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Income that he received from russian affiliated companies. Flynndded the details of those paymts to a Second Amended version of that form that he signed on friday. And joining me how is illinois congressman mike quigley. Lets start with that amended filing. Why is it tham Michael Flynn, who is now out of government, had to file an amended disclosure form about his finances . Well, regardless, it still goes to the original filing. He has to be truthful in that. I dont know the particular rules and ethics requirements, but just because you leave government doesnt mean the requirements still werent there in the first place and dont stand with you as time goes on. We now understand a little bit more about why the general was speaking immunity. Lets go into just a little bit more about what was known about Michael Flynn at the time that he was hired to be Donald Trumps National Security advisor. We know that there were concerns about him that were raised by the acting attorney general at the time, salaryuat sally ya. The guardian is reporting information in addition to the payments he received from rt, payments for speeches in moscow, doing work for the government of turk turkey, there were contacts potentially with a person who is affiliated with the russian gru with a russian graduate student who flynn met on a trip to cambridge. He invited her to accompany him on his next official trip to moscow to help with simultaneous translation and the guardian is saying that flynn and her remained in email contact conducted through an unclassified channel. In one of his emails he perefe himself as general mischa, et cetera. Let me tell you. What i was first concerned about was the fact that general flynn had been fired by a Previous Administration for just these kind of problems. Some of nuances that you are going into is work that the committee is investigating right now, the documents were looking at. As we go forward people that we interview. It is difficult for me to remember which field comes from what was open source and closed source. But ill just tell you unfortunately general flynn is Fertile Ground for investigations russian influence into the democratic process. We are going to take our time. We are not going to prejudge, but i assure you, when i was asked who do you want to testify first, who would help you understand most if they testified fully and completely, and general flynn was my first guest. And on the question of his testimony, the Ranking Member of your committee, congressman adam schiff earlier expressed spent schi skepttism that he would do so. Lets let you listen to that. The skepticism is well need to consult with the Justice Department. We dont want to do anything that will interfere in any case that the Justice Department may decide to bring. We also have to determine whether he really can add value to our investigation, whether we need him to learn information we cant learn from other sources. And, sir, the Senate Intelligence committee has already indicated they are not open to the idea at this time of giving Michael Flynn immunity to testify. To your knowledge, is the house more open to that idea . Oh, i dont think so. I think Ranking Member schiff raised an important point there. We would need what we call proffer. What is it exactly he anticipates to testify to . We would have to work with our senate colleagues. We would have to work with the Justice Department to make sure that were not stepping on their investigation because that investigation, again, wouldnt necessarily involve just general flynn but everything in this investigation is tied to everything else. Its extraordinary complicated, intertwined. So there is no rush to do this. I anticipate at some point in time general flynn will be before us. I think at this time he probably recognizes it makes sense for him to come forward. Well have to see. And lastly, sir, do you have confidence in the chairman of your committee, chairman nunes . Ill say this. Chairman nunes ran an extraordinarily fair process through the first part of his term. The first two years under this chairman i think hes done a great job. Its been difficult obviously under this president. I think he has conflicts intern internally. We have to recognize, though, hes not stepping down. The only other person that could make him step down is the speaker of the house. He has said he wont do that. So we have to Work Together at this point. Chairman nunes has to realize he cant serve two masters. He has to do this investigation impartially to maintain its credibility. So we have to trust each other. We have to move forward. But we cant have any more midnight excursions. We cant have any more distractions. We cant cancel any more public hearings on this matter. So much of it is in the chairmans hands. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you. And joining me now is the White House Correspondent for politico, Washington Bureau chief and former pentagon official. Lets jump right into it. You heard congressman mike quigley saying the only person that could remove nunes is the speaker of the house. You had jackie spears say absolutely not. She has expressed a complete lack of confidence in him. From your reporting, does nunes survive . I think he will survive as long as there are no theres no further reporting of more links between him and the white house. I think his credibility has been greatly damaged and he needs to show that hes aggressive about this investigation, that hes not partisan and hes not carrying the water for the white house. But, i mean, if speaker rhinoing what he knows about the fact that he went into the white house retrieved information from white house officials, presented it as if it was independent information for a press conference that supported the president s claims that other officials have completely dismissed and he still thinks he could stay on, i think that he would need to do i know. Maybe there needs to be more information of complicity with the white house, but for now, at the end of the day, it is the speaker of the houses decision and he doesnt think that is enough. David corn is laughing at the idea. Why are you laughing . Im not laughing at tara because i love tara and her reporting. I am laughing at the whole investigation. This investigation i think is shot. It is done. It is a dead parrot. It is not alive. And i dont see how it gets back on track. I mean, you know, imagine what nunes would have to do at this point to show his independence from trump and the Republican Party and from the cover up or the stone wall, the disstrtract that the white house has been able to mount. Every time hes had a chance in the last week and a half hes blown that opportunity. So i feel bad for adam schiff because i think he would like to have the investigation move forward. But at this point anyone that nunes does from here on in is 100 suspect. I feel bad about that because we need the congressional Intelligence Committees to do effective oversight overall and particularly on the russian trump scandal. I think there have been other members of the house representatives who expressed a lack of confidence. Jackie spears the first to come out. I want to play you guys what adam schiff had to say about the Central Point here, which is the white houses own role in proffering that information to nunes that he turned around and proffered back to them. Heres adam schiff earlier on cnn. First the Deputy Assistant to the white house informed me when i went to see them that these are exactly the same materials that were shown to the chairman. Now, this is a very interesting point. How does the white house know that these are the same materials that were shown to the chairman if the white house wasnt aware what the chairman was being shown. Rosa brooks, your answer to that question . I think never underestimate the role of stupidity. Thats