Thats not to say he didnt deliver i think if you watch the fisher king again he was don quixote figure, a mad visionary, that i think caught some of the manic energy and a lot of the darkness. Thats a performance i dont think is sufficiently appreciated. Moscow on the hudson great film. Gets the soul of a russian expatriate, the deep melancholy. Also surprisingly effective later in this career when he was cast as a serial killer in the film insomnia opposite al pacino, and it was startling the way he seemed to relish having a chance to swear on screen and to be nasty and cruel. Those were sides of his personality that didnt often show up on screen. The kind of danger you talk about, the feeling when you are watching him, particularly in his improvisational mode, not necessarily in the confines of scripted film, although sometimes in those roles, that really comes across. I want to play his first appearance on carsons tonight show where you can feel that sense of watching someone who doesnt himself know what will happen next. You feel it and theres this kind of exhilaration and terror at the same moment. This i kind of how i think of him. This is Robin Williams on the tonight show for the first time. Dont get nervous. Oh, god. Not really, no not really, no way. There is some reason you dont get nervous. I suffer from severe dyslexia, too. I win on my block trick or 12th. Better get some fish. Say hi to your mom and dad. [laughter] where is home for you, or did you come from a home . Oh, the people in the institution, tommy. Havent taken your medication yet, its going to be fun. Back at 12. How are you, mr. Williams . Im real fine. Look at these things, flipper. Right now theres someone going, what are you doing . Oh, god. Youre a nice man. Dont be afraid. It went away. Seem like real men can stand up to herpes. Everything there, all the seems completely authentic, like this person channeling all the kind of crazily Intense Energy coursing through him into what he was doing in the moment and feels both unsettling and you cannot come away from it. Its. Its a high wire act he played and he did it Better Seeing him live he did it better than anyone. Lets not forget he came of age in hollywood at really the height of the cocaine epidemic and he was famously quoted as saying cocaine is gods way of telling you, you make too much money. And i fear that like so many people he felt at a certain point he was burning so brightly he had to have something to keep his confidence up. I dont know sort of like robert deniro, maybe a buddy of his in that i think deniro talk about it, too. There was a way in which they burned something essential out of them doing that, and of course, his you always when you heard him on talk shows he would speak with this great melancholy about his period in his life when he burned so brightly and yet was also accompanied by insane terror. The terror of to be performing at that level, and to try to keep it up. Can you imagine . Because he was better than anybody. Where do you go from what you just saw on carson . How can you ever capture that . How can you be sure of capturing that . Thank you, david. I really appreciate it. Youre welcome. Joining me on the phone is mark harris, writer for entertain. Weekly. I was just going back through some of the most resent Robin Williams interviews and what struck me was a palpable sense that he didnt feel the way that were all talking right now about Robin Williams career as being remarkable and spanning decades and awardwinning roles and brilliantly talented, but he didnt feel that way about himself. It comes through in the most recent interviews about his career, finances, the fact he had gone to back to rehab in 2006. Theres this massive gap between im really struck by this in one of these moments the gaff of perception between people who are watching from the outside and what it is like to live inside the head of that person. I think that right and as stunned and sad as we all are, in a way we are less surprised than we might be if this was news about someone who did not wear his heart on his sleeve as much as Robin Williams did. He was not someone who concealed what he was going through, whether it was struggles with Substance Abuse or Health Issues or emotional issues or insecurity. He was open about many of the difficulties through the years that he faced, and i think that kind of openness also extended to many of his performances. I mean, over the years, especially after mork mindy, and the early 8s so when he started his career as a movie actor, there were times in the lesser movies that he made when we would recoil a little from the sort of sad clown thing that he was often forced to do, the sentimentality lou the laughter, like patch adams, that i think in a way in those parts williams was communicating something that was very true to him, which is that comedy for him was a way of masking pain, coping bane, overriding pain, expressing pain, aside from all of the other really brilliant aspects about him as a comic artist and performing artist. He was a very true guy. I mean, there was real honesty, not just anarchy but truth in this comedy. Do you think we will