Clinton has been reviewing carefully prepared materials, looking to refine her experiences and ready herself for the unpredictable. Trump by contrast seems to mostly be winging it though he is holding debate prep meetings including one yesterday. Sources tell nbc news he resisted addition of a traditional coach or full skit rehearsals or reading briefing books. He has not sources say done a mock debate with a specific time limit to mirror debate conditions. Trump told himself quote i believe you can prep too much for these things. It can be dangerous and you can sound scripted and funny. Among those are disgraced chief roger ailes and Crist Christie and laura ingraham. Joining me now is christina greer, author of black ethnics, race and immigration. Eric bowels, kathryn opinion columnist and matt welch. Is this all i this some b big i remember a line great political philosophy. He said a rap battle in reverse. They are both like im so terrible. No, no, no im really terrible debating. Eric, is this some we recalled expectation gainsmenship. She knows these briefing books already and shes probably reviewing the tax codes and immigration and trump is kind of like you almost feel like animal house when the germans bomb pearl harbor. Thats where he might end up with the debate and the interesting part is tony schwartz, the ghost writer and the interview with the new york magazine, which was probably the most interesting look with trump and schwartz kept emphasizing he cannot concentrate for more than three minutes especially when the topic is not donald trump. We have no idea. They are not going with a traditional approach because he cant focus on anything for more than three minutes. If there is one unified principle of trump its unpredictable, both to friends, enemies and trump himself in a sense. Thats how he seems more off the cuff is because he doesnt do any preparation. We dont tell isis what our plan is to destroy isis. We dont tell nato allies were going to defend them and we sure as hell dont prepare anything because if we prepare something, maybe it will leak out and Hillary Clinton will find out about it or maybe it will make donald trump sound scripted. In 2012 mitt romney cleaned his clock. It was amazing to watch. He did it and this isnt really wasnt well cataloged at the time by using an obama line that obama himself used in the debates of 2008 how middle class is smashed or hammered and you could see the recognition. That element of surprise i think is crucial to trump. He needs to wrong foot clinton. My theory would be that the things that hes been sitting on, believe it or not, there are things he hasnt said in his campaign. Its hard to believe. This is where good debate prep comes in because hopefully, you know, one, clinton wont come out and essentially john kerry herself. She has so much knowledge. Shes by far 10,000 times smarter than donald trump, but she cant come out and go into the weeds of all types of policy. That wont come off as authentic. Trump will then really shine in that moment but she really needs someone on her team, i thought it was going to be Anthony Weiner who would be a great signing partner. Perfect. Who would be a perfect sparring partner to bring in this element of surprise. When we talk about isis, you bring up Monica Lewinsky or something random in left field and very third grade and elementary. One thing id say about that. Part of why romney excelled is how well prepared he was. One thing so evident was he had tremendous command of like he could talk about policy. I want to get a little for a reminder of donald trump debate style during the primaries. Take a look. You said in september 30th that isis was not a am i talking or you talking, jeb . Im talking. You can go back. Youre not talking. You interrupted me. September 3rd jeb, no. Am i allowed to finish . I never attacked him on his look and believe me, there is plenty of subject matter right there. That i can tell you. Youre really getting beaten badly. I know youre embarrassed. Keep fighting, mitt. Dont worry about it little marco. Youre the lying guy up here. Ive given my answer lying ted. First of all, this guy is a choke artist and this guy is a liar. Let me talk, quiet. Out of time. I know its hard not to interrupt not what you said in the op ed. Lying ted. That same matter of principle. Youre probably worse than jeb bush. This little guy has lied so much. Here we go. This is a tough business to run youre a tough guy, jeb. We need to have a leader that is real tough. Youre never going to be president of the United States by insulting your way to the presidency. Im at 42 and youre at 3 so so far im doing better. Doesnt matter. And he referred to my hands small, sometng else must be small. I guarantee you there is no problem, i guarantee you. I will be honest i blocked most of that out. [ laughter ] it got me excited all over again. Here is why i think there is two things that will be different here. One well, three. One, the audience. Not a republican primary audience. Things that sold in republican may not sell in the general. Number two, its not ten people on stage or eight people or four people. Its one person. He never had to do one on one. Number three, the one person is a woman and