what this is a story about. I think this is not necessarily a vast conspiracy. Although, you never know. I think this is a bunch of overzealous staffers thinking they are doing the president a favor. I think this is nunes liking the cloak and dagger aspects of rushing off to the white house to view secret documents and mouthing off about it and now theyre all trapped in this web they created. The credibility of the house investigation at this point is absolutely shot. Luckily, that isnt the only investigation on the senate side, the snooenate intelligenc committee seems to be a more serious options. We interviewed leader pelosi yesterday. We aired that interview yesterday on this program and she said the same thing. Lets listen to leader pelosi talking about the nunes investigation. Do you think he has credibility now as the leader of that investigation . No. I think he not only has lost all credibility, i think hes tarnished the office he holds. Hes brought discredit to something that is a very, very serious position in the congress. We dont know what the conversation was with the speaker, but if the guidance was go to the president and then go to the press, that was very wrong. Pretty definite. Youre starting to see what looks like the movement of some people connected to mike flynn out of their positions. We have just learned that k. T. Mcfar land will no longer be in her position. Shes being offered a u. S. Am b bass doorship to singapore. Honestly, i have been hearing rumbling about k. T. Being removed from her role since mike flynn was removed. Thats why dina powell ended up getting the deputy position, which politico reported on last month. Its a little suspect when you have a new boss who brings on a new deputy. You have two deputies. Whos the boss . Im not surprised to hear this. I have heard from staffers internally that she was considered to be a lightweight and seemed to be a little too politicized in some ways and not carrying her weight. So not surprised to hear about this. Have been hearing rumbling for a while, but her connections to flynn make her toxic. Why is it that mr. Cohen seems to be the only improvable object . You have to ask yourself what did the people of singapore do to deserve this . Sorry, from half of america, we ae poll guise singapore. This is what is sad, joy, what is the number one job of the government . To protect the American People. In the white house, who has that responsibility . The National Security council and staff. It has been a mess from the beginning. Donald trump hired flynn to do this job and he didnt last more than a couple weeks. There are people there, such as the folks that played around with nunes on that midnight run and theyre still there. It is not just it is confidence and they got caught up. Its been lying. Sean spicer has been out there lying about what the nsc did and didnt do in this instance. The fact they cant get the National Security Advisors Office straight is really troubling. Is this what people worried about when they talked about the plitization of the nsc by mr. Bannon . Absolutely. There is an internal war i think is going on and that war is between the grown ups and there are a few of them at the nsc. Hes not a partisan guy. Rumor has it he has been trying to out the people that are political hacks. Hes obviously working against the bannon way and well see how that turns out. I think as david says, the depressing thing is this is not just some kind of reality show. This is actually americas National Security were playing games with. Lets hope the grown ups prevail. We shall see. Thank you very much. When we come back, what incentive could trump possibly have to team up with the russians anyway . The not to secret answer when we return. O secret answer when we return. So secret answer when we return. Sosecret answer when we return. If you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture. I can tell you prolia® is proven to help protect bones from fracture. But the real proof . My doctor said prolia® helped my bones get stronger. Are your bones getting stronger do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. Serious allergic reactions, such as low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip, or tongue swelling; rash, itching or hives have happened in people taking prolia®. 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In covering any political scandal, step one is always follow the money. When it comes to trump, why would an alleged billionaire need more money . The answer extreme debt. Lets review trumps financial history. After trump tower was built in 1983, donald trump went on a spendi ining spree. He opened trump hotel and casino in 1980. Then trumps castle. Maralago, the trump air shuttle, the trump Princess Yacht and the Atlantic City taj mahal. But then his finances took a nose dive. He had immassed debt. They owed billions of dollars to 72 banks. Trumps net worth dropped from 1. 7 billion to less than 500 million in one year, expelling him from forbes list of the worlds richest people. In the early 1990s, the taj mahal and trump castle all filed for bankruptcy, breaking trumps high stakes monopoly board. Trump declared a 916 million loss on his income taxes in 1995. And, yet, by 2005, he had managed to build his net worth up to 2. 6 billion, making it back on to the forbes list. Trump would have needed big money to fund his comeback. But as the wall street journal has reported, most wall street banks were not offering credit to the famous debtor. Trump and his companies repeatedly turned to wealthy russians, many of whom are alleged to have ties to organized crime. As trump himself said in 2013 after a meeting with potential investors in mos kau, i have a great relationship with Many Russians and almost all of the olagarks with the room. David johnson and roan derell w. Thank you for being here because you did have this piece in usa today. What are the big findings you have in terms of how russian to la garks helped to rebuild. We found a lot of Donald Trumps condos were bought my wealthy russians. We also found there was multiple people who were involved in the development of the trump Soho Properties and some of the other properties that had tied to organized crime and we found that this was a pattern that continued through several of these sales. And, david, you have been reporting on this for a long time. Donald trump and rebuilding his financial, you know, straits through russian mob tied people. How and why did he do that and who are some of the big players in that . Well, donald has counted by his own account on russians for a great deal of money. The easiest case to understand is one of the russian ol garks who paid donald an extraordinary price, 95 million plus a commission for a piece of property near maralago donald acquired three and a half years earlier. What made that significant, joy, is that at the time donald trump was arguing he shouldnt have to pay a 40 million loan back because the u. S. Real estate market was dead. It was an act of god and he should have been forgiven this 40 million debt and suddenly here comes this guy that overpays by 50 million the value of the property. If donald had been a city council men in florida, the newspapers would have been all over this and said is this a pay off. And Deutsche Bank comes up over and over again as the last bank that was willing to lend to donald trump after u. S. Banks wouldnt do it anymore. Bloomberg had an article where they talked about how much he still owes to Deutsche Bank. He may have a 300 million debt to them. Yeah. And the other thing with the relationship with these banks is that he that everyone has to remember is that donald trump will take money from anybody. You know, you can replace russians with, you know, your ran yans. Any other country. This isnt about russia so much as about who was willing to give him money when he wanted it. I think mark