remember him for his films . What role do you think will we remember him most for . Well, its funny, i was listening to davidedelsteen say earlier that movies failed for the most part to harness the really unique, freewheeling, fastmoving, talent he had, and i mostly agree with that. He always seemed a little hemmed in by having to just play one part, but i think in some ways the big exception to that is the movie that he didnt actually see him in, which was aladdin. The performance as the genie was a rare occasion when the movie was able to keep up to him and is a tribute to the fact that Robin Williams made everyone else look slow, that it took a cartoon to keep pace with him. Mark harris from entertain. Weekly. Thank you so much, mark. Thank you. If youre watching this right now and you have had thoughts about suicide and are depressed, i want to read this very important number to you. 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Outrage in ferguson, missouri, today after police shot and killed an unarmed teenage saturday afternoon in broad daylight. Heres what we know about the death of 18yearold Michael Brown. After brown was walking with another individual on the road near the canfield papers in ferguson, sub bausch of st. Louis, missouri, after an al temperature indication, key elements are disputed by the police, brown was shot and killed by a Police Officer. Police do not dispute a Motor Vehicle who has not been publicly identified shot and killed Michael Brown, Police Officer is on administrative leave pending an investigation. Theres also no dispute that Michael Brown was unarmed. As for the altercation, an individual who says he was accompanying Michael Brown has said in multiple interviews he was walking in the street with brown when the Police Squad Car pulled up. The officer said to get the f on the sidewalk. It was not a minute from our destination and we would be off the street, johnson said. Again, this is a man who says he was with Michael Brown prior to and during the altercation. Johnson told cbc news that after a pause the officer reversed his car and the following ensued. He pulled up on the side, tried to brush his door open but we were so close it rick rick said and bounced back and i guess that got him a little upset. At that time he reached out the window dent get out the car, reached his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around his neck, and as he was trying to choke my friend and he was trying to get away and the officer then reached out and grabbed his arm to pull him into the car. Now the officer is pulling him inside the car and he is trying to pull away. At no time the officer said he was going to do anything until he pulled out his weapon. His weapon was drawn and he said ill shoot you, or im going to shoot, and the same moment the first shot went off, and we look at him. He was shot and the was blood coming from him, and took off running. Johnson said he ducked and head but brown kept running and the officer got out of the car. His weapon was already drawn when he got out of the car. He shot again, and with my friend shot he put his hands on the gun and started to get down but the officer still approach with his weapons drawn and he fired several more shots. Various news accounts refer to multiple witnesses, many unnamed, but one who is willing to offerer an constant described the evented this we. Haired gunshots fired and im like, my goodness, whats going on. I gather my things and look out the window, and at this moment he is running, chasing of michael, forcefully down the street, and as gunshots being being fired. I went from that window to my balcony where i then saw michael, running this way, turns his body towards this way, hands in the air, being compliant, he gets shot in the face and chest and goes down and dies. Police offered a different account as described by st. Louis county police chief john del mar. The officer had an encounter with two individual, one of whom was mr. Brown, who was walking down the road in ranfield apartments. He spoke to the individuals about getting off of the street and perhaps taking the sidewalk. One of the individuals complied, the other did not. In fact, the officer decided to get out of his car to continue the conversation. He was pushed back into the car and there was a physical confrontation, and that car, were in fact there was a struggle over the officers gun. We do know, for example there was one shot fired within the car. And then were taking a look tres of the details of the investigation at this point, to determine exactly what happened once the Police Officer exited the car. As the fib today announced its own investigation, many questions remain unanswered, including how many shots were fired and how many hit Michael Brown. In the wake of browns death, outrage, protests continued today in the st. Louis area for the third day. Protesters chanting no, justice no peace. Many protests, including yesterday, were marked by intense intersection actions with the police. Rioting erupted. Community meetings taking place in the st. Louis area. A makeshift memorial has sprung up and the family of the 18yearold who was planning to