Destruction and rescue efforts underway . It is a frenzied effort. Theyre trying to, just as they did when i was back, here where im still in turkey, back in february. They are trying to uncover what could be thousands of people buried underneath that rubble. Thousands of survivors. Thats why its such a desperate effort. One of the differences here is that some of the architecture in morocco, and especially in the rural areas, in the atlas mountains, and in the high atlas mountains, its really rudimentary. Its basically made of adobe blocks or an reinforced concrete, as you can imagine. A. Just crumbles. A lot of people are wondering whether or not Rescue Workers are able to reach some of those remote areas. Whether or not the devastation is going to be even worse than imagined right now. The fact is they went when i was in turkey back in february, we saw essentially Mid Rise Buildings Shoddily built, and indeed, they were reinforced concrete. They were multiple stories. A lot of those buildings, and especially in the older city, and those rural areas not going to be those sky high recently built towers that would crush so many people sleeping. This could become a different story. Alex, we just have to wait and see. We are speaking with people on the ground, at least those agency materials, agencies speaking to people on the ground. Heres one of the eyewitnesses speaking to one of the agencies. Where on an intrepid tour and we just went to bed and then we did not go to bed because the room started shaking. The room just started shaking. Going backwards and forwards and everything started moving, pictures started moving, we just drive some clothes and our bags and lauren, one of the other people on the tour, came running and screaming to tell us that and so all of our group came out here me and just hung around with everybody, with the locals. Alex, its another story, weve been hearing time and time again from people on the ground and outside of marrakech. One of the differences here between this and turkey is the timing. It happened a little after 11 pm and so a lot of people are asleep. Here in turkey, that earthquake happened later on with almost everybody asleep and inside of their homes in these mid level to high rise buildings we. It looks like some people had the opportunity and wherewithal because they were conscious to get out of those buildings. Again, the death toll, more than 1000 already. Just a couple of hours ago is in the eight hundreds, and even before, that six hundreds. Once these Rescue Workers get to all of these sites, and particularly the remote paces and highlight them afraid they will be discovering a lot more bodies. That death toll in number of injuries will be reaching skyhigh levels. Alex . Ill tell you now this, is just heartbreaking. Thank you for bringing us the latest and following the recovery and rescue efforts. Thank you. We have more Breaking News to share from all of you. President biden, returning to his hotel this hour as he wraps up his first day of World Leader Meetings at the G20 Summit It india. The president , along with indian Prime Minister and allies, announced a rail and shipping project linking india to the middle east in europe. Brighton, highlighting how it fits into the key focus of the summit. I am hearing all of the transitions. In many ways, its the focus of this partnership. That we are talking about today. Building sustainable, resilient infrastructure, making quality infrastructure investments, and creating a better future. When earth, when family, when future, that is indeed the theme, well have our live report from the summit in a moment. Here in a moment, the u. S. Has denied mark meadows request to move his charges from state to Federal Court. Trumps former Chief Of Staff filed a notice of appeal for the 11th Circuit Report for other georgia defendants trying to move their cases to Federal Court. As trump lawyer signal that he might follow suit. This comes as a Special Grand Jury report that was the basis for the Georgia Election case which has been unsealed. Last month, d a fani willis announced charges against 19 people, but we now learned that the Special Grand Jury recommended charges against 39 people in total. That means 21 of them are unindicted. Meanwhile, donald trump on the campaign trail, picking up an endorsement from the south dakota governor kristi noem. The former president , offering his route Mount Rushmore state. It means that if i win, somebody wants to run against me, i tell my Attorney General and say listen, indict him. He hasnt done anything wrong, i dont know, indict him an interim tax invasion. Well figure it out. Trump had said i would today alongside many of his republican rivals. It comes as a new nbc report says that a number of trumps allies are growing concerns that his campaign and first in the nation caucus state is lacking. Lets go now to more on that Breaking News. From the g20 summit, we will go to msnbcs in new delhi for us. A long distance. Mike, what more are we hearing from the president as he wraps up his very busy first day here in india. Good to be with you, alex, the big headline, the big announcement from President Biden on The World Stage is very similar to what we hear him talk an awful lot about back home. It is infrastructure. This g20 summit, is