my seniors is so many of them were used to someone sending them their vote by mail application, and because of the new laws that will criminalize elected officials for sending out those ballot by mail applications, not that there's any fraud with the application itself, a lot of seniors were kind of sitting around waiting on those applications and the applications never arrived. >> that is so frustrating to hear, because one of the things that we hear from proponents of these laws is that this is to prevent fraud, or some sort of nefarious voting in elections but when you have legitimate voters who are following the directions and yet still they're not able to participate, i mean what does that say to you about the goal of the people who implemented these rules and made them confusing in the first place? i mean and what's your message to the texans who are dealing with this difficulty? >> it's the definition of suppression. that's what you just stated. you defined what voter