frankly, a lot of that stuff which was macho sort of fake match cow. Also bullying. It reads very differently when the recipient of that is a woman. I would say the fourth thing is, four, hes never been on stage with someone as smart as Hillary Clinton experience and knowledge. [ overlapping speakers ] some of them are smart. Put that in quotes. None of them have been secretary of state and spent eight years in the white house, even as a first lady, which is the hardest unpaid job one of the hardest jobs. Those credentials are important but im not sure how closely they map on to performance in a debate. For Hillary Clinton, it will be difficult but at the same time, hes not used to dealing with the level of excellence Hillary Clinton can bring. Shes a senator. Donald trump is essentially ted cruz but honestly, like, i dont think the level o intellect matches what he will see on the debate stage. There is a question inexperience. I dont know if i agree with that. How this bullying with a woman yeah on the debate stage works. It doesnt work. Its a disaster and rick lazzio did a mild impersonation of donald trump when he approached her famously on the stage. In that senate race back in 2000, walks towards her famous moment, walks towards her and invades her personal space and badgers her into signing something. New york voters arent like that. It would be a disaster if trump tries to bully the nominee. Lets give him credit for the intelligence he has, which is he knows performative intelligence. Thats not a small thing. The best zinger, the best line is when he was going back and forth about jeb bushs mother and jeb bush says she is the toughest best woman i know and he says in the mic, maybe she should have run. That was a good line and that was devastating. Hes very good at honing in on peoples insecurities. And their achilles heels because its typical quintessential bully behavior. Hillary clinton, if there is one person who has a weird callous over those, its Hillary Clinton. A new ad out from donald trump. A tax plan of his own. Even though he doesnt know it. Thats next, stick around. Dad, one second i was driving and then the next. They just didnt stop and then. Im really sorry. I wrecked the subaru. I wrecked it. Youre ok. Thats all that matters. vo a lifetime commitment to getting em home safely. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Someones hacked all our technology. 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That is pretty generic, short on substance but political reporter spotted all kinds of discrepancies in the ads fine print which sites two plans, one trump explicitly ruled out and another hes yet to endorse. The ad sites the house gop tax plan in the working family section and an analysis of the plan in the millions of new job section but trump hasnt endorsed the plan unless hes doing so in the ad. The ad goes on to sight trumps hold tax propels, even though it was erased from trumps website after he gave a new speech on the policy. When bengie asked which tax plan trump does support, his old version or neither, the Trump Campaign confirmed the policy changed since the initial tax plan but revised it would have a similar impact. Bengie joins me and christina greer. Bengie, eagle eyed, what walk us through you got the house gop plan, his old plan and new plan. It is weird for them not to site the one actual current plan hes running on. Yeah, they are trying to sort of recreate it as this frankenstein monster in bits and pieces. For example, his new plan which hes not given a lot of details on has three tax rates of 12, 25 and 33, which is similar to the House Republican plan but most definitely not the House Republican plan. Alan sloan for example pointed out there is a giant 1. 2 trillion reduction the House Republican plan would end. Now Trumps Campaign argues on the other hand, well, he changed a lot about the tax plan when he raised it but in the end a business tax part will be similar to the one that was scored before. We dont know that yet. Theres not a lot of details but worth mentioning here, the size of it, the previous tax plan was estimated to be 10 trillion. Larry kudlow says it could be less than 3 trillion. These are not apples and apples. The broader point to me is the amazing policy of this campaign. Frankly. Really. Weve seen it with the immigration, what is he . Is his immigration view and jewel it doesnt take them seriously. People, us in the press go chasing around. There isnt this is like literally that ad is her america will be bad and youll be screwed and my america will be good. Were the same but worse. And now everything will be good and people will have jobs. Thats actually the level of policy detail. The less they say, the more they expect followers to go for them and its working to a certain extend for now in this view of particular people who are really into i hate obama, not exactly sure why because your kids are in Public School and you have obamacare and hes single handedly saved the International Economy but they dont want to recognize that. They just want trump good, obama slash clinton bad and no policy. In fairness to the idea about president ial tax plans, this is really one of the classic goenrs of fiction. The president