begin College Classes today, called for justice, not violence. The violence needs to stop. This report is all needed, all needed, but not the violence. Joining me now is Duran Johnson who says he saw the incident. Mr. Johnson, you say you were walking with michael. Were there other people on the street that could have witnessed or corroborated your account . Because obviously the police are telling a very different story than what you and some other witnesses said. At the moment, at the time when we were in the street, before the officer pulled all the way on the no, i did not see anyone. My eyes were not looking for anyone. My ears were open, just talking to my friend. So before the officer said his first words, no, i did not see anyone. How quickly did this escalate . Sounds like from your account that it was a sort of casual comment made bay Police Officer for the two of you to get off the street, and it sounds like there was gunshots within, what, 60 seconds . What was the time frame of this encounter like . The time frame was a little just like you said, 60 seconds or less. It sped up so quickly, it got out of hand real quick. It wasnt even a minute, like you said, 60 seconds. Did michael reach and struggle for the officers gun as the police are saying he did . Incorrect, sir, he did not reach for a weapon at all. He did not reach for the officers weapon at all. You were able to see this interaction. Yes, correct. Were you scared in that moment . Not scared yet but more shocked at how the officer approached us. It really just more shocking than scared at that moment. Mr. Buzzley, have you or your client been approached by investigators . Seems like this is very key eye witness testimony. Well, what is interesting about this we have not. Matter of fact the naacp, contacted the authorities and the Police Department yesterday to make us available, and make mr. Johnson available, and at that point they said they had some other things going on, they did not want to interview mr. Johnson at that time, and also wanted to indicate that mr. Johnson ranwayen ran away and did not witness what was going on and we know that is incorrect. Mr. Johnson, any doubt you withthere with michael at that moment . Sir, did not leave until the last shot was fired, until i confirmed that my friend was not moving and he was dead. Thats when i took off running. Is there the possibility, based on your account of how things went down do you believe that, say, dash camera from the Police Officers video would show what happened in terms of how things were set up spatially . No. The way that the officer approached us, if there was a dash cam on his car, all that it would have gotten is me and my friend walking in the street, and thats it. Because e. Because the actual shots fired and michaels death came when he was behind the police car. Aim correct . His death came from behind the police car, but the initial shot, we were on the side of the driver door of the police car. What was going through your head as you are now, you say, crouched behind a car, watching a Police Officer chase your friend . Im fearing for my life at this moment. At this time the first shot had already been fired and i noticed my friend had been shot. Then in the situation before where gunfire has let out and i dont take fond to guns so i feared for my life. I didnt know what to do. In shock mitchell body couldnt move at that moment. How close were you and michael . I didnt fully have to extend my arm out to touch michael or the officer. I was that close that i could touch both of them without even fully extending my arms. Did michael at any point strike out, lay hands on, assault, the officer . He did not initially assault the officer. I didnt see no point in time where i was standing in the officers driver door window where he touched the officer in any type of threatening way, not whatsoever. How Close Friends were you and michael . Were you tying . We werent so much as Close Friends, childhood, because i just moved over in the paper. When i met him we just became good friends. What kind of person was he . He was a very cool person, quiet, calm, and gentle. Doran johnson and his attorney, thank you both. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. The breadth of the protest in the Community Raises the question of what is next, not just in this investigation but in Police Community relations. Meanwhile, st. Louis county police chief john bellmar says he supports the parallel fbi investigation. The shooting we saw this weekend comes on the heels of several high profile incidences of people being shot by or killed by Police Across the country. Of course the death or eric garner, which was ruled a homocide in new york city after he was first questioned by police for the charge of selling untaxed cigarettes. There has also been a whole lot of different information released out in the wake of the death of Michael Brown. First accusations that he had been busted for shoplifting. So far there has been no corroboration of that. A lot of outrage, too, about how he has been portrayed, both in the ins circulated about him and what people had done to try to presume that they knew what