really an opportunity for the leaders of the worlds biggest economies to come together and to find ways to Work Together on dealing with some of the biggest economic strains we face across the world right now. You think about with some of them are. It is food insecurity, inflation, it is supply chain disruptions, all tied to the war in ukraine as well as the fallout of covid19. The big announcement that the president made with some of our key allies has to do with taking and improving upon existing rail infrastructure, and expanding on that into the middle east and out here into india. To create what they are calling a new corridor that includes some new underground tunnels as well to bring a Broadband Connection It Energy across that sweep of the world. That is significant because what are we talking about . Regions in the middle east and india that are already under these areas. It is also a counter way to china. China over the last decade especially, trying to work with other developing economies to do similar types of projects. President biden today is calling this a very big deal. Listen here to more of him explaining what this means. Our partners are working to mobilize the trillions of investments needed to close the infrastructure gaps around the world, and including the formation of a new investor form that the United States will host in a couple of weeks. Lets continue to work as one to seize this moment and maximize our collective investments. Finding new partners to unlock new capital, because when we invest in low income countries, all countries benefit. Alex, ive talked to so often from these various International Summits that the president attends. Often theyre smaller gatherings, think of the g7 and nato, often just the u. S. s closest allies. The g20 is, defining includes adversaries like china and russia, those leaders not here, it gives the u. S. An opportunity to demonstrate what america thinks their role is in the world. And to the other point, i just have to say that i admire the way youre able to go from times into time zone and really delivered nicely. I might be doing this right now. Thank you, my friend. Lets go now to a victory from Fulton County prosecutors in georgia. The federal judge ruled late yesterday that trumps former Chief Of Staff Mark Meadows Cannot move his Georgia Election interference case to Federal Court. Meadows argued the charges against him were but u. S. District judge steve jones didnt buy it. Writing in the ruling, his efforts fall short. Lets bring us in on capitol hill. And katie feng, msnbc legal contributor and host of the katie phang show. She was a former Florida State prosecutor into counties with an extensive felony trial experience. That makes her a good one to ask these questions to. I will go fast meadows has already appealed, and help us break down the judges decision. Look, just or judge steve jones did exactly that. In hours of testimony, meadows trying to plead his case to have him move out of Fulton County, where he likely thinks a more friendly jury pulled that of the mostly democratic jurors in Fulton County. He failed to prove that the work that he was allegedly doing, that words that he was indicted, im trying to pressure State Officials to overturn the Election Results in favor of the former president , including a call that he was on with Brad Raffensperger, the top election official in that state with his former boss. And he failed to prove that he did that, and according to his Job Description as a white house Chief Of Staff. He did admit, according to the judge, plenty of times that he did this work as a Campaign Official instead for the former President Trumps 2020 campaign. Of course, that is subject to some violations. Its some of the things that the state prosecutors had pointed out. This is not boding well for meadows, and of course noted that he we did expect him to do so. He had also asked that he hauled all proceedings while this plays out. Remember, there are others that are also considering to make this move, at least five of the mitt of so far asked to move to Federal Court, including the former president that was weighing that option. He will make that decision at the end of the month. Overall, its a setback for those seeking to do that. And they will delay fani willis, the District Attorneys move to try to get them together in a speedy fashion as well. Okay. Katie, over to you now. Based on what julie just reported, was meadows attempt to even try to move to Federal Court wise . Could it change the calculus of the others, including donald trump that could do the same thing . Alex, your last question first. It should serve as a deterrent for people like donald trump that have not attempted to remove yet, even though that federal official has to find out under the law. The ruling of judge jones, releasing a 49page opinion, its very explicitly noting that any of the comments of mark meadows, has a really good for the defense, all of those defendants. Judge jones, making it clear that any action picking up outside of the realm of your capacity is a federal official, if it veers too far outside of the that in itself will probe prohibit you from getting into Federal Court. Donald trump i know has acknowledged, as julie has said, that he was contemplating maybe removing the Federal