testify about his involvement in efforts to overturn the election. they wrote that quote, you appear to be involved with president trump's efforts to stop the certification the election results, even after the attack on the capital. i think that newt gingrich news caught one of people by surprise. what is your reaction to that? >> his name is not one we've heard before. what's interesting is also the timing that it continued after january 6th. alsoi think sometimes we think t all ended on january six and that everyone was discussed about what we saw on january six, but not everybody, even the oath keepers and proud boys continue their efforts in conspiracy when it went on up until january 20th when they thought they might be able to succeed in overturning the outcome of the election. and i think that, to this day, we heard about people suggesting that donald trump will be restored to power somehow. i think he's a very interesting character, i think ginni thomas remains on the radar screen as somebody who was pressuring