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Clearing him of any wrongdoing in the 2016 election, nbc news revealed that that lawyer, who met with the president s son during the campaign has much closer ties to the russian government than previously known. Today, republicans on the House Intelligence Committee released their final heavily redacted report on russian interference in the election, which youll be shocked to hear, the president hailed at total vindication. Yeah, we were honored. It was a great report. No collusion, which i knew anyway. No coordination, no nothing. The report was very powerful, very strong. There was no collusion between the Trump Campaign and the russian people. I was very honored by the report. It was totally conclusive, strong, powerful. Many things said that nobody knew about and said in a very strong way. Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee, as you might imagine, strongly dispute the majoritys findings. Im going to talk to one of them just coming up in a second. And just as the president is declaring basically case closed, were learning explosive new information about that russian lawyer, who met with his son and Senior Campaign officials in june 2016. Now, we knew she had ties of some kind to the russian prosecutor general, who is more or less the kremlins jeff sessions. But now, that same lawyer, natalia vessel veselnitskaya is admitting those ties go much deeper than we knew. The only reason im asking these questions is because of the contacts that youve had with the most senior people who are now in our government. You said your relationship with the prosecutor general is what . S shes an informant. An informant to the prosecutor general. Think about that. This person who met with the campaign chairman, his son, and soninlaw, met promising dirt on his opponent. Where they were expecting to get that dirt on Hillary Clinton. This person is an informant to a top kremlin official. The House Intelligence Committee has concluded its investigation. Special Counsel Robert Mueller has not. And we know for a fact he is interested in the trump tower meeting, because just this week in a court filing on that manafort case, muellers prosecutors revealed a warrant they obtained last summer specifically authorize them to seek, quote, communications, records, documents, and other files involving any of the attendees of the june 9th, 2016, meeting at trump tower from manaforts home. And months ago it was reported that at least one of the people who accompanied veselnitskaya to the meeting had already testified before muellers grand jury last summer. As of last weekend, according to the associated press, veselnitskaya herself said she had not been contacted by the special counsel. Im joined now from estonia by Richard Engel whose full interview with veselnitskaya airs right after us tonight at 9 00. Richard, great to have you. Whatd you learn from this interview . Reporter well, we learned more about who she is, her background, and her version of the story. And about her connections to the russian state. We spent quite a bit of time with her. We actually interviewed her twice in two different cities. And she told her she told us that her purpose was to shed light. This is her official story, on what she believes is a grand conspiracy being perpetrated against the United States of america. And she believes that sanctions on russia are based on lies and false reporting and she says she was simply there in trump tower to shed light on this matter to the officials who were prominent americans, meaning those people who were at the trump tower meeting. But she did say also, that as part of her own investigations, she had come across damaging information about Hillary Clinton, some of her donors that she wanted to share. Then, we also came across some of this email correspondence that youve been talking about, that shows she has links to, or certainly, connections to the and influence over the russian Prosecutor Generals Office. Yeah, tell me about her relationship to yuri chaika. Because he is mentioned in the email approach to don junior. The email approach, i forget the term thats used, its the crown prosecutor, i think crown prosecutor. Thats right. That hes the one thats sort of driving this. So what is her relationship to that man, yuri chaika . So to set up a little bit about what youre saying. This meeting didnt just happen overnight. There were calls back and forth and emails back and forth trying to establish who was going to come, what kind of meeting they should have. And there was this key figure, Rob Goldstone, who was communicating with a family of Russian Oligarchs, a Russian Oligarch and his son. And in this communication, Rob Goldstone says that the crown prosecutors office, apparently has or the crown prosecutor has apparently this information, damaging, incriminating Hillary Clinton and is willing to share. And then he describes that there will be a meeting set up with a russian government lawyer. Now, there is no crown prosecutor in russia, so it is widely presumed to mean the prosecutor general, who would effectively be the crown prosecutor if there was a crown prosecutor. The meeting take place, that government lawyer is Natalia Veselnitskaya, she says or initially said she is not a government lawyer, only that shes just a regular lawyer who wanted to talk about sanctions and wanted to bring this information to light about Hillary Clinton. Theres also emails that you got, if im not mistaken, from