Court. If i am Donald Trumps attorneys, you have to think about the time. With regards to whether or not it was a mistake, its always a mistake if youre a criminal defendant looking at serious prison time. Taking an oath to tell the truth on a panel, a jury, and then testify for hours. Mark meadows has now walked into his testimony. Any deviation should he be crazy enough during his criminal case, just a criminal trial, would be nuts. Fani willis would have a lot of that material to work with and impeach mark meadows. I tweeted last night about this trump issue, alex, if you were to be tried to remove, he himself would have to go through an evidentiary hearing process. He would have to testify. I think its just too wild. Its just too unpredictable to put donald trump on the stand. I dont think you would be wise for him to do . It is a bombshell when Fulton Countys Grand Jury Court was unsealed yesterday. It revealed that the jury recommended an additional 21 people we charge in this Georgia Election interference case. They didnt make this cut. Senator lindsey graham, former republican senator kelly roffler, david perdue, they were on the list. They were not indicted by disputed tierney fani willis, nor was mike flynn. The top and boris epshteyn. Many familiar names there. Why were they not indict it . What separates them from the ones that they were . Why they were not indictment, will probably never get an answer at this point. Now is that Second Grand Jury at Fulton County that was seated to make a determination on whether a true bill would be tanya, it does not necessarily mean that fani willis will pursue charges. Remember, that Special Grand Jury, the one in the report released yesterday, isnt entirely different body doing an investigative effort. Taking in evidence, listening to witnesses, making recommendations only. The special grand jurors, not lawyers, no legal training, no legal background, just considering the evidence that is putting put in front of them. Making that recommendation to have this georgia statutes that apply. I would, you know, tell people, look out. Your record looking right now at your screen, at these recommended for indictment but did not get charged folks. Youll probably see them as witnesses called by d a fani willis, charging them early as they kind of chesbrough in sydney powell trial, which is due to set off in october 23rd. Up to get through that hurdle, jury selections, the state approving the element of exclusion, and without reasonable doubt, guilt 150 witnesses in this case, and you will see people like lindsey graham, et cetera, probably calling to testify [inaudible] yeah. Its interesting because, as you say, these folks are not attorneys, they dont know the law. But clearly they are thinking something is rotten ended, mark something is wrong with what these people were doing. But you mentioned lindsey graham, usually, how is the senator responding to this news that the grand jury recommended charging him . We follow that, katie, when you talk about the Political Landscape of this, senator graham is saying now what he said back in November Of 2020 when we asked him about these calls that he made two State Officials including Brad Raffensperger who is on the record saying that the senator told him to essentially find different votes, he denies ever doing that. Yesterday he talked to reporters, after this report came public that he was one of those 39th of the Special Grand Jury wanted d. A. Fani willingness to charge. Obviously he wasnt. Heres what he said. Watch. I called around different states including georgia. As a sitting United States senator, chairman judiciary committee. I eventually certified the election and all states, including georgia. I did not find any evidence of mass voter fraud, but i did have concerns about the mailin ballots. We cannot criminalize senators doing their job when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. We are opening up pandoras box here. I should, note while the other two senators, the georgia senators, kelly and david perdue, they are no longer in congress. Here is the thing, graham back when he made those phone calls, those conversations, he was the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee. Certainly serving in a top role, top capacity, a really Important Committee here in the senate. Certainly he is defending his actions. Hes defended trump, hes one of his biggest allies here on capitol hill. I dont know if hes going to get called to testify, as katie said, if he, does will he actually show up . Theres been some back and forth discussions already in the last couple of years with the georgia District Attorney trying to get him to show up and testify and say what he knows. He has been blocking and stonewalling that at every single turn, i expect we will continue to see that from him. Julie, i thank you very much for the report. Katie, you will stay with me because we still have a lot more to discuss including this. 