cuban touched on this on twitter over the weekend. Hes an opportunist. Donald trump has sold several of his friends and the New York Times reported this, hes so frustrated he cant get out of this cloud, t rusa cloud. There is one easy way to do it. Release his own tax returns and his companys financial statements. That is something hes not going to do, but he continues to pursue Business Opportunities all around the world, right . And his son very famously said when he was interviewed back in 2008 that in terms of High Products influx into the United States russians make up a section of a lot of our assets in due bay and everywhere in new york, we see a lot of money pouring into russia. There is a lot of money coming in from new builds, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So russians essentially not only as lenders but as buyers. A lot of this couldnt be of much interest if donald trump werent president. I mean, this issue of, you know, money coming in from russia. This is Something Else part of the report that i wrote, is that these olly garks are tied in with the organized crime figures in russia and also with the russian state security services. And theyre tied in with those are all sort of tied in with the president of russia, vladimir putin. So the issue here isnt, you know, this is a matter of of Money Laundering and money coming in from russia that is obtained in nefarious ways sometimes. Right. And these are but the issue is that its such a large proportion of or potentially large portion of trumps portfolio is tied to these types of people who are beholden possibly to president putin. So you end up with an american president whose finances are under possibly under foreign influence. Thats why we really care about this. And not only Deutsche Bank having ties, but you also have the white house in a yahoo news article back out of a meeting. Canceling a meeting with a russian after learning he had mob ties. This is a problem of the image of that as well. Well, yes. But lets focus on the real substance of this here. As doran was saying, the russians are a government response sored network of international criminals. Donald is deeply in debt to Deutsche Bank, who has already been fined 20 billion, including 650 million fine. I think thats the number. For laundering 10 billion of russian money. The head of that bank, which was also deeply involved back when i was exposing illegal tax shelters in the United States, they were very deeply involved in financing it, moved to the bank of cyprus where a putin appointee where the number two guys on the board there and they chose this fellow. Donald continually does business with people who are directly connected back to putin. Yeah. And that is the reason that this is a huge headline. Thank you very much. And coming up, remember the debt ceiling . Well, the clock is ticking for congress again. Well discuss the hold up when we come back. Shes got that gorgeous 20something skin. Is it dna or olay . New olay total effects fights seven signs of aging to help take years off of your skin age. Who needs dna when you have olay . New total effects. Amid shifting through all the trumprussianunes news, we want to talk about Something Real and scary on the horizon, the devastating economic crisis we may be facing when the government runs out of money. The trump budget and the debt ceiling, he files this report. Reporter there are two freight trains racing toward each other at high speed, the bu budget and the debt ceiling. A document so draconian it likely will go the way of the American Health care act, meaning nowhere. But the big task will be raising the legal limit on federal borrowing. That would be the second train and you know it as the debt ceiling. This is where the treasury secretary stands on the debt ceiling. We have spent the money. I think everybody understands, whether youre republican or democrat, we need to raise the debt limit and thats something were going to do. But President Donald Trump doesnt share such clarity. This is what he said on the campaign trail. I would be strong on the debt limit and i would be asking for a big pound of flesh if i were the republicans. Now, here is where those freight training come in. The house and senate must devise, debate and pass a new budget before october 2nd. If the debt ceiling isnt raised by the start of the fiscal year, a day will come when the government wont be able to borrow money to pay all of its financial obligations. The policy center calls this the x date and projects it could hit sometime between october and november. To be more specific, the bpc projects that x date could also be october 2nd. But the more important date might be april 18th, tax day. If the treasury takes in less than expected, those two freight trains could slam into each other sooner than anticipated and congress not is not ready for the Economic Disaster that would follow. You can bet on this, if or when the trains do collide, it will be far messier than this. And when we come back, jonathan and my panel will discuss. 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So will they make it. Joining me now kath ryan rampell, matt welch and jonathan who voiced that amazing package we just somehow. Jonathan, excellent job as i call you my cohost and chief washington correspondent. I will go to you first. I like it. So what are the issues dividing the Republican Congress over the raising the debt ceiling . It is really the idea of raising the debt ceiling. The thing to keep in mind here, joy, is the Freedom Caucus that helped do in the America Health care act are the very people who are dead set against raising the debt ceiling in 2011, who were all about shutting down the government in 2013 and are poised to do the some thing again. Here is the key thing to keep in mind. One of the members of the house Freedom Caucus is now the director of the office of management and budget. The person who is in charge of shepherding the budget through and he has been dead set on raising the debt ceiling. What you have been the Trump Administration is an omb director on record as saying we dont need to raise the debt ceiling unless we get something for it and a tresh you secretas on record saying without question the debt ceiling must be raised. And this is what you wrote about him in your op ed on this logic that he was concerned about mulvaneys nomination. He voted against increasing the debt limit four times, calling the potential for u. S. Default a fabricated crisis. Catherine during that package we were playing during the part when steve said we spent the money, everybody understands we have to raise the debt ceiling you kind of laughed. No. The president doesnt agree with this. President trump calls himself the king of debt. Remember, a large part of his being able to keep his company, his organization alive, was negotiating down his debt obligations. Or just not paying it. But that was part of it. I mean, the negotiation was im just not going to pay it. And even during the campaign he repeatedly said as you may recall something to the effect of, well, if the smi goes south i know we could make a deal on our debt and the Financial Press freaked out. You have trump not completely understand the fact you cannot negotiate down our debt payments without sparking a word crisis. You have mulvaney agreeing with him on all this, being cavalier about defaulting on our debt payments. There has never been a time i have been relieved to have a Goldman Sachs alumni in the white house. When donald trump had huge debts he could negotiate with the bank to keep maralago by turning it into in a private club and thats what he did. Why is there so many people who think you can . I kind of dispute that as a notion, right . I think the interest in both brink manship and conservative ship is inversely proportional to the amount of power they hold, which is when they dont have power, they are