mikhail korkovski who is an oligarch who fell out of favor and prosecuted by vladimir putin. What do those emails show. So on one track, you have this relationship where she called herself an informant for the Prosecutor Generals Office and you have that email where Rob Goldstone says, were going to set up this meeting with this government lawyer, whos got dirt on Hillary Clinton. Thats one track, which she makes the statement herself, which you just played, describing her role. It will other track are these emails. These leaked emails that we received from this former Russian Oligarch. He was once the richest man in russia. Then he fell out of favor with vladimir putin, escaped the country, left the country, and is now living abroad. He says he obtained these emails through an anonymous source. And these emails appear to show a back and Forth Exchange in which veselnitskaya is offering comments, editing, and in some cases it appears to be dictating sections on an official russian government response to a request for information from the u. S. Justice department. So the fact that she would be able to do that, according to these emails, suggests that shes not just some private lawyer, a concerned citizen, who happened to be meeting in trump tower. It would suggest that she says shes an informant, but these emails suggest that she has the ability to work on the same document and exchange paragraphs with and in some cases dictate the language of an official government response to a u. S. Justice Department Request for information. Richard engel, i am going to be walking this in 51 minutes. Its great to have you with us. I cant wait. Reporter thank you. All right, you can watch richards full interview with Natalia Veselnitskaya with a special edition of on assignment with Richard Engel tonight at 9 00 right here on msnbc. While the president is touting the report released today by the republicans in the House Intelligence Committee, the democrats say the report does not present a full picture. It reveals some very interesting new information about who donald trump jr. Was talking to in the runup to that trump tower meeting. According to the report, trump juniors phone records show two calls to and from the same russian number on june 6, 2016, three days before the meeting take place. That number appears to belong to evan agalarov, the russian pop star, remember him, and the trump Business Partner who was the one who helped initiate the meeting. And heres the interesting part. The phone records also show a blocked number at 4 27 between the two calls between agalarov. Corey lewandowski told the committee that Donald Trumps primary residence has a blocked phone line. And two days after those calls, donald trump made a big announcement. I am going to give a major speech on probably monday or next week and were going to be discussing all of the things that have taken place with the clintons. I think youre going to find it very informative and very, very interesting. Congressman Eric Swalwell is a democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee. Lets talk about this first. There are calls between don junior and agalarov. There was a call in between. Was the committee able to determine anything about that call or whether don junior talked to his father . Good evening, chris, no. The republicans who held. The subpoena power were completely unwilling to subpoena donald trump jr. s phone provider, who would have been able to tell us who that blocked number belonged to. We have a lot of circumstantial evidence that suggests that we would want to know whether or not candidate trump knew about this meeting. He was in the building. He was just one floor above where the meeting took place. He was very close with the agalarov family, who asked to set up the meeting. So the fact that he wouldnt have been a part of it or had any idea, it just does not make much sense. He was exchanging gifts at the time with the agalarov family, who were sending him a birthday painting just a couple of days after. And then, of course, theres the timing of what he was telling the world would be coming. And just a couple days later after the meeting, Julian Assange tells the world that theres hacked materials that will soon be released. We could have found out this information. I dont think the republicans wanted to know the answer. I just want to make sure im tracking this. Because it seems important. And it seems important in sort of fairness to the president here, to make sure we know whats going on. Don junior talks to agalarov, theres a call with a blocked number and then he talks to agalarov again. What youre telling me is that the committee had the power to subpoena the phone records and figure out what that phone call was, and to show that it wasnt to his father, if it was to his father, and they refused to do that . They absolutely refused to do that. And we asked donald trump jr. To provide those records to us or to ask himself what the blocked number was. He refused to provide that as well. There are a number of ways we could have done that. And also, just remember that in the email thread on june 6th, donald trump jr. Is talking to Rob Goldstone, who says, let me connect you in a few minutes, 20 minutes, 2008, the emin. So the timing matches out and donald trump told us in our meeting that he believed the call was to emin. Its a mystery to who was called in between. But it would make a lot of sense if it was donald trump sr. , considering Everything Else that was going on. Am