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You know, the insurrection is frankly the people that interacted on the election and rigged the election. Those of the insurrectionists. So msnbc,s katie phang, is back with. Me joining the conversation is hugo lowell, political investigations reporter for the guardian. Welcome to you, you go. I will start with. You what do you make of Donald Trumps definition of insurrection . Can you play the part about the no guns in the capitol . How big a threat are these efforts against him . I think first of all, hes, wrong the facts, we know from the january six committees investigation that there are lots of people in the capitol who were armed that day. Not only with bats and pipes, but with guns, as the Secret Service said on its radio transmission. That is actually incorrect. But the 14th Amendment is interesting because it is separate and apart from criminal cases that he has mixed up in. Which is notable because he has not been charged with inciting insurrection. But there is this provision in the 14th Amendment that says that if you give aid or comfort to insurrectionists, that can be disinhibition to disqualify you from the ballot. It will be interesting to see whether or not that will be upheld if he has not been criminally charged. I wonder if the word reptilian as well is something that would have a bit of a lower bar to prove and insurrection, but i know, katie, earlier today you spoke with the chief counsel of the group that filed the lawsuit in colorado. How confident are they in their case . Yeah, so that organization, crew, actually has won in court in the state of new mexico. It was a commissioner who was involved in promoting and assisting the january 6th insurrection, that commissioner off the ballot, not being able to serve, not being able to hold office, anymore and the crew has kept this in a court of law and has been unsuccessful. Check new mexico off. We know that jim griswold, the secretary of state in colorado, has already been in touch with other secretaries of state in other locations in the United States and she reasonably anticipates, as to other secretaries of state, these types of cases can be brought not only by crew but other plaintiffs. I want to note, in colorado, these six plaintiffs, four of them are republican. Two of them are unaffiliated voters. So this challenge that is being brought to trump candidacy and his ability to even appear on the ballot in 2024 is a bar partisan one. It is one that has no party affiliation. It is the idea that if you consider the language of Section Three of the 14th Amendment, if for the opportunity to the plaintiffs to sue the secretaries of state, to present donald trump from actually making it to the ballot. So to hugos point, there is power in a case thats not criminal. Dont sleep on the civil cases. Those are the cases that actually can create serious obstacles to someone like donald trump. Another critical example, eugene carroll, shes had her civil litigation she brought against donald trump, so sometimes they can actually have a profound impact on somebody like donald trump. Is there a sense, hugo, that there is a point where all of these indictments pile up to where donald trump does consider Cutting Deals. Even ones that are based on him not running for office . We will make a deal with you if you say you are not going to run for office again . Yeah, i dont see either of those scenarios, at least for the moment. Trump is running on this idea that hes innocent and he needs to appear at defiant to his supporters. The moment you deal with prosecutors, you have to plead guilty. I think the optics of that is going to be insurmountable for him running into the election. So i dont see that happening. As for this discussion about if he agrees not to run for president , when will they drop charges, i dont see any way in which the Department Of Justice on Merrick Garland takes that approach. The whole point of these cases, as youre following the facts in the law, and according to that, trump violated three federal statutes with the federal january 6th case, for instance, and the maralago classified documents case, he clearly violated National Security statues by retaining National Defense information. The moment you start inserting politics into it it becomes political, and that is one thing that this Department Of Justice has tried to avoid from the very start. Point well taken there, katie, you touched on this an alaskan first nations, lets take a listen to what donald trump said about taking the stand if his cases go to trial. Here it is. So, if you have to go to trial, will you testify in your own defense . Oh yes, absolutely. Absolutely. You will take the stand . That i look forward to. Do you believe he would do that . And, for the Defense Attorney for donald trump, how terrifying is that prospect . We yeah, there is no way hes going to take the stand in his own defense. With the potential exposure that he would have, it would just be too profound. Not only is there an overlap, alex, in terms of the types of cases being prosecuted, consider, this fani willis and Fulton County case is pursuing his efforts to overturn the Election Results in the state of georgia, but that does not necessarily mean that it precludes special counsel, jack, Smith Trumping able to utilize evidence from that case in his own prosecution. So i think there is no way that any criminal Defense Attorney would never let somebody like donald trump take the stand, and any criminal setting, which speaks to the idea of trumps attempt to remove move to Federal Court to an evidentiary hearing and how that would