Information worth noting on that county police report. It wasnt reviewed by a supervisor until tuesday. Ten days after Michael Brown was killed. We also learned today about the makeup of that grand jury that will ultimately decide whether to indict Darren Wilson. Its composed of three black people, two women, one man, and nine white people, three women, and six men. The county clerks county pointed out thats a higher pen sen taj of africanamericans than represented in the st. Louis county pop list. Now that the streets are calm, the National Guard has left town, focus here in ferguson now turns to where this Community Goes from here. At a roundtable today with young people from ferguson, one young man said thats whats happened here as changed the conversation about racism in this country. This is going to open up the national dialogue. I believe that if you get more young people, more of the youth, more people with new minds, new ideas, to have an open dialogue, you know, we cant be afraid to hurt anybodys feelings. You cant come in, you know, with a backpack full of hurt in the conversation. You have to come with your big boy pants on to get some solutions. Because thats what we need. Because racism is a global its a global system thats affecting everyone. Big boy pants. Were actually going to talk a little bit more with that young man later here in the broadcast. St. Louis Alderman Antonio french, a fixture of these protests, is helping to start a movement called heal stl. Heal st. Louis. He talked about that with chris on the show last night. What im trying to do here is trying to take a lot of this energy, especially among the young people, and try to train the next generation political leaders and activists. Get them involved in organizing their community, registering every person out here, especially africanamericans, to vote. And try to change the face of ferguson government. And this weekend, Michael Browns family will be appearing at the annual peace fest here in st. Louis. Along with tracy martin, father of trayvon martin. It is an event that happens every year here, but you can bet that this year it will have a whole different meaning. Last night on the show, chris reported on a go fund me page thats actually raising money for officer Darren Wilson, 150,000 in just 3 days. By today, that was up to 235,000 before they closed that page and started a new go fund me page. That one already raising another 21,000. Compare that to the go fund me page for the Michael Brown memorial fund, thats raised just under 175,000 in 9 days at last check. Think about that. More money raised for the man who fired at least six shots than for the family of a teenager that was killed. And whats especially disturbing, some of the comments by people who donated to wilson. For example, this one. Thank you, officer wilson, for doing the community this favor. We appreciate your service in the Animal Control Division of the Ferguson Police department. Go fund me said in an email to business insider, the content of the come pain, itself, is not in violation of go fund mes terms of service, however, some donors comments have contained comment that is in violation of go fund mes terms and has been removed accordingly. Liz brown is a columnist for the st. Louis american. Weve spent some time with you this week. Lets start there with the go fund me campaign. How much does that surprise you . It doesnt surprise me at all because the difference with the Gofundme Campaign for Darren Wilson is that the people that are giving to that campaign are clear on their issue. This is an us versus them. So they dont need any nuances about why people didnt vote. They dont discuss any things about the climate of the community. They dont have any other issues to decide on is its us versus them, we always give to us. Not surprising one bit. Not surprising at all. But, and also, another group that has given to that campaign, its been reported that the kkk has also given money to them. I saw that report. I havent been able to confirm that report, but i did see that. Lets talk about something that one of the good things okay. That may come out of all of this. We were talking before the broadcast started. So much has been made of the lack of political involvement in many parts of this part of st. Louis. Right. Is that something that you see changing as a result of what weve seen take place over the past two weeks, and how so . Well, see, because the challenge with political involvement is that there has to be a clear understanding of why i need to get involved. Then there have to be mechanisms in place to constantly engage people in the political process. And the history that part of the history that has gotten ferguson to the place that it is is that many africanamericans move to this community as a result of the things that were going on in the city. The Political Engagement that was coming down on the africanamerican community. Africanamericans either through rules in banking that didnt allow them to get second mortgages, they could get cheaper homes out here. They came out here with the understanding that we can live here in peace, dont have to worry about Political Engagement. So generation after generation then became less and less politically involved, and they endured what they receive here. So now, yes, we have an opportunity, but, i mean, its wonderful to register people to vote, but we have to make sure that all of the institutions that can engage people and keep people engaged in