supremacist, a White Nationalist, whatever word phrase you want to use to call him. Theres also vox had an article that just came out recently about a report that shows that 11 million white americans think like altright. Those are numbers thats a big number. Thats incredibly concerning for where we are as a country. I also, jonathan, went to charlottesville this past week. One of the things that stuck out to me as i was listening to the mayor Of Charlottesville speak when she says charlottesville is dangerous for essentially people of color, brown and black people, is that right next to the courthouse there, theres a prominent statue of stonewall jackson. I went down there to talk to activists to see how things were going down there. Just think about it, if you are a person of color and youre going to the courthouse to get justice, you know, to figure out how to fix a problem ordeal with an issue, a legal issue, you have to pass by stonewall jackson. And that is the message that thats been given to the people Of Charlottesville. And i think that plays nationally as well as how people of color feel in this country. Trymaine, i want to show a piece from your documentary,
stone ghost. You talked to someone about this Auction Block that monument that is in town. Lets take a look at that and ill talk to you about it on the other side. Reporter what was it like growing up with that Auction Block right there on the corner . It was like an embarrassment. I dont need to see that block to know what the past was. It makes you mad because i can say that was my great grandpa, grandma, you bring them out on the boat and sell them. How do you moralize Something Like that . Its totally unfair and unreal that people can actually sit there and say that, were just saving history . No, what youre doing is spitting in our faces. Thats what youre doing. Thats really interesting because thats i had never heard of this slave rock, this monument. Were always talking about robert e. Lee, stonewall jackson, Jefferson Davis and these monuments and yet heres
something thats supposedly supposed to acknowledge a horror, but it doesnt really. Heres the thing. What we saw in charlottesville was sparked in defense of robert e. Lee, a statue, but we knew it was more than a statue or monument. Its a proxy for white power, white the supremacy. There are artifacts all across the country, like that Auction Block, which is an actual Auction Block where human beings were bought and sold in this community by people in this community for 100 years. People walk down that street and its a reminder of how they were dehumanized by people in this community. There was a debate on city council. They voted 61 to keep the block there for educational purposes. The Lone Black Dissenting Vote was the only black City Councilman on the council. Beyond the big statues, in fair view, kentucky, where Jefferson Davis was born, you have the statues of robert e. Lee and Jefferson Davis and then things baked into the fabric of our communities that are sheer
reminders of just what happened to so many of us in this country. Did you mitch landrieu, when he was the mayor of new orleans and caught all sorts of hell when he removed, i think, three statues and one monument there in the Crescent City gave an incredible speech about history and the myth of the lost cause and how this reverence for this lost cause has blinded people to history. Youre going down into Southern States are people from from what you saw, are people still blinded by history . Their understanding of history and The Civil War and by large measure Race Relations is shaped by that lost cause propaganda. Early on the doors of the confederate veterans and other groups sympathetic to the confederacy took control of local School Boards to make sure when their children were taught
would set the stage for generations. You get a whole generation of politicians supporting segregation and other racist policies. The people on the ground in rural areas and in the cities still believe The Civil War was more about sovereignty and states rights than slavery. Theyll continue almost to a person. They say black own slaves too. There were white slaves. They dont understand servitude to indentured slavery. If you talk to them or visit local museums, the framing of the entire civil war, The Black Confederates Who Fought For the confederates, the mythology thats been shaped by Early Propaganda Pervades today. Richard, youre in montgomery, alabama, youre right there in the cradle of the confederacy. Talk more about that. I think the phenomenon that your prior guest spoke to is very, very real. Id also point out something else. After nikki haley took down the
confederate flag in the capitol in south carolina, we saw 300 confederate proconfederate frag rallies around the country. They were concentrated but not limited to the south. We saw rallies in oregon, the state of washington, pennsylvania. Those rallies were expression of white pride. Right now we have about 1700 monuments, street names and even the names of Military Bases after socalled confederate war heroes. So, the problem, i think, is concentrated in the south but not limited to it by any means. Right. Jason, give me your yeah. Go ahead. I was going to say, in all of this, as were going through what i think is an important History Lesson about where these monuments are and how they affect us today, all of this has to be placed directly in the lap of the president of the United States. Donald trump is a terrorist sympathizer. You cannot be a White Nationalist and not you cant
