Or can the discord among the republicans be overcome . Were going to be smart, were going to be vigilant, were going to be proid ud of o country again. This is an msnbc exclusive town hall with donald trump. From the university of Wisconsin Green Bay, here now, chris matthews. Good evening. And welcome to this exclusive town hall. Tonight, for a full hour, our guest is the frontrunner for the republican president ial nomination, donald trump. [ cheers and applause ] thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Interesting situation here. Were up here in green bay. Right. And my calculations say if youre going to win the general election, you got to win up here. States like wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, nfl places. Sure. Right . I think, you know, certainly itd be helpful. Were leading by a lot. In terms of votes, were millions of votes up on cruz and millions of votes up on kasich. But well have to see what we do. I mean, all you can do is do your best, right, folks . We do our best. Lets talk about [ applause ] before you get to the general election, you got to win the republican nomination. What is wheres your leverage there . Youve talked about north asia, north atlantic treaty, the middle east, mexico, the ability to walk, the ability to say no more trade, the ability to say were not going to buy your oil. Its always leverage, its always im going to walk. What is your leverage are republican bosses w es when you to cleveland when they try to keep you from winning the nomination on ballot . First, the voters. I have millions more votes than anybody else. Its not even close. You know, youve reported on it. Were setting records in terms of republican primaries. If you look at new hampshire, if you look at south carolina, no matter where you look, were setting records. Thats my leverage. And these are people that are really they really like donald trump. They really like what im saying. People that were going to make America Great again. Thats what it is and what my leverage is. Now, without me, they lose millions i think millions of people and nobodys going to have a chance. I will beat Hillary Clinton. And i havent started that process yet. I have two people left. We started off with actually 18 people. Right. And now theres two left. Youre counting jim gilmore. Im counting jim sort of. Let me ask you about the steps you get through. Cleveland is going to be in july. If you go in there short of if you have 1,237, you got it. Right. If you come in short and they try something on the first ballot now, im watching, listening. Mitt romney is up to something. He wants it. You can tell he wants s it. Paul ryan is making himself clearly available with the Statement Last week. What are you going to do if they deny you the first ballot victory . Were going to see what happens. I can say this, chris, were up above everybody else. Were hundreds of delegates above cruz. We just, you probably heard last night, missouri was just certified so i won missouri in addition to Everything Else. Were way, way up in votes. Way, way up. If were a little bit short, i think its a very unfair process. Let me just explain whats the jimmy, six inches, two feet . Let me explain. Normally youre talking about running and have 17 people, 18 people, again, including gilmore. So we have 18 people and during a long period of time, we had 14 people, 13 people, 12 people. You know, in primaries. We had a lot of people in the primaries. So id get 25 , 28 . Those are phenomenal numbers when you have that many people running. So in those early states, which i won, but you cant get 50 when you have that many people running, theres never been so many people running. Im going to come very close to the 1,237. I think im going to beat the 1,237. Were doing phenomenally in new york. You probably saw the poll that came out in new york, Emerson College which is its all about you not getting to 1,237. You going to be Teddy Roosevelt . You like Teddy Roosevelt. In 1912 he didnt get the nomination, he walked out, split the pear, beat the party in november and lost it to wilson. If theyre going to be fair, they got to be very happy. How can they give up millions of people that really feel disenfranchised they dont like you. Theyre going to lose then youre going to have four Supreme Court justices they dont like. You said last night on cnn youre not going to stick to the pledge to back the nominee. You sticking to that . I have not been treated properly. People understand. I dont want an endorsement from somebody that doesnt feel like oh, i love trump, if he wins, hes going to be the guy. I dont want that endorsement. Im not looking for that endorsement, so when they ask me about cruz and the endorsement, i say no, no, put no pressure on cruz. Tell him he doesnt have to endorse me. Please dont endorse me. Right. It doesnt matter. The endorsements dont mean very much. I have great endorsements. I have some phenomenal endorsements. I have senator sessions, Jeff Sessions endorse me. Everybody thought he was going to endorse cruz. He endorsed me because he knows im much better on security. Im better on a lot of things. I watched you, mr. Trump, on every issue. You always talk about leverage, always talk we can walk away from a deal with the saudis on oil, walk away from the chinese, dont have to buy their stuff anymore, dont have to pay for our troops in europe if they dont want to do it. You say your leverage is the ability to walk. Do you have the ability to walk in the republican nomination, can you walk . I can always do that. I can always walk. I dont want to let people down. I have millions of people more than cruz has. I have millions of people now, the system is not a good system. When you take louisiana, i went to louisiana, i campaigned there. I won the state. Now the numbers come out and i have less delegates than cruz. Thats not the american way. I went out as you know, i won