kind of person michael was. Joining me now is msnbc contributor goldy taylor who is in ferguson. What are things leak in ferguson right now . The tensions are still fairly high, although not quite as high as last night itch hear there was an incident at a nearby mall but were not sure its related to he recent unrest. What is the context for what were seeing in ferguson county . Seems to me that the there are some buildup that has happened before this incident happened over the weekend. Well, i will tell you that north st. Louis county is prized of dozens of small jurisdictions, tiny townships, 20,000 people or less, and those tiny townships were all white and now theyre increasingly more africanamerican, as in fergusons case, some 85 , but if you look at the arrest rate, if you look at traffic stops, disproportionately they are africanamerican, especially when you start to look at citations and arrests and outcomes, so youre starting to see tensions flairing up between what seems to still be a fairly white leadership in terms of mayors and police chiefs, and a black population, and been distrust on both sides. Is there confidence among folks there i know the answer about there being a genuine and thorough investigation . Obviously we i cannot say, i cannot be the arbiter of the disputing conditions between the man you saw who says he was with michael when he was shot, and the police. If it is the case that what happened happened in the way that witnesses have described it, it seems very frankly clearly a crime. I spent a good deal of time with him today and also a good deal of time with Community Leaders from the naacp and other commune groups here today, and ive been out here on the scene. I think theres still a great deal of distrust from the community for this investigation. I think there was a bit of relief, though, that the fbi has come in and either taken over the investigation or i think its a little bit unclear as to whether theyre running a parallel investigation. We do know there will be a depth of justice monitor on this. I think that the level of skepticism for the ferguson police, even extends to the st. Louis county police, unfortunately. And so i think those Police Departments and others have a lot of work to do to rebuild their tie to re build their binds with these communities theyre sworn to serve and protect. There is a sense this is now there have been a number of highprofile incident inside which young black minute, unarmed, have been killed. Obviously Trayvon Martin comes to mind. An incident recentfully a Walmart Store with a young man who was buying a toy weapon. We saw eric garners death near new york, and theres this sense, and you saw it explode across social media this weekend, what do we have to do to say that we are worthy of respect and dignity and life . I think that is that really is the central question. I grew up here in st. Louis. It still remains one of the most segregated towns i have run into in my lifetime mitchell parents quite frankly told my brothers how to deal with themselves or attempt to deal with themselves when they were in an allwhite community. But they werent safe in their own communities where there was higher proportion of crime. This is belowabout the value of life. When we look at the investigation and how people are prosecuted, look at outcomes in terms of prison sentences, even we we look at the kind after Media Coverage that these deaths receive, they are quite different when you begin to look at race, at gender, at income, and our Justice System unfortunately has a color. Goldie taylor in ferguson, thank you. Thank you, chris. The unraveling of iraq. Thats ahead. Machines will be sprayed to be made. And making something stronger. Will mean making it lighter. One day, factories will work with the cloud. One day. Is today. Moderate to severe is tough, but ive managed. 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President obama and vicepresident biden called alabadi to off irtheir support and urge him to be as inclusive as possible. That wont be easy if maliki has anything to say in an appearance today he condemned the appointment as unconstitution, decrying the u. S. For supporting it and reminding iraqis he remains their commander in chief. Last night in baghdad, additional Security Forces deployed around the city and locked down government buildings in the green zone. Maliki, you may recall, is responsible for the proshia policies he, by seen by many as having openedded the door to isis, who courted the it could be the verge of a coup. In northern iraq, where isis has seizees large swaths of territory over the past two months the u. S. Has begun to send weapons directly to Kurdish Forces who are fighting back against the brutal islamist group. A bid to keep it headed in the kurds direction after the u. S. Airstrikes helped turn things around a bit over the weekend. Definite lay sense of something has shifted because last week here in our building they were panicking, the possibility of isis fighters launching on the city. Something changed over the weekend. The something was the u. S. Airstrikes. We heard about us aircraft shooting at a convoy of isis fighters that was moving on a kurdish line of defense, just outside the city. That helped. We also heard over the weekend of the Kurdish Forces, at the peshmerga taking two important towns, key, strategic towns, because theyre on the northsouth route, and only able to retack that territory because of the u. S. Air cover. So the has been really, really important. But saying that, front lines keep on shifting. There is a little sense of optimism up here but the fighting is still raging unpredictably around the country. U. S. 