accomplish White National ichl in america without violence. The president has increasingly coddled and supported verbally and in policy terrorists. I think to the degree we talk about racism, thats fine, right . Racism can go over peoples heads. This is terror. There was a Terror Attack in charlottesville. Its 2018 and weve got nazis marching on the capitol of our country and our president doesnt do anything about it. So, until we start viewing this as a Terror Attack, a slowmoving Terror Attack encouraged by the president of the United States, i think well be missing the boat on how dangerous this behavior is. Karine, i asked you this question in an unrelated block last hour, but again, it comes back to if the president of the United States is not going to speak out against terror, is the way i think jason accurately puts it, that puts the onus on the coequal branch of government, congress, which is controlled by the president s party. Yet we have heard nothing from the speaker of the house, paul
ryan, or from the Senate Majority leader, Mitch Mcconnell. Right. Thats exactly what were talking about. Earlier you have a party who is supposed to be about Family Values and patriotism, who are doing everything that they can to seemingly, at least on the house side, not get to the bottom of what happened with russia attacking our elections or not stopping or taking real action or even try to censure the president after his comments a year ago. Its really appalling. And so thats why november is incredibly important. This is why people need to come out and vote. This is why democrats need to take back the house. Thats the only way well see a guardrail, you know, stopgap to this Runaway Train that is the Trump Administration. I know were running out of time but i want to play one more piece from trymaines documentary stone ghost. If you dont have some type
of proof, being a generation from now, youll have people arguing it and it may just vanish. But considering that for a great number of people in this country, those things represent deep trauma and great violence against people. But havent we got beyond that. Well all right. How many People Living in America Today were slaves . How many people live in America Today own slaves . Its roughly zero. So, we should have got beyond that. But we dont have i think myself as an example, we dont have our last names, our religion, this tongue were speaking with this is not my native language either. But you have great benefit. Everybody in america has a benefit. Its the greatest country in the world. But not everyone has the benefit of slavery,y e correct . Everybody living in America Today has a great opportunity the people of african descent, descend ants of
afternoafrican slaves, what benefit did they get . Theyre here. Thank you for that. To hear him say, theyre here the idea, this is the mythology and romance around the lost cause and what these symbols represent, that we were better off under slavery. That america is the greatest because of those virtues sewn in the early days. Its incredible that in 2018 that were still having this conversation, still having to educate people, still having to remind people that even though there arent slaves here or people who own slaves who are still alive, that the vestiges of slavery, the vestiges of stealing people from their native land, forcing them to create a country and then shunting them aside once they were emancipated, that there is something morally wrong with that and that has to be reckoned with. I have to leave my little sermon
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because she alwayss also represented edy windsor in the Supreme Court case that led to all the state and federal laws for samesex marriage. Thank you for coming in and talking about this. A year later were all talking about charlottesville. Judge norman moons conclusion was plaintiffs have for the most part adequately alleged that the defendants formed a conspiracy to hurt black and jewish individuals and their supporters because of their race at the august 11th and 12th events. You werent surprised that the plaintiff that by this result or that the plaintiffs had standing . No, i wasnt surprised. I think i was we were all very pleased by how incredibly comprehensive and careful a job judge moon did. We were very pleased by the fact that he effectively rebutted their two biggest defenses of
people like Jason Kessler and others. Jason kessler is organizing the rally in d. C. Today. One, we have an absolute right to do this. Its complete free speech, were protected by the First Amendment. Judge moon said to that, thats silly. You have a free speech right but you dont have a free speech right to plan a violent conspiracy, to plan a mob, committing violence, to plan a bank robbery. Its no different than planning a bank robbery. So, he took care of that. Their second defense was or second argument was, well, even if we really did say that stuff and even if we really didnt mean it, your honor, we didnt intend for anyone to run over people, to drive into a crowd and hurt anyone with a car. We were talking about sticks and clubs and guns, but not cars. He said, it doesnt matter. If you intended to hurt people, which they did with guns and clubs, and tiki torches, the fact that someone used a car to
