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Good evening. Im Chris Matthews back in washington with a special edition of hardball. Hillary clinton and Bernie Sanders were facetoface tonight in their last scheduled debate of the democratic primaries. Lets get to one of the big moments of the night. Clinton was quick to bring up sanders interview with the New York Daily News last week provoking this fight about which candidate has the judgment to be president. If you go and read, which i hope all of you will before tuesday, senator sanders long interview with the New York Daily News, talk about judgment and the kinds of problems he had answering questions about even his core issue, breaking up the banks. When asked he could not explain how that would be done. Lets talk about judgment and super pacs, money which is completely undisclosed. Where does the money come from . Do we really feel confident about a candidate saying shes going to bring change in america when shes so dependent on big money interests. Its not an attack on me, but its an attack on president obama. You know, let me tell you why. You may not like the answer, but ill tell you why. President obama had a super pac when he ran. President obama took tens of millions of dollars from contributors. And president obama was not at all influenced. When he made the decision to pass and sign dodd frank, the toughest regulations on wall street in many a year, so this is this is a phoney, this is a phoney attack that is designed to raise questions when theres no evidence or support to support the insinuations that he is putting forward in these attacks. Well, Hillary Clinton was also challenged about her assertion this week that vermont supplies the most guns connected to crimes in new york. Lets watch that exchange. Are you seriously blaming vermont and implicitly senator sanders for new yorks gun violence . No, of course not. This is a serious difference between us and what i want to start by saying its not a laughing matter. 90 people on average a day are killed or commit suicide or die in accidents from guns. 33,000 people a year. I take it really seriously because i have spent more time than i care to remember being with people who have lost their loved ones. So, yes, we have a problem in america. We need a president who will stand up against the gun lobby. We hear a lot from senator sanders about the greed and recklessness. Manufacturers and dealers in america. Well, she didnt answer your question. [cheers and applause] you asked her whether she thought that vermont was responsible for a lot of the gun violence. You made the point which she said was totally absurd. I asked her are you seriously blaming vermont and senator sanders for new yorks gun violence, she said no, but go ahead. Why did she put out that statement . Excuse me. I think im responding now. Please. Go ahead. A statement that was refuted by the governor of the state of vermont who was a supporter of hers who said in campaigns people tend to exaggerate. With me now from the site of tonights debate in brooklin. Are we getting the word right now how theyre spinning this. Lets start with your campaign that youre covering, Hillary Clinton, did they say they won tonight . Reporter they say they think they had a strong night and were still waiting for them to actually come out to the spin room so we can get them to flesh that out a little bit more, but here is what they are touting. They think one of the strong moments was when senator sanders seemed to not be able to point to a specific instance of her accepting money from paid speeches from wall street corporations translated into her lack of action in terms of taking action against wall street. He gave a broader answer and she said you cant answer. Then you saw part of that exchange that you played over guns, this is one of her signature issues as you know she has been campaigning with some of the mothers who lost sons to gun violence and senator sanders was asked does he owe the sandy hook victims an apology for saying he doesnt agree with that legislation that they have pursued, essentially which would hold manufacturers accountable for gun crimes. He said no i dont owe them an apology. They think that was a Strong Exchange for secretary clinton. There were some strong moments for her. Over the transcripts she was pressed repeatedly on why she hasnt released those transcripts yet of the paid speeches she received. The Clinton Campaign divided about this strategy of not releasing paid speeches. So they think all in all this was a strong night for secretary clinton, but there is no doubt what we saw tonight are these two candidates who are locked in this fierce fight right now for new york which could determine this race moving forward. Okay. Thank you. Lets go to kasey hunt. Bernie sanders looked like was his last best night to win this thing. He was red faced, smart as hell hitting every point he could, i think it was his real attempt to put her away tonight. I dont know if he did it or not. What are they saying . I think that what you saw was exactly what the Sanders Campaign tell graufd was going to happen which was he came out on that stage determined not to let her land a punch on him without making sure he was hitting back as hard as he could. There were dispensing with this concern that weve heard about over the course of the past couple of months that maybe he would have a moment where he would go inappropriately after a female candidate on stage and come out looking the worse for wear. He came into this ready to go back and forth with her and he