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To do anything to make it better or was the u. S. Trying to make it better the source of the instability. Iraq is such a complicated situation, and so terrible. The yazidi, just the raw footage of these people lets be clear bet moral stakes. Unapologetic genocide being committed against people because of their faith. Yes. Theres a group of people that want to extinguish every last one of them because of the god they worship. Absolutely and includes christians as well. At the same time i cant help but watch and think theres something shake shakespearean about barack obama back ordering air strikes in iraq. As an iraqi, does this look like the u. S. Being indecisive . Does it look like the u. S. Doing a good job of man managing an impossible situation or like the u. S. Making things worse . I thick it looks like the u. S. Not taking full responsibility for what it has created. What were seeing right now is not suddenly happen. Its a consequence of the iraq invasion that happened by president bush. President obama is a president of the country and continues the legacy of the country. His legacy right now in iraq is constantly, too little, too late. Too little, too late. Ive heard that from a lot of people and theres this synergy between the too little too late from iraqis and john mccain and Lindsey Graham, my question is, would more earlier be better . Because if there was more earlier, my send is we would be having a whole other set of discussions about what a cluster iraqis, john mccain and Lindsey Graham are talking about more bombs and not diplomatic pushes for stuff like, say, cutting off more arms to maliki unless he creates a more inclusive government. But all of thats true. The question is, how can the u. S. Constructively intervene in the middle east or not intervene . And the consistency of that is important. We cannot look at iraq in an isolated way. Iraq and now isis and the division of the country right now is part of the longer strategy that includes saudi arabia, egypt, syria, and jordan, and all the neighboring country is. We have to look at america has to make that constructive decision. Were intervening in a constructive way where we look at the region and the interinterconnection of the region or pull out completely. So were not going to the u. S. Maybe thats a possibility, right. Maybe that would be for the best for everyone if the troops left saudi arabia not going to happen. Right, not going to happen. All right. Then the question is because it is striking to me, the syria question. So now you look at what is happening with isis. Everyone looks as isis basically across the political spectrum in the world and is aghast. Its hard to its gastly. Everyone looks and thinks, oh, my god. Even al qaeda. Al qaeda is like, youre too violent for us. Stop beheading everyone. But al qaeda is not a moderate group. Im not saying they are. So what i see is an interventionist story about this which were going to get to about a certain critic who give an interview, which i basically, u. S. Not enter veeping in syria, not helping the moderate opposition gave rise to isis and then antiinterventionist saying the u. S. War in iraq brought isis about. Right and. Well, at least one of those things is true. The problem is that this is all a counter factual argument. Its not clear had we armed some mythical moderate Syrian Opposition that we didnt know existed and was just fragments of little piece of rebel forces in 201, would that have stopped isis rise . Maybe. But if theres nothing definite about that, and would it definitely would have done was flooded the zone with weapons, for all we know those weapons could have gotten gotten gottens sooner. If you go back and read the news articles from 2012, you can go back and read the new yorker, John Lee Anderson was in Northern Syria and is writing about how even the ssa commanders cannot identify which brigades are theirs. They didnt know who they were, let alone we go in there and start dispensing weapons. Its counterfactual based on a cop text that never existed. Heres where i feel like we have arrived at this summer on fire. Its just if you look across the region, feels likes, oh, my god, its all burning. Absolutely. This isnt me just like an american looking over there. It is burning. Maybe thats just what the world looks like as america receives from the role its been playing . Which is inexorable or we can do something about it. Right, maybe thats you stare into the void of what this in era looks like, which is the world is on fire, and the only upside is there arent american troops being burned in the fire. Thats