0 shooting. remember, all the while, there is this 1-year-old child in the car with her. so what possessed her to do this, what possessed her to do any of these things, to disobey repeated verbal commands to stop, repeated shots fired at her car. we don't know whether, as you're seeing these pictures now, whether she at this point is wounded. we have to assume that she is. these were -- you saw those shots fired at relatively close range, as she was fleeing. but all the questions, i think, are going to take a while to answer. the police are searching for house in connecticut tonight. they're going to talk to neighbors, her employer. she has some relatives in new york city. they're talking to them, to try to get a better picture of what happened. >> it was remarkable to me two things. one is that as the story came out that she was able to make her way, the mile and a half from the white house to the capitol, and second of all, that the -- >> well, that part, i think, is not very surprising, because once you get away from the immediate area around the white house, the only thing that's going to prevent you from getting to the capitol is traffic. >> right. >> 2:15 on a day when the capitol is going through a shutdown, a lot of federal employees are not here, the traffic is not heavy as usual. she just was, you know, obviously, she wasn't concerned about her safety at any of these points. she's blasting through red lights, going at a very high speed. but she does, i mean, i think it's telling that -- i don't know if she knew where she was going. pennsylvania avenue to the u.s. capitol is a fairly direct route, from the white house to the base of capitol hill. whether she knew that she was -- that was her next destination or not, she headed to the same -- to the part of the city that had the greatest on the street security. >> pete williams from nbc news, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> you bet. >> joining me now is senator bernie sanders, independent from vermont. he heard the gunshots on capitol hill today. and senator, describe the scene to me. >> well, i was leaving a meeting in the capitol, going back to my office at the dirkson office building. and about halfway there, i heard these police cars driving furiously down constitutional avenue. their sirens blaring. and then just at that point, i heard four or five gunshots. and, you know, one began -- then you began to see a whole lot of police officers converging on the scene, telling people to get down, get down. another senator and i ducked behind a car and then we were escorted back into the capitol. >> it was remarkable to me how efficiently and quickly the capitol police seemed to get the situation under control, keep the lockdown, and then they lifted the lockdown, and then, actually, the congress resumed business in the afternoon. >> no, that's -- that's absolutely right. a, these guys are very well trained. and they do a good job. second of all, i think people are on edge. everybody remembers the two or three weeks ago, we had this terrible shooting in the navy yard. i think 12 people were killed. there's a lot of tension going on on capitol hill now with the government shutdown. so it's a tense time. but they know their job and they did it very well. >> they also, one has to add, are part of the federal workforce that is being affected by the shutdown. there's a certain irony here today about the fact that amidst the shutdown, these are some of those workers that are being directly affected. >> chris, that's a very important point. here are these guys, putting their lives on the line every day. and you'll remember about 15 years ago, two guys got killed when some deranged gunman walked into the capitol. but it's true all over the country. we have now over 1 million people who are working. they're protecting the borders. i think they're in intelligence agencies, they're doing head start work, they're delivering meals to frail, elderly people on dirt roads in vermont. you have all of these folks out there. and right now, they don't know if they're going to get paid, day don't know when they're going to get paid. and like everybody else in this country, they have mortgages to pay. they have college loans to pay, and it is grotesquely unfair that this is happening to them. they're under a lot of anxiety, and it's just wrong. >> senator bernie sanders of vermont, always a pleasure. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up -- >> he's hurt, but he said, i'm paraphrasing, but not much. he said, i work every day to make sure you're safe. and when he says "me," he's not talking about me, he's talking about us. my thoughts are with him for a speedy recovery and again my administration goes to all federal law enforcement, but especially our capitol police. >> that was senator harry reid, himself a former u.s. capitol police officer, i learned that today, talking about his conversation with the officer who was injured today during the incident in washington, d.c. there is a great irony to all of the collective administration and outpouring we saw from congress today for these folks and we will talk about it, coming up. coming up later in the show, a peek inside the republican shutdown strategy courtesy of an open mic. we'll be right back. female announcer: save up to 35% female announcer: on a huge selection of clearance mattresses. get two years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic. sleep train's inventory clearance sale is on now. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ coming up later in the show, a peek inside the republican shutdown strategy courtesy of an open mic. we'll be right back.
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