went right into it and i think youre right that they view this i wouldnt go so far as to say its a last stand, but there is a recognition that this is really a proving ground in many ways that is going to determine how the last month or so of this campaign goes. While he did push back on her and there were those transcripts as a tough moment for Hillary Clinton, i think thats right, but Bernie Sanders also didnt necessarily prosecute that case against her and he got a little bit tripped up when she turned and started focusing on his tax returns. What is his excuse . The taxes were turned in more than a year ago and he says jane is still working on them. Its one thing to say its april 15th tomorrow. A lot of people are rushing the deadline right now, but what about the 14, 13, the 12 and he says my wife is working on them. Thats passing the buck. Its like he was going to call her up and say where are they. I thought it was ridiculous. Hillary should have gone for the jugular on that baby. Maybe shes still worried about the 625,000 she got from Goldman Sachs. Great report. Im watching this and i think i did tweet this is a boxing match. Bernie is like the guy who sees the cut on the eye and he keeps hitting it and hes got a rack. He says that with joy. He says i got you on a rack. I got you on the 625,000 you took for those great speeches you gave. He just nails her on that stuff and he wont quit on them. No, thats his whole campaign and the main cut he thinks he has, the main place he thinks he has hillary bleeding thats what it was like today. Was on money and politics. Its all about the corrupting where are the transcripts . Everything that bernie does funnels into that one question about the corrupting influence of money. Its preventing us from Getting National health care, its preventing college education. He pounded. Now if this were a boxing match i think he did cut her and she did bleed and shes the champ and you have to knock out the champ. I dont think he did quite either, although i thought he was very strong and i thought she was a little too legalistic here at protecting her lead. I think if you had a silent look at this tv show, you would say one older guy flailing around red faced demanding time every second he wasnt talking he was going like this, i want it back. Hillary smiling away she was smiling with one look and she was pounding him with the other. She was pounding away pretty hard too. She has the confidence of a frontrunner. Think about where we were in 2008 at this point where the race was arguably much more contested and obama started to pull back as the frontrunner. She went in for the kill especially on the gun issue. She said things that i hadnt heard her go that far saying he is one of the most reliable voters in terms of the nra on guns. That was his wound. The main issue really is wall street and the corrupting influence. The subtext has been that somehow Hillary Clintons Campaign Contributions have effected the way shes voted in congress and this is the first time she had an opportunity to put that to rest and to call sanders out on that and say what are the examples. Hes going to go looking for them now. Its a little late. I thought there was a womens moment there tonight where the majority voter which are women was a tag opportunity. When he started to laugh about the gun violence and she said its not a laughing matter, i think a lot of people were lost up in the talk of how to deal with the banks and dodd frank, but they were following guns because everybody walks the streets afraid of getting knocked off. Theres a lot of violence on the streets even in new york. When she went through the number of People Killed by guns or suicides or murder and he tried that chuckle like she does and i think he got caught off base like that. Dont laugh about gun violence. He doesnt have a good answer. If he wants to stand by the vote he took, this is exactly the wrong time that you want to be doing that when this lawsuit up in connecticut that the sandy hook families are pursuing that the judge has decided this should go forward and he is day before on the record saying he doesnt support exactly that type of legal case. I want to get to robert here. I think it was i dont want to say this because i think theres some great issues in this campaign, i think he behaved tonight like a big shot. On the fundamental issue of his campaign, money and politics, hes going back to the heart and soul and trying to revive those disengaged democrats and bring them to the floor and say im here for you, but he has the cut on his eye of his candidacy when it comes to gun and she had the poise of a frontrunner. She kept her cool and you see the secretary right now poised to do well in new york. Im struck by the use of language of bernie thats like donald trump with different issues, but the same direct talk by bernie and the fact that he and donald trump overlap on a number of things especially in Foreign Policy. Again, this time though bernie is the guy on the outside looking in. Right now trump is on the inside. If there was if theres ever an easy way to pick out people, hes the dobb, shes the hawk. But saying she supported the iraq war, she supported going into libya, she supports a nofly zone in syria. On every point she was to his white. I think were looking also forward a little bit to the general election because if you listen to her answer on libya she doesnt have a great answer and she wound up at the end of the day putting it on president obama. Thats not going to be good enough. Shes going to have to come up with a better