the biggest fiscal conservatives you will ever see and we have to attach conditions to the debt ceiling and reform spiteentitlements. That went away because the republicans took the senate so they waived the magic wand and said we dont have to talk about the debt ceiling. So they are not motivated. Mulvaney was sent by trump to crack the Freedom Caucuss heads. Unyou can sesful we are talking thre ining three people here and they are not motivated. They say trumps budget is a nonstarter here anyways. So i think we will see a lastminute must pass thing, support the troops and it will happen. Im not convinced the democrats are going to be adults in this situation either. You do have some threats have democrats that say they will be the ones to do some branks manship over cutting planned parenthood and going to the wire. Lets keep two things separate here, thats about the continuing resolution that expires on april 28th and is separate and apart from the debt ceiling. When the House Minority leader who you interviewed on the show yesterday, when she had a meeting with opinion writers on monday, i asked her the question, you know, what about the debt ceiling . What is your strategy . And she said a letter was being signed by the Democratic Caucus that will be going to speaker ryan telling him that they want a clean debt ceiling bill. Meaning a bill with no conditions, no attachments, nothing, a bill that raises the debt ceiling. Otherwise they are not playing ball. And john mccain, listen to what hes had to say as well. He told cnn on wednesday there is only one option. I will not vote for a cr, continuing resolution, no matt whatever the consequences because it destroys the ability of the military to defend the nation. So hes also playing brinks manship, too. The issue with the budget as well is these are also mustpass bills, which means they get a lot of annoying riders attached to them, whether its Defunding Planned Parenthood or funding for the mexican wall, et cetera. So you always have this hostage crisis. So the democrats said we want a clean bill or the majority says that and it never happens. Do you think there will be hostages taken or we will get a clean debt limit increase . I think well get a clean debt limit in the fall. We dont need to have that happen at the end of april. April will likely see a continuation of what he had last year, but with more money on the military because republicans are interested in cutting military back when they didnt hold power. Now they do, everybody wants to throw more money at the military so we will be spending more money under trump than under barack obama. One correction is it is over the funding of the wall, i believe. I think thats one of their other must not haves. Thank you. 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What is in why would you want to give out any of your personal information to a Faceless Corporation for the sole purpose of them selling it . Just last week, i bought underwear on the internet. Why should you know what size i take . Or the color. Or any of that information . Congressman mike capuano expressed how so many people felt after Congressional Republicans voted to roll back internet Privacy Protection set to take effect at the end of this year. The bill which donald trump is expected to sign leaves Internet Service providers free to sell your online data like your browsing history without your permission. Joining me now msnbc chief Legal Correspondent ari mel bert and minion clyburn. Commissioner clyburn, i want to start with you on this. This was congressman Steve Scalise tuesday on the house 42, justifying this vote. Take a listen. The internet was not broken and did not need the federal government to come in and try to fix it. The bottom line families deserve to be protected online with a set of robust and uniform Privacy Protections. These ruling simply do not live up to that standard. That the case, commissioner . The public does expect to be protected. And the Privacy Protections that the fcc put into place harmonize its protections with what the ftc is doing, and what the confurm privacy bill of rights has done. And so these rules that the public expects, they expect to have role over their personally identifiable information. The fcc sought that, we put that in place back in october. Were on the cusp of that being eliminated. Most intimate information including medical history. Your browsing history. Your Social Security numbers that could be halve vested and sold to the highest bidder. That is what is at risk. You know, ari, i want to explain to people what this all means. One of the sponsors of the bill, jeff flake argued that basically the rules put in place unfairly advantaged places like yahoo and facebook because it treated broadband differently. Most of the data gather said actually gathered by the socalled edge providers like google and facebook. And they arent touched by any of the fcc regulations at all. Can you explain all of that in lay mens terms . You want to get into this . Yes. The ftc and fcc have different legal mandates. So it is true broadly that theres differential treatment and if youre starting from scratch, you want it to be uniform. Right. However that is not some Privacy Protections and what this bill did was completely gut them. Think about the world we live in nowadays. You wouldnt say to someone come up in my home, sell the information you that find, you maybe dont take anything out of the underwear drawer to use the congressmans example. You write down the information, leave and then sell it. Nobody would make that deal. Most people, especially young people, the most important stuff you have is probably digital. Who you talk to, how you shop, how you book your web md all of this stuff is inherently individual because of the way we live our lives. This was to gut what was done its in obama era to rifle through that digitally and sell it. What do you get . Nothing. Yes, if youre starting from scratch you might harmonize fcc and ftc mumbo jumbo. It doesnt look like what anyone would do for key citizens. It looks as legally fairly as i can it looks like a thing you would do only for corporations. Commissioner, what is the definition of your new chairman for this . How do your fellow commissioners on the other side of this issue justify doing what ari melbourne just said,al allowing people to rifle through your personal data and sell it . They are claiming we have not harmonized rules with the ftc and other privacyoriented entities. And that is simply not true. What i take issue with congressman flake, he said an Internet Service provider has 100 knowledge over what you do. How you access the internet. What device you use. Edge providers those like google and facebook, they only have a snapshot of what you do. But your Internet Service provider knows everything about you. They know where you are when you are on line. When you access the internet. They know what device you used. They know what websites you visit. All of that information lets them into our lives. And if they have access to that information and more about every single digital footprint, everything we do online, everything we search, they can use, they can monitor and harvest that information and sell it to third parties and were at extreme danger. What if they were to sell that to your insurance company. That if they knew i was checking online at mcdonalds my insurance rates might go up because they might know that im not necessarily compliant with my diet. That may seem farfetched. It totally is not. What if they were to sell that to your employer and they have access to information that you might not want them. That could harm your economic standing. So, having access to that information, all of that information online, the history, especially when were talking about the internet of things when you can literally look into my refrigerator and see what im doing, that is