Im chris hayes. Lawmakers in several states are considering making stricter regulations for measles. Five babies have been exposed to measles, ten more may have been exposed, theyre all too young to get the vaccine. People exposed to the virus and are not protected come down with the virus. Health officials are not connecting this case to the one that started in disneyland or the one adult case in cook county, illinois. But the Daycare Center say if kids had not yet received the mmr vaccine, stay home for the next 21 days. California, or disneyland, state lawmakers want to change the law governing exemptions. It would abolish vaccination exemptions for personal beliefs. We should not wait for more children to get sick or die before we act. I really simple size with parents because they are exposed to a lot of confusing information. It can be difficult to sort through what is credible and what is not credible. As detailed by the l. A. Times 13,592 children have personal belief affidavits on file. The overwhelming majority of exemptions are based on nonreligious personal beliefs. According to one of the sponsors, one issue of the recently National Outbreak is how many states allow religious or perm exemptions. All of those golden colored state, 20 states are the ones shaded darker allow those based on personal belief. More on that in a moment. In the midst of the nations current outbreak, california is not the only state considering a change in its laws. A state lawmaker would disbelieve personal law exemptions. And another term for personal exemptions. With the current outbreak topping 100 cases, it is appealing to peoples common sense. Measles is highly infectious. If one person is just starting to get symptoms, all of the kids in that auditorium not vaccinated can get it. It is important for parents to understand that it is not only about their child, but the neighbor with the baby, or the kid down the street that had chemotherapy. It is doing your part to protect your family and your community as well. California which is the forefront of statebased initiatives will see if the tightening of regulations will succeed. Joining me now is ben allen, the cosponsor of that bill. First, how did it get to this point . Why is it the case that california seems to be the kind of epicenter of the outbreak, of exemptions, and the loosest regulatory approach to this. That is a good question, were always the first in everything. We are also a state with a lot of people coming in and out. We have major tourist centers. And we let our rates go too low in areas of the state, and we need to involve the problem and get the vaccinations back up to where they need to be. From affair, given what we have seen in terms of the outbreak, the spector of a disease that went away and is coming back. That are below the herd immunity threshold, this would seem to be a no brainer, is it a no brainer politically . I think were getting a hot of support from across the spectrum, but some folks are concerned. Were making sure to allow for medical and religious exemptions. There will be some people opposed. They dont believe some of the science. They have not gotten up to date with the studies where the vaccines and problems have been debunked. And people really forget. They forget how dangerous of a world it is out there. They forget that half of europe was wiped out in the bubonic plague, that before the vaccine we had 100 people dieing a year from the measles. So i think we got complacent, and they forget there is a lot of risks out there. And they decide not to get vaccinated and now we see a outbreak. And Public Officials tell us there will be more if we dont get a handle on this. Some people wont like it, but if there is other people on the other side of this, so where do you anticipate that coming from . We have not heard anyone in the state Legislature Lobby against it yet. Theyre making very positive comments about it. We have the Senate Minority leader make comments about the bill. Were feeling pretty good about where we are in the legislature. There will be people out there who raise concerns. Im sure you have heard from some of them yourself, i think this will bring people together, peopled about this kind of Public Health risk that we have and im feeling confident about this. Why is it legislatively salient whether my objection has to do with god or not. It seems like they get on somewhat dicey territory. If you have a philosophical objection, that is not, what is the principals distinction between the two . To some extent, it is grounded in the United States. We dont have a religious exemption on the books. A couple years ago when he signed a bill that tightened the vaccine requirements at the time. It is an interesting issue. Were going to be talking with the governor, talking with other legislative leaders and trying to define how that religious exemption will work. Mississippi is one of the worst performers, and california is one of the best performers in the nation. Look at these statistics. Cancer deaths, california number 46, mississippi number 3. California is number 27 in adult obesity. Percent of adults who smote, california is 51, and mississippi is number 5. Lets bring back that National Measles exemption map, mississippi is one of only two states that does not allow any nonmedical exemption. So mississippi has not had a single case of measles in more than 20 years. So joining me now is the Mississippi State health officer. Show it the case that you have this statutory environment. We have a strong Public Health law, and in the 1970s, 1979, religious exemptions were declared unconstitutional. And like 29 or states we dont have exemptions. So West Virginia and mississippi essentially dont have exemptions. Your rate is the highest in the country, higher than West Virginia which has the name legal architecture, how have you done it . We have a really good system where the physicians have to enter a form to the school when the child enters the school. And when they provide that farm, it shows what vaccines they have had. The school has to admit the fact of the form to the health department. They report on that two times in the beginning of the school year. So it shows their kids are complete or they have a medical exemption. How do you feel as you watch this play out in other states. Do you have advice for states that are considering restrict ing. I think parents that dont want to vaccinate their children are trying to do the right thing, by they just dont understand the science of it. So if you dont vaccinate your child, youre affecting others as well. Do you think there are political reasons there has been resistance to this . And do you anticipate the government being heavy handed and where they might exist . We have people that object to the law the way it is. We are trying very hard to make sure everyone has the facts so they understand why we have the law that we have. Thank you very much. Absolutely. 