answer. Most of the time she was wrapping herself in obama except for libya. What was worse her putting it on obama or him putting it on jane. I have not heard a discussion at this level of a president ial campaign about isreal and pal stine. It was gutsy, but it means he knows hes not going to win new york state. Hes not going to win new york state and rather have his credibility intact. Hes not close enough to win and thats going to be part of his explanation for why he didnt win because he had the guts to go on pal stine. Im going to think more about that. Thats really disconcerning because i think its an easy competition to get into. In new york it always happens. In a way this was historic. It was pointed out hes not but he never went there. Never went. This is great stuff. Still ahead to hear from the top officials of the sanders and Clinton Campaigns, theyre coming here. Governor cuomo is coming here. This is a special edition of hardball. We needed 30 new hires for our call center. Im spending too much time hiring and not enough time in my kitchen. announcer need to hire fast . Go to ziprecruiter. Com and post your job to over 100 of the webs leading job boards with a single click. Then simply select the best candidates from one easy to review list. You put up one post and the next day you have all these candidates. Makes my job a lot easier. announcer over 400,000 businesses have already used ziprecruiter. And now you can use ziprecruiter for free. Go to ziprecruiter. Com offer99 he called out president clinton for using the term of super predator. It was a racist term and everybody knew it was a racist term. But where we are today, if we have a broken criminal justice system, we have more people in jail than any other country on earth. And in my view, what we have got to do is rethink the system from the bottom on up. Welcome back to our live coverage of the democratic debate tonight in brooklin. That was a big moment for Bernie Sanders tonight. He has won eight of the last democratic contests. Hes way behind in new york. Im joined by Sanders Campaign manager. I got the feeling that watching your guy tonight this was the last round of a fight and he was going for the knockout. What do you think . The Clinton Campaign used it as a slur earlier in the process here and i thought he came out strong. I think he was there to debate and i think he did and i think he won the debate. Do you think the money that Hillary Clinton got in the three speaking fees, do you think thats something thats still got some legs on it . Legs . Look, people want to know what were in those speeches. Why did they pay you all that money . In some of these speeches she spoke for 20 minutes. She played more in those 20 minutes than a minimum wage worker makes in a year. What do you think is in there . Lets find out. Who knows. Come on. What do you think is in there . You must think theres something worth looking at in there. We want to see it. Whats that . Did she sell out . I dont know what she said, but if she doesnt want to show us it leads us to think theres something in there that people dont want to hear. I think its interesting to find out what goes on behind closed doors, because lets face it thats why we use the phrase behind closed doors to get people interested in what happens on the other side. When Hillary Clinton said name one place where i sold out because of those speeches. Its not about its not a question of sold out. I think the question was about the Campaign Contributions. Yeah. How come your guy wasnt prepped . How come he couldnt name one time where hillary made a deal and paid it off. She supports the trade agreements and the wall street bailout. She supports the corporate agenda. I dont think its that way. I think people believe certain things. I think there are people who are free traders and people who are not and Bernie Sanders is not a free trader. Hes been against the trade deals and hillary is for them. Thats a differences of position. Come on. You were saying they did it. You said they do it because theyre paid to do it. Thats not what i said. Yes, you did. I asked you give me an example of where Hillary Clinton paid back for something she got from wealthy and you gave me the example of the trade deals was your example. You got it wrong. They dont give her money so she changes her position. They give her money because she like her positions. Thats different. It is different. Thats more benign than accusing somebody of doing something for the money. Why is it that the corporations think shes on their side . It beats being on the take. I think we need a president who people know is on a working peoples side. Let me ask you a question and get back to that question about Hillary Clinton. Do you believe that shes been bought by the money shes gotten in Campaign Contributions or in speaking fees, shes been bought, yes or no. No. What about the line where you said she sold the devil. I said she made a deal with the devil. Whats the difference . Its a metaphor. For what . When you take money from large special interests you cant expect that youre going to be able to regulate them effectively. Thats the way it works. You talked about this when you interviewed me the last time. You go soft on them and youre not as hard on them as you otherwise would be. They have more access. Thats the way washington works. These people are not giving money to candidates for no reason. What i said was and i think you would agree on this, the danger of taking money from any interest is that youre not so aggressive in going after them. Lets face it. Thats