it was very clear civilians were using it. it was very clear that was the evacuation path, and there were not people fighting back. they were elderly, they were children. i watched this young girl on a pink puffy coat walk with her family right before that mortar landed next to us. i mean, it was clearly for civilians. >> i know that you do this for your job. but this has got to be incredibly difficult for you, especially seeing the images in person of that family being killed. >> yeah. i mean, this isn't my job. i mean, this is my life, right? i have done this for 20 years. i have covered war for 20 years. you know, we're in a situation where there are a lot of lives being thrown around, a lot of misinformation. i think that we have heard repeatedly that president putin is not targeting civilians.