i crazy to think that if it wasnt donald trump sr. , they would have been eager to provide that information to you . It would seem that they would be very, very eager to rule donald trump sr. Out, but again, in every every time we got close, and there were so many other circumstances like this, the republicans were unwilling to take that next step, where we could use our committees subpoena power, to get bank records, phone records, travel logs. The same thing with Michael Cohen. Remember, he adamantly denied he was in prague, and all we asked us, just give us one record to show you were somewhere else when you were over in italy or london, which we know you were in those places in the summer and fall of 2016, and the republicans refused to subpoena that. And he refused to turn over any records. Wait, with i want to be clear about this again. This pig question was, Michael Cohen in prague, you said, hey, just show us some stuff so that we could rule it out and asked the republicans to say, hey, lets subpoena some records so we could rule it out, match your alibi, and they declined to do both. Thats absolutely right. All right. Lets theres a new piece of information in this report as far as i can tell about the nra. And i havent known what to make of this story. Its a really interesting one. Its skirted around the edges of this story about whether, essentially, someone connected the kremlin, a man by the name of Aleksandr Torshin was using the nra as a back channel. Ill read a portion of the report to explain it. Theres a reference to an email. It goes on to say that they were going to use the nras annual convention to make First Contact with the Trump Campaign. We know that don junior did, in fact, meet a russian politician at the convention. What should we make of this . The subject line of that email which was not in the report was kremlin back channel. And we saw that type of subject line or approach wait, with what was the subject line . Kremlin back channel. So we saw that so many times through other witnesses who were also approached. And so you had different people making approaches to Trump Campaign members or family members, where that subject line or the essence of that message was being conveyed. Sorry, i want to make sure, who received the email line with the subject line, kremlin back channel and who did it come from . Rick dearborn is who received the email and it came from paul erickson. Who was connected to the nra. Rick dearborn got it. And jeff sessions, did he get wind of this email . Rick dearborn had been the chief of staff to jeff sessions. So, of course, Rick Dearborn was questioned. Now, chris, im limited in what i can talk about as far as witness testimony, because the transcripts were not released. I have to stick within the parameters of whats in the report. But, you know, donald trump jr. And donald trump, his father, did go to the Nra Convention where Alexander Torshin and maria bu tina, two russians, also attended in may of 2016. Congressman eric swal level, thanks for laying that out for us. My pleasure. Still ahead, a legal setback for trumps former campaign manager. The new gaping hole in Paul Manaforts Defense Strategy and what means for both his upcoming criminal trials, next. But im not standing still. And with godaddy, ive made my ideas real. I made my own way, now its time to make yours. Everything is working, just like it should you know whats not awesome . Gigspeed internet. When only certain people can get it. Lets fix that. Lets give this guy gig really . And these kids, and these guys, him, ah. Oh hello. That lady, these houses yes, yes and yes. And dont forget about them. Uh huh, sure. Still yes xfinity delivers gig speed to more homes than anyone. Now you can get it, too. Welcome to the party. Former donald Trump Campaign chair, paul manafort, failed today in an attempt to block further criminal charges against him. As a judge tossed out his challenge. Writing, a civil case is not the appropriate vehicle for taking issue with what a prosecutor has done in the past or where he might be headed in the future. Manafort, a man who is wearing an ankle bracelet on each leg will have to face a bevy of existing charges in his first of two public trials beginning in july, unless he flips. To help figure out what this means for manafort, im joined by nance, harry litman, and former federal prosecutor, renato mariotti. Joyce, let me start with you. The judges ruling today, whats your takeaway from that . Its the correct ruling. In a criminal case, there are a variety of mechanisms for a defendant to judge the validity of the lawsuit. He can file a motion to dismiss. He can challenge jurisdiction. What manafort did was to go outside the confines of the criminal case and to file a separate civil lawsuit. He tried to challenge muellers legitimacy, really, as a special counsel in that lawsuit. And the judge properly dismissed that. Renato, right now it seems like the path is cleared for a trial some time in the fall. What would that trial look like . Well, it would be a excuse me. It would be a lengthy trial. There would be many, many witnesses. A lot of documents and records. There are many cases that excuse me, there are many charges against manafort, complex charges like money laundering, for example. Charges related to his various disclosures of bank records. So you would literally have witnesses coming in from various entities, talking about how their records are kept. Talking about his, you know, talking about where he