going to let people look into your lives and do what they will with that information. And people saying we want to by the congressmens history. They work for us, the congress . This would be a fascinating thing. There could be laws to shame family people. Yeah, folks online on twitter someone suggesting a fundraising for it. The idea if this were just a good idea what if you went up into edges browsing history. To the commissioners point, yes, i dont think its anyones business. I want to first of all thank mignon clyburn, the commissioner but tonight, ari, growing up trump. Dmx said rapping 20 years, youre just 20 years old. That was his explanation for people too young in the game. We want to hear from young people, 20 somethings and new activists. So youre going to have basically say live focus group of Trump Supporters and resisters. Yeah, the new generation. Its going to be fascinating. The point, this is mustsee tv. Thank you, joy. Coming up, the Trump Administration could be on the verge of a civil war with the gop and what the trump familys lavish lifestyle is costing new yorkers and people in palm beach, florida. And were joined by Yvette Nicole brown with her new documentary. 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Ammash is responding to trumps earlier attack on the Freedom Caucus for the essential role they played in tanking one of trumps key Campaign Promises to repeal and replace bair. On thursday morning, the president tweeted the freak come cause will hurt the entire republican agenda if they dont get on the team and fast. We might fight them in 2018. The declaration of war with the most conservative wing formally known as the tea party prompts this response from asmash. It didnt take long for the swamp to drain real donald trump. No name. And then things got really ugly. Trump social media director dan ska vino took to twitter to summon the power of the trump train to challenge ammash in a primary challenge. They were the originally antigovernment, antiestablishment beloved by the gop base. They specialize in primary and sitting republicans. Remember eric cantor . Boom. Gone. Blah better way to show their cred that theyre tea parties and voters by publicly thwarting the most powerful person in the d. C. Establishments the president. Thats why ammash responded trump admin and establishment have merged in into trumpestablishment. Same old agenda attack conservatives, libertarians and independent thinkers. National republican consultant kate dawson and charlie seitz. All friends of the show. Our new friend, kristin, i do find it a bit strange that donald trump and his team, or donald trump is trying to cast the tea party as the establishments . Its going to make his life very difficult when it comes to midterms because donald trump was not popular with the conservative base during the primaries. And he had to really win them over and a lot of conservatives felt like they were holding their nose and vote fog donald trump. They said theyll overlook his political leanings and things that he said that they did not appreciate. Hes sawing away at his constituency that he worked hard to get. These caucus members are in very safe seats and if donald trump does try to primary or move the momentum that way, hes not going to be able to, because the Koch Brothers and several of their organizations have pledged eightfigure funds to support these guys. And now theyre incumbents and the Republican National convention, they have to support those men with their dollars. Caton dawson. Youre a good strategist. What could the possible Strategic Value be, if youre in a republican white house, of going to war with the most conservative republicans in your caucus . Its a waste of time, joy. Is what it is. These 33 members of the Freedom Caucus are conservatives. Theyre from bedrock conservative districts. Very, very hard to beat. But you can make them uncomfortable. Most of these guys hardly ever get primaried. Theyre out of the tea party mold. Theyre the ones that ideologically are looking at debt at all times. Congressman mulvaney, director, out of that caucus, so very hard to beat them. Again, i think donald trump soon is going to be looking at the senate, thats where the action is going to be. Thats where the play is going to be. So, well see if the rhetoric matches the bully. Any president can beat one, two, or three people if they focus. Republican or democrat. If they decide youre the guy that has got innocent president s way the donors or infrastructure are going to take one or two out, youre not going to deal with 33. I think thats the point, charlie. You have a president that won michigan by 800, or 1,000 votes. On saturday tweeted back at dan ska vino, bring it on. Ooulz all stand up for liberty and constitution. Hes basically using it for fundraising. I mean, is going after somebody with that specificity, besides the investigation thats involved in it, is that just smart politics . No, mark twain once said to a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail. Apparently, donald trump is a man with a twitter account who thinks that the answer to everything is a bullying feet. The problem is dot math here. Republicans in the house can only lose 22 votes to get anything passed, tax reform, infrastructure or debt ceiling. There are 33 members of the Freedom Caucus. Again, do the math on this. How does this end well. Unless donald trump thinks hes going to get democrats to bail him out and cooperate with him, hes basically picks exactly the wrong fight. First of all because he needs the votes but also because this is going to divide the trump conservative base. What are the Sean Hannities and rush limbaughs and Laura Ingrahams going to do now . These are groups that have championed for years and year. So, i also think that justin amash has come up with an interesting phrase. He talked abo about trumpestablishment. Thats a name that can be very damaging to trump trump. Because his entire brand is antiestablishment. And yet hes going up against the genuine antiestablishment members of his own party. If that sticks that could start eroding. The idea that donald trump is coming in and cleaning up washington. If now, he allows the tea party to pull the same act on him as they did on eric cantor, saying, no, hes the swamp. Were the ones draining the swamp. Doesnt he place himself in a completely untenable position when he wants to do other things like tax cuts . Yeah, hes put himself in a very difficult position. One of the things we should look at is really who has the leverage and does the Freedom Caucus have any reason to truly fear donald trump. It was donald trump as the negotiations were going on that capitulated and agreed to the approached Health Care Plan that would drop essential benefits as a way to appease the Freedom Caucus, and the Freedom Caucus said were not down with the program. Were not going to vote for this. He showed his cards, they smell blood. The constituency might be feel something buyers remorse, you know . I think hes garshing and betting on his belief that all of the people who voted for him are going to come out against these people in 2018. But they work for constituents. They do not work for donald trump. Their job is to do what their constituents asked them do. Right now, donald trump after the defeat of his American Health care act said hes done, hes not doing health care anymore. Just this morning, he tweeted that hes back if the game, anybody he says, especially fake news media, hello, who thinks that repeal and replay of obamacare is dead does not know the love and strength in our party. Charlie just pointed out 33 members in the Freedom Caucus. Only 18 voted against the bill. If they go back and do health care again, is it the moderate republicans that are the most at risk when they go home in 2018 . Back with something even more draconi draconian, more cuts to medicaid, that doesnt hurt his Tea