2016 president ial hopeful Governor Scott walker may have just handed his opponents their first ad. And faculty workers banned from doing one thing. Ill tell you what it is next. I bring the gift of the name your price tool to help you find a price that fits your budget. Uhoh. The name your price tool. Shes not to be trusted. Kill her. Flo it will save you money the name your price tool isnt witchcraft and i didnt turn your daughter into a rooster. She just looks like that. Burn the witch the name your price tool a dangerously progressive idea. Bulldog mattress discounters president s day sale ending . Get up to four years interestfree financing on the entire tempurpedic cloud collection and, get a queen size serta mattress and box spring set for just 397. Mattress discounters times are changing in americas oldest ivy league schools. The schools officially banned its professors from having sex with under graduate students. You may be thinking what took so long . After years of discouraging the relationships, the policy bans professors from having a sexual relationship with any undergraduate student. They say they come here to learn from us, not here to have a romantic relationship with them. It seems sensible, but a surprising number of colleges dont ban the relationships. For example, brown university, the processors are advised against having a relationship with a student that are in a class the professor teachers. But yale and the university of connecticut panned student and professor sex recently. That leaves room for faulty and graduate students. No word yet on what happens if the new rules are broken. Scott walker is having the first big moment of the president ial race. He had a couple weeks of glowing coverage and he is ahead in the polls in iowa and new hampshire. He has found himself embroiled in a scandal at home over the Public University system. On tuesday, Governor Walker proposed his budget proposal, and buried were a few revisions to the Mission Statement of michigan university. And in a move that has a lot of people questions just what exactly the governor believes in, his proposal would delete the following like basic to every purpose of the system is the search for truth. It is seen as an assault on the wisconsin side. Responding to the changes, the president of the university of wisconsin said in a statement the wisconsin idea is embedded in our dna. It is so much more than words on a page. It is the reason the uw system it defines us and we must not abandon this core principal and value. So Governor Walker told a reporter yesterday that the University Officials had in fact seen the changes and they failed to raise concerns. That was language they went through, looked at, and somehow overlooked. So for us we have no problem in putting that in. Our focus is is on creating authority and giving them full flexibility. Are you surprised. By the end of the day, however, walker fully backed off the provisions saying they were a drafting error. The wisconsin idea will cannot to thrive. Today, they honored documents saying staff in walkers Budget Office were the ones requesting the line by line changes to the Mission Statement. This was not an accident from drafting error, and walker was forced to change his story again, chalking it up to miscommunication. He said late on wednesday my chief of staff spoke again and found they had raised a concern with the state Budget Office about the specific language. My office told the budget staff to keep it simple, they took that to mean that we only wanted Workforce Readiness language when we really wanted it added to the existing Mission Statement. Walker reiterated he will not move forward with the changes. There is another provision in addition his budget, a 300 million cut to the Wisconsin University system. Lisa is joining me now, how did this whole thing get blown up into an issue . Well we broke the story on our site prwatch. Org this week. We were shocked to find this language in the budget when walker started claiming that it was not intentional, it was a drafting error, it was a shock as well. It was not about drafting language, it was about the idea that a Public University should be engaged in the search for the truth. I am an alum, and i along with thousands of alums were shocked and appalled at his disregard for the search for truth and for this commitment that made wisconsins Public University system a crown jewel of the state and of universities in the country. Here is what is strange about this. I think from a perspective outside of wisconsin. I spent time in wisconsin, the system is amazing, it is not just madison, it is la crosse, milwaukee, next to california, with california, one of the best systems in the whole country. Why did scott walker decide the next battle he will wage will be against the uw system . It is extraordinary, you would any with his president ial aspirations, he would talk about being in favor of education, expanding opportunities for americans. This cut comes on top of other cuts. This is, you know nearly 13 of the universitys budget. It is devastating and will be felt by students across the state and it weakens our state and our economy. It is the wrong move and it comes in face of his previous tax cuts that benefitted some of the biggest disadvantaged in the state. I think he signals time and time again he has the wrong priorities. His priorities are for the billionaires he is beloved by, but this is now the walker snow job. And we know a snow job when we see one. He won three elections in four years. He framed this in a fascinating way politically. A cut but capping tuition for the next few years, so