louisiana. Big victory. Everything great. But because of arcane rules and a lot of nonsense, frankly, i get i end up getting a few less delegates than cruz. Thats not the way the systems supposed to work. Its not the way its supposed to work. 3 5 of the people we got at nbc says youre right, if you get the most votes you should be the nominee. Im trying to figure out what your alternative is if you dont get it. I dont want to tell you as much as i respect you. I did an interview with chris at the university of pennsylvania many, many years ago. That stuff doesnt work with me. Keep on is that a true thing . It is true. You were a celebrity even then. I was a celebrity. Lets talk about something. I like your question of leverage. My leverage is the voters, chris, just to end it. I have millions more votes than inelse. Was Teddy Roosevelt right to walk . Studied well, i think possibly he was, but boy, did that cause a problem. Sure did. Let me ask you about this thing the other day with your campaign manager. Do you think you got to handle it differently from the start with maybe an apology to the young woman reporter . Something like that, maybe yeah. Give her an interview . Something to deescalate the issue and show respect for her . I dont think so. I think if he called up to apologize, i think youd be in the exact same place and people that have seen that tape are going, give me a break, you have to be kidding. But there was contact. Whats contact . I mean, theres contact every time thats what this law says. Unwanted touching, unwanted yeah, she excuse me, she grabbed my arm twice. You see the picture of me looking like who is this person . And getting her off me. What do you make of the bruises on the picture . I dont know who created those bruises. I really dont know. I mean, you know, two days later she comes in and said she had some bruises. This argument infuriates her and a lot of women because youre not showing belief in her credibility. I just gave why would show make up a story about bruises . Why would anybody do that . 15 minutes away in front of a very large crowd, i gave a speech and we talked about that. I said, who saw the tape . And everybody raised almost a, a lot of people raised their hand, threequarters raised their hand. Big audience. I said, who thinks he did something really wrong . I said, stand up, please. Or raise your hand if you dont want to stand up. Not one person in the room. Your exam ra cameras were there. Not one person in the room raised their hand. Were getting its out of control. Political correctness, whatever you want to call it. Its totally whats the right approach, though, if you accidentally bump into somebody, accidentally trip them, you say im sorry. Dont you say some apology and roespect for the other person . I think thats fine. Wouldnt that have been appropriate there . Im not sure he maybe didnt say it there. What he was doing, in my opinion, just in watching the tape because nobody remembers the incident because it was so minor, its not like you know Jupiter Police remember it. Excuse me. I think that they are what theyve done is, i think, outrageous. Theyre destroying a very good person. Hes a good person. Forget about politics. Hes a good person with a wonderful family, four beautiful kids. And theyre destroying that man over nothing. You take a look at that tape and shes grabbing me. Now, maybe i should press charges against her. Shes not supposed to be grabbing me. Shes touching me. Shes grabbing my arm. And im going like this. Im saying, who is it . You know, the News Conference was over. She wasnt supposed to be asking questions. She pushed her way through, came through the secret service, grabs my arm, and i think maybe this was just and let me tell you something, just so you understand, if she went down, she made the statement that she went down, or essentially almost went down. Almost went down. Nothing there was nothing there. She didnt even have a if i give you a little shot on the arm youre going to go, ow. Im a strong guy. Youre going to go oh. Youre going to have some sort of a facial she didnt have any facial she did say in real time that it hurt. When was the realtime . When did they record that. Youre skeptical about her. Im a very skeptical person about her, yes. Why dont you have any sympathy for her . I dont think that look. First of all, she was doing her job. It was my tape. I looked at that tape and we have heads being cut off in all over the world, frankly, but we have peoples heads being cut off in the middle east. Peoples heads being cut off. We have people drowning in steel cages. Heres a woman, and it didnt even look like there was physical touch. That was almost like it was just blocking her away from me. And hes supposed to be a criminal . For that . Yeah, but western society claims that were better with women. Look, nobody respects women more than i do. That i can tell you. You dont respect her, though. Nobody well, you know, shes somebody that yeah, i would say i dont have Great Respect for her. I think for her to do what she did to this man over what he did is outrageous. Its outrageous. She quit her job over it. She must believe in her story. Did she quit or get fired . I dont know. I think she quit. You do . I think maybe the other way. Youll find out. Well find out in court. Lets talk about the well find out in court. The easiest thing for me to do, youre fired. Thats so easy. Thats a very easy everybodys happy. [ applause ] everybodys happy. Theres a middle i cant do that because im loyal to people. And you know, when they went to cruz and kasich, oh, you should fire him, they didnt even see the tape i dont think. You should fire him, you should fire him. I dont do that. If somebody is being, really, i just thought it was a very unfair situation. This is not good for me. Okay . How do you think women react when they see this . The numbers arent good. I think a lot of women would say, give