Party Members that puts the moderates on the hook, right . Right. Its really difficult. My favorite line was nobody knew how complex health care would be. We all knew. This is whats concerning to me. I sat on the right, and we have eight years to do this. Trying to push republicans come up with a tenable plan, right, lets unify around this. The plan that paul ryan and donald trump supported only had about 17 approval rating. So, they really have to go back to the drawing board and take their time. Because at the end of the day, people back in their home districts want to know theyre covered. This bill sent premiums right back up 15 , 20 . They have to get good results and gop has to prove they can govern well. And katon dawson, republican governors including the governor of ohio who got together and said, look, weve got a way to show up medicaid. Do they even look at that plan as a starting point to come up with an idea that still kept people covered. Well, i think they look at everything. But let me give you a political reality, whoever owns health care is probably going to lose. Eight years we ran and loaded the deck all over the country on president obama and health care. If you want to look at the political spectrum when you come home, its really tough and soon the republicans might own health care. And weve got the midterms coming up, 2018 which usually decimates a party. So theres your diciness in campaigns and elections, if you own it you better explain it and it better work. Going back to health care seems like an insane idea. Christian tin hellgrunn, Charlie Sikes up next. My sweethearts gone sayonara. This scarf all thats left to remem. What she washed this like a month ago the long lasting scent of gain flings before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. I was active. Then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. 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Joining me the Ranking Member of the cia subcommittee of the house Intelligence Committee. Thank you so much for being here, representative. Lets start back with what mccain had to say. He was asked to comment on the chairman of the committee on which he served, chairman nunes. This is a question whether or not nes is acting properly as committee chair. This is obviously a schism between republican and democrat let alone the bizarre fashion in which all of this happened. If were really going to get to the bottom of these things, its got to be done in a bipartisan fashion. As far as i could tell, congressman nunes killed that. Do you think, representative falwell, that nunez is now a credible chairman for the house Intelligence Committee . Hes not credible, joy, in this investigation, and he should be as far away from it as possible. Just to go back, we had a very credible hearing, a very illuminating hearing with fbi director comey monday of last week. Then the very next day is where all of this really unraveled. What i think happened, its pretty clear, the facts were put forward to the American People that there is an sbreegs the president s campaign as to the russia interference. So, the white house sought to work with and use the chairman as a way to try to validate the president s wiretapping claims. The only way to get back on track and have a real credible investigation that makes progress is for him to step aside. Other option weve heard talked about, House Speaker nancy pelosi said about, doing a 9 11style commission that would take it out of either of the committees. This is Chris Wallace this morning on fox interviewing Mitch Mcconnell on the senate side as to what he thought about that. Take a listen. Given all of the politics, the continuing controversy, why not appoint an independent 9 11style commission. Or have the Justice Department appoint a special council, so you have a truly nonpartisan independent investigation that everybody can trust. Its just not necessary. Based on what we know now. Weve got a bipartisan investigation under way. Its called the Senate Intelligence committee. Senator byrd, senator warner had a joint press conference this week. I think they clearly laid out theyre going wherever the facts take them. We dont need yet another investigation. Given the kol lance of information in the house process, is the Senate Committee good enough or do you agree with Mitch Mcconnell that there needs to be an independent commission . An independent commission is needed more than ever. Every democrat supports it. One republican walter jones also supports it. Joy, i wrote that legislation partially informed by my experience. I was a capitol hill intern when i was 20 years old when september 11th happened. I saw how democrats and republicans united. Came together. Did an investigation in the house but also allowed an independent commission to find out what happened. And to make reforms so that we would never find ourselves vulnerable to an attack like that again. We need to do the same thing here. I think its not only the most comprehensive way to find just what happened but its an insurance policy against a compromised house investigation. Zbletsz just say that is not to be. And there there still be house and Senate Investigations going on. Do you think that one of the committees right now the senate is the big one. But do you think the House Committee to immunize Michael Flynn, give him immunity to compel his testimony . Right now, we dont know what he wants to be immunized from. When i was a prosecutor, anytime a witness asked for immunity, wed say, what do you have right now, joy, generally, incident people dont seek immunity. I would also want to know if the department of justice is okay with this. Right now, general flynn, we know he was taking money from essentially russias Intelligence Service which they use russia today as a cutout to disseminate false information as a propaganda tool. Im going to hold back until we know just exactly what he wants to give up. You agree with general flynn on that question of whether or not an innocent person seeks immunity. Listen, just an interesting piece of sound. Vladimir putin aide Dmitry Peskov was on with George Stephanopoulos this morning. He was asked what similarities between donald trump and vladimir putin. Interesting to get your reaction. You said that president putin and were very much alike in their approach to international relations. How so . They both insist on the priority as National Interests. And they understand really well that sometimes it is in your National Interest to conduct good relationships with a counterpart, ensuring that those relationships are mutually beneficial. A lot of Trump Supporters take that exact same view, interestingly enough. That Donald Trumps repeated contact with russia are actually a positive for the United States, because it would allow us to work with what was an as versus saer, do you confer with that . , joy, every time i start to wonder am i chasing ghosts here or going down the rabbit hole with this russia investigation, i take a step back and i remind myself were talking about team, personal political and financial ties with a foreign adversary. This is not a case of people having such extensive ties to germany or new zealand or mexico. This is a country that even postcold war continues to underminus in syria. Continues to work against the interests of ukraine. And we just learned a general said last week that they may be supplying arms to the taliban who are killing u. S. Soldiers. So russia is not our friend. 