political involvement are on board, too. For example, churches. Have you ever how often have you heard a church say, you need to vote on the school board this year, involve yourself in politics. Thats not necessarily, except for the election of president obama sure. That churches get involved in political advocacy. And thats something that could be done that could engage a lot of people and they could also engage people and they could also get more parishioners as well. Lets talk about the scene right now that, you know, we spent so much time here this week, previous week as well. This is very, very different from what we saw here seven days ago. Very different. Dont see a lot of protesters. Dont hear a lot of chants. Looks like a small pseudo block party popped up across the street. Why do you think there arent as many people as we saw here earlier in the week . I think theres been so much energy on representing to the world that were not who the people that did burning and looting is, so i think theres a real effort by people, the humanness in people, saying were not them. The challenge, however, is that its the agitation that brought people like you and me to the scene. Right . Its not the protesters. The protesters have been marching are you saying that the media would not have shown up had there not been the looting, the fires . How about this the vandalism . How about this, they wouldnt have lingered had there not been that. You know, i just wonder how many people would have shown up if 1,000 people marched down the street peacefully and that was it. Its the agitation that keeps people that gets peoples attention. Its the agitation that makes the change. You cant make change without agitation, so i think some of that agitation spirit has been removed from people and the problem is this is where the hard fight starts, right . We have a prosecutor that is making a decision that appears to be working in conjunction with the potential defendant. Bob mcculloch. Yes. And so the community should be very engaged with this. We should be raising the questions of, the impartiality, the lack of impartiality of this particular prosecutor. There are many, many reasons to continue the movement of activism with this case. Always good to see you, lizz brown, thank you so much. Thanks for having me. A great resource to us as well since weve been here. While we were having that conversation, we were showing viewers at home the scene here on west florissant, again, what youre looking at right now for folks who have been following whats happening, whats been happening in ferguson, this is a far, far different scene that what we saw play out over the past few days. I want to bring in now a state senator, Maria Chappelle nadal, represents parts of ferguson, also patricia bynes, congresswoman of ferguson township. Thanks for being with me on this friday. Let me start with you, because we were talking, again, before the broadcast about Bob Mcculloch and about the prosecution, if you will, not so much the prosecution but the specter of prosecution. Where does that stand right now . Well, you know, Bob Mcculloch has stated that he would freely take himself away from this case if the governor made that decision. For folks, really quickly, senator, who have not been following the story perhaps as closely as others, why is it that so many people in ferguson want mcculloch off this case . Historically, hes had more cases that have made africanamerican s go to jail, o he has a record of having africanamericans prosecuted, and this community has a natural mistrust of him. Always have. I have a great working relationship with him when it comes to the state, but when it comes to home politics, this Community Just doesnt trust him, so he has freely said, if the governor makes that decision to remove him from the case, he would abide by that. Its really in the governors hands at this point. The governor said several times hes not going to do that. What would be the governors motivation . Why wont governor nixon, in your opinion, take mcculloch off . As we were speaks earlier today, its my belief the governor does not want to move Bob Mcculloch because he does not want to be blamed if theres not a conviction. The governor, in my estimation, has always had his own political interest at heart, and so if there is not a conviction, this community is going to be mad and theyre going to be looking at someone to blame. And the governor does not want to accept that blame. Patricia, characterize the mood for me here in ferguson tonight versus the mood in ferguson seven days ago. Wow. So the moods really different. I really, really like what i see right now. Its friday night. I do expect a lot more people to be out because it is friday, but right now it seems its better because i think people are seeing motion moving. Theyre seeing the department of justice getting involved. Eric holder coming out. Theyre seeing, you know, more petitions being signed to take mcculloch off. They know theres a grand jury process going on. Theres movement. How significant was the attorney generals visit earlier this week . I think it was extremely significant. Why . Because it alleviated fears that, one, nobody was paying attention. It alleviated the fears that the feds were not going to get involved. And it showed to the Community Just how serious that this case is being taken. To know that theyre conducting their own investigation. That they are going to be looking at everything separately from the county, not