the real problem. I think we can agree on that. It is a problem. Of course. I agree with you so stop talking. Jeff weaver, thank you. Youre right on that point. Well be talking again and again. Gun control has loomed large as an issue of course. Lets look at how Hillary Clinton attacked Bernie Sanders over his association with the nra. In 1988 as weve heard senator sanders did run for the congress and lost. He came back in 1990 and he won. During that campaign he made a commitment to the nra that would he be against waiting periods and in fact in his own book he talks about his 1990 campaign and heres what he said. He clearly was helped by the nra because they ran ads against his opponent. So then he went to the congress where he has been a largely very reliable supporter of the nra voting. He kept his word to the nra. He voted against the brady bill five times. Well bring back our panel. Robert, heidi and howard. What was it about tonight, who has been bought and owned and who is in bed with the nra, who has been bought off. Theyre in the tank for somebody. This is serious stuff theyre charging here. Its serious and its not personal between clinton and sanders, what you saw was a referendum on the democratic party, what kind of party is it and whats it going to be. Sanders is raising these questions is it too close to corporate interests. What somebody said the other day a bad word in describing it. Prostituting yourself for money. That notion is the cloud that hovers over sanders argument about the clinton candidacy. And i think clinton keeps coming back to the case that shes ready for a general election, but thats lingering questions on the left about clinton still linger. Go ahead. Heidi, quickly. I think one thing we have to point out about today is there was a theme that clinton came into this campaign to this debate and she kept hitting it over and over again which is its good to diagnose something, but you have to get into the details and she hit him on a number of issues where he was supposing to be hitting her like fraking and if you want to talk about issues in new york state that was supposed to be his trump card. I think he wins the argument about big banks because people dont like big banks, but she was duking it out with him. She clobbered him on what we just showed there on guns. That was a winner. She stunned on that one. I think more generally her argument is look, bernie, i agree with you on the diagnosis as you say of the problems, but i can get us half a loaf here. Youre talking a pie in the sky that were never going to have. Im going to give us down the road. This year its a really tough argument to make. Roberts also right thats whats on trial is clintonism, which was bill clinton joining up with wall street and bill clinton was saying were not going to go with the unions down the line, its not going to be which side are you on, its going to be were going to get together with big business. That worked for a time and thats what hillary said. She says look at the 90s. This is the old left of the labor party. Thats the old left trying to win back what they tried to create. They said no lets go back to the old way. Thank you everyone. Coming up, much more from tonights debate and whether it could tip the scales. I dont think it will. I just dont think it. I think people are going to stay in their corner tonight. Were going to hear from a hillary guy, the governor of new york, Governor Cuomo is going to be here and this is special edition of hardball. We worked hard to keep new york values at the center of who we are and what we do together. This just got interesting. 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And was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements . So they must have been very upset by what you did. Welcome back to hardball. That was Bernie Sanders mocking Hillary Clinton over her position on the financial industry. Clinton hit back on sanders on protecting the gun manufacturing industry. I believe that the law that senator sanders voted for and i voted against giving special protection to gun manufacturers and to dealers is an absolute of responsibility. Decades ago before it was popular in a rural state with no gun control Bernie Sanders said lets ban assault weapons, not see them distributed in the United States. The governor of new york is a clinton supporter. Thank you for coming on tonight. There was winners and losers tonight. Hillary clinton was very strong in going after senator sanders for his lax attitude in fighting for gun control. Can you tell us what impact guns from vermont have had in violence on the streets of new york. Yeah. First, thank you. Good to be with you. Dont underestimate the gun issue in the state of new york. Its a very big deal. Sandy hook was in connecticut. Its just a few miles from new york. Its resonated. This is a big issue. I passed the safe act in new york, which was very controversial, but i believe the smartest gun control law in the country right after sandy hook happened. Look, senator clinton knows the politics of new york also. We have rural parts of new york state and i passed a gun control law and i took a political beating for it from upstate new york Rural Communities so we understand the politics here, but the immunity law for gun manufacturers is an outrage. The only industry in the United States that has immunity by law is the gun manufacturers. Remember what happened, at the time gore was running against bush smith and wesson had signed a safe gun agreement to do away with the lawsuits. The safe gun agreement would have changed