s dont make tax plans for the most part and what they campaign on and how they end up governing thats not true. George w. Bush. Not related. George w bush literally ran on the plan he got passed. He said he would do this. There were fights and he got elected and do it. In the current context of the people working, no one is working on tax reform. We got to reform corporate taxes and the level of 15. Reminiscing in the break about the hermann cane plan in the day. Nobody in washington is working on these big tax ideas. That stopped happening. Right now were talking about a level of abstraction. You can say that about virtually any policy. Nothing is happening. But a president has a lot more impact on immigration policy. What donald trump says about enforcement has a lot more to do what he can do with his fingers. As an executive. Bengie, go ahead. The reason we havent had people working together in tax reform is because we had divided government. If trump took over, there is a chance as president he would have a senate, house, he could work with that are both republican. This is something that can happen. In some of the changes, you can sometimes make without going through a filibuster. There is ways to do this. I doesnt think its so crazy to suggest its pretty relevant when donald trump proposes as his tax plan. Chris mentioned they do get passed in some form. Your point is important because i think the press, part of the press is waiting for him to run a conventional campaign. They are waiting for him to come up with policies that make sense. Still waiting for him to release his tax returns, still waiting for him to do a regular debate. This is so unconventional. Throw that away. I would rather have a press that tries to hold his feet to the fire on policy issues than just talking about the size of his hands all day. Bengie and i have bengie, we have been doing this for two weeks on immigration. At one level it matters to me. I covered that immigration fight very closely. Very closely. I got really emersed in the details of immigration reform, which are really complicated and sometimes more than advocates of reform or liberals with instincts. Most people are interested in really knowing. My point is the complexity is cut both ways. You sit somebody down and think through the issue, its hard. Its been a week or two weeks trying to pin down what it is. The job is to get out and the same level it feels ridiculous because they dont, they dont care. They obviously dont care. That ad proves it. Thats my point. You guys need to get your act together. Right. Dont ignore the rules. I will say i think that has had an effect on immigration. I think part of the reason they have been doing this, you know, sort of sending up balloons and cancel the speeches because frankly they recognize they have but bengie, they think nobody is paying attention but they did, which you caught. Right, this is something going on for awhile. You mentioned immigration but, you know, what were trumps actual signature issues during the race . I would argue lets use the word innovative was the muslim ban. He put out a specific statement saying im going to ban literally every single muslim from entering the country. We have no idea what his plan. Its still on his website. This is a playbook they used on issue after issue, after issue. Its hard to say what core policy is left. I suppose its building the wall. Yes its not clear what the wall we were reassured by an advisor today in the 8 00 p. M. Show that it will be physical barrier. My big question i asked is whether its which side of the rio grande it gets build on or through the river. Thats tbd. Thank you. That includes you at home. Its late, were just getting started. Stick around. You live life your way. We can help you retire your way, too. Financial guidance while youre mastering life. From chase. So you can. 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Facebook is apologizing for featuring it. I love this story because there was such a brew ha ha about this scandal that these contractors who were picking the trending list were censoring and had a big meeting with Mark Zuckerberg and stop doing that, this was exactly why they were doing that because there is all sorts of stuff that goes nuts and gets shared on facebook that isnt true. So you have to have someone there to make sure that thats not the case. Its also there is a value to human ke hum human curation. There is a value to my job that the robots havent displaced those particular skills and this happens to be one of them. Picking out what a buy on a flash sale. People with good style, a computer cannot fully replicate human judgment on particular tasks that require human intelligence. Bringing it back to donald trump, this is the problem with a candidate like donald trump which is he constantly refers to the internet as though it is a real life place. Yes. That is filled with only factual information and when you push him on it, hes like its on the internet. Ive not surprised for him to reference, they kicked out megyn kelly. That would be 100 possible. I will not bet against the fact, he will reference this story. This is a huge embarrassment for facebook. They bought into this phony outrage machine. There