be a harm in terms of him testifying, have him try to remove the Federal Court. Hugo, as we take a look at the federal documents case, there is a new court filing which shows that the i. T. Manager at maralago is now a government witness, after being offered immunity from the special counsel. Here is how Chris Christie thinks trump might be reacting to that news. Here is that. That news this man will be vilified, attacked, savaged by donald trump publicly. And then secondly, donald trump will lay in his bed at, night try to remember every conversation he ever had with this guy while he sick to a stomach. And this is going to repeat itself over and over and over again over the course of the next number of months. When do you agree with that . Yeah, i think some hyperbole drawn from Chris Christie, i dont think there is any suggestion that trump was having direct conversations with him, who is the i. T. Worker at maralago. Certainly, the indictment does not reflect. That all of it looks to intermediaries. This is how trump likes to operate. He likes to be one away from the people hes trying to, get in this, case objects justice. I dont think that part hold. But i think it is true that as the case progresses, trumps i will be focused on people who testify against him at trial. His lawyers right now, theyre looking through with the classified and non classified discoveries that the prosecutors have turned over to. Them at this, point they should know who in trumps orbit, inner circle or otherwise, have provided incriminating testimony against him. And so i think the more that we get towards the trial, the more this becomes Known Inside Trump World Into trump himself. 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The damage was felt in the heritage site of the medina. The worst hit areas where the villages of the atlas mountains. Efforts began to pull bodies out of the rubble. First, residents moved rocks with their bare hands. Until eventually the army police and firefighters were deployed. Neven, now hours after the first powerful shiloh earthquake, a night spent sleeping in the streets, people arent still on high alert. Shaken by tremors and the sheer surprise of this tragedy. Sky news. Live report for you at the top of the hour. In the meantime, new today, more confirmed sightings of a convicted murderer who broke out of a pennsylvania prison. Fugitive, danelo cavalcante, is now in his tenth day on the run. This is some new video from earlier, police are modifying their search area today. Lets go to nbc,s marissa power, whos joining us from unionville, pennsylvania, with the very latest on this. What it is hard to believe ten days he has eluded capture. What is the latest on the man hunt . You just mentioned, two more sightings yesterday. Now, police are remaining tightlipped about the details of that. Where, who he was spotted, by and if so, by what exactly . All they said was there were official sightings. Two of them yesterday, making this ten sightings in the ten days that he has been on the run. At least ten confirmed sightings, we should say. Of course there is a whole lot of reports, all you have to do is a quick google or twitter search and you will see them for yourselves. But police complaining ten of them. We do have a couple more Additional Details we have learned. We know the search has been narrow. So as of yesterday we heard that the search was anywhere between 8 to 10 miles in the Longwood Gardens area today. That search area has been haves and narrowed to four miles. That means they have confidence in the certain areas within the Botanical Gardens weve been talking about. Just to set the scene of where we, are were outside of the command center. You can probably see it over my shoulder. This is the nerve center. This is where all the important decisions are being made, a birdseye view, if you, well on where things stand on the investigation. We know that this is 400 Law Enforcement officers taking to not just the crowds with canine units, theyre doing it with a tactical push. That means what they are doing is they are trying to encircle him which makes sense when we look at the narrow search area from roughly 8 to 10 miles to now for miles. We saw them taking to the skies, multiple helicopters yesterday. I saw anecdotally on the ground although police are remaining tightlipped on what exactly they know, they know that the helicopters were searching one specific area. We saw that with our own eyes. In terms of how people are feeling around here, it is not just the neighborhoods, the areas that people are on edge. Of course the family of that victim, remember, he is convicted of murdering his ex girlfriend. His former girlfriend, stopping her 40 times in front of her children. Her family now is absolutely terrified. Im scared, me and my family, all the time because i think he, in my mind, is coming now. He could be in my car, in my, house im scared all the time. I dont work, i dont sleep, im afraid to do something, to go to bed, to go with my family. I will just at this, we know that we had some rain last night. Theres obviously been high heat and humidity this week. Of, course the last couple of days we were told did complicate the search efforts. Officers and those involved in the search say they remain optimistic that they will find him and when they hope to do it soon. Of course the victims family who you just heard from. Lets hope so, the whole thing is chilling. Thank you very much, marissa. Sounding the alarm, next, new nbc Exclusive Reporting about why trump allies are really worried about this i will campaign. While the Biden Campaign spends big money on an ad blitz. 