do it, youre still liable for it. Lets take a listen is is it a listen . No, full screen, this is from vox. The altright is going you have a week, bros, best spend it having four or five of your friends simulate jumping you. Go light, dont get injured before the event. Theres another one, im ready to crack skulls. Another one, lets make this channel great again. The carolinas kind of started the revolutionary war and The Civil War, so why not add the race war Second Civil War to the list . This is happening on a gamer app where theyre having these conversations. Theyre planning planning violence. Absolutely. Its scary stuff. We just won another motion last week, which is crucial to the case. We subpoenaed discord. We have a bunch of these chats because some of them were released online. But we dont have all of them. We served a subpoenaed to get all of them. A woman by the name or handle, i dont know who she is, by the handle of crystalknight, which is based on german pilgrim that happened against jews in nazi germany in 1938. Using that handle she used that to quash the subpoena, saying she didnt want her identity to be known. The judge denied that so well get a bunch of stuff very soon. Lets show that full screen. This comes from the ap, the judge, u. S. Magistrate judge sparrows. Le 28page order says the womans First Amendment rights to free speech dont outweigh the importance of disclosing her identity to plaintiffs attorneys suing over the rallys violence. Thats once again making it clear that the right to free
speech in the First Amendment is not absolutely youre not shielded from any kind of protection or prosecution. Right. Obviously, when people commit crimes, they talk about crimes before they do it. All that speech preparing and planning for the crime, none of that is protected. Judges and juries and prosecutors admit that in Court Every Single Day in this country. Its a very simple proposition and thats what the court held here. How hard was it for you to get some of the victims of the charlottesville onto this lawsuit . I have to say, the courage of the peoples, marcus, you saw in the picture, and marissa, who you saw, who got married in the spring, really continues to astound me. They not only had the bravery to show up on august 11th and 12th and get hurt and continue to be in the picture and be the target of really horrible, horrible
stuff on the dark web every day. They all said to a person that they wanted to fight back the right way. The right way to fight back in this country is not with Sticks And Stones and guns and cars, speeding cars, its to do so in court under the law, with judges and juries. To a person, every single one of them wanted to do that to get justice. Robbie, thank you for the work youre doing. Thank you. Up next, omarosa spills all the tea. Ooh, heaven is a place on earth uhp. I didnt believe it. Again. Ooh, baby, do you know what thats worth . I want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ooh im not hearing the confidence. Okay, hold the name your price tool. Power of options based on your budget and well make heaven a place on earth yeah oh, my angels ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ]
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from behind the closed doors of the trump white house. The former white house aide who initially said she voluntarily vacated her position, but the white house said she was fired, has laid out details in her new memorial unhinged. She spills the tea on everything from what she calls trumps racist language to the hush money she says she was offered to keep quiet. Back with me is republican strategist evan siegfried, and karine juanpierre. Im coming to you after we play this epic clip of an interview that omarosa gave to npr about the controversy over the existence of tapes where then private citizen donald trump dropped the n word during celebrity apprentice. Lets take a listen to this. And once i heard it you have heard this tape . I have heard this tape. You heard the president of
the United States i heard the president of the United States use not only the nword but as bill pruitt described during that interview, other horrible things during the production of The Apprentice. You dont mention that in the book, that youve actually heard the tape. Is that new . No. Forgive me, though. That sounds like you just heard the account of the tape. Did you actually hear the tape . Did you miss the whole girl, did you read my book . Im sorry. It wasnt michelle martin, it was rachel martin. Karine, come on, now. Well, heres the thing. Lets be really clear of whats happening here. Omarosa is trying to sell her book. I mean, she basically says it in that back and forth. Girl, did you read my book . Please, read my book. Its in the book. I mention it in the book. I mean, heres the thing about
this. Omarosa has known donald trump now for, what, 14 years . She knew him when he jumped into the political arena in 2011 and was the grand wizard of the birther movement. She knew him and stood by him during the election when he actually kicked off his election going after mexicans, calling them rapist and drug dealers. Then she went into the white house and stood by him for a year after he repealed daca, he repealed tps and also and also just tried to ban an entire religion. So, now the surprise of hearing the n word on a tape and letting us know, oh, by the way, hes a racist and bigot, which we already knew, its just a little bit kind of amazing. Like i said, shes trying to sell a book. So, you know, in august of 2015, in this very studio, the
saturday after trump appeared in his first president ial debate during the republican primary, we brought in our own trump whisperer, omarosa. We flew her in from california and she had this to say. Are you surprised by anything that happened on that debate stage thursday . Im not surprised at all. That first moment set the tone that he was a true leader that could not be controlled, manipulated or bought. Do you think its a good thing or a bad thing that Reality Television and the ethos there is bleeding into president ial politics . Bleeding into it . When you have a big Reality Tv Star, as the frontrunner for the republican nomination, theres no way to separate it. This is the new reality. Shes not lying. Shes not. She didnt lie then. For me, that was the single most important interview i did in terms of understanding donald trump. And that host was great, whoever that interviewer was. First of all, Sarah Huckabee sanders said the book is filled with lies and false accusations. I dont know where the bombshell comes from the fact that hes racist and hes sexist. Shed have to write a book. They would have to put his Campaign Rally speeches in a book and we could have read it. Whats stunning is in private hes thoughtful and compassionate. The man telling us that the reality of what weve been seeing through the media is the reality of donald trump is nothing new. He might have mental issues, he might be a racist, he might be a bigot. We know this. Its remarkable. Its remarkable, people are like, the books not being factchecked. I dont care about a book being factchecked by omarosa. This man lying daily is more important. Now karine said she would say anything to sell her book. Thats what its about. Lets talk about her credibility, evan. I mean, she did she said in this space, she had hillary