just overseeing the county investigation, but doing their own investigation as a check and balance to what the county is doing. Where do we go from here . I mean, it appears as if the protests that made headlines, violent clashes are police, protests, it appears as if all of thats over. Whats next . I keep telling my constituents we need to get into phase two, and for me phase two is becoming politically active. Going to city council meetings. On tuesday, were going to have our Second City Council meeting since this incident occurred. And i expect it to be a full house. If it is not, it will be a terrible situation, but this is an opportunity for people who have been in this community for such a long time to identify who their Council Members are, know their names and communicate some of the interests that they have. So, i mean, some have suggested theres not necessarily just a political solution here, at some point this has to be about changing hearts, changing minds. I know its a tired cliche, but theres truth to that here. How much of that is true here in ferguson . I think its very true. We have to change the culture. When i hear articles and when i see interviews where there are certain people in ferguson who i didnt know there was a race problem, everythings good. The mayor said that. Your mayor said that. That is scary, because what they dont understand is the status quo is a problem. For some people, its fantastic. They like the way things have been going. Ferguson will never get back to business as usual. Thats what im going to make sure is happening, what maria is going to make sure is happening. Ferguson is not going to be business as usual. Its time for community leaders, time for clergy, time for people who have never been involved. Its time for us to get together and make this work. And added to that, what i will say, in fact, one of your writers at msnbc. Com said, wrote a tremendous article today that was published and he faulked about the two cities in ferguson, tale of two cities. Its kind of interesting when you go into corner coffee and people are selling the i love ferguson signs and dont realize there are people who have a complete different understanding of what ferguson is to them. So kbhast rewhats really impor theres an open and honest conversation about what a certain portion of this Community Feels and what they think and in order for us to overcome any of these barriers, that is going to have to happen first. Thank you. Thank you, both. Thank you so much for spending time with me on friday night. Good weekend to you. State senator marie chappellenadal. Thanks to you as well, patricia bynes. Coming up today for the first time, the white house called the execution of James Wright Foley by isis, they called it a terrorist attack. 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That jims death will make a difference. That our International Community will realize that we must come together, good and love and all that free in the world must be together. You know . To fight the evil and hatred. A french journalist held prisoner for months with foley has claimed that he has a rough idea as to the identity of the suspected british killer. Suspected londonborn jihadist, known simply as john. Establish intelligence has vowed to find foleys killer. Meanwhile, u. S. Central command said today air strikes against isis targets are continuing. Again in the vicinity of the mosul dam, since august 8th, American Forces have conducted a total of 93 air strikes across iraq. Thats according to sentcom. A briefing today, Deputy National security adviser, ben rohdes, would not rule out u. S. Air strikes against isis in syria. The president signed off on air strikes against isil in syria . Well, again, i dont want to get ahead of decisions. The president hasnt been presented with specific military options outside of those that are carrying out the Current Missions in iraq, but we would certainly look at what is necessary in the long term to make sure were protecting americans. Again, the longterm strategy is going to have to involve people on the ground taking the fight to isil, and that is iraqi and kurdish forces, that is syrians who we are supporting on the ground. But if we have a need to protect americans, and to take action in when we see plotting against the United States and our interests, well reserve the right to do so. If christopher dickey, Foreign Editor at the daily beast joins me now. Christopher, if the United States attacks isis and we attack them in syria, does that then not align us with the Syrian Government . I mean, do we become allies with the Syrian Government and, or is it a bit more complicated than that . Oh, its all a lot more complicated than that. Basically, whats going to have to happen is that the United States, which has played a kind of a dirty game with the free syrian army, giving it little bit of arms, little bit of training here and there, is now going to have to ramp up its relationship with this Guerilla Group thats opposed assad and give it the wherewithal to start fighting against isis, and i think thats the plan. The other thing is the United States with drones and air power can do a lot of damage to isis. Isis does no antiaircraft capability. It has been on a role because nobody has used air power against it. But once air power really comes into play, i think that a lot of its assets can be damaged or taken away from it, including some of the oil fields that have made it the richest terrorist