kept his bank accounts, for example. You would have his associates talking about how he ran his operation. You know, his lobbying efforts, for example, and what he was doing there. So it would be a pretty lengthy trial that would focus on some arcane, you know, arcane financial transactions. Harry, theres also some developments happening in the Michael Cohen seizure that happened in the Southern District of new york. He was raided by the fbi, his lawyers and the president s lawyers teamed up to say that the government shouldnt be able to review the files and sort out the privilege from the nonprivileged. Today, a federal judge appointed whats called a special master to review materials seized from trump lawyer, Michael Cohen. What does that mean . It means its an officer of the court. Someone who works for neither trump cohen neither the government, someone who will be reviewing the documents and try to call out which are privileged, which seem to have indicia, advice from a lawyer. Which were told by the United States are fairly few. They expect and have represented to the court that cohen really wasnt so much a lawyer as a kind of businessman, fixit guy. And if theyre right, there wont be that many documents that the special master will identify. But the special master will have the first shell have the first crack at it. And will report to the court in the collaboration with the parties. And joyce, it seems like the president agreed. Yesterday on fox friends, he said theres not that much there, because he said hes barely represented me as a lawyer. Yeah, thats exactly what he said. And its really interesting, chris, because originally, there was some equequivocation. You know, was cohen acting as a lawyer . Was it just a business deal . But the president put that the rest saying on this one small piece, at least on this Stormy Daniels mess, the president said that cohen was acting as his lawyer. And that opens a whole host of questions. Because we know that that 130,000 payment was made very close in time to the election. Was probably made to influence the election. And so there will be an inquiry possibly in the Southern District of new york into whether that payment violated Campaign Finance law, either as an illegal contribution, or because it was an unreported payment. A lot more shoes to drop on this one. And then, meanwhile, Michael Cohen, whos got a whole bunch of different legal issues hes got to deal, hes got the civil suit from Michael Avenatti representing Stormy Daniels. Today he got what appears to be a win. The court finds theres a large potential factual overlap between the criminal and civil proceedings that would heavily implicate mr. Cohens right. A pause in the civil suit being brought against cohen by daniels. What does that mean . When someone has a criminal investigation and a civil lawsuit about the same matter going on at the same time, judges try to way the prejudice against in this case Michael Cohen with the prejudice of Stormy Daniels. For instance, Michael Cohen has a constitutional right to take the fifth. He ordinarily would be doing that in the criminal investigation. But in the civil lawsuit, in the suit by Stormy Daniels, if he took the fifth, that could be used against him. The jury or the judge could assume that the answers to his questions would have hurt him. So, Going Forward with the Stormy Daniels lawsuit would have put him in a pickle. And thats why the judge weighed that versus the harm to Stormy Daniels, which, frankly, shes telling her story on tv and her lawyer is all the time. So, you know, there was not much of a harm on her end of the equation. Michael avenatti, the lawyer there, is quite a character in his twitter feed, i would recommend to you. Which every post ends in hashtag busta, which means stop in italian. Harry, it seems to me that one of the subtexts of the judicial rulings in the civil case against Michael Cohen is, this dude is going to get indicted. That is very much between the lines my sense from reading what this the judge in that civil suit say. Thats not the subtext, thats the text. The text says, i think an indictment is coming. And you know, something thats really telling about both the oterrell opinion and the berman opinion, as joyce said, the burma opinion was very straightforward. No wane manafort could win that. And as renato said, this was the right call also in the cohen case. Yet, both of these judges were extremely comprehensive and thorough. This 24page opinion, as you say, and oterra saying theres an indictment likely. Its the president s attorney. Theres real consciousness on the part of both of these judges that could what otherwise look like pretty pedestrian matters are, in fact, really freighted with history, but certainly consequence because of the trump overlay. Did it read the same to you, joyce . It did. I think harrys analysis is exactly right. Neither one of these rulings was a surprise. They were both pretty straightforward matters of law. But the judges do understand that these lawsuits are going to shape the course of history in a significant way. They were very careful. And its important to note that judge berman was very clear that although she was ruling in the civil case, that the civil case wasnt the correct vehicle for this decision to be made. She wasnt in any way intimating what her ruling would be on the criminal motions challenging muellers ability to indict manafort. Thats still to come. You know, in both of these rulings, and all the stuff ive been