clinton tattooed on her left arm. Months later shes on the campaign trail. Months after that shes in the white house with some nebulous job as a white house official. Will people rally around omarosa . Of course not. Its probably the most republicans and democrats will agree all year, shes a grifter and a fraud star fraudster, excuse me. Fraud star is good, too. Remember, shes defending President Trump during the campaign and then during the white house. And everybody who is listening to her then said, shes lying. Shes doing it now. But there are some people who are saying, oh, clearly shes telling the truth because she like what shes saying. She was a liar then and liar now trying to salvage her career because she knows her Job Prospects are terrible. Remember when she decided to have a Bridal Party Photo shoot in the white house south lawn. The taxpayers paid for that because she was so all high
and mighty. She didnt do anything running the office much the public liaison. She was an incompetent aide and now shes trying to cash in. She cant even get her facts straight in the npr interview where she says, oh, yeah, i wrote about it in my book but the book says she never heard the tapes directly. Why should we trust her . I Wouldnt Trust her to walk across the street. Thats why donald trump hired her. Its the combination of last year. He surrounds himself with people he likes, the Culture Of Corruption, lies of omarosa, ethical violations. This is donald trump, why not have omarosa around you, michael flynn, Paul Manafort, rick gates, the whole crew there. This is where we are. I dont care if she has no credibility. This is fodder, this is fun. Look at the money michael wolf made, millions of dollars. Millions of dollars in writing his book. In is just a payday for keeping her in the media. One important point that came out of this entire story that i think people are missing. The Washington Post reported yesterday that omarosa was offered by Layer Raleigh trump a
15,000 a month contract by the Trump Campaign to keep silent. This the same amount of money keith schiller, oval office operations, was offered. Whats going on here . Is this shady hush money . Is the rnc and campaign being used for that . I dont know. I think youre asking a rhetorical question. Omarosa famously said this on front line on pbs that set the world afire at that time. Im wondering, what does she think about it now . Lets take a look at that. Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to President Trump. Its everyone whos ever doubted donald, whoever disagreed, whoever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe. I mean, i didnt know she was talking about putin, but, karine, shes going to have to
live down those words, or maybe bow down to those words. I dont think it really matters to her. She knows exactly what she signed up for. Its reality tv. She knew that she was a character. She was kind of reliving the villain role in The Apprentice and now in the presidency. She knew what she needed to do to get to stay close to tth trump and she did it. I think the thing i want to see, and lets see if it happens, the omarosa tweets from the Trump Twitter feed. Like, are they coming . Im looking to see what hes going to say about this book. I like i dont know. One of the best parts of the book is she walked in and donald trump was eating paper off his desk. Im not exaggerating. Literally eating paper off his desk. They denied that. When the white house has to deny that the president is eating paper off his desk, this is where we are in 2018. I think the book has caught white house to put out a factual statement saying, omarosa is lying. Keep talking i was going to say also, i mean, we saw her in her time in
addition to that Bridal Party Photo shoot in the white house, she sent a letter in august of last year to the Congressional Black Caucus where she referred to herself as the honorable omarosa. Shes all about the celebrity. When everybody looks at her and laugh because shes a rather pathetic human being and its showing right now. Dont forget about the big dustup she had with urban radio and that whole row. The white house statement says, instead of telling the truth about all the good President Trump and his administration are doing to make america safe and prospero prosperous, this oh, it says, a disgruntled former white house employee is trying to profit off these false attacks and whats worse is the media would give her a platform after not taking her seriously when she had only
positive things to say about the president during her time in the administration, Sarah Huckabee sanders. If the book is filled with lies and false accusations, its true. She captured the white house kregt. About profiting off the white house, what donald trump has done. Omarosa, the one thing she did say about The Apprentice tapes, tom arnold, after the election before trump was sworn in, said there were apprentice tapes where trump used the n word. Maybe through all maybe they actually exist. Maybe they do come out at some point. I mean, this is a shiny object moment. Were talking about a Reality Tv Star who no one took seriously during the campaign. No one really took seriously when she was in the white house. No one took seriously when she was personally escorted off white house grounds after trying to get into the private residence. Lets talk about what kind of