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Trump of course, as you, mentioned coming here with a wind at his back after receiving the endorsement of south dakota governor, Christine Noem last. Night trump using the opportunity while exempting the endorsement to also take some swings at his rival that he currently enjoys. Over 30 percentage point lead over here in the hawkeye state. Take a listen to what he had to say last night. Iowas michael hammer on desanctimonious. He strongly opposed my protection for our farmers. We alex, you mentioned the Exclusive Reporting by our colleagues, dasha burns and catherine doyle, about how trump allies are growing concerned over how bulletproof that pulling lead is. And whether trumps gop rivals will be able to punch some holes in this armor. These allies are concerned that his campaigns presence in this state is too thin compared to his rivals. He has had not enough of a presence, engagement here in the state. Trumps campaign, they are vehemently denying these concerns. They are arguing and have even campaigned on this argument that trump has not been able to have the same engagement and presence here that he did in his past two runs for the white house. This is because of the legal proceeding surrounding his for criminal indictments. Right now the question comes down to, we know the style of politicking that iowans here expect. This is a state that has won by handshakes, face to face contact. We have seen poll after poll show that former President Trump can defy end up in those traditions in politics. So really the question is whether i winds are willing to give the former President A Pass on their traditions, or whether they do indeed expect more from him. Thats something we will ask these voters here on the ground, today alex. Okay, and i wonder, even if don trump shows up to the, game to think the folks attending are gonna be watching him or watching whats happening on the field . That is a huge rivalry. Thank you very, much we appreciate. 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Reversing a federal judges order to remove them just one day earlier. Joining me now is former housing and urban development secretary, and msnbc political analyst, julian castro. Julian, its good to see you. Lets get into this. Governor abbott installed that barrier. It is a string of Wrecking Ball sized buoys. It separates by serrated saw plates with an underwater mesh. Its all in an effort to try to stop migrants from mexico. The rio grande, as you, know is already extremely dangerous. Hundreds die trying to cross that river. Who is going to prevail in this battle over them . Is it texas over the Biden Administration . How do you pick . This and by the way . Is this barrier merely a visual symbol where do you think it is designed to not only prevent crossings but to cause physical harm . Like look how we describe it . Yeah, alex, look, this is a contraption that i think accurately has been called a death trap. There are people who have died because of. It people have been maimed because of. It Governor Abbott and his administration are aware of these, injuries these deaths, they refused to move it out of the middle of the river. And so this case is an important one because it is actually harming people. The Abbott Administration says look, it is about deterring people crossing, people are still crying to across the border. Still trying to cross the river. Theyve been harmed, theyve been hurt because of this barrier. It is barbaric. A lot of people have called it out because of that. Traditionally, courts have given a lot of deference to the federal government when it comes to Border Security and enforcement. That is an american legal jurisprudence. The usual course of affairs. It was not a surprise when the Federal District court in texas said to abbott, you have to remove these buoys and the most you can do is put them on the texas side of the land. Texas side of the border. The defense circuit, which is one of the most extremely conservative appeals to circuits in Federal Courts said, hold on, you dont need to do that until we hear the merits of this case. So it is unclear what is going to happen here, if this circuit is conservative, like, i said however, traditionally, a lot of the deference has been given to the federal government when it comes to the waterway this along the border and Border Security. Here is a question. The rio grande, correct me if im wrong, but is that International Waters . Is it belonging to both mexico and the United States . Does that somehow play into all of this . Might this rise to the level of a case that goes to the Supreme Court . With the Supreme Court pay that same level of conservative deference . It absolutely, is this is an international waterway. There are treaties that make this this is the subject. Of the waterway is a subject of. In fact, it is very telling that abbotts administration actually did move the buoys slightly from where