was one article, all this liberal bias. They were so scared because the Republican Party got involved. They wanted to have hearings and knew it would be a campaign issue. There was no there there to the story. They end up last friday firing the humans and this is the perfect outcome for facebook. This is what happens when you give into the phony outrage. Standing up for employees and saying were human and smart and know how to do this. If you have proof, we have our thumb on the scale, let us know. There is a great piece by john hermann, my favorite writer in the New York Times magazine how they hacked the facebook and they are on the left and right and particularly powerful on the right that only exist on facebook and some are quite profitable. What they do is create content that they know they sort of weaponize on that platform. So does msnbc sure, no. Everybody, facebook is the gorilla. Everyone is trying to figure out how to deal with the alga rhythms. These places, there are a bunch of sites just native to facebook are better at it than us and also, are unconstrained by the stories being truthful. That story went viral. It was not true. They did not actually get rid of megyn kelly. Thats part of why it went viral. It was so crazy and outrageous and Everyone Wants to click on it. Thats why you need some sort of there has to be something. Cant facebook just buy snopes. It is still going. It was started by a husband and wife team. 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I think its personally not a good thing. I think its a terrible thing. And, you know, hell maybe he should try a country that works better for him. Let him try. It wont happen. Joining me now, the one and only cohost of espns highly question, still with me the panel. Ive been watching you interact with folks. Whats your feeling how all ofr . There is divides. The divide is as much as anything ive seen a topic in sports but not divided in such a way where every white person is on the opposite side of Colin Kaepernick. Thats the not case at all. Everyone opposed do appear to be white. There is a lot going on. You get this oh, this athlete is entitled thing. Theres also people that feel like as a general matter of decorum its disrespectful, which is a valid argument, you do this as a sort of expression of decorum but also, i think part of what is interesting to me is it seemed to come out of nowhere, like it didnt seem like he was trying to make a he was obviously trying to Say Something with choosing to sit, but also, wasnt sort of going out of his way to release a statement and responded to being asked about it. Yeah, i question the argument he was making the statement by sitting down. He made the decision he wanted to sit down. If he wanted to make a statement, there is a lot better ways. It would have been noticed the week before and the most recent, there is literally a couple people that noticed it happen in the first place. What happened is, they asked him and he had the audacity to tell the truth and the circumstance than anybody i can remember. Thats what flipped this up. The argument he was trying to go out of this way to make a disrespectful play to the National Anthem is contradicted by it took people so long to notice this. You noticed something that lacks class if its really that unclassy. That is a great point in decor decorum. It was personal expression but not showing. Its not rosie grabbing her crotch and spitting. Lets be clear, modern day athletes dont necessarily speak up the way i think they could and should, but we come from a long line of black athletes who have chosen to protest in various ways. Jackie robinson didnt stand up during the anthem. We have, you know, jim brown. We have kareem abdual jabar and muhammad ali. If we have a real conversation about race and role and sport and black man, donald trump, said if you dont like it, go back to africa. Thats essentially what i may have heard. [ laughter ] or go to wherever they are playing football to this level of quality, which is like, what, canada, maybe on good day. You bring up an excellent point. Historically when there is a sports protest that has to do with race and patriotism, we all look back on it fondly. Everyone looks back on mohammed al allys bravery or the 1968 and juan carlos and tommy smith. Those were not popular at the time. They were almost universely very unpopular. They lost their livelihood. People affiliated with them lost their livelihoods. Their lives were destroyed for making what seems like a minor stand in a sports entity but hundreds of black people were, you know, think about jack johnson having the audacity to fight a white man and win. Black people were murdered because of that. This is is big. There is the fact the nfl puts a lot on their patriotism and in fact, one might say military how they celebrate a specific type of patriotism. There is a lot of controversy in the fact they were charging the pentagon to do a lot of things that looked like actually just pro bono expressions of gratitude for veteran service. This is also specific to the nfl puts interesting in that context. I think remember this, the number one Television Program in america right now is sunday night football on nbc. The theme