the way guns were manufactured, designed and distributed. Bush said dont sign it because if i win ill give the gun manufacturers immunity and thats what he did and thats the bill were talking about. So this to me is the most salient issue that is germane in this entire debate. It matters in new york and its going to matter in a lot of other states too. Lets talk about wall street. The u. S. Congress for years now, almost 20 or 30 years now, is unable members cant take money for speeches. Nobodys allowed to do it because it creates a conflict of interests with lobbyists. Certainly where i work you cant give a speech for money. Everybody knows you take money from somebody its going to look like some kind of deal under the table. Hillary clinton has taken over 600,000 from Goldman Sachs, isnt there a problem there explaining that she wasnt bought. Theyre not giving up on this baby. I hear you and i understand the implication, but welcome to our Campaign Finance system. Thats why i advocate public finance. She took the money for personal use. These were for speeches for her own personal income. I understand. But i think the point is if someone gives you a lot of money, can you be independent, right . Thats basically senator Sanders Point over and over again. The implication is if you take money from someone youre going to be influenced. They do that all across the board. My answer is if you are a person who can be influenced by a contribution, youre the wrong person to be in elected office because theres going to be a lot of temptations. If you can be corrupted, you will be corrupted so youre the wrong person for the business. But even on the big banks, i think what you hear over and over the more they debate, they agree on the what needs to be done. Where they disagree is on the how do you do it . I think senator clinton is more prescriptive on the facts of making change where senator sanders uses a broader brush. As people who have worked in government who actually accomplish things, i understand what senator clinton is saying. You have to get a piece of legislation passed unless you think both houses go democratic it means youre going to have to appeal to the republicans, to appeal to the republicans youre going to have to compromise, et cetera. So she tends to have a more granular analysis of how to get it done. Who is going to win next week and by how much . Hillary is going to win. I dont want to do the points, but i think shes going to win. I dont play the expectation game. It was her home state, she has to win by x. I think thats just setting a bar, but i believe shes going to win. I believe its going to be by a healthy margin, but senator sanders, god bless him, hes run a good campaign. He has a strong message. Its simple and resonates with young people. Hes getting big numbers of young people out in the crowd. So this is a real race and i think the race hes running has to be respected too. What do you think ive got to get this. What do you think of that sweetheart ted cruz speaking of you being representative of new york values. I take it as a compliment. I thought you might. After what he said im surprised he came to new york. If he doesnt understand what it means, tell him to call me and ill explain it to him. Okay. Thank you so much. Governor cuomo of new york state. Up next ill speak to the democratic chair. Youre watching hardball. We needed 30 new hires for our call center. Im spending too much time hiring and not enough time in my kitchen. announcer need to hire fast . Go to ziprecruiter. Com and post your job to over 100 of the webs leading job boards with a single click. Then simply select the best candidates from one easy to review list. You put up one post and the next day you have all these candidates. Makes my job a lot easier. announcer over 400,000 businesses have already used ziprecruiter. And now you can use ziprecruiter for free. Go to ziprecruiter. Com offer99 if you go and read, which i hope all of you will before tuesday, senator sanders long interview with the New York Daily News, talk about judgment and talk about the kinds of problems he had answering questions about even his core issue, breaking up the banks. When asked, he could not explain how that would be done. Lets talk about judgment and let us talk about the worst Foreign Policy blunder in the modern history of this country. I led the opposition to that war. Secretary clinton voted for that war. Welcome back to our special edition of hardball. The two candidates question each others judgment tonight. Whats the battle doing to the democratic partys hopes of winning in november. Im joined by the chair of the democratic committee. First of all, a matter of technical fact here, was this the last debate between these two candidates . Is this it . The candidates previously agreed as you know to an additional four debates for a total of ten and weve been taking each debate as it comes and after the debate tonight will go back to the negotiating table between the two campaigns and the dnc and the networks that want to put on the debate and well take on the next one over the next few weeks. Dont forget us madam chairman. Let me ask you about the question. Do you think this was a tough debate. They used civilized language like judgment, but these were almost questions of character here going after somebody from taking money from Goldman Sachs and still maintain their independence, going to war. These are tough questions that it was a very tough debate tonight even if the language was civil. I think both candidates exercised the muscle for sure. And they