parsing, its like, you can see the shadow of the shoes yet to drop sort of cast over the entire proceedings. Its really, really ominous in the language. Joyce vance, harry litman, and renato mariotti, thanks for making time. Thank you, chris. Paul ryan makes history by firing the chaplain of the house. The outrage bipartisan reaction to that, next. Play do it like this. [music plays] when everythings connected, its simple. Easy. Awesome. Democrats and republicans in the house are outraged after paul ryans unexplained dismissal of the chaplain about the house. They sent a letter about the forced resignation of patrick j. Conroy. Ryans office wont say on the record why conroy was effectively fired. The chaplain pointed to a prayer he gave on the house floor during the debate over the gop tax cuts. As legislation on taxes continues to be debated this week and next, may all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all americans. Conroy told the New York Times after that prayer, a paul ryan staffer came down and said, we are upset with this prayer, you are getting too political. And that ryan himself then told him, padre, you just got to stay out of politics. Joining me now, charlie pierce, writer at large at esquire and kristi mcgrier. Charlie, already shaking your head. Why . Well, i just dont think theres anything more paul ryan can screw up in this job. Firing the chaplain . I i this is unprecedented to me. I go back, by the way, in event of episodes like this, i go back to what would jimmy do. Mr. Madison didnt even want congressional chaplains. Im starting to think he had a pretty good idea. There is a question of, what exactly is a congressional chaplain for. But let me give the devils advocate argument. I thought it was fairly persuasive. You know, it should be a nonpartisan position. That does seem like a pretty clear like needling. And if you think that the house chaplain is using his position to kind of like subtly, you know, orate against your legislative priorities, like, i can understand being angered by that. You asking me this question . Yes. I think its the silliest thing ive ever heard. The guy is a priest. Hes there to pray. Hes drawing his prayer, as near as i can tell, strictly from the gospels. You know, theres an old saying among we former altar boys. If a sermon makes you uncomfortable, figure out why it makes you uncomfortable, dont blame the person delivering the sermon. Theres been a lot of bipartisan sort of angst over this. Heres what peter king had to say, republican from new york on the chaplain. Take a listen. I have seen no evidence as to why he should be removed. And its such an unprecedented action to me, and it would only be taken if there were very, very serious issue. And the speaker said it was only because certain people were not complying with his requests. And i dont know that from anyone. So a few things. One, i mean, arent we exhausted . I know. When this first story like, theres so much going on. But now im just like, i just want to know. I literally just want to know the reason. Come out and tell me the reason. We know this entire Administration Just lies. So were not going to get that. But this is the house. This is a different place. This is paul ryans domain. And these are the same sick sycophants who have been cosigning trumps agenda for months. We also know that the jesuits are the social justice wing, essentially, of the catholic church. I dont think see whats wrong with this sermon, considering when the republicans were trying to sell us this tax bill said that this was something that would help all americans. So now, his sermon, which i would say mimics some of what the republicans were trying to sell to the american public, youre now saying is too political. I just want to be clear, here. That the official this is i want to read the ryan statement. I want to give them their due here. They are saying, the speaker made the decision he believes to be in the best interest of the house, and he remains grateful for father conroys many years of service. Thats on the record. Officials if that office will say, we had nothing to do with the prayer. This is all getting blown out of proportion, yada yada. But we also have to look at the republicans who are following up saying, well, you know, maybe we need to find someone who is a religious person, but has a wife. Which is very interesting, which means you will not be looking at women, for the most part. It will be a hetero normal male, someone with kids who understands the job. And why do we just have a christian chaplain . Ive been a part of many universities where theyll have a buddhist chaplain, a catholic chaplin, a christian, a muslim, and all the different faiths, sometimes theyll have up to 12 to 20 yeah, various chaplain offices in the university. And its nice. Whats really frustrating that paul ryan can never get his lies straight. But this one is, when you sold that tax bill to the american public, or, you know, sort of pitched it, before they voted, it was ostensibly to make everything equitable for all americans. Right, no winners, no losers. Especially the down trodden. Thats essentially what the chaplain was saying and now its too political. There is something revealing if its true, in fact, what the father says, that they came to him after that prayer. You mentioned the comments of representative mark walker. He is helping lead the search for the next chaplain. Hes the cochair of the prayer caucus. And charlie, i would like you to respond to what he