song has a line that calls the game a star spangled fight. I never did figure out what exactly that means. That tells you how much this is baked into the marketing of the nfl. The similarity in game changing. You cant lie about how closely linked these two things are. For this to happen in the nfl does have a different magnitude i think than it would be if this happened in say, the nba, in this game that sells military links, this is very, very important. And my hot take is literally its a free country. I guess i understand there is people i heard from them and seen people who feel offended by it because they feel like its an act of disrespect. Its a free country but for whom . When a black man who makes millions of dollars has the audacity to exercise his right as a black man, as a man in this country, then all of a sudden, we have conversations of how disrespectful it is. We saw this with Gabby Douglas having a totally different conversation than ryan lochte and a woman that chooses not to put her hand on her heart. Sometimes it takes an athlete to draw attention to something. Were not seeing drew brees say listen, well sit down because what is going on in the street is horrible. I dont mean to call him out specifically. Drew brees is one of the person that criticized kaepernick. One thing important to note and i wrote a column for the undefeated. Com about this its excellent. People should check it out. The stand at play here was not sitting for the National Anthem, that wasnt noticed. The stand was the actual expression of the grievances he had. I feel like in overall in this discussion, we really got into this matter of decor and how you should or should not behave in the National Anthem and whether or not youre obligated to stand for it and what that means if you obligate people to pay in that way. The statement here is what kaepernick actually had to say. There are a lot of people who waded into the waters very much so protecting what they had. This could literally be the end of kaepernicks career given where his play has been and the plays for black quarterbacks. Its hard for black quarterbacks to get second starting jobs in the first place. He made the call if it all ends here, hes good with it. I havent found anything yet that im willing to say that about. Monty jones who you should be checking out and reading and listening to. Great pleasure. Thanks, man. Thank you. The rest of you are sticking around, that includes you at home. There is more delicious fresh content coming your way. Doctor about your medication. 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He and an unidentified woman exchanged messages and today his wife huma abedin said she and wiener are separating and he used the news to be careless and negligent in allowing wiener to have close proximity to classified information. Yahoo news documents in some depth. Trump recorded videos on platforms and sent 75 tweets about the sexting and one member of trumps inner circle said the issue is personal for trump. The panel still with me. And eric, i want to let you tee off on the coverage of this. I thought you probably had strong thoughts. I thought it was ridiculous about the reason this is a campaign story. Right, it has nothing to do with a campaign and i think trump introduces a comment and so were going to cover it that way but this idea of the New York Times is kind of presenting and casting a cloud over the campaign. Hillary clintons aids husband acts like a jerk. How does that cast a cloud over the Clinton Campaign . Are we doing this aids husband weird built by association . Its not a campaign story. It seems to me like there is too many journalists pressed up against the window and trying to watch a marriage unfold and pretend its politics and a lasting impression. Its not. There is no reason to pretend it is. I think that also speaks to the republican candidate who is so quick to pounce on it. Were in an era right now where someone running for the highest level in american politics is glued to twitter and sending off and page 6. Like the lowest level of gossip hes obsessed with and its completely not a campaign issue. This is unfortunate issue. This is, i think, someone who is incredibly brilliant and human and he has an issue with his wife. Why trump needs to marry trump with five children by three different women, why hes obsessed with someone elses marriage is the pot calling the kettle black. Partly, i grew up in new york. You know, i would go out to the bus every day and take the tabloids there and newspaper boxes and its like he was he occupied that space. Donald trump, it was the most Public Affair in america. By his own doing. He wanted it. I think its like weirdly some sort of jealousy of attention because by all accounts of people close to imhim enjoyed when he was the guy who literally was having the most famous cheater in america for a certain period of time. I remember, the new york torew tabloids couldnt get enough. Hes lecturing people. For the New York Times to suggest the Clinton Campaign is a hurdle. Voters are care about this. Hillary clinton will have to explain this. Come on. I think readers roger ailes. Readers do care about it. Its a juicy story. Who hasnt talked about it . Not in a