organization probably in history. How many fighters, how many isis fighters are we talking about, or do we know . We dont know. The pentagon doesnt know. I dont think the cia knows. I think the number changes all the time. Admiral kirby briefing at the pentagon today said the number probably changes weekly, daily and really he doesnt know. Were talking upwards of 10,000, i think. And a lot of those are people who have been attracted to the idea that isis is on a role, that its winning, that its going to establish this caliphate. I dont think theyre really necessarily even very religious people. I mean, some of them have been ordering islam for dummies from amazon. Com. They are enthusiastic about the idea of being on this winning side in this new war against whatever. And i think that once you start to really strike back against them, and isis doesnt look like its on a roll and doesnt look like its winning, then well start to see them being peeled away from its ranks. And eventually isis can be reduced to what it was in the beginning, a terrorist organization, not an empire or a wouldbe empire. The administration, as you know, has really ramped up its characterization of just how big and how sophisticated a threat isis poses to the u. S. Mainland is. This is president obama talking about isis just two days ago. Isil has no ideology, of any value to human beings. Their ideology is bankrupt. They may claim out of expediency that theyre at war with the United States or the west, but the fact is they terrorize their neighbors and offer them nothing but an endless slavery to their empty vision. And the collapse of any definition of civilized behavior. One thing we can all agree on is a group like isil has no place in the 21st century. Okay. So, christopher, juxtapose that with this. This is what the president said in the new yorker. This is from january. The analogy we use around here sometimes, talking about the white house, of course, the a pappal analogy we use around here, i think its accurate, is if a jv team puts on a lakers uniform, that doesnt make them kobe bryant. Bin laden and a network actively making plots and engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian. What changed . Money. Money is what changed. The isis leadership, whoever they are, theres a lot we dont know about who they are, are very damn smart, and they set out to build a territory in syria and iraq that included some Significant Oil resources. Then they found ways to smuggle l that oil and sell it. They have been involved with ransoming hostages before. Theyve earned millions of dollars doing that. They have literally what youd call a war chest that is unrivaled in the history of terrorism. Once youve got that in the modern world, you can do a lot of things. But theyve also been very smart militarily. Theyve hit weak spots. Theyve probed. When theyve seen weakness, theyve seized on it. When they seized mosul, the second largest city in iraq, they had a capital the likes of which bin laden could never have imagined. That moved to quickly that it took the administration, and frankly, the world by surprise. Nobody anticipated that. They moved into this rotten v vacuum in syria and in iraq, and now they have to be eliminated. Christopher, really quickly here, i want to end on what james foleys brother said to yahoo earlier today that the United States should rethink, perhaps, its policy of not negotiating with terrorists and not paying ransoms. No. I think should we . The United States is right about that. The United States should not pay ransom for hostages being held by terrorists, and in fact, it needs to do more work to discourage the europeans from paying ransom for hostages. Christopher dickey, christopher, thank you so much. Always enjoy your insight, always enjoy your perspective. Foreign editor of the daily beast. Did russia just start a war with ukraine . Thats next. Moderate to severe is tough, but ive managed. 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Pentagon spokesman rear admiral john kirby said the convoy was unauthorized and called for its immediate withdrawal. Care by also said the numbers of Russian Troops amassed at the border was far from his only concern. More worrisome than the number is the readiness and the capability that exists in these battalion tactical groups. They are, as ive described before, combined arms capable. Armor, artillery, infantry, air defense. Theyre very ready, theyre very capable, theyre very mobile, and they continue to do nothing but just increase the tension on the other side with ukraine. So were seeing were seeing a lot of hardware going across that border on a routine basis. Ukraine president Petro Poroshenko backed away from previous using all Resources Available to stop the russian convoy. The Russian Foreign minister insists the convoy is humanitarian, not shy with its own rhetoric. The Russian Foreign ministry also says that the United States is opposing this nonconfrontational act. 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Not long after tory russell talked on the show tuesday night about the scene after Michael Brown was killed, he was marching in the streets of ferguson when he says he was singled out by police and arrested and charged with failure to disperse. I talked to tory, i also talked to a rapper this afternoon after they appeared at a forum for youth in this community. Tory, when did you get out . A little after midnight. Id say about 12 40. I walked out. 13, 14 hours ago . 