says hes looking for in his next chaplain. Take a listen. He says, ill read it for you, im looking for somebody who has a little age, that has adult children, that kind of can connect with the bulk of the body here, republicans and democrats who are going through, back home the wife, the family. Uh, well, first of all, that leaves jesus out, just to name one. But, i mean, this sounds like the republicans want to have a primary for the next chaplain. It really does. That sounds like something you know, the next chaplain is a good family man and here he is, you know, playing with his grandchildren, and you know, standing in front of the flag at the Little League game. Im telling you, im starting to get more im starting to move more and more towards James Madisons position. No chaplains at all. When you pray, please close the windows and doors and go pray in your office. Yeah i think theyre mimicking also what weve seen from this administration. When we look at all the various nominees, the vast majority are heterosexual white men. Which we should be clear, as far as i know, the case with the fired chaplain. Yes, thats true. This is not a blow against diversity. But hes setting it up so hes not even opening a window to possible diversity, right . And i do think its moving obviously in a protestant direction, not a catholic direction. Soy mean, i think if we knew the reason why the chaplain was dismissed, beyond, you know, some members of the body felt uncomfortable. Well, which ones . I thought this was a democracy. Are there certain complaints . Is there something we should know . Should there be a committee that looks into what these sort of uncomfortable situations that members supposedly had . Insufficient pastoral care, apparently. Charlie pierce and christina grier, thank you both for being with me. Still ahead, the impact of this president on the history being made right now in the korean peninsula. But first, tonights a plus. Thing one, thing two, next. Thing 1 tonight. President trumps phonein interview on fox friends is still creating a buzz. Last night, i was on latenight with seth meyers talking about the sheer bizarreness of it all. When youre interviewing the president of the United States, you push that as long as you can. Right. You have a million questions, you keep them there, keep them there. Its like a scene in the movie where theyre tracing the phone call. But it was the opposite. They treated him like he was a crazy caller on their callin show and they had to get him off. By the end of it theyre like, well, you know, youre probably busy. And hes like, no, im pretty good. Ive got all day, really. And while fox friends were having a hard time wrapping the president of the United States, their body language was a sight to behold. You can see on their faces that they are slightly horrified. Steve ducey does a patented grimace grin. He really is a pro at the handtoknee motion. And after Kellyanne Conways big announcement on fox and frends this morning, better get ready for some more grimace grins. Thats thing 2 in 60 seconds. So, today, president ial counselor Kellyanne Conway gave a big thumbs up to President Trumps performance on fox friends. And the president was able to cover so much with you yesterday and appreciated the platform. Because it connects him with the american people. Not just on fox news, but that really was t buzz around the globe yesterday, in large part. Because everybody had to replay your clips. Yep, the president s phoner certainly was the buzz, though the buzz it generated was, lets say, not entirely positive. But never fear, the president plans to check in with those fox friends hosts according to conway, again and again. Theresident has said that he would like to, perhaps, come once a month and, as news breaks. Hell come to wait, come to fox friends once a month . Yes. All right. Wo fantastic. That would be great. Pretty much a monthly basis. The most powerful tv show in the world. Well haveo wait until the next edition to see if the president really does have a million things to do. There is no collusion with me and russia. All right. And everyone knows it. We could talk to you all day, but it looks like you have a llion things to do. Well, you could i hope you can join us again. 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That rhetoric has tempered recently, in no small part thanks to the deft hand of president moon, wh has been cajoling and flattering President Trump all year. I think president moon of uth korea was very generous in saying that we helped make the olympics a greatuccess because of the fact that as you know there was tremendous animosity, there was a tremendous problem going on and all of a sudden people started buying tickets because whole different feeling when north said wed love to go to the olympics. To help figure out what this means for north and south korea and what President Trumps role might be in any possible peace process, im joined by nbc News Korean Affairs analyst victor cha. Hes a Senior Adviser and korea chair at the centeror strategic and international studies. And tim sharek a writer for the nation raise in japan and korea and has been writing about korean politics f several daktds. Victor, let me start with you. The questi, why did yesterday happen . Well, i think it happened for a variety of asons, chris. One is that the Trump Administration has had a sanctions campaign along with ten u. N. Security Council Resolutions on north korea thats been pinching the economy. I