me a break, i dont understand why. I mean, the numbers arent good. The numbers were good. The numbers arent as good with women as they were. But nobody respects women more than i do. Lets talk about isis. Its the number one concern of a lot of people since last week. Right. How do you beat people . When we fought the germans or italians, you know, the army puts their hands up at the end because they know its hopeful. Right. Uniforms. How do you fight people who wrap themselves in dynamite, they get up, brush their teeth in the morning, shave i suppose in some cases. They go off to the airport with the idea of blowing themselves up, killing themselves that day, that morning. How do you beat an army like that . This gets down to something that we havent dealt with before in our history. How do we beat that kind of mentality . We have to be so tough and so vigilant and do things, frankly, weve never done before. They want to die for their cause. Maybe they do and some of them do and, you know, a lot of people are trying to figure out why they do this, how they do this. Theyre recruited. Are they drugged out . Theyre recruited. Are they drugged out when they do it . Whats going on when they walk in and blow themselves up . Are they all drugged out . Is somebody drugging them . Theres a lot of things going on. When i talked about we have to be very careful because we have people coming into this country, its a very bad situation. We have thousands and thousands of people coming into our country, we have no idea where they come from, who they are. Oftentimes, its the second or first generation. Its not the first wave of immigrants. Its these people in belgium had been living there, born there, theyre belgians. How do with you deal with that situation . Look at the guys in boston. They were here. What do you do came here as young kids and became radicalized. Does banning entry into the country temporarily encourage them to be on our side against the terrorists or encourage them to be on the other side . Banning them, i take a lot of heat for it. Chris, theres something going on. 1. 6 billion muslims in the world getting a message from donald trump leading the fight for the republican nomination for president saying, stay out of my country. How does that encourage them to fight isis . How does that encourage them to fight the bad guys . They have a problem, too. They have a big problem. I have been called saying what you are doing is a great thing, not a bad thing. The two are any muslims telling you that . The San Bernardino i have, actually, believe it or not, i have a lot of friends that are muslim and call me. In most cases, theyre very rich muslim. They get in the country . Theyll come in. How do you let them in . Theyll have exceptions. Wait. Chris, chris, with the San Bernardino situation right. Many people saw that apartment with bombs all over the apartment. Yeah, i agree with that. Bombs on tables. See something, say something. Not one person, with all the people they said its racial profiling, thats why they didnt call. You know why they said that . Some lawyer said, you saw this, you better come up with a good excuse. They said its racial profiling. A lot of people saw what was going on in that apartment. Not one muslim. Im with you on this. Of course im with you. Thats not the question. Why didnt they report them . Youre saying ban chris, why didnt they report them . Youre saying ban them from entering the country. They get the message. Everyone in the world. Anywhere theres muslims, you know, they know you dont want them. They get the message. Theyre little more ill disposed po fight isis, a little bit more after that once they say the americans dont even like us. Maybe theyll be more disposed to fight isis. Maybe theyll say we want to come back into america, we have to solve this problem. Cruz is pushing, he wants patrol cars riding in neighborhoods thinks theres muslim People Living there, looking in the windows for plotting. Its an insane idea. Theyre not street criminals. Theyre plotting bombings, if they are. Were going to go up and down the street ths. That will make them more militant against us. Hes toughening up his stance. What do you think of his stance . Patrol cars. We have to look at the mosques, be extremely careful. Were making enemies here. Were making enemies by doing nothing. Were knocking down world trade centers, were shooting planes into the meant gone. Yeah. Probably the other plane was going toward the white house, had very brave people. What are we going to do, sit back and say we want to be nice to everybody . We cant be so nice. Sometimes we create more trouble than we went into. Do you think it was smart to go into iraq . Was it smart to put our troops in the holy land of mecca . I thought it was one of the worst decisions in the history of our country. Are you more hawkish or less hawkish than hillary . Im probably more intelligent than hillary. Answer the question. Are you more likely to engage militarily than hillary . I would never want to make a blanket Statement Like that. I would have never gone into iraq. I said from a very early day, you saw that from the earliest tape, i dont want to bo ingo i iraq. I was a real estate guy, a business guy. Nobody cared that much. There were articles a long time ago, i said youre gong to destabilized middle east. That happened. When we got out, we set a date which was terrible, we should have left some soldiers back. I always said, take the oil. You know who has the oil now . You need Ground Troops to do that. You need Ground Troops to take the oil. I said take the oil. Ground troops and isis. I said keep the oil. We already had the troops there. When we were leaving, i said dont leave, keep the oil. Okay. Your most controversial suggestion was dont take Nuclear Weapons you may have been hooked into this by dont take what . Nuclear weapons off the table. I have been trying to think how we could