13, 14 hours ago. So i was in there tuesday a little bit midnight and got out i saw you tuesday. Tuesday night. I walked off the set with chris hayes and i met, and i showed him the distance between ferguson mark and campfield and we didnt get all the way down the curb. Shots fired. I was pointed out. When they got me, sthey said, w got him, the one with the gray shirt. I know i was. I was pointed at prior to. You got locked up. Locked up. What was it like in jail . It was weird. I mean, from the people, like, you know, like i said, i was locked up, a photographer, canadian, journalists, all kinds of people. Rich people came down just to see how i was, locked up with me. Scrapes, bruises, gashes. From the people in there that was locked up with me was good. Police, they already knew my name which was, you know, kind of confirmation that i knew who i was. So they was like, yeah, russell, we waiting on this person to come get you. Did the police say anything to you while you were in there . I was called a [ bleep ]. Really . Yeah. By the police officer. By a City Police Officer when i was actually being detained on the street. I was called fat. I mean, ive been called fat before. Animal. They called you the n word . Yeah. A city police. Uniformed cop. No badge. No i. D. , of course. You know, thats their procedure, i guess. Thats going to be one of the headlines out of all of this after its all over, the treatment of the protesters, as you know. Right. Is that one of the reasons you think the protests started to dwindle . I dont think it actually dwindled. I think people are actually waiting for whats next. So theyre waiting on people like me and tef and the correlation to come with the next steps. We have next steps with the walkout, the college walkout on monday at 12 00. We ask for all College Students to walk out with their hands up as a sign that, you know, mike brown was supposed to it was supposed to be his first day in class. So were going to walk out. Because we have that opportunity. 40 years ago they did a sitin, were going to do a walkout. Tef, you were one of the first folks who was here, correct . Well, yeah, initially, one of the first outside community responders, i think. Id say that. And you sent out a tweet that got the calvary here as well. Yeah. I came down here. Initially i was at home. I heard about the shooting. My younger brother called me in tears because he knew a few people who knew mike. I came down to check it out. When i got here, i could tell the situation was not a normal situation. People were required up. There was cop cars everywhere. It looked like a scene from diehard or something. Every cop jurisdiction you could think of was in the street. There were Police Officers across the street putting on bulletproof vests. The thing i noticed the most, i didnt notice anybody from the community with weapons or anything. Only people i saw with weapons and aggression were the police. What was maybe i should say what is the because it sounds like what is the movement about now . The protests. I mean, theyve kind of subsided. Whats it about . Whats going moving forward. Its really all about justice for mike brown, man. And showing that he didnt die in vain. You know . I look at his mother on television, and i feel that pain. Thats real pain. And we just want justice. We just want whats right, whats fair. You know . We all could have been easily mike brown. I was a 17yearold kid from north county Walking Around dreaming of being a musician. I had hopes to be a rapper. Im from the same exact community. And i could relate to the story, you know . Because his story is my story. You dont think theres any chance that a year from now, year and a half from now, this is another one of those, you know, unfortunate situations that weve forgotten about . That weve stopped talking about . You dont think this is something thats going to be forgotten . No way, man. Like we said, this is a long process, so on the sense, you know, trying to correct 400 years of nonsense and racism, were going to try to walk it down day by day. Its not going to be easy. Some people are a little deterred by the weather, but were expecting big numbers. We have 50 howard students coming out protesting. The protests arent over . Oh, no, were not over. Well be moving the protests to other places. Thats some of the things were getting out. Were heading to the department of justice. We have demands. We want the department of justice to step in. Remove Bob Mcculloch. Hes the county prosecutor. He needs to be removed. We need a special prosecutor in. I mean, its a lot of things that we need, you know . People are not going to stop until Darren Wilson is fired, prosecuted, and, you know, indicted on some kind of charge we need an indictment. Not a grand jury where were playing a play game of charades in the courtroom. We need indictment, you know, not giving the defense enough time to recant or make up more stories like they released. Thats the first step to helping this community rebuild. People always ask me what can we do next . Thats what were trying to do, put pressure on the lawmakers, the legislators, anyone that is an elected official to do the right thing in this situation. I think, you know, were not asking for much. We have the they havent given us anything as a community. Right. In response to the murder of mike brown. And thats all we want. We just want whats right. Thank you, taurean, appreciate it. Tef, thank you. Thank you both. Three impressive people i met