certified if the president does not win reelection. >> if democracy -- if you only accept results if you win and you deny the results when you lose, i mean, what's amazing to me, i think elise stefanik is so representative of what the modern gop has become. she entered congress as a center right, rational actor, she was going to be an adult in the room and help governance and lead to the new generation of the republican leadership. she has been completely revealed. i think that's what donald trump's greatest asset has been in america. he has revealed people for who they are. elise stefanik has moved from the rational center right republican to someone who accepted conspiracy theories. in that same interview, as you know, she described the insurrectionists of the capitol as hostages. some people who were arrested in the aftermath of that, she