conceivably use a Nuclear Weapon in the middle l east or europe in fighting isis. Why put it on the table, leave it on the table if you cant imagine where to use it . I didnt say dont take it. I said i would be very, very slow and hesitant to pull that trigger. Why did you say i dont want to talk about it . President s dont talk about use of Nuclear Weapons. We were talking about nato, by the way, is obsolete. You got hooked into something you should have talked about. I think, well, someday maybe. Maybe . Of course. Where would we drop a Nuclear Weapon in the middle east . Let me explain. Somebody hits us with isis. You wouldnt fight back . To drop a Nuclear Weapon into a community of people first of all, you dont want to say take everything off the table. No, just nuclear. Look, nuclear should be off the table but would there be a time when it can be used . Possibly. The trouble is when you said that, the whole world heard, David Cameron in britain heard it, the japanese heard it, a guy running for president of the United States talking about possibly newsiusing nuclear wea why do we make them . Because of what reagan hated and tried to get rid of. I would be the last one to use Nuclear Weapons. Can you tell the middle east well never use Nuclear Weapons . I would never say that, i would never take my cards off the table. What about europe . I am not taking cards off the table. Im not going to use nukes but im not taking any cards off the table. The trouble is the sane people hear you and the insane people are not affected by your threats. I think theyre more effective than you might think. Okay. Your call. Much more from the university of Wisconsin Green Bay and our msnbc exclusive town hall with donald trump coming back. Bleach we do it for the ones who rise before it shines. The ones who labor for what they love. Because at banquet we believe that every dollar should work as hard as the family that earned it. Thats why were making our meals better. Like using 100 natural chicken breast in our chicken strips and adding real cream to our mashed potatoes. So now, theres more to love with banquet. Now serving. A better banquet. I tabut with my back paines, i couldnt sleep and get up in time. Then i found aleve pm. Aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. Im back. Aleve pm for a better am. 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The home of green bay, well, university of Wisconsin Green Bay with the frontrunner for the republican nomination, donald trump. We have our first question from the people here. Go ahead. Hi, my name is quinn. My question for you was regarding your immigration reform. I was wondering if you can offer insight and specific as to what you really hope to change if given the presidency. Okay. Very good question and i think its a very strong question for me because from the beginning, i have been very strong on immigration, on stopping illegal immigration. Just so you understand, i want people to come into this country. I want a lot of people to come into the country, but they have to go through a process, have to do it legally. We have to have a strong southern border. Drugs are pouring across the border. Tremendous problems. Were having tremendous problems with crime. You understand that, everybody understands that. Were going to have very, very strong borders. Were going to have a wall. Its going to happen. Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Chris will say, how are they going to pay, how are they going to pay . I just dont think they will. Thats all right. How high is this wall going to be . Id say a good 35 feet. Its getting higher all the time. [ laughter ] i dont think so. We need to have a country, we have borders or we dont at all. People will come into the country. A lot of people are going to come into the country but come in legally. Okay . Thank you. Can i ask you about one question to follow up on that. It only seems to me, you can build a high wall, build a tunnel, take a boat, get a plane ride, theyll get here. If you lad had to get here to g job, you would. Republ you cant do that with everify. Im very it. I use it. What should be the punishment for you can be youre collaborating with an illegal immigrant. Sure, you can be very, very strong, a huge financially penalty, it can be beyond a financial penalty. Why wont the guys in your party pass it . They dont want it they dont believe it in. Some of them do. Some of them believe it strongly. Others dont. Yoo im using everify on just about every job. Im using it on a new hotel. The person who hires somebody illegally, im not talking about leaf raking in front of the house or pushing the snow out of the way, somebody who hires them to save money on labor. You bring somebody into the country, giving them youre basically encouraging illegal immigration. Thats why this guy or woman is coming here, right . Yes. You can solve the problem with everify and other systems why doesnt your party or you back that . I back it, my party backs it no, they dont. Ryan wont bring it up on the floor. Many people theyre not trustworthy. Theyre not bringing it up. They talk the line about illegal immigration. They like the cheap labor. There are many people dont they . They do in one way, but many people dont. They dont want it. You know what the regular working guy doesnt want it but the business guy, Corporate Leaders want the cheap labor. Chris, we need borders. We have a country, we have borders. Im with you. People are walking i like your line. Either have a country or we dont. Im with you. The way to stop illegal immigration is stop illegal hiring. It makes economic sense. You can do that. I do that on every single job i have. Okay. Lets go to the next question, sir. Good evening, mr. Trump. Hi. Hi. Im chris parker. My question for you is given recent events with minority protesters at your campaign rallies, give me reasons why a minority voter such as myself should