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Play ball baseball season officially kicks off today, followed by a dozen matchups on monday. Including the home opener for the washington nationals, the team that asked donald trump to throw out the ceremonial first pitch. Its tradition, after all. Every sitting president has thrown a first pitch at least one Major League Baseball game since president William Howard taft threw out the first ball for the National Senators in 1910, trump declined on tuesday to step up to the mound because of, quote, scheduling issues. We cant help to wonder if thats the real reason why. Especially because trump actually played baseball. There he is in a yearbook photo of the variety baseball team. According to sources in the Washington Post story he was quite versatile with a bat, quote, purpling another boy or smashing a baseball when he made it to the mat. Trump talked about it in 2014 interview. I was the best baseball player in new york when i was young. Best baseball player, really . 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Meanwhile the president is currently golfing at his club, his 14th golf trip since president. Back with us and im going to you, kristin, on the hypocrisy of the golf. Donald trump was tweeting madly when president obama was in office, when will obama go on the next vacation after he wins the election the day after. With the tsa falling apart. President obamas vacation is costi ining taxpayers money. Hes doing it every weekend. It is hard to stomach. This is a political tactic. I think for his image, right, everything thats going on right now with the russia investigations with his policy agenda, he should be looking, how does this look to the American People, especially so many of us who werent wealthy, right. Better for him strategically to be back in the white house and to show that hes driving policy and serious about this if hes concerned about it. Michelle bernard, you look at the calendars, the weekends at maralago, all through march. I think trumps core base doesnt case. He said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue. I believe thats true. There are republicans who bran for district that came close to carrying and there are independents that exist that voted for donald trump. How does this make them him look to me . I think they have quite a quandary on their hands when it comes to donald trump and the money that we as citizens are spending to keep him secure as he travels around the country to play golf. Its kind of funny, theres that saying whats good for the goose is good for the gander. These are all of the things that they explained about president obama and quite frankly, other president s. Its a fair complaint, i believe when it comes to the president. I dont think that the country can do anything about it. And what we really need to be focused on, quite frankly, is the budget, and where the proposing budget cuts. And that sort of thing. When it comes to Melania Trump, ive got to tell you i really believe that it is inherently antifeminist and antiwoman for anyone to believe that they should dictate how she decides what is best for her life and what is best for her son. Maybe the public complaints will get the trumps to cough up money when it comes to security that the city is spending in taking care of her. But she fully has a right to decide where she wants to live and what is best for her life and how shes going to conduct herself as the first lady. Its no ones business just like Michelle Obamas decision to bare her arms or focus on child obesity and eating healthy. We talked about this before, the idea that the first ladies of the United States is refusing to live in the white house. Not only that, but her husbands travel is costing not just new york, we talk about new york a lot. But youre down there in florida. Just maralago at all. We talk about the budget, politicals estimate based on the journal Accounting Office based on reporting of a similar obama trip, every trip that he takes to mar alag goal costs 4 million. Palm beach, new york time reports, 200,000 in lost fuel sales at a local airport because they cant use it. 75 no shows at a restaurant. 250 private flightses. You have the right of the trumps to live the lifestyle they want. And cost that we have to bear. First and foremost, joy, lets not blame the first lady would you want to live in the white house with donald trump . I certainly wouldnt it. The payday loan presidency of donald trump continues just like in any good con. Just like in the payday industry, lots of promises of easy money, convenience and happy talk until the sticker shock kicks in. Lets look at the numbers, the numbers are rather compelling in my opinion. 150,000 nearly a day which translates to about 50 million a just to keep melania at trump tower at taxpayer expense. And the golf trips. The gull of these billionaires and millionaires who like to brag about how much money they have. Yet, the public has to foot the bill for their travel. Weve got nearly six trips. Were not even 2 1 2 months into this presidency. Hitting on the 20 million mark. At the same time, in his presidency, how many trips did barack obama take zero. And donald trump has the stones it to say that obama needs to get off the golf course. Joy, its just the con of a presidency. The choices that melania makes do impact the taxpayers. Michelle obama did lets move which he raised from entities like walmart and nike. The secret service has put in a request for 6 million just next year alone. 28 million of that is just to protect melania and her son. I think it gets difficult when you ask someone to reimburse. Because the only two required to have secret Service Protection are the president and vice president. It would be a National Security nightmare if a grandchild or child or, you know, a soninlaw of the president was kidnapped or injured or hurt in any way. There should be no concern on the federal side with respect to budget. There should be concern, as far as the trumps are concerned to be mindful of what they do and dont do. One thing that Michelle Obama got a lot of flak for was her foreign travel. It turns out at the end of the term, she did less foreign travel than Hillary Clinton and laura bush. And she was mindful of those costs. And the trumps should be mindful as well. Does he need to go to maralago every weekend . Absolutely no does she need to take a separate plane down to maralago as opposed to meeting him in washington and taking air force one which is already going down there, yes. What do you make of the argument . Theyre sort of two separate things. Theres trump loving to go to golf every weekend and the optics of that and the cost of it. And then theres the melania living situation. Your thoughts. Melania trump i agree with michelle needs to do what she needed to do. I live in new york city just around the corner from trump towers i wouldal agree do for my convenience it would be great for her to live down there. I think the American People really want to focus on getting things done, right. Everyone can scream politics. We talk about the fact that theyre golfing. Republicans were so critical of Michelle Obama and barack obama for playing golf. Lets trim the fat here. Lets talk about stuff that actually matters. Its those complaints that make americans tune out. They get apathetic about politics, they dont vote and they have this animosity towards washington instead of saying how can we work with our government . Lets call our senators. Michelle, at the same time there is a let them eat cake aspects to that this. This is a family that lives in a literal golden tower and theyre asking for our sympathy because they dont want to all be forced to live in the 240yearold house. There is an inspect that it seems unfair that the taxpayers should have to pay for their lifestyle. Even if you feel badly with the situation she has with wanting to keep her son here, were paying for all of this. Arguments id make for the trumps if i were an adviser to Melania Trump id say go back in history and look at what other first ladies have done in order to deal with these types of issues. Jackie onassis, she went out and raised money privately to do all of the renovations she wanted to do to the white house. There has to be a way, given Donald Trumps allegations about