here in ferguson, including captain ron johnson, thats ahead. I make a lot of purchases for my business. And i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. Like 50,000 bonus points when i spent 5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. And i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at Office Supply stores. With ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. Travel, gift cards, even cash back. And my rewards points wont expire. So you can make owning a business even more rewarding. Ink from chase. So you can. Much more live from ferguson, next. This week ive learned a lot about this city and the people who call it home. One of those folks, captain ron johnson of the missouri highway patrol. How close, you said you were from around this area, captain . Yes. How close by . I grew up, back when i was a lot younger, i could walk from it was a decent walk but i could walk from my, where i grew up, to up here, or ride a bike to this area, so its not far. And you still have family in the area . Yes. And i still live in the area. Thats why i live here because my family lives here, my friends live here, and matter of fact, a young lady in the store there just informed, we graduated from the same high school in 1981, so that shows that this community, a lot of people still live here. I want to say theyve been broken into twice since the incident. All of the windows have been knocked out. Yes. Thats why this morning i want to come around and talk to them and tell them were going to do everything we can to sustain and ask them to stay here after its over. And thats not coming from the policeman ron johnson. Thats coming from the person that lives in this community. I want them to stay open. Are you going to stay open, no matter what . Well, im trying. I dont know how long. If it continues, i might close it down. I dont know. At the moment, im just trying to, you know, survive. How long have you been here . 20 years. 20 years. Yes. 20 years and all hes asking is, help me, help me. Captain, how much of this is about race . I think its about racial feelings. That i believe it is truly about racial feelings. What do you mean . What do you mean . I think that there hasnt been a balance within the community. This community has changed over the years, and, you know, right now this community is 70 africanamerican, but if you went back in the 70s, that percentage may have been 1 or 2 . So it is truly changing, and i think that the people of the community feel like that that balance and that understanding and what is believed as a sense of fairness and equality has not grown with that percentage. And so, theres a lot of issues going on here that are beyond the death of mike brown, but the death of mike brown has let everyone know that that wound had never closed. You know, theres been talk about the wound is reopened. I think that were finding through this, and the feeling of the community, that the wound never closed. And the voices that were hearing is saying its time for it to close, and the peaceful voices that were hearing are saying that its time for it to close. If the officer was charged tomorrow, if there was an indictment tomorrow, do you think that these streets would be empty the following night . I dont know. I dont know. I dont know that. I dont i dont know that. I dont know that because the really . The cronal almost thats not their concern. Thats not their concern. And if if charges were brought tomorrow, our peaceful people would still, i believe they would be out here because theyve been peaceful. Its not their issue. I cannot think like the criminal mind, but the criminal element is going to be out here as long as they know that they can create havoc and cause issues. Yeah. Theyre going to be here. Theyre going to be here. They are going to be here. Today i talked to two very impressive young men from st. Louis who are among the Peaceful Protesters here. Mustafa, what was it like growing up here in st. Louis . Wroun wh you know what, to be honest, st. Louis is a tremendous place. I love my city, have a lot of respect for my city. I tell you, it you go to certain places, we talk about it here, you go down south, a lot of times youll were talking about racism here and prejudice. Youll be able to look in someones eye or know certain places where that doesnt fly, where you dont feel comfortable or people may discriminate against you. But a lot of times here in st. Louis, things have been swept under the rug. So theres a veil that covers your face where you dont feel that people sometimes see you. And this this incident, the incident between mike brown and officer wilson and the response, theres been an outpouring on social media, and its revealed a lot about the character of this city. I think, one, its revealed a lot about there were and west was there. People standing in front of these an nar anarchists and peot were trying to hijack the protests. You have Strong Communities here, but also on social media, you have people that dont want to recognize that the issues are here, that race is a part of this, that it is a greater issue that not only affects the black community, but all of our communities. And so it pits those two, that positive dynamic and pits that right against something where we like to avoid the true nature and the true reasons and conflict that sometimes exist in our communities. How does ferguson recover from this . How does this area recover from this . Or does it . I think thats a very good