vote for you. Im going to bring back jobs to this country. People are going to have jobs. People right now dont have it. Africanamerican youth, 59 unemployment. Go to various places, you go to baltimore, you go to oakland, detroit, you look at the kind of numbers. Im going to bring jobs back. Im taking them back from china. Ill bring them back from mexico, which by the way, is eating our lunch both at the border and with economic development, chris. I mean, what theyre doing i know. Ford is going there, nabisco is going there, carrier air conditioner announced theyre moving to mexico. I will bring back jobs and im not going to let people go. I will make it so theyre going to want to stay here. Nobody contacts ford, nobody contacts nabisco or carrier. They leave, they leave. Thats the end of it. We dont fight to keep these companies here. Were going to fight. Its going to be jobs. Okay . Thank you. Go to china and see the cranes on a friday night, theyre working, theyre building. Their cities have 7 million people. Weve never heard of. Ive been there. Theyre unbelievable. How are we going to rebuild our cities . You talk about penn station in new york being a dump. Laguardia being a dump. Took the train a couple months ago, it takes three days. Okay . When are we going to rebuild our country like europe does or japan or germany . The countries we beat in world war ii have state of the art stuff. Were back 70 years. You know why . Because they are killing us with monetary devaluation. No. With currency its true. Our government we are not building here. The reason is our jobs are being taken out and theyre doing it with deevaluation. If you look at what china has done with the devaluation of the currency, theyre killing us. Cant stop it. Its how much paper you know how you stop it . You stop it by being tough by saying you cant do what youre doing. China is like the grand master, a chess master. You know why they get away with it . Their leaders are smarter than ours. They got our paper. And they have on top of that what are you going to do if they dump that paper on the world market tomorrow morning . We owe them 1. 7 trillion. Suppose they dump all those funds. Were going to be just fine. Oh, really . Were going to be no, no, were going to be just fine. Our number one creditor is going to dump us as a debtor and were going to be just fine . Theyre making were going to be absolutely just fine unless we continue with the program we have right now. We have a high dollar. Take a look at whaths happening in this country. People arent coming here. Our high dollar which sounds good to people, everyone says, thats great, we have a strong dollar. Were getting killed worldwide. Manufactu manufacturing and tourism and Everything Else coming into this country, its not happening. Were getting absolutely outmaneuvered by devaluation. You take your approach, and you signal this everywhere. Nato, those guys got to pay their dues or were going to get out of there. Youre saying in north asia, you say about japan and south korea, they dont start paying more, were pulling out. You say in the middle east, saudis and jordanians and emirates dont start paying, well pull out. Mexico, if you dont build the wall, blah, blah, blah, well cut off your trade. The bargaining technique is based on i dont need this deal. The existing deals we have with the middle east, with europe you dont need them. We dont need those deals . We dont need nato . We dont need nato in its current form. Nato is obsolete. How about the middle east . Were spending so much money. You know what, with fracking and all the things taking place and all the oil canada has, canada has more than almost anybody, when you look at what we have, we arent dependent on that anymore and we very shortly we dont need jordan or the saudis or the emirates . We dont need those countries . People have to pay their fair share. A year ago when oil prices were high, now its lower, theyre still making a fortune. Saudi arabia was making 1 billion a day. Were defending them and getting youre the only one that can cut a deal, that nobody else has been able to cut a deal. They dont cut deals like i cut deals. That i can tell you. Youre willing to walk on all these deals . Excuse any. You walk. Row always have to be able to walk. How do you walk from nato, the middle east, china, all these relationships, just drop them off . Nato is 68 years old. You have countries that are getting a free ride. You is countries that benefit from nato much more than we do. We dont benefit that much. You can turn down new deals bull all these deals weve had for years like nato and relationships with ja fpanjapan. Japan doesnt want a Nuclear Weapon. Of course, why should they . Do you want them to have a Nuclear Weapon . Ill answer that question. We defend a lot of people dont know this, we spend a fortune on defending japan. We spend a fortune on defending germa germany. Right . We spend a fortune on defending south vie korea. I order thousands of Television Sets from south korea. Theyre making a fortune. Theyre a behemoth. So is germany. Because its in our interest. Why arent they reimbursing us . Why arent they paying a good portion of the cost . Fine, its a good argument if you can get it. Ill get it. If the alternative is we walk im the messenger. Ill get it. Going to do it because they like you or fear well walk . Theyre going to get it because its in their best interest. We have to walk, we are to walk. Said south korea and japan maybe having to drop their own Nuclear Weapon capability. I said ill keep it the way it is but they have to pay their fair sure. South korea is a behemoth, they make so much. The ships of the world, great ships of the world. Cant buy televisions anymore unless you go to sony in japan. Last time we pulled troops from the 38th parallel we had a problem, the korean war. Shouldnt be pulling troops. I tell you, the korean war, we compete with