his wealth, assuming its there, to be able to deal with this and reimburse the taxpayers in new york for the security of his wife. And of his son. My only point is simply that no one has the right to tell Melania Trump that they know better than she does somewhere she should live or how she could raise her son. All of the issues around the fiscal appropriateness of this, i absolutely agree with this. But i think there is a way for the trumps to be able to cake care of this. And if donald trump he would do so. All of the allegations that he constantly made about barack obama are going to be thrown back in his face when it comes reelection time if he makes 2 through the following four years hes going to have to contend with how he spent the nations money. Is there a discontent at this point with the amount of money they are spending just on their lifestyle . Oh, absolutely. I mean, look, there is a contempt for the process. A contempt for the people in this flagrant disregard. Again, from one side of his mouth he talks about saving the taxpayer money and efficiencies and all of the winning hes going to bring. But the truth of the matter, its a massive inconvenience. The people of Palm Beach County are talking not only about the cost involve but the quality of life. This is a conscientious decision made by the president and first lady. I take exception with some of the comments on the panel. These are people that know what theyre doing, they know the implications and they do it anyway because they dont care. I find that contemptuous of the American People and american taxpayer. We just had the financial tax forms that sole ivanka and jared, the daughter and soninlaw, theyre beneficiaries of about 740 million in real estate investments. You have the other sons traveling on business with taxpay taxpayerfunded security. This family is living quite well on the taxpayer dime. And donald trump still has not made a commitment to not take his salary that hes going to donate it back. We have no sign that hes going to do that. Asked the press corps for if he was going to do that . Yeah. This goes back to the mindfulness issue. The trump sons have a right to be in business. They have a right to go do business. But they should be mindful of their travel if theyre going to travel with the secret service. Because theres an advance teams, lots of expensive hotels. Theyre not staying in cheap places. Yep. And it costs the taxpayers a lot of money. By the way, theres an easy way to calm this down for the white house, admit they were wrong which theyre never going to do. But donald trump, you dont know what the job is like until youre in. Now he recognizes why he should play golf. By the way, camp david running empty. 8 million a year. Not using it. Thank you very much. Kirstin haglund welcome to the show. And michelle and fernand, thank you. Yvette nicole brown joins me live to talk about her very timely documentary. Yeah, at first i thought it was just the stress of moving. [ sighs ] hey, i was using that. What, you think we own stock in the Electric Company . 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Once upon the state america built the greatest system, the interstate highway system, over 46,000 miles of road that connect us and bring us to depend on things every day. Those roads absolutely changed our lives and were absolutely wearing them out. Thedesigned 60 years ago was never meant to handle the traffic it does today. Think of the highway as your jeans, old, worn, and a real problem. The problem is weve gained weight. We can barely squeeze into our jeans. Joining us now, nick let brown of be prepared to stop, and shes host of a show and back with me is cohost jonathan capehart. You know Nicolette Brown from community. This is a fabulous documentary. Congratulations on doing it. People understand a driveover bridge thats not in good shape. The asce which gives a report card to infrastructure has given an overall rate of dplus to america, poor, at risk, mostly below standard, with elements approaching the end. Our roads are literally crumbling under us. Think about. A dplus. Would you eat at a restaurant request a dplus . Absolutely not. Its the rating that the roads have been given. We hope people stop and introduce them to infrastructure. Our Highway Trust Fund has nts been increased since 1993 which is ridiculous when you think about it. Theres been no increase. Even is afraid of taxes. But if it keeps the road safe for your baby in a school bus, its worth it. Go ahead. Finish your sentence. Finish your sentence. It helps you get your things. Everything in this room im sitting in came off a truck. If the roads dont work, you cant get your stuff. Think about it from a personal standpoint. Let me play a trailer, one little crip. Literally everything you have is trucked to you. Take a look. The bridges are old and just falling apart. 200 million times a day motorists in the United States are driving over structurally deficient bridges in urban areas. Most people do not realize that every tangible object, every piece of food they consumed was most likely in a truck before it got to them. The only hope is for the American Public to come to grips with the reality that we are 28 in the world on infrastructure investment. One of the things you guys did is you talked about what would happen five days without a truck being able to get to you. Talk about that. My favorite show is walking dead. Were five days away from an apocalypse. I think that when people watch the documentary, theyll see that this is something that greatly impacts them personally. Its the whole just in the same way health care got everybody up, its my appeal, my cancer. This is the road youre driving on. Were trying to give it a personal bent. Maybe we can go to town halls and talk about these potholes and bridges, you know. Its a very personal issue. Jonathan, the reason is this fear of raising taxes. Yes. Is there any will in washington to get this done, which is to raise taxes to fix the roads and bridges. The short answer is no, and im so glad yvette brought this up to you at the beginning of her segment. Correct me if im wrong. Since 1993. 1993. The tax money that goes into the fund is what keeps the roads and bridges in repair. What im trying to figure out and maybe you know this, how do we bridge the gap between members of congress here in washington who need to raise taxes in order to refill the trust fund and the American People. Yeah, absolutely. Go on. We have to find a way to make people understand this affects them. Were very reactionary instead of proactive. Like the bridge in atlanta, we have to get the bridge back up. Everyone is scrambling to do that. If we take care of them before they crumble, wed be in a better position. We have to understand this is a crisis right now. Not ten years from now. Our roads and bridges are in trouble right now. Its things like that, joy, is getting word out. Absolutely. The documentary is be prepared to stop Yvette Nicolette brown, we happen to love the same show. I know youll be watching the last show. Thank you. Bye. Bye, jonathan. Nice to meet you. It will be on amazon and itunes later. Check it out. That is our show for today. Be sure to join us next week for more a. M. Joy. Keep it on msnbc for the rest of your sunday. You dont let anything keep you sidelined. Thats why you drink ensure. With 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. For the strength and energy to get back to doing. What you love. Ensure. Always be you. A 401 k is the most sound way to go. Lets talk asset allocation. Sure. You seem knowledgeable, professional. Would you trust me as your Financial Advisor . I would. I would indeed. Well, lets be clear, here. Im actually a deejay. [ laughing ] no way i have no Financial Experience at all. That really is you . If theyre not a cfp pro, you just dont know. 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