question. I think, you know, i guess im in no i can give my opinion. I think i think its almost near impossible. You almost have to realize that at some point, like, going forward, theres a complete loss of respect and understanding for what police do. Because now the narrative for what they do has completely changed. Because everyone gets to see whats actually happening. Like mustafa alluded to earlier, you cant sweep things under the rug and not expect it to protest, that looks like a loot. Youre literally putting your knee on their neck and saying, you can only protest in this one square over there, you can only do this in this one instance right here, but if you as soon as one personing ing acts were not going to get that one person, were going to persecute the whole crowd. Think about the young folks in this community, right, that are now seeing and experiencing this for themselves. Their understanding of law enforcement, their understanding of their civil rights and civil liberties, is forever skewed. And it will take a lot of work to reinstill some confidence into them. So i hope, and i pray that we have not lost a generation to more distrust. That has been you know, ive had the experiences and west has had the experiences. I remember being 7, 8 years old and being accused of stealing, my mother being accused of stealing. The officer made her take everything out of her purse in the mall and he was very assertive and it became more and more aggressive. They pushed us off into a corridor. This is an unfinished corridor. All concrete, no cameras, no people. It continued to escalate. Things like that resonate with you. I have this common issue that some of the things ive seen, just like some of these kids have seen. Ive also had the experience of seeing the positives of law enforcement. You know, my dad used to work with a group of antigang and Antidrug Task force and would march and march in the community and the police would coordinate it and they would help. So this Community Policing that weve been hearing so much about is entirely possible, but my fear is that these kids arent going to get to see that other side. And so what happens to them then . Ill be back with some personal, final thoughts from ferguson. Nobody ever stomped their foot and asked for less. Theres a reason its called an all you can eat buffet. And not a have just a little buffet. Because what we all really want is more. Thats why verizon is giving you even more. Now, for a limited time, get more data 1 gb of bonus data every month with every new smartphone or upgrade. Our best ever pricing with the more everything plan and 50 off all new smartphones. Like the htc one m8 for windows or android. Built to inspire envy. Come get your more with verizon. 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Dont shoot dont shoot dont shoot justice now justice now were not leaving until we have justice were not leaving until we have justice and, whoa hey, hey, hey, hey. Watch out, chris. We are one we are one we are one hands up dont shoot hands up dont shoot what a difference a week makes. All hell had broken loose here in ferguson one week ago tonight. The world watched as hundreds of protesters, if not thousands, genuinely hurt, genuinely angry, marched and chanted up and down the street behind me. There are very few protesters here tonight. And the Police Presence that rivaled something that you might have seen when we were battling for hearts and minds in iraq a decade ago, thats also gone. But the sadness and fear and distrust remain in ferguson. Downless people have told me so this week. Im not talk about just your regular run of the mill distrust between them, im talking about a deep Cross Generational distrust of the system. Not parts of the system. The entire system. Between the folks who make the rules and the people who enforce them. Thats what weve seen manifest itself here in ferguson, and yes, there have been people here who took advantage of the situation, including some outsiders who tried to coop what this was really about for so many. But for the overwhelming majority of people that ive had the pleasure to meet here, the shooting death of Michael Brown touched their heart and soul in such a way they felt they had to do something. They had to let the world know they were sick and tired. Thats what we saw. Weve also started to see Something Else here in ferguson, though. People are now starting to talk about how to make things better. More Police Officers that reflect the community they serve. Dash cameras. Body cameras. Conversations about how to bridge a real racial divide. It made my heart smile to see teachers volunteering to spend their mornings picking up the trash left by protesters the night before. I watched a slew of folks eat barbecue together at a spot set on fire and vandalized a few days before because the owner knows good food brings good people together. Everyone in ferguson isnt a racist. Everyone isnt a looting thug. There are good people here, and they want to make sure that whats happened here leads to some good. They want justice for Michael Browns parents. They, like the rest of the world, want to know precisely what happened august 9th, and what we can all do to try and prevent it from happening again. In another american city, to another young man who looks like me. That is all in for this friday evening. The Rachel Maddow show starts right now. Rachel, good evening it you. Craig, that was an amazing show tonight. Well done, man. That was great