south korea. I have buildings in south korea. I get along great with people in south korea. You wont if you pull the troops. The top people cannot believe of course they didnt know i was going to be running for president. They used to tell me, they dont tell me that anymore, they cannot believe they get away with what they get away with. You know who else . China. I have the largest bank. Largest in the world. I have the bank of america building in san francisco. I got through china. I made a lot of money. Condos all over the place with china. I know the chinese better than anybody. Let me tell you, they cant believe they get away with what they get away with. They get with it because we owe them a couple trillion dollars. Im monopolizing here. Lets go. Young lady . Hello. I have a question on, what is your stance on women rights and their right to choose and their own Reproductive Health . Okay. Well, look, im, as you know, im prolife. I think you know that. And i with exceptions, with the three exceptions. But pretty much thats my stance. Is that okay . You understand . What should the law be on abortion . Well, i have been prolife. I know. What should the law i know your principle. Thats a good value. What should be the law . Theyve set the law and frankly the judges i mean, youre going to have a very big election coming up for that reason because you have judges where theres a real Tipping Point and with the loss of scalia who was a very strong conservative, this president ial election is going to be very important because when you say whats the law, nobody knows what the law is going to be. It depends on who gets elected because somebody is going to appoint conservative judges and somebodys going to appoint liberal judges depending on who wins. I never understood the prolife i understand the principle, its human life. What crime is it. Its human life. No, should the woman be this is not something you can dodge. If you say abortion is a crime or abortion is murder, you have to deal with it under the law. Should abortion be punished . People in certain parts of the Republican Party, conservative republicans would say yes, they should be punished. How about you . Id say its a very serious problem and its a problem we from to decide on. Its very youre for banning it. Wait. Are you going to say put them in jail . No, im asking you, you say you want to ban it. Whats that mean . I am against i am prolife. How do you ban abortion, how do you actually do it . You know, youll go back to a position like they had where people will, perhaps, go to illegal places. Yeah. But you have to ban it. You ban it and they go to somebody who flunked out of medical school. Are you catholic . Yes. How tdo you feel about the Catholic Churchs position . I accept the Teaching Authority of my church on moral issues. Do you know their position on abortion . Yes, i do. Do you concur with that position . I concur to the moral legally, to get to the question, heres my problem with it what do you say its not funny. Its not funny. What do you say about your church . The churches make their moral judgementes but you running for president of the United States will be chief executive of the United States. Do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle . The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. For the woman . Yeah. Has to be some form. Ten years, what . I dont know. Why not . You take positions on Everything Else. I do take positions on Everything Else. Its a very complicated position. But you say that youre prolife meaning you want to ban it. The Catholic Church is prolife. Dont talk about my religion. You say youre a very good catholic. I didnt say very good, i said im a catholic. Secondly, youre running for president. Im not. Im asking you what should a woman face if she chooses to have an abortion . Im not going to play that game. Game . You said youre prolife. So is the Catholic Church prolife. This isnt spain. The church doesnt control the government. Why dois the punishment unde the Catholic Church . New testament, render to krerks sars the things that are cesars and gods that are gods. Im asking you, you want to be president of the United States, tell any what the law should be. You say youre pro life. I am prolife. Whats that mean . I am prolife with exceptions. I have not determined what the punishment why not . Because i havent determined it. If you decide to be prolife, you should have thought about it. No, you can ask anybody heres my problem with it, if you dont have a people are going to find a way to have an abortion. Dont believe in what . I dont believe in punishing anybody for having an abortion. Thing i think its a womens choice. Youre against the teachings of your church. Ibelieve we live in a free country. I dont want to live in a country so facistic. That would be invasive, determining of a society i wouldnt be familiar with, donald trump, you wouldnt be familiar with. Speaking so highly about your religious and your church. Yeah. Your church is very, very strongly, as you know, prolife. I know. What do you say to your church . I say i accept your moral authority. In the United States the people make the decisions, the courts rule on whats in the constitution and we live by that. Thats what i say. You dont live by it because you dont accept it. You cant accept it. You cant accept it. Can we go back to matters of the law and runs for president because matters of the law, what im talking about, this is the difficult situation you placed yourself in, by saying youre prolife you want to ban abortion. How do you ban abortion without some kind of sanction . Then you get into the very tricky question of a sanction. A fine on human life, which you call murder. It will have to be determined. A fine . Imprisonment for a young woman who finds herself pregnant . It will have to be determined. 