he can skate away from tuition hikes, and the squeeze gets made up by professors who are layabouts anyway and dont want to do any work. Even if it is a mass misrepresentation of the truth, perhaps there is an audience for that politically in the state. Yeah, he has a few, im sure of the 2016 race. And so many students in this country have norm debt, and it will just add to the increasing debt that students have coming out of school. Walker played this game before. He had a bait and switch Campaign Going on. His Brown Bag Campaign mentioned nothing about the unions. This is part of his practices are so divisive. It seems to me that one of his m. O. s in office is to use policy as a mechanism to reduce political power of those that would go against him. Go after the unions, a huge pillar in the state of wisconsin, and another bit big particular is the university system. In terms of the kinds of values thrown off by that system. The folks that tend to move through it. It seems to me like he is going after folks and the sources of power and progressives. That is exactly right. He also backed voter restrictions that make it harder to vote and for University Students to vote. The bill that went through wisconsin was designed to require your address beyond your student i. D. The idea that theyre traveling to their hometown and voting in their college town is absurd. But he wanted to make it harder to vote, and what in many ways is a kochbacked effort to entrench this rightwing majority in some states. All right, thank you. Could what you say in a personal email or text message get you fired from a job . A big shake up today. Amy pascal is resigning as sony Motion Picture group. She will remain with the company with a producing deal. This comes on the heels of a devastating cyberattack on sony. A comedy that centers on an assassination plot. They ordered the attack on north korea and employees, an embarrassing fire storm. It includes thousands of personal emails among pascals inbox. The two joked whether the first africanamerican president enjoyed movies like 12 years a slave. Everyone at this company has been violated and nobody here deserved this, she explained. Now powerful executives get and lose jobs all of the time and its never exactly a tragedy. But a persons career can be derailed by a hacker. Not for amy pascal in particular, but everyone living in this creepy era. Facebook is a largely public forum. Amy pascals emails, as offensive as they were, were supposedly private. We have intimate communications that you believe are private are not, in fact, private. Everything you say for younger generations is recordable or accessible by someone. The amy pascal story is just the latest sign that were entering a world where all communication is vulnerable, nothing is private and no one is safe from potential exposure. That gives me the chills. A gun rights activist posted a video to his Facebook Page where he was apparently warning lawmakers that the penalty of treason. The video quickly got a lot of attention and watkins removed it from his Facebook Page and said he took it down because he thought there were those that would intentionally misinterpret my words. My intent was to show that our founders took treason very seriously. I was certainly not threatening anyone. Okay, fine, but, this is not the first time kory watkins has been in the headlines. Last month on the first day of the texas legislative session, he posted a video that his Gun Rights Group in the office of an official lobbying. We just were going to start shopping for somebody that will. I dont want to vote yes. As far as im concerned youre a tyrant to the constitution for the United States of america. You wont be here very long. Were going to take texas back. You need to leave. Im asking you to leave my state. You need to leave my office. Read the constitution. Lead my office, get your foot out of the door. Get out. Read the constitution. The day after that happened, members of the texas house passed a rule to make it easier for members to get panic buttons in their office. Joining me now is poncho navarez. What was going through your head at the time . The office was full, my family was there, and every emotion that you could have goes through your head. Youre fearing for the safety of those around you and youre not sure what is going on. A lot of people, what may be lost on those people is theyre armed. It is legal to carry weapons. We did the best we could we had flat out frustration and you cycle through every emotion. It is legal to carry a concealed gun into the texas state capital . Yes, sir. So presumably theyre packing in your office telling you you wont be here for long if. Im sure. I doubt they would not. Im sure most of them have concealed handgun licenses to carry that weapon in the state capital. Youre someone that is, as i understand, a gun owner, and you have a shooting range on your property, correct . Thats correct. What is your feeling about this group and the way they conducted themselves and the way they pressed their issue in the state of texas. It should not give anybody pause. You have some people here that obviously theyre not taking it serious. You saw the video yourself, anyone who is making a threat. And based on the gentlemans behavior, a week ago they made comments about the fact that this type of legislation would not be a priority and they descended on the capital and he made an about face on the issue. Threats and that type of behavior should not be tolerated and it should not be part of the debate on any type of legislation, especially legislation like this. I want to play kory watkins defending what he is doing. Maybe a foot in the door got a friendly reminder, a peaceful reminder, that were not playing around. I dont think they want to mess with us too much longer. They better start giving us our rights or this peaceful noncooperation stuff is going to be gamed up. Were going to step it up a notch. How do you understand Something Like that . I mean anyone that understands the english language can understand that to be a threat. For him to understand and put himself in the same realm as rosa parks is insane. It is ridiculous. I think any member of the house, or legislative body should not have to be pressured this way into deciding an issue. And the funny thing is, this is one bill their talking about which i would call unfettered open carry. There is about four other bills filed by represents that would make open carry look and feel very similar to our handgun bill and the law that is in place now. That is something that myself as a gun owner would have been inclined to consider. Now i have to weigh the fact that i have been threatened and these yoyos have threatened me and it takes precedence to the issue itself. Thank you very much, appreciate it. Congressman aaron shock has been in the news for decorating his office like downton abbey. And you will never guess what an investigation into a world of Nutritional Supplements found 37. 