think your point earlier about trump and fire and fury and threats o war also compelled both the north and the south to think about trying to find a diplomatic solution. And i think kim jong un also felt like it was a good time for him to pause in termsf his testing. Testing of Nuclear Weapons, testing of ballistic missiles. Hes already stated hes completed his ogram and is ready now for dialogue. So i think for a combination of all those reasons thats why the north was interested in dialogue. And in south korea president moon has been waiting for this moment when the north would open the door so he could then engage with them. Tim, whats your read on it . Well, i agree with victor. I think that the impetus for this came from president moon, though. I was in korea a year ago when he was running for president , and i saw him at several Campaign Rallies in the city of qiangju in the southwest. And he held up a picture of himself with his predecessors who had the engagement policy called the sunshine policy, kim daejung and nom jae woo. He spoke about the need to end the crisis between the u. S. And north korea. And that was the gamble he took, and i think hes won his gamble. And i think he played an incredible role in getting getting these pares together and actually getting the summit with President Trump together. Hepoke last year about the need not to have a war, the u. S. Should not launch an aggressive unilateral strike on north korea, and he really moved to encourage diplomacy. And when kim jong un finally answered him in january of this year and said heas willing to talk, he immediately responded and we saw what happened in the olymcs. So i give enormous amount of credit to president moon and the movement, the Political Movement in south korea that backed him for his run for president. Victor, what do you read as what the u. S. Does next now . Well, ihink this summit has really set up this u. S. North korea summit. The two leaders of north and south korea have pledged themselves to peace, to a peace treaty, but all of that is not really going to be realisticly possible unless there is denuclearization. And while there were some statements about denuclearization at the summit between the two Korean Leaders, there still are lots of questions about whether the north Korean Leader is really ready to give up their weapons. So this summit has had the effect of even increasing even further the expectations that are put on donald trump to see if he can convince the nor Korean Leader to give up his weapons. Thats the next step in all this. And the United States is going to have to work hard prior to at meeting to try to prenegotiate the terms of some sort of nuclear deal because right w it doesnt really appear evident based on what weve seen from the interkorean meeting that just concluded yesterday. Tim, am i wrong that to victors point it seems like heres where you start to get some daylight between the u. S. Position and moons position. Which is the u. S. Seems intent on denuclearization as a sort of threshold issue and then any kind of staged, maned process of normalization afterwards. Im not clear thats where presidt moon is, right . Well, i think president moon wants denuclearization just as much as President Trump does, but think he sees it as more part of the staged process. And i think the really critical issue also, not only what will north korea do or what will north korea agree to, but will the United States end its decades ofostility toward north korea . The North Koreans constantly say they want t u. S. To end its hostile policy toward them, and thats when they will negotiate. I think the u. S. Has to reay take that seriously and move forward and take steps to convince north korea that it is not interested in regime change, that it is not interested in attacking north korea, and really does support a peace process. And the other thing i would say is this agreement, which the panmunjom statement which came out in korea is really important, and i would encoura your viewers to read what the two koreas agreed to because they decided they state very clearly they want to determine the destiny of the korean nation on their own accord. This means they want to do it without pressure from other countries, witho involvement from other countries. And i think thats really critical. So there is some difference. I think there may be some difference. Victor, it seems to me also that i guess i feel like maybe the catsut of the bag on the nuclear issue. Is it crazy to think theyre not going to give up t Nuclear Weapons that theyve completed the testing they need too and essentially the windows closed that . Well, i think thats certainly the north korean preferred strategy. I mean, i think they would pref not to give up all of their weapons, to be able to keep some, to negotiate down some of their capabilities but in rurn get normalization, a peace treaty, and recognition as a Nuclear Weapons state. I think they want to have their cake and eat it too. For 25 years the u. S. And the position of all the other powers habeen if you want those things, peace treaty, normalizatn, you have to give up the weapons. And theorth koreans thus far have talked about denuclearization of the korean peninsula, which is a nice phrase and it sounds good but its a step much shorter than what they agreed to in 2005 and in 1992, which were much more denitive expressions of an intent to denuclearize. Although theyve g theyre further along. 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