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Could you provide us a little bit of your position on the right to marry for gays and lesbians as well as if youll continue the fight for equality for those individuals . Well, the courts have decided so thats not a subject thats come up. The courts decided. I would have preferred the states making the decision, but the courts have decided. Just a quick furthermore, could you maybe talk about how you might increase equality for people of the Transgender Community . I would say that im going to go by the laws of the courts and the courts is really very much up in flux right now but ill go by the laws. Next question. Go ahead. Hi. Hi, mr. Trump. My name is chris colter. Im wondering what your plan is for addressing rising tuition costs and rising student debt. Would you support things as aggressive as, say, student loan forgiveness . I get this question more than any other question when im with Young College students and theyre absolutely up to their neck in debt and cant get jobs when they graduate even if theyre Good Students in cases and dont know what to do. Theyre really stuck. Were going to work on plan where its going to be extensions, be very low interest. Were going to work on it because something has to be done. Chris, i get that question more than any other question is what are we going to do about student debt . Its an enormous problem in this country. And the biggest part of the problem is they graduate from college, good colleges and cant get jobs so were going to work on it. Yeah. Yes . My names elena colt. Im a retired veteran. Good. Im wondering what your top military advisers are and who your Top Veterans Affairs adviser is. I really announced and im going to be announcing some at the end of this week. I announced a whole list. I gave it out last week. We have Whalid Phares and some tremendous people and frankly as far as the vets are concerned, i thought when you started saying vet, i thought you were going to ask me another question because the vets in this country where being treated horribly. I agree. When you talk about illegal immigration, you talk about theyre being treated worse in many cases than illegal immigrants. Whats going on, its corrupt, the Veterans Administration and its incompetently run, so i can tell you as a vet, youre going to be very, very happy with trump. Thank you very much. Were going to keep up the questionings at the town hall with donald trump after this. I love to take pictures that engage people and to connect us with the wonderment of nature. With the tiger image, the saliva coming off and you got this turni. Thats why i need this kind of resolution and computing power. 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As a fellow politician, some of us are embarrassed about the decor rum of this campaign and just the attitudes and the flavor that this has taken and im wondering what you can do as the frontrunner of the Republican Party to really elevate elevate the issues and get away from the pettiness weve been experiencing. First of all, congratulations, 14 years as mayor of green bay. We have very hard issues. We talk about them. Id much rather talk about the issues than the kind of things that are brought up. Things get brought up. And sometimes they get brought up because its me, and sometimes they get brought up for a lot of other reasons, but i think its very important that we elevate the conversation and i agree with you 100 , i would much rather be discussing nuclear and all of the other issues that were discussing than the kind of things that youre referring to. Thank you, mr. Mayor. Hello. How are you . Good. My name is shana, im a professor here at the communication department. Good. So my question for you is around prison reform. What do you see needs to be reformed with our prison system, and with that, what do you think about drug legalization . Playing into the reform. I think that as far as drug legalization, we talk about m e marijuana and in terms of medical, i think i am basically for that. Ive heard some wonderful things in terms of medical. Im watching colorado very carefully. See whats happening out there. Im getting some very negative reports. Im getting some okay reports. Out im getting some very negative reports coming out of colorado as to whats happening so well see what happens. I think a lot of people are really looking at colorado. For prison reform, i think as you know, our prison system is a disaster. Its a complete disaster. All over the country, almost everything we have, chris, if you want to know the truth is a disaster. Really . Americas not bad. Our military has been depl e depleted. We have a lot of problems. Okay. Why does everybody want to come here if were not great . Everybody in the world wants to come here. Everybody does better in this country than where they came from. Other people have problems, too. I think were better than that. With prisons, we can do a lot of privatizations and private prisons. It seems to work a lot better. What are the problems youve heard about colorado . Everybody wonders about it, who do umt smoking dope . Maybe the guy who teaches philosophy, it might be okay. Does anybody trust anybody whos high to do anything . Im serious about this. Its not recreational drugs. Whats that mean . Theres a lasting negative impact. I mean, you do the loss of ambition. Yeah. I think is there. Theres a loss of something. So that book has not been written yet, but its going it be written pretty soon. Im not hearing very positive things. Hi. Yes, hi. My name is michael. My question is, youre on the record saying there might be riots in the event that youre not the Republican Party nominee. By the way, i hope not. No, i hope not, too. Asking about that, in fact wont be led by me but will be a lot of unhappy people. In the event a brokered convention doesnt award the nomination to you, does your program have any programs or plans to mitt gaigate violence g your supporters . Well have definitely