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Senator hatches home state of utah has been called the Silicon Valley of the dietary supplement industry. Now, some of you ought there might be think hey, i dont take these things, i have nothing to worry about. Okay, fine. But i bet a lot of you eat chicken. Here is the thing, the news there amazingly might be worse. When we come back, i will speak about how much salmonella in the chickens we slaughter for food, and how little we do to address the problem. Every year about 48 million americans get Food Poisoning. 128,000 of those people have be hospitalized. About 3,000 every year will die. We were looking at those numbers, that seems like the sort of thing that we should be able to do something about in america in 2015. There are huge obstacles to improving our food safety. Joining us is will hilton who wrote about why so much of our feed makes us sick, especially chicken. There is a period, sinclair wrote the jungle. It was about how disgusting our meat was. And we passed laws, why is that not true . The truth is that when it comes to food safety, the regulatory system is not regular. It is a Tangled Network of overlapping agencies with mixed mandates and vanishingly slender authority. It is true that we put together a lot of regulatory structure, what they tend to do now is get in each others way or miss the things that fall between them. You have a great example in the piece that stuck with me about sausage and sausage casing, apologies to those eating dinner, that sausage and sausage casing might find themselves where the casing is under one regulatory agency, and the filling is under another . Yeah, and these are the two major ones. It is revealing i think that the fda are under another service. Already from the outset, your two most important agencies are under different cabinet level secretaries. But yes, they regulate the casing one way, and the sausage another. There is also a performance standard idea, right . I think, i guess what i thought before i read the article is there are some inspectors out there, and theyre looking at, theyre spot checking some amount of the food going through the system. If they find bad stuff there is some kind of audit, and if there is salmonella it gets pulled. Thats how they would like it to work, but in a 1999 lawsuit, they discovered much to their surprise when they lost the lawsuit they were not allowed to shut a lawsuit down. Ever since they have been forced to use a work around method. And whether or not that is working. I investigate, my job is im an investigator, and my job is to go and investigate a place where they are, say, processing chicken, right . Unlike fda, there are inspectors on the line at every open plant. The fda producer under their per view might go years without seeing an inspector. If you make meat and poultry, and your fsis, you have an inspector there, but with broiler chickens, the limit is 7. 5 contamination of salmonella. That sounds very specific right . If there was more than that you would think they could do something about it because they set this stander. Apparently no. If the contamination love is 30 , there is very little they can do. I have an image of an inspector in like this salmonella pool getting these horrible readings just being like you guys . One thing they could do is they started to post the results of their testing on their website in the hopes that this will embarrass producers delivering bad results. So whether or not that works ill leave to your imagination. Is it broken as an accident, or broken by design. Obviously there are powerful interests that dont want they want the minimal amount of regulation possible. That would like it not to be the case that these moments of Food Poisoning can be traced back to them, and dont want to suffer huge recalls that are extremely expensive. I think it is safe to say that most people producing food in america dont want to have sick customers. I think it is also fair theyre not especially excited about taking the mess of a structure we have now and streamlining it into a efficient Enforcement Agency that will clamp down when it started to exceed a limit. There is a great deal of lobbying. And there is a tremendous amount of lobbying that is done to prevent the consolidation of the food safety apparatus. Fish are under the fda, except cat fish which is fsis, frozen cheese pizza, but if it has pepperoni is fsis. In denmark, and in several other european countries, they have salmonella down to about 1 or 2 . Even our standard for ground chicken is about half. 46 can test positive without even reaching the limits. So were not even coming close to the examples set by other countries. 44. 6 can test positive for salmonella and be okay . Yes, for chicken parts for the standard, there is no limit, so 100 could have salmonella. Will hilton, that was a fantastic bit of reporting. Gross, but very important. That is all in for this evening. Now it is rachel maddow. Enjoy. Dinner theater, there you are. There is a lot going on in the news today. We have a very big show coming up. Were talking about the latest news on isis. A couple important policy things happening around that. Another day of rand paul craziness on vaccines. Were all working on an important update and surprising update that we covered a few days ago about afghanistan. There is a lot coming up but we have to start tonight in oregon. Honestly usually, that is the state motto of otherwise. Usually when we talk about oregon, it is about crazy republican politics. The state party chairman, you might remember, he collects