campaign context. Human is an important figure and this is her husband. Its going to be talked about and the picture, ive said leave wiener alone and i meant it but you see the picture of the kid and you go jesus christ, you got to stop it. That, all the purens from the beginning that was a bad idea. That is true for five years. A lot of how can we make this news worthy. For the political press, thats my point. Everyone looks, its a train wreck, there is humanity involved. Everyone should get past it why do the tabloids have all the fun. Why are we pretending this is polling or debate prep. Its not. Nothing to do ill say one more thing. This is a broader point. I dont know how finally crafted it is. When people talk about huma and him. I think we still dont have sort of public consensus on what spouses connections are to what their spouse does in public life and thats true of jenny thomas and clearance thomas and true of tom back when he was the majority leader in the Senate Passing a bail and his wife was a top lobbyist and what should his wife do . Not do his job. There are a bunch of unresolved questions that have to do with spouses being coequal partners and the clintons are the perfect example. They are the number one example in which we have unresolved instincts about what we count as conflicts or what we count as public when it comes to marriages. These are two very powerful people. Thats part of drawing of eyeballs. You had a congressman on the up and up and huma. All right. Gene wilder passed away today. Very sadly. Well remember him after this break. Dont go anywhere. Some great clips. announcer vo who ysour sk phone always has to be at your desk . Now, with one talk from verizon. Hi, pete. Im glad you called. announcer vo all your phones can Work Together on one number. You can move calls between phones, so conversations can go where you go. Take your time. Im not going anywhere. announcer vo and when youre not available, one talk helps find the right person who is. 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It wasnt that popular when it came out. Thats the shocker and the producers but willy wonka became a colt performance. Its funny. Ive read the book to my kids, particularly my daughter who is older and unclear that darkness isnt quite as evident. It can go either way. Its pretty dark. Phis performance is so brilliant and dark and effective. My introduction was with Richard Prior see no evil, hear no evil. I think his chemistry with Richard Prior, they are two of the best comedy duos weve seen. There were not a lot of movies back then. It was very unusual to have them share the marscreen the way the did. He did Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein in the same year. Most comedians cant. My understanding is he agreed to do blazing saddle to get him to do the other movie. Right, right. And because he knew that would be like he would have this incredible role. And he actually did five movies in 1974. Five. Hes also close with gilda radner. He counseled her and visited her with shoes tied to an umbrella she said her father did to make her feel safe. Seems like he never really know people like this, you have these sort of personal conceptions you form. The statement from his family today was heartbreaking because he had al timers and one of the things he said he didnt want people to know because he didnt want people even one more person to be sad in this world and to have seen him and willy wonky is heartbreaking. There is something about someone who has a career like he does where he has roles in the public imagination and doesnt keep kind of making a ton of movies so you dont watch him age. Client eastwood i think of a crazy old person talking to a chair. Ander man. I know what he looks like old. Gene wilder, the news seemed wrong because in your head its amazing how much the impression sticks with you for the duration of your life. Back to willy wonka you would find what day of the year they would air it and circle it on the calendar. It was like a natl holiday. Like wizard of oz. The last successful black face is gene wilder in silver streak. Its done in the correct way. We have black face in the news today. A cartoon about Hillary Clinton in black face less successful. Tweeted by pastor mark burns who is a trump surrogate. Dont do it. Thats my free advice to everyone. You think of doing black face, dont do it. Thank you both so much. Thank youall so much for joining us. Thats all for this evening. The Rachel Maddow show starts now. We got an we have an unusual show tonight in this sense, a big show. We have two exclusive stories tonight. One of them sort of run of the mill exclusive and one of them not at all a run of the mill exclusive. The more standard story we have although it is exclusive to us tonight is brand new polling. Brand new polling youve not heard it anywhere else, we will be breaking it on the show tonight. You keep hearing this year how American Voters dislike their candidates, candidates have bad favorability ratings. Tonight we will be breaking news on brand new polling that shows, i think, for the first time ive ever seen, a favorability number for a candidate that registers as nil. It registers so low it could not even be measured