the largest number of votes no matter what happens, the largest number of votes and definitely the number of delegates by far, nobody is going to be close. Will we get to 1,237 . I think so. I hope we will. It will be very nice. Ill do a very good job. But i think we will. If we dont, i cant really tell you what happens. Look, people are being disenfranchised in this country. They looked at me as somebody and they look at me as somebody thats going to bring them back. We havent had you havent had a real salary increase, if youre a bluecollar worker, in over 12 years. Its getting worse and worse and worse. These are smart people. These are people that have always had good jobs. Their jobs have been taken away. Theyve been sent over to china, mexico, and many other countries and theyre not doing as well as they were doing 12 and 15 years ago. I will bring that back. And they know i will bring that back. And im the only one thats going to bring it back. Im the only one that understands the subject, and frankly, im the only one that really even talks about the subject and i think youre going to have some people that are going to be very, very upset if im leading. Now, if im not leading, somebody else has more votes, somebody else has more delegates, thats a different thing. If im leading by a lot and lets say im a little bit short of that number, and i told you before, that number is a little bit fictitious because im not running against one or two people. Right now i am. For the last six months weve been running against many, many people. Yeah. So its really a very unfair standard. But if im a little bit short, but im millions of votes and hundreds of delegates ahead of other people, i think youre going to have some very unhappy people. I hope nothing bad happens, but i think youre going to have some very, very angry and unhappy people. What will you be . I think what will you say to the American People who voted for you in that moment . I cant say yet because thats a very emotional situation youre talking about. I cant really tell you what i will do or what ill say. I can say this. If im way ahead by all counts, if im way ahead, i would be very disappointed. You know, were supposed to be a democracy. The louisiana thing is a terrible thing. I told you before. I won and i end up with less delegates who do you trust in the Republican Leadership . Suppose you come in around 1,150, you think thats a gimmy, you say not a gimmy. You go to john kasich say, john, i need a v. P. , i need delegates. It will get you over the top. I dont want to reveal what i may do. I may you said you may use Nuclear Weapons but cant tell me how youre going to operate the convention . I didnt say i never rule from a negotiating standpoint okay, do you trust anybody, do you trust Reince Priebus to play it fair . Do i trust anybody . Lets put it that way. Do you trust mitt romney not trying to go in there and grab it back . I dont trust mitt romney. Mitt romney was disgraced. He should have won that election. Hes trying to get it i hear. Hes not going to get is. He should have won that election. Mitt romney let us down. Thats an election that should have been won. He choked. He went away. He choked. Just like a dog. He choked. Youre good at this. 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What do they think of this wall idea . Day like the wall and like to be given their strength back. Theseare great people, these are people who can do the job but not allowed to do it. Youre asking the Mexican Government to put a wall up to keep its own people in. No, no, were putting a wall up. Theyre going to pay for it. Theyre going to pay for our wall to keep their people in their country. This could be like the berlin wall, only time to build a wall to keep your own people in. Why would any country pay to keep its on people in . Its never happened except the berlin wall. We have a trade deficit with mexico, 58 billion a year. The wall is going to cost approximately 10 billion. Believe me, they will pay in one form or another. If not, or else what . They could stop a lot of the problem. If you want to become a citizen of mexico, you want to get into mexico, it is impossible. I know. Im not saying theyre not hypocritical. Let me just tell you i know that. They could stop a lot of problems were having by themselves. They dont choose to do it. Not right. And we have a trade deficit, 58 billion so we cut off theyll pay for the wall. This is your strategy in every case. We can walk. No more trade. You have to no more trade with mexico. Absolutely. No more troops in europe. By the way, when i say no more trade, once they know that you are really willing to go that extra length, there will always be trade, but well make good deals. Were making the bottom line is always we walk. You have to be able to walk. Yes. Its unlikely that youll have to, but you have to be able to these could be very tricky. Anyway, thank you. Thank you very much. This argument will continue. Thank you, donald trump. Thank you to the university of Wisconsin Green Bay. And coming up next the big night of politics continues on msnbc with Rachel Maddow and both Democratic CandidatesHillary Clinton and bernie sanders. Tonight from green bay. So welcome to backtoback frontrunners night. Tonight here on msnbc. Chris matthews just hosted that town hall event in wisconsin with the Republican Partys frontrunner, donald trump, and in just a moment weve got my interview with the democratic partys frontrunner, Hillary Clinton. Hillary clinton was here in new york today to do this event that you see here at the Apollo Theater in harlem. But let me just give you the peek behind the curtain here. Let me be honest with you, show you how things go behind the scenes with these things because i think its going to explain a little bit about what youre about to see. So this was Hillary Clintons rally today in harlem. Big long line of people to get in to see