too pessimistic for me. Speaking to the issue of there being nonmilitary ways to deal with stuff, she was talking about the saudis. The saudis in 2012 we were begging the saudis to arm the ssa, which i think would have still been a huge task, but we were begging them to do that. Instead they armed to it and instead, they armed isis. Right. They helped to create the thank you, our great ally. These are our allies. Zainab salbi, and Foreign Policy analyst, ali gharib. One somewhat surprising krit ir critic or maybe not, attacking him for being weak. Well talk more about that, next. In the nation, the safest feature in your car is you. Add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get 100 off for every year of safe driving. Which for you, shouldnt be a problem. Just another way we put members first, because we dont have shareholders. Join the nation. Nationwide is on your side. So factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria . Even if youre healthy and active. 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Hillary clinton who is president obamas secretary of state until early this year broke dramatically with the president s Foreign Policy in an interview published yesterday in the atlantic magazine. Many have taken it as a sign clinton tried to distance herself from the president ahead of a potential run for the white house. Asked about the obama doctrine, characterized as cant do stupid stuff, clinton said, great nations need organizing principles and dont do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle. While he said it would not help turn the tide in syrias bloody civil war, clinton said, a failure to help build up a credible fighting force, the people who are the originators against assad, the failure to do that left a huge vacuum which they have now filled. Joining me, author of fall of nixon, rise of reagan. The entire book, the opus that you just produced which is phenomenal, and everyone should read basically says the 1970s was a period of instability. The world felt like it was aflame. America was kind of staring into the void caused by watergate and vietnam, wrestling coming to terms of what we were as a nation. Reagan swept in to say, dont think about all that. Were the exceptional city on the hill. Were the greatest nation in the world. When i read that clinton interview, it felt to me she was channeling reagan in a similar political moment in america. Yeah. I think that the New York Times made the same comparison. I think the interview was very, very worrisome. I think that when robert kagan said that he considers Hillary Clinton a fellow neoconservative, thats exactly what he was referring to. I think she kind of bolt forward with this huberistic notion that america could heal the world with its touch. Everything bad thats happened in Foreign Policy has sprung directly from that idea. I mean, when Lyndon Johnson thought he could build a tva in the river delta. Years later you have 58,000 lives of americans expended and not one but three nations laid to waste. And people were taking a good, hard look at that hubris in the 70s. It dismays me that Hillary Clinton hasnt learned that lesson. Part of me, i think we have the tendency to read her through such a political prism, shes figure trying to calculate her pitch to the political whims of the moment. I think everyone looks back at the iraq war vote and said she voted that way because thats the way the politics was. She really does have these views on Foreign Policy. Yeah, i think shes been pretty darn consistent and shes been on the side of intervention and all these debates in the state department. And the problem with it is the kind of nuance that barack obama has been trying to introduce into Foreign Policy really kind of speaks to the complexity of the world. And by trying to kind of explain away that complexity, youre going to get us into the same blunders over and over again. Now, if its the fact that she wants to govern like Ronald Reagan did in Foreign Policy, lets review that record. Its kind of paradoxical. He only committed troops once in tiny grenada and eliminated a class of Nuclear Weapons and looked at the complicated morass of mutual assured destruction and mathematical abstractions and said lets get rid of Nuclear Weapons. Id love to see that vision from Hillary Clinton. Trying to be like reagan, she may be more like reagans rhetoric and more like his reality. Rick pearlstein, the book is invisible bridge. Thats all in. The Rachel Maddow show begins now. Good to see you again. Its good to be back. Thanks to you at home for staying with us. Its good to be back. Thanks to Steve Kornacki for filling in. Theres a lot going on. A lot of it oversears, none of which is good right now. Also a lot of news at home, politics and otherwise. Theres a ton of stuff to talk about tonight. And we do have a lot planned for the show. But the very unexpected and late breaking news that has come as a real shock tonight, particularly to those of us who have grown up stewed in american political and popular culture, is that one of the most recognizable and iconic comedic talents hi
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