thousands of people arrested, and that means if thousands are being arrested, that means that tens of thousands of people have the same views. they just don't want to get arrested. this is a war that's extremely unpopular. i think putin has grossly underestimated how willing his people would stand behind him. andrea, including the soldiers in ukraine. i just watched a dozen videos of various soldiers that have been captive. they're there, they have no idea why they're there. they have no idea what this war is about. they didn't listen to the president's hour-long rambling speech that was supposed to rally the troops. that is another reason why this war is going bad for him. the people of russia are not supporting this war. >> and there are close familiar relationships often between the russian population and the ukrainian population that outsiders might not well understand. >> absolutely. and there are many of ethnic russians, the city of kharkiv, i have been to the city of