demonstrated by pointedly differing with one another not on the goals, but on how to achieve them that either one of them would be a tremendous fighter on behalf of the American People and to go toe to toe with the extremists that are running on the other side of the aisle if we can get them to talk about the issues important to the American People and complaining about the system being rigged and being vulgar every other minute. Thank you so much. Much more on the debate when we return and this is hardball. If i hear you correctly madam secretary, you are now coming out finally in favor of lifting the cap on taxable income and extending and expanding social security. If that is the case, welcome on board. Im glad youre here. Were back with this special edition of hardball. Im joined by francesca. What didnt we see on television . What was only visible and known by someone there . Well, i think that one thing that we all observed was that tonights attacks between the candidates were sharper than in some of the past debates. We saw a different side of Bernie Sanders show up here tonight really willing to engage in attacks with secretary clinton and not willing to back down from a fight. What do you think he was up to because he was really pushing the what i call the wounds on the facing of Hillary Clinton . He kept punching the iraq war and taking the money for speaking fees from Goldman Sachs. He seemed to want to bring her down by hitting the vulnerable points and like hurting her. He was out to win this fight. He wasnt here just protesting democratic sentrism, he was trying to knock her out. The Clinton Campaign understands at this point that they have to do something dramatic to be able to win not just in new york on tuesday, but to win this election and the kind of fight they were fighting before is just not going to cut it at this point. He has to differentiate himself from secretary clinton on the issues that you just stated and the way he had been approaching it in past debates frankly wasnt working. Thank you so much for joining us. Lets go to ken vogel. The differential between previous and tonight. Clearly he was trying to score points again and again. It was like a boxing match. Yeah. A lot of it is stuff they have litigated in the past. Theyre clearly going after the its like a fight and its the same jabs that were seeing over and over again. You could see that stick out to me was just how much on each others last nerve they are. When Bernie Sanders would start to go into his attacks on hillary, she would laugh at him. She would bitter laugh and then he laughed at her when she started to raise the point about guns and she really went after him. It just goes to show you that this is a long campaign. Were winding to the end. Everyone else sees how its playing out that Bernie Sanders is not going to win and this was his last chance to really make a statement before a big primary and i dont know that he really did. His favorite punch was you called them out on wall street. That must have really hurt them. Was that before or after you took their money. The money shes been bought, shes working for them, shes on the take, isnt just the difference, he said shes made bad decisions in her personal life. He is portraying himself as the dreamer and that he can why havent you raised money for the democratic party, ill raise money for them by bringing people into the system. And shes like the wife, no bernie, we cant afford this jet ski. I think it works both way. Its like a broken record. How do you make up for this when you shake hands in philadelphia, oh yeah i accused her of selling her soul to the devil, jeff weaver is saying it over and over again. Its shes my best bet for president now or at least shes better than donald trump. Thats why he looks so uncomfortable when shes saying i did this before and i stood there with barack obama and she said we need to unify the party. Obama never said she was on the take. Its an attack that could hurt her running against donald trump whose whole candidacy is that politicians are on the take. Well have the final thoughts on this debate and the president ial race which continues. Apparently this may not be the last debate although it looked like it tonight. If we approach this arrow as if we were literally in a war, in 1941 under Franklin Roosevelt we moved within three years to rebuild our economy to defeat nazism and japanese imperialism. Thats the approach we need right now. Thank you. Right here in thets a fobottom of the fifth. And thats all she wrote for the young lefty. Now its in the hands of the bullpen. And out comes. Papa john . . . 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He heard her talk about ted cruz and donald trump and abortion and also global warming. She was talking about being the great unifier. With bernie it was laying the ground for why he lost. He said im telling truth on the power. Thats how he started the race. I dont think he hes gone so far. Standing up to hillary. Maybe thats where hes going to end up being the guy who ran on issues. I think thats right and i think this is a like a legacy bay for him particularly on the middle east. He laid out a very robust and unpoelgsic. I know. Thank you both. Happy thursday night. Thanks for being with us tonight. The 1976 Republican National convention was contested. Quite dramatically contested. Gerald ford was the president at that time. He was seen as a very weak incumbent. Not only had he not been elected president , he had not been elected Vice President. 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