they originally put, it because they were afraid that it actually was encroaching on the mexican side of the waterway. They have shown already but they understand that this is not fully a texas or even United States issue. It involves mexico. The courts have acknowledged that as well. The federal government, the u. S. Federal, government is claiming that yes, this is the international waterway. In addition to being important for the work of u. S. Border patrol, so there is a lot more play here than just a fight between texas and the United States. This also involves mexico. Mexico has indicated their displeasure with Governor Abbott. And has lauded the federal government, the Biden Administration, for going to court on this. Overall, though, this says something about who we are as a country. To be what the symbol of our border to be this barbaric Razor Wire Buoy System . It has killed people and maimed people. I dont think that we do. In fact, time after time, even watchdogs within the federal government have said that these types of mechanisms are outdated, they are not the best way to keep people out, if that is what youre trying to do. There are better ways to achieve Border Security that involve cameras and other types of sensors and technology. I think that our time and effort would be better spent on that and on personnel, down on the, border than on this kind of thing. Okay, i guess we will have to wait and see it this goes to the Supreme Courts direction. We will see. Let me talk to about 2024 politics. The new headline on politico, revealing that in affiliate of President Bidens Chief Super Pac has spent 13 million in an ad blitz across six battleground states. They are trying to boost bidens image. It is far earlier than normal though four president ial election. Are you surprised at this early strategy . What do you think is behind hitting the airwaves so early . Look, we are still about 420 days away from the November 2024 election. But whos counting . Yeah, who is counting . Except those of us who are political junkies. It is very early. This is 12 point 3 million. This was more than what was spent in the last two cycles as super pacs have gotten their legs under them. This is also different because its not negative. A lot of the super pacs do negative ads. They try to take down the opponent. This is about boosting biden, trying to bring up his positives, specifically on the economy. It is amazing, for, instance in the Wall Street Journal Poll that came out a week ago, when people were asked, okay, who has more accomplishments . 51 to 40 , people said donald trump. Now, think about that, think about how many accomplishments the Biden Administration can be rightfully proud of and have helped folks in this country and boost of the economy. People are not getting that. This super pac is going out early in seven states, they are going to be key. Trying to boost joe bidens positives. Lets see what that does. He is focused, he needs to be focused on the perceptions of the economy that voters. Have there is also the perception of age. We dont know whats going to happen with the economy, it is going in the right direction, the inflation reduction act, the chips manufacturing act, other things have been positive. That second challenge of age, i think it is a more difficult challenge to address. They are going to have to figure out a way to address it. These ads do not do that. All, right julian castro, thank you so much for your. Time we look forward to seeing you again, my friend. In the meantime, still strong, still dangerous, why meteorologists are not taking their eyes off of hurricane lee, as are the tourist at this Hot Spot On The Beach and angry. Light fingers are crossed across the caribbean. Next. Next. 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Joining us now, nbc news meteorologist, michelle grossman, michelle, welcome. Where is the storm right now . What should americans be looking out for here . Hi, there, alex this is going to be a long haul because we are going to see lee slow down over the next several days. Right now we are looking lee at, north of the Leeward Islands. The place like the British Virgin islands, we will see rough surf, some lifethreatening rip tides as well. That could be the case along the east coast as we go throughout next week or at least like week into next weekend. This is what we are looking at in terms of the atlantic, Tropical Storm marco formed. That will be a storm. Hurricane lee, now a category three storm. We are looking at winds near 1 13 Miles Per Hour. Remember, it was a category five yesterday, it intensified, 85 Miles Per Hour within 24 hours. Today were sitting the and the correct impacts. We are expecting it to stay north of the Leeward Islands of puerto rico. The virgin islands, that is good. News here at the stats. We are looking at the location, 350 miles east northeast of that northern Leeward Islands. The winds are at 115 miles an hour, making that category three storm, the hurricane category. We are moving quickly, we are going to see it halt as we go throughout the next couple of days. Here is the forecast to track that latest updates. Right around two, oclock we are going to see it intensified to a category four. Then we will make this track around here. We are seeing the intensity and