Then, how a president accused of outright fraud gets away with playing the victim. Guilty until proven innocent, thats very dangerous for our country. Plus, 33 days out, the latest polls moving towards democrats in the house and Game Show Hosts who fail as debate moderators for 800. No, dont go there. When all in starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes, Mitch Mcconnell vowed to plow right through Brett KavanaughsSupreme Court confirmation, even after the first woman to accuse him of Sexual Misconduct came forward. Now thats exactly what hes doing, scheduling a procedural vote tomorrow morning and a final confirmation vote on saturday. Even as public outrage over kavanaugh explodes through the capitol. Protesters staked out senators offices, they staged a mass sitin on capitol hill where more than 300 were arrested and they marched by the hundreds to a rally outside the Supreme Court. Lawmakers, activists and survivors of Sexual Assault pledging to keep on fighting. I am angry, but let me make it clear, i have a plan. It is a threepart plan. Number one, take back the senate. Number two, take back the house. Number three, return the power to the people where it belongs. Exactly one week since dr. Christine blasey ford testified under oath about being sexually assaulted by kavanaugh as a teenager which he denies. Her lawyers in a letter to fbi director Christopher Wray called it a stain on the process, and our american ideal of justice. Heres how democratic senator bob menendez described the probe. You just read the fbi background report on kavanaugh. What are your thoughts, senator . Well, if thats an investigation, its a bull [ bleep ] investigation. The reality is, that is not a full and thorough investigation. Senate republicans declared victory announcing the fbi had found no corroboration or for the claim by Deborah Ramirez that kavanaugh exposed himself to her in college, an allegation he denies as well. Its hard to find corroboration if youre not even looking for it. The headlines speak for themselves, fbi probe ignored testimonies from former classmates, fbi background check appears to have been highly curtailed, white house approval to talk to kavanaugh and ford. Besides being an obvious whitewash the fbis report does nothing to address concerns about kavanaughs misleading or outright false statements in his sworn testimony last week or his partisan belligerent performance. According to a report, retired Supreme Court justice, john paul stevens, a lifelong republican said today that kavanaughs performance alone should be disqualifying. Tonight on the eve of that key procedural vote it all comes down to four undecided senators, heidi hidecamp announced shes a no on kavanaugh, citing doubts on the temperament, honesty and impartiality and the force on dr. Fords testimony. That leaves kavanaughs nomination in the hands of the same four senators who forced the investigation in the first place, republicans jeff flake, susan collins, Lisa Murkowski and democrat joe manchin. G Garrett Haake joins me live from capitol hill where senator murkowski has been meeting with Sexual Assault survivors. Reporter lets go backwards. If youre a democrat right now you need joe manchin to remain a no vote here, and you need two of those three republican senators to vote no. Probably the least likely in that is jeff flake. He was a yes vote as of friday morning of last week before changing his mind and calling for this investigation. Susan collins left the hill a short time ago. She said she had finished reviewing the fbis files. But shes not ready to make a decision tonight. Shes going to come back tomorrow. And then theres Lisa Murkowski. I think she is the most interesting person to watch right now as i was getting ready to leave the hill a little bit earlier tonight i stumbled across a few dozen alaskan women meeting with senator murkowski. As they were coming out of her office they told me in two separate groups they filled up her Conference Room and had this incredibly emotional meeting with the senator. Some of them were Sexual Assault survivors, all women from alaska and they traveled here to talk to the senator about her vote and pressed their case saying she should not go forward on this vote. 10 of the 18 women i was speaking to when they came out of her office were in tears. They described this incredibly emotional meeting and they made very clear to tell me they felt like the senator was really listening to her. The most Important Note about this meeting i stumbled upon was the fact i stumbled upon it. This was not something murkowski or her staff were broadcasting, wasnt something they were trying to check a box saying were meeting with constituents. They were trying to do this quietly. It was still something we came into. That tells me a little bit how shes preparing for this process. Chris, shes got a little bit of political cover if she wanted to vote no. The governor of alaska said he opposed this pick. Shes not up for reelection until 2022. If her conscience tells her to vote no, shes got a lot of political cover. She heard very intimately from constituents thats what they want to see her do. Theres another curve ball. Steve daines, a senator from montana, wont be around for saturdays vote. He will be indeed walking his daughter down the aisle on her wedding day. What does that do to the whip count . This is the classic human drama of the senate. If the vote goes on saturday afternoon and steve daines isnt here republicans have to keep all three of those republicans on board and then have mike pence break the tie, assuming, again, that joe manchin votes with the rest of the democrats and is a no vote. Or what we could see is a shortening