hub huberous that takes to march up to the president s personal quarters, to put out a book who has credibility issues. I mean go ahead. Im giving you the last word since youre remote. I was going to say, welcome to the trump presidency. I have is to Say Something about the statement of Sarah Sanders and the irony of it all, that its coming from Sarah Sanders who lies constantly behind the podium. Every day that she does a press briefing. Its just remarkable. This really just encapsulates the Trump Administration as we know it to be. I read that statement and i thought, child, please. Yeah, exactly, child, please. Thats it exactly. On that note, thank you. Omarosa, however, is going to be doing the rounds to promote her new book. You can catch her on nbc tomorrow on Meet The Press and then on monday she will be right here on msnbc on hardball at
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it seems unlikely, raised by a single mom. From Community College to the ivy league. From a waitress to the white house. Im Sharice Davids and its my story. Because even when i didnt have much, i had opportunity. But today, too many dont. And washington wont change that, thats why im running for congress. Im Sharice Davids, i approve this message because opportunity starts with good schools, Affordable Health care and safety communities. Shrice davids just won a crowded democratic primary. If she wins in november shell also be the openly gay nativeamerican woman to be elected to congress. While her district may be small it contains kansas city and its
suburbs. The Cook Political Report is now calling it a tossup district. Hillary clinton squeaked out a victory here in 2016 with a margin of just one point. And Sharice Davids joins us now. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks for having me. Im excited. President trump has already endorsed your opponent. I want to read it here. Thank you to congressman kevin yoder, he secured 5 billion for border security. Now we need congress to support. Kevin has been strong on crime, the board and loves the mill vary and vets. He has my full and total endorsement. How helpful or hurtful is it to have President Trump injectsing himself into your race for your campaign . You know, honestly, i think that one of the things we need in the Third District and what we havent had up to this point
with kevin yoder is a representative who is fighting for the agenda of the Third District. And i dont think its helpful to have the president , or anyone else from outside this district saying that kevin yoder is fighting for his agenda. Or anyone elses agenda. He needs to be fighting for the agenda of the Third District. As youre campaigning, are you hearing from people who might say i like what youre saying, but i want somebody whos going to be in washington who supports the president. Is president front of mind for people . Or is it other things . Yeah, the president is not a primary topic that im hearing from people, you know. As i go around and i have meet and greets. And were talking on doors and talking to folks. But the primary thing im hearing is health care. Theres too many people concerned what theyre going to do if they get sick. Or they dont have health
insurance or struggling with health premiums. The things that people are concerned about are not president of the United States, its how are we going to improve opportunity for folks here. Again, the president sent out that tweet injecting himself into your race. Im sure between now and election day hes going to do it again in that tweet, he talked about border security. When you have constituents future constituents, potential constituents, who might say, well, what are you going to do about the borders . What are you going to do about immigration . What answer do you have for them . You know, really, i think one of the things that so many people have expressed to me in my conversations with folks here is that, what is happening right now at the border and what has happened with Family Separation is appalling. And i have not met anyone in the Third District that i talked to who is not completely appalled by whats been going on. And i dont think that theyre
satisfied with the way kevin yoder has failed to act. You know, he hasnt done anything. He sits as the chair of the subcommittee of homeland security. And he hasnt done anything except send a letter to the attorney general. And that is action. We need action and kevin yoder isnt doing that. You know, he attacked you on the tuesday before you won the primary saying you lacked kansas values Kansas City StarEditorial Board responded saying, we hope he Wasnt Talking About the fact that shed be the first nativeamerican woman elected to congress and the first lgbt person to represent kansas. You lack kansas values thats the way i heard the editorials boards response, was my response. Is that what you heard from him when he said you lacked kansas values . I guess the thing i was hoping he Wasnt Talking About was the fact that im trying to
make sure ithat as many people have opportunity like i have. With education or health care, if thats not kansas value, then i think kevin yoder is clearly misguided and doesnt understand kansas values himself. Were going to have you back when weve got a lot more time. Thank you, Sharice Davids, for coming on the show. Thank you so much. More am joy after the break. Are you ready to take your wifi to the next level