of the clock here after not to get too wonky here, but after mcconnell would file the cloture vote, in theory theres 30 more hours of debate. If republicans are confident they have all the votes they need, they could give back all of their time and hope that danes can catch a flight, either a commercial flight or get a lift back to montana to make it back in time if they know they have the votes. But yeah, its just another curve ball, like weve been dealing with, with john mccains absence over the preceding six months or so of last year where it makes the math that much harder for anything republicans are trying to jam through to get jammed through. Garrett haake, thank you very much for that. Protesters in washington are not quitting tonight. Theres another rally taking place outside the capitol where a few senators stopped by to rev up the crowd. Lets keep showing up. Lets keep speaking out. Lets speak our truth. Lets do it with pride. Lets do it with force, lets do it knowing we are on the right side of this issue. What we are about tonight is saying, in so many ways, for so many reasons, enough is enough. And justice is going to come to the United States. We still have senators to button hole. I know youre going to do it. Youve had a profound effect to everybody here tonight. Thank you. Joining me fresh from that protest tonight, senator Richard Blumenthal who serves on the Senate Judiciary committee. In the last few minutes the wall street journals oped page posted an oped by kavanaugh, expressing regret for his behavior on thursday. I was emotional on thursday, i was there as a son, husband and dad. Is that good enough for you . Not good enough by any means, chris, because that performance was so filled with arrogance and acrimony, rage and revenge, literally threatening senators. It was a kind of unmasking, a revelation. And it is the reason that john paul stevens, a former justice of the Supreme Court said it was disqualifying. Why other judges and lawyers around the country have said that they believe that it was disqualifying. No judge should threaten a potential litigant. And by the way, in blumenthal versus trump, a lawsuit on the clause i am a potential litigant, threatened potential lawyers who may appear before him, that issue of temperament is now front and center. And that socalled apology, it was really a nonapology, more like an explanation, is far from good enough for me. Republicans who were briefed on that fbi report that interviewed, we think, around ten witnesses say, basically, it clears their guy. Theyre forging ahead. Whats your response to that . That fbi report was abysmally incomplete and inadequate, tantamount to a coverup, a real whitewash. Because they failed to follow leads. They failed to interview important witnesses who were potential eyewitnesses and corroborating witnesses. And they failed to answer questions. In fact, it left more questions unanswered than answered. And the review that i did, in fact, indicated in the fbi tip line, the records there, calls from people who were never then contacted with information, offering to come forward and provide that information about the relevant issues here. We are barred from going into the contents of that file. But heres the other part. They never interviewed dr. Blasey ford. They never interviewed judge kavanaugh. They never interviewed carr carrie bercham from connecticut. Has there ever been an explanation for not talking . There was no explanation. The white house set parameters, circumscribed the numbers of people and who would be interviewed as well as the time and in fact straitjacketed this investigation. Final question, one of your colleagues the texas compared judge kavanaughs plight to the man accused in to kill a mockingbird, a black man falsely accused of rape in the jim crow south, and finch standing up trying whirighteous thats a disservice to atticus finch, standing up for someone who needs a defense. And i believe that survivors of Sexual Assault, survivors who came forward like dr. Blasey ford are the real profiles in courage here and theyre the ones who should be supported and applauded and really uplifted. And they have come forward, all around the country, to my office and my colleagues offices. And to mock or ridicule them as the president did the other night, to subject them to public shaming and character assassination as some of my republican colleagues have done, to call them confused or mixed up is a real disservice. And i believe those survivors. Final question, Chuck Schumer and dick durbin hinted that the Background Investigation having no hints of inappropriateness in the background of the judge were false. Whats the deal with that . What can you tell us about that . I can tell you within the limits of what i can say here that the claim theres no hint of misconduct in that report is untrue. Theres plenty there that would support claims of wrongdoing and misconduct. And unfortunately, for now at least, we are barred from talking about the details. But thats why the facts are so important. Why seeking those witnesses who can corroborate the survivors should have been done. We presented a list of 25, including dr. Blasey ford and judge kavanaugh, and just to give you one small example, carrie bercham from connecticut had information about outreach by judge kavanaugh before the new yorker story appeared about Deborah Ramirez which reflects potentially witness tampering and certainly knowledge of it. Couldnt someone from the senate just make the file public in some way or talk about it . Whats stopping you . Well, there are rules. And so far we have followed the rules, even though there is potentially a breaking of those rules by our colleagues. But at some point what do you mean by that . Well, i think that their claim that there was no hint of misconduct oh, i see. And also some of the tweets yesterday. Heres the important thing, chris, that report should be made public in some form. The American People deserve it. It was done by the fbi. Way fewer witnesses were even contacted than should have been, a fraction of the ones who were suggested by the survivors here, Deborah Ramirez and dr. Blasey ford as well as us as members of the judiciary committee. The American People deserve to see it. Senator Richard Blumenthal, thank you. A closer look at what we can expect at 10 30 a. M. Im joined by former senator Barbara Boxer, and jim manley, chief spokesperson for harry reed. The seat has been kept open, barred merritt garland for a year and mow is just going to plow through with this because he just this is what hes there for, right . This is what hes there for, you know, to give him somewhat of credit hes steel eyed determination to ram through as many judges as he can. He doesnt care about the senate. He doesnt care about the rules. He just wants to win. And so, you know, hes going to use a sham investigation to try and get this over the goal line. Well see what happens tomorrow. You know, i think its going to be very tough vote for a lot of folks. Though, having said that, senator hidecamp showed it wasnt that tough. She showed a way to come out voting no. I hope others still out there will do the same thing. Do you think the democrats should break the rules and make the report public . No, i dont believe in doing that. But let me tell you what i think. I dont praise Mitch Mcconnell in any way, shape or form. Because what hes doing is wrong. This has been a see no evil, hear no evil investigation. The client was the gop in the white house. Right. They dont want to get to the truth. They want to get to a vote. And good for heidi hidecamp. I remember when i voted against the war in iraq and so did 22 other senators out of 100. It was one of the toughest moments electorally. Once in a while you show that courage. I say that so sue collins, and flake and murkowski and joe manchin. People want you to be courageous, they want you to say caution to the wind its a conscience vote. Jim, how broken is this . I mean, i think were dealing with a process thats been broken in many different ways over a long period of time. But this seems to me like the final kind of crack in the entirety of the way that the court is filled, and whats going to happen Going Forward in terms of legitimacy of the court as an institution. Not only calls into question once again the legitimacy of the court as an institution but again shows some significant fractures in the senate itself. The level of ugly rhetoric that ive heard thrown by republicans against their fellow democratic colleagues over the last two weeks is something i have never seen before in my entire life. You really mean that . I utterly and truly mean it. I mean, some of the stuff that these republicans have been tweeting about, and talking about, about their colleagues is unprecedented. And, again, its another example of the Senate Becoming just as ugly and divisive as the house. Needless to say, i dont mean that as a compliment. Senator boxer, do you agree with that . Its awful right now in the United States senate. But i want to throw Something Else in. All those years ago when i came in the year of the woman, you know, in 1992 when i got elected, this goes back to anita hill. Whenever there is a woman who comes forward, very credible, very believable, she gets treated horribly. Now, they tried not to do that to dr. Ford. But all that broke down. Right. Even had a woman assistant to question her as Mitch Mcconnell called her. It was ridiculous. Guess what happened then . They were corroborating witnesses who would have said, yes, anita is right. Professor hill is right, and they were cooling their heels. What do we have here . 40 people at my count as i read all the news reports, including nbc, who were waiting to corroborate exactly what the two women who came forward said. And they were left cooling their heels. This is not justice. And so its more than even the partisanship. There is such a thing as right and wrong. And this is really about a woman and yet a second woman who came forward and said this man hurt me. And the first thing the republicans did was this make believe investigation, you know, a wink and a nod investigation, and jeff flake, sue collins and murkowski, who wisely called for an investigation, should not hide behind it because history will not treat them kindly. The truth has a way of coming out. All right, Barbara Boxer and jim manley, thank you both so much. As the kavanaugh vote looms, outright fraud plays the victim, look at who gets away with things in this country and who doesnt in two minutes. Lets do an ad of a man eating free waffles at comfort inn. They taste like victory because he always gets the lowest price on our rooms, guaranteed, when he books direct at choicehotels. Com. Or just say, badda book. Badda boom. Book now at choicehotels. Com but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. Two years after the 2016 president ial election Donald Trumps most ardent fans still like to break out into raucous chants of lock her up as they did tuesday night in mississippi. Its a chance that originated as a call to jail trumps political opponent. Even though the fbi declined to prosecute her after a long investigation. Were it not so galling it would be darkly comedic in the very same rally, the president defended the principle of the presumption of innocence. Guilty until proven innocent. Thats very dangerous for our country. Thats very dangerous for our country. All right. So lets talk about the presumption of innocence and the consequences of allegations of wrongdoing for the most powerful man in the world. The president has been accused by at least 15 women on the record of unwanted sexual contact, all of which he says are false. He faced no legal or criminal liability for it whatsoever. Just two days ago he was accused in a detailed, documented investigation by the New York Times of participating in decades of what they said was outright fraud in evading taxes while receiving the equivalent of at least 413 million from his fathers real estate empire. And he has faced neither legal nor criminal consequences, which is really par for the course. Thanks in part to repeated slashing of the irs budget since the gingrich era, tax fraud and money hiding regularly go unpunished. It takes a special case to face prosecution. Just ask Paul Manafort who surly would have gotten away with his own flagrant crimes had he not found himself in Robert Muellers sights. His former staff secretary rob porter was accused of abuse by two separate exwives, including one who provided this photo of a black eye, she says he gave her. Yet even after those abuse claims, which porter denies, were brought to the attention of the white house, porter was allowed to continue in his job at the white house handling the most sensitive documents in the nation. He only lost his job after it all became public, and he has faced no other consequences. And then theres Brett Kavanaugh, who has been accused by Christine Blasey ford under oath of Sexual Assault, which he denies. Dr. Blasey ford has been described as credible by republican senators, and even the president himself while many of kavanaughs former classmates say he blatantly lied under oath in playing down his youthful drinking and explaining away his adolescent inside jokes. But kavanaugh hasnt faced any legal or criminal consequences either. In fact, he is now poised to get a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court. And that speaks to the difference between how the presumption of innocence works for people like trump and kavanaugh and the lived reality of millions of americans. Every single day thousands upon thousands of our fellow citizens are rung through americas critical courts, disproportionately poor, nonwhite, the prupesumption of their guilty keep it is whole system running, guilty plea after guilty plea after guilty plea. There are hundreds of thousands of americans in jail right now simply because they cannot afford to pay their bail. They are presumed innocent by the law and constitution and locked in cages nonetheless. Calethe browder was one of them. He was accused of stealing a backpack at the age of 16. He was beaten by a guard, attacked by fellow inmates and put in solitary continement for two years. When he got out he killed himself. Judge kavanaugh has suggested the accusation he is facing has destroyed his life. I would urge him to talk to browders relatives and loved ones about what that phrase really means. For most of Human History the law has largely functioned as another means to protect those in power and punish those without. Whats worth fighting every last inch for, its the words above the Supreme Court, equal justice under law. That phrase represents a repudiation of the tyranny under which humans have struggled for most of our lives on the planet. It may not be a reality but it should be the north star towards which we still struggle. And if there is a single principle that donald trump stands for, made manifest time and again in his attacks on robert mueller, his dismissal of his accounts of wrongdoing and his defenses of other powerful men, it is the principle of power over law. The idea that the law is for the little people, for the wrongly accused central park five who he called to have executed and the browders and Central American mothers to they get the law. 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Skating, theyve pushed the line, pushed the line, even a person charitably disposed to look, roguish getting away with it, he has managed to cross over lines and push the line and push the line and get away with it. The big question that hangs over all of us right now is does that continue . Of course. Donald trump is a confidence man. Weve got to understand that. We learned it from his father. And the story that he sold us is a story that was a lie, that he took and borrowed took a loan of a 1 million, and its almost the opposite. He was the son who kept screwing up and getting bailed out by dad. The opposite. What we learned at his fathers knee was how to avoid, how to avoid his tax responsibilities. Yes. And if he learned that, then what i think we could conclude from that, project out is that hes probably continued to do it, which demands which leads us to demand his tax returns. You were one of the reporters who broke a story about people that had accused donald trump of unwanted sexual contact. And during the campaign access hollywood. As we look, its remarkable to go back to that, and the fact that he was able to escape the political consequences of that as well. In your opening, in your powerful opening, you suggested that he has been able to kind of slip out of legal consequences. And i think its worth pointing out, and people often forget about this, but while he was elected to the presidency after more than ten women came forward with allegations of Sexual Misconduct against him in 2016, one of his accusers is suing him. Right. For defamation here in new york court and at every step of the way the judge has allowed that case to move forward. So there are questions, i think its a case everybody should be watching. This is summer xervos. Not for the under lying conduct, its for the that is correct he said shes lying and shes suing for defamation over that. In your opening youve made the point that hes gotten up there and hammered the point that people should be presumed innocent until proven guilty, at least certain people. Its not just that. Hes gone beyond that stance and has really created a pattern of openly attacking and mocking accusers, people who do step forward with allegations of Sexual Misconduct, not just against him but now in the case of kavanaugh when he was at his rally the other night mocking Christine Blasey ford. It really had echoes of the ways he treated the accusers in 2016. I think eddie why this moment has powerful cultural potency, it feels like the basic principle is everyone accountable is whats up for grabs right now. Absolutely. Crystal mason in texas is doing time right now because she thought she could vote. On probation. On probation. Shes doing time right now. Lets put it very clearly. And so theres this idea that africanamericans and folk who are poor, who believe that rich folk can get away with anything, that theyre really just victim trading in kind of victimization. No, it is a discernible fact of their lives that they see people getting away with things while they are overpoliced and oversurveilled and underprotected. Yeah. But let me say this about this situation with kavanaugh really quickly, chris, i think were you know, we have in political theory the legitimation crisis. Yup. This process is deeply illegitimate. And if kavanaugh is confirmed and hes on the court he will be seen as illegitimate. And that illegitimacy will metastasize to the court itself. So the protests were seeing outside arent just simply protests against republicans. Its going to the heart of legitimacy of the institution of the court. This is a really important point for the health of our democracy. You know, i think just back to the issue of accountability and how things are frame of mind, hmin mind framed, how trump frames that and how theyre framed in the context of the allegations against kavanaugh, the blasey ford, allegation against her, you kept hearing today that theres no corroboration, no corroboration, as a reporter whos done a lot of coverage of allegations of Sexual Misconduct, i can say that when it comes to putting these allegations in the paper, there were a lot of things that corroborated her story. There were, you know, the people who the parties say they dont remember that. But, you know, they dont remember the party. Right. That many years ago. But, you know, in her testimony, in her account to the Washington Post she has said that she told her therapist that there are medical records in from 2012 or 2013, i cant be sure, before kavanaugh was even nominated in which she sort of stepped forward and said this happened to me. There are many people shes told. As i understand it the fbi didnt even accept those medical records. And they didnt do the thing that you and other reporters do is go and look and talk to those people, when you have to get across the high bar of the New York Times. Thanks for being here. Coming up, new polling on what voters think of the senates handling of Brett Kavanaugh and what it means for the midterms 33 days away. Its the daily double, a good one, tonights thing one, thing two next. Its time for sleep numbers fall sale on the new sleep number 360 smart bed. It senses your movement and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. And now, during our fall sale weekend special, the queen sleep number 360 c2 smart bed is only 899. Plus, free home delivery. Ends monday. So lets promote our falle a homecomingtravel dealame, on choicehotels. Com like this. Touchdown. Earn a free night when you stay just twice this fall. Or, badda book. Badda boom. Book now at choicehotels. Com ahoy gotcha nooooo. Noooooo. 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And then there are debates where the moderator is the story. Thats thing two. You have 60 seconds. The moderator for the pennsylvania Gubernatorial Debate held this past monday night has today apologized, saying he was naive and failed to recognize the seriousness of the event for the voters. Which may be is what you get when you ask a Game Show Host to moderate a debate. Alex trebek, the host of jeopardy, got almost universally bad reviews for his performance in the debate between pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf and his republican challenger scott wagner. One gop strategist summed it up this way, horrible Gubernatorial Debate moderators for a thousand. Now, when i was asked by the chamber if i would come here and be the moderator for this event, i was not drunk. Theres only one rule that applies to whats about to take place, and it is a rule that i will strictly enforce. I will not tolerate any booing or hissing. What did i tell you guys at the beginning . No booing or hissing. 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Youre from texas. You a marquee race there. Everyone is obsessed with the beto orourke ted cruz. That seems like the kind of place youre hearing from republican strategists and democratic strategists that the kavanaugh fight is engaging and mobilizing conservative activists in red states that democrats need to win. What do you think of that theory . I think thats actually somewhat true. Being back home now and talking to folks, and it kind of at least in a place like texas woke republicans up so to speak. But i still think there is a sizable Enthusiasm Gap between democrats and republicans, and i think this midterm is going to be concussive to the status quo and con cuss alternative the republican party. There is also, cornell, a huge difference between the senate map and the house map, and that is part of the problem, right . Because that senate map is so favorable to the republicans, its so many red states the democrats have to defend, you can sort of get your voters worked up in those states and win in a way that you cant in the suburbs in orange county, california or new jersey . Thats right. And i think, chris, ive thought the Enthusiasm Gap to an extent was fools gold because republicans we know tend to turn out at higher numbers in midterms. The fact that democrats right now even if it drew even for midterms in enthusiasm, i think a win for democrats that we tend to turn out a lot lower levels. Right. Than what republicans do. But when you look at the senate map, what is interesting about this senate map is theyre having to spend a lot of money in places where traditionally they have not had to spend money. When theyre dumping that kind of money into texas. Yep. Its unheard of. And you have right now in both nevada and in arizona really democrats even or if not ahead in a lot of the a lot of the public polling. So republicans are having to spend a lot more money in these traditional places where they hadnt had to and it expands the map for democrats. And laura, one of the reasons i wanted to have you on you guys did this great polling where sort of comparing Public Opinion more broadly around kavanaugh and ford to anita hill and clarence thomas. Its really remarkable. Its getting lost a little in the intensity of this fight. You see there has been a real change in Public Opinion in terms of many more people believing in dr. Ford and opposing Brett Kavanaugh based on what they saw at the hearing. Yes. And what we found specifically in our poll we asked americans the exact same questions they were asked right after the Anita Hill Thomas clarence hearings. And i think in terms of the midterms, one of the big takeaways whereas george h. W. Bush paid almost no price for that entire saga, trump has. 42 of our respondents answered our poll saying they have less confidence in donald trump after these hearings than before. And noticeably, only 24 of respondents said they have a more favorable opinion or more confidence in donald trump since seeing these hearings. And thats significant when you think about Republican Voters and what motives them. We know that the Supreme Court was a motivating factor for Republican Voters in 2016. This should be a moment when donald trump is ride high. Instead, he is only picking up 24 . Right. Of americans, saying, you know, we feel better about donald trump after watching this unfold. More broadly you have 45 of people saying they believe ford. 33 , kavanaugh, 22 unsure. As someone who has sort of lived these politics you represent a fairly democratic district there, but is a class of democratic advice givers who are dont fight too hard on kavanaugh. Youre waking the beast. Pivot to Something Else. What do you think about that advice . Look, i think first of all, i think you got to be true to yourself, right . And those numbers show that a lot of people they this whole thing has been a sham, that its been a trump strategy, the same thing of no apology, never acknowledging that youre wrong at all. Plow through as Mitch Mcconnell said. You saw mcconnell do it you. Saw Lindsey Graham do it you. Seau usa john cornyn do it. They adopted trump strategy and then turned an fbi investigation into what if nothing else changes will end up being a coverup basically. And cornell, it was notable to me that jacky rosen just now on twitter who is the challenger of dean heller in nevada going after him on kavanaugh. She thinks this is a winning issue for her. And it was interesting to see that because youve seen so much reporting on the joe manchins and the Heidi Heitkamps of the world. I think its i think its interesting that republicans think this is a Winning Strategy broadly when you have, you know, by 20 points women think, you know, that he should not be confirmed. If anything, this is going to drive what were already seeing an enormous gender gap when republicans are going to put on the Supreme Court someone the majority of women think is lying about Sexual Assault. And laura, the broader picture here which i think has also gotten lost a little bit as republicans push this through is he is a very unpopular nominee generally for Supreme Court nominee in historical sense, and that was before the nomination. Yeah. He is not doing great when you compare apples to apples. Right. He is not a popular guy before a very credible person accused him of attempted rape on national television. This is not the kind of figure you would think would be a great poster for your campaign, but like the rest of the panelists are saying, it does seem to be motivating Republican Voters, but to the broader question of what kind of moment are we in, is this going to be a defining moment of the election, and it is going to be one about men versus women or some other dynamic. The fact is that the way that this is breaking down is partisan. Yes. Where overwhelmingly, democrats oppose the kavanaugh nomination. They opposed him before all of this. They oppose him now, and republicans likewise. Thats the there is some interesting movement in the middle with independents, and i think thats the place that will be interesting to watch. Yes. Lrgt. Congressman joaquin castro, thanks for coming by the studio. Laura mcgann and cornell belcher